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#2184 Aged Care Robots - Patrick Bonello · The You Project

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Speaker 1: I get a chance, Patty Chunk, Patty at Chung, Tiffy
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Speaker 1: at Young Jumbie, it's us. Let's start with the girl
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Speaker 1: who's cognitive function based on previous intel that Patrick and
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Speaker 1: I received four minutes ago, I'm assuming that your cognitive
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Speaker 1: function and your input to the show could be minimal, Tiff,
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Speaker 1: based on your zero hours of sleep.
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Speaker 2: Well, that could be the case. But I have triple
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Speaker 2: loaded on creatine, which has there's plenty of alleged research
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Speaker 2: about that negating the effects of a lack of sleep
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Speaker 2: on brain.
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Speaker 1: I think that's that is true, and that is pretty solid.
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Speaker 1: That so a triple dose. So what is that for you?
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Speaker 1: Like fifteen grams?
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Speaker 2: Oh no, I normally have that ten, so it's probably
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Speaker 2: twenty five or thirty.
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Speaker 3: I reckon, Wow, Wow, how did you say that? This
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Speaker 3: is not authorized by any medical expert whatsoever? Like the
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Speaker 3: two of those dickheads sitting there telling you a load
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Speaker 3: up on careat.
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Speaker 1: So, I don't remember anyone telling anyone to do what
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Speaker 1: she's doing.
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Speaker 3: I feel like she was just it sounded like you
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Speaker 3: were right up for it.
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Speaker 1: Crago, Tiff. Is his sound super loud?
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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit gainy?
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Speaker 1: Patrick?
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Speaker 2: If you could just sort yourself out.
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Speaker 1: Mate. It's very loud and kind of almost muffly.
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, how does that sound now? Is that any better?
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Speaker 3: Do we want to start all over again?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start again.
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Speaker 2: Okay, really it's not too bad, but yeah.
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Speaker 1: We'll start again. We'll do the same thing. You can
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Speaker 1: tell us just like I don't know, maybe it's my
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's me because TIF sounds normal, but
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Speaker 1: you sounded really like one point five her volume. Here
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Speaker 1: we go. I got a team, it's Harps, it's Tiff,
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Speaker 1: it's Patrick, it's the bloody Friday onslaught from us. Well
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Speaker 1: that's Friday when we're recording at seven thirty four. We've
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Speaker 1: got to be out at eight twenty nine, so stand
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Speaker 1: by for what is that equal? Fifty five minutes of
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Speaker 1: a verbal extravaganza. Just before Patrick jumps on, Tiff has
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Speaker 1: had zero hours sleep, so she be shipped today. Why
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Speaker 1: did you have zero hours sleep?
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Speaker 2: Because I think that that is that is the blessing
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Speaker 2: of perimenopause and female hormones and the beautiful evolution of
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Speaker 2: life as a lass. But perhaps, as I said before,
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Speaker 2: I've had a triple dose of creatine. So my brain
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Speaker 2: function is going to be Mickey mouse.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Patrick uses and endorses and supports fully creatine. You're
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Speaker 1: not a big mate, What do you What do you
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Speaker 1: know about creatine?
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Speaker 3: Look? I was saying, okay, this is a take all.
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Speaker 3: By the way, let me just explain myself. And why
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Speaker 3: they're laughing at me is because tiploaded up on creatine
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Speaker 3: Crago at the start of our first effort at the show,
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Speaker 3: said yeah, that seems like a good idea, and I
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Speaker 3: hazarded to say that potentially this is not sound medical
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Speaker 3: advice that we would recommend to everybody. And then I
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Speaker 3: got jumped on and told that I was talking too loud.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know a lot about toothpaste, the toothbrush that
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Speaker 2: you gave me. By that time, I tell.
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Speaker 3: You that that was two years ago. You still haven't
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Speaker 3: let go of that. I haven't.
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Speaker 1: Can I ask what is a sonic toothbrush?
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Speaker 2: Remember that special sonic toothbrush? Patrick, coming banging on about that.
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Speaker 2: You just chuck it in your mouth and it's like
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Speaker 2: thirty seconds you cleaned your teeth.
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Speaker 3: Does fuck all.
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Speaker 1: On you put a toothbrush in your mouth? Is it
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Speaker 1: like a mouthguard?
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Speaker 2: This mouthguard thing doesn't clean anything a rubbie.
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Speaker 1: It was so expensive.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, uses half a tube of toothpaste. Did you notice
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Speaker 3: that as well? Tip? Because I got one. It's not
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Speaker 3: like I recommended it to you, you know, as a
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Speaker 3: guinea pig, I did the same bloody thing and spit
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Speaker 3: my dough on it as well.
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Speaker 1: Can I just point out how lazy are you when
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Speaker 1: you can't actually fucking brush your teeth? Like, let's try
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Speaker 1: and find an energy saving device so I don't have
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Speaker 1: to do all that up and down inside to side
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Speaker 1: because oh I'm so tired. Oh my god. Well, t
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Speaker 1: if I hope you don't fall asleep at any time
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Speaker 1: that's inconvenient today, Patrick, you have no problem sleeping. I
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Speaker 1: would imagine you'd be a solid sleeper.
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Speaker 3: Now I get to getting to sleep is never a problem.
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Speaker 3: I've fallen asleep during a Root Canal and during an
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Speaker 3: ACDC concert, not at the same time, of course, But
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Speaker 3: I have no problem getting to sleep. It's just that
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Speaker 3: I sleep in a block of five hours and that's it.
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Speaker 3: So that's my I can try to get back to
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Speaker 3: sleep again an occasional than I do. But we've got
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Speaker 3: a really interesting story coming up about sleep. By the way,
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Speaker 3: I talked about it later, but yeah, interestingly, But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I struggle. What about you, Craig? What's your sleeping habits?
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Speaker 1: I've so pretty good, but I have this really bad
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Speaker 1: habit of drinking an abundance of water after dinner, which
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Speaker 1: is good, not really, No, I don't do that everyone,
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Speaker 1: And then I my prostate is okay, by the way, everybody,
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Speaker 1: just in case you're asking, that could be the title
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Speaker 1: of the show. All right, don't panic prostrates.
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Speaker 3: What are you doing with your hand? Just then? I
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Speaker 3: hope you will.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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Speaker 3: It looks like you I don't know, hide you?
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Speaker 1: Where's my hands are in front of me? Where's your
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Speaker 1: prostate in your fucking belly button? You might have to
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Speaker 1: get yourself an anatomy chart, you know, you know. I
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Speaker 1: don't try to step too much into your space. And
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Speaker 1: clearly my Spader's space is prostate science. So fucking hell,
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Speaker 1: where are we going? You know, when you said the
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Speaker 1: only time I've what did you say, I've fallen asleep
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Speaker 1: during a route? And then you said canal on the end?
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Speaker 1: I wanted to jump in, but you just kept fucking talking.
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Speaker 1: Because I'm going to wind it back. Let's talk about technology,
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Speaker 1: because that's why you're here. Let's make you earn your
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Speaker 1: four dollars aviation.
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Speaker 3: You were about to tell us what happens when you
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Speaker 3: wake up on something. There was a crucial part.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get out. I'd probably wee three times
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Speaker 1: a night, but I should stop drinking at six pm.
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Speaker 1: But I seem to drink more after dinner than I
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Speaker 1: do or not for the whole day. But yeah, I drink,
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Speaker 1: So I just yeah, I just I was just watch
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Speaker 1: Telly or something, and I'll have a cup of tea,
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Speaker 1: then I'll drink a bit of water. Then I have
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Speaker 1: another cup of tea, and I'm doing some work, and
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Speaker 1: then I have a cup of bloody or another. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I just drink too much, but I kind of enjoy
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Speaker 1: it because I don't drink drink Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I probably drink four or five litters a day of
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Speaker 1: stuff like none of it's bad stuff. But yeah, oh
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Speaker 1: that's not true. I have the I have the odd
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Speaker 1: diet coke. Call the cops, everyone, I have the odd
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Speaker 1: diet coke. Go on, mate.
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Speaker 3: No, I was just gonna say, I wish I could
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Speaker 3: drink as much as that. I'm awful. I forget to drink.
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Speaker 3: It's I don't I need reminders or something.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what colors you wi have a look
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Speaker 1: at your color, can have a look at your color,
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Speaker 1: which is beautiful yellow. It's not lighter than that or
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Speaker 1: darker than that.
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Speaker 3: It's look, it's probably a little bit lighter than that.
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Speaker 3: But I'm conscious that I should be drinking probably another
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Speaker 3: leader or snow water.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's probably leaning in thinking, thank fuck, he's talking about
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Speaker 1: we after the recent Pooh conversations, and then Patrick falling
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Speaker 1: asleep during a route. Yeah, and then TIFF's body that's
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Speaker 1: not sleeping and not working, so she's loaded up on
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Speaker 1: some bodybuilding extravaganza, thinking that that research that she got
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Speaker 1: from Instagram is full on reliable. No, there is actual
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Speaker 1: research suggesting that that can compensate for a poor night's sleep.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do it continuously though. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: what you're jumping around? Then we're going to come back
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Speaker 1: to Patrick, what's your daily because a lot of people
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Speaker 1: ask me about Credtein what's your daily tip? Is it
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Speaker 1: ten grams?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I'll do ten grams.
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Speaker 1: Well, there is a lot of, let's just say, supporting
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Speaker 1: evidence which is not to say it's absolute, unequivocal fact,
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Speaker 1: but there is a lot of supporting evidence so that
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Speaker 1: CREA team has a significant cognitive as in brain impact,
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Speaker 1: it's a bit of a neotropic, and neotropic is something
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Speaker 1: that helps you think better and focus and remember and
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Speaker 1: stay present with whatever you're doing. And my anecdotal evidence
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Speaker 1: is yes, for me, that definitely helps. But that's an
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Speaker 1: equals one. That's not science. That's just my experience and
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Speaker 1: Tiff so maybe n equals too. Patrick, he's over there,
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Speaker 1: just buddy, trying to find things online that might help him.
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Speaker 1: Patrick tell us about Japan entering the supersonic race, because
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Speaker 1: I tell you what, if that doesn't get people up
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Speaker 1: and about that topic and on the edge of their seat,
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Speaker 1: nothing will well.
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Speaker 3: The tyranny of distance in Australia is something that we've
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Speaker 3: all had to cope with if we've gone on long
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Speaker 3: overseas holidays. So whether we're flying to Asia or Europe
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Speaker 3: or the North America, it takes a bloody long time
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Speaker 3: to go anywhere in Australia. So at the moment there's
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Speaker 3: the concord was around and then it disappeared, and of
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Speaker 3: course we don't have any supersonic or hypersonic jets, but
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Speaker 3: researchers in Japan at the moment are looking at going
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Speaker 3: supersonic and they've managed to tear new engine type. It's
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Speaker 3: a ramjet engine, which will roughly take them to a
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Speaker 3: speed of over six thousand kilometers an hour, so MAC
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Speaker 3: five that's a massive fast speed. We're talking in terms
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Speaker 3: of distance and duration. If you wanted to fly from
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Speaker 3: Melbourne to New York over sixteen thousand kilometers, it'd just
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Speaker 3: been two hours and forty four minutes.
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Speaker 1: That's incredible. Yeah, that's like almost bridging the gap between
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Speaker 1: getting on a bloody seven four seven and space travel.
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Speaker 1: It's like in the middle, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: It certainly is Melbourne to London about two hours and
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Speaker 3: forty six minutes, which is phenomenal because at the moment,
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Speaker 3: if you wanted to go to London, you're talking between
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Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty eight hours with transits and all
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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. It's a long way to go.
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Speaker 3: And if you could save all that time, goodness knows
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Speaker 3: how expensive it'll be. But because the moment, it's become
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Speaker 3: a bit of a holy grail again, trying to get
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Speaker 3: from A to B and look, it'd be great if
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Speaker 3: they can do that, particularly for us here who have
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Speaker 3: to do that long haul travel.
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Speaker 1: Imagine going to Sydney from Melbourn. You just click your
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Speaker 1: seat belt on and then you'd have to unclick it.
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Speaker 1: You just have to pull your bag down again.
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Speaker 3: I think that'd be an interesting one because the problem
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Speaker 3: is the sonic boom. But they're trying to work a
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Speaker 3: way around that as well, because the sonic boom is
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Speaker 3: what was problematic with the Concord, where a lot of
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Speaker 3: countries banned it from flying over land and over cities
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Speaker 3: because of the noise of sonic boom. Makes so they
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Speaker 3: were able to fly, say across the oceans and go
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Speaker 3: at those really fast speeds. The other thing is the
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Speaker 3: idea of being hypersonic. We could potentially go up into
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Speaker 3: the atmosphere and then come back down again and take
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Speaker 3: the advantage of the rotation of the Earth as well
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Speaker 3: into account.
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Speaker 1: Now does hypersonic or supersonic Does that just mean above
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Speaker 1: the speed of sound? What does that mean?
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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, supersonic. So that's exactly right.
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Speaker 1: That's greater than one mark, is it?
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Speaker 3: Mac yep ma mac. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And so you said that the technology with the Japanese
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Speaker 1: or the potential Japanese plane is potentially capable of Mac five.
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Speaker 1: What was that? I feel like the concord was just
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Speaker 1: Mac one and a bit.
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Speaker 3: It was nearly Mac two actually right, yeah, yeah. It's
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Speaker 3: maximum cruising speed was two one and seventy nine kilometers
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Speaker 3: an hour, which was basically Mac two.
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Speaker 1: I'm imagining they wouldn't be giving away those tickets. I'm
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Speaker 1: imagining that might be a fair hit on the old
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Speaker 1: hip pocket.
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Speaker 3: But people will pay it. People will pay it. Saving
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Speaker 3: time time is money.
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Speaker 1: Time is money. I lost my thing? Can you go
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Speaker 1: to the next thing because I lost my thing? Oh
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Speaker 1: my god, you'll be to debt.
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Speaker 3: Oh he's lost his steed Ony Tith. The right to
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Speaker 3: repair has been coming up a lot. We've spoken added
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Speaker 3: a little bit in relation to electronic devices. So do
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Speaker 3: you remember when your phone's about ten years ago? Phones
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Speaker 3: came with batteries that can swap out, So I always
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Speaker 3: had a spare battery from a phone battery got flat,
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Speaker 3: take the old battery output the new battery. In the
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Speaker 3: argument from a lot of the phone manufacturers was that
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Speaker 3: effectively the reason for that is that we could seal
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Speaker 3: the phones up and they were more waterproof, was one
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Speaker 3: of the arguments. But effectively it means that if a
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Speaker 3: device breaks, you've got to go back to the manufacturer.
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Speaker 3: They charge a lot of money. Apple has always had
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Speaker 3: a bad reputation for being very expensive, so legislation overseas,
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Speaker 3: particularly in the EU, has been this right to repair
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Speaker 3: on electronic devices. And now the CEO of Ford has
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Speaker 3: come in on the argument, basically saying that Ford cars
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Speaker 3: and all new cars, people should not be allowed or
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Speaker 3: should be you know, should not be able to repair
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Speaker 3: their own vehicle. So once upon a time, craigo, you know,
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Speaker 3: you take the spark plugs out, put some new spark
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Speaker 3: plugs in. All that sort of stuff. The CEO of
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Speaker 3: Ford has come out and basically said NAHN people are
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Speaker 3: basically too dumb to know how to do that and
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Speaker 3: it needs to be in the hands of experts. But
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Speaker 3: the frustration around this is potentially what this could mean
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Speaker 3: is that repair shops around the corner if you didn't
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Speaker 3: want to go to the branded company that manufactured your vehicle.
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Speaker 3: You know, in Australia, you can still have a warranty
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Speaker 3: by going to the local repairer and youreity isn't made void.
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Speaker 3: That's legislated in Australia. But Jim Fartley, who's the CEO
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Speaker 3: of Ford, has basically said, nah, cars are too complicated
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Speaker 3: now people shouldn't be allowed to touch the inside of
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Speaker 3: their cars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Jim, fuck off, Fuck right off, Jim. We
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Speaker 1: know exactly what you're doing and it's not genuine care
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Speaker 1: for anybody other than the success of your own organization
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Speaker 1: and bank balance. So fuck off. It's been working all
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Speaker 1: right for the last one hundred years with Brian up
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Speaker 1: at the CO. I want to fixing my Valiant, So
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Speaker 1: you fuck off. That's what I think. Patrick, Yeah, not
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Speaker 1: about Craigo. Yeah, too much sleep tif, So this could
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Speaker 1: be a good thing for you. Too much sleep might
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Speaker 1: aid your body faster. Well, you could be ten years
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Speaker 1: younger by tomorrow if you don't sleep again.
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Speaker 3: Well there's a sweet spot, Craiger. Unfortunately it's too much
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Speaker 3: or too little. There's this kind of there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of research going into obviously how important sleep is. And
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Speaker 3: there was an article published in Nature magazine and they
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Speaker 3: looked at a whole lot of data using a bit
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Speaker 3: of AI and it was the UK Biobank data. So
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Speaker 3: five hundred thousand participants, effectively is where the research came from.
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Speaker 3: And what they looked at was the structure of the
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Speaker 3: internal organs organs, so it was basically our biological clock
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Speaker 3: relating to what's happening inside our system. And they found
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Speaker 3: that the healthiest cellular aging profiles were people who maintained
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Speaker 3: between six point four and seven point eight hours of
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Speaker 3: sleep per night.
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Speaker 1: Two, what are you pumping there for? You average six
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Speaker 1: point four minutes?
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Speaker 2: No, that's where that's where my average seems to fall.
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Speaker 1: I think you just brought that about.
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Speaker 2: Pretty wild swings. So I was bragging about eight hours
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Speaker 2: and forty minutes the previous night.
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Speaker 1: That is fascinating, Patrick, firstly, and the fact that you
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Speaker 1: refer to bioage and biological age of cells and all
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Speaker 1: of that is perfect and lovely. The only thing we
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Speaker 1: don't want people You've got to think is that, oh,
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Speaker 1: that is that is the number of hours I need?
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Speaker 1: Because while that might be based on five hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: or fifty thousand people that might be the average, there
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Speaker 1: will be many people for whom nine hours is optimal.
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Speaker 1: Some people, for Hume five five and a half hours.
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Speaker 1: I think I said, Hume is possible. So this is
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Speaker 1: this is the problem. It's like when we go oh,
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Speaker 1: most people respond or the sweet spot for predniss alone
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Speaker 1: is ten milligrams a day, depending on the bah bah
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Speaker 1: it is. It is interesting and I think generally that's
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Speaker 1: probably about the right amount for a lot of people.
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Speaker 1: But there are other people like kids who need ten
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Speaker 1: hours a day, you know, and some older people. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's a point where, like I reckon, I don't need
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Speaker 1: as much sleep as I used to have. But then
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Speaker 1: you get older, older, and then like I reckon, my
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Speaker 1: old man sleeps eighteen hours a day at the moment,
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Speaker 1: people get to a point in their life where but
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Speaker 1: that is interesting. What's your optimal number? Do you reckon?
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Speaker 1: Just anecdotally where you feel pretty good?
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Speaker 3: Seven?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to feel the same, oh, I.
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Speaker 2: Reckon, I'd like I fall on an average of seven ish,
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Speaker 2: but I think seven for eight would probably have me flying.
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Speaker 1: But also, there's been a lot of sleep coming up
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Speaker 1: in the last three episodes. We spoke about this thing, Patrick, people.
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Speaker 3: Falling asleep during the episodes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the time. It's exactly what I meant.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry to hear that, mate, Yeah, sorry.
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Speaker 1: Hours of snoring. I hang on, I'll just sew up
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Speaker 1: my slides, my sides.
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Speaker 3: You know a lot of you can wait while you
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Speaker 3: go and load up on creat scene if you like, creg.
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Speaker 1: Tell you what I'm copying it today, I'll probably deserve it.
18:41
Speaker 1: Humans prefer to walk anti clockwise. Why do we need
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Speaker 1: to know this? Scientists find, but the reason is unclear.
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Speaker 3: Do go on this interesting? Okay? When you go for
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Speaker 3: your walk in the morning, you step out of your
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Speaker 3: front door, right, you go out towards the street, you
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Speaker 3: turn left or right.
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Speaker 1: It depends, you know if well, it depends where I'm going, like,
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Speaker 1: it's based on my destinations, so there's no arbitrary direction.
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Speaker 3: But you like to go for your wandering walks around
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Speaker 3: the suburbs, creeping people out. My friends are testaments to
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Speaker 3: this because they see you walking past their house.
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Speaker 1: How is me just walking around suburbia creeping people out?
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Speaker 1: Very hurtful today, you're very nasty today. Everyone thinks you
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Speaker 1: this fucking lovely. I do yoga, I teach yoga. Chee,
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Speaker 1: same fucking potatoes, potatoes. Well you put on a fright
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Speaker 1: on the ground, walk.
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Speaker 3: And left, walk and right, same thing. Ye.
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Speaker 1: Look, if I'm gonna honestly, probably if I'm just going
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Speaker 1: random for a walk, I might go right. But that's clockwise,
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Speaker 1: isn't it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah it is clockwise.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that fucks that way.
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Speaker 3: Hey, this is you know my famous really interesting Historically,
19:58
Speaker 3: right comfort level was recognized as in most people tend
20:02
Speaker 3: if they were just walking around, they tend to go
20:05
Speaker 3: anti clockwise. And this was a study that kind of
20:08
Speaker 3: came up during COVID, originally in the university University in Spain,
20:13
Speaker 3: so during the pandemic they were observing the way people
20:15
Speaker 3: kind of moved and drifted to the left when they
20:18
Speaker 3: were walking, and then they copated that with an additional
20:21
Speaker 3: research study that was done in Japan to try to say, well,
20:25
Speaker 3: is this something that we've noticed. But historically, in nineteen thirteen,
20:31
Speaker 3: the laws of athletics were permanently changed right by the
20:35
Speaker 3: Olympic Committee to make people run counter you know, from
20:41
Speaker 3: clockwise to counterclockwise permanently, so when they ran at event,
20:45
Speaker 3: it has to be run. And they recognized the people
20:48
Speaker 3: were more comfortable running counterclockwise.
20:52
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's got to do with the fact
20:54
Speaker 1: that the predominance of human beings ninety percent are right
20:57
Speaker 1: handed ergo right footed when you when you hang on,
21:02
Speaker 1: don't fucking stay nutt.
21:04
Speaker 3: You don't know that.
21:06
Speaker 1: Stop talking over the top of people. You don't know
21:09
Speaker 1: the totality of the science because you read a fucking
21:12
Speaker 1: paragraph online. Fucking hell, get yourself in check, Champ, go
21:17
Speaker 1: back to that humility workshop, pull your head in a bit,
21:20
Speaker 1: and just let people have a conversation. Now, I think
21:24
Speaker 1: my suggestion is not unreasonable, Patrick, Okay, I think that
21:28
Speaker 1: what is the what is the alleged reason.
21:31
Speaker 3: The spatial phenomenon persisted regardless of gender, right handedness, right footedness,
21:36
Speaker 3: or eye dominance?
21:38
Speaker 1: All right, so I was wrong? Ah see, I can owner.
21:45
Speaker 1: I still think that might have something to do with it.
21:47
Speaker 1: But it is interesting.
21:49
Speaker 3: Children are more likely to go left as well. A
21:52
Speaker 3: little younger children are more likely to fall into this
21:55
Speaker 3: pattern as well.
21:56
Speaker 1: But we don't know the reason. That's that's the that
21:59
Speaker 1: is that is more interesting than I thought it was
22:02
Speaker 1: going to be.
22:03
Speaker 3: The thing. The other thing with the study is that
22:06
Speaker 3: it also can help dictate and improve commercial architectural designs
22:12
Speaker 3: and layouts to kind of make people feel more comfortable
22:15
Speaker 3: if you kind of around to the left. You know,
22:18
Speaker 3: one of the interesting things traveling overseas. Is I keep
22:21
Speaker 3: you bump into people constantly because we in Australia drift
22:25
Speaker 3: to the left hand side of a footpath. Have you
22:27
Speaker 3: noticed that when you travel ever?
22:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, people going to ask you about that. Yeah, what
22:34
Speaker 1: is that? What is the unwritten law in Australia? Is
22:37
Speaker 1: it that you kind of got to walk to the left.
22:40
Speaker 3: Yes, it's an unwritten law. It's an observed law because
22:43
Speaker 3: every year when I was working for many years at
22:45
Speaker 3: the Australian Open Tennis, we would use the stairwell because
22:50
Speaker 3: it was the elevator was so slow. I would go
22:53
Speaker 3: six flights of stairs by the stairwell because it was
22:57
Speaker 3: just not worth trying to get into the lift. And
23:00
Speaker 3: you know, and a foreign national is coming down the
23:03
Speaker 3: stairs because they were always on the wrong side of
23:06
Speaker 3: the stair where consistently and it was always shuffling around.
23:10
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a definite phenomena.
23:14
Speaker 1: Or the odd person from the UK on the right
23:16
Speaker 1: side or on the correct side for US. Yep, that
23:20
Speaker 1: is that is a kind of an interesting social phenomena
23:25
Speaker 1: when you don't even think about it. And yeah, the
23:28
Speaker 1: times that I've been to the States are even on
23:31
Speaker 1: the road. I'm hopeless. I drove from I drove from
23:36
Speaker 1: Louisiana to Florida. I nearly killed everybody about eight times.
23:42
Speaker 1: It took a while.
23:43
Speaker 3: Well, I've spent a lot of time in Canada, my
23:45
Speaker 3: brother lives there, and crossing the street is diabolical. You've
23:48
Speaker 3: got to look and look and look, because you know,
23:50
Speaker 3: look to the left with the right, look at the
23:51
Speaker 3: left again. That doesn't work when you're in North America
23:54
Speaker 3: and the cars or on the other side of the road,
23:56
Speaker 3: because you just don't expect the cars to be coming
23:59
Speaker 3: from the direction that coming.
24:02
Speaker 1: Tell me about eyes up, screens down. Victoria restricts tech
24:06
Speaker 1: and high school classrooms to two hours a day.
24:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Education Minister Ben Carroll, he's just mandated all
24:15
Speaker 3: public high schools need to now transition to device free
24:20
Speaker 3: learning start writing. So from term one next year, there'll
24:24
Speaker 3: be more writing in schools than looking at screens. That
24:28
Speaker 3: sounds to me like a pretty bloody good idea. We
24:31
Speaker 3: know that handwriting something down when you're learning helps kind
24:36
Speaker 3: of map it to your brain and helps write it
24:38
Speaker 3: to the mental hard drive, and so that's now being
24:41
Speaker 3: adopted formally at all Victorian schools, which I think is
24:43
Speaker 3: pretty good.
24:45
Speaker 1: I like it. I don't know how useful it's going
24:48
Speaker 1: to be moving forward over time, but I'm with you.
24:51
Speaker 1: I really like it for the brain reason. And also
24:54
Speaker 1: there's no auto correct, there's no spell check, there's just
24:58
Speaker 1: you and a pen and a bit of paper. So
25:00
Speaker 1: you've got to like even Tiff and I have spoken
25:04
Speaker 1: about this, but even like simple spelling. And this is
25:08
Speaker 1: not a slight on younger people, but they didn't grow
25:10
Speaker 1: up in the like we literally had spelling tests all
25:14
Speaker 1: the time. We had math tests all the time. Where yeah,
25:18
Speaker 1: the most like when you don't need to know how
25:21
Speaker 1: to spell something because your phone corrects it for you,
25:24
Speaker 1: then you don't really develop that skill. So maybe that's
25:27
Speaker 1: a disappearing skill that might come back a little bit.
25:31
Speaker 3: M what's your take, Tiff? Is that he is for
25:34
Speaker 3: you get rid of the screens and do more handwriting.
25:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely would be on board with that.
25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you should all right on whiteboards with whiteboard markers,
25:49
Speaker 1: whiteboard lessons.
25:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't it interesting that for us you and I Craig,
25:55
Speaker 3: probably not, Tiff. We grew up with blackboards, not whiteboards,
26:00
Speaker 3: and there was some research that was done a few
26:02
Speaker 3: years ago into the learning ability of people from our
26:06
Speaker 3: generation who respond better to light text on a dark
26:11
Speaker 3: background because that's how we learned to learn, whereas younger
26:15
Speaker 3: generations are the flip side because it used to whiteboards
26:19
Speaker 3: where they've got a white background and lots of colors
26:21
Speaker 3: and things like that.
26:23
Speaker 1: I was listened to a chat yesterday on a podcast
26:25
Speaker 1: now were talking about I didn't even know it still existed.
26:28
Speaker 1: But in the States, in the school system. I don't
26:31
Speaker 1: know if it's nationally or it was in a particular state.
26:33
Speaker 1: I think it was nationally. They've they've cut cursive writing
26:37
Speaker 1: from the syllabus. Yeah, is that even still a thing
26:42
Speaker 1: in Australia? Likes that's not taught right because don't like
26:47
Speaker 1: don't we all just print now? Like yeah, like we
26:51
Speaker 1: were taught to you know that. Do you know what
26:54
Speaker 1: cursive writing is? Di if you know that flowing? I
26:56
Speaker 1: do remember Grandma and granddad. Yeah, we had to learn
27:01
Speaker 1: to write cursively as well as just print normally. So
27:05
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that still exists in Australia.
27:08
Speaker 1: Patrick's researching it right now.
27:11
Speaker 3: It's pretty vague. Evidently, I was looking at an article
27:13
Speaker 3: by a lady by the name of Alison Clark, and
27:17
Speaker 3: it's not known about the importance of cursive writing over printing,
27:20
Speaker 3: but it produces simple handwriting, movement writing or drawing experiments
27:24
Speaker 3: with pencils, writing implements that they looked at all that
27:26
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. But I think I'm going to have
27:28
Speaker 3: to spend a lot of time reading this article. But yeah,
27:32
Speaker 3: I think maybe, yeah, let's research this before the end
27:34
Speaker 3: of the show. Tip, what do you think?
27:35
Speaker 1: Can you ask Chatters if cursive writing is still taught
27:39
Speaker 1: in Australian schools please we'll come back to it. Patrick.
27:43
Speaker 1: The Swiss army knife like surgical robot that fits on
27:48
Speaker 1: your fingertip. Let me say that again. Swiss army knife
27:52
Speaker 1: like surgical robot that fits on your fingertip. Let's get
27:55
Speaker 1: one of those.
27:56
Speaker 3: Yeah. So in Singapore, the Niang Technological University engineers have
28:04
Speaker 3: come up with a what they're calling a five in
28:07
Speaker 3: one surgical robot. So it just measures four point four millimeters,
28:11
Speaker 3: so tiny little thing and it's basically forthought. The beauty
28:17
Speaker 3: of this is it performs multiple functions, so it may
28:20
Speaker 3: be able to cut but could also dispense medication as well.
28:25
Speaker 3: It doesn't have batteries or wires. I think they use
28:28
Speaker 3: it magnetically, so it's powered magnetically externally. So you would
28:32
Speaker 3: you know how you can use wireless charges for your phone.
28:36
Speaker 3: You just sit it on top of the charging device.
28:40
Speaker 3: But it can switch between all those five function states
28:42
Speaker 3: in less than a second. So and it's magnetic fields
28:46
Speaker 3: that powers it and makes it do its things. So
28:48
Speaker 3: it's and it's made from silicon polymers as well. So
28:52
Speaker 3: it's going to be kind of interesting to think of.
28:55
Speaker 3: I mean, this is really high tech when you think
28:57
Speaker 3: about it. You know, launching a little robot going into
28:59
Speaker 3: your syste and not having to worry about large incisions.
29:03
Speaker 3: This could be the future of the way we get
29:05
Speaker 3: operated on.
29:07
Speaker 1: Do you know what, I'm a fucking idiot, you know what?
29:10
Speaker 1: That is true? Right? And then I'm like, oh, that
29:13
Speaker 1: wasn't what I got. Like I read the thing they
29:16
Speaker 1: fit on your fingertip, so I was thinking of something
29:19
Speaker 1: that sits on the top of your finger. I'm like,
29:22
Speaker 1: but how do you actually you know, operationalize that. No,
29:26
Speaker 1: it's just right. You pick the surgical robot that would
29:30
Speaker 1: fit in terms of size on your fingertip.
29:34
Speaker 3: Now I think you're like picking noose and then it
29:36
Speaker 3: goes into your nasal cavity and works its way to
29:38
Speaker 3: wherever it needs to go. Maybe that's it.
29:40
Speaker 1: Well, can you explain to me, I don't know if
29:42
Speaker 1: it's in front of you, but how do they deploy
29:44
Speaker 1: those robots and where?
29:47
Speaker 3: No, that've only doesn't like laboratory testing at the moment
29:51
Speaker 3: on gelatine tissue models and chicken vers right, Okay, so
29:57
Speaker 3: it's been a little successfully cut. It can deploy drugs.
30:01
Speaker 3: It can do samples as well, So if you needed
30:04
Speaker 3: to do a biopsy, you would send the little robot in.
30:06
Speaker 3: It would grab the sample, put it into a collection area.
30:09
Speaker 3: And that's so that's at the moment. They just haven't
30:12
Speaker 3: deployed it in a human being.
30:14
Speaker 1: What about this as a potential TIF where company? You
30:16
Speaker 1: read the cursive writing in one minute? So stand by Patrick?
30:21
Speaker 1: What about this? So people have their little tiny robot
30:25
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the military, So it's four millimeters or whatever.
30:29
Speaker 1: They carry that into active duty with them, and then
30:36
Speaker 1: when they get injured, that gets I don't know, they're
30:40
Speaker 1: messaged if they're still in a or it's message back
30:43
Speaker 1: to base and then they deploy their little robot on
30:45
Speaker 1: them in the battlefield. I have a very good imagination,
30:49
Speaker 1: you're right, and then it does some surgery in real time,
30:53
Speaker 1: driven by a doctor back here. No, no, no, all.
31:00
Speaker 3: Right, now that you're right. International Space Station if someone,
31:04
Speaker 3: I mean think about it, if you had to do
31:06
Speaker 3: urgent surgery on the International Space Station, you could do
31:10
Speaker 3: that via like wirelessly, couldn't you? That'd be great.
31:13
Speaker 1: Well, they're doing remote surgery now, as in people you know,
31:17
Speaker 1: like doctors who are hundreds of kilometers or thousands away.
31:21
Speaker 1: Can do you know? People go into a surgical theater
31:24
Speaker 1: where there's a robot for one of a technology and
31:28
Speaker 1: it's being driven for one of better term or operated
31:32
Speaker 1: by somebody somewhere else. So you know which is fucking
31:36
Speaker 1: mind buoing, tiff? What's the writing story?
31:40
Speaker 2: Yes, The current Australian curriculum expects students to progress from
31:44
Speaker 2: unjoined letters to join handwriting to develop a fluent, legible
31:47
Speaker 2: handwriting style. However, most Australian states use a form of
31:52
Speaker 2: modern cursive rather than the ornate Victorian style cursive that
31:57
Speaker 2: Craig Harper and other adults may remember.
32:01
Speaker 1: Old people, remember, did you used to write cursively, Patty.
32:05
Speaker 3: I still write cursively with a fountain pen. You know
32:08
Speaker 3: this because you've taken the piss out of me many times.
32:12
Speaker 1: That is good. And how's your nine eighty Sorry, you're
32:17
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty eight Smith and Wesson revolver going in the
32:21
Speaker 1: top drawer next to your.
32:24
Speaker 3: Come over at two am in the morning and find out. Greg.
32:28
Speaker 1: Come on, you told me you leave your front door open.
32:30
Speaker 1: I'm glad you've stopped doing that.
32:32
Speaker 3: My flintlock pistol, I'll have that loaded at about five minutes.
32:39
Speaker 1: That is funny. I like the fact that because I'm
32:42
Speaker 1: very much in the middle of dealing with you know,
32:46
Speaker 1: age care and old people and all the challenges that
32:51
Speaker 1: go on in that space. In Korea, South Korea specifically,
32:56
Speaker 1: they are using AI dolls to care for the elderly.
33:01
Speaker 3: Oh.
33:01
Speaker 1: I could say something very funny here regarding my own situation,
33:05
Speaker 1: but I don't want to get in trouble, so I
33:07
Speaker 1: won't tell us about that. Mate.
33:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is becoming really a problem in Asia, in
33:15
Speaker 3: a lot of countries, and I guess in Australia as well,
33:18
Speaker 3: with a rapidly aging population. And what I mean by
33:22
Speaker 3: that is there are kids kind of coming along, but
33:24
Speaker 3: of course there are some In a lot of families
33:26
Speaker 3: there are just one child. So we're getting this like
33:29
Speaker 3: top heavy situation, whether a lot more older people than
33:33
Speaker 3: young people. But what that also means is that it's
33:36
Speaker 3: more difficult and people are living alone, they're isolated, and
33:41
Speaker 3: you know, the saddest thing, and this is one of
33:42
Speaker 3: the quoted references in the article, is what they're calling
33:46
Speaker 3: lonely deaths, you know, where people die alone in their homes.
33:50
Speaker 3: And so fourteen thousand and five hundred hydroll dolls have
33:57
Speaker 3: been deployed in nursing homes and in programs all over
34:01
Speaker 3: South Korea. And what they are is basically, they're an
34:06
Speaker 3: AI powered smart doll that they can cuddle and they
34:10
Speaker 3: can interact with. And it's for seniors who are living alone.
34:14
Speaker 1: I would have thought that was crap two years ago.
34:18
Speaker 1: I think for some people it would be amazingly effective
34:22
Speaker 1: because that for a lot of really is my recent experience,
34:28
Speaker 1: a lot of really old people who are heading towards
34:30
Speaker 1: the finish line. There, you know, their perception of what
34:35
Speaker 1: is real and their understanding of what is real changes,
34:38
Speaker 1: and and if you know, I think all of this
34:42
Speaker 1: AI stuff, like if you believe that it cares about you,
34:45
Speaker 1: if you believe that you have a relationship with it,
34:48
Speaker 1: if you believed, potentially even that you're loved by it,
34:52
Speaker 1: then that experience for you, I guess, becomes real. You know.
34:58
Speaker 1: So I'm not mad at it. I would like to
35:00
Speaker 1: see it in action. But what do you think, Tiff?
35:03
Speaker 1: What do you think about that your dad's getting on?
35:06
Speaker 1: He's not near the Ron and Mary stage, but what
35:10
Speaker 1: would you what do you think? Yeah, he's not there yet,
35:15
Speaker 1: but he will be one day.
35:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's interesting. It's interesting, and I think
35:20
Speaker 2: because of the way I see older people relate differently
35:25
Speaker 2: to how they understand AI and tech. So I think,
35:29
Speaker 2: I don't know.
35:30
Speaker 1: Patrick, Can I ask you a related question? Patrick, So
35:35
Speaker 1: you've spoken quite a few times about your brother who's
35:39
Speaker 1: got special needs. I feel like what I feel like
35:43
Speaker 1: that might not be a terrible fit in some cases too.
35:46
Speaker 1: What do you think about him being like obviously supported
35:49
Speaker 1: by you and his family? But how would would that work?
35:54
Speaker 3: Absolutely? It would because these AI companions, they have a
35:57
Speaker 3: cartoon voice. They have What can do is remind people
36:01
Speaker 3: to take medication, remind you to eat meals have cognitive routines,
36:06
Speaker 3: so try to keep you in your routine. When they
36:08
Speaker 3: notice that you're not doing what you should be doing,
36:10
Speaker 3: brush your teeth. And I think that would work really well.
36:13
Speaker 3: You know what it would be for my little brother.
36:15
Speaker 3: He loved Doctor Who and whenever we talk and I'll
36:18
Speaker 3: see I'm seeing him tomorrow, he always gets to do
36:21
Speaker 3: an impression of a Dalek. He laughs his head off.
36:24
Speaker 3: So he call me out of the blue and say hey, darlk,
36:28
Speaker 3: and I'll just say, like, exterminate in a Dalek voice,
36:31
Speaker 3: and then he hangs up because pick himself laughing like
36:34
Speaker 3: he would, just to get me to do voice. I know,
36:37
Speaker 3: do you want to do the dark voice for you?
36:40
Speaker 1: Yes? I do ext extra.
36:45
Speaker 3: Anybody that's bad, isn't it. But anybody who's a Doctor
36:48
Speaker 3: Who fan will realize that is what a Dalek sounds like.
36:51
Speaker 3: That's that what bothered me.
36:52
Speaker 1: What bothered me more than the voice was the enthusiasm
36:55
Speaker 1: with which you do it.
36:57
Speaker 3: Well, I was pretending you're my brother.
37:00
Speaker 1: It's probably he likes God bless you, brother. There's probably
37:03
Speaker 1: not that big a gap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd like
37:08
Speaker 1: c three po just scooting around my house or No,
37:10
Speaker 1: maybe R two D two, although maybe he would struggle
37:14
Speaker 1: with the stairs, so maybe C three PO that'd be good.
37:17
Speaker 1: Who if do you know who either of those are?
37:20
Speaker 2: I've heard of R two D two, but I did
37:22
Speaker 2: know not.
37:23
Speaker 1: Really, you're so missed out. If you're so missed out
37:26
Speaker 1: on some of the most important scientific breakthroughs ever.
37:30
Speaker 3: If do you can you think of any sci fi
37:32
Speaker 3: robot at all? Does that when I say robot and
37:35
Speaker 3: sci fi, does anything come to mind at all?
37:38
Speaker 2: No?
37:40
Speaker 3: Would Canine? Would you know who Canine was?
37:45
Speaker 1: Was it not? Was Canine not a dog in a
37:49
Speaker 1: series that were robot?
37:51
Speaker 3: Dogbot?
37:52
Speaker 1: Yeah?
37:52
Speaker 3: I wanted Canine. I can't tell you how much I
37:55
Speaker 3: desperately wanted a robot.
37:56
Speaker 1: We just go to MIT because they're real now bro,
38:01
Speaker 1: literally seventy grand you can have your own robot dog.
38:05
Speaker 1: And they're weaponizing them now too, so they're sending them in. Yeah,
38:10
Speaker 1: they're literally obviously not for home use. Yeah, go and
38:15
Speaker 1: blow up that fucking neighbor, will you.
38:18
Speaker 3: Wessn and have my dog sitting next to my bed,
38:21
Speaker 3: and then when someone tries to get into the house,
38:23
Speaker 3: I can deploy my robot dog. Is that what your saying, well.
38:27
Speaker 1: When that robot dog visits your joint, let's just say
38:29
Speaker 1: that Fritz is fuked. He'll get shot in the face
38:35
Speaker 1: as he tries to go and lick the stranger. No,
38:38
Speaker 1: he won't.
38:41
Speaker 3: When they fire their weapon, do they lift their leg?
38:43
Speaker 3: Is that how they deploy their ownment? No?
38:46
Speaker 1: I think they need the most stability they can get.
38:49
Speaker 1: Indian workers are training AI robots to take their own jobs.
38:53
Speaker 1: Why would they.
38:54
Speaker 3: Do that because they've been paid to do it. Yeah,
38:57
Speaker 3: they're being paid basically taking employing people. So they're employing them.
39:03
Speaker 3: They're what they call informal workers, and they basically recruit them,
39:07
Speaker 3: and they're called ego centric data. So sorry, ergo, that'd
39:11
Speaker 3: be ergo, wouldn't it. Yeah.
39:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
39:14
Speaker 3: So it's basically first person video recordings to train the
39:18
Speaker 3: next generation of human systems. So they just perform a
39:21
Speaker 3: whole lot of different functions and they record everything they do,
39:24
Speaker 3: their movements, and they're now using that to train robots.
39:27
Speaker 3: And they're only getting paid two dollars ninety two dollars
39:29
Speaker 3: sixty an hour, So they're getting paid bugger all to
39:32
Speaker 3: do this, and effectively it means and they have this
39:35
Speaker 3: like a head mounted smartphone device to film everything that
39:39
Speaker 3: they do. So it could be things like you know,
39:41
Speaker 3: doing general chores around the house to be able to
39:44
Speaker 3: record that and then that gets used and digitized and
39:47
Speaker 3: that way they can train AI to do the same thing.
39:51
Speaker 1: Awesome, we need that hover Air Aqua arrives globally with
39:56
Speaker 1: a feature that no DJI, which I think is you
40:00
Speaker 1: preferred drone of choice offers. But before you answer that,
40:03
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that. I want to ask you is
40:07
Speaker 1: because drones obviously they're three light years away from where
40:13
Speaker 1: they were when we first got them. They're becoming more
40:16
Speaker 1: advanced than some of them are becoming bigger, And is
40:21
Speaker 1: there a lot of talk from like in terms of
40:26
Speaker 1: regulation and who can fly what and where? And I
40:29
Speaker 1: know there are rules already, but I feel like that's
40:32
Speaker 1: got to be developed somewhat as these things wind up
40:38
Speaker 1: with greater and greater capacity.
40:40
Speaker 3: It depends on what you're using the drone force. So
40:43
Speaker 3: entry level drones where you just take it down to
40:45
Speaker 3: the path have a bit of a fly, that's one thing.
40:48
Speaker 3: But if you're starting to get into the market of
40:50
Speaker 3: the higher end drones, there's some good protections that are
40:52
Speaker 3: built into them. So DJI is one that I brand
40:55
Speaker 3: that I use, and in Australia not only to fly
40:58
Speaker 3: higher than one hundred and twenty meters, which four hundred feet,
41:01
Speaker 3: and that's because there's a demarcation between how low light
41:05
Speaker 3: aircraft can fly and how high that drone can fly.
41:08
Speaker 3: So the idea being that a drone can't interact in
41:11
Speaker 3: any way with an aircraft. But also you're not allowed
41:13
Speaker 3: to fly within five kilometers of an airport. So some
41:17
Speaker 3: of the more kind of I guess sensible drone manufacturers
41:21
Speaker 3: have that built into them because they use GPS's. If
41:25
Speaker 3: I took my plane, my drone to within five kilometers
41:29
Speaker 3: of an airport, it wouldn't fly, it wouldn't take off
41:32
Speaker 3: because it's designed not to be able to fly in
41:36
Speaker 3: any way the same morabit airport or isn't an airport,
41:38
Speaker 3: so that's a good thing. You need to be in
41:40
Speaker 3: line of sight as well, so you should be able
41:42
Speaker 3: to see the drone at all times. You're not allowed
41:45
Speaker 3: to fly over people in crowds and when you purchase
41:47
Speaker 3: a drone. The Civil Aviation Safety Authority CASSA, they have
41:53
Speaker 3: their legislative that you have to have this information all
41:57
Speaker 3: written out when you buy the drone as well. People,
42:00
Speaker 3: the onus is on the individual. If you're using it
42:02
Speaker 3: for commercial use, then there are certain you know, you
42:05
Speaker 3: need to register with the Civil Aviation Safety Authority. But look,
42:08
Speaker 3: ultimately it's like anything craigo. I can get in the
42:10
Speaker 3: car and speed, or I can drive on the wrong
42:12
Speaker 3: side of the road, but ultimately you've got to take
42:15
Speaker 3: into account that when you're going to a round about,
42:17
Speaker 3: the people in the round about are going to do
42:19
Speaker 3: the right thing, you know, people approaching around about. We
42:21
Speaker 3: take a lot of trust when it comes to driving
42:25
Speaker 3: on the roads. We make assumptions about other drivers that
42:29
Speaker 3: they're going to do the right thing, and I think
42:32
Speaker 3: for the most part people do. For the most part,
42:34
Speaker 3: people flying drones are going to do the right thing,
42:37
Speaker 3: and that's what we have to compuy on.
42:40
Speaker 1: So if I'm out it's a warmer day than today,
42:43
Speaker 1: and I'm out in my front yard by the jacuzi
42:46
Speaker 1: and the pool and the staff that I have in
42:48
Speaker 1: the front yard, of course, and I'm doing my morning
42:51
Speaker 1: sun salutations and downward dogs because I'm getting a bit
42:55
Speaker 1: of vitamin D on my anus. As a lot of
42:58
Speaker 1: people recommend and Tiff is three doors down flying her
43:03
Speaker 1: drone over the top of my son's salutations and down
43:06
Speaker 1: with dogs. Can she film me as I know she would,
43:10
Speaker 1: Yeah she could.
43:10
Speaker 3: But you know what I would suggest, I would suggest, Tiff,
43:13
Speaker 3: that you get a Fuji maximum zoom camera and go
43:17
Speaker 3: to one of those taller buildings because you'll get a
43:19
Speaker 3: much better picture if you have a good zoom camera
43:23
Speaker 3: than flying a roan that's going to be buzzing around,
43:25
Speaker 3: which Craig will know straight away that you're filming him.
43:28
Speaker 3: So this whole thing about drones, you know, taking subversive
43:33
Speaker 3: photographs and videos of people is ridiculous. They're so bloody loud,
43:37
Speaker 3: you know, when a drone is flying over. Go and
43:39
Speaker 3: buy a camera, crago, a camera with a decent Fuji,
43:42
Speaker 3: have some great maximum zoom cameras, and then find a
43:46
Speaker 3: tall space, a tree where you can't be seen and
43:49
Speaker 3: then that network.
43:51
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Tiff with a man alta one hundred x
43:55
Speaker 1: in the batboo at the top, just sitting with the
43:57
Speaker 1: eagle up there. That's already that fucking that's my skin. Yeah, yeah,
44:03
Speaker 1: it sounds good. Phillips launches a new range of smart
44:06
Speaker 1: skylights as approached to the stupid ones. We've all been
44:10
Speaker 1: using that mimic some light and support vitamin D production.
44:15
Speaker 3: Well, if you're going to be doing a dog position
44:17
Speaker 3: or whatever it was, with your honest.
44:19
Speaker 1: Faith, you've ever heard of a downward dog? Is that
44:22
Speaker 1: what you're telling me?
44:24
Speaker 2: I have.
44:26
Speaker 3: No that you go for your doggy position. That's perfectly fine.
44:28
Speaker 3: So phillips are now producing a skylight, so that an
44:33
Speaker 3: artificial skylight that is able to provide vitamin D enriching
44:38
Speaker 3: light so that people can can get their vitamin D
44:42
Speaker 3: hit because a lot of the lights don't. So if
44:44
Speaker 3: you're indoors a lot, this could be a good way
44:46
Speaker 3: to help you get your vitamin D, particularly in winter,
44:49
Speaker 3: middle of winter, indoors not going out much, covered up,
44:51
Speaker 3: rugged up, this could be good.
44:53
Speaker 1: I tell you where they'd sell a lot of those.
44:56
Speaker 1: Iceland has made it area. Don't be rude. There's a
45:02
Speaker 1: lot of daylight in Tazi.
45:04
Speaker 3: No, but not during the middle of winter. It's not
45:05
Speaker 3: about getting out into the daylight. It's about stripping off
45:08
Speaker 3: and exposing the skin to that daylight as well.
45:11
Speaker 1: If you're not only I mean you've foutten a pair
45:13
Speaker 1: of shorts, you're getting.
45:14
Speaker 3: It who's going to be there? A shorts in Tasmania.
45:17
Speaker 3: It's on the way to Antarctica, taz.
45:21
Speaker 1: Tiff. The world produces four hundred and sixty million tons
45:28
Speaker 1: of plastic every year. That's a lot of plastic, dude,
45:31
Speaker 1: Where is all that going?
45:33
Speaker 3: Well, that's the problem. It's going into the ecosystem, isn't it.
45:36
Speaker 3: It's going into the ocean, that's going into the waterways.
45:39
Speaker 3: This we're talking about a two hundred and thirty times increase,
45:44
Speaker 3: so from two million tons that was manufactured in nineteen fifties.
45:50
Speaker 3: It's just a staggering amount, isn't it. You know, it's
45:54
Speaker 3: there's so much plastic waste that's floating around. You know,
45:59
Speaker 3: We've got islands of plastic and it's sort and believe
46:06
Speaker 3: that if we're on the same track, it's going to
46:08
Speaker 3: skyrocket to one point two three one million tons annually
46:13
Speaker 3: by twenty sixty.
46:16
Speaker 1: Is there? I mean, that's well. I've seen a few things,
46:21
Speaker 1: not all over this at all, but people trying to
46:23
Speaker 1: produce energy from it or fuel from it to break
46:29
Speaker 1: it down, but also people using it to make other
46:33
Speaker 1: products and form other materials to compress it or treat
46:37
Speaker 1: it with something and then turn it from waste into
46:40
Speaker 1: a material that can be used for construction and the like.
46:45
Speaker 3: Only percent of all plastics have ever been that have
46:50
Speaker 3: been been produced have been successfully recycled. Only nine percent.
46:55
Speaker 1: Right, surely that I mean, surely that's a problem to
46:59
Speaker 1: be sold or that's a problem to be investigated. Yeah,
47:03
Speaker 1: for sure, not all of the great mite. Like we
47:05
Speaker 1: can get people to fucking Mars, eventually, surely we can
47:10
Speaker 1: try and fix the plastic thing.
47:13
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I agreed totally. You know, one of the
47:17
Speaker 3: things that we could do is potentially look at trying
47:20
Speaker 3: to not use plastics as much as we can try
47:23
Speaker 3: to avoid that. I mean, I was at the supermarket
47:25
Speaker 3: the other day and I was looking at just getting
47:29
Speaker 3: some sweet potato, and they had them in plastic foam
47:32
Speaker 3: covered with plastic like they would in the foam container
47:35
Speaker 3: and had to pick over it. How hard is it
47:37
Speaker 3: to pick up three and put it into a bag,
47:39
Speaker 3: you know, and put it into your shopping trolley and
47:42
Speaker 3: then put it out in the cant It's crazy. I
47:44
Speaker 3: mean I've tried to go for calico bags, cotton bags
47:48
Speaker 3: and things like that. I'd bring them into the supermarket,
47:50
Speaker 3: but just crazy, how much stuff is covered in plastics.
47:54
Speaker 1: Also, can I just point out I'm not good to
47:56
Speaker 1: you in this, but the science on what I'm about
47:58
Speaker 1: share is pretty accurate. Think, So we know that plastic
48:04
Speaker 1: leeches things called thalates into our system. So cooking things
48:08
Speaker 1: in plastic, when your food interacts with plastic, especially when
48:14
Speaker 1: you microwave it and things like that, thalates are endocrime disruptors.
48:19
Speaker 1: And so the plastic that interacts with our food, like
48:23
Speaker 1: even drinking out of a plastic water bottle that you
48:26
Speaker 1: leave in your car, you come back and it's somewhere
48:29
Speaker 1: near lukewarm. The drink the water you drink that you're
48:33
Speaker 1: putting crap in your body, it is extremely toxic. Like
48:38
Speaker 1: you do not want as much as possible. Easier said
48:42
Speaker 1: than done, but when you can, don't have your food
48:46
Speaker 1: in or covered by or near plastic, because there's more
48:51
Speaker 1: and more research coming out on that. And like I
48:54
Speaker 1: know that in twenty twenty sixty average kind of testosterone
48:58
Speaker 1: level because it's a mormone disruptor in men, is way
49:02
Speaker 1: lower than it was one hundred years ago, and that's
49:05
Speaker 1: part of that allegedly. So yeah, the.
49:09
Speaker 3: Other thing to think about, I guess is your kitchen routines.
49:12
Speaker 3: You know, if you washing, A lot of us use dishwashes,
49:15
Speaker 3: so we're try not to put plastic and dishwashers. Now,
49:17
Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys, but I don't put
49:18
Speaker 3: plastic and dishwashers. But even I was just thinking as
49:21
Speaker 3: you were talking. You know, when I do my smoothie
49:23
Speaker 3: other morning, I hand wash all the implements. Now I've
49:27
Speaker 3: tried to go away from using plastic scrubbing brushes and
49:30
Speaker 3: plastic sponges, so I'm using non plastic, using natural plant fibers.
49:36
Speaker 3: So when I wash anything, because the first thing you
49:38
Speaker 3: do is you turn the hot water tap on and
49:41
Speaker 3: so it's heating it, so that the first thing you do,
49:43
Speaker 3: and when you think about washing anything, even plastics, it's
49:47
Speaker 3: hot water, isn't it hot water into that plastic container
49:50
Speaker 3: and then you scrub the inside of it.
49:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then you know what else is a fucking nightmare.
49:56
Speaker 1: Plastic chopping boards. So you've got the food on the
50:00
Speaker 1: board and then you're slicing the food and the board
50:04
Speaker 1: at the same time. And although they are built in
50:07
Speaker 1: inverted commas for that, there's definitely a percentage of plastic
50:12
Speaker 1: that potentially can wind up in your food. So everyone
50:17
Speaker 1: timber or whatever you want to call them, a wooden
50:20
Speaker 1: chopping board, which I've got one downstairs and just does
50:23
Speaker 1: a beautiful job and doesn't wear out and it looks good.
50:26
Speaker 3: And the other thing about wooden constructed chopping boards is
50:30
Speaker 3: that the natural fibers and the sap inside it antibacterial,
50:35
Speaker 3: whereas plastic chopping boards can accumulate bacteria, and it actually
50:41
Speaker 3: is a lot less healthy in that sense. So I
50:42
Speaker 3: got rid of my plastic chopping board years ago for
50:44
Speaker 3: that reason. And now, of course it makes more sense
50:47
Speaker 3: because when you're cutting on a plastic board, that's when
50:49
Speaker 3: you're actually releasing the plastic micro fibers and things like that.
50:56
Speaker 1: Tiff, can you type this into Chatters or Claude or
51:02
Speaker 1: whoever you use and ask how would you I just
51:09
Speaker 1: want to highlight how would you resolve the global issue
51:16
Speaker 1: we have with plastic, with the excessive plastic we have
51:21
Speaker 1: that's polluting our planet. And you do that and I'll
51:24
Speaker 1: come back to you. Patrick. A single cotton T shirt
51:28
Speaker 1: requires two thousand and seven hundred liters of water to produce.
51:35
Speaker 1: Is telling us don't buy cotton T shirts? What are
51:38
Speaker 1: you telling.
51:38
Speaker 3: Us, well, maybe reuse, recycle, repurpose. This is auditing done
51:45
Speaker 3: by the World Wildlife Fun and Cotton t shirts require
51:50
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven leters a freshwater to produce the
51:53
Speaker 3: volume equivalent to a single human beings drinking water needs
51:56
Speaker 3: for two and a half years, or about thirty days
52:00
Speaker 3: for you, Craig, hah, I see what you did there. Yeah,
52:05
Speaker 3: thanks for that. Interestingly, you know, the one good thing
52:08
Speaker 3: is that your overshirt's probably come from the op Shop,
52:10
Speaker 3: so that's not a bad thing.
52:12
Speaker 1: But the reality that's true, I'm okay with that.
52:15
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well I've embarked on an eighteen month not
52:19
Speaker 3: buying any new clothes. You can tell by my reused
52:22
Speaker 3: op Shop National jama top. I've got two of them
52:25
Speaker 3: from the op Shop that I've had for about five years.
52:28
Speaker 3: Love them. But the reality of it is, I think
52:31
Speaker 3: it's let's not support fast fashion and not fall into
52:36
Speaker 3: the trap of buying new stuff constantly when we know
52:39
Speaker 3: how much goes into manufacturing that. I think educating people
52:43
Speaker 3: on what it takes to make a T shirt maybe
52:46
Speaker 3: you'll hold off next time you go and buy fast fashion.
52:48
Speaker 3: Then the other thing I was looking into is I
52:51
Speaker 3: don't know that, you know, if I didn't know this,
52:53
Speaker 3: but I was doing some research before the show. But
52:55
Speaker 3: there's a website, an Australian website called Ethical Clothing, and
53:00
Speaker 3: it looks the ethical clothing manufacturing in Australia and there's
53:05
Speaker 3: a little it's a black square with a little e,
53:07
Speaker 3: a cursive e that kids don't know how to draw now,
53:10
Speaker 3: but Ethical Clothing Australia. So go to you go to
53:14
Speaker 3: the website and you can check availability by brand, by location,
53:19
Speaker 3: and it even has stories of people who are working
53:21
Speaker 3: in the manufacturing sector in Australia producing these T shirts
53:26
Speaker 3: and clothing. So I think maybe making that ethical choice
53:29
Speaker 3: at the start, or not buying as much and going
53:32
Speaker 3: to OP. I mean I go to OP shops all
53:33
Speaker 3: the time. I think it's great stuff that's there.
53:36
Speaker 1: I'm also just the volume of clothes that people have.
53:40
Speaker 1: People dig at me all the time because I've got
53:42
Speaker 1: like this flannel that I'm wearing now, I've got three
53:45
Speaker 1: of the same ones, so no, I'm not wearing the
53:47
Speaker 1: same one all the time, as in the same actual shirt.
53:50
Speaker 1: And I wear cargo shirts every day, and I wear
53:53
Speaker 1: runners every day, and I wear socks every day. But literally, yeah,
53:57
Speaker 1: I would have maybe one tenth of the clothes that
54:01
Speaker 1: most people that I know have, And you're probably similar
54:04
Speaker 1: to me. Patrick, I'm like, you just don't. You don't
54:08
Speaker 1: need fucking eighty pairs of shoes Like that's not by
54:13
Speaker 1: number eighty anyway, that's very judgmental, Tiff. Have you figured
54:17
Speaker 1: out how to save the world from plastic?
54:20
Speaker 2: Yes?
54:21
Speaker 3: I have.
54:21
Speaker 2: Chatters has got something to say, He says, they say,
54:26
Speaker 2: make producers responsible for the waste, reduce unnecessary plastic before
54:30
Speaker 2: it's made, create an international plastic treaty, build modern waste
54:35
Speaker 2: systems in developing regions, put a price on virgin plastic,
54:41
Speaker 2: and that is it.
54:43
Speaker 3: Wow.
54:44
Speaker 1: Gee, thanks, They're not bad ideas, I guess. The only
54:46
Speaker 1: challenge in getting people to operationalize those theoretical suggestions is,
54:53
Speaker 1: you know, there's no immediate financial reward for them, and
54:56
Speaker 1: most organizations, including government's care about up the quick ROI
55:02
Speaker 1: you know, return on investment. We need to jam because
55:06
Speaker 1: I've got an eight thirty Patrick, how can people find you?
55:11
Speaker 1: And by that I'm in your home address in Balan.
55:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, it's not No, it's not hard. Just go
55:17
Speaker 3: to Blan and ask anybody, you'll he'll point you out
55:20
Speaker 3: to my place.
55:22
Speaker 1: Also, remember he has an eighteen eighty eight Smith and
55:24
Speaker 1: Wesson that has one bullet in it.
55:26
Speaker 3: So a question and a kili schnauza. Who will go
55:29
Speaker 3: for the throat? He's got three bouncy He might be small,
55:33
Speaker 3: but he can leap.
55:35
Speaker 1: The fact that he can't get up past your knees,
55:37
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. He's going to fuck your shins up.
55:40
Speaker 3: He'll go for the throat. He has a very good
55:42
Speaker 3: reach when it comes to jumping off chairs and tables
55:44
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. You go to websites now dot
55:47
Speaker 3: com today, you why the hell would anybody want to
55:49
Speaker 3: contact me now? Actually, if you want to ask us
55:51
Speaker 3: about a topic to discuss, you know, if you reckon
55:54
Speaker 3: that there's something we really desperately need to be talking
55:56
Speaker 3: about websites noow dot com today, you fill out the
55:59
Speaker 3: little four, send me an email, and we will talk
56:01
Speaker 3: about it in the next show, won't we cre go?
56:04
Speaker 1: Can I say nobody wants us to desperate, desperately wants
56:07
Speaker 1: us to talk about anything, Let's be honest. So one
56:11
Speaker 1: last thing, do you think that we have one teenage
56:14
Speaker 1: listener in the world. I'm just thinking about your comments
56:17
Speaker 1: about cursive. Is there one teenager that listens to this drivel?
56:22
Speaker 3: If you're listening to our drivell please email us, jump
56:26
Speaker 3: onto websites now dot com to au, or go to
56:28
Speaker 3: the Facebook. No, they won't at Facebook though crego, so
56:31
Speaker 3: they can't interact that way, so they'll have to know.
56:33
Speaker 3: You can be n gram on the gram. Yeah, get
56:36
Speaker 3: us on the gram.
56:38
Speaker 1: We probably need a new project Instagram page. Anyway, TIF,
56:42
Speaker 1: it's been great, Patrick, it's been great. Thank you both TIFFs.
56:46
Speaker 3: Thanks for staying awake.
56:47
Speaker 2: Thank you. I do feel a severe cognitive decline. It's
56:50
Speaker 2: been very hard to maintain clarity of thought. So I
56:55
Speaker 2: might have another sip of career team.
56:57
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe not, maybe not. Maybe you just have nine
57:00
Speaker 1: coffees or here's an idea, go and sleep