Latest / The D.L. Hughley Show / DLHS Hour 1 | Lindsay Clancy Mistrial Causing an Uproar on Social Media
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Gatton Matarazzo, the Dustin on Stranger Things.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Happy birthday to Trey Cheatham. It's Trey's birthday. Happy birthday, Trey.
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- 0:12Speaker 1: I'll be there in a few weeks and we'll show
- 0:13Speaker 1: you how to really set it off. Don't wear a
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- 0:17Speaker 2: I can't take that. Happy birthday to Peter Sellers, the
- 0:20Speaker 2: Pink Panther, right? Yep.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Yes. Yep. Happy birthday to L.C. Greenwood from the Steel Curtain.
- 0:33Speaker 1: We've got a great show lined up for you. Jasmine,
- 0:35Speaker 1: can I have a wish turn? I want to do
- 0:36Speaker 1: my part.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Have a little tiny note from the GED section. It's
- 0:40Speaker 2: the D.L. Hughley Show. Jazz man.
- 0:46Speaker 3: What man?
- 0:47Speaker 2: Tell these good people what's trending.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 0:49Speaker 5: This whole thing with Stephen A. Smith, Jemele Hill and
- 0:51Speaker 5: Carrie Champion.
- 0:53Speaker 3: My goodness.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith.
- 0:55Speaker 5: Oh, well, of course, in case you don't know by now,
- 0:58Speaker 5: he went over and he did their podcast. And, you know,
- 1:00Speaker 5: he was there, he says, for three hours. He answered
- 1:03Speaker 5: all the questions and whatnot. And so, of course, you know,
- 1:06Speaker 5: Carrie Champion hopped on and was basically like, we don't
- 1:09Speaker 5: know if we benefited us or not. You know, now
- 1:11Speaker 5: there is some, you know, me and DL had a
- 1:12Speaker 5: back and forth because he was like, they did benefit.
- 1:14Speaker 5: You know, their numbers went from, I think, six or
- 1:16Speaker 5: eight thousand to like thirty thousand and all of these
- 1:19Speaker 5: views and whatnot.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:21Speaker 5: My thought process was I didn't like the posture that
- 1:24Speaker 5: Stephen A.
- 1:24Speaker 3: Smith took when he walked into the room.
- 1:26Speaker 5: You could tell he had no goal of rectifying whatever,
- 1:30Speaker 5: you know, you know, image or reputation he had developed.
- 1:35Speaker 5: I think they had some things that they needed to
- 1:37Speaker 5: get off their chest. But what I did not like
- 1:38Speaker 5: the most and people on social media agree is. is
- 1:41Speaker 5: that even though, yes, he did benefit them, the way
- 1:45Speaker 5: he was so arrogant as in saying, look what I
- 1:48Speaker 5: did and look what I did. And it reminded me
- 1:50Speaker 5: so much of what he said about the NABJ.
- 1:53Speaker 3: Same thing. Look what I did for you. Look what
- 1:55Speaker 3: I did for you. Look what I did.
- 1:56Speaker 5: I'm like, OK, I thought the whole purpose was coming
- 1:59Speaker 5: together to kind of squash whatever beef there might be
- 2:03Speaker 5: between him and the black community. And obviously that was
- 2:07Speaker 5: not what the goal was. And I don't I can't
- 2:08Speaker 5: really speak for them. Jamel and Kerry, but it didn't
- 2:12Speaker 5: seem as if that they came into it with the
- 2:15Speaker 5: idea of squelching whatever issue that was had.
- 2:19Speaker 4: Right.
- 2:20Speaker 3: I just think he came to be Stephen A.
- 2:22Speaker 4: Smith.
- 2:22Speaker 3: He did. He did.
- 2:24Speaker 5: And the way he sat there and, you know, it
- 2:28Speaker 5: was just the height of arrogance for me.
- 2:30Speaker 3: And I didn't like that.
- 2:31Speaker 4: I saw the clip when she was talking about a
- 2:33Speaker 4: Kerry champion was like, I didn't like the way, you know,
- 2:35Speaker 4: you said that you were responsible for getting me my
- 2:37Speaker 4: job and everything.
- 2:38Speaker 6: Right.
- 2:39Speaker 4: And I'm qualified. And he said, no, there's a lot
- 2:41Speaker 4: of qualified people. He said, you are qualified. You are
- 2:43Speaker 4: more than qualified. He said, but there's a lot of
- 2:45Speaker 4: qualified people don't get to break. And I gave you
- 2:47Speaker 4: the break. Like it was basically he was saying that.
- 2:49Speaker 4: So if nothing else, it was good podcasting.
- 2:52Speaker 3: It was good podcasting for sure. I mean, but still.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:56Speaker 5: Now, the other thing we we've had this conversation before,
- 2:59Speaker 5: but when I tell you that it went in to
- 3:02Speaker 5: overdrive over the weekend and And that's this Lindsay Clancy trial.
- 3:06Speaker 5: People are irritated about this because they're saying there was
- 3:11Speaker 5: a mother who was also, you know, I guess from
- 3:14Speaker 5: wherever she's from, a black woman, though, out of Massachusetts,
- 3:19Speaker 5: who did the exact same thing.
- 3:20Speaker 3: I was only one kid, though, with hers. It was
- 3:23Speaker 3: two kids. It was two kids. It wasn't three.
- 3:26Speaker 5: Did the exact same thing. I think her boys were
- 3:28Speaker 5: like five and eight.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Same situation. She used the same defense, only it didn't
- 3:34Speaker 3: work for her.
- 3:36Speaker 5: And the other thing that you add to Lindsay Clancy's
- 3:38Speaker 5: case is the fact that she did all of this research.
- 3:43Speaker 5: She did all this research and people are saying, OK,
- 3:46Speaker 5: it takes at least it takes a little while to
- 3:49Speaker 5: strangle someone.
- 3:50Speaker 3: You can't just do it. And it's quick.
- 3:52Speaker 5: So that means you not only strangled one of your
- 3:54Speaker 5: children for a long amount of time for in order
- 3:57Speaker 5: for them to be unalived. Then you decided, let me
- 4:00Speaker 5: go do this three more, two, two more times.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Right.
- 4:03Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 4:04Speaker 5: And of course, when you if you watch some of
- 4:06Speaker 5: the trial, you saw some of the experts was like, no,
- 4:08Speaker 5: this don't fall under that category.
- 4:10Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 4:11Speaker 5: This don't fall under the category of postpartum. This ain't
- 4:14Speaker 5: what that is. And so, you know, and of course,
- 4:17Speaker 5: the conversation online is, you know, this is now set precedent.
- 4:22Speaker 5: that women can't handle high-pressure situations because hormones. This now says, President,
- 4:29Speaker 5: a police officer can't be a female. As a matter
- 4:31Speaker 5: of fact, neither can in the military service because who knows?
- 4:36Speaker 3: The hormones could be out of place.
- 4:37Speaker 5: Matter of fact, we are not going to allow women
- 4:39Speaker 5: to have guns because hormones could make them. We don't
- 4:41Speaker 5: know when they're going to snap and shoot everybody. It's
- 4:44Speaker 5: a number of things that this is at issue here.
- 4:46Speaker 5: But most importantly, the fact that it was a white
- 4:49Speaker 5: woman and she got away with it. I mean, of course,
- 4:52Speaker 5: they're going to revisit the situation to see if they're
- 4:54Speaker 5: even going to approach for a retrial or not.
- 4:56Speaker 3: So, I don't know. We'll see. But that's what's trending.
- 4:59Speaker 1: So, I grew up on 135th and Avalon in Los Angeles.
- 5:02Speaker 1: And I remember my mother and her friends on the street,
- 5:05Speaker 1: they were always pickling something or canning something or preserving something.
- 5:11Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I don't ever recall going
- 5:13Speaker 1: to the grocery store for vegetables at all. I don't
- 5:16Speaker 1: think I did that until I became an adult. But
- 5:20Speaker 1: she grew greens, and she grew tomatoes and peaches, and
- 5:23Speaker 1: she grew corn, and she grew onions, and just everything
- 5:27Speaker 1: we needed, she grew it in the backyard. And I
- 5:30Speaker 1: hated it.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Hated it.
- 5:31Speaker 1: She would get eggs from a little Mexican lady on
- 5:34Speaker 1: Main Street, and the eggs were always a different color,
- 5:37Speaker 1: and sometimes they'd be a feather sticking out of them.
- 5:40Speaker 1: It was always weird. And she kept everything in the
- 5:43Speaker 1: deep freezer. And I resented it. And I thought, well,
- 5:46Speaker 1: when we grow up, I'm never going to.
- 5:48Speaker 4: Do that again.
- 5:49Speaker 1: I'm not going to grow stuff. Everything I get is
- 5:50Speaker 1: going to come from the store. As a matter of
- 5:52Speaker 1: fruit was so. But like if you were if you
- 5:55Speaker 1: were walking home and you wanted fruit at all, you
- 5:57Speaker 1: could just climb a fence and get it every every neighbor.
- 6:00Speaker 2: I mean, it's California. So fruit was everywhere. It was,
- 6:03Speaker 2: you know, oranges. It was apples. It was pears. It
- 6:07Speaker 2: was plums.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Every every black dude I knew growing up in my
- 6:10Speaker 1: neighborhood had a dog bite for trying to hop over
- 6:13Speaker 1: a fence to get some fruit.
- 6:15Speaker 2: I remember we never went.
- 6:16Speaker 1: To the store grocery store to get anything other than
- 6:20Speaker 1: like meat and bread and cereal. Everything came out of
- 6:25Speaker 1: that garden and I hated it. And they were always
- 6:27Speaker 1: pickling and preserving and canning.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Never.
- 6:30Speaker 1: The only time I ever had ice cream from a
- 6:31Speaker 1: store was when it was like a birthday party.
- 6:34Speaker 2: You would only get that Neapolitan ice cream.
- 6:37Speaker 1: And I was talking to my daughter the other day.
- 6:39Speaker 1: She lives in Atlanta. And I asked her what she
- 6:40Speaker 1: was doing. And she said that she was ordering a
- 6:43Speaker 1: half a cow. And her and her friends were ordering
- 6:46Speaker 1: half and a cow because, you know, the food situation
- 6:48Speaker 1: is so bad.
- 6:49Speaker 2: It's so expensive. And it's so tainted. They don't trust
- 6:51Speaker 2: it anymore.
- 6:53Speaker 1: And I realized then that she was buying a deep freezer,
- 6:56Speaker 1: which is what we grew up with. We had a
- 6:57Speaker 1: deep freezer. I didn't even know it was a deep freezer.
- 6:58Speaker 1: We called it a lay-down refrigerator. And it was always
- 7:00Speaker 1: in the garage. And it always had something. Like every
- 7:03Speaker 1: time my father's friend would go get something that they shot,
- 7:07Speaker 1: it would be in the white paper in the freezer.
- 7:10Speaker 1: And it was always peas or something they put up.
- 7:13Speaker 1: And I didn't like it because it made me feel
- 7:15Speaker 1: like we weren't doing well. And what they were doing
- 7:18Speaker 1: is feeding us. My mother used to say, the man
- 7:21Speaker 1: who starves you, who feeds you, can starve you. They
- 7:25Speaker 1: were all about making sure that they could eat no
- 7:28Speaker 1: matter what. And I remember growing up and thinking that
- 7:31Speaker 1: that was silly, that you could get everything you needed
- 7:34Speaker 1: from the store.
- 7:35Speaker 2: And now I know they were right. They were right.
- 7:39Speaker 1: They had anything you couldn't get from her, somebody else had.
- 7:43Speaker 1: If you had these peas and I had this, it
- 7:45Speaker 1: was a collaborative communal thing and they knew how to
- 7:48Speaker 1: feed their families.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Whereas I grew up not knowing how to. Everything I
- 7:52Speaker 2: needed came from the store.
- 7:53Speaker 1: So it's full circle to see my daughter start to
- 7:56Speaker 1: act like my mother used to. She grows things in
- 8:00Speaker 1: her garden. She puts stuff up. She pickles stuff. She's
- 8:04Speaker 1: putting stuff in the deep freezer. And it's amazing to
- 8:07Speaker 1: me To admit, like, you always think your parents were
- 8:10Speaker 1: doing things that you never understood. And they would always say,
- 8:14Speaker 1: when you get older, you will. So I said all
- 8:17Speaker 1: of that to say, tomorrow I'm buying a damn deep freezer.
- 8:23Speaker 1: That's a little note from the GED sexy.
- 8:25Speaker 2: It's the D.L. Hughley Show.
- 8:26Speaker 3: She's jazzed.
- 8:27Speaker 2: She smiles. It's the Jazzy Report on the D.L. Hughley Show.
- 8:34Speaker 5: The Defense Health Agency has established a hormone screening pathway
- 8:38Speaker 5: for female service members, directing providers to screen women annually
- 8:42Speaker 5: for hormonal dysregulation and establishing clinical pathways for problems ranging
- 8:47Speaker 5: from menstrual irregularities to menopause. The guidance takes effect immediately
- 8:53Speaker 5: and expires one year after its September 2nd signature.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Whoa.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Yeah, they check it. They're trying to figure out who
- 9:00Speaker 3: is fertile and who ain't. I wonder why.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Well, fertility is at an all-time low, right? Yes, it is.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Compared to years past. Absolutely.
- 9:11Speaker 5: But doesn't that sound strangely familiar? If you saw The
- 9:15Speaker 5: Handmaid's Tale, you know that's exactly what it was about.
- 9:17Speaker 5: Fertility issues. No one was able to have babies except
- 9:20Speaker 5: for a very few. And how do you think they
- 9:22Speaker 5: track that?
- 9:23Speaker 2: Yep.
- 9:24Speaker 3: I'll just keep moving. You look cute in red. Experts
- 9:26Speaker 3: are testing. No one will be in blue.
- 9:28Speaker 5: Trust me.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Maybe green.
- 9:32Speaker 3: You never know.
- 9:33Speaker 5: Anyway, experts are testing a skin and kidney cancer drug
- 9:35Speaker 5: that they say can help speed up recovery in heart
- 9:38Speaker 5: attack patients and cut the risk of a second attack.
- 9:41Speaker 5: Researchers have found that an injection of the drug increases
- 9:44Speaker 5: levels of a rare white blood cell that protects the
- 9:46Speaker 5: heart by reducing scarring and inflammation.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Hmm.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Boy, there's science. One drug always does something for something else. Yeah, boy.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Hopefully they don't cancel it. Oh, then there's that. This
- 9:59Speaker 3: is interesting.
- 10:00Speaker 1: The teacher was probably because he read out loud the
- 10:02Speaker 1: N-word into Kelly Mockenberg, which was a part of the
- 10:05Speaker 1: school curriculum.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Here is the audio.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Be freaking kidding me.
- 10:11Speaker 2: You used the N-word in class.
- 10:13Speaker 3: I want you to explain to the audience exactly what happened.
- 10:15Speaker 6: I was walking around my classroom, pacing the room, and
- 10:18Speaker 6: I overheard this conversation between these two girls. And they
- 10:21Speaker 6: were talking about the book To Kill a Mockingbird. And
- 10:24Speaker 6: they're currently assigned to read that in their English class.
- 10:26Speaker 6: And they were talking about how their teacher makes them
- 10:29Speaker 6: skip over a certain word.
- 10:31Speaker 3: We all know what the word is, right?
- 10:32Speaker 5: It's the N-word.
- 10:32Speaker 3: I won't say it here, but it's the N-word.
- 10:34Speaker 6: Sure. And I just thought that's silly. And so I
- 10:38Speaker 6: calmly just expressed my disagreement. And a girl asked me
- 10:41Speaker 6: point blank in front of the class. Well, if you
- 10:44Speaker 6: were reading the book, would you say the word? And
- 10:47Speaker 6: I sort of laughed, but I said, of course. And
- 10:50Speaker 6: right then a boy whipped out the book. He had
- 10:52Speaker 6: it on the exact page. And he said, okay, then
- 10:55Speaker 6: do it. And so I took the book and I
- 10:58Speaker 6: wanted to display for my students that you can read
- 11:01Speaker 6: books honestly. You don't have to, you shouldn't have to
- 11:03Speaker 6: fear the consequences. And let's just undo this lie you've
- 11:07Speaker 6: been told that if you're white or whatever, that you
- 11:11Speaker 6: can't read a book. I believe as an educator, it's
- 11:14Speaker 6: my job to help facilitate critical thinking. And I tried
- 11:18Speaker 6: to make it a lesson about context versus intent. You know,
- 11:21Speaker 6: it's intent of our words, that really makes something racist
- 11:25Speaker 6: or not, not reading it out.
- 11:27Speaker 4: Of a book.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Should the teacher have been fired?
- 11:29Speaker 3: All right.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Well then fire anybody to fire, you know, anything by
- 11:33Speaker 1: a fire, anybody who read anything by Mark Twain or
- 11:35Speaker 1: any other literate, like suffice it to say that American
- 11:38Speaker 1: literature is permeated with the word.
- 11:42Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Well, read a, read a, read a, a script by,
- 11:46Speaker 1: you know, Tarantino, Tarantino, read a script by him.
- 11:49Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 11:50Speaker 1: I think Mark Twain and Huckleberry Finn, they said, the
- 11:53Speaker 1: N-word 250 times. And then they tried to go back
- 11:57Speaker 1: and do it in a bit of business history. They
- 11:58Speaker 1: tried to take it out and replace it with the
- 12:00Speaker 1: word slave. Now, I don't know about you, I'd much
- 12:03Speaker 1: rather be a n * * * a than a slave. Like,
- 12:07Speaker 1: if you call me n * * * a, I
- 12:08Speaker 1: can still go to my house. You call me slave,
- 12:09Speaker 1: I got to go with you on now.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Yes, for sure.
- 12:12Speaker 1: So do you think he should have been fired? That's
- 12:14Speaker 1: the question we're posing to you.
- 12:16Speaker 6: 877-242-2426.
- 12:16Speaker 3: Also, this is up.
- 12:18Speaker 5: On Twitter, DL Hughley Radio, or on Facebook, the DL
- 12:20Speaker 5: Hughley Show. And the website is thedlhughleyshow.com. This is interesting.
- 12:24Speaker 1: The teacher was fired because he read out loud the
- 12:26Speaker 1: N-word into Kelly Mockenberg, which was a part of the
- 12:29Speaker 1: school curriculum.
- 12:30Speaker 2: He read the whole book.
- 12:32Speaker 1: He read the book in its entirety, the way that
- 12:35Speaker 1: it appears in the literature.
- 12:36Speaker 3: You mean the way it was written.
- 12:38Speaker 5: Right.
- 12:38Speaker 1: The way it was written. And so do you think
- 12:41Speaker 1: he should have been fired? We're going to go to
- 12:43Speaker 1: our social media platform. Jasmine, what are they saying out there?
- 12:46Speaker 5: So Destiny out of Birmingham says, I do not think
- 12:49Speaker 5: he should be fired because that's the way it was written.
- 12:51Speaker 2: It's one of those things that is.
- 12:54Speaker 1: You know, a red herring that people grab onto when
- 12:57Speaker 1: white men get go, I can't.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Say what I want.
- 12:59Speaker 2: I feel inhibited. I, you.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Know, if it's already in the book and it's already
- 13:04Speaker 1: in the school curriculum, what, what are people doing? Why,
- 13:08Speaker 1: why is this even the thing? Right.
- 13:10Speaker 2: If you don't want them to say, take it out
- 13:12Speaker 2: the book.
- 13:13Speaker 4: Right.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Well, you want me to take the book out the curriculum.
- 13:15Speaker 1: You had no problem taking the bluest eye out.
- 13:18Speaker 5: Well, the thing is though, I think that's, I don't
- 13:21Speaker 5: think that's the solution. Because I think I don't like
- 13:23Speaker 5: the idea of banning books very much in the same
- 13:25Speaker 5: way I saw in one school in Philly. They were
- 13:27Speaker 5: trying to ban To Kill a Mockingbird along with Mark
- 13:30Speaker 5: Twain's book as well. I don't think you should ban books.
- 13:32Speaker 5: The books were written. They were written by men during
- 13:35Speaker 5: a period of time. And those words were used. So
- 13:37Speaker 5: and they're used today. But I think I think you
- 13:39Speaker 5: read it. I think it's all contextual. I think if
- 13:41Speaker 5: you're saying it as a racial.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Right. But I'm saying I'm. If you're saying it to
- 13:45Speaker 3: me in person, you're saying this. Right.
- 13:48Speaker 1: You do.
- 13:48Speaker 5: But you're not Mark Twain either. But the point is,
- 13:52Speaker 5: you're no more. But the point is, I think that's
- 13:55Speaker 5: the problem. We're all afraid to to face. and accept
- 14:00Speaker 5: what is historical. It is true. This book, and it
- 14:03Speaker 5: won a gazillion prizes and has been lauded by other
- 14:08Speaker 5: literary people.
- 14:09Speaker 3: I think you read the book as is.
- 14:11Speaker 5: And if you're having a regular conversation and you're like, oh,
- 14:13Speaker 5: you ends in here won't do the work.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Okay, that's a whole different situation. Yeah, or that's also
- 14:16Speaker 1: a contract negotiation. That's what I'm saying, yeah. That sounds
- 14:20Speaker 1: like a staff meeting, doesn't it?
- 14:21Speaker 2: Sorry, my bad.