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UK Column News Extra Podcast 8th November 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Okay, welcome back a little bit early, perhaps, but welcome
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Speaker 1: back for some extra Thanks Mark and Debbie for joining again.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to say, we've got to recognize that
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Speaker 1: that a lot of people respect or at least have
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Speaker 1: a lot of hope in Donald Trump and his election.
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Speaker 1: A lot of UK called members have that as well,
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Speaker 1: and some people pushed back quite hard. And what I
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Speaker 1: said about him on Monday and well, first of all, Mark,
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Speaker 1: i'd be interested in what you thought about about sorry
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. What we what we said on Wednesday, Well, I.
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Speaker 2: Didn't watch it ultra intently. It was just the basic
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Speaker 2: idea that you can't necessarily expect policy to change markedly
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Speaker 2: or significantly between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Of course,
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Speaker 2: that's based on the truth that there's an establishment out there,
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Speaker 2: a power behind the throne that will only tolerate so
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Speaker 2: much nuance, that will only tolerate coloring outside their lines
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Speaker 2: so much. And that's true. Donald Trump is something of
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Speaker 2: a gadfly, of course. He grew up in a different
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Speaker 2: wealth lineage then let's say the Rockefellers. He had some
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Speaker 2: inherited wealth, but he worked for it more than these
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Speaker 2: mad toys like Rockefeller, Morgan and so on. A madtoid
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Speaker 2: is a person of great intelligence with criminal inclinations. But
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Speaker 2: so Trump is something of a different animal, to be sure,
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Speaker 2: being powerful in the New York City and New Jersey
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Speaker 2: real estate markets, things like that, a bit of a gadfly.
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Speaker 2: I think that carrying that over to politics, that big
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Speaker 2: business attitude has had some good effect. Certainly in his
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Speaker 2: first term he was able to impost some needed tariffs
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Speaker 2: and Chinese imports and put some revenue in our treasury
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Speaker 2: as a result. He balked at the Federal Reserve's policies
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Speaker 2: and was quite outspoken at times about that. He probably
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Speaker 2: could have went a little further on that one. He
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Speaker 2: certainly he trimmed or at least temporarily cut back on
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Speaker 2: WHL funding. He was a bit duplicitous in COVID, boosting
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Speaker 2: the COVID regime with Operation Warp speed and yet complaining
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Speaker 2: about some of the lockdown measures and things like that,
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Speaker 2: and again being skeptical of the WHO and withholding their funding.
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Speaker 2: Something of a mixed bag there. All in all, I
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Speaker 2: think that certainly he's not a boring guy. You'll never
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Speaker 2: be bored with Donald Trump, that's for sure, and he's
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Speaker 2: got a chance to prove himself now, to show his
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Speaker 2: nationalist and American America first bona fides are real, to
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Speaker 2: intensify some of the good things he did in his
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Speaker 2: first term, and all eyes are on him and his backers,
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Speaker 2: be the Americans or elsewhere, need to hold his feet
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Speaker 2: to the fire. And I think if they do, I
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Speaker 2: think they'll get reasonably satisfactory results. But Trump is under
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Speaker 2: pressure from groups like the CFR comes along formulations who's
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Speaker 2: overview of Trump I recited and reported on in the
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Speaker 2: main segment today. They don't just look at him and
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Speaker 2: talk about him and assess him against a globalist measurement.
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Speaker 2: They want him to do the things that they want,
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Speaker 2: and they're highly influential. The CFR comes out of big money,
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Speaker 2: It comes out of Rockefeller, it comes out of Morgan.
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Speaker 2: They don't play around. They've got journalists in their holding pen.
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Speaker 2: They have papers that they put into congressional committees advising
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Speaker 2: them on what to do.
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Speaker 3: And they have.
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Speaker 2: Personnel who will go to the State Department, possibly of
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Speaker 2: the Trump administration, go to the Pentagon, possibly under the
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Speaker 2: Trump administration. So the CFR isn't just some armchair philosophy
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Speaker 2: sitting in overblown leather chairs sipping cavia. They are they
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Speaker 2: want action on the globalist agenda, and they don't see
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Speaker 2: a lot of that in Trump. They give him pretty
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Speaker 2: bad grades, as I noted in the main report. So
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Speaker 2: Trump would appear to be that America first or that
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Speaker 2: everyone wants, but appearances can be misleading. You have to
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Speaker 2: be careful any politician, you have to be careful. And
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Speaker 2: it's going to be a matter of the people getting
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Speaker 2: involved and holding his feet to the fire if he
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Speaker 2: hires too many c if our people in his administration.
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Speaker 2: People need to balk at that. They need to send
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Speaker 2: him letters, They need to say we don't like what
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Speaker 2: we're seeing. So people have to stay involved and not
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Speaker 2: just get overly inundated by the man on the white horse.
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Speaker 2: That's going to save us all a phenomenon. He will
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Speaker 2: be a market improvement over Joe Biden. Of course that's
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Speaker 2: not saying much just about anybody. Alfred y Nuwman of
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Speaker 2: Mad magazine would be an improvement over Joe Biden. But
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Speaker 2: Trump does have a lot of honies. He's got a
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Speaker 2: lot of courage, I think, to be assertive when he
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Speaker 2: needs to be so there's a lot of eyes on
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Speaker 2: Trump now. He's going to have to live up to
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Speaker 2: his core promises that people are going to have to
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Speaker 2: keep his feet to the fire. And if he's really
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Speaker 2: the American America first nationalist that the CFR doesn't want,
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Speaker 2: then Donald Trump has to prove it. The proof will
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Speaker 2: be in the pudding. And that's why we're journalists to
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Speaker 2: make sure that the facts get out so people can
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Speaker 2: make these judgments.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so let me ask you this.
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Speaker 1: Then, Obviously he's in a much much stronger position this
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Speaker 1: time than he was in twenty sixteen because he appears
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Speaker 1: to be winning. He appears to be winning the hust
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Speaker 1: of representatives. He has a majority in the Senate. Does
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Speaker 1: let's just take the majority in the Senate for a second.
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Speaker 1: Does him having a majority in the Senate guarantee that whoever,
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Speaker 1: basically whoever he chooses for positions in his cabinet will
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Speaker 1: get the Senate approval if they need.
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Speaker 2: Certainly will increase the likelihood Americans at least need to
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Speaker 2: keep an eye on their senators as to who's being
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Speaker 2: nominated for what and what they're approving. You know, what,
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Speaker 2: if there if there were to be a change in
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. Let's say Clarence Thomas, a flagship conservative word,
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Speaker 2: to step down. He's getting up in years, and they
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Speaker 2: were to replace Clarence Thomas, that would be an important one.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: You know, various departments in Department of Defense, Department of
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Speaker 2: State are going to be going to be really important.
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Speaker 2: Whether we're senator approval would be required. And let's not
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Speaker 2: forget the Pandemic Treaty that the final touches of which
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Speaker 2: are being put put on right now. According to James Ruguski,
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Speaker 2: people can go to James Reguski dot substack dot com
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Speaker 2: to see the latest on that. Will the Senate will
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Speaker 2: they treat it as the treaty that it is, and
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Speaker 2: will Donald Trump and his administration raise that specter and say,
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Speaker 2: you Senators have to treat this like a treaty. The
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Speaker 2: Constitution requires your advice and consent. And if Trump is
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Speaker 2: so inclined, this treaty doesn't look good to me. I
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Speaker 2: don't like the smell of it. I urge you to
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Speaker 2: decline on this. That would be a major bell weather
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Speaker 2: issue right there, Mike. In terms of the House, I
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Speaker 2: think they're still looking at the final touches on what
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Speaker 2: the House majority would be for the Republican Party. Not
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Speaker 2: all Republicans are of the same persuasion. Some are the
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Speaker 2: purely big business kind of Rockefeller Republicans that don't like
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Speaker 2: the new brand of Republican that Trump represents a slightly
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Speaker 2: more populous bent. Hopefully that's genuine and not deceptive. But
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Speaker 2: it is better than his first term. And another factor
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Speaker 2: in it, Mike, is that Trump can be a little
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Speaker 2: bit more unequivocal now because I don't believe he can
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Speaker 2: serve another term beyond this one. He's just been elected
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Speaker 2: to and so he's got to really get to business.
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Speaker 2: He's got four years. He can move with more impunity now,
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Speaker 2: and so let's we'll see just how courageous he is
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Speaker 2: and just how genuine he is. The proof again, the
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Speaker 2: proofs in the pudding. There is a lot of confidence
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Speaker 2: among a lot of people I know in Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: But you know, my job as a journalist is not
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Speaker 2: to be on the bandwagon, but you know, reportedly lay
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Speaker 2: out the information that can make a difference.
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Speaker 1: And just a final point on this then, I mean,
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Speaker 1: in his first term, they basically had him, we could
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Speaker 1: call it the deep stick, had him tied up in
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Speaker 1: knots with various kinds of uh, you know, Russia get
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Speaker 1: in quarries and legislative, you know, sort of judicial kinds
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Speaker 1: of things. Are we going to see the same types
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Speaker 1: of attacks on him? Is he going to be tied
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Speaker 1: up and knots again? Does he have the kahonas to
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Speaker 1: actually deal with that this time because he didn't the
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Speaker 1: first time?
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Speaker 2: Rynd, that is one of the best questions I've heard,
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Speaker 2: Ask Mike. That is essential the media, even though Jeff
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Speaker 2: bezos confessional that I reported on last week shows that
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Speaker 2: they're sinking and finally he's admitting it's their own fault.
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Speaker 2: And the Los Angeles Times had a similar melee at
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Speaker 2: their newsroom. No more endorsements, it's our own fall, you know.
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Speaker 2: But losing viewers, losing subscribers, board members from editorial boards, resigning.
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Speaker 2: But the media is pretty incorrigible. They and elements of
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Speaker 2: what we call the deep state, Rhino Republicans, the Democratic Party,
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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. I believe you're right They're going
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Speaker 2: to kick a lot of dust in Trump's face. There's
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Speaker 2: going to be a lot of allegations, probably things we
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Speaker 2: don't expect to try and trip him up, and he's
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Speaker 2: going to have to cut through that with a very
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Speaker 2: straightforward way of doing things, not to be too distracted
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Speaker 2: or too dismantled by the s storm sh the shit
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Speaker 2: storm that's sure to come his way. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of interest that didn't want him back in there, So
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Speaker 2: that is the big question. Can he resist what will
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Speaker 2: be an even bigger shade storm this time around?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? W what are your thoughts?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I can never understand actually why you know,
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Speaker 5: when somebody's elected in America, you've got this two months
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Speaker 5: sort of transition time. It seems an awful long time,
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Speaker 5: whereas here in the UK, you know, we have an
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Speaker 5: election and our prime ministers in Downing Street overnight. You know,
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Speaker 5: the removals van have been and gone. So I've always
10:28
Speaker 5: found that a bit strange. But I think, you know,
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Speaker 5: when it comes to Trump, I get why people are
10:34
Speaker 5: so thank goodness Trump's got in, because clearly if if
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Speaker 5: I mean this is just a hypothetical, but if Carmala
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Speaker 5: had got in, perhaps that would have triggered a civil war.
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Speaker 5: I don't know. So I get the reason that people
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Speaker 5: are very relieved that Trump's gotten in and nobody was
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Speaker 5: more pleased when I saw him withdraw from the WHO
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Speaker 5: last time. I mean, it's yes or right. And he's
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Speaker 5: a charismatic character with a personality. I mean, you know Boris.
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Speaker 5: We were all fascinated with Boris's personality because Boris has
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Speaker 5: got he goes, He goes places where angels fear to tread.
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Speaker 5: Let's face it, and I think Trump does too. And
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Speaker 5: I've listened to many pastors in the Bible Belt in
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Speaker 5: America and I get it. I get why everybody's like
11:21
Speaker 5: make America great again. But I agree with Mark in
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Speaker 5: that I think he has got to What is he
11:27
Speaker 5: going to do? He's at maga make America great again?
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Speaker 5: So is he going to stick to his promises and
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Speaker 5: stick to America first? This is what's going to be interesting.
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Speaker 5: What if Iran, for example, should attack Israel, will he
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Speaker 5: get involved or will he go you know what this
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Speaker 5: is about America. This is about me protecting our people
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Speaker 5: and we're not going to get involved if China and
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Speaker 5: if the China and Taiwan thing hots up, is he
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Speaker 5: going to turn around and go None of my business.
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Speaker 5: I'm making America great again. And you know he's very
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Speaker 5: tight with Elon musk NEURALNK. You know SpaceX all he
12:11
Speaker 5: put in I think it's called space force mark just
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Speaker 5: before in his last term, and warp speed. So I'm
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Speaker 5: very much on the fence. But I don't think personally
12:23
Speaker 5: we should expect any one person, especially a politician, to
12:27
Speaker 5: come in and save us. I think it's if we
12:30
Speaker 5: all sit back and go all fantastic Trumps in now
12:32
Speaker 5: he's going to make it all right. I think we
12:35
Speaker 5: really need to be cautious a feeling like that, and
12:39
Speaker 5: let's see what he does. But I get why so
12:41
Speaker 5: many people are happy that he's in. But I think
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Speaker 5: it's early days and yeah, we'll see.
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Speaker 1: So I agree with everything you said there, Debbie. I
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Speaker 1: mean a couple of points I would make. It is
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Speaker 1: dangerous if people put all their fifth in one person
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Speaker 1: and therefore then say, well, I don't need to get
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Speaker 1: involved because he's going to sort it out for us.
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Speaker 1: I think that is very, very dangerous. I think though,
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Speaker 1: that that with respect to foreign policy, which is really
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Speaker 1: what I was saying on Monday, it's clear what they
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Speaker 1: are intending to do.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And to this, to this degree, I mean Marcus was suggesting.
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Speaker 1: That that the the issue with Trump and NATO was
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Speaker 1: was a bit overblown in in the.
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Speaker 3: In the main news.
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Speaker 1: But the point here is that the NATO establishment, the
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Speaker 1: military industrial complex, has been wanting the European Union to
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Speaker 1: step up to the plate on defense for years and
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Speaker 1: the EU, the EU, this sort of EU establishment has
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Speaker 1: been wanting the EU member states to step up to
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Speaker 1: the plate for years. And we've been covering at the
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Speaker 1: UK column. This whole drive for European defense union. Defense
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Speaker 1: union is not any different to Monetary Union or any
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Speaker 1: of the other unions that the EU has. They have
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Speaker 1: all these policy areas that they describe as unions where
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Speaker 1: they've merged everything Monetary Union, the EURO and so on.
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Speaker 3: They've merged.
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Speaker 1: They effectively move the par base from the member states
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Speaker 1: legislatures up to the European Commission level. And of course,
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Speaker 1: as we know, the European Commission is selected effectively. It's
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Speaker 1: not it's not a popular vote which chooses the people
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Speaker 1: that sit in that so Urschela vonder Lean never had
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Speaker 1: a popular vote for her to be in her position.
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Speaker 1: But she wants control of EU defense decisions and they
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Speaker 1: want We've been talking about this for years. They want
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Speaker 1: single point command and control of the militaries of the
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Speaker 1: European nations. And Trump has without question been used by
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Speaker 1: the NATO establishment to drive fear within the populations of
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Speaker 1: European member states in order to give the political elites
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Speaker 1: within those countries the mandate to move forward with this project.
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Speaker 1: And that is going to be the case. But of
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Speaker 1: course he has contributed to this himself, because we reported
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen his speech at the NATO the opening
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Speaker 1: of the new NATO headquarters and Brussels, where he was
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Speaker 1: basically telling the leaders of European member states off for
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Speaker 1: not spending enough on defense. The UK has said it
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Speaker 1: is going to lead the way by spending two and
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Speaker 1: a half percent on defense, and they have said Jeremy
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Speaker 1: Hunt was saying yesterday, we don't need to worry because
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Speaker 1: as soon as the UK spends two and a half percent,
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Speaker 1: everybody else in the e starts ending two and a
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Speaker 1: half percent as well. Right, So we're leading, we're leading
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Speaker 1: the charge here. But the fact that Trump is now
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Speaker 1: president is going to reinvigorate it already has reinvigorated. In fact,
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Speaker 1: Urban yesterday at the EU meeting was talking about the
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Speaker 1: reinvigoration of this move towards a European defense infrastructure. So
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Speaker 1: that's already happening. That's one of the things that's already
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Speaker 1: happening as a result of Trump winning the election. And
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Speaker 1: the video clip that I should of Vance on Monday
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Speaker 1: where he was describing what he saw as being the
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Speaker 1: way that things would work, that the United States, the
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Speaker 1: Trump administration wants Israel to step up to the plate
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Speaker 1: and deal with Iran, they want the European Union to
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Speaker 1: step up to the plate and deal with Russia, and
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Speaker 1: they want to be able to focus. The US wants
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Speaker 1: to be able to focus itself on China. And that
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Speaker 1: that is not a policy that JD. Vance been expressing
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Speaker 1: on his own. That is something that has gone right
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Speaker 1: through the Trump sort of platform for ever actually and
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Speaker 1: going back, and it has I mean even people like
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Speaker 1: Nigel Farage are echoing this right, So that that is
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Speaker 1: going to be I believe.
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Speaker 3: The fund now on the Israel matter.
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Speaker 1: In the meantime, of course, and Mark, you can tell
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Speaker 1: us a little bit more about this, because Debbie's talked
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Speaker 1: about this transition period. So we have a transition period
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Speaker 1: now where Biden is still supposedly the president, but there's
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Speaker 1: this handoff to Trump. And how does that work? Because
17:38
Speaker 1: aircraft have just been sent because RAF Lake and Heath
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Speaker 1: is effectively a United States Air Force base even though
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Speaker 1: it's called RAF Lake and Heath, and it's just been
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Speaker 1: upgraded for nuclear weapons because the F thirty five USF
17:54
Speaker 1: thirty five are going to be stationed there and so on.
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Speaker 1: But a whole bunch of aircraft I believe fifteens, I
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Speaker 1: can't remember. I think it's at fifteen's have just flown
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Speaker 1: from Lake and Heath to the Middle East in preparation
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Speaker 1: for a potential attack by Iran. And as Vanessa was
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Speaker 1: saying on Wednesday, that is very likely to happen now
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Speaker 1: and Iran, certainly the rhetoric seems to have strengthened somewhat
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Speaker 1: and they are intending to do something with Israel very
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Speaker 1: very soon. So there's already US assets be moved into
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Speaker 1: the region potentially to get involved in that if that
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Speaker 1: happens or when that happens. So, Mark, how does this work?
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Speaker 1: Can Trump? Does he already have the ability to change
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Speaker 1: that policy or is that something that he has no
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Speaker 1: control over until January?
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Speaker 2: The answer would be he has no direct control over
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Speaker 2: it until he's actually inaugurated. All he can do now
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Speaker 2: is express his opinion. Joe Biden is still president, like
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Speaker 2: it or not. And it's a dangerous time in the
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Speaker 2: sense that Joe Biden could simply go along if he
19:05
Speaker 2: already supports this thing, or he could easily be pressured
19:08
Speaker 2: to support it if he doesn't go along with it,
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Speaker 2: because hey, he's going to be out of there fairly
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Speaker 2: soon anyway, and he can let Trump pick up the pieces.
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Speaker 2: So it's a time when exploitation can happen. When they
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Speaker 2: pass legislation in America, some of the worst legislation in
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Speaker 2: America has been passed during the time of transition, which,
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Speaker 2: as Debi noted, is extended here compared to the UK.
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Speaker 2: It's a very sensitive time between the election of a
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Speaker 2: new president and the seating of that new president. Some
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Speaker 2: of the worst legislation in US history, including the Federal
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Speaker 2: Reserve Act, has been passed in that time gap what
19:49
Speaker 2: they call the lame Duck Session, the lame duck time.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we have to be very watchful right now.
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Speaker 2: All Trump can do is make his views known, and
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Speaker 2: he can be pretty of course, his views will be
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Speaker 2: widely reported, so it'll have a lot of impact. But
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is still president, so it's a it's a sensitive.
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Speaker 3: Time, right, okay.
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Speaker 1: And if if something egregious like that was done in
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Speaker 1: this limb duck time, could would would Trump have the
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Speaker 1: ability to just revoke that by some kind of executive
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Speaker 1: order as soon as he became president?
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Speaker 2: Generally speaking, yeah, he could reverse a policy. Just like
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Speaker 2: when Joe Biden got in, he took down the border
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Speaker 2: wall that was being built and piled a lot of
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Speaker 2: those sections only four or five miles from where I'm sitting,
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Speaker 2: and I'm going to be watching whether those slightly rusting
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Speaker 2: border walls metal sections will be removed from the land
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Speaker 2: along some old railroad tracks and taken taken to the
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Speaker 2: border and re erected. So yeah, just like Biden counteracted
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Speaker 2: a lot of border policies, Trump theoretic, in many ways
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Speaker 2: realistically could counteract some of these foreign policy measures. It
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Speaker 2: might not be real easy, but the answer is generally.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay, But in the meantime, of course, sorry Debb,
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Speaker 1: go ahead.
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Speaker 5: Sorry no, I was just going to add very quickly too,
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Speaker 5: because you know, when you think about Trump. We also
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Speaker 5: covered last week Professor Claire Wardle and misinformation. Information. Now
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Speaker 5: this I know it's always been an issue, but Trump
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Speaker 5: was really the catalyst when he came out with fake news.
21:27
Speaker 5: Because after he came out with the term fake news,
21:30
Speaker 5: everybody just went into overdrive and invented this information disorder
21:37
Speaker 5: where we're now seeing misinformation, disinformation, and malinformation. And if
21:43
Speaker 5: you take it back, although it was going on in
21:45
Speaker 5: World War One, World War two, propaganda, et cetera, and misinformation,
21:48
Speaker 5: it really became an industrial complex as soon as Trump
21:53
Speaker 5: uttered those two words fake news. We mustn't forget where
21:58
Speaker 5: that originated and where it started at the previous Trump presidency.
22:05
Speaker 1: I mean, and I have to say, you know, I've
22:08
Speaker 1: seen how it's being dealing with the press over the
22:11
Speaker 1: last day or two and he's not taking any nonsense
22:15
Speaker 1: from them, I will give them that. And they are
22:19
Speaker 1: trying their best to make him look like an.
22:22
Speaker 3: Idiot, but he's not. He's not.
22:25
Speaker 1: He's not falling for the stage, which which that is
22:29
Speaker 1: a positive thing.
22:30
Speaker 3: I suppose.
22:30
Speaker 1: I let's move from one world leader, Debbie to another.
22:38
Speaker 5: Well, we've got to come. We've got to talk about
22:40
Speaker 5: the royal family. I mean, you know, and I'm going
22:43
Speaker 5: to be talking loads more about the Royal family. And also,
22:47
Speaker 5: by the way, I just want to add, very very quickly,
22:49
Speaker 5: thank you for mentioning scrap the App Mike in the
22:53
Speaker 5: main News, because I'm going to announce to our viewers
22:55
Speaker 5: right now, every single week I'm going to be doing
22:58
Speaker 5: something about scrap the apps. Whether it's the NHS app
23:04
Speaker 5: that would be the first one, or whether it's your
23:05
Speaker 5: band cap or whatever. I'm going to be doing that.
23:07
Speaker 5: But you know, the Royal family. I'm so interested in
23:10
Speaker 5: the Royal family, and it seems that Channel four are
23:13
Speaker 5: interested in the Royal family too. Thank you to so much,
23:17
Speaker 5: so much to everybody who sent me this that Channel
23:19
Speaker 5: four were doing a big expose and the King, the
23:23
Speaker 5: Prince and their secret millions. And it's like, when I
23:28
Speaker 5: started to watch it, I thought, oh wow, And there
23:29
Speaker 5: were a few there were a few wow or whoa
23:33
Speaker 5: moments if you like, but also a lot of the
23:36
Speaker 5: material we have covered in our series The Green Kings.
23:40
Speaker 5: So we found out through dispatches that King Charles is
23:44
Speaker 5: charging the NHS NHS hospitals. This is in London, eleven
23:48
Speaker 5: million to park ambulances on the land. I mean, that's
23:51
Speaker 5: just a tip of the Iceberg.
23:52
Speaker 1: But I just want to remind that, just before you
23:55
Speaker 1: remind everybody, can I just ask some question, Debbie, because
23:57
Speaker 1: because I've seen this in Plymouth as well, bunch of
24:00
Speaker 1: ambulances being parked up, Why are the ambulances being parked
24:04
Speaker 1: up on this land in the first place.
24:06
Speaker 5: Now, that's a really good question. I mean that is
24:09
Speaker 5: the million dollar question, isn't it. And this is what
24:11
Speaker 5: is exposing now the King of unsustainability, because he's getting
24:16
Speaker 5: in all of this money from charities, from the NHS
24:20
Speaker 5: circle businesses. I mean, you name it everywhere, and we've
24:25
Speaker 5: been exposing it on the column for ABC ages and
24:27
Speaker 5: I would say to people, you know, go and have
24:29
Speaker 5: a look at the Green King, and even if you
24:32
Speaker 5: are a staunch Royalist like my mother, who is a
24:35
Speaker 5: staunch Royalist, it may just surprise you because this is
24:39
Speaker 5: based on fact.
24:40
Speaker 1: You know.
24:40
Speaker 5: We build everything, we base everything on evidence and fact.
24:44
Speaker 5: And one of the things that we brought out was
24:47
Speaker 5: the Savior of the World, you know, and people were
24:50
Speaker 5: shocked when they saw the statue of Prince Charles as
24:53
Speaker 5: he was then as the Savior of the world, with
24:57
Speaker 5: wings and a loin cloth, standing on a hill of
25:01
Speaker 5: skulls with a crucifix on there, and you can make
25:05
Speaker 5: whatever you want. I mean, there's so much to be
25:08
Speaker 5: said about that picture. But you know what, I've got
25:12
Speaker 5: a little tiny clip. There was a little trailer from
25:14
Speaker 5: the Channel four Dispatches Expose. Have a look at it
25:18
Speaker 5: and see what you think.
25:20
Speaker 3: Hold on, I have to find it first.
25:21
Speaker 1: Keep talking, I'll keep till well.
25:23
Speaker 5: It was shocking, quite honestly, and I really do think
25:26
Speaker 5: that King Charle, he's got his fingers in every single pie.
25:30
Speaker 5: Have a look.
25:35
Speaker 6: Tonight. What Charles and William aren't telling you about their
25:39
Speaker 6: secret millions? Their private estates, the Duchess of Lancaster and
25:44
Speaker 6: Cornwall make Charles and William fifty pounds a year, but
25:49
Speaker 6: they have repeatedly refused to reveal exactly which properties they own.
25:55
Speaker 1: Then we have a report on the theos of properties
25:57
Speaker 1: at why.
26:00
Speaker 6: And details of how these estates make their staggering profits
26:04
Speaker 6: and from where have remained secret until now.
26:11
Speaker 1: Well God almighty.
26:14
Speaker 6: But this is a really really important revelation. Thousands of
26:18
Speaker 6: documents are obtained by Dispatches reveal how hard up government departments, schools,
26:24
Speaker 6: and even the NHS are helping to keep the cash
26:27
Speaker 6: rolling in for Charles and William.
26:31
Speaker 5: You make him money off of um me make him
26:32
Speaker 5: money after poor Personally.
26:34
Speaker 3: It's all shrouded in secrecy, isn't it. I don't know
26:37
Speaker 3: why we don't find out more about it.
26:39
Speaker 6: Actually, our evidence shows how the commercial activities of these
26:45
Speaker 6: private estates are undermining their environmental commitments.
26:51
Speaker 1: Well this is the worst performing kind of property.
26:54
Speaker 4: Well we can reveal to you that the landlord we
26:57
Speaker 4: are talking about is the Duchy of Cornwall, which was
27:00
Speaker 4: managed for about fifty years by Charles who is now
27:04
Speaker 4: the king, and is now run by Prince William.
27:08
Speaker 3: Okay, that does surprise me.
27:13
Speaker 5: I think when you own so much, it's hard to
27:16
Speaker 5: comprehend how people could appreciate such a small beech.
27:21
Speaker 3: They clearly don't understand who we are and what we value.
27:25
Speaker 1: All the play.
27:30
Speaker 6: They are exempt from most of the taxes we all pay,
27:33
Speaker 6: and there are now calls for that to change.
27:37
Speaker 7: This would be a brilliant time for the monrock to
27:40
Speaker 7: say I'm going to be open and I want to
27:43
Speaker 7: be treated as fairly as anybody. It is public money,
27:46
Speaker 7: it's taxpayers money, your money, it's my money, it's the
27:49
Speaker 7: viewer's money.
27:53
Speaker 5: It's your money and it's being stolen. And it's not
27:58
Speaker 5: that of other stuff that he's filtering off money from charities,
28:03
Speaker 5: he's filtering off money from sports. He's sucking out the
28:08
Speaker 5: money from celebrities of which he's become part. His family connections,
28:13
Speaker 5: his close family connections. We cover all of this in
28:17
Speaker 5: The Green King. So when you look at now where
28:20
Speaker 5: everybody's asking questions about the royal family, and it's not
28:23
Speaker 5: just our UK royal family, but it's also you can
28:26
Speaker 5: see the Spanish King got mud thrown at him recently
28:30
Speaker 5: with regards to Valencia floods. I can tell you that
28:33
Speaker 5: Prince Charles came to visit me after I lost my
28:36
Speaker 5: house to floods and mud. Does he care? No, they
28:41
Speaker 5: don't care. And in Cornwall, I'm want to runt now
28:44
Speaker 5: in Cornwall, when any of the Royal family do come
28:47
Speaker 5: down to Cornwall, they temporarily fix the potholes of where
28:51
Speaker 5: their royal carriages or royal cars are going to go,
28:56
Speaker 5: and it's a cheap fill just so that they think, honestly,
28:59
Speaker 5: the whole thing is a scam. There's much more to
29:01
Speaker 5: come on King Charles, what his dealings are, who he
29:06
Speaker 5: is who he's linked to, who his family are linked to,
29:10
Speaker 5: and what has his agenda been for the last fifty years.
29:14
Speaker 5: He has been the Prince in waiting for a reason,
29:18
Speaker 5: and that reason is now that he is the globalist
29:22
Speaker 5: of He's the top globalist in the world in my opinion,
29:26
Speaker 5: and he's got an awful lot to answer for. And
29:29
Speaker 5: as people are starting to ask questions, more and more
29:32
Speaker 5: dirt is coming out. But yes, King Charles, I'm keeping
29:38
Speaker 5: a very close eye. But not just King Charles, on
29:41
Speaker 5: Princess of Wales, on Queen Camilla, on their family. I'm
29:47
Speaker 5: keeping an eye on all of them. The Duke of Edinburgh,
29:50
Speaker 5: Prince Edward his family, the Duchess of York Andrew. What
29:55
Speaker 5: are all these people up to now?
29:57
Speaker 1: And don't forget San Princess Anne. It's very interesting because
30:02
Speaker 1: she hides in the background. You don't really see very
30:04
Speaker 1: much of her, but she's behind Common Purpose, She's behind
30:07
Speaker 1: CSC leaders she's behind the Windsor Leadership Trust. She's all
30:12
Speaker 1: the globalist leadership programs that are placing people in positions
30:16
Speaker 1: of partner authority in the country and she's right there, supporting,
30:20
Speaker 1: supporting it.
30:20
Speaker 3: So you know, she also has a role to play.
30:23
Speaker 5: Oh, don't even start me. And you know what it's
30:27
Speaker 5: I find myself in this really sort of again. It's
30:30
Speaker 5: a divisive situation because my family, my mother and my
30:35
Speaker 5: family are very pro royalists. And if I turned around
30:38
Speaker 5: right now, because I'm my mother.
30:39
Speaker 1: Is that an edge thing, Debbie, do you think it's
30:43
Speaker 1: Do you think it's Do you think that older generation
30:46
Speaker 1: would be more pro monarchy and the younger generation actually
30:50
Speaker 1: wouldn't be too worried about seeing the.
30:51
Speaker 3: Back of them.
30:53
Speaker 5: I definitely think that's in it. And of course the
30:55
Speaker 5: older generation remember the Queen, and many people have got
30:58
Speaker 5: although the Queen her first let's not just forget her
31:01
Speaker 5: first public visit after lock up was port and down,
31:04
Speaker 5: so there are question marks there too. But a lot
31:06
Speaker 5: of people think of the queen. But my mum is
31:10
Speaker 5: very very pro royalists. And if I turn around now,
31:13
Speaker 5: you know that we've got pictures in this house of
31:17
Speaker 5: my father with the now King, of my father with
31:23
Speaker 5: the Princess Royal. So you know, military connections have led
31:27
Speaker 5: to introductions, and I myself met Charles and when I
31:33
Speaker 5: trained at the Royal Free it was opened by the Queen,
31:36
Speaker 5: so I met the queen. But now when I see
31:40
Speaker 5: how much is involved and how much corruption and dirty
31:44
Speaker 5: dealings there are, it's simply staggering. And I think more
31:48
Speaker 5: of this is going to evolve. We're going to start
31:51
Speaker 5: start seeing more. But as regards the young generation, yeah,
31:54
Speaker 5: I don't think the younger generation really cared to be
31:56
Speaker 5: quite honest, I think they could take it or leave it.
32:00
Speaker 1: A problem we have here, Mark, is that you know,
32:03
Speaker 1: we're lumbered with this historical artifact. But the United States,
32:09
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe there are people who would say, well,
32:11
Speaker 1: we should be a republic, and then we look at
32:13
Speaker 1: the United States, and and of course you supposedly, you
32:17
Speaker 1: supposedly don't have an aristocracy, and that's nonsense. You absolutely
32:22
Speaker 1: do have an aristocracy. All the names that you mentioned,
32:25
Speaker 1: the Rockefeller and Bush and all these and Harriman and
32:28
Speaker 1: all these types of people that you know, go to
32:32
Speaker 1: Yeale and Harvard and whatnot and consider themselves to be
32:35
Speaker 1: the blue bloods of urination. I'm not certain that that
32:39
Speaker 1: you're in any better position.
32:41
Speaker 2: Actually, there's a slight difference, only that it's less based
32:47
Speaker 2: on blood and more based on money, kind of a
32:50
Speaker 2: money acracy. But the effect is about the same, and
32:55
Speaker 2: in a way it's worse in a in the sense
32:58
Speaker 2: that it's a little bit more hidden. The average American
33:01
Speaker 2: is just beginning to grasp that the political system and
33:05
Speaker 2: the politicians we see the branches of government are an
33:08
Speaker 2: outward thing, but inwardly behind the throne there's old money
33:14
Speaker 2: lines and those lines of inheritance. They parked their money
33:19
Speaker 2: in tax exem foundations, while the rest of us pay taxes.
33:23
Speaker 2: So it's a different kind of royalty built a slightly
33:27
Speaker 2: different way, and it's more deceptive, but in the end,
33:32
Speaker 2: the effect is about the same. A republican form of
33:35
Speaker 2: government or republic, I think, is a pretty good one,
33:38
Speaker 2: but it's also an extremely fragile one. Even James Madison
33:43
Speaker 2: talked about that, as did some of the other founders.
33:46
Speaker 2: Benjamin Franklin, it's a republic if you can keep it.
33:49
Speaker 2: They knew it was fragile, and they were right.
33:52
Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, Finders, sorry, the Finding fathers saying at the time,
33:58
Speaker 1: I can't remember whether it was Automs or Franklin or
34:01
Speaker 1: whoever it was. You know, we should not be moving
34:04
Speaker 1: to a party political model. This is this is a
34:06
Speaker 1: recipe for disaster.
34:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, George Washington too. Yeah, and they were vindicated big
34:12
Speaker 2: time on that one as well as Jefferson. It's sad
34:16
Speaker 2: because the political parties make everything into an ideology because
34:21
Speaker 2: one important point about the presidency the irony is is
34:24
Speaker 2: that in the ideal sense, it almost shouldn't even matter
34:27
Speaker 2: who the president is because they step in. Their job
34:31
Speaker 2: is to see to it that the laws are faithfully executed.
34:35
Speaker 2: They're supposed to have adherence to and reverence for the Constitution,
34:40
Speaker 2: the letter of the law, and they're supposed to apply
34:43
Speaker 2: those principles. Whoever steps into that gap is supposed to
34:46
Speaker 2: apply the very same principles. So in some ideal Republican sense,
34:51
Speaker 2: it shouldn't even hardly matter who the president is.
34:54
Speaker 1: So that's a really important point because that's exactly the
34:57
Speaker 1: role of the monarch as well. And and Britain, the
35:01
Speaker 1: monarch has subverted that role and well in a different way,
35:04
Speaker 1: the presidency the role has changed mm hmmm.
35:09
Speaker 2: And political parties are a chief way that that's been achieved. Well,
35:12
Speaker 2: you have to adhere to the party, but the party
35:14
Speaker 2: isn't totally in tune with the constitution. Wait, you don't
35:17
Speaker 2: want to fight that word. That means you're an isolationist.
35:19
Speaker 2: What the hell's wrong with you? We don't like no
35:21
Speaker 2: isolationists around here, and that's a big one with the CFR.
35:25
Speaker 2: They don't like them isolationist you know. They they they're they're,
35:28
Speaker 2: they're their red neck rat wingers here. So yeah, it's
35:34
Speaker 2: pretty pretty sensitive stuff. Anyway, I don't know if you
35:39
Speaker 2: wanted to. I had a couple other slides and I
35:41
Speaker 2: don't want to take.
35:43
Speaker 1: We're out of time mark, but but you did want
35:45
Speaker 1: to show this the second clip from Gordon Sinclair, So
35:48
Speaker 1: why don't you introduce that?
35:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he has a little bit more to say.
35:52
Speaker 2: This guy was really interesting Canadian journalists. As I mentioned
35:57
Speaker 2: the way he spoke up, and one of his main
35:59
Speaker 2: things was he always knew the main press, even the
36:03
Speaker 2: legacy press of his day, was still even then getting
36:07
Speaker 2: into statism to preach the gospel of the state. The
36:10
Speaker 2: state can't be wrong about fluoridation, the state can't be
36:13
Speaker 2: wrong about vaccination. If the moon, if the moon's made
36:16
Speaker 2: of cream cheese and the state says it, it must
36:18
Speaker 2: be true. But he had a way of saying things
36:21
Speaker 2: as well as the specific topics he addressed, so you know,
36:25
Speaker 2: to learn more about Gordon Sinclair. Let's listen to a
36:28
Speaker 2: little bit more from him.
36:31
Speaker 8: I object on the grounds of my rights as a
36:34
Speaker 8: citizen to refuse medicine. I don't want this medicine, and
36:37
Speaker 8: I challenge the authority of anybody to force it on me.
36:40
Speaker 8: You can go to a drug store and buy a
36:42
Speaker 8: cannabis sodium fluoride, but under the laws of our country
36:46
Speaker 8: it will have to be labeled poison.
36:48
Speaker 3: This is a must.
36:49
Speaker 8: It is a basic chemical used in rat and bug poison.
36:53
Speaker 8: No one disputes that point. No one claims that floride
36:56
Speaker 8: is useful to any adult anywhere on earth, under any
36:59
Speaker 8: condition or a combination of conditions. They do claim that
37:03
Speaker 8: it is helpful to some of the teeth of some
37:05
Speaker 8: of the children, that it is not cumulative in the
37:08
Speaker 8: human system, and that it will not be injurious okay,
37:11
Speaker 8: or right back to my point, and that point is this,
37:14
Speaker 8: Why if this is supposedly good to a limited group
37:18
Speaker 8: in the population, is it forced in the water of
37:21
Speaker 8: all of the people all the time. One of the
37:23
Speaker 8: rights we have to protect is the individual right to
37:26
Speaker 8: take or refuse medicine, and I don't want that right
37:29
Speaker 8: trampled underfoot. Well, that's all from Gordon Sinkler, who normally
37:34
Speaker 8: does only the weather on assignment.
37:36
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, gardon.
37:41
Speaker 3: A bit of a character. I think you're muted.
37:45
Speaker 2: Mark, Sorry, I had there was an extra noise here. Yeah,
37:50
Speaker 2: he was quite a guy. I like the little the
37:52
Speaker 2: dry sense of humor he had as well. I normally
37:55
Speaker 2: do the weather, but now I'm going to let it.
37:56
Speaker 2: Let you have it on fluoride.
37:58
Speaker 5: So he's right. He's completely right, you know, Mike, because
38:04
Speaker 5: what he said there was medicalizing water medical water, and
38:09
Speaker 5: in a recent interview with Joy Warren, she said, this
38:14
Speaker 5: is what she does. I'm not suggesting that anybody else
38:17
Speaker 5: should or could, but this is what Joy does. She
38:20
Speaker 5: says that because she didn't agree to receiving medicalized water,
38:25
Speaker 5: she doesn't pay her water rates for clean water. She
38:29
Speaker 5: plays the sewerage rates, but she doesn't pay for water because,
38:34
Speaker 5: she says, she's then got to go to the extra
38:37
Speaker 5: expense of getting either reverse osmosis or distillation to remove
38:44
Speaker 5: that fluoride from the water because she doesn't choose to
38:48
Speaker 5: drink water that's been medicalized, and thus far the water
38:53
Speaker 5: company have not insisted that she pays that particular part
38:59
Speaker 5: of her water bill. But this is all about medicalizing water,
39:02
Speaker 5: and in the first clip that marks but of course
39:05
Speaker 5: you don't know the dose. Nobody knows how much fluoride
39:08
Speaker 5: they're getting. It depends on how much water you drink,
39:10
Speaker 5: you know. So this is a huge This is a
39:14
Speaker 5: huge move in the USA. It could have huge effects
39:18
Speaker 5: here in the UK. I'm hoping.
39:23
Speaker 2: One other quick thing. He mentioned that kids don't drink
39:26
Speaker 2: a lot of water. That's even more true now. And
39:29
Speaker 2: to the extent they do, it's not out of the pipe,
39:31
Speaker 2: it's not out of the out of your cap. So
39:35
Speaker 2: you know, the fluoride is largely bypassing the kids anyway,
39:39
Speaker 2: by putting it in Hold on.
39:40
Speaker 1: Hold on it though, because they're drinking fizzy pop instead.
39:44
Speaker 1: And what is in that? You know, what is what's
39:47
Speaker 1: the water base that's used for that?
39:50
Speaker 3: Okay, that's true.
39:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the I don't know what
39:52
Speaker 2: the concentrations would be.
39:54
Speaker 8: I was.
39:54
Speaker 2: I meant in the strict sense of public water being
39:57
Speaker 2: used for that purpose, and therefore it's going to get
39:59
Speaker 2: in too because water is going to be used to
40:02
Speaker 2: make bread and so on. So yeah, point taken. But
40:06
Speaker 2: I just don't want viewers to forget that RFK now
40:11
Speaker 2: being rolled out once again, because this happened last time
40:15
Speaker 2: regarding medical matters. He's now being put up there once
40:18
Speaker 2: again a RFK junior as some sort of health advisor,
40:21
Speaker 2: maybe on some panel for Trump. And he's the one
40:24
Speaker 2: that I quoted in the main news saying they will
40:27
Speaker 2: call for a national ban on fluoridation upon getting in office.
40:31
Speaker 2: So those that have all eyes on Trump, this is
40:34
Speaker 2: a real bell weather issue because just like with vaccination,
40:38
Speaker 2: if you can make if you can assert your will
40:40
Speaker 2: on fluoridation and make it happen, that would be a
40:43
Speaker 2: measurement that Donald Trump is who he says he is.
40:46
Speaker 2: That would really prove his freedom loving impulses that are
40:52
Speaker 2: prove their genuine You can make foreign policy changes, you
40:56
Speaker 2: can do this or that, but if you can make
40:58
Speaker 2: a change on fundamental vasaccination policy or fluoridation, that really
41:02
Speaker 2: proves a lot. Let's say, for example, he was able
41:05
Speaker 2: to get the legal protection removed from big Pharma for
41:09
Speaker 2: vaccine damages that Reagan, a conservative Republican, passed in nineteen
41:14
Speaker 2: eighty six. Let's say Trump were to repeal that an
41:18
Speaker 2: exposed Pfizer to all the lawsuits that it deserves for
41:24
Speaker 2: mRNA and all that. Boy, if Trump were to do that,
41:27
Speaker 2: then then you know, he really would be on a
41:29
Speaker 2: white horse in a sense. So you know, a lot
41:34
Speaker 2: of proving grounds are coming up here, a lot of
41:37
Speaker 2: key pivotal issues that will really show where he's at.
41:41
Speaker 2: It's coming right up.
41:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, Well we will.
41:45
Speaker 5: Us with or to two pregnant women, the effects of
41:49
Speaker 5: drinking fluoridated water on pregnant women for the unborn baby
41:52
Speaker 5: because of the neurodeve developmental conditions that have been seen
41:57
Speaker 5: as a result of fluoride. Such a big subject, very important, okay.
42:03
Speaker 2: In lowering the IQ of children, yeah, children who have
42:06
Speaker 2: been born and pre born as well.
42:08
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, super Okay, Well, look we've got to leave
42:12
Speaker 1: it there for today. Thank you very much to Mark
42:14
Speaker 1: and Debbie. Hope everyone has a great weekend. One pm
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Speaker 1: as usual on Monday. See you then, bye bye.