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Texas Murder: Who killed Molly Matheson? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: There was no fourth century in the strangulation depth of
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  Speaker 1: a twenty two year old fort Worth woman, though they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't say whether Mathison knew the person who strangled her
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  Speaker 1: in her apartment bathroom. Fort Worth police tell me that
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  Speaker 1: they do not have a suspect identified right now. Police
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  Speaker 1: also said the twenty two year old likely died sometimes
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night or Monday morning. Her mother discovered her body
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  Speaker 1: around four thirty Monday afternoon. This is current stories, but
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, a family friend, described her as the funniest
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  Speaker 1: person nobody could ever hit her. She was just so amazing,
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  Speaker 1: a woman who was involved in church and had a
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  Speaker 1: clever sense of humor. Though she lived near TCU, Molly
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  Speaker 1: was not a student here. She spent time studying at
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  Speaker 1: the University of Arkansas and graduated from Keller's Timber Creek
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  Speaker 1: High School in that's just one class ahead of Suzu Burke,
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  Speaker 1: who was also nearer than twenty two. Back in October,
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  Speaker 1: a church going sorority girl has been found dead in
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  Speaker 1: her apartment near Texas Christian University. Now, let's be clear
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  Speaker 1: the fact that she is a sorority girl, or a
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  Speaker 1: churchgoer or a devout Christian does not make her life
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  Speaker 1: more or less valuable than any other crime victims, but
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  Speaker 1: it does delineate the pool of suspects. I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you that much. This is crime stories. I Nancy Grace,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. I'm talking about Molly Matheson.
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  Speaker 1: So as you know, when you start a homicide investigation,
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  Speaker 1: you look at those closest to the victim. You look
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  Speaker 1: at her husband, her lover, her boyfriend, her ex. Then
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  Speaker 1: you start looking at her neighbors, her classmates, her extended family.
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  Speaker 1: The delivery boy goes out out out for there and
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  Speaker 1: further attenuated people she talked to online, the checkout boy
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  Speaker 1: at the grocery store. You start at her nucleus, her
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  Speaker 1: emotional nucleus, and then you move out. That is how
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  Speaker 1: a homicide investigation works. It's tried, it's true, it's proven.
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  Speaker 1: So when I say this was a church going sorority girl,
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  Speaker 1: whereas the first place I would look at her church.
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  Speaker 1: I would look at her Sunday school teacher. I would
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  Speaker 1: look at her pastor, Yes, I said it, I would
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  Speaker 1: look at whoever drove her to church. I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 1: look at Tad Commins, the pirv who took off with
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  Speaker 1: fifteen year old Elizabeth Thomas. He took her to church, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: yes he did. I would look at everybody she's connected
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  Speaker 1: to at church. Then I would look at her sorority.
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  Speaker 1: I look at everybody, all the male quote sponsors, all
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  Speaker 1: the guys that were at the last party. I would
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  Speaker 1: start there. I would start go to her classes, her family,
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend. For the as of you just joining us,
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  Speaker 1: I am talking about a gorgeous young co ed, a
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  Speaker 1: church going sorority girl as she has been dubbed, who
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  Speaker 1: has been found strangled dead in her home. It was
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  Speaker 1: in the D block of Waite's Avenue, just two blocks
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  Speaker 1: from the Texas Christian University campus in Fort Worth, and
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  Speaker 1: autopsy was conducted by the Tyrant County Medical Examiner. It
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  Speaker 1: is definitely homicide by strangulation. Don't know whether it is
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  Speaker 1: a ligature or manual yet. We're waiting to hear that,
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  Speaker 1: but even that piece of evidence is a major clue.
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  Speaker 1: Also joining me right now is the Duke Alan Duke
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  Speaker 1: on the story. You know a lot of missing and
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  Speaker 1: murdered women that we have covered. Some of them we
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  Speaker 1: found out had an angry X. We found out that
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  Speaker 1: they had a t r O out against a boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: or an ex husband. We found out that they had
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  Speaker 1: had a drug history and that some of the people
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  Speaker 1: they had dealt with, let's just say, we're not the
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  Speaker 1: most upstanding members of the community. I a drug dealers.
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  Speaker 1: Not so with this woman. As of right now, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know whether the strangulation was ligature or manual, and
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  Speaker 1: that in itself can be a major major clue. If
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  Speaker 1: it was by ligature, with what and if by ligature,
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  Speaker 1: could there be any touch DNA or any DNA from
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  Speaker 1: the purp on it. What more do we know about her? Alan?
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  Speaker 1: She was not a student at TCU, but as you say,
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  Speaker 1: she was a churchgoer and had been a member of
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  Speaker 1: the Alpha Delta Pi sorority. That's according at least to
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  Speaker 1: her social media posts. So I mean, she looks like
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  Speaker 1: just an all American girl. The reason that she you're
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  Speaker 1: saying that she was not a student, she was not
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  Speaker 1: currently currently. But to be in the sorority you have
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  Speaker 1: to be a student, whether you're active or inactive. Correction,
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  Speaker 1: when you're saying alpha delta phi, do you mean alpha
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  Speaker 1: delta pie phi pie Phi pie Yes, Well, which one
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  Speaker 1: is it? Nancy? I was not a sorority guy. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: alaep Alan, it's very significant whether she was an alpha
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  Speaker 1: delta Phi or an alpha delta Pie. And frankly, Alan Deep,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you've gotten as far as you
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  Speaker 1: have in life without knowing the entire Greek alphabet alphabeta gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, ada,
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  Speaker 1: theeta iota. I mean, do you want me to finish it?
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  Speaker 1: It's my point is very to think of apple or
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  Speaker 1: three point one four one five nine two six five
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  Speaker 1: three five. I could go on with that too. Now
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  Speaker 1: those are the those are the trivia things I know well.
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  Speaker 1: I know the Greek alphabet, and I'll tell you why
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  Speaker 1: it's significant because I also was an ad pie now
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  Speaker 1: there now now, granted, granted I was only an ad
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  Speaker 1: pie for half of my college junior For the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the time, I was quote independent Okay, And both
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  Speaker 1: of them had their good points. But I want to
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  Speaker 1: get back aside from you not knowing the Greek alphabet illiterate,
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  Speaker 1: I won't move on back to her. She's a twenty
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  Speaker 1: two year old co ed found dead near Texas Christian
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  Speaker 1: University on Monday. We know that she was strangled the
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  Speaker 1: medical examiners confirmed that she was not enrolled a classes
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  Speaker 1: at the time of her murder. She was between semesters,
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  Speaker 1: as my understanding, and she was found in a bathroom
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  Speaker 1: by her mother in her home just a few blocks
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  Speaker 1: from the campus at Fort Worth. Her own mother found her,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm trying to figure out how that happened now.
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  Speaker 1: The TCU Texas Christian University police ask students to quote,
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  Speaker 1: remain vigilant and immediately report suspicious activity. So they're not saying, Alan,
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  Speaker 1: you're safe, don't worry. That's what they say when they
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  Speaker 1: think they know who did it. So what else do
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  Speaker 1: you know about her own Molly Matheson's family lived in
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  Speaker 1: Virginia before they moved to Winter Park, Florida, and attended
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  Speaker 1: the United Methodist Church there. When she was younger than
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  Speaker 1: when she was a teen, they moved to the Fort Worth,
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  Speaker 1: Texas area. She has an older brother and two younger brothers.
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  Speaker 1: A check of her social media account shows a young
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  Speaker 1: lady who liked to make fun videos of her and
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  Speaker 1: her friends and at least one pet rabbit. While she
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  Speaker 1: left the University of Arkansas two years ago, she enrolled
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  Speaker 1: in Arrant County College, which offers to your associate degrees.
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  Speaker 1: It's said of her, she could take your bad mood
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  Speaker 1: and turn it around with a wonderful sense of humor,
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  Speaker 1: said her sorority sister. She was easy to talk to.
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  Speaker 1: She would always make you feel better and relate to
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  Speaker 1: what you were saying. She was always doing something to
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  Speaker 1: make others laugh. And she would always give everybody nicknames
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  Speaker 1: and a catchphrase with everybody. She attended Keller timber Creek
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  Speaker 1: High School. There is another woman alan which I'm very
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  Speaker 1: concerned about, at timber Creek Keller timber Creek High School
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  Speaker 1: named Zozo Verke And if you remember her, she was
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  Speaker 1: a twenty one ye're all college student that was killed
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  Speaker 1: last year in Texas. Now, in Zuzu's case, her boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: has already been charged. So that's quite a coincidence, right,
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  Speaker 1: that two girls at the same age from the same
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  Speaker 1: small high school are both murdered. That's highly, highly coincidental.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean it couldn't possibly be the same herb
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  Speaker 1: because the guy that kills Zuzu's in jail, right, the
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend he was charged just last month with murder. I
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to the scene. What we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about everyone is a young co ed. It's unclear whether
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  Speaker 1: she was set to resume classes. I know she had
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  Speaker 1: been at University of Arkansas that has now been found
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  Speaker 1: strangled dead in her own home. But you know, for
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  Speaker 1: the longest I thought that she was renting an apartment
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  Speaker 1: by TCU, But it sounds more like this was her
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  Speaker 1: family home because her mother found her. Her mother is
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  Speaker 1: the one that found her. She was renting the back
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  Speaker 1: pool house, which is behind a gated driveway. Huh okay,
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  Speaker 1: So what does that mean to you? Does that mean
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  Speaker 1: it's not her family home? No, she was. It was
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  Speaker 1: not her family home. It was just a house near
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  Speaker 1: the campus that she was renting. And you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: a guesthouse a little removed from the main residence. Before
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  Speaker 1: we go any further analyzing the murder, the strangulation death
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  Speaker 1: of Molly mathieson a sorority sister there near Texans Texas
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  Speaker 1: death of Molly Matheson and our search for justice. How
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  Speaker 1: did Molly Matheson, authrority sister come to be strangled at
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  Speaker 1: a Fort Worth college community on guard Now? After this
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  Speaker 1: mystery homicide, the word of her death traveled quickly across campus.
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  Speaker 1: Cops were called around four thirty on Monday, and her
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  Speaker 1: death was ruled homicide by strangulation. You know, I was
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  Speaker 1: looking at her background, Alan Do again, the former University
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  Speaker 1: of Arkansas student returned to Fort Worth and was renting
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  Speaker 1: near her family's upscale home. Now, this is a neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: where there's not a lot of crime, and it seems
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  Speaker 1: to me that because of that, this is more of
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  Speaker 1: a targeted homicide. Way in, it does sound targeted. It's
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  Speaker 1: not like it was, you know, along a path that
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  Speaker 1: somebody would find that would have to go into this
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  Speaker 1: family's residence and back to the poolhouse to find her,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps following her there. So one would deduce that either
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  Speaker 1: the person went back there with her or knew that
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  Speaker 1: she was there. If this is an upscale home area
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  Speaker 1: residence that is upscale, I wonder what their security system is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the Fort Worth police have security camera
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  Speaker 1: video from the home, you know, in a neighborhood like that, Alan,
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  Speaker 1: I would think that they're going to have security footage.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm also one if they did have security footage,
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  Speaker 1: why they haven't already released it? I mean, think about it.
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  Speaker 1: You're in an upscale area, which what I mean by
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  Speaker 1: that is the houses are expensive. You've got a pool house,
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  Speaker 1: which means there's a pool. I mean, this place ain't shabby, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: I looked at the crime mapping online of this neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: and the only crimes investigated recently anywhere near the residence
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  Speaker 1: where she was killed was a car break in in
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  Speaker 1: October on that same block, just a couple of doors down,
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  Speaker 1: and then a house burglary one street over in January. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: this neighborhood stands out on the crime map is being
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  Speaker 1: particularly quiet. The home appears to be the nicest on
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  Speaker 1: the block, since it takes up about two lots, one
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  Speaker 1: of them being where the pool and that poolhouse is located,
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  Speaker 1: and that area is surrounded by us about a six
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  Speaker 1: ft high fence. It would appear the only way to
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  Speaker 1: get to the pool house where Molly was murdered would
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  Speaker 1: be to go through the main house. Molly lived alone
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  Speaker 1: in the pool house apparently, which looks like it would
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  Speaker 1: be only big enough for an efficiency apartment in one person.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the southwest corner of the lot, up against
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  Speaker 1: a backyard fence, and if you were wondering if somebody
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  Speaker 1: could jump that fence, well they would have to jump
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  Speaker 1: another one just to get to that one. As I
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  Speaker 1: stated earlier, police were called to the scene around four
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  Speaker 1: thirty pm after her death was discovered by her mother.
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  Speaker 1: Authorities were said to have been on the scene at
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  Speaker 1: that poolhouse bathroom through the night, and we're still at
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  Speaker 1: the home late into the next day investigating. It's not
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  Speaker 1: known yet whether Molly's death was a random attack or
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  Speaker 1: was it committed by someone she knew or that had
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  Speaker 1: targeted her. She was renting this It's been called a
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  Speaker 1: pool house apartment. It's been called a garage apartment at
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  Speaker 1: a nearby home. She was killed in her bathroom. I'm curious.
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  Speaker 1: Was she oathed, was she unclothed? Was there a sex attack?
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  Speaker 1: If so, there should be d n A. Tributes are
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  Speaker 1: pouring in for the former ad Pie member, described as funny,
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  Speaker 1: kind and loving. But what it's done to the campus.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is afraid. Women are afraid. But what's interesting to me,
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  Speaker 1: aside from that, alan every time there is a murder
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  Speaker 1: or a rape on campus, everyone's afraid for about a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Then they go right back to where they were before
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  Speaker 1: the incident and nothing really changes. Alan, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: disagree with that because this, strangely, is about forty miles
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  Speaker 1: away from where Terry Missy Beavers was murdered. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, the one year anniversary of that April eighteenth
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  Speaker 1: is Monday, and we're re examining that now and we'll
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  Speaker 1: update people on the latest. But the Middle Lothian community,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you, is still on edge from that
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  Speaker 1: a year ago. And it's forty miles away from the
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  Speaker 1: Creekside Church and Lothian where this woman was found strangled. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, I said on college campuses, but these are
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  Speaker 1: around college campuses. Alan, come on, I said, college campuses.
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  Speaker 1: And you know that next week or in two weeks
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  Speaker 1: or in three weeks, they're gonna go right back to
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  Speaker 1: the regular practices the way they always do. Nothing ever
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  Speaker 1: really changes. I'm not so sure I think that this
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  Speaker 1: is this is one that people are going to remember.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that it is. Well. Whoever is responsible for
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  Speaker 1: Molla's death is still at large, and we've heard nothing
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  Speaker 1: to suggest police even have a suspect or even a
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  Speaker 1: person of interest. I mean, do you have you do
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  Speaker 1: you know anything to suggest that there's a person of interest,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't nothing. That is what is so scary
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  Speaker 1: about it. Again, in the shadows of TCU, Texas Christian Universe,
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  Speaker 1: our City, this co ed Molly Mathieson found dead. Still
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  Speaker 1: waiting for an update from police. The twenty two year
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  Speaker 1: old found dead in the bathroom of her rented apartment
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  Speaker 1: by her own mother. While she was not and Allan
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  Speaker 1: has established enrolled at TCU, she was set to graduate
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  Speaker 1: from a local college, which one was the Tarrant County College.
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  Speaker 1: She was about to graduate from. Tarrant County College is
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  Speaker 1: where she was attending and she started there in the
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  Speaker 1: last summer. So we're waiting to find out the very
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  Speaker 1: latest on that, other than the cause of death. Again,
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