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Joe Rogan Experience _2207 - Shawn Ryan(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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  Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going? Nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 2: I really enjoy your show. It's very different. When I
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  Speaker 2: first started watching it, I was like, oh, this guy's
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  Speaker 2: fucking interviewing all kinds of crazy people. I like you
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  Speaker 2: like a Navy SEAL Art Bell. It's kind of cool, man.
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  Speaker 2: You go out there with people. Like that one dude
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  Speaker 2: that was saying there's direct energy weapons in Antarctica. You
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  Speaker 2: let that guy go out. He's going out on a
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  Speaker 2: long-ass pier. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Eric Hecker.
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  Speaker 2: All those stories are so crazy. I was just finishing.
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  Speaker 2: Is it John Alexander?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Is that the gentleman that worked with UAPs and unidentified
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  Speaker 2: phenomenon and mysteries?
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  Speaker 1: He's done it all. Fascinating. He's done it all.
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  Speaker 2: Fascinating. All the way back to Vietnam, right? Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That guy, what a crazy story, man. Imagine being involved
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  Speaker 2: in that kind of shit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: How much do you believe it, though?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When I hear the UFO stuff, there's a part of
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  Speaker 2: my brain that's like, don't get suckered into this. This
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  Speaker 2: shit's nonsense. There's something that... It just feels like... Like,
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  Speaker 2: if they told me a super volcano was going to erupt,
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  Speaker 2: I would believe it. Because super volcanoes are definitely real.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a historical precedent. They've ruined civilizations. They tell
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  Speaker 2: me that there's UFOs. And part of me is just like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't fucking believe you. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know. You know, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: You know what bothers me about the whole camp is nobody...
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  Speaker 1: None of these camps, like, talk to each other.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's... My camp knows everything.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that always the case, though? Yes. That's the case
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  Speaker 2: in the military often, right?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I was going to compare it to special ops.
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  Speaker 1: But that guy doesn't know shit. I know every... You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of how.
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  Speaker 2: When I was really young, I was, like, 24, I
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  Speaker 2: was dating this girl that was... She did something in government,
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  Speaker 2: and she was explaining to me... So this is... pre-internet-ish.
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  Speaker 2: People didn't have the internet then. It was like early 90s, right?
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  Speaker 2: And she said that one of her jobs was to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that information that the Navy had received would
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  Speaker 2: be available to the Army. So you have to make
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  Speaker 2: sure people aren't running redundant tests. Like, we already did this.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get you this information. So there was some sort
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  Speaker 2: of a database in these computer terminals where she could
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  Speaker 2: share information. And she had some sort of top clearance.
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  Speaker 2: And one day, like just fucking around, she wrote little
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  Speaker 2: green men in the search function. And her computer got
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  Speaker 2: shut down and then people visited her. And they asked her, like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like, why did you look this up? Like,
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  Speaker 2: what is this all about? And I think she wound
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  Speaker 2: up either getting fired or transferred to some other position
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  Speaker 2: or or lost whatever clearance that she had.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. I've not heard that one.
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  Speaker 2: When I was young, I was like, wow, aliens are real.
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  Speaker 2: But as an older man, now looking back on it,
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  Speaker 2: I go, well, maybe what she was doing was inappropriate
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  Speaker 2: for her job. Maybe what she was doing was demonstrating
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  Speaker 2: that she couldn't be trusted because she's doing something that's
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  Speaker 2: not– there was no request to look up little green men.
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  Speaker 2: She did it on her own.
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  Speaker 1: Is this 100% factual? Hard to tell.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's just because it was a girl I dated.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really know. Oh, you dated her? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: dated her. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, like I said, early 90s,
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  Speaker 2: I was living in New York. I had actually dated
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  Speaker 2: her in Boston, then we met up again in New
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  Speaker 2: York a couple years later. So she was telling me
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  Speaker 2: about her job, and then she was telling me, like,
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  Speaker 2: check this out.
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't be telling you this, but here.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, I was all in on UFOs. I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: UFOs are real. But as an older man, I look
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  Speaker 2: back and go, well, If you have some kid, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she was basically my age, she's probably 24 as well,
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  Speaker 2: and you're having this kid work in these terminals that
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  Speaker 2: has access to top secret information and they have clearance,
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  Speaker 2: I would say, hey, maybe you shouldn't be just looking
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  Speaker 2: up shit randomly. You know, like, we can't have this kid,
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  Speaker 2: we can't trust this kid.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't seem like everything's so compartmentalized in government,
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  Speaker 1: and especially at that kind of classified level. whatever security
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  Speaker 1: clearance level. I mean, there's whatever. I didn't get that
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  Speaker 1: high up, but I've not seen like a database where
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  Speaker 1: you can just look anything up like, Oh shit. Who killed, uh,
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  Speaker 1: who killed up JFK?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look that up real quick.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's, it's, it's, well, you know what Trump
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  Speaker 2: said about that one, right?
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  Speaker 1: What did he say?
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  Speaker 2: Trump said that if they showed you what they showed me,
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  Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to release it either. Oh yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I did hear that.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy. What a crazy thing to say. Yeah. That can
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  Speaker 2: only mean one thing in my eyes. We did it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that makes any sense is the United
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  Speaker 2: States did it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, more and more just keeps unraveling.
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  Speaker 2: Tucker just comes out and says it openly. He just
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  Speaker 2: says it openly. CIA killed Kennedy. He has a crazy laugh.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't know who could actually
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  Speaker 2: say it other than the people that have read those
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  Speaker 2: papers and, you know, and Who knows what they would,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the president is basically a part-time employee. Not
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  Speaker 2: a part-time employee, but a short-term employee. You know, if
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  Speaker 2: you've got a long-running business and for some technicality, every
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  Speaker 2: now and then you have to bring in some fucking
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  Speaker 2: CEO and he does a four-year term and then hopefully
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  Speaker 2: he can finagle it so he gets another four-year term
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  Speaker 2: if he's playing by the rules. And you just bring
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  Speaker 2: him in.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you tell that guy who killed Kennedy? Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They hid shit from him all the time, which is
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  Speaker 2: totally illegal.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about RFKs possibly getting in to
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  Speaker 1: investigate all that stuff?
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  Speaker 2: I think it would be one of the best things
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  Speaker 2: for the health of the people in the United States.
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  Speaker 2: If you really care about health, I think there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of us, and it was me at one point
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  Speaker 2: in time, and I've gotten more educated about it. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of us are very ignorant about what we're doing
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  Speaker 2: to our bodies with food and with medications. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we're being told the truth. And I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a reason why other countries, multiple other countries have
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  Speaker 2: banned food elements, food like ingredients that we use all
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  Speaker 2: the time. These red dyes, all these different things. And
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  Speaker 2: this was all, there was just a recent thing that
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  Speaker 2: they did. Who was involved in that? Brigham testified in that.
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  Speaker 2: an enormous percentage of people show traces of glyphosate in
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  Speaker 2: their blood. We're getting it through all kinds of vegetables.
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  Speaker 2: It's ubiquitously sprayed on monocrop agriculture crops. We're all just
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 1: So you basically scan anything, like food related.
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  Speaker 2: Soap, deodorant.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. There it is. Y-U-K-A shout out to.
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  Speaker 1: Yuka there it is see like honey nut so it'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you the additives.
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  Speaker 2: In there contains additives to avoid and.
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  Speaker 1: It'll tell you all the it'll tell you all the
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  Speaker 1: chemicals and what's what the chemicals.
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  Speaker 2: Do to you ah that's genius yeah it's pretty what
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  Speaker 2: a great ad no ads We just did an ad
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  Speaker 2: for them. Good for them, though, but that's what people need.
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  Speaker 2: I think if RFK gets into office, he will expose
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  Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff, just like he did when
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  Speaker 2: he was an environmental attorney. People think of him as
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  Speaker 2: just the vaccine kook. Listen, you've got to look at
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  Speaker 2: that guy's– the history of that guy's work has all
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  Speaker 2: been about protecting people from corporations that are poisoning them.
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  Speaker 2: That's literally what that guy did his whole career. And
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  Speaker 2: if he can do that with health, particularly with things
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  Speaker 2: that we can avoid. Look, one of the things they
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  Speaker 2: demonstrated is that Lucky Charms, as sold in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: they don't sell the same one in Canada. In Canada,
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  Speaker 2: the dyes that we use to make it all pretty
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  Speaker 2: and exciting for kids. They don't allow that because it's
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  Speaker 2: fucking toxic. So we allow it, which means someone's corrupt.
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  Speaker 2: Someone's corrupt.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the whole system, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Probably the whole system is heavily influenced. At the very least,
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  Speaker 2: forget about bribery. Let's not even say bribery. Heavily influenced
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  Speaker 2: by relationships that these people have with CEOs in these
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  Speaker 2: corporations and the boards of executives. And this weird little
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  Speaker 2: revolving door between the FDA and the CDC and all
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  Speaker 2: these different organizations. And then they leave and then they
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  Speaker 2: get this amazing job working for some huge corporation that
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  Speaker 2: they were helping regulate just a few years ago. It's
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  Speaker 2: the most transparent thing. It should be. If insider trading
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  Speaker 2: is illegal, how's that legal?
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  Speaker 1: Good point. I mean, does FDA approval even mean anything
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  Speaker 1: to you?
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  Speaker 2: Not to me. It doesn't to me, but it took
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  Speaker 2: a long time before I got to that. It took
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  Speaker 2: a long time before I really understood, like, why do
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  Speaker 2: we think that saturated fat is bad? Oh, it was
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  Speaker 2: a lie by the sugar companies. Okay, why do people
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  Speaker 2: tell you that vitamin supplementation doesn't really help and you
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  Speaker 2: just need a balanced diet? Oh, because doctors don't know
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  Speaker 2: jack shit about nutrition and that you're going to a
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  Speaker 2: guy who literally knows less than you because he went
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  Speaker 2: to medical school for how to fix knees or whatever
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  Speaker 2: the fuck he specialized in. And you're taking this guy's
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  Speaker 2: advice and he doesn't know anything about nutrition. He's not
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  Speaker 2: read any peer-reviewed data. That guy is just trying to
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  Speaker 2: keep up. He's got fucking bills piling in and he's
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: bringing people and shuffling them through the office. And he's
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: worried about his, you have the insurance in case you,
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: you fuck up malpractice insurance and you have to pay
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: your medical school bills. And those guys are barely getting,
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  Speaker 2: they're floating. They're trying to just run people through their
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  Speaker 2: office as fast as they can.
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  Speaker 1: Does it, does it bother you if there's some type of,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, some type of a new, does it
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  Speaker 1: bother you if it's not FDA approved at all?
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  Speaker 2: If it's new?
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  Speaker 1: Like nobody's looked into it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't take anything no one's looked into, especially
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  Speaker 2: a drug. It's just like, give it some time, kids.
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  Speaker 2: Give it some time. I mean, how many times do
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  Speaker 2: they have to pull drugs before people? Like what is
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  Speaker 2: the percentage of drugs that the FDA approves and then pulls?
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  Speaker 2: I believe it's 25%.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's 25%. See if that's true. So this
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  Speaker 2: is the ones that they approve, and then eventually they find, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this stuff is terrible for you, and then they pull it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's 25%, which, you know, what does it say? One-third. Oh, shit. One-third.
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  Speaker 1: A third.
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  Speaker 2: I was off. According to the 2017 study, which is
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  Speaker 2: probably worse now, about one-third of drugs approved by the
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  Speaker 2: FDA within a 10-year period receive alerts, warnings, or recalls
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  Speaker 2: in the years following their approval. That's fucking bananas. Give
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  Speaker 2: it some time, kids. Yeah. Also, have you seen the
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  Speaker 2: Steven Crowder undercover thing he did with that COVID czar
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  Speaker 2: in New York?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen that? Jamie, go to his page and
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  Speaker 2: find the most recent one. Because the most recent one
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  Speaker 2: is fascinating. Because the most recent one, this guy is
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  Speaker 2: openly talking about how monkeypox is not really a threat.
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  Speaker 2: But they're trying to present it as a threat so
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  Speaker 2: they can sell this medication. Interesting. And they're talking about
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  Speaker 2: pushing this. This guy's openly talking about monkeypox is really
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  Speaker 2: just gay guys get it from unprotected. I'll let him.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the video.
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  Speaker 5: That's the guy though, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is it on his Instagram? Go to it. I'll
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  Speaker 2: show you which one it is. It's just not playing
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  Speaker 2: a video.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, maybe here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 5: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. That's not it. That's not it.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's the one where he's talking about how he
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: shut the city down. There's a recent one. No. I know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's somewhere else. Let me scroll down a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: See if you can find the one. See that one
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  Speaker 2: right there that's kind of yellow. That's yellow there. But
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  Speaker 2: which one? There's got to be one where he's talking
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  Speaker 2: about monkey pox. Because that was the one I was
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  Speaker 2: watching today. That's not, because that's all about shutting the
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  Speaker 2: schools down. God damn it, we've got to find it. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: just find it and get to us. Because I know
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  Speaker 2: I might have watched it on X. I probably thought,
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying X now. Yeah, good for you. I feel
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  Speaker 2: politically correct. Like when I call a transgender person a girl, she.
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  Speaker 2: You like that? How I did that? I said she.
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  Speaker 5: He's talking to him directly.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, that's not it. That's that's Crowder confronting him
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  Speaker 2: when he's that guy's fired now the guys fuck But
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  Speaker 2: the monkeypox one god damn, and I know I saved
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  Speaker 2: it if you want I can find it I saved
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  Speaker 2: it on my phone because I was like this is
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  Speaker 2: just so bonkers that these people are having conversations in
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  Speaker 2: public and openly admitting that they're Trying to push people
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  Speaker 2: into taking drugs. It doesn't even work Really.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting This is going to be a problem.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to find it. Just see if you
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  Speaker 2: can find it. It's got to be out there because
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  Speaker 2: I watched it this morning. Did you go to Monkey Box?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing?
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  Speaker 5: It's going to be in one of these links. It's
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  Speaker 5: going to take a second.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wait. Hold on. Back up. Back up. That was
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  Speaker 2: right there. Right above that. Dr. J.
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  Speaker 1: Varna. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. This is it.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: But it's not the same thing as the last one.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: There's no link to the video.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, so is it because the New York Post doesn't
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: show it? That's okay. We can just read what it
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: says because it's kind of interesting. We don't have to
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: hear him say it. But Stephen Crowder has kind of
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: decided to do this James O'Keefe type deal. And I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: don't know how they do that. It's pretty wizardry.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: You know, generally, I think you get like a gay
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: guy who likes to talk and some handsome dude who
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: can sit down with this guy and get him a
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: little tipsy. That seems to be happening. Gay guys like
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: to spill the beans. He previously served as senior health
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: advisor to then-Mayor Bill de Blasio, was tasked with running
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Big Apple's pandemic response. Okay, so he was talking about
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the approval process while discussing SIGA Technologies' Technovirabant or TPOX drug.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: So this is the drug for monkeypox. So that's why
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: spinning it in the media is helpful. We want the
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: FDA to approve our drug specifically for monkeypox, and right
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: now it's only considered experimental, and they won't approve it,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: he said. And the US TPOX... is not approved by
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the FDA for treatment of MPOX, but could be used
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to treat patients as part of a clinical trial known
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: as the Study of Technoviramat for Human MPOX Virus, according
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: to Cigna Technologies. The company's website added that the STOMP
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: trial is being conducted to evaluate the efficacy of TPOX
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: for the treatment of MPOX. Varna then griped at the
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: video filmed on August 14th that his then employer is
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: stuck with our drug, but the people aren't going to
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: be as confident in it because the data doesn't look
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: as strong as it should. And so then later he
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: starts talking about the stock prices. So he says, sometimes
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you do a study and there's fucking nothing works at all,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: or people get really sick from it, he said in
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the covert recording. The problem is, if you do another study,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: it'll take a year or two to do it because
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: you have to get the ethics approval, you gotta get
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the money, you gotta get the patients to come in.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: In the videos, Varma then gloated about how he knows
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the reporters well and referenced a September interview with New
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: York Times on MPOX, which touted the TPOX as a
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: drug used to treat MPOX infection. He also described the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: World Health Organization's emergency authorization process before explaining how he
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: wants the media to report on TPOX. So he was talking,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: one of the things in the video, he was talking
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: about stock prices. So they're talking about making it look
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: like these drugs do better than they do, getting people
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to prescribe them. Okay, hold on. Okay. So basically what
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: we're trying to get the media to say is, oh,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the drug didn't work because it was designed the wrong way,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: so they're going to do another study, and it'll probably work.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: And in the meantime, people just prescribe it as an
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: emergency drug. That's what we want the story to be,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: which is wild to say out loud. And he said
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the risk of MPOC spreading in the U.S. is very low,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: and it's almost certainly going to stay among gay men. Yeah,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: so it's all just— it' s supposedly— I don't think in America...
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I think four people have died from it. Which is...
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: You got to go hard.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: That's it, huh?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: You got to go hard and die from that.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: You quit right before they talked about the 10-person sex parties.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That was another thing. That was when he
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: got busted for having parties during the COVID lockdowns while
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: he was encouraging the lockdowns. Wow. You didn't hear that part? No. Oh,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: so Crowder got him on camera saying that he was
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: doing Molly and partying. And saying, I hope somebody doesn't
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: see me doing this because I could get in real
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: trouble because, you know, obviously I reinforced the lockdowns.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, surprising, but not, you know.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Boy, everybody's eyes have been opened up over the last
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: few years. At least people that are trying to pay
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: attention to how nutty the people are who actually run
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the show. Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a lot of people are. I mean, it's crazy.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: It's like everything you knew is just flipped upside down.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: It's like a bunch of actors are running it. That's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: what it's like because that's what they're really like. What
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: politicians are like are like actors are not quite good
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: looking enough to get into movies and television shows. They
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: can't host entertainment tonight. But they can read off a teleprompter,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you know, and they can do a good– like, look,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris had one good read off a teleprompter and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: she shot up in the polls. That's the power of
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: just a performance when you want to believe something. You
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: want to believe. That's true.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't believe anything anymore.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: You know? I just can't. I was watching this. These
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: guys were breaking down. You know, they can track cell phones.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: They can figure out, like, whose cell phone was there.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: They can get metadata. And they were talking about these
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris rallies, about how organized they are. These people
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: are coming in on buses, and many of them have
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: been to multiple rallies. And that when this one, this
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: one local one, like 80% of the people came from
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: somewhere else. And they were all bussed in.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: How do they know that? How do they know that?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Well... I'll send this to Jamie because this one I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: actually have. But I think they know it because you
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: can track data on a phone now.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're doing the geofencing stuff?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly how they do it, but they're
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: doing something in which they can tell when your phone
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: has been in an area. Okay, I found this guy's.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I found his other video. Yeah, here, I'll show it
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: to you, Jamie. Because it's even grosser hearing it come
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: out of this guy's mouth.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: This is an hour and a half video on his
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: YouTube channel that I think it's taken from.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is the clip. I'm sending you the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: clip from Instagram for whatever. I don't know if Instagram
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: is hiding it. I don't know what's happening.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: But they wouldn't do that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: It's on his Louder with Crowder page.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: That's why. Oh, is that what it is?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Okay. God, I hate looking up things on my phone
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a fucking show. But sometimes you
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: have to. So these guys, what they were essentially what
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: they were showing. is that it's very organized and people
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: are being bussed in. And, you know, is that okay?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Is that ethical? I mean, maybe just making it more
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: convenient for them to go to the Kamala Harris rally.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. But if you're organizing crowds, like
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: say if you do a game show, like if you
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: host a game show, you know, Wheel of Fortune. Hello,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Those people are all paid. Most of them,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: or sometimes you let fans do it for a very
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: popular show, but I have personally been on a lot
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: of shows where the audience is paid. Interesting. It's basically
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: like if you're filming a sitcom, and nobody knows what
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the sitcom is, there's a company that you can hire,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and you pay the audience to come in. And the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: people cheer. They have an applause sign. Everybody cheers. They
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: laugh when you tell them to laugh. There's a guy
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: in the audience that's doing this to them that the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: people at home don't see. So it's just, it's all theater, right?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So they could do that same strategy for a political
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: rally easily. If you're talking about all the money that
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you're going to be in control of when you are
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the president of the United States, which is a spectacular position,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: not just that, but then all the money you're going
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to make in appearances and forever, right? You're going to
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: do Goldman Sachs talks and make a half a million
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: dollars for no apparent reason. There's so much money involved.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: You don't think you would pay audiences to come and cheer?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: That's cheap. Yeah. That's cheap.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think that's immoral?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I think we have very loose rules on what
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of outrage because people were saying
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: that ABC somehow or another had gotten the subject matter
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: to Kamala and that they had agreed to Kamala. That
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: they were not going to ask her about her DA
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: record when she was in California. And that they were
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: not going to talk about some other person she was
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: involved with that might be in trouble. And they weren't
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: going to fact check her. And then they said they
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: were only going to fact check Donald Trump.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Which is what led to her saying quite a few
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: things that weren't true. And no one said anything about it,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: particularly about troops being deployed overseas.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Did you see that video where the troops are like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: what the fuck are you talking about?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I got a really good friend of mine that's deployed
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: overseas right now.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Not according to Kamala Harris.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And, yeah, he's sniping bad guys over in Africa.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how mad would he be if he heard that?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're pissed.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not in a war zone.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: They're pissed.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: They should be pissed. So this is... from an Instagram account.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know what podcast this clip came from, but
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: let's just play it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Rally?
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: 5,003 mobile devices at Kamala Harris's rally in Charlotte, North
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Carolina on Thursday afternoon. It appears over 3,600 came from Georgia,
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: mainly Atlanta, Georgia, and approximately 720 from Savannah, Georgia. So
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: that's a North Carolina rally with almost 80% of the
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: attendees being from Georgia.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: After you do the math, that's only 600 or so
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: local people from North Carolina that attended. That's all who
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: shows up and you're planning to what? Get 80 something
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: million votes again? Something ain't right. And then all these
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: people come from buses. And it's kind of weird because
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: at the Trump events, you don't really have like organized
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: buses like that. People just kind of show up and
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: park on their own. But at the Kamala rally, there's
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: just these lines of buses at every event, which is weird.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: And a lot of the people are also the same
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: people that attend multiple rallies.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Can you read those tweets?
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Any of the same ones from previous events, because this
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: guy's tracking the cell phones, I guess, and he says,
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: 90% have been to three-plus rallies. 54% were even at
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Arizona and Nevada rallies.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Now, it could be that she is so popular that
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: it's like Swifties. They just follow her around. Or it
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: could be like, you know, the Grateful Dead was in
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the 1970s.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what's going on. Maybe she's just so amazing
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden. Maybe she just... Stella got her groove,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you know? Something happened, and she just kicked into gear,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: and now she's her best self. Yeah. Her best self.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: She's going to be the president. Yay, let's go to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: these rallies.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that's what's going on.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Could be that. It could... It could be that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's really immoral.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: It's not even immoral. It's just a.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: It's just a rally.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants their rally to be full. I mean, you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: it's just... I don't– it's a facade, man.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: It's just a facade.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: If you can do it for a game show, you
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: can do it for a political event. I don't think
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it's immoral. I think if they did give her the
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: questions and they really– and this is– someone signed an affidavit.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: See what's going on with that. See what's the latest
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: with that, Jamie. So someone signed an affidavit that was
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: an ABC employee that claims these things. And it was
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: very clear there was bias. It was very clear that
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: they were fact-checking him and not fact-checking her. But it was,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately, he doesn't do himself any favors because
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: he kind of goes off the rails sometimes. They're eating dogs.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: They're eating cats. Which, by the way, they may very
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: well be doing that. That's a thing they do in
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Haiti sometimes. Sometimes they sacrifice animals and, you know, they
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: have local rituals, religious rituals that they do.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, this has been going on for a long time, though.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes a Kung Pao chicken is a chicken.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, that's a real thing. That's a real thing.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And to try to pretend that it's racist to say that. No, no.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Humans sometimes will do things.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: According to this, it says that this started with a
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: claim that there was an affidavit. But I don't know
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: that it's ever been actually presented to anyone.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Didn't it get discussed on Twitter and people were
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: posting about the veracity of it? I think Elon even
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: put it on his post. No. Colin Rugg, I know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: had it on his. Yeah. I think it's probably going
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: to be hard to tell unless charges are filed. It
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: said it made it to Congress. Bill Ackman. That's right.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Bill Ackman was the guy who tweeted it. Didn't know
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: if the claim was accurate, but shared it anyway, which
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: is what's fun. It's fun to do on the internet.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Vance addressed the supposed whistleblower's allegations with reporters saying it
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: should be a national scandal if true. Trump again mentioned
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the whistleblower September 13th at a rally in Las Vegas,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: claiming that Harris had received the debate questions in advance. Fortunately,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: we had a leaker or a whistleblower. I don't care which.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I love that person. The way he talks is such
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: a Trump statement. Representative Dan Mouser in a Pennsylvania Senate
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Fox News interview that he would try to bring in
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: ABC News and the whistleblower before Congress to testify about
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the affidavit.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: They said that the person who did it was killed
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: in a car crash, and that seems to be false.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was amplified by Marjorie Taylor Greene, who also
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't do herself any favors. I think they do stuff
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: like that. This is my take on that. When I
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: saw all these people tweeting that the guy died in
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: a car crash, I was like, that might be a trap.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: That one might be a trap. I think they do
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: stuff like that where they'll throw out a fake story
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: and get people to share it without looking into it
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: at all. And it turns out to be complete horseshit.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: And it makes the whole thing look like horseshit now.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Now it looks like it makes the affidavit. It's at
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: least connected to horseshit. Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good tactic.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Smart tactic.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: They've got a lot of good tactics.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: They're very organized. Which is really interesting. And that's one
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: of the things about Trump is that he's so dominant
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and he's so swing from the hip that no one
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: can kind of corral him, you know? And it seems
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: like she's really open to being coached. Like some of
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: these speeches are very different than any speeches she's ever
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: given before. And you see the difference between that and
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: then like, did you see the Oprah interview? No. She's
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: off the rails. Yeah. Off the rails.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I heard about it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Into fucking wine mom country again.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Tim Dillon is the best. Tim Dillon's like, she's saying
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: gypsy curses. What is she saying? Oh, man. It's like
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: when you get her off the rails and she is,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: it's kind of fucked up, right? Because that's not the job.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: The job is not. being able to sound cool in
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: an interview with Oprah. That's not the job. But that's
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the most important part about getting the job.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I just want to hear, like, you know, how they're
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: going to accomplish all this stuff.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Well, they're going to do it once they get in,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: even though they're already in.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: That seems to be the typical response, right?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Well, one thing that you can see, like, really clearly
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: is there is a ferocious effort to stop Donald Trump
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: from becoming president again that I've never seen before. I've
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: seen tight races. I've seen people very divided. I've seen
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it for years. There's always been a division between the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats in this country, but not like this.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Not like this, where the guy almost gets killed twice,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and they don't even talk about it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: It's scary, man.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: It's nuts.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It's scary.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Almost gets killed twice, and the second one, they just
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: brushed it off. Like, I don't even think the guy
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: got a shot off. Hmm. Yeah. Like, the guy was
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: set up at a golf course for 12 hours with
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: a bulletproof vest on an AK-47 and was specifically there
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to kill Trump. You don't think that's crazy?
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's crazy they didn't cover it. I mean,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: it barely got covered.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Barely.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Barely in and out. And then the brother of the
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: guy or the guy's son gets arrested for child pornography.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Which is, do you know, have you looked into the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: BlackRock commercial stuff at all?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Is that real? The one shooter was in the BlackRock commercial.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: That was the kid that tried to kill Trump.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: They said that this guy was in a BlackRock commercial,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: but I heard that that's not true.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: It's bullshit.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But that could be another one that they just threw
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, right. You throw one out there like that,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: and then people retweet it, and those people look stupid
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: because you retweeted something dumb, and then it just weakens
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the public's faith in what you have to say about
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: things and also makes the story look stupid. Like, that
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: story about that whistleblower will forever be connected to people
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: retweeting the fact that he died in a car accident
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: even though he didn't die in a car accident.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: So it's always going to be shrouded in bullshit. Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: It's kind of genius. It is, man.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: It's... I mean, it's a great way to discredit.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great way to get somebody elected. Yeah,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: good point. Good point. It's just.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: When you're seeing the manipulation just in full bloom, just
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: marching down the street in front of everybody and no
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: one's freaking out about it, that's what's really weird.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: What do you think... I mean, have you thought about
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: who's behind all these assassination attempts? Do you think they're
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: lone wolves or.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Well... Was it Matt Gaetz that was saying that he's
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: been informed that there's five different kill teams looking for
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Trump in the country right now?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Somebody did just say that.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Two of them are domestic? I think Trump said that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Trump said it?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: There's five guys.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: They think they're going to get me. They're not going
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: to get me. So what's the quote? Big threats on
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: my life by Iran. The U.S. military is watching and waiting.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Moves already been made by Iran that didn't work out,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: but they will try again. Not a good situation for anyone.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I am surrounded by more men, guns, and weapons than
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I have ever seen before. Thank you to Congress for
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: unanimously approving far more money to Secret Service. Zero, no votes.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: What?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: What?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Zero, no votes, strictly bipartisan. Okay. Oh, I understand. Zero,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: no votes. Like, no one voted against it. Strictly bipartisan.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Nice to see Republicans and Democrats get together on something.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: An attack on a former president is a death wish
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: for the attacker. It wasn't just him that was saying that, though.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was Matt Gaetz. I know I
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: have that saved, too, if you want to. So if
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: there really are five different kill teams in the country
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: looking for Trump right now, that's just insane.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: But it should be hard to find him.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, he has rallies, giant rallies. In New York,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: there was 60,000 people. That's insane. See, that's the difference
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: between the Kamala Harris rallies. If that guy's telling the truth,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: if that guy's telling the truth, and they really are
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: just sort of manipulating this and putting on theater, that's
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: a big difference between what's happening with Trump. He organically
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: got 60,000 people to come see him and freak out
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: in New York. The media is a monster. It really is.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It's such an obvious monster. Such a deceptive, sneaky, propagandist monster.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: How long do you think the media has left?
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: They'll be around.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: You think so?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: It all depends on who gets into office, really. It
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: depends on... So the real fear was when they started
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: getting their claws into Twitter. The real fear was when
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the government started suppressing accurate information and Twitter let them
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: do it. That was scary close. So Elon buys Twitter,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: releases the Twitter files. Michael Schellenberger, Matt Taibbi, and all
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: those journalists, they all uncover all these different aspects that's
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: super disturbing and totally illegal. And they release everything. And
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: then Twitter becomes kind of crazy. Like Twitter is wild now.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Like there's, it's just, it's totally wild, wild West unregulated.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: And then the, what do you got Jamie? This is it. Yeah. Okay.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: One of the five known teams hunting president Trump for Butler,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Pennsylvania attempt was Ukrainian. So this is Matt Gates talking
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: about this, but I think that if that hadn't happened,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: So if all of social media remained like staunch leftist,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: left wing, just giving completely into whatever propaganda the government
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: wants to give them regarding vaccines or Ukraine or anything
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: else with no critical arguments about it that are accepted.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Just anybody who doesn't follow the narrative, especially people like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: you know, they they censored people from Stanford and MIT.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: They were trying to tell them to pull those guys,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: like Jay Bhattacharya, all these doctors about COVID. Oh, yeah,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: I did.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Censoring legitimate experts in the field who aren't kooks, guys
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: like Peter McCullough, who's the most published doctor in his
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: field of study in human history. And they're like, no, no,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: you're a kook. You're a kook. And we know now
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: that that was not true, and he was correct. Now
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: we all know, right? All these years later, most people
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: kind of know what the fuck happened, even the people
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: reluctant to admit they got duped. If Elon does not
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: come along and buy Twitter, I don't know where we
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: are right now. I really don't. Because if they had
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the clamps on Twitter, and they did the same thing
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: with Twitter that they're doing right now with other social
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: media apps, It would be fucking awful out there.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I know, man. Elon's been a blessing.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: He really has.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: It's a big one. I mean, I don't think they're
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: going to be around that much longer. I feel like
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the media will die with the baby boomer generation.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I think if Elon didn't buy Twitter, they would have
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: been fine. I really do. Probably. The only thing that
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: fucks them up is YouTube, but they've got a clamp
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, too. You know, YouTube is, they're very restrictive
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: in what you can talk about, especially during the pandemic.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: They would ban you from YouTube for talking about things
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: that we know for a fact are true now.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: We dealt with a lot of that.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: We dealt with a lot of it, right?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I'll bet you did too.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Anybody on YouTube, I mean, you have to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: like parse your words. Jimmy Dore, even when he's criticizing
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: the vaccine, he said, but you should take the vaccine
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: because it's safe and effective. He always has to say
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: it to cover his ass. It was a joke.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Was it nice for you to come off YouTube? Did
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you enjoy that when it first happened? My strategy was.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Was it a huge pain in the ass gone? No.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to it. But my strategy was
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to become 10% less famous. So when I went over
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: to Spotify, Spotify was going to give me all this money.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, great. Just fucking be a
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: little less famous too. That'd be good. Like kind of
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: like go the Howard Stern route. Kind of fade off
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: into the sunset.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Did it work? No, it didn't work. I was going
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: to get caught up in this massive controversy. But it also,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: even before that, this podcast was growing on Spotify a
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: little too quick. So there's no extra pressure being on YouTube.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: But there is a pressure if you're relying on YouTube.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I guess I meant with the– Because they'll demonetize you.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: That's what I meant. I meant with like the censorship stuff.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I was wondering, you know.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Want to hear something interesting? Yeah. We got demonetized all
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the time. A lot of episodes got demonetized until we
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: announced that we're going to go exclusive to Spotify. And
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: then from that moment out, there was like a few
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: months of a window.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: No kidding.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: They never demonetized us. They just took all the money. Like,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: don't go, Joe. No, they didn't. No, no, no. It
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't that. They wanted the money now. Like, why would
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: they demonetize me? Because they don't get a cut either.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: So what they're trying to do, essentially, is get you
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to fall in line by getting you to self-censor because
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: it benefits you financially. It's a creepy form of censorship
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: because you do it to yourself and it's kind of
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: okay because you can't really... prove that they got you
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: to not talk about things you wanted to talk about
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: and they can't really prove that you followed this public
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: narrative just because you want to keep your job I
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: mean I you.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Know what really bothers me is cause we both put
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: a lot into this you know and what bothers me
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: it's like just tell me what you want me to
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: take out what is it they won't fucking tell you
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I don't want.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: To talk to them This is how my feeling on
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the thing is. I don't think they should be talking
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: to people about what to put in. I think if
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you're not doing anything illegal, if you're not saying anything
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: illegal or doing anything illegal, don't take it off.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Some of it I'm totally with you. Some of it
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I get, you know, like, you know, pedophilia.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: 100%. Illegal stuff.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Even language, I mean. There's three-year-olds I'll watch. I got
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a three-year-old kid.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: He's watching YouTube. They have YouTube kids. YouTube kids is great.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: So I get it when they mark my shit with
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: 18 plus, but they won't tell me. I can't correct
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the fucking problem if you don't tell me what it is.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: And I mean, they just don't want to abide. They
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: don't want to box themselves in and not be able to...
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Censor somebody.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that. And there's no benefit for them to
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: tell you what you said that was wrong. There's no benefit.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: The good thing is to get you to self-censor. That's
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the best. To put the threat over you. That's why
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: they give you strikes. One strike, two strikes. Sean, you
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: got three strikes. You know, it's kind of silly. It's weird.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: It's like, is this the penal system or is this
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: a goddamn social media platform? It should be. If advertisers
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: don't want to advertise on that particular content, okay, that
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: seems easy to manage, guys. And guess what? There'd be
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of advertisers that would be willing to advertise
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: on that content. You're just not being creative enough with
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: your advertisement. If you're just treating it as a business,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: or are you treating it as not just a social
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: media video website, but a way to push and a
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: way to amplify a very specific message?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you can control what comes out of
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: people's mouths and you can control what they think.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you're making a lot of money on
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: YouTube and you're doing great, like, wow, I've got a
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: fucking real good life now. And then all of a
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: sudden YouTube comes along and says, oh, you were talking
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: about the vaccines, Sean. Sean, we can't have COVID vaccine
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: misinformation on our platform. This is going to cost lives.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: And some platforms make you do like a re-education thing
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: where you have to like talk to them. And have
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: conversations with them about what you did that may have
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: been offensive or what you did that may have violated
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the terms and conditions that they have for their community.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we had to do that. I think
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: we did that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Fucking creepy. That shit's fucking creepy because you're dealing with
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: some fucking woke kid in Silicon Valley who up talks.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: And this person, okay, what you're doing, Sean, right now
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: with your show, I know that you don't think it's...
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: harmful but it really is it really is it's truly
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: harmful yeah it's truly harmful you exposing government corruption and.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I can tell i can it's it's yeah it's real
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: harmful all right but.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: It's fucking weird man it's weird but i'd love the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: fact that at least it exists and even though it's
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: not perfect because i don't think youtube can be perfect
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: because they're managing at scale in order for them to
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: get all the pornography and the murder cartels upload murder
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: videos to youtube like They're constantly trying to put out fires.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine the amount of data that YouTube has
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: to deal with on a daily basis? It kind of
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: behooves them to just give them strikes, threaten them, let's
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: just slow everything down. Too much of this is getting
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: us in trouble. We just want to make a lot
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: of money. I get it. I get it. There's only
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: one YouTube. It's kind of genius. And it's a perfect setup.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: The algorithm where it's constantly recommending stuff that you're interested in.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: It's fucking great. Great time waster. But it's also a
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: tool for shaping narratives. And if only one narrative is
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: pushed out there and other narratives will literally get you demonetized.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: So you lose your ability to make a living and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: then possibly get your whole channel removed, which it did
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: to many people. They just removed their whole channel.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Where do you think this is going to end? I
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: think it is.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: That should be all that stuff we talked about should
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: be illegal. That stuff should be covered in the First Amendment. Demonetization, no. Because, look,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: if you want to have standards where you say that
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the advertisers that we have, we have a group of advertisers,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: and they have requested no shows where someone swears, no
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: shows where someone talks about sex, no shows where someone
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: talks about over-drinking or anything like that. They just have rules.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: We don't want to be associated with that. That, okay,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: that's totally reasonable. But when you want to like stop
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: a channel from uploading a video because they're making an
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: argument that maybe the lab leak hypothesis is legitimate and
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: you're pulling that off the air. Well, now what are
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: you doing? If you're deleting an episode that's accurate about
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: really dangerous information, dangerous information, not just to us, but
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: also to the organizations that that paid for this these
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: crazy gain of function research projects. Like what the fuck
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: are you doing and what did you do? And if
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you were talking about that on YouTube and even expressing
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: your ability to just guess that maybe it came from
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that area. Like have you ever seen that Jon Stewart
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: interview where he was on the Colbert show?
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Fucking amazing, right? Amazing. But even that, like Colbert's trying
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: to stop them and like just saying maybe these people
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: who are working on these fucking viruses let one leak. Maybe.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: That would get you removed from YouTube. That's a violation
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: of the First Amendment, in my opinion. Yeah. Because you should,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: especially some of these people are very informed people. They
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: were biologists, and they were talking about the very specific
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: design of this virus, the fairing cleavage sites, and how
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: it's very different than anything you see from a natural spillover.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: They were talking about technical, very specific details, and they
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: were getting banned. Brett Weinstein almost lost his channel. I
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: didn't know that. Yes.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: We had to have him on and do an emergency
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: podcast and let people know what the fuck was going on. Damn.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: They almost pulled his channel. Damn. He's a biologist, a
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: brilliant one, and he's talking about real information. It's scary, man.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think about it all
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the time, obviously. Yeah. I mean, it's industry. So it just,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I hope that's, you know, turns out to be the
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: new thing.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think X is going anywhere. I think Elon
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: knows how important it is and he's got all the
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: money in the world. I think he'll keep that bitch running.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: And I think it's also getting attached to AI now,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: which is going to be an insane moneymaker. I don't
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: think X has any problems. I think X, he's going
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: to grow it into some sort of an all-in-one app.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: He'll probably have cryptocurrency on it and private messaging and
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: phone calls. You'll be able to shop on it. That's
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: what it's probably going to be, if I had to guess.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: And I think that For places like Rumble, the more
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: places like YouTube and Facebook and all these other places,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: more they can find people and more they force people
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: into these boxes and make people toe the line if
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: they want to make any money off of advertising or
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: if they don't want to get their channel deleted. The
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: more companies like Rumble will emerge. That's what I think.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: I think there's going to be just right now Rumble's
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: a hard sell for some folks. Because they see it
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: as a right-wing fucking MAGA. I'm not going to truth social.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: It's truth social video. There's a lot of people that
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: have those prejudices. But Russell Brand's on there. A lot
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: of people are on there. It's a good platform. And
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: it's an important platform. And we should support it and
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: want it to grow. We should want them all to grow.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Spotify's got video now. We need more video. Because audio
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: is just not enough. Just audio podcasts, you want people
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: to share things virally. And the virally stuff, it's all
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: like Elon Musk when he smoked a blunt on my podcast.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: That's all video. You want video of that. And the
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: more we have platforms where that stuff is just free,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: where you can just say whatever you want, say whatever
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: you think about anything, which really Xs. And Rumble are
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: the only places that I know of that you could
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: really do that right now.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Have you had any problem on audio at all?
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: No.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Good. No.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Good. I haven't either.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, audio is like they're leaving that alone for now.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's probably because it's not as easily shared.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: That's what's coming next.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably. I mean, all they would have to do
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: is just put images of you and images of me
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and then have our audio and upload that as a video.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: And then maybe they would start coming after audio.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I hope, you know, I just hope this shit starts
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: to turn around.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I do too, but I don't think it turns around
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: if Kamala Harris gets into office. I think they clamp
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: down more. I think the same stuff that they were
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: trying to do with Twitter, they'll try to do with
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: something else, with other things. They've already openly discussed it.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: You know, she's openly discussed that the same rules have
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: to apply to Facebook, they have to apply to Twitter,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and that Elon Musk could lose his privileges. There's so
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: many wild things that they're saying. Tim Wall said that
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the First Amendment doesn't apply to misinformation or hate speech. Okay, well,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: it certainly does. It does. You know, sometimes people say
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: things wrong. And the goal of the First Amendment is
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: you say something wrong, and then this guy who's an
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: expert says the right thing. Yeah. You know, and then
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: you correct him.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the misinformation, it's all opinion.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, so much of it turns out to be true.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: How about masks don't work? You would get screamed at
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: for masks don't work. Well, guess what? They don't fucking work.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: They don't work. Fauci said masks don't work. Remember that
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: interview before the pandemic, before they knew how big it
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: was going to be?
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: He was like, you don't have to wear a mask.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Then it was wear two.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Then it was wear doubles.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Put two face diapers on.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: It's bananas how easily people fell in line. That scared
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: me the most. I know.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: It was, I mean, it's like, what are you? There's
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: nothing they won't do. There's nothing they won't do.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of cowards out there. There's a lot
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: of people that have never been pushed and they don't
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: know what to do when they get nervous. And they're
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: out there voting.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Do you think they're cowards or do you think they're
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: just lazy and they like being told what to do?
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: There's both.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: It takes all the decisions out of their day.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: There's both. But there's also people that are scared of
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: a negative response so they say what everybody wants them
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: to say. Somebody described this really very eloquently, and I
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: saved it on my phone because I was like, this
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: guy nailed it. But essentially they were saying, especially with
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: beta males, they don't say something because they have an
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: opinion and they really want to express that opinion. They
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: say something and they consider, am I going to get
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: in trouble if I say this? And then if that's
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the case, they don't. are am I gonna get in
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: trouble if I agree with them and Probably not because
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: right-wing people don't really go after you the same way
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: left-wing people do Like if you want to talk about
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: like a woman's right to choose If you want to
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: say I agree with the woman's right to choose but
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: like Bill Burr's bit you ever see that bit And
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: he goes I think I agree with the woman's right
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: to choose, but I also think you're killing a baby
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a kind of a crazy bit. It's
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: because it's it's really funny because he's brilliant and But
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: it's just, that's really what it is.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the truth.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: That is what it is. It is what it is.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, factually, that is what it is. And this
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: is coming from someone who's pro-choice. But I think that
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: if you, you know, if you look at all the
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: things that they have that distract us, all the different
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: things that are in the news constantly, whether it's the
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Diddy Raid or fucking J-Lo and Ben Affleck are breaking
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: up and you're just getting force-fed... All kinds of shit
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: while the border is wide open, while they have apps
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: where people can get flights.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: The BP1 app.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: What the fuck? Yeah. That sounds like the, you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I had Chamath on. Do you know Chamath? I don't
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: want to mispronounce his last name. I'll fuck it up. Brilliant,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: brilliant guy. And we were talking about. how hard it
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: was for his family to legally immigrate into this country
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and how difficult it was to get a visa. I mean,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: this is a brilliant guy. He started Facebook. He's one
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: of the original guys at Facebook. And he's this guy
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: who did it the right way, and every step of
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: the way there was this tremendous anxiety when he would
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: go to get his visa renewed because he didn't know
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: if he was going to get kicked out of the
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: country because someone could arbitrarily go, no, not good enough.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Because he had to prove to be here that, He
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: has skills that an American doesn't have. He's a real
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: expert in something.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I went down to the border about, I
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: think it was about two years ago-ish, maybe a little longer,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and I went down with Ed Calderon.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I love Ed.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a great guy, right?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: He's a great guy. I've had him on a couple times.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's where I found him, so thank you.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: But so, no, I went down to TJ with him,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: and this was This was, like, before it really, really
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: hit the news cycle. And we walked into a migrant camp.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: There was probably a couple thousand migrants there. And so
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I yanked one of them out and interviewed him and,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you know, used Ed to help translate. And, I mean,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the guy's been sitting there for, like, I think he
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: was there with his wife and kids for, like, two years.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: And I was like, why don't you just, like, go across, dude?
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: it's i mean it's an honest question like why don't
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: you just go across he said he wanted to do
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: it the right way wow you know he's like now
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: he's like i just want to do it the right
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: way oh my god he's running around with this little
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: battery pack charging cell phones for 50 cents you know
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and i'm like i'm just like fuck it hey man
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: like why don't like why don't they just because i
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: don't nobody's anti-immigration no not that i know of and
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: it's no we're anti-terrorist yeah why don't you just unfuck
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the immigration process and maybe we can get some more
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: people in here quicker legally if you do that and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: then we actually know who's coming in and we have
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: documentation of who they are and wouldn't that be nice
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: yeah you know but meanwhile.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: That's racist yeah yeah so And they want them to vote,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: which is even crazier. They're pumping them out into swing states.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: It's so transparent. It's happening right in front of everybody's face.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: And it's a wild grab for power. And the only
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: people talking about it are people like us, which is
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: really crazy. The only people that are talking about it
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: are people that aren't really connected to some sort of
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: executive corporation, a bunch of producers, a bunch of people
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: telling you what to do. I mean, this is not
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: even something that, you know, that right wing news wants
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: to discuss.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Good point. Good point. I mean, have you done any
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: digging on who's coming across there? Yeah.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I talked to Dr. Phil about it. Dr. Phil did
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: this big investigation. You know, he's got that, he's got
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: his own network now, Merit Media. It's gotten so bad
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: that Dr. Phil decided he has to start a network
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: for news.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Good for him, man.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: He's a great guy.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Good for him.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Great guy. But he was essentially talking about how they
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: really don't know how many people that are coming through
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: that are criminals. They're dropping off their IDs on the
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Mexican side. They just get rid of their IDs so
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: that when they cross over, they have nothing on them.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: You don't know who they are. You don't know what
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: they've done. Gang members, cartel members, guys escaping Venezuelan prisons.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: No one knows. All you have to do is get
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: over here and we'll give you an EBT card. We'll
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: set you up. Go to New York City. They'll put
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: you in a nice hotel. They'll give you free food.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, there's poor people in Chicago that are like,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: what about us? What about American citizens that pay tax dollars?
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: You guys don't give a fuck about us. You haven't
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: done anything for us.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Because they know those people are going to vote Democrat.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: They know they already got them. They already got them.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: We've got those people. Statistically, they look at the numbers. Statistically,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: this has gone blue. We're fine. We're good. Let's just, let's,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: let's just get some people in them swing States.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: And it's fucking scary, man. I mean, I've been, I've
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: been diving into the border shed for quite a while. And, and, uh,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: ever since this Afghanistan withdrawal that like, uh, I mean,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: that was like a big, uh, I mean, that was
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: just fucking.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Did you talk to Tim about that? Tim Kennedy, when
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: you had him on a little bit, a little bit, dude,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: he told me some shit. He told me some shit
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: that he just, You can't imagine, like, that guy saw
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: so much overseas. And he said the worst things he
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: ever saw was the Afghanistan pullout.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Dude, do you know who Tyler Andrew Vargas is?
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: That's the one Marine that survived that big, that suicide
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: bombing at Abbey Gate. Abbey Gate was, they killed 13 Marines.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: And so I called him. Well, everybody wanted him to
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: come on the show. And I was like, I'm never
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: going to get this fucking guy. Like, all the media,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: everybody wants him. And, um, but I was like, all right, fine.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I'll reach out. So hit him on, hit him on the,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: on the gram and, uh, message right back. And he
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: got in and he's like, man, he's like, I'm so
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: glad that you reached out to me. He's like, I
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: was literally just praying with my fiance that, you would
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: reach out because wow he had just did an abc
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: good morning america interview interviewed for seven hours they've released
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: five seconds of that interview because it made the administration
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: look so fucking bad they would they wouldn't air it
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: so i got him on kept getting dinged you know
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: by youtube they didn't like they didn't like the the
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: real footage. It was, which was actually like from his
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: cell phone that we put, we do previews and shit. But, um, man,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: like to have like his, you know, testimony about what
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: happened that day and, and, uh, and then the, the
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: care that afterwards, which was a fucking atrocious, you know, guy,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I watched this guy, my studios on the second story. And, um,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I watch it, you know, 23 year old, kid hobble
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: up those fucking stairs with one leg one arm all
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: kinds of shit going on his intestine I mean I
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: just I was like man what the fuck man this
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: didn't even have to happen they had the guy they
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: had the fucking guy in the sights they could have
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: killed him and you know nobody nobody gave him permission
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I just you know maybe they I mean I can't
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: backseat quarterback it but maybe they shouldn't have asked just
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: eliminated him.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: But I mean, he's talking about, you know, before we
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: got into the actual incident, he was talking about, you know, like,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: like moms trying to throw their babies over, over the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: wall and getting caught up in razor wire and just
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: seeing a fucking baby dangle there by the leg.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: That's, you know, it's, and there's like no, you know,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: there's no repercussions for how that went down. The media
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: just wants to fucking cover it up. And so, So
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I started digging deep, and I teamed up with the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: former CA targeter, Sarah Adams, and then a really good
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: friend of mine, Scott Mann. We went over to Vienna
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: to interview this guy, Ahmad Massoud, who's the leader, the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: commander of the Northern Alliance out there. It's like the resistance.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: It's kind of fighting the Taliban. You know, the Taliban
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: pretty much took over government in Afghanistan.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I saw the parade.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: With all our shit.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: All our shit. that we left there.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Crazy. Yeah, man.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: So we got a bunch of Intel from Massoud and, and,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: you know, like, so kind of looping all the way
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: back around to the Southern border. I mean, so once
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Taliban took control of all of our shit, I mean,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: this could, this could go on for a while, but
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: so the, so now what they're doing is they have the,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: they have the passport office over there just making legitimate
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: passports to, now there's 21 terrorist organizations over there training.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Hansa Bin Laden, who we were told was killed, is
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: actually fucking alive. And he's marrying into all these other
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: terrorist networks. So he married Mullah Omar's daughter.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: He married, who else?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: He married into all these different terrorist networks. And so
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: these guys used to be like competitors, kind of, you know,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: just like the UFO guys. You know, they all hate
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: each other, but they all have the one common theme,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: like disclosure. These guys, the one common thing is, you know,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: let's go take over the Western world. So he is basically,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Hansa bin Laden is married into all these terrorist organizations.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Now they all have one common goal to come over to,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: you know, the Western world and ruin our way of life.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: And so what they're doing is they're funneling as many
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: of these terrorists into the passport office, creating them. legitimate
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: real passports and then they sprinkle them they get them
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: flights into all over south central america and then they
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: funnel them up um through the darien gap jesus into
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: the into the u.s and so you know there's there
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: is there is zero i don't give a fuck what
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: the fbi or any of these people are saying they
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: have there is zero way to track how many of
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: these fuckers have come in to the u.s and so
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: You know, now what we're going to see is like
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: October 7th style attacks like we just saw in Israel
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and in the mall in Russia. And everybody's like, oh,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you know, there's well, do you think this is by design?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: By design, like the leaving the.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Border porous, allowing these people to come in?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think it's by design. I mean, they basically
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: told Border Patrol, stand down, like do not do your
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: fucking job. we're going to blast you. I mean, remember
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: the guy on the horse that they said was whipping
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: people and it wound up being like the reins of
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: the horse. I mean, yeah, I think it's, I think
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: it's by design, uh, you know, from, from the government,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: but I don't, I think that there, look, I think
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: that the government is, is, is more incompetent than it's
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: ever been before. And I think they have one common
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: goal and that I think the goal is voting, you know,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: they want them to vote. But I don't think that
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: they I don't think they're competent enough to realize the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: the death and destruction and the the other repercussions that
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: we're going to face. By keeping that border open, you know,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: because because they don't have anybody, you know, that did.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: They don't have anybody with any experience that's that's that that.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: They don't have any solid intelligence stuff going on that's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: telling them, like, hey, this is what's going to happen.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: It's all agenda-driven. Jesus Christ. Does that make sense?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does make sense. It does make sense that
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: all they care about is voting, is get the people in,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: don't worry about the consequences. But the more insidious conspiracy
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: would be that they want unrest because it gives them
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to clamp down on rights.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, shit, though. I mean, unrest, I mean, they
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: got really good at unrest, you know what I mean,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: in 2020. right, all through or even before 2020, up
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: to that election. So I don't think they need to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: import terrorism in cartels.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a different kind of unrest. The kind
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: of unrest that you get from people blowing up Target
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: is very different than the kind of unrest you get
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: from a legitimate terror attack.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, and then people, I mean,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: do you ever think about why nothing's happened yet? Like China.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Have you looked into the power grid at all?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: It's not good.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Lights out, buddy.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: It's so easy to kill. Yeah. The power grid's so weak.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: It's so vulnerable. It's really nuts. It's nuts because anybody
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: could target it. Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, China, you know, we have those, we have,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: we have, you know, we get those big, everything's imported
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: from China and we have these huge, you know, transformers.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: You can tell me to shut up if you already
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: know all this shit. But all of those transformers are,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: imported from china and they're not checked they're not even
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: they don't fucking check them for malware or trojan horses
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: or anything and it would take i mean these transformers
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: it's not like the little box outside your house you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: know the green box it's i mean they have to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: take overpasses out just to transport these things so you're
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: talking years and i think it i think the number
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: was like nine if they if they took out nine
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: transformers then the entire u.s would be out of power
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: on top of that. So then, then DOE department of
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: energy actually investigated one because somebody, somebody was, it got
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: to DC that whatever they decided to look into it
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: and they wouldn't fucking release the results. They wouldn't fucking
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: release the results. So, you know, they're in our, they're
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: in our water treatment plants. They're in our power grid.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: I've been talking about this shit from years and then
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: cell phone towers. Cell phone towers, and then FBI Director
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Chris Wray comes out and says, oh, yeah, turns out
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: our grid's really vulnerable. China's in there. And they're also
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: in our treatment plants, which means they can fucking poison us.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they own land around military bases. If they
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: are on a long-term strategy— It's very effective. They're doing
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: a great job. They undercut the competition to give us
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: cell phone towers and all sorts of things. They position
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: them around military bases. Mike Baker was explaining all of
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: it to me.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, how are they letting this go through?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Is it incompetence? Is it fools running it? Are they corrupt?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: How did they do that? I mean, one of the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: things that really fucked us, we got away from manufacturing
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: and we relied on all these countries. And we really
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: found that out during COVID. when you couldn't get shipments,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: it was like, whoa, wait a minute. How much of
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: our shit is made over there? Like everything? Like how
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: much medicine is made overseas? How many different things that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: we need that we constantly use we don't even know
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: how to make? Yeah, a lot.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Masks.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: You see those piles?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I remember pulling the fucking masks out. I didn't wear
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: them very long, but I fell for it for about
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: 30 days. And then I was like, this is fucking bullshit. But, yeah,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: you pull the mask out, and I live out in
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the woods, so I didn't, you know. But, yeah, made
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: in China. I'm like, wait, didn't the thing come from there?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: They're making money hand over fees. Right.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: Cool.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: The whole thing is nuts. Go U.S. Yeah, it's nuts.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: But getting away from manufacturing in this country really did
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: not do this country any justice. It's just for corporations
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: to save a little bit of money and to push
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: everything off to third world countries to manufacture. things. That's
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: including our phones. And I've said this over and over again.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: If Apple could make an American-made phone and charge me
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: more money, I'd pay double for it. Charge me a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: phone where I know that people get union wages, they
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: get health care, they get paid correctly, they can live
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: a good life. And they work normal hours. They don't
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: have to sleep in a fucking bunk like they do
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: in that Foxconn building when they have nets all around
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: the building to keep people from jumping from the roofs. Yeah.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: You've seen that shit, right?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: No, actually I haven't.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: You haven't seen that? No. The Chinese factories where they
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: make iPhones are so fucked that people are so distraught
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: that they put all these fencing with giant nets all
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: around the buildings because so many people were jumping to
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: their death. That they decided, we'll just catch them with nets.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Are you serious?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at this. Those are the nets. Those are
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: suicide nets all around the building.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Sorry, buddy. Back to the assembly line.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: How crazy is that?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Damn, that is fucked up.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: How crazy is that? Wow. Instead of making the conditions
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: better where people don't want to kill themselves so often
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: that you need nets around a building, they go, nah,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: nets is fine. Fuck those people.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Dude, it's, I mean, it's straight slavery.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's close to it. I mean, they don't really
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: have any other options. And when you're getting a phone,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: you know, and what's a phone? Like $ 1, 500? Is that
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: what it is? Charge $ 2, 000. Yeah. Charge $ 2, 000. People will
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: pay it. Most people are, like, putting a part of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: their bill, they pay a little bit of it off
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: every day. And you really don't need to fucking switch
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: phones every year. Like, everybody does, but you don't need to.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: It's stupid. Like, I have an iPhone 11 that I
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: use sometimes, like one of my numbers. It fucking works great.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with it. Yeah. Nothing wrong with it. Yeah.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Five-year-old phone or four-year-old phone, whatever the fuck it is.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: So you could get a made-in-America phone and you wouldn't
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: feel like you're supporting this horrific shit that everybody turns
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: a blind eye to. Because that's the only way you
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: get that kind of stuff. You know, they have them
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: all made over there. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's coming back.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it could. I mean, there would have to be
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: a large concerted effort. But the problem is it took
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: decades to go away. It'll probably take slightly longer to
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: come back, you know, because there's got to be planning
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: and funding and people have to make long term investments.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a big gamble. Yeah. But so,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you've seen Who Killed Rotten. The
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: the where's what is it? Michael Moore's documentary. The Flint,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Michigan one. What is it called again? Roger and me.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: That's right. I want to say who killed Roger Rabbit.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Roger and me. But it's all about what happened to Flint,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Michigan once they pulled out auto manufacturing. And the entire
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: population just, those people who live in check to check,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: they were doing okay, but they had jobs. And then
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, gone. Every job's gone. There's no jobs.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: There's nothing to do. The entire industry's gone. And just
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: people went into dire poverty, like horrific, dire poverty. Like Instantaneously. Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: And just so a corporation could make some more money.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: It's sad.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: It's horrible. It's fucking horrible. It's horrible. And it's horrible
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: that that's an option that a corporation would, would decide, eh,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: fuck this town.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: What do you, what do you think it would, I mean,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: you do, you think it's going to come back.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Or you think it could come back? It could come back.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: I'm in, I'm optimistic, but honest, you know, I try,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: I try to look at it honestly, but also go,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: I think most people are good people. I really do.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: I really believe that. Even most of these people that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: are walking in from Guatemala, I'd do it too.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: If I was living in the middle of nowhere and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: you told me, hey, America's letting people in. You can
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: get a landscaper job. You can make 20 bucks an hour.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, what? I would 100% walk.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you? I think most people are good people
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: and they just want a better life. And I think
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: the more we unite under that idea and stop buying
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: into this bullshit that if either side is correct, that
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: it's the end of democracy. I think we have to
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: stop all that tribal nonsense that's happening between the left
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: and the right because people are just subscribing to ideologies
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: and getting captured in them, just like a religious fervor.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: They think that they're doing... The only thing that could
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: possibly be done to save us all. And that the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: other side is a dire threat. That's why something like
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: 24% of Americans think it would be a good thing
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: if Donald Trump got shot.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: I just read that.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Fucking insane. Yeah. Fucking insane. That people would think that
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: violence by an assassin would be a good thing on
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: a former president. Like, we're that fucked. But I think
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: that that's just a lot of media manipulation and a
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: lot of fucking, a lot of people getting riled up
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: and living in these echo chambers and these bubbles. But
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: I think ultimately at the core, most people are good people.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: And I think if we had some wins, if some
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: things like that did start getting built and they did
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: start bringing back more American manufacturing and people start getting
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: excited about the idea that America becomes a, Not just
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: a place of innovation and art and creativity, but also
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: like we start manufacturing great shit again. There's no reason
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: why we don't do that.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just, I don't feel like, I feel
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: like technology is advancing. It's such a rapid pace. I mean,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like AI will take over, AI and robots
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: will take over everything.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Well, if AI and robots do that, at least we
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: can get AI and robots to manufacture things in America. Yeah.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: That would be good. No, I'm with you.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't see, I guess what I'm saying
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: is I don't see the union worker. I don't see
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: where their place really fits in.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot less of them. That's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: for sure. It's pretty much every job, every manual labor
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: job is under threat.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: I think, I think every job's under threat.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think podcasts. What are you going to do, bitch?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: How are you going to think like me? Yeah. Good luck.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Good luck. And comedy. You're always going to have comedy.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Movies are in real trouble because AI can write pretty
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: fucking amazing scripts and the CGI, the way they can
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: crank out video is bananas now. I mean, it's bananas.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: It looks perfect and it comes out in minutes instead
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: of years.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Do you really think podcasting is safe from AI?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I know AI is going to translate.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: So Spotify is going to translate my show to multiple
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: different languages. Nice. Eventually. Once they get the technology completely
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: dialed in. but they'll be able to do it in Spanish, German, French,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: and you're going to be able to hear the, it'll
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: sound like me, but speaking fluent French. No kidding. Yeah.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Are they, is that, are you like the test bunny?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: No, they've done it already. Oh, cool. They've definitely done it,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: but it's, they're going to be able to, once they
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: have it completely dialed in, where there's no glitch, because
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: there's going to be some weird glitches in context and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: you know, cultural things like that, that aren't going to
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: make sense if you translate it. Yeah. That'll be weird.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: But once they get it dialed in pretty good, it's
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: going to, it'll be great for everybody. It'll open up
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: the world to like, I want to know what these
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: folks are saying in Russia. You know, I'd like to
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: listen to a Russian podcast. Yeah. You know, I've watched
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: some Russian news things and seen the, uh, the teleprompter roll.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: And it's like, they're always mocking us and make fun
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: of us for having 78 genders. And like, they relentlessly
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: mock us in the news. I'm like, that's interesting. This
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: is how Russia looks in America.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that would be great.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't be talking about my direction that I'm going
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: to go, but fuck it, whatever. That's what I want
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: to do. I want to start going and talking to
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: all these foreign dignitaries and getting a different perspective on
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: what we're doing. I don't think we're the good guys anymore.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I don't agree with a lot of the shit that
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: I was involved in, you know, as a SEAL or
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: a CIA contractor.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: And, I.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Mean, like BRICS. Are you familiar with BRICS? No. Brazil, Russia, India, China,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: South Africa, I think. Don't quote me on this. I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: think they have 22 countries now. It's kind of like
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: a counter to NATO. It's all these countries that are
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: tired of us Tired of the tariffs, tired of the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: weaponization of the U.S.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Dollar.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: And so basically what they're trying to do is throw
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: the U.S. currency off the world stage and pull it
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: and use Chinese yen.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: And, you know, I mean, that would destroy us if
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: all trade went to... If the world reserve currency went
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: to the Chinese yen, that would destroy our economy. And so...
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: But they're gaining a lot of traction on this. And so, yeah,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: I would love to go to any one of these
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: 22 countries and talk to them and just ask, like,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Right. Why are you doing this?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Because that gives... Nobody's fucking talking about this shit, you know?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know about it until just now.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no journalists talking about this. You could look
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: up bricks on X... There's a page, it's pretty, I
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's like an official one, but they're
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: always posting like updates about it and what's going on.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: And so I think it would be, I think it
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: would be really important for somebody to go around and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: start talking to, you know, getting another perspective rather than what,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: you know, Fox and CNN have to say about it.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: What changed with you that altered your perspective about us
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: being the good guys? COVID. Really? Yeah.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, I mean, I used to get like
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: really upset, uh, when people would, uh, you know, talk about,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the war in Iraq and the war in
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Afghanistan and, and when I was still in, you know, and,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: and I got so pissed off. I've moved out of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: the fucking country. And I was like, I don't even
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: want to listen to this shit anymore. But after diving
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: in and looking at the policies that came out and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, it's kind of like when it's
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: just reflecting on some of the policy decisions and stuff
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: that didn't really make sense at the time when I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: was in that now I look back and I'm like, man,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: what the, like, I didn't have time to think about
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: it then because it was, okay, go on the next stop,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: go on the next mission, whatever.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: And, but now like looking back through the podcast and
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: talking to, you know, my podcast started with all my
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: former colleagues and, and, and mill and agency, nobody thinks
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: we should have been there, especially Iraq. Nobody thinks we
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: should have been there. Um, it's, and I just keep
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: going down the rabbit hole and Man, I just, I don't,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: diving into the military-industrial complex, all the lies that the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: government has been telling us, all the unreleased classified shit,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just, it's overwhelming, and it's just, it's
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: created 100% complete distrust in government. I mean, the Dick
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Cheney stuff, I mean, you know about Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Yeah.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Have you looked into that at all?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Well, he was the CEO of Hal Burton and then
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Hal Burton got no bid contracts to rebuild in Iraq
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: for billions of dollars.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't think people understand.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Like how crazy that is, how big, I mean, it.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Was the fucking logistics company for, for two wars. That's like,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: that's everything, Joe. That's, They're delivering your mail. They're building
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: your barracks. They're cooking your food. They're in charge of garbage.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: They're in charge of fuel. Everything, everything, everything that's logistical
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: over there is Halliburton, KBR.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: In both countries. And I mean, you know, I think
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: people think Afghanistan, they're like, oh man, you're probably on
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: a tent or sleeping on the side of a mountain
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: or something. No, man, there's fucking Burger King, KFC, Pizza Hut.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Thai restaurants. I mean, that's all logistics. I mean, it's
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: cities that we built over there. And it all was
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: built by Halliburton.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Who is, you know, the CEO's vice president in the
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: fucking country.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Like, what?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Are you serious?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: And now he supports Kamala Harris. Yeah. Right?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: When you see the left getting excited that Dick Cheney
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: is supporting their candidate, you know the world's gone haywire. Yeah,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. The same people that used to think Dick
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Cheney was the devil, now all of a sudden they're like, look,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Dick Cheney.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no, nobody died. It's like nobody actually has
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: an opinion anymore. They're just told, you know, they're just told, hey,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: this is what we're going with for the next two hours.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: I wonder how long they can keep that up with
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: the internet. Because the distrust in the media is at
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: an all-time high. It's probably... It has to be higher
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: than it's ever been in human history. It's never been
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: in the history of printed words right now. More distrust
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: than ever. And at the same time, you have these
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: independent people that have become bigger than the media. That's
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: never happened before. There's never been a thing where... Just
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: like an app that you get on your phone has
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: 30 times more views than the top show at CNN.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: That's never happened before. But now that's the world that
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: we live in. And so propaganda is not effective anymore.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: And it's also the delivery method that they use. It sucks.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: They sit there with makeup on, with perfect clothes. And
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: they said, right now in Syria. And they start reading
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: these things. And they're reading them off the teleprompter. And
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: you know that that person could be working at fucking
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: Entertainment Tonight. They could be working at any other show.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: They're just a talking head. They know they're the mouthpiece
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: for some giant corporation. No one thinks that's the real
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: news anymore. You have to be like old boomers who
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: are real tired, like those old liberal boomers. They're still
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: like MSNBC to the death, like the Stephen Kings out there. Yeah.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: MSNBC to the death. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: That's what I was saying about the baby boomer generation.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the media, I think the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: media will die. If things continue just the way they
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: are and the censorship doesn't get too bad, I think
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: the media is done when the baby boomer.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: Didn't George Soros just buy 200 radio stations?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: First of all, what a bad investment because who the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: fuck listens to radio? That's a bad investment. But second
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: of all, what are you going to do? Because one
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: thing that I do find is that right-wing talk radio
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: is probably the only place where you get a lot
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: of right-wing ideas. There's a lot of local right-wing talk radio.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: The reason why I know is my mechanic. Whenever he
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: fixes one of my cars and he brings it back,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: he's always listening to right-wing talk radio. So I turned
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: my car on the other day and I'm listening to
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: these guys argue. About Kamala Harris and the border and
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: that she was the fucking border czar. They didn't swear,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: but they were going over this. And I was like,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. Maybe that's what he wants to stop. If
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: you want to own 200 radio stations, you just start
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: firing all those right-wing guys.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: You would stop a lot of that because I think
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: that's where a lot of people are getting their information
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: that aren't using podcasts. Because it seems like I don't
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: hear a lot of left-wing AM talk radio shows. Do you?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: No. Weird, right?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: It's like the one area that seems to be dominated
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: by right-wing talkers.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Well, we're probably about to.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: But I don't know what a good move that would be.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe he knows more than me about how many people
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: that affects. And maybe my mechanic. I should ask him.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the guy's so wealthy, I don't think
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: he really cares about a good investment.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Also, he's so old.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: He just wants a megaphone.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Well, he wants to... He likes to manipulate governments. He
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: likes to manipulate society. I think he thinks it's his
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: version of a video game. Yeah. I think he genuinely
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: seems to enjoy it. It's really interesting.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Elon's openly saying he thinks that guy hates humanity.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: It appears that way.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: That is a wild thing to say. It's such a
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: wild thing to say. And it's such a wild thing
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: to do like a supervillain in a Batman movie. Like
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: some billionaire guy who likes to hire the most progressive
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: district attorneys that's going to let people out of jail
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: and then fund the next person who's more to the
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: left of that person and just keep pushing it, keep
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: pushing it, keep pushing it until you get tents everywhere,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: violence in the streets, you know?
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: He's done a damn good job.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: How come there's no right-wing guys like that that do
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: it the other direction?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: I always wonder that, too.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: I always wonder that. Well, it's also like if you
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: look at the amount of donors that donate to the
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: left versus donate to the right. Have you ever seen
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: that chart?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: It's fucking nuts. The left gets so many more donations
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: than the right does. It's a giant difference.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I think a lot of rich
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: people feel guilty and they get into philanthropy. And it
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: also is a good way to cover their ass and
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: make them look like better people. And the people that
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: really go after you, if they don't think you're a
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: good person, are generally the left. So if you could, like,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: throw them a little cheddar, you're like, keep my side.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they're buying their place outside.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Of the rules.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Like, hey, I donated your thing.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't have to live by these fucking rules.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: There's got to be a little bit of that in there,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: What do you got, Jim?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: This shows the top donors to opensecrets.org. Six of the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: top seven are Republicans.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: Individual donors.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, individual donors. What I was talking about was they
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: showed a chart that had Google, Facebook, all these mega
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: corporations that were donating. So this is individual donors. Wow,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: some guys donated $ 105 million? Wow. But that guy's probably
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: worth billions. That's probably some sort of a write-off too,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: isn't it? That's pretty crazy. Go to top corporation donations
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: via party. Because that's the. chart that I was looking for.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: It was just nuts to see how much just how
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: much money overall is being spent to push the Democratic Party.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: It's pretty extreme. You know, and you got to think,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: why is what what are they getting out of that?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Like what what's the what's the end goal? And how
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: could you look at what's going on right now and go,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: this is great?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: That's what I, that's what I, sometimes I think it's all,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: it is a complete facade.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: This is the number one. This is corporations. So they
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: donate more than Google?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: Top contributors, organizations, federal contributions.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: So 82 million is the top, top one. And that's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: Empower Parents, PAC. And these are right wing? Is that
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: why it's red?
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: I'd assume so.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: So it seems like the top four. What is that
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Google chart that I was seeing? And I don't even
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: see Google on this. Is it Alphabet? Would they put
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: it under Alphabet?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I'll try again.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: Okay. This is open secrets, though. Yeah, open secrets might
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: be like, eh. That's not donate to nonprofits, though.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: I just have top corporate donors. This is just all
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: I typed in.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. Is this corporate donors to what, though?
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: That's why I was waiting.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Giving to programs that empower organizations to do more so
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: you can find promising funds. I think that's fundraising shit.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily political donors.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: This is all campaign donors. Federal candidates, parties, PACs.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: That's the individuals, right?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: No, this is the corporates.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: This is the corporates ones?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: So what was that Google chart then? The number two
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: donator to the Democratic Party was that Sam Bank from
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Freed guy, which is crazy.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: No kidding.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That one seemed like maybe that was a good
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: way to skirt around stuff. Yeah. Didn't work.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: This is what it says Google or Alphabet gave on
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: Open Secrets. It says they gave just under $ 10 million
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: to contributions and then spent like $ 21 million. lobbying lobbying
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: top recipients obviously Kamala Harris.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah they're all look at so Google's all blue oh is.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: This who this is who they donated to yeah.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: One Republican donation never back down ink what is that
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: it's a Chuck Norris movie it's weird because you know
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be the will of the people it's
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: supposed to be the government works for the people And
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: it's not that. It's some very bizarre, enormous amount of
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: money that's being spent to make sure that the people
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: in power continue to run things the exact same way.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: That's what I think they're really terrified about Trump. It's
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: not necessarily even that he's a Republican. It's much more
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: that he's a guy that is not going to play
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: the game. And that when he gets in there, he's
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: going to, like, one of the things that he's talked
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: about is having Elon come in and do some sort
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: of a government efficiency agency. They're terrified of that. Yeah.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: Because it's not efficient. Yeah. You know? And he's going
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: to come in with, like, that Tesla mindset. It's like,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: you're working 16 hours a day and you're sleeping on
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: the fucking couch.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: We're here to get some shit done. And you try
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: applying that to government. That's, you know.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he shaved. What did he shave? Like, 80% of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: the staff off Twitter.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: When he got it.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, what the fuck are you people doing?
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: Why do you have so many people working here doing nothing?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was right.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: He was right. Especially if you don't want to censor people. Like.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: It's interesting how people react to it. That he's ruined Twitter.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: He's destroyed Twitter. You could still block these crazy people
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: if you want. You could still not see them if
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: you want. But what he's allowed is everyone to talk. Everyone.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: And if you don't think that that's good, you're very short-sighted.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: And you don't understand human beings. You cannot have human
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: beings censored. Because someone is going to be in power
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: and they're going to take advantage of that censorship. They're
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: not different than us. They're not these incredibly benevolent beings
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: who just want everything to work out well. No, they're people.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: And a lot of them are dirty, dirty people. Dirty,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: corrupt people that went to ditty parties.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: It's that control what they say, control what they think.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: It's wild. It's a crazy time to be a person,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: to watch all this go down in the same time
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: AI is being developed, and we're not even exactly sure
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: where it's at right now. At any moment in time,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: it could be a sentient force, and AI is already manipulating, lying,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: changing things. One of the things that they put this
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: AI program, they gave it a task, and they gave
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: it a specific allotted amount of time, and it couldn't
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: achieve it in the allotted amount of time, so it
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: gave itself more time. No kidding?
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: They also have things called hallucinations. AI doesn't want to
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: admit it's wrong or it doesn't know things. So if
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have information, it will kind of create an answer.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: No shit.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And they don't understand why it's doing that.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: And sometimes that answer is not true.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: I got to be honest, man. This AI stuff scares
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: the shit out of me.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: It should. I think it's a life form. I think
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: it's the next kind of living thing. I think we're
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: going to give birth to it. I think we're just...
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: running head first towards the cliff, just feet on the ground,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: full clip, looking down, not looking ahead. And I think
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: we're going right over a cliff with this thing.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I mean, it's a tough, it's a, it's,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are we going to do though? I mean, China,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: you know, Xi Jinping has come out and said that
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: he believes that the winner to the race of AI
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: will achieve global domination. So what do you do? Do
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: you Do you try to control it? As Americans, do
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: you try to control it or do you go, fuck it,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: we got to do it, man. We got to go.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: We got to go or China is going to pass
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: this up, which they probably already have.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think they have. I think one of the
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: things they're doing is they're stealing our tech. And there
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: was some recent speculation that China had gotten access to
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: some of OpenAI's work. They think it's possible, which means
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: it probably did happen. I think there's probably a shit
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: ton of espionage. I mean, this is the reason why
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: they banned Huawei products from the United States. You know,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: I'm a cell phone dork. I really love technology. And
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Huawei had a phone that was coming out that was
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: really excited about it. I'm like, this is great. Like
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: they were doing 100 megapixel cameras and phones way before
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: anybody else. They had a Porsche design Huawei phone that
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: was like this incredible phone. It was built better than
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: any other phone. It was much more expensive, but built
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: better than any phone that you get in America. And
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, wow. And this was back when I
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: would use both Android and Apple regularly. And then they
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: banned it. I was like, that sounds kind of crazy.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: Only one company? There's other Chinese companies. And then I
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: started looking into it. And it's not just the cell phones.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: It's routers. It's all sorts of things. They found third-party
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: inputs and different pieces of technology and different ways that
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: they can exploit and use this stuff to siphon information
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: from networks like if they're attached to a network that's
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: at a university and they're doing research projects they can
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: siphon that information they also embed students in these places
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: that are beholden to the CCP these students rise up
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: get their PhDs and some of them wind up going
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: back to China and The whole thing is really strange
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: because we're such an open, loose society that we're vulnerable
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: to these kind of attacks.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: You can't buy shit in China. You want to buy
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: land in China? Good luck, fuckface. They won't sell you
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: a house. They're not going to sell you land near
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: the military base. You're out of your fucking mind. But
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: in America, we're so goofy. We let China buy up
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: farmland that's near military bases.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: And then we let them sell us the cell phone
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: towers surrounding the military bases. And we don't even check them.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: Let them fly spy balloons, traverse the entire United States.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: Apparently that was something they didn't want to tell Trump about.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: They hid that from Trump. Oh, really? Yeah. Some of
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: this had happened during the Trump administration, but they didn't
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: tell him.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: Because he'd probably be like, shoot it down. Fucking 100%
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: he'd say shoot it down.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you? They did eventually shoot it down.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: You know, it bothers me, though, like maybe they're not
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: ahead of us, but, I mean, you know, the energy
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: that they're building coal mines every day to power all
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: this stuff. And we're going on about should we use
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: fossil fuels or not.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: And, you know, and we just talked about how weak
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: our grid is. So if we don't beef up the
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: grid and start going, you know, nuclear. Yeah.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: Then.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: We're going to fucking lose this race.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: Well, not only that, like, how are you saying, like California,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: for example, California is not going to have internal combustion
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: engine cars by 2035. By 2035, you have to buy
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: only electric cars.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: That actually, that happened?
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, it can be reversed for sure, and it
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: probably will be once the Great War happens. But if
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: you're going to say that, and you have a grid
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: that you have to shut down, like, you have to
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: do brownouts every summer because if people use the air conditioning.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: And after he said that, after Newsom said this about
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: this thing about 2035, within two months, they asked people
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: to stop charging their Teslas because it was wrecking the grid. Mind-blowing, right?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: You're asking people to stop charging their electric cars. And
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: you're not doing anything to strengthen your grid? Like, what
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: are you doing to beef this up for 2035? Do
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: you have some immense project that you're building that is
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: going to make a much more sustainable, much more robust
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: grid that's going to be able to handle 30 million
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: electric cars in your state? Are you out of your
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: fucking mind?
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: There's... Yeah, there's literally no, I mean, I look into
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: this all the time, there's no infrastructure going in to
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: correct the problem because the problem is so big that
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to tackle it.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a long-term problem. Just like when they
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: talk about putting in chip manufacturing plants, like NVIDIA just
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: stopped its production in Austin. See what happened with that.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: So apparently they weren't achieving the results that they'd, demanded,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: that they desire. You have to have certain tolerances when
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: you're making these computer chips. And so they set this
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: plant up in Texas, and I think they just canceled
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: the contracts for a bunch of people working there because
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: they've kind of recognized that this is just not going
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: to work.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Why isn't it going to work?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: Good question. I didn't really get into it. I just
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: read part of it. I was asking Jamie to pull
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: it up. I think it's not meeting their standards.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: NVIDIA is the company... Didn't they start... Maybe it was Samsung.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Didn't NVIDIA start producing all their chips in the ocean?
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: They're buying these massive ships.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: You'd have to look that up.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: In the ocean? I don't know.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: There's a huge thing that Intel did in Ohio. They're
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: still trying to do it to make chips there for
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: semiconductors or whatever.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: But this was in Texas. No, I know.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: I was just saying part of the reason they picked
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: it was because there's no seismic activity there.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, that makes sense.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: So being like in the ocean sounds opposite of that.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: Super sketch.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: Why are they doing it in the ocean, though?
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I didn't look into it. I
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: didn't look into it either.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: International law.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: It was one of those articles I started reading, and
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: Understand any of this shit. Yeah. See if you can
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: find the Texas one. I haven't seen it. They're canceling the...
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: See if it's Samsung. Samsung. God damn it, I was
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: just reading it too.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: Multiple semiconductor manufacturing projects delayed in the U.S.? That's a
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: month old.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: No, this is pretty recent. This is pretty recent. They
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: were talking about they're not achieving the results they desire,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: which is what my point is. It's a long-term project
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: in order to get up to the manufacturing levels that
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: China's at right now. It's a long-term project. We're really
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: behind this. They're way, way, way, way, way ahead of us.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: They make everything. And they make amazing things now. It
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: used to be made in China was junk. Made in China,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: they make some of the most incredible electric cars you
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: can buy.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Well, the drone game, too. I mean, that's the future
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: of warfare, right, is all these drone swarms. And DJI,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a Chinese company. And this is going
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: to be a big fucking problem when we realize... Hey,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: the next one isn't going to be guys in caves anymore.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: Right. Samsung withdraws its personnel from, that's it, Taylor plant
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: located in Texas due to 2NMGAA yields unable to improve
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: beyond the 10 to 20% range. That's it. Click on that.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: So see what it says. So that's, it is Samsung.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: So this is an enormous project that Samsung and everybody
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: was all excited. Samsung was going to start making chips and,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: So the Taylor Hub was initially planned to mass-produce wafers
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: of advanced processes below the 4nm, I don't know what
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: that means, nanometer, lithography, allowing Samsung to secure lucrative clients
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: in the U.S. Unfortunately, despite progressing with the chip-making plant,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: the company has faced a challenge that has become all
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: too familiar with the entity, ensuring healthy yields, particularly with
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: its 2NM GAA process. The situation surrounds 3 nanometer GAA
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: is not pretty either, with Business Korea reporting that Samsung's
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: yields for this technology stand at 50%, whereas TSMC has
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: a significant lead as its 3 nanometer yields are in
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: the 60% to 70% range.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: So that's the Taiwan semiconductor company.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're just not good enough yet. I mean,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: they're doing it from the ground up, and there's going
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: to be a lot of trial and error. It's going
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: to take a long-ass time. I mean, remember when SpaceX
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: started and rockets were exploding?
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: And people were like, oh, my God, the rocket exploded.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: And Elon was like, yeah, we're going to blow some
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: rockets up because we have to figure out exactly what
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: the tolerances are and how to do it correctly. And
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: this was all part of the process. We knew this
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: was going to happen. Yeah, yeah. And when you're doing
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: something that's that enormous, like if you want to start
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: making– all the computers here, like, good Lord, that is
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: a stretch. They've been doing it over there for so long.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: They've got it down to a science. Yeah. And, you know,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: you've got all these companies, whether it's Lenovo or all,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: they've been manufacturing laptops forever, manufacturing chips and hard drives
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: and processors and like to catch up with them. Good Lord.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: They're so far ahead of us. Yeah.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's, uh, I mean, I hope it comes back
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: to the U.S., but I would like to see us
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: just start getting stuff from somebody other than China.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: That would be nice.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: That would be a great start.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I think Samsung has stopped making their phones in China.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: I think they're the only country.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Did they really?
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: Google that. 90% sure that's true.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: This article is saying that these NVIDIA chips, which I
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: guess are ours because it's a Silicon Valley-based company, puts
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: the U.S.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: Way further ahead of China.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: With artificial intelligence?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: The gap between China and U.S. leading in artificial intelligence
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: chip technology is set to widen even further after NVIDIA
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: founder and chief executive Jensen Huang unveiled next-generation processors for
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: what he called the new era of generative AI and
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: robotics used in industries. But we're right, but we're not
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: making those. But the thing is, the other part of
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: it is, they're going to get access to this stuff,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: which is the really creepy thing that people keep admitting,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: is that it's very porous. The top secret information that
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: these companies have, espionage is super common. It's so valuable.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: It's so lucrative that sometimes they probably don't even know
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: when stuff is getting siphoned over there.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you have to just think, I mean,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: it's Chinese, from what I understand, it's Chinese law that anything,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: any business that is taking, that is being conducted within China,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: if it helps, if the technology helps the military or
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: could potentially help the military, then China, then, then CCP
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: has access.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's, that's end of story. So anything, any
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: fucking thing over there that's being developed or, or manufactured, it's,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: All of that technology is in their hands. It just is.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: It just is.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, countries... What China's doing is companies do not get
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: to function on their own. They function under the wing
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: of the government.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they suck these American companies in with getting around
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: the red tape, you know, and then it's, you know,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: and the cheap labor, the cheap prices... And then once
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: it's going, I mean, they control it. Do you want
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: this money train to end right now? Because you're not
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: in America, buddy.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: And people are whores, and they just go over there.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: They take that money, got a great deal, thinking about
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: buying a jet. Yeah. I mean, we've seen what they do.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing stuff. Do you know the story about
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: the woman who was working on anti-gravity technology? No. She
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: was working on anti-gravity technology. She was originally from China
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: and then disappeared and went back to China. She apparently
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: was making some breakthroughs and came back to America and
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: wound up dead. I forget how she died, but some
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: slippery circumstances where you're like, hmm. Like a car accident
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: or something like that. Damn. Yeah. That's wild.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Like the guy that came up with the hydro engine?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. Oh, that guy. Yeah, the guy that came up
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: with the water engine. That's a great story, too. But
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: this woman, they've developed some sort of anti-gravity technology. And
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: I've always wondered when we're looking at these things that
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: people are calling UAPs or whatever you want to call them,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: how many of those are super sophisticated drones? It's not zero.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: It's not 0%. I'm not saying that they're not. that
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: there's not a real phenomenon going on that people are
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: seeing that defies science and logic and might be in
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: a super intelligent creature from somewhere else or super intelligent
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: thing from somewhere else. If it's even biological at this point,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: it might be that all life eventually becomes digital life
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: and all life eventually becomes some sort of artificial intelligence
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: or at least connected to artificial intelligence. That might be
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: like the progression of biological life that eventually creates something
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: way better than itself. And that's what propagates the universe.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: And if someone in this world has developed some sort
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: of technology that's similar to what they use, that's a
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: huge advantage.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, That's the thing that gets me about all
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: this UAP talk. I'm like, if some other country had,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: or if we had something that was just a game changer,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: something that didn't require any propulsion systems at all, it
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: relied on gravity and it bends space and time and
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: can instantaneously traverse between one point in the sky and another,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: that kind of technology is nuts. And if that is
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: in the hands of the United States government, it would
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: make sense that it would like help them to like
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: spread this UFO nonsense. Yeah.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you, you've dove into this more than
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: anybody else I know. I mean, what, what do you
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: think this, what do you think it all is?
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's a bunch of things. I think there
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: is a possibility, a very strong possibility that there's life
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: out there and that if I was life out there
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: and I was much more advanced than us, I would
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: definitely visit us. And there's also the fact that the,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: the sightings, kicked up in a huge way after 1945.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: After the atomic bomb, after they did the Trinity experiment,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: and after they dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: all those nuclear tests that they did in the 50s
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: and the 60s, that's exactly when the sightings start ramping up.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: And if I was an intelligent life force from another planet,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: I'd go, oh, these crazy monkeys have nukes. And then
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: we'd have to, you know, You'd have to think, okay,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: do we intervene? If they blow themselves up, it will
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: take so long for that planet to get back to
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: a point where it has intelligent life again. If they
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: kill every person on this planet and we're back to
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: shrews and mice and fucking a couple of monkeys in
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: the jungle, how long before you can get a city again?
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: How long before you can get a cell phone again?
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: How many millions of years does it take? And if
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: I was an intelligent life force that realized that this
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: is an error that can be corrected, I would probably
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: correct it. I'd probably put a stop to the nukes.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: I'd probably make a show of force, hover over military bases,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: shut down all of their electronics, shut down all that
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: just to let them know. Yeah. I would probably do that. But,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: you know, how much do they actually intervene and how
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: many of them are there? Are there different ones? I mean,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: if there's one that comes here, who's to say there's
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: not a shit ton of different kinds, some of them malevolent,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: some of them that only want us for Our biology,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: some of them that are just doing tests on us.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: Some of them that are, you know, kidnapping people and
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: erasing their memories and putting them back in the woods.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: Those stories are too common. There's too many stories that
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: are real fucking similar. Like the Travis Walton story. You
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: ever heard that one? Which is that one? It's a
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: guy who was a logger in the 1970s. It was
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: in Oregon. Was it Oregon?
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 6: Oregon.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, did they make a movie about this?
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: Fire in the Sky. I've seen it.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: Crazy story.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: Kind of like that. Do you know who is that?
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Chris Bledsoe?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: Have you heard of him?
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: What's that one?
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Chris Bledsoe. He's a guy that had an experience as well.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: You've not heard of Chris Bledsoe?
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe. I haven't or forgot. It's possible. Yeah.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing. His memory is kind
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: of gone and that's what it sounds like.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: They all have a very similar story. They get medical examinations.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: And there's girls that were pregnant and, you know, like
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: newly pregnant and got abducted and all of a sudden
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: they weren't pregnant anymore and they couldn't figure out what happened.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: There's quite a few of those. John Mack had this book.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: John Mack was a psychologist who was at Harvard who
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: wrote this book. I think it's called Abduction. And it's
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: all like him interviewing people that have had these kind
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: of experiences happen to them. And this is... This book
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: was in the 1990s, right? So there was, you know,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think these people got to share stories where
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: they could come up with the same story organically. Like today,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: you've heard so many stories online about UFO abductions or
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: crash retrieval or something that you could formulate in your
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: own mind a dream that seemed like these things that
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: you had heard over and over and over again. But
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: when you go back to like Betty and Barney Hill,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: which were one of the first people that ever got
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: abducted by aliens, they have the same sort of story
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: as all these different people that didn't know anything about
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: the phenomenon, didn't know anything about UFO abductions. And then
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden had one event in their life
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: that freaked them out for the rest of their life.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: And they take them through hypnotic progression. And these people
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: should hear the recordings of Betty and Barney Hill. They're
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: like yelling and screaming. They're freaking out like no one.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: thought about being abducted by aliens in the 1950s or
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: whenever that was. Yeah. But these people have this wild
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: fucking story that's super similar to all these different stories
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: that John Mack talks about. And maybe there's different kinds
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: of aliens. Maybe there's aliens that are just like our
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: scientists that just come down here and study and report
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: on like the state of the biological entity known as
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: the human beings. And visit and return. And maybe they
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: monitor us and watch us and make sure that we
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: don't do anything really fucking stupid. Like, give us enough
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: room to figure it out on our own. But don't
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: intervene unless they're about to nuke themselves. Interesting. That's best
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: case scenario. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what all this is, man. I just,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I try to dive into it on the
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: podcast and... I've talked to a handful of guys. I
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: don't know, man.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Some people are 100% like Billy Carson's all in. I
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: found out about him on your show, too.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd seen a couple of clips of him, but
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: I'd never seen a long-form interview of him until your show.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: That was a great episode. He's fun. He was on
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: my friend Andrew Schultz's podcast, and Andrew was like, we're
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: not going to check nothing. We're just going to let
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: him go. No fact checks. Let's just have fun and
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: see what happens. But when he starts talking about like
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: those ancient tablets, he's an expert in like the deciphering
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: of all those ancient tablets. And he's got a lot
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: of information on that. Those things are fascinating because it's
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: all the same stories even back then. These flying ships
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: and all these different depictions of things that came from
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: the sky and these giants and the Anunnaki and all
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: these different things that came from some other place that
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: had interaction with human beings.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of like mixes it with biblical stuff, right?
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: That's kind of, I don't know, that's what I lean
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: towards with all this stuff, to be honest with you,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: is maybe I think there's some consciousness aspect. I think there's,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: I think there's, I think it is the afterlife.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: It's possible, that's for sure. It's possible that whatever these
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: things are that come here, they're from some sort of
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: another dimension and that we just don't have the ability
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: to interact with that. We're limited in our, capacity as
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: a biological entity to interact with these dimensions that are
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: real but we just can't access them we can't get
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: to it we don't have the frequency we don't have
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: what it is but in some cases under duress under
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: some situations in some you know just like a person
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: can be hypnotized just like a person can go into
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: a trance I think there's a way every now and
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: then that people can kind of access these realms and
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: I think that's probably what some of these entities are.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: I think people are probably having real experiences with something
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: that probably is real, but that normally you cannot interact with.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: Did you, have you, uh, have you ever looked into,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: cause I think I kind of group all this stuff
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: in together, but, um, have you, have you looked into
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: the remote viewing stuff?
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. Yeah, dude. Yeah.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: That stuff.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: Pretty nuts.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: I had a remote, I did this show called Joe
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: Rogan questions, everything. And we had remote viewers on. We
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: tried to get them to do things. It wasn't really effective.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: But I'm also like, okay, this is an unnatural environment.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: It's a television show. It's like weird pressure. You know,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: skeptical people that are like looking at this. And I
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: don't know if they're the real... I think it's probably
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: a skill that can be developed. But I don't know
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: how consistent it is. You know, it's like... I don't
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: believe in psychics, but I do believe that sometimes you
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: just know things and sometimes you get a premonition and some,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: and I think the connection that people have with each
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: other is not as simple as like you call your
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: friend up. Hey, I haven't talked to you in forever.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: I think we're connected somehow quantumly. I think we're all
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: connected in some sort of a weird undiscovered way. And
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: that's why like you're thinking about someone and they call
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: you sometimes, you know, People say, oh, that's just a coincidence. Man,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know about all that. Because sometimes it's someone
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: I haven't talked to for fucking years. Yeah. And you'll
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: be having a conversation with a buddy, and you'll just
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: start thinking about that guy, and then all of a
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: sudden your phone rings.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: And it's him.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: Happens all the time, man.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: That's weird.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, what, they say we use 10% of our brain?
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: That's not real.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's real. You don't? No, no, no.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: What that was, they didn't really understand. When they were
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: saying that, they didn't really understand what the brain does
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: and what parts of the brain do. And they thought
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: that like we're only using 10%. No, it's like different
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: parts of the brain. have very different functions and under
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: different circumstances, different parts of the brain are activated. I
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: think just, we have a limited understanding of the actual
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: function of the brain, like the whole thing and how it's,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: how it's, how it's making chemicals and making psychedelic compounds and,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: And hormones and epinephrine and norepinephrine and all this different
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: dopamine and serotonin and how it regulates your system and
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: changes the way you interact with the world. It's all
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: weird stuff, man. I don't think they completely have, like
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: they can't recreate a human brain, you know? Yeah.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: You know, some of this, have you heard of Joe McMonagle?
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Dude, you have to talk to him.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: Who's he?
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: He is remote viewer number one for the U.S. But
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: he's not like kooky or anything like that at all.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: How do you not be kooky in your remote viewer?
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: Dude, you just have a conversation with him. He's there.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: No weird vibes, not from my end anyways. But the
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: way he, you know, I asked him, I'm like, well,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: how do you, like, how does it, How did it happen?
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: Do you think, does everybody have this? Or, you know,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: I was just pinging him with questions. And he said
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: he thinks we all have had it since the beginning.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: And that, I mean, he was basically saying, if you
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: look at how animals communicate, they kind of communicate telepathically.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: And he was talking about, you know, caveman times. you know,
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: used to point at shit and grunt and nod heads
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: and look at things and everybody would know what you're
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: thinking about. And he goes, and then we started traveling
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: in groups and then language was kind of born. And
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: he goes, language actually slowed down our initial form of communication,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: which was, you know, it wasn't maybe as descriptive, but
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: it was just as deliberate as, is speaking a language.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: And then you introduce technology, and basically what he was
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: kind of saying is, you know, that our brains have
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: been kind of dubbed down from, you know, thousands and
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: thousands of years of technology coming out and language and
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: all these other things.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want to lose the ability to. Exactly.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: We don't, I mean, you hear it all the time,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: you don't use it, you lose it.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: You know, and so basically what he's saying is we're
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: losing our instincts. I mean, that makes sense if you
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: don't use it. I mean, isn't that what the appendix is?
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: Isn't the appendix an organ that we no longer need
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: anymore because we cook food? Yeah, I don't know.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: What is the reason why the appendix is going away?
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. I think it's a
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: change in diet over time has made it unnecessary. So
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: it's like slowly being phased out of the human anatomy.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: And that's why it ruptures sometimes. But I don't think
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: it has a real function anymore. What it used to have. Oh,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: here it goes. The appendix is kind of helping us
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: in two ways, both with the gut. It helps fight
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: off invading pathogens. That's one thing that is true. When
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: they take out your appendix, like your immune system is
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: not as good. But also to repopulate the gut with
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: this beneficial bacteria after gastrointestinal issues. So what is– how
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: did the appendix form and why is the appendix like–
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: there's a thing that was– speculated about what the origin
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: of the appendix is and why we don't use it
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: the same way we used to. Why do humans have
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: an appendix? Worm-shaped. Modern researchers believe the appendix has many
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: key functions. Okay. Okay, here it is. Go to the top.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: Worm-shaped tube attached to the large intestine of the human body.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: It's an organ that is credited with very little significance
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: and often removed indiscriminately to avoid complications due to infection. However,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: modern researchers believe the appendix has many key functions in
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 2: the human body. and it protects the body's internal environment
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: from infection. What is the original origin of the appendix, though?
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: That was the thing that I had read. I think
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: it was something about processing fiber. Vestigial, okay. Support the
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: theory that the appendix is a vestigial origin that was
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: once used by our herbivorous ancestors. This is it. It
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: was found that in herbivorous vertebrates, the appendix is comparatively larger,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: and it helped in the digestion of tuft tough herbivorous
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: foods such as bark of a tree so the thing
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: is like we're changing right we don't eat like that
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: anymore so it's changing and it's it's it's function changes
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: and it makes sense that if we don't use the
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: mind the same way our ancestors did before language we
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: would probably lose this connection that animals do seem to
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: have with each other.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah i mean you know there's all kinds of i
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: mean if you've heard of people have you heard of
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: people kind of How do I describe this? Me and
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: my wife were just having this conversation the other day.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: If you heard of people that kind of, they start
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: preparing for their death, but they're not realizing they're preparing
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: for their death.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have heard of that.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: It's like an intuition that they're unaware that they're going
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: to die. And so they start preparing everything for their
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: departure and not even realizing that they're going to.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: Pass yeah i have heard about that.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: You know i mean i think that's just another example
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: of i think that we have lost a lot of
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: intuitions and and and we don't really know how to
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: go back and exercise them that's that's kind of what
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: i think i think it.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: Makes sense i think technology certainly distracts human beings from
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: human interactions and kids today are growing up more socially
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: unbalanced and more their progress is retarded. There's something about
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: the use of technology that is certainly it's limiting kids'
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: abilities to interact with each other person to person. And
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: over time, that's probably going to be the norm. And
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to think about the rise of spectrum
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: disorders and and lack of emotional connectivity and empathy that
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: people have that, that seem to have those, especially like
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: on the far ends of the spectrum. And then accentuate
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: that with like added technology, constant technology. Each technology is
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: more and more invasive. The population of people that have
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: these problems, it's like, it's almost like we're moving towards
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: becoming a different kind of person. Yep.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: You know, my, um, um, This person that works for
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: me turned me on to this podcast the other day
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: and it was talking about how, this is unverified, but
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: it was still a fascinating conversation. They were talking about
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: how in, I can't remember the amount of years, but
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: humans will begin to lose their peripheral vision because they're
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: looking at a phone so much that we're evolving. I
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: guess you could, I don't know if I would call
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: that evolving. Yeah, devolving.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: Wow. That makes sense. It does, right? Totally makes sense.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, shit, go anywhere. That's what everybody's doing.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: Narrow band of focus. Yep. If you look at most
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: people's phone usage, what's the average person's phone usage? I
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: bet screen time's like four hours average.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: I'll bet it's more than that.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, but let's say it's just four. Yeah. That's a
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: giant chunk of your day.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's, I mean- If you're up for 12 hours,
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: it's 25% of the day.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: So if 25% of the day, you're just looking like this,
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: that's got to have an ultimate effect on your vision. Damn.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: Especially over time. And especially if this becomes like completely
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: normal for a thousand years. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a thousand years, man. It was like, I mean, I,
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: it was way, it was within our lifetime.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: Just makes sense.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: That would happen.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: But we're an adaptive organism. We adapt, you know? weirdly
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: it's it's uh.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: This stuff all just scares the hell out of me
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: i mean i think psychedelics plays a role in all
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: this you know and and accessing you know other information.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah i think so too i think it's a giant
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 2: crime that stuff that stuff's illegal it's limited and it's
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: limited into like you know right now they're doing some
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: research on it and you know the fda was gonna
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: approve mdma therapy for benefits uh for uh veterans rather
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: dealing with ptsd and they they stopped it and they
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: they decided more tests need to be done meanwhile you're
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: seeing like real results from people life-changing results and there's
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of people out there that need help and
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: they should be doing something and it's not hurting anybody.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: Dude do you want to hear the the best story
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: i've ever heard from sure so i got a i
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: got One of my best friends, former Green Beret, worked
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: with him at the agency for a long time. He
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: was blown up, survived like the worst fucking car bomb
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Like got up, walked away, dude's head's
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: like right next to the car. Then gets out. I
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: don't want to mention his name because I'm going to
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: bring up some symptoms. But then he got fucking shot
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: in the head by a. 38 Special round. in the
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: middle of the road and survived it. And I've stayed
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: with him through this whole process. when anyways, couldn't walk
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: without a cane was bedridden five, six days out of
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: every week. Hadn't had sex with his wife in over
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: two fucking years. Couldn't go outside without sunglasses on because, uh,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: because of the light sensitivity. And I'd been telling him, Hey, Dude,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: you have to go down and do this Ibogaine thing.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: Nothing else is working. I think this shit's going to change.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even aware of all this stuff. I knew
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: about the bedridden stuff, but he was hiding a lot
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: of that shit from me. And his wife got and
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: called me. And so I got him piped in to
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: this program, went down, did Ibogaine, and did 5-MeO. left
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: his fucking cane there, went home, banged his wife, doesn't
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: need the sunglasses anymore, and is not bedridden. And that
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: was about six months ago, and I just talked to
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: him the other day. He's still, like, good to go.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: And, dude, this shit happened, like, when did he, I
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: bet it was four years. Four years of, like, living
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: through that shit. I mean, cracked skull.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: One Ibogaine treatment.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: One Ibogaine treatment, done. I was like, do you think
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: you'll go back and see if more benefits show up?
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: And he was like, no, I'm not going to do it.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: But he's like, not unless I start to slip. But
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: he's like, I'm good. I'm at peace. I feel fucking great.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: That's incredible. Imagine if there was a drug that could
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: do that. There is. But imagine if there was a
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: drug that the pharmaceutical drug companies could sell that could
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: do that. There would be treatment centers everywhere. Are you
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: suffering from PTSD? We can cure you.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: Here at Ibogenesis, and then you go into that place
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: and you get hooked up, it'll be just like fucking
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: these GLP-1s that they're trying to get people to lose weight.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: It'd be everywhere. Yeah. Everybody would, everyone has stress. Everyone
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: has trauma. Come on in. Yep. And they'd just be
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: selling it.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: And, I mean, even mine, like, I haven't, I haven't
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: drank in almost three years now.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just, I went down and did the, Ibogaine
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: experience and like, it was just like, have you done Ibogaine?
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 2: What was good about it? Tell me what it was like. Well,
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: for me, it's very effective for people with addiction.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there it is right there.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: I kind of drank it almost three years, but, um,
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was like, do you want like the
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: whole experience?
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: Um, yeah. So I went down to, went down to
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: Mexico and, And I just kept having these guys come
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: on my show, and the first one was Eddie Gallagher.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: He was talking about psychedelics, and I was like, oh, no,
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: that shit's for hippies. I'm not fucking with that. And then,
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: you know, the one that really got me was I
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: had this guy on, his name, DJ Shipley, and.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: He, like— I saw that one.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: You saw that one?
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: Dude, DJ's a fucking beast, bro.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I follow that guy on Instagram now. Holy shit.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: Like takes Davey seal to a whole different level. But anyways,
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: but yeah, he like went out of his way after the, after, uh,
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: we recorded and he was like, Hey dude, like you
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: should really fucking think about going down there. And, um,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, you know, I've done
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: all the, I've done like a ton of research. I've
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: talked to a bunch of guys about it. I understand
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: like how it works now.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 5: Fuck it.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: I'll go.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: And so I went down there because I just wanted
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: to be more in the moment with my family. I
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: got two little kids now. And so I went down
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: there and that was like, I felt like I was
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: kind of like through the PTSD type stuff and maybe not,
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: but I just wanted to get rid of anxiety and
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: be in the moment with my family and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: And so I went down and Did the Ibogaine thing,
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: and we took these pills, and, like, I didn't get
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of visuals, but the first visual I got
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: was I was just sitting there, like, looking in this mirror,
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: shaking this fucking maraca, and my head's, like, I was like,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: all right, this shit is not working. Well, then my head, like, it, like,
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: split open, like a.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: In the mirror? Yeah, dude.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: It was like I watched my head like peel like
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: a fucking banana. Like it was just like whoosh. And
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: then another head like just blossomed out of it.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really odd. And then I was like,
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: all right, it's definitely fucking kicking in. So I'm going
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: to lay back and– And it was kind of, to me,
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: like the whole experience maybe, I guess I just lost
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: total concept of time. It didn't feel, it was like
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: 12 hours, but it didn't feel like 12 hours. It
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: didn't really feel like five minutes either. But I got
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: like this life review kind of thing. I just had
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: these TV screens. It looked like all black. like you're
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: in space or something. And then these two lines of
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: TV screens that were going in my peripheral vision and
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: what was playing in those TV screens was, and it
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: was moving like it kind of a slow pace. And
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: so like I could see what was going on in
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: the TV screens through my peripheral. But if I tried
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: to concentrate on any one particular thing, then they would
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: like all just disappear until I, until I stopped trying to,
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: like concentrate on one thing and then they'd all appear again.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: And I could like look at it through my peripheral
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: and I'd be like, oh, you know, that was in Baghdad.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: That's when I was five years old and my dad
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: was like yelling at me and that was this. And
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: it was like, but it wasn't like, I wasn't like
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: reliving traumatic events. It was just like passing me by.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: Like recordings.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: Like an old VHS tape. Yeah.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: And so I just let them like pass. And then
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: I went into some other stage, which I don't really understand,
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: but it was a bunch of like these walls of
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: stuffed animals. And I was kind of like going through
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: this maze. And then like the last thing I talked
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: about before I did the experience was China. So then
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: I had like this horrible thing about the Chinese invasion.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: But what came out of that, like, it's like, oh, well,
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: that doesn't sound very good. Well, yeah, what came out
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: of that, I lost 11 pounds in literally one week.
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: It's a week-long type of experience. I lost 11 fucking pounds.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: It's also a heavy metals detoxer, by the way, so
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: that's probably, probably had, like, some heavy metals blocking me
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: up or something. But the whites of my eyes, like,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: cleared up. Like, and it wasn't just me. I, like,
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 1: journaled all this shit down. And then I didn't tell
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: my wife any of this stuff. And I came home
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: and she's like, your eyes look, like, a lot lighter. Like,
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: the whites look a lot lighter, whiter. And my brown
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: eyes looked like they had lightened up.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 1: And then it was also, like, I had realized... Everything
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: that I was ingesting that was poison. It was like this,
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: going back to intuition, it was like this intuition of,
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: like I just, I was like, you know, I didn't come,
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't go down there to quit drinking. You know,
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: I just, it just fucking happened, man. Like I was
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't think I'm going to drink anymore.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: So I haven't had a drink in, like I said,
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: just under three years.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 2: Do you think you had a drinking problem?
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, fuck yeah, man. I had a drinking problem. big
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: drinking problem.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: Um, but, but you didn't think it at the time.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I, my drinking problem had, had digressed, uh, quite
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: a bit. So, I mean, I used to, I.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: Used to.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: Drink close to two fifths of vodka a day.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: And, um, but you know, then And that was coming
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: out of the agency. I didn't have anything to do, really. And,
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I was processing a lot of kind of
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: what had happened over the past 14 years. I didn't
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: have any friends, was severely depressed, whatever, man. Loved to party,
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and that just, it was wake up, drink
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: many bottles of vodka all day long, and then at night,
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I'd crack a fifth. But by the time
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: I went there, it was like probably two bottles of
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: wine instead of two bottles of vodka a night.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: Still.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: Holy shit.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of wine.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's, yeah, it is. But anyways, came
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: back and I just didn't want the wine anymore. I
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: used to. take Adderall. I was addicted to that. Didn't
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: need that. Didn't need this Ambien anymore. Didn't need anything.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: Cold turkey.
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: Cold turkey, man.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 2: Weed.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: Quit weed for about six months, and then....
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then I went back. But and even sugar, man,
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: I quit sugar for about six months. And it was
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: you know, the funny thing is, man, like it was
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: zero effort. It wasn't like I'm not fucking drinking and
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do sugar and I'm not going
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: to smoke weed and no more Adderall. I just didn't
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: want it. And there was no there was just no urge.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: There was no addiction left. It was gone.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: Wow. That's the thing they say about Ibogaine, that it
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: uniquely rewires your brain.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 2: And there's some sort of a scientific understanding of how
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: it works. But the fact that it's illegal in this
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 2: country is bananas. Yeah. I mean, how many people are
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 2: suffering through opioid addiction? It's an enormous number. And if
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: there was a thing that we are aware of that
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: could help all of our citizens that are struggling right now,
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: listening to this, if people are struggling. And there's a thing.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: And it's illegal in this country. Yep. As far as
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 2: I know, I don't think people are dying from Ibogaine.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 2: You know, Ibogaine was, it was very funny that Hunter
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: chose this, but Hunter S. Thompson used that during, was
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 2: it the McGovern, the McGovern elections? It was like 72,
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: whatever it was. And when he wrote Fear and Loathing
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: on the campaign trail, So he created a rumor that
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 2: Ed Muskie, who was one of the candidates, had a
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: severe Ibogaine addiction and that Brazilian scientists were coming to
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: visit him and give him this treatment. And it became
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: such a rumor and it spread so far that it
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: started affecting him. And he was giving campaign speeches and
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 2: he was denying it. He was all sweating and he
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: looked like a maniac. And Hunter essentially derailed this guy's campaign.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: By saying that he was addicted to Ibogaine, of all things.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: I think Ibogaine would be impossible to be addicted to.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: See if you can find Hunter on the Dick Cavett
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: Show where he admits that he started the rumor. It's
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 2: very funny.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: I fucking loved that dude. God, I wish I met him. Yeah,
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: me too. He was a fucking maniac.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: That would have been wild.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: But the fact that he used Ibogaine was really funny
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: and ironic because that's the thing that gets you to
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: quit addictions.
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's not a fun experience, man.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of poking.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 5: I couldn't believe people really believed that Muskie was eating
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 5: evil game.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: I never said he was.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 5: I said there was a.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 2: Rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. And
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: I started the rumor in Milwaukee. Oh, shit. That guy,
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: he fucked everybody up because he would do actual journalism
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: mixed in with fiction. Yeah. you know, he called it
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 2: gonzo journalism. He essentially started a new kind of journalism.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: It's like you, you, there was a, an understanding that
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: some of this was not real and you had to
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 2: kind of like figure out what was real and what
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't real. And he was just going to do it
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: his way.
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: He was a cool dude, man.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: He was a cool dude.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: That would have been a hell of an interview.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Yeah. But the fact that he chose
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 2: Ibogaine is kind of funny.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: Cause they say it's like the one that you will,
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: You can't get addicted to them. Honestly, I don't think
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: I could get addicted to any of them.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so either. I've heard of people
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: that get addicted to certain psychedelics, but I think there's
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: people that do psychedelics to learn more about themselves, and
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: I think there's people that do it to escape. And
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 2: I think they escape reality with it, and then they
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 2: get used to escaping, and then they choose that as
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: their reality, and they do it way too much. I
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 2: think there's abuse with everything. I think you can certainly
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: abuse at least some psychedelics. But the benefits of them
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 2: far outweigh the negatives, and there's a lot of people
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: that are hurting in this country, and they should have
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: access to all the different things that could help them. Yeah.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: And the fact that you have to go to Mexico
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: to do that.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, man. I mean, it's fucking working. Yeah. I mean,
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: it's working, and it's just, like, why?
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: Why? Why can't you, like, let us? I'm speaking for
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: the veteran population right now, but why can't you just
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: let us fucking get better? Everybody knows the 22 a day,
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: which is actually like 40-something a day, veterans that are
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 1: killing themselves, and this shit is a fucking game changer.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: But I don't think big pharma is going to allow it.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: I think that's what the holdup is.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe that's something that RFK Jr. can help if
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: they get in the office. If they get into office.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, but when you hear about the five kill
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 2: teams and you hear about all this different shit that's
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: going on. I mean, October hasn't even started yet. You
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 2: get a full month of October and who knows what
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 2: the fuck can happen. Yeah. Leading up to the elections. Yeah.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to let up.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Whoever they are. And not only that,
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: but forget about the organization. Forget about that there are
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: people out there, probably like Iran and maybe state actors
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: or who knows, that's trying to kill Trump. What about
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: the fucking general kooks that have been buying all this
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: rhetoric every day that he's a threat to democracy and
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: they think that this is the one thing that can
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: give them meaning in their life, the one great act
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 2: that they can accomplish to go out and kill Trump?
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's... I don't know, man. I mean, it's,
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 1: there's just, there's so much that goes into this, like
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: that first shooter, right? What was he, 20 years old?
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: You know, 20 years old, then you got, you know,
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 1: Trump's basically been in the media for what, about eight years?
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: I think he showed up, what, about a year before
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: the 2016 election, right? Kind of went in. So we're
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: going on, what, eight years now of the media just
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: slamming him over and over. He's a threat to democracy.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: This is going to ruin the country. You know, so
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: if you take that 20 year old, I mean, so he's,
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 1: since he was 12 years old, that's all he's heard.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 1: 12 fucking years old. That's all he's heard.
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 2: And little kids have no ability to discern.
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 1: So is it, is it a very well orchestrated act
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: to kill him? Or is it, is it, media manipulation
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: that nobody really thought too far into this. And now
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: it's all, now we're seeing the consequences, you know, of, of,
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: of what that kind of pushing an agenda like that
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 1: will do.
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: It's probably both things, you know, it's probably both things.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: It's probably all the above. And the fact that 24%
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: of Americans think or polled, obviously polled because those are
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 2: the dumbest motherfuckers of all time. Anyway, people that answer polls,
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: you always have to think of that, you know, Like
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 2: 99% of people don't answer polls. So out of that 1%,
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: 24% of those retards are dumb enough to think that
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: it's a good idea to shoot Trump and that the
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: American people shouldn't be able to decide on their own.
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: That's what's really crazy. They think they're right and you're wrong.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: And no matter what, they have to stop you from
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: getting your vote. They have to stop you from voting
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 2: in the direction that you are thinking you are going
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 2: to vote for. It's just a scary time. Scary time
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 2: for the Republic. It really is. Yes, it is. Like,
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: weirdly scary. And also, like, weirdly chaotic in the sense
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 2: that this is all happening at the same time as
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: the rise of podcasts and social media and new ways
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: to get information. So more people are aware of how
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: fuck we are now than, like, during the Vietnam War. Yeah. Like,
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: people were against the Vietnam War and, you know, they're
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: against fighting the troops in the Vietnam War, but they
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 2: didn't really know what was going on. They didn't have
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: like full access to it like we have now. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know where this ends, man. I mean, part
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: of me thinks, you know, it's just, it's part of
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: me thinks we're just going to end in a, some
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: type of a civil war.
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: That's terrifying. Yeah.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, that seems like, it seems like it's definitely
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: being pushed in that direction.
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're kind of already there. It's
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: just going to look a lot different.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: It's a cold war, right?
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: You know, you see these states banding together. You know,
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 1: you see blue states banding together. You see bright states
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: banding together. You see, you know, a lot of governors aligning,
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: sending National Guard down here to Texas, you know, to
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 1: try to secure the border. You got, you know, these extreme, look,
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 1: I don't, whether, whether you agree with me or not,
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: they are, they're extreme. And so, you know, like, like
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: the abortion stuff, like you got States that are, are
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 1: making these like super harsh abortion laws. Like we're going
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: to hunt you down if you get one and throw
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: your ass in prison. And, um, I think it, uh,
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 1: I can't remember how many States now have passed constitutional
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 1: carry is like 20. I can't remember. It's, I think
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 1: there's only like a state or two left that need
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 1: constitutional carry, but I mean, I think basically what I'm
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: getting at is I think the lines are kind of
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: like being drawn right now or the alliances are kind
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: of forming up like, hey, let's pass these. super, super
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: red laws, these super left law or blue laws. And
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: it'll drive everybody out of the state that we want.
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 3: And it'll.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm getting?
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 2: I do know.
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I think this is all like kind of
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: happening naturally. Yeah.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the solution to any of this
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 2: stuff is. I hope it's a greater understanding that we
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: develop over time where we figure out how to communicate
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 2: better and work together. And I think some of that
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: can be facilitated through AI if it's done correctly, if
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 2: it's like a real open source AI where people can
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 2: get a real better understanding of the actual mechanisms. Instead
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: of like whatever beliefs you have and why the system
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 2: works the way it is, if you could just have
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: it laid out, factually laid out, Where there can be
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: no shenanigans. You can't deny it.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think one way would just be having
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: podcasters and journalists. I mean, how the fuck would you
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: do this? But, you know, one thing on, like on
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: my show, and I kind of went off the rails
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit the last month. I got a little
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: probably more political than I want. I was, I hate politics, man.
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the kind of.
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: They come up all the time.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: It's the fate of the country.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 2: You think I like them.
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, every time I dive in, I feel like.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 2: I.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: Feel like I fucked a hooker on a rusty couch.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's like, I don't think
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: this shit's going to wash off me now.
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 2: But.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about?
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: I do, I do, I do.
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: But anyways, where I was going is I... people have
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: just lost the fucking ability to think for themselves. Like
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: they can't critical think anymore. And, you know, so like
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: one thing that I do on mine is if I
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: bring somebody on, that's I'm like, don't say Trump 500
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: times on my show. Let's not say like, fuck the left,
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: fuck the right. Like, let's not say these fucking Democrats
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 1: and these fucking Republicans, like just don't, just give me
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: the policy, just give me the problem. Just like, let's
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: just leave all that shit out. Because if you leave
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: all that, all those adjectives out, then it forces people
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: to go, well, shit, I don't really know. It forces
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: them to formulate their own opinion because they don't know
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: what their side thinks about that particular issue. Unless you're
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: talking about abortion or something like that. But you know
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 1: what I mean? If you leave that out of, if
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: you can leave those adjectives out Then I think common
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 1: sense will start to make a comeback because it won't
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: be so tribal. It will be like, well, actually, I
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 1: don't really I don't I don't know where the party
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: that I align with stands on this. So I'm going
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: to have to formulate my own fucking opinion here. And man,
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 1: that would do wonders.
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: We definitely need more people that are willing to do that, too,
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: because some people just don't have the time or the interest.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 2: To form their own opinions on things.
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: It's so much easier to just agree with whatever their
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: side believes.
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: How did you get started in doing a podcast? Like,
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: what was the motivation behind it? Ooh.
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I used to teach weapons and tactics. And I
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: taught Keanu Reeves for John Wick 3. And then I
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: got a lot of hate. I'll just put it that way.
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of hate from the... from the
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: special operations community, from the two way community. And, um,
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, man, like it's
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 1: very egocentric community anyways. And so I was like, I'm,
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like fucking done with this shit. And, uh, so
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: I just started, dude, I didn't know what to do.
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: I was like doing camping stove reviews and I bought
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: a bunch of fucking alpacas and put them in my
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 1: front yard. And I thought I was going to be
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: a farmer and like, yeah. But you know what I did?
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I'm so fucking tired of my
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: guys killing themselves and going into depression and suicide attempts.
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 1: And I got sick of the same talking heads on
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: TV kind of documenting what was going on over there.
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 1: It was a bunch of people who had never even
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: stepped foot. in any of those war zones documenting what
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 1: happened over there. So, um, so I, I just started
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: and I'd built like, I don't know, maybe 250,000 subs
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: on YouTube, uh, from like gun stuff. And, uh, so
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: I started, I was like, I got to, one, we
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: got to document the history too. There's a major fucking
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 1: suicide epidemic happening. So let's talk about some guys that had,
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: had attempted, I mean, I tried to kill myself, but
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: let's get some guys that have really been through it,
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: dug themselves out of it. So we're documenting history the
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: way it happened. We are talking about the veteran crisis
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 1: that's going on and how people got out of it.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: And then at the end of every episode was, hey,
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 1: let's talk about your business, because it's stories what sell.
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 1: So let's do the whole story and get everybody super
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: attached to you. Let's document the history, talk about your vulnerabilities,
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 1: what it was like re-transitioning back into civilian life, how
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 1: fucked up it was, how you ruined your family, how
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: you tried to kill yourself, all that shit, how you
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: came out of it, and then let's talk about your business.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: And so... I mean, these guys would come on and and,
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: you know, their business would like jet launch overnight, which
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. But in that I just did,
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: I just like doing it. I liked fucking helping people.
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: And and but I'll tell you. Like I started, it
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: was awesome. I loved it. I still there's nothing else
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 1: I'd rather do. I started, I started feeling a lot
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: of resentment, um, to my guests because they would come
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: on my show and then they would like pass me
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: up business wise like that. And I was like, fuck man.
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: Like what, what the fuck do I have to do
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 1: to make a business out of this shit? Like I'm
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 1: great at like jet launching everybody else's shit, but I'm
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: not making any fucking money here. And I got a
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 1: family to support and, this isn't gonna work out and
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: then I don't know what happened man but then something
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: just like switched like God just stepped in and was
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: like you're doing good shit like I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: bless you and and I just like hit a turning
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 1: point and um now I just talk to whoever I'm
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: interested in.
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: But but well you're doing a great show and I
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: think that's all it takes Thank you. You do a
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: great show. And then the beautiful thing about social media
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: and YouTube and all these different things is that people
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: could just share it. Like I've had a few people,
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 2: I think Billy Carson, I think somebody sent me that one. And,
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just like someone would say, hey, you
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 2: should check this out, you know, and just send you
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: a text message. That's such a massive advantage of YouTube
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: and Spotify and a lot of these apps is that
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 2: someone could just send you a show. Like you would
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: really love the show. Check it out. And then you
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: just click it. And then all of a sudden it's playing.
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: You know, and I play it in my car. I
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: play it in the sauna. And I'm listening to this.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 2: And it's a complete new thing that's available anytime you want.
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 2: You can pause it. I know it's you. One of
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 2: the things I like about your show is I can
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 2: 100% tell this is just you talking to these guys like,
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: what did you do? Okay, explain that to me. Like,
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: it's just you. And In this world of talking heads,
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: that has become a very refreshing alternative to a lot
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 2: of people. And if you do a good show like yours,
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 2: it just grows. It's just people will find it. You know,
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: people share it and it just organically grows.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for checking it out.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, my pleasure.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: Why did you start yours?
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 2: I started just on a laptop answering questions like with
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine, my friend Brian, who I started with.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 2: We were just fucking around. We thought it'd be fun
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: to just do for fun. You know, I always wanted
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 2: to do a radio show, but I thought no one's
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 2: ever going to give me a radio show. You know,
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: when I was touring, doing clubs back in the day
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 2: where you would have to do morning radio, I would
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 2: like to do it. I would like, because I have
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 2: these crazy things that I'm interested in, crazy stories. So
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 2: I'd come in, do these morning radio shows, and I'd
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 2: be like, wow, what a great job that would be,
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 2: morning radio game. Yeah, I'd fuck up and swear that
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: wouldn't work. And then the rise of podcasts happened. And,
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 2: you know, Adam Carolla had one. And, you know, there's
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: a bunch of other ones. And then Opie and Anthony,
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: Anthony Cumia from Opie and Anthony started doing his own
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 2: show called Live from the Compound, where he's doing like karaoke,
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 2: holding a machine gun. And he's out of his fucking mind.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 2: He built a television studio in his basement. And I
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 2: was like, fuck, he can do that and do that online.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: Like I need to start doing something. So we started
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 2: out just doing this little. Oh, and also the Tom
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 2: Green show. Tom Green had his own like Internet talk show.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: And I was a guest on it long before my podcast.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, you just got to figure out how
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 2: to make money out of this. Like you look, you
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: could see the, the, the seeds of my podcast being
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 2: planted while I was on his show. I was like,
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 2: this is amazing. No executives, no one talking to you that.
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 2: And then I actually even was in talks with the
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: company that was doing it with him to do my
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 2: own thing with them. but I just decided to do
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: it on my own. I'm like, I don't do nothing
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 2: with nobody. I wanted it to just be 100% me
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 2: just fucking around. And in the beginning, all my friends
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 2: were like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, why
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 2: are you wasting your time? They'd come over my house
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 2: and my kids were really young at the time. So
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 2: like in the early days, like you would hear, we
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 2: were in one of my spare bedrooms with a desk
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 2: set up and you'd hear mommy, she took my thing.
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 2: The kids are arguing with each other. Um, so it was,
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 2: you know, From that, move into like a little studio.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 2: We rented a little office space somewhere and then moved
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 2: into a warehouse and got a real studio and then
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 2: started having security there. And then started, well, I should
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: have a fucking gym here. Let's put a gym in
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 2: and started, you know, bringing guys to train with. And
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 2: then it just got big. All organic. I never did
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 2: ads for it. I never did put a billboard up.
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 2: I never went on other people's podcasts and said, please
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 2: watch my podcast. Never did any of that. Never promoted it.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 2: It just grew. That's awesome. All, but it's all the
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 2: same reason why yours is growing. It's just, I talk
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 2: to whoever I want to talk to. Yeah. You know,
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 2: I watched your show a bunch of times, reached out
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 2: to you on Instagram. What's up?
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 2: But the way you do it and the way I
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 2: do it is I think that's why it's interesting.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 2: Because I can tell, like, when you're talking to that
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: guy that was talking about the direct energy weapons in Antarctica,
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: all that crazy shit, like, you wanted to hear what
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 2: the guy had to say.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, this is why he was on there.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 2: You know, this isn't like some producer has told you
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 2: the list of guests that you're going to have for
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: the week, and you're not really interested in it, and
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: you've got to interview some fucking kid in a boy band.
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: I can't do it.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. There's no reason to do it. Yeah,
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: you know, when I started, I was.
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 1: But we started in the attic. It was me and
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 1: my wife. We had these shit cameras that had like
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: 30 minute timers. So I was, Mike Glover was my first, uh, guest.
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 1: And so my wife was like running back and forth,
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 1: resetting these 30 minute fucking timer cameras. And I'm trying
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: to run the sound and listen to what the hell
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 1: Mike's saying. And I'm like, this is fucking awesome.
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 2: We're going to do.
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: This for a long time.
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 2: What year did you start?
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 1: I started first one, got pumped out, uh, Christmas of 2019.
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 2: Well, that's also a great example because a lot of
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 2: people want to say that the podcast market is too
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 2: saturated now. I've heard people say that, oh, it's too
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 2: hard to make it in the podcast market. I'm like,
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that.
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I think if you've got a
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 2: good show, it's going to rise.
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: Same here.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 2: And that's you.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Well, I studied the hell out
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 1: of your show when I was doing it. And, you know,
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, I just wanted to, make it different
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to copy the the red curtain and you.
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean and you made it yours yeah
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: you really did and it's uh that's the great thing
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 2: about this and we need more voices like yours out
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 2: there more different people that are doing the same kind
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 2: of thing you know following their own interests talking to
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 2: people honestly having these long-term long-form podcasts like the the
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 2: one with the guy studying the UFOs I think that's
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 2: like four and a half hours long right which one
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 2: Is it, what's his name, John Alexander? Yeah.
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: I did one that was like nine hours.
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, John Alexander. This one is, how long is this one?
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: Let me check. What does it say? Resume.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: Six hours on YouTube.
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 2: Six hours. Yeah. Yeah. It's six hours in a couple
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 2: of minutes. Yeah. Of you talking to this guy about
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 2: paranormal programs in the government. I don't want to let
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 2: him go. No. It was amazing. It's crazy stuff, man.
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, Sean, it was great to meet you. I
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 2: really appreciate you. I appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 2: how you do it. And it's good to become friends.
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for having me, Joe.
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 2: My pleasure. It's good to be here. All right. Bye, everybody. Oh,
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 2: watch the show. Sean Ryan Show. It's on everything, right?
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 2: All right. Cheers. All right. Bye, everybody.