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I Got Expert Advice On Aspergers Relationships (YOU NEED TO WATCH) · Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD

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  I really want a partner. I really want a partner and
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  they've watched a lot of you there, like romantic comedies
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  are anime, and when they go to try to like impose that on real
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  life, it doesn't fit, right? Because it is made up.
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  Hey guys. So today I'm interviewing I have
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  guests over to lie on these podcast shows these Saturday
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  lives. I'm really enjoying these
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  actually. So yeah give a thumbs up.
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  If you're enjoying this type of kind of podcast episodes, I'm
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  doing the really fun and I get to have awesome people on like
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  dr. Ali and so, this is dr.
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  This is my friend. We've known each other for a
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  little while now. Maybe like I don't know six or
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  six months or so maybe I think some and and your she's super
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  awesome. So so a lead want to kind of
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  explain who you are and what you do and then we'll get into some
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  questions. Yeah, so I'm Ali.
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  And I am a speech therapist and a behavior analyst, and then I
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  use both of those things. And I went and got my doctorate,
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  and I looked at the intricacies of dating on the autism
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  spectrum. And when I did that, I really
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  looked, I interviewed a bunch of people on the Spectrum about
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  what was hard. And then I also journaled as a
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  therapist on what like I thought, people were going to
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  say. But that there was a little bit
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  of a mismatch was really helpful for me, as a therapist to say,
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  oh, Just because I think something is hard doesn't mean
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  the person that I'm working with actually wants to work on this.
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  So now I have a private practice where I see Teenage Kids.
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  We play a lot of Minecraft, we do a lot of social skills,
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  social communication and then adults who are interested in
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  just forming more relationships, either romantic business,
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  friendship, just sort of those higher-level social skills.
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  That's so sick. And this is one of the things
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  that really kind of. I wanted you on my My channel
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  and my podcast because I was like, whoa, there's somebody
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  who's got a PhD in literature relationships in autism.
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  I mean, this is one of the most sought-after questions.
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  So like I have people all the time saying, you know I asked
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  Bridges and dating also has been dating like you know, does this
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  work is so basically you know is that okay?
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  Let me persuade. What's the what's the kind of
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  percentage? Would you say of people who are
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  not in relationships, but want to be in relationships on the
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  Spectrum. So you say it's like a quite a
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  lot of sense. Georgie sets a high percentage.
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  Want to be. Oh hi.
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  Very high. My focus group for research I
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  think was like 60 people. And there were two that didn't
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  want to be in a relationship but just at the moment because they
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  felt like they too many responsibilities like not that
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  it wasn't something they want it long term so yes very high, a
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  super interesting, what would you say the most, the most
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  common issue that autistic people have with relationships?
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  Like when they come to you and they say like you know, I want A
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  date men and women, whatever. And I have this issue, what's
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  the biggest boundary? That they can see with some of
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  them who have been in a relationship, unfortunately,
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  I've gotten like burnt or taking advantage of taken advantage of.
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  So there's that, I would also say the fear of rejection really
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  comes in heavy and then also, there's, there's this mismatch
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  of kind of like reality and expectation.
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  So a lot of people grow up being like, I really Partner really
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  want a partner, and they've watched a lot of either, like
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  romantic comedies are anime. And when they go to try to like
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  impose that on real life, it doesn't fit, right?
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  Because it, it is made up. So that kind of like how do I
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  even do this? What am I supposed to do?
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  What are the rules? Sure.
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  Sugar that is a very interesting concept because like there is
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  no, there is no rules of relationships.
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  There are basically that it's a it's a partnership that grows
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  and learns as As you go, you know.
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  So you, you know, each other, you know, briefly and then you
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  can enter relationship and then that relationship grows and you
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  learn more about each other. And then, you know, can either
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  blossom into something more romantic or it can just stay as
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  a friendship relationship. And I think it's, it's one of
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  the most difficult Parts. Like, you hit the nail on the
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  head there saying that, like, you know, you see something on
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  TV or in a comic and you aren't you kind of absorb that which is
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  why my accent is almost America. It's kind of a little bit
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  british-american because like, I learn A lot of my lexicon and
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  vocabulary from TV and a lot of TV's American, right?
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  So and a lot of how we behave in a day-to-day life, especially
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  growing up. When I was a lot younger, I took
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  a lot of my characteristics of behaviors because didn't know
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  how to behave in front of people from from movies like Star Wars
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  and stuff. So it's just like on the
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  console. Those kind of persona do all
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  kind of stuff people. Like one is going on.
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  I remember trying to joke with with, with the kids in school.
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  And I was really a big fan of Betelgeuse and I love people.
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  You. So I kind of just thought.
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  Well, people are laughing at this part of Betelgeuse, I'll
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  just do this the same from Italy.
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  Some people say that one. It's you.
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  Do you know that? No, I also got.
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  How does this not work? And so it's really funny that
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  you, yeah, people are kind of adopt a script and and see it as
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  a scenario. Like, oh, this is, this is how
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  it should be. But in reality, it should be
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  something like they create themselves.
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  So, how do you how do you combat that?
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  Like, what you say to them when they when they like, as okay?
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  I know it's a very difficult topic and this your Forte and
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  here you spent years talking to these people.
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  But you know, what's the typical process of trying to Help some
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  of the situation. Well, the first thing you said
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  about relationships, right in wanting rules.
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  So, I've been trying to write a rule book, but because a person
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  on the spectrum is plain brain is typically black and white
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  right. Relationships are so great
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  because it's dependent. It's probably flowing, right?
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  Right. I'll go to radar Rule, and then
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  I realize, I have like eight caveat so underneath so I'm
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  like, is this even a rule at this point?
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  I'm kind of, you know, there's some basic ones, but it's hard
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  and then the The helping to move past movie.
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  So I do a lot of normalizing when I work with people.
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  I am now happily engaged, but I did it for a long time and it
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  was awful. So, I do a lot of like it's
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  dating in reality can be kind of difficult people, you know, not
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  just on the Spectrum get rejected on apps and not to be
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  pessimistic. But just to sort of say, like,
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  this is kind of how it is. And you are not, you know, doing
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  something wrong necessarily, it's making this not happen for
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  you. It's just math, isn't it?
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  I mean you crank, the numbers, you got like seven billion
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  people on the planet. You're trying to find one
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  person. So you're going to have to go
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  through a lot of churn to figure out where you sit, right.
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  I think to me, it smells nice. There's a great app actually
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  called hickey which I did it. Yeah, it's great, isn't it
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  right? And the guys from New York.
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  I think and he's such a cool dude.
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  Like I had an idea, I want to get on the show, I should get on
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  the show. I've seen interview.
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  He's such a cool guy and he's really nice and we did a brand
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  deal partnership on Instagram. It was kind of Of really, really
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  cool and we did a YouTube. I think we did a blog post as
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  well and I kind of advertise that app because I was just so
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  blown away by having a dating app, specifically people on the
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  Spectrum and what really threw me was like well how they
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  regulate this, how do they and they literally monitor it, they
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  have some guy that sits at then. There's sole purpose is to make
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  sure everyone's genuine and nobody's taking advantage of
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  it's crazy. But I think it's another thing
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  that a lot of apps have an issue with a special when they grow to
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  live sizes. Like how do you moderate that
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  many individuals? Laughter.
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  You know you'd have a team for everyone who joins her like, you
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  have like one person for every 10 members, it's nuts.
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  But I think that after really good and it's a good insight to
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  people who are feeling the same as what I found about it.
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  Like you know, you'll have someone on the Spectrum and
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  another personal inspection, we're looking for people and it
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  kind of matches up. And then you can talk about like
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  you're both shy or you know, you're there is there is like a
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  nut but you know what's funny about this is they are actually
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  working with love on the Spectrum.
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  Season 2, which is cool. All right, okay, that's awesome.
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  Yeah, and I was like, I was like wow, this is cool because you
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  know, that was a good insight and a good window into it.
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  And I think that like, the two biggest things is making friends
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  and making friends and relationships.
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  And having a job right there, the two biggest kind of areas
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  that my audience always ask me questions about you guys
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  watching right now. You'll sit there nodding and
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  give this video a thumbs up, if you agree, you know, finding a
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  job for someone's question, was difficult and then finding a
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  relationship, be a friends, friendship, relationship, or
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  romantic. Those are too difficult things.
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  So do you have a lot of people who are just trying to make
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  friendships with who come to you from seek for advice?
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  Yeah, I do. I definitely do.
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  I mean, so a lot of people that I'm working with are like mid
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  20s and the 30s. So they definitely have
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  maintained like a childhood friend of some kind.
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  And then they have a lot of friends at they'll either game
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  with or they'll do an activity with and I always say like,
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  that's great. Some of them I think again,
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  comparing, two movies, want to have this group of like, Five,
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  best friends. We all ride around on bikes and
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  like kind of like and I'm like most people don't have that
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  though. Don't like don't put that
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  pressure on yourself. Like if you're finding people to
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  go do activities with and you have a consistent group to do
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  that with that's awesome. Um and then the other thing
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  going into romantic relationships, kind of what you
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  were talking about in. This is why I did really like
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  love on the Spectrum and this is why I also really like hiki, he
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  is such a nice guy, I talked to him.
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  Once I am also from east coast and I was like, I your the Like
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  he just got his butt. So one of the things that I
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  really like about that is that like people you you want to be
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  with someone that has a common interest but also is going to
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  get you in some way. So like going for like a super
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  model that works in Hollywood and like I don't know parties.
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  All night probably isn't a good match but maybe someone who also
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  has a little bit of ADHD and can totally Understand when you're
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  having a moment, we're like, I can't pitch, like, I flake out
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  on my fiance sometimes and I'm like, it's nothing like an ADHD
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  moment. But you need someone who can
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  empathize or know what that is and like, gets it.
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  Yeah, 100%. Like this is one of the things
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  that I speak about a lot, when I speak about relationships, you
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  know, I'm lucky that. I mean, I've friendships, right?
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  I have I have one best friend, like, my best friend is my
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  cousin and, you know, we grew up together.
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  So like, that's why we're best friends, right.
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  And he's cool, he's super creative and and that's how we
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  get along. Play music together and stuff.
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  But, you know, in terms of romantic relationships, I've
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  only had like 3 to 16 relationships, when was like
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  high school and then the other was when I was in college, which
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  it's not university colleges think before you go to
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  university in the UK. Anyway and then yeah, when I
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  started, when I started working and then I died in the
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  relationship. I'm in now, you know, and the
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  lucky thing is, I'm Naomi who I'm with.
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  Now she has a first honours degree.
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  In childhood studies and development in autism.
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  So she comes from a background of standing, but she also, I
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  think she has ADD as well, so she, she has a lot of, like,
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  anxiety issues. So it's kind of cool, you know,
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  we kind of get along really well and we have, you know, we both
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  flake at the same things which is kind of fun.
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  And, and that's how we get along.
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  I think that build the reasons that those are the
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  relationships. I was in, didn't work out was
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  because they didn't understand it.
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  Only if they didn't have that kind of interest and you're
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  absolutely right the caliber of person you should go for.
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  You have to think logically like you can't be going up.
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  Somebody who? Yeah, it's going to, you know,
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  go to parties and like doing crazy stuff all the time because
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  it just nothing. That's not your lifestyle.
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  You know, you got to find something to fit your lifestyle.
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  And that's what I, you know, the people who have been a
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  relationship maybe been like burnt.
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  I noticed a big pattern of trying to adjust to their
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  Partners lifestyle or their Partners need and the partner.
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  Maybe you've been even asking too much, right?
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  Right? Whereas a person on the
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  Spectrum, thrives on their schedule and knowing what's
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  expected and, and once that starts to get thrown
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  continuously, that's not, you know, it's not a good feeling.
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  Yeah, I know 100%. I mean, yeah, I've had goodness
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  me. I like I did, I date, I tried, I
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  was kind of dating a girl before before I met Naomi just formally
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  and she was kind of like that person, you know, she she got
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  with our work friends and then, you know, drink wine and do all
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  the Stuff and like to go to dinner parties as not my scene
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  like that is not me at all. So that just never.
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  That is did not work. It just fell apart straight away
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  and you think in the beginning to doubt yourself that did it.
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  The default pack is I'm a weirdo and it's not.
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  It's just because you've got to find people who click with you.
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  You got five. People are kind of like Get You
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  know you because I like I know a lot of people who are on the
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  Spectrum like a friend of mine. Patrick hit his wife he met
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  because that gamers are both like obsessed Gamers.
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  Like I think he works with games like He reviews games and so he
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  met, his wife is a game engine and that's cool, because that
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  makes sense. So, I think it is there is that
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  much about it, but we're talking about, like, education and
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  stuff. A leak was awesome enough to sit
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  my course, which is called inside autism.
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  So, this is super exclusive guys.
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  The course, is currently in its its beta test and it will be
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  available within a month or so, but you can actually I think you
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  can go to my site and I'll sign up for the pre-reg which is
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  lover, learn or two. Dotnet you can go there now.
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  Read about it in Uganda pre-reg waiting list.
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  So when the cost is available you get notified, but Ali was
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  awesome enough to say. Yeah, I'll take the course, I'll
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  check it out and I wanted to feed back.
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  So early, you took the course inside autism.
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  So from from your perspective, like what would you say if
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  someone said, you like, what's the course about?
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  What would you say to them? I mean, so to me, it was talking
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  about autism from a person with autism, like, there were times
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  where you were saying things, where I'm like, oh yeah, I teach
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  that. But you just I said, it's so
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  much easier to break down like you really you talk about it in
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  a very simple, but effective way, like the way that you bring
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  up, you talk about sensory diet, right, and making sure that your
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  sensory system is in line. You know, I've heard an
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  occupational therapist. Talk about that and I get it and
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  I think it's amazing. You just broke it down in a way
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  of. Hey, this is how it worked for
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  me. This is exactly what I do.
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  Here's some other recommendations and I just think
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  it's so valuable. Table for especially parents of
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  kids on the spectrum. They don't have, you know, hours
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  to sit through like research articles like I do, right?
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  Like they don't do that. That was like.
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  Yeah yeah yeah and even an adult on the Spectrum, you know,
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  they're there to work through their day.
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  Again they don't want to sit and read.
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  There's plenty of books that, you know, have other information
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  like this, but you really break down.
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  Hey, this works for me, like, I remember one sentence, you said,
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  you were like a pause in conversation is when you can
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  start talking and I was Was like, yeah, that's so simple and
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  so true. But I feel like a lot of times
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  that gets there's like we add as therapists or whoever we add in
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  all these other layers, but it really is like and then go
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  absolutely. But I mean, it was really funny,
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  you know. So for anybody watching right
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  now I'm listening. I created this course to be a
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  course that people who were on the Spectrum could take and
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  people who are parents or carers off people on the Spectrum or
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  even therapist could take this course to learn more.
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  Because what I wanted to do is show the inside of us, that was
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  the idea of this course. So how do you feel it was
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  portrayed like, you know, you took the course?
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  How did you feel as a therapist watching this?
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  Like did you think that you know, it was well-balanced?
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  What did you think that was more for like parents or for people
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  on the Spectrum? Like, what were your thoughts?
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  No, I were you. And I had talked off-camera.
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  And I did say, like, you beautifully talked to three
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  audiences, which I think is really hard to do to beat active
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  parent. People on the Spectrum and
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  therapist. So, as a therapist, Again you
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  know I got a doctorate in this right?
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  So I like you know top myself as being pretty well-versed.
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  Yeah. And you sort of go over Concepts
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  that I already talked about but again in a much more manageable
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  way was so helpful like I've been implementing it now into
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  what I'm doing with the people I work with and it's clicking
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  better. So I think even for therapists
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  really nice add-on to probably what they're already doing it,
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  that's that's crazy. Good to know.
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  And, you know, the reason that there's a secret behind how I
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  did it and it's very simple and you can take this one and
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  anybody watching this. So the average understanding age
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  of a person is 3 years old. So we understand things other on
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  a perspective of someone who's three years old.
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  So you might be thinking, oh my goodness, and that goes for
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  anybody, who knows how big your intelligence butter is or how
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  many doctors you've got. And it's simply this when you
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  read, like news headlines and stuff like that, it's like man
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  dies in car. It doesn't tell you much more
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  than that, right? But that's like a child's book
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  like a three-year-old book, right?
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  Would say that but that's how we as a society digest information
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  because it's easier to understand.
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  So when I was making this course, I was like I have to
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  explain this so anybody can get it and say oh yeah, I install it
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  information because when you start layering on complex like
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  Notions and characteristics and you go yeah, I'm lost already,
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  you know, it becomes this like an encyclopedia of something and
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  I think that that's a lot. Like I've seen a lot of autism
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  kind of related courses. That are a little bit smaller
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  than mine and they just it just over complicate things and they
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  go through references and they show screenshots of like
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  journals. I'm thinking, what nobody cares
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  about this stuff. I just want to be able to go.
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  Can I take this to practical advice on?
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  The can I use it? So, that was my question, could
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  you say that? The course gives you practical
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  advice? Yeah, like, I cute, just like
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  one sentence things that I've been applying.
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  So, yes, like Everything was very, it's actionable.
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  Like you explain it and then you're like, here is something
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  you can directly do to now use this.
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  So, yeah, cool. That's a, so how do so, here's
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  another thing, how I do a lot of people when I say like, oh, I've
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  launched the course people say, like, I'm not very technically
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  minded, how easy did you find the?
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  Okay. Apart from the fact that we had
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  a bit of issues getting your account set up?
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  Because that was because it was a beta test.
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  But in terms of once we had your account set up, how easy did you
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  find the flow of the actual Tech of the course?
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  Extremely You and I am not technically my bear.
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  I actually work with someone on the Spectrum and he does all of
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  my tag and all I think if I just am not, I can okay good.
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  I was one of my biggest concerns.
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  I didn't want parents and grandparents to think like, oh
• 18:32
  my goodness, you know, I, I can literally go on Facebook on my
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  iPad or gonna go on YouTube and watch those videos.
• 18:37
  But, you know, I wouldn't be able to use this but I try to
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  make it is super easy as possible, like, Tech friendly
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  and like, you just as you can sign up.
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  And so if you were to If you were to sum it up like you know,
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  what would be, what parts were the most kind of like like mind
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  blowing past like the first person that you thought were
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  like really valuable because what I try to do is put stuff in
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  this course, that people don't even talk about, we will know
• 19:00
  even talking about this stuff, right?
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  So I try to know, did you have something that you learned from
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  this? You think like, whoa, holy
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  smokes. I've got a PhD and I didn't even
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  know this. Well, I think.
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  Sorry, I want to make a joke. This keeps remind me of like a
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  Blue's Clues. Like my handy dandy Bruno.
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  But like I mean so you compared how on the Spectrum might feel
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  I'm putting in like working on their sensory system like it's
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  like jet lag and like that really sat with me.
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  Like I was a walk because you know YouTube videos where they
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  try to show what it's like for a person with eighty HD at the
• 19:39
  mall. I don't know if you ever seen
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  that one but they might have but that to me like gel acts awful.
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  So like to that was just such a good comparison and Then you
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  also talked about. I think this is so I'll say add
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  value to the conversation and you said it's important to be
• 19:57
  helpful again, that's just a much easier way of saying, like,
• 20:00
  people want to be around people that are going to help them or
• 20:04
  that are adding something that they're interested in, right?
• 20:07
  As opposed to maybe just talking about straight facts, if you
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  can. And you also were saying that's
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  a really nice way to even start a conversation with some on the
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  go. I can pick that.
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  Up for you or let me help you with that.
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  It's just a nice opening. And again I think that's a
• 20:21
  strategy that to me. I was kind of like, Oh yeah, duh
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  but I'm not teaching it so yeah. Yeah, because a lot of the the
• 20:30
  course kind of like focuses on a lot of different things.
• 20:33
  Go from relationships to making friends to work life.
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  You know, and trying to get your kids to follow tasks trying to
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  you know to gauge the follow tasks and all those kind of
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  things. And so it was really fun to try
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  and put that together. I think that was that was a
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  difficult. Uncle taskstream put it together
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  in a, in a manner where you could understand what you're
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  saying without it being too kind of like, basic right.
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  So, I'm glad that you and that you enjoyed my terminology
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  because that was something that I was kind of scared about.
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  But but, um, yeah, I mean, if there's a super cool, I love
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  that fact that you took the course.
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  I think you are the first person ever to take the course on
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  basic. So, you know, a few people help
• 21:12
  me with the cost. I think it's seven hours.
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  I think roughly, I think it's about seven hours.
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  And the cool thing is like you could take it you guys sit there
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  for seven hours, do it in one sitting or you could just like
• 21:22
  literally take take it, you know?
• 21:24
  And then log back in and whatever you could go back on
• 21:27
  now actually I think you can just log in anytime you want and
• 21:29
  review it, right? But there was also some download
• 21:31
  documents. Did you get those as well?
• 21:33
  I think there was some downloads that go with its importance
• 21:35
  trying to remember right now I know one of them was I'll letter
• 21:41
  to be able to ask for in some way, which, again, duper
• 21:46
  helpful. You did all the talk about this
• 21:48
  to just the, you know, the advocacy component that needs to
• 21:51
  come with you on the Spectrum or as a parent ways that you can
• 21:54
  Advocate. Yeah, that was very helpful
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  actually have shared that with a few of the people.
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  I would that's awesome because one of the things like, I feel
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  like a lot of the this is the reason I started the culture,
• 22:06
  right? And, and it's because I have so
• 22:08
  many parents against me in desperation.
• 22:10
  And they're like I need some help and and then you say to
• 22:12
  look you need to do all these things and they say, oh my gosh,
• 22:14
  you know, I'm trying like after this kid, you know, trying to
• 22:17
  run a house, I have the two jobs.
• 22:19
  I'm also putting myself through college like how do I even how
• 22:22
  do I even begin to just do all these things?
• 22:23
  So I say, okay, well look, I've done it, I've done it all for
• 22:25
  you. You know, I've made the
• 22:26
  templates that you just fill in the blanks and send it in to the
• 22:28
  school or what, and that was kind of one of the one of the
• 22:31
  main things I wanted to do all of the work and like you said,
• 22:34
  like reading all those books since all those bloody lectures
• 22:38
  and getting all that stuff together.
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  Put it into a course and say. Okay, look, I've extracted the
• 22:42
  stuff that's actually useful. Here you go, take it and I hope
• 22:45
  that kind of came across. Yes, actually, I know you did do
• 22:48
  and I didn't realize it till now.
• 22:50
  So like when I'm presenting or I'm talking or whatever, it's
• 22:53
  from a speech brain, it's from that like social communication
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  brain what you did was holistically.
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  Talk about. Hey, these are all the parts of
• 23:02
  a person with autism that are going to be affected.
• 23:05
  This is how I would address each of them, I don't know if that
• 23:07
  really exists, there's a lot of like High Ville.
• 23:10
  This is what autism is but then there's a specialist about their
• 23:14
  thing. Yeah.
• 23:16
  And this is another thing. I don't know of any other
• 23:18
  autistic people who are running courses, autistic people like
• 23:22
  all of the courses I've come across have been therapists and
• 23:24
  it's like all how, you know, this is one of the things that
• 23:28
  I, if you have a therapist telling you something about
• 23:31
  somebody that they don't have a condition of, it's a bit weird
• 23:34
  to me. It's like a guy telling a woman,
• 23:36
  like a man selling a woman all about the woman's female
• 23:39
  reproductive. System and telling all about the
• 23:41
  menstrual cycles. You think it will again me, I'm,
• 23:43
  you know, if you're back home for a woman because she lives it
• 23:45
  day in day out. So, it's kind of like that, you
• 23:48
  know, I think I found a huge issue.
• 23:50
  Whether was like it was, no, there was, no, there's no
• 23:53
  autistic people putting the stuff out and I forgot to do it,
• 23:55
  but I do it because the parents are just literally begging for.
• 23:58
  So, if anybody is interested and you want to be on that
• 24:00
  pre-launch list, you can go to learn autism botnet right now,
• 24:04
  and you can download the free PDF book that I give away.
• 24:07
  And then you can get yourself on the registration list.
• 24:10
  First and one of the webinars available and stuff like that
• 24:12
  you can get on to the webinar because the first part of the
• 24:14
  course with the party you didn't have access to a lie.
• 24:16
  Is I do a the first part of course is free.
• 24:19
  We do like a three kind of three issues or three ways to improve
• 24:25
  life on probably only of the spectrum or for parents on the
• 24:27
  autism spectrum, right? And so I do that that class for
• 24:30
  free, it's like a webinar and so that is available.
• 24:33
  I'll send you a link that because then you can get into
• 24:35
  that and watch that as well as I think, you'll find that value in
• 24:37
  it but I gave you straight into the juicy Goods.
• 24:39
  I could give you access Cross straight away.
• 24:41
  So we have anybody interested in that, leave a comment as well or
• 24:43
  somebody email. If you can't find a website or
• 24:45
  anything like that, Alex being super, super awesome.
• 24:48
  How do people find you if they want to talk to you more about
• 24:50
  stuff and what you do? Yeah, thank you.
• 24:53
  So I am on a lie Arena Communications, that's my
• 24:57
  website or my Instagram is connecting with Ali and it's a
• 25:01
  li4, Abby. Yeah, cool.
• 25:03
  So connecting with Ali, awesome. I'll try another link.
• 25:05
  If you can text me your, you know, social system of got, I'll
• 25:09
  put them into the description. This video is also we can get
• 25:11
  into that. But yeah, this is super fun.
• 25:13
  Anybody listening on the podcast, I will try and leave it
• 25:16
  in the show notes. So if you go to the whichever
• 25:19
  after using, this is shown, as I should be some hyperlinks in
• 25:21
  there. If not, everything will be on
• 25:23
  the as we world.com because this will be returned to a Blog as
• 25:26
  well. And in terms of the course, you
• 25:29
  can definitely go to learn autism dotnet and check that
• 25:31
  out. Allie, thank you so much for
• 25:33
  coming on today. Yeah, thank you so much.
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