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NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Wednesday, 02/25/26 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: M fall.
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  Speaker 2: System's gone clear.
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  Speaker 1: We lift.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? Everyone? We're back for a Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: edition of the NBA Show has always got my guy,
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  Speaker 2: Matt here, one of my favorite shows of the week
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  Speaker 2: to do every single week. But Matt, how you doing
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  Speaker 2: Last time we did a show, we were pretty on
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  Speaker 2: top of it. If you remember those the Wizards say
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  Speaker 2: were Darry Richmond and the Landa Williams both had pretty
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  Speaker 2: big games. So, but how you doing your Cavaliers six
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  Speaker 2: and one since the acquisition of James Harden. Gotta feeling
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  Speaker 2: pretty good over there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I need to pour one out
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  Speaker 3: for a Canari Richmond considering he's no longer even like
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  Speaker 3: DFS viable because he's not even on any slates anymore.
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  Speaker 3: So that stinks. But yeah, we got that called out
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  Speaker 3: pretty nicely. You are all over that Alandis Williams call.
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  Speaker 3: Like again, before everyone was on him, he was under
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  Speaker 3: one percent on last night. I know that one guy
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  Speaker 3: won the whatever it was at night, fifteen or eighteen
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  Speaker 3: dollars with both of them, they both smashed almdis especially,
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, that always feels good. I wish I had
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  Speaker 3: played them, but at least it feels good. To talk
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  Speaker 3: about them. Yeah, man, Calves have been been really fun
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  Speaker 3: to watch into the Hardened trade just feels like they
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  Speaker 3: got more juice, Like their locker room vibes are back
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  Speaker 3: from last year. I don't know what happened, they just
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  Speaker 3: kind of got stagnant obviously. The Hardened injury news I
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  Speaker 3: hope doesn't throw a wrench into anything. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 3: seeing that he's trying to play tonight, so we'll see
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  Speaker 3: what happens there. But yeah, man, exciting times. Can't wait
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  Speaker 3: for the playoffs to start. They can't start sooning off
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  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, But as far as Tonico's
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  Speaker 3: always look forward to these Wednesday shows with you. We
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  Speaker 3: got a fun slate tonight, a true sprint slate where
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  Speaker 3: first game starts at seven thirty, last game starts at eight.
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  Speaker 3: So we're excited to break this one down with ye.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely a ton of injury news as always at
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  Speaker 2: this point in season. Couple tanking teams on the slate.
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  Speaker 2: Really just two I guess Memphis and Sacramento kind of
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  Speaker 2: the main guys. But yeah, I just saw sean' sup
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  Speaker 2: posted that Harden's gonna play through the injury. Sounded like
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't going to be too big of an issue.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's his non shooting hands, so hopefully
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  Speaker 2: the shooting has not affected too much. You don't only
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  Speaker 2: use your off ball thumb as much, so hopefully everything's
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  Speaker 2: good there. But yeah, big win for the Calves last night,
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  Speaker 2: beating the Knicks at home. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: little the Calves at all, because they've been playing really
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  Speaker 2: good with James Harden and their offense looks great. The
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  Speaker 2: defense looks really good with Moby out there. But I
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  Speaker 2: felt like sense a buck. Yeah, I was gonna say
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that that loss for the Knicks, it
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  Speaker 2: was more it was more about the Knicks losing the
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  Speaker 2: game than the Cavs winning, because it's not like the
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  Speaker 2: Calves really dominated in that game. It was just the
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  Speaker 2: Knicks went ice cold in the second half. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: either way, it wins a win. I do think that
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  Speaker 2: they'll be able to kind of hold their own if
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  Speaker 2: not come out of the East. So, yeah, what are
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts after that win last night?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I agree with you like about how that
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  Speaker 3: specific game played out. The only counter I would I
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  Speaker 3: would throw at you is that like this team doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter how you beat the Knicks. Like the Knicks have
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  Speaker 3: been a real wrench in their side, just their physicality.
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  Speaker 3: When they played earlier in the year. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was on Christmas, the Calves out played the Knicks for
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  Speaker 3: forty four minutes. I don't know if you remember that game.
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  Speaker 3: They were up sixteen going into the fourth quarter, but
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  Speaker 3: lost that game just because they got dominated inside. Mitchell
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  Speaker 3: Robinson eight, Allen and Mobley's lunch had like five offensive
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  Speaker 3: rebounds in the fourth quarter alone. So yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think the Calves like played amazing last night. I do
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  Speaker 3: think it was a lot of the Knicks losing as
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  Speaker 3: opposed to the Calves winning. But to beat that team
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  Speaker 3: from where the Calves stand just feels good. Like I'm
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  Speaker 3: not overstating it. I don't think it means a time
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  Speaker 3: going into the playoffs. But again I'll go back to
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  Speaker 3: just I like the vibes of this team right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at the numbers, a lot of the same
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  Speaker 2: kind of I mean, thirty three offense or sorry, only
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  Speaker 2: eleven offensive rebounds for the next last game, but I
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  Speaker 2: believe Mitch robb had hit eight of those, so he
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  Speaker 2: continues to play really well. Against the Cavs front court.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, yeah, still kind of a statement win.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's always big to beat the Knicks, especially
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  Speaker 2: you kind of mentioned that they've always kind of had
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  Speaker 2: their number as of late. But yeah, we'll see. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: they maybe that's the Easter comments matchup in the finals.
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  Speaker 2: I still think that Detroit's going to be the team
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  Speaker 2: to come out of the East, but Cleveland's definitely making
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  Speaker 2: a case for it, as we did.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know, like last week when we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about this. I think it was probably the last show
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  Speaker 3: he did. I could tell you were much higher on
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  Speaker 3: Detroit than I was for their playoff you know, future
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  Speaker 3: and success. I didn't realize you were all the way
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  Speaker 3: and you think they're going to come out of the East,
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  Speaker 3: especially with the Calves and now you know Tatum looking
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  Speaker 3: like he might be back. Yeah, I'm we're completely on
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  Speaker 3: different Usually we're on the same page on a lot
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  Speaker 3: of stuff. We're just different here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that the little bit of experience that
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  Speaker 2: they got last year in the and the playoffs will
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  Speaker 2: help them a ton. But I mean, they clearly have
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  Speaker 2: a big issue with their three point shooting. I just
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  Speaker 2: think that their dominance inside and their defense can win
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  Speaker 2: them some series, and it's not. I think the East
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  Speaker 2: is there's a lot of hole spoke in every single
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  Speaker 2: team the I agree, maybe minus Boston once they get
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  Speaker 2: Tatum back. But you still got to wonder what to
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  Speaker 2: what level, like what percentage of platerum are we actually
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  Speaker 2: getting probably like something like that.
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  Speaker 3: It always throws like it's always weird to throw a
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  Speaker 3: guy in, like even a guy as good as Tatum,
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  Speaker 3: like so late into the season when guys have kind
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  Speaker 3: of gotten used to playing a certain way, Like everyone
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  Speaker 3: has to adjust to playing with Jason Tatum because he's
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  Speaker 3: the best player, but that still takes an adjustment. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, like if I think Boston's gonna come
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  Speaker 3: out of the East. But to your point, I think
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  Speaker 3: you can poll holes in every team like that's up
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  Speaker 3: up top. So you know, between Boston, New York, Cleveland,
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  Speaker 3: and Detroit, I guess just because Detroit has been the
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  Speaker 3: best team in the regular season so far, so you
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  Speaker 3: can't like just discount that. I struggle to see it
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  Speaker 3: be anyone else, but I do think it could be
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  Speaker 3: any of those four teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I think that the path getting to
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  Speaker 2: the Eastern even Eastern Conference finals will kind of matter
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  Speaker 2: the most, Like whoever's got the easiest path will probably
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  Speaker 2: matter the most because some of those teams will have
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  Speaker 2: to play each other in the second round.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 2: All right, say it's up to a few people in
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  Speaker 2: Chad Jordan Newan's been here since six thirty one am
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  Speaker 2: Pacific time. Marque Sports Para Bay always here, Nate d
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  Speaker 2: Philly Phantom I guts shot a cup people in the
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  Speaker 2: discord last night, our guy coach sev took down the
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  Speaker 2: Mini Max, and then Shaloub came into the NBA streets
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  Speaker 2: and had a really good night there, take down a
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  Speaker 2: couple of those single entry contests to shout out to
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  Speaker 2: you guys. All Right, we'll jump into the first game
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  Speaker 2: of the slate. San Antonio Spurs and the Toronto Raptors.
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  Speaker 2: Raptors are on a back to back after the loss
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  Speaker 2: to the Thunder last night and then the Spurs coming
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  Speaker 2: off of a win in Detroit. Two really really strong
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  Speaker 2: defenses facing off. But still, I mean, I mentioned it
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  Speaker 2: last night with the match of verse. Okay, see, I
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  Speaker 2: just don't really see a situation where Toronto can compete
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  Speaker 2: with these these good defenses. The Spurs up there with
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  Speaker 2: basically okay see in Detroit is like the same style
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  Speaker 2: of defense. They are one of the best rebounding teams
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  Speaker 2: in the league, top two in defensive rebounding, top seven
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  Speaker 2: in transition defense, and then one of the best rim
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  Speaker 2: protecting teams in the league. The Raptors are a team
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  Speaker 2: that likes to get to get to the basket, like
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  Speaker 2: one of the top offensive room frequency teams in the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: But Raptor has been pretty good as well. They're top
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  Speaker 2: nine or top six in defensive rating, top nine rebounding,
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  Speaker 2: top three transitions, so doing a really good job keeping
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  Speaker 2: things in the half court. But they are still a
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  Speaker 2: bottom ten room defense and bottom nine three point defense,
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  Speaker 2: So there's definitely some areas we could see San Antonio
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  Speaker 2: take advantage of.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 2: Saw Devin Vessel have a huge game last night and
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  Speaker 2: then Wemby really took over in the second half of
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  Speaker 2: the game. Was just amazing on defense against the Pistons
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  Speaker 2: that one, not letting them get any easy buckets around
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  Speaker 2: the basket. But for this one, what are you looking
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  Speaker 2: at from a fantasy perspective? I guess decent enough total,
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  Speaker 2: but we do have some better value and better overall
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  Speaker 2: totals in some of these other games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not a ton that I like here. For me,
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  Speaker 3: it's honestly like playing you know, one, two, three lineups.
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  Speaker 3: The only I think guy that I would make a
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  Speaker 3: priority if that is Wemby, just because I think we'll
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  Speaker 3: have money, we will have money to spend up. Like
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  Speaker 3: it's not the greatest spot in the world, but he's
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  Speaker 3: you know, spot proof, Like he can go off in
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  Speaker 3: any matchup. We just saw it in Detroit. I love
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  Speaker 3: that he went nuts in the second half. Kind of
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  Speaker 3: carry that over into the night. You're never gonna get
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  Speaker 3: like massive, massive minutes from him, but he can do
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  Speaker 3: it in thirty minutes, he can do it in twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's just an alien. So Wemby's the guy for
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  Speaker 3: me in this game. Other than that, Like it isn't
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  Speaker 3: to say I don't think like Castle, you know, Fox
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  Speaker 3: couldn't get there. I just think there's guys I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to prioritize more at those positions. Wemby would be the
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  Speaker 3: only guy for me. But even him, Like if I'm
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  Speaker 3: just playing one lineup, it's not like he's a lock
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  Speaker 3: for me here. I like him, but he's not a lock.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you see it? Do you see it
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  Speaker 3: any differently?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Wemby's pretty good, but I do agree
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  Speaker 2: with you. We will have to talk about Jylan Duran
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  Speaker 2: and Jared Allen who looked like they're in pretty good spots,
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  Speaker 2: Sengoon and some of the Warriors guys, and then the
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  Speaker 2: okay see guys. Some of them have du eligibility can
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  Speaker 2: get to two of Wemby, Duran and Jared Allen, but
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  Speaker 2: he's eleven k now did play the most minutes he's
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  Speaker 2: played in a game since October thirtieth, thirty six minutes
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  Speaker 2: last game. I feel like there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: like a motivation factor for Wemby, kind of seeing the
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  Speaker 2: MVP race tightening up a little bit, like maybe he's
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  Speaker 2: thinking that he has a chance to get there. You
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  Speaker 2: think anything like that. I mean, because Caid had a
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  Speaker 2: really bad game against against the Spurs, pretty big win
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  Speaker 2: for San Antonio there, and then Shay is obviously not playing,
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  Speaker 2: Yokic's one game removed from being ineligible, and also the
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  Speaker 2: Nuggets are playing pretty bad right now, so I think
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  Speaker 2: that there's a chance Wen we could sneak into the
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  Speaker 2: like towards the top of the MVP odds. I kind
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  Speaker 2: of think there's a little bit like we know that
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  Speaker 2: he's very driven about these sort of things, Like the
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  Speaker 2: All Star game was a pretty big example of MVP
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  Speaker 2: means a lot more than an All Star game. But
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  Speaker 2: I could see I could see him like really turning
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  Speaker 2: it up in the final stretch of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, that hadn't even I was more thinking that, Like
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  Speaker 3: I thought that game against Detroit was kind of just
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  Speaker 3: a big game on the schedule. You know, they only
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  Speaker 3: played twice a year, Detroit. His tops in the East,
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  Speaker 3: San Antonio is also very good. I like your angle
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  Speaker 3: a lot better, Like he is live for it, just
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of these candidates are dropping like flies.
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  Speaker 3: So it's almost, you know, the war the attrition, Like
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  Speaker 3: it's just who can stay healthy. Man, that's a good
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  Speaker 3: angle to take. Like I think it's tough like to say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna lock Wembian because of that, but man like
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  Speaker 3: that certainly doesn't hurt his his case for me at least.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are what three games back from the thunder
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  Speaker 2: right now, and they have a five and a half
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  Speaker 2: game lead over the third place team, which is the Rocket,
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  Speaker 2: so really just once seem they're looking up to catch
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  Speaker 2: right now. So I think that you know, ocus, he's
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  Speaker 2: still injured. Their winning games, but they're yah h.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I am. I am back, guys. It was
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  Speaker 3: Rio's internet. I think that uh might have gone out,
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  Speaker 3: so you got me for just a minute. We'll see
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  Speaker 3: if he can uh hop back on here. Let me
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  Speaker 3: pull up this stuff to share the screen. Sorry about this, guys,
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  Speaker 3: it's a little bit short notice from me.
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  Speaker 4: But let me see what I can do here, all right,
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  Speaker 4: pulling this stuff up right now, give me a second, guys.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'm pulling up. I got the stone pulled up.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about We're on this game right here, so yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I might as well just keep talking about it and
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  Speaker 3: see if Rio can hop back on.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: For like, from a DFS perspective, outside of Wembley, who
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  Speaker 3: we had talked about, I'm not sure there's that much else.
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  Speaker 3: I see Fox getting a little bit of ownership. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not sure I really buy that. I think he's a
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  Speaker 3: fine play at seven K, like price is down, so
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  Speaker 3: don't hate it. But for me hard to say he's
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  Speaker 3: like a priority. Other than that I mean, I think
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  Speaker 3: you can take shots on guys in tournaments, but nothing
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  Speaker 3: really that stands out from the Toronto side. Uh, nothing
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  Speaker 3: really to like here. Again, I think you can take
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  Speaker 3: shots on guys and tournaments perdle, you know projects, Okay
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  Speaker 3: for forty four hundred you know, one of these games,
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  Speaker 3: I think you're gonna get him to really exceed that
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  Speaker 3: forty four hundred dollars tag, and then he'll probably be
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  Speaker 3: higher because he has been for basically his entire career.
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  Speaker 3: There we go, he's back.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry about that. My WiFi has been really spotty in
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  Speaker 2: the last couple of days, and there's no guarantees that
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be able to finish the show, but I'll
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  Speaker 2: try to go to a hot spot on my laptop
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  Speaker 2: if anything else happens.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're cool. I just was based on what had
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  Speaker 3: happened a few weeks ago. I was worried it was me,
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  Speaker 3: so I left the stream, came back, put on, put
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  Speaker 3: up the stone, and we can just talk talk through
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  Speaker 3: it as quick as we can while you're on here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember where I left. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was kind of touch on Wemby, But you have seen
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Sefan Castle three strong shooting performances in a row sixty
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  Speaker 2: five percentury shooting in twenty five minutes per game. I
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: think there's a good chance for some open looks for
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: him here with Wenby debating so much attention, I think
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: kind of the same thing for Vassel and Julian Chimpenney,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: two guys coming off of really hot shooting nine raptors,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more vulnerable around three point line, but
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  Speaker 2: probably a little too thin to get there. Did you
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: have anything on the raptor side of things, Nah?
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  Speaker 3: I think all these guys, like their main guys, you
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  Speaker 3: can take shots on in tournaments, but picking on the
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  Speaker 3: spurs is more of a fool's error than anything these days,
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  Speaker 3: and just with some other really good spots tonight, I
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  Speaker 3: don't see it personally in limited lineups, not that I
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  Speaker 3: would be like again, I want to make it clear
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be like exing them out if I were
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  Speaker 3: playing one fifty like you, But in limited lineups are
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  Speaker 3: just not priorities at all, and I doubt I get there.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think the guys you're looking
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  Speaker 2: to are the same ones mentioned last night. It's quickly
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  Speaker 2: and Barrett for me, Barnes is just so reliant on
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  Speaker 2: scoring around the basket, and then he also got seven
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  Speaker 2: stalks last game. Like, if you think that's gonna happen
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  Speaker 2: most nights, which it likely won't, then you should play him.
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  Speaker 2: But if not, you're probably gonna be underweight. I'm probably
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  Speaker 2: gonna be fullfading him, and he's also questionable, so that
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  Speaker 2: could open up a little bit of value, will make
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  Speaker 2: all of those guys Ingram Quickly and Barrett much much better.
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  Speaker 2: I think Barrett would be the guy that I'd look
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  Speaker 2: to though, just cheapest and coming off of a couple
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  Speaker 2: good games, play more minutes as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The only other guy I did shout that, like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's like Smash May is Perl forty
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  Speaker 3: four hundred One of these games. He's likely to really
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  Speaker 3: exceed value at that price and then be priced higher
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  Speaker 3: because he's never been a forty four hundred hours player
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  Speaker 3: when he's playing real minutes and he's not like there yet,
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  Speaker 3: but his projection is decent enough for he's at least
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  Speaker 3: in the pool for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I agree with that. Which game do we have next?
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  Speaker 2: On the Stone?
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  Speaker 3: We had the thunder Pistons game first, but we went
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  Speaker 3: Spurs Raptors. So let's talk Thunder Pistons. And sorry, I'm
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: trying to like center this.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: But I could. I could actually get my good sabers
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and back up here.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Give me one, right, so and then if you go
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: out again, I'll just run it live and I'll pull
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: this back up. So bear with us, guys, appreciate it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I should be back now. Let me get this game up,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: all right. So we got okay see at Detroit. I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: gonna be a new look for Okay see then what
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: we saw most of the season and last night. But
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: they'll be without Shay no j Dubb, no Chet he's doubtful. Caruso,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Hartenstin and AJ Mitchell should all be out for this
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: game as well. Matchup change in a big way, So
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: don't really think it's worth reading off the numbers too
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: much for the season long stuff for the Thunder, but
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Detroit looking at bounce back after the loss to the
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Spurs two nights to go at home. Both these teams
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: will play similar style of defenses when they are healthy,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: which is taken away the rim scoring number one and
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: number two rim defense from an effective field goal percentage standpoint.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: This season, but they're both bottom ten and bottom five
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and three point defense this season, expecting Okay season rim
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: defense to be much worse. They're a lot more attackable
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: around the basket, and we take away Hard and Sign
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: and Shed, and they also become a pretty average to
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: below average rebounding team when you take away those two
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: guys as well. And to the point above, I was
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: looking at some of the three man lineups with SGA,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Head and Caruso off the court, and then even adding
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: like Heart and Sign in there, but the SGA, Shed
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: and Cruso lineups that feature none of them, they go
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: from one hundred point three with those three on the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: court to one hundred and twenty four defensive rating with
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: all three off the court, which would be one of
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the worst defensive ratings in the NBA of the season.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Is basically, any three men line that does not include
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Cheddar Cruso is gonna be seeing a really big dip
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: in defensive rating. So I do think that the Pistons
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: offense should be able to bounce back here tonight. But
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: with the Okay see injuries that they're gonna be dealing
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: with tonight, I think we're gonna have to look at
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: these guys for values, but what are you prioritizing right now?
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there is blowout concern here obviously, because Detroit is
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: really good, especially at home. Okay, see second half of
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: a back to back missing a lot of their best guys.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: That said, like, you have to at least look at
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: the OKC guys, namely the two Williams. Is the big
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: guys inside Jalen and Kenrich, Like they're just missing too
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: much in there for them not to both play big minutes.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: You know, tags are higher than they were a couple
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: of weeks ago or a couple of months ago, but
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: they're still probably not where they should be for like
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: this specific role. Like the matchup's tough, but the role
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: they're gonna have is just too good to ignore. So
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: both the Williams is Aaron Wiggins fifty two hundred, I
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: mean solid cog in the machine type, like he's not
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: a muss player for me, but small forwards always weak,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: so I have no problem playing him there. Isaiah Joe
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: fifty five hundred seem steep for him, but I think
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: he's got upside at that tag. Still, I don't love
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: the matchups. I don't want to go too crazy with
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Oka see, but I think you want some okay see
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: exposure here Cason Walls Monster Game last night. He's probably
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: too pricey for me, but worth a shout. I think
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: it's really the Williams is Joe and Wiggins, maybe maybe
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: McCain like as a deep sleeper. How do you see it?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on the both the Williams
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: guys being the ones I want to prioritize. I should
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: think that they match up decently where they both are
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: capable of stretching the court and both have some playmaking upside.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Like Jaylen Williams, we've seen him fort with if not
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: put up triple doubles before, and then Kenridge is like
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the I don't know, I guess like kind of compare
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: him to like a Kyle Anderson type of player where
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: you can run some offense through him, maybe a little
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: bit back now, Yeah, it's pretty similar. I think he's
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit better at shooting the ball, but pretty
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: compared offensive games there. So I think those two are
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: pretty solid, like fine coming in with both of them
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: as well. I think that it'll be Brandon Carlson backing
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: up Jalen Williams and then probably seeing some case and Wallace.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I don't really know if they're going to go into
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: like the Burks Barnheisers of the world in this game
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: as long as it's closed, but I would expect Aaron
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Wiggins to get some of the backup power forward and
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: some small four minutes between ken Rich Wiggins and Dort
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and then yeah, kiss Wallace. I mean he's really really come. Honestively,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be in a very They're
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: gonna have some big decisions to make in the offseason
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: because he's he's up for a contract extension. Basically have
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to decide what they're gonna do with like Hartenstein and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: lou Dort and some of these I think you've been
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Carusa will have to be in the conversation there. But
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it's coming off of a his first double double two
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: games ago and then match his career high in points
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: last night with twenty seven. Over the last six games,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: he's been playing great. His involvement percentage increased from twenty
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: one and a half percent to thirty four percent. He's
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: on ball much more from thirteen percent to twenty three percent.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Potential assist up from four point seven to nine point three.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: So I think that he is going to be the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: focal point on offense. But to the point you made
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that if it does blow out, probably he'll be one
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: of the guys getting cut. So I would consider maybe
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: pairing him up with a Detroit guy like a like
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: if I played Cason, or if I play like two
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to three. Okay, see guys, I'd probably want to come
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: in with like a cad or Jalen Duran in particular.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: But then you're even considering like Asar and Tobias Harris
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: will be guys that would be playing deeper into the game,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And I'll like your ISAA Joe Shadow as well. He's
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: been playing great over the last six games fifty five
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and a half percent from three point range, twenty percent
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: plus usage in four of his last seven games. The
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: three point line is where the Pistons are most vulnerable,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So I do think that it's a pretty solid night
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: for Joe to get some more scoring opportunity here. Be
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: anything on the Detroit side, We're gonna see a decently
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: tough matchup for Kid against Dort and Cason Wallace. They've
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: done a great job against k over the last like
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: four seasons.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as you mentioned, it's it's difficult because you do
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: kind of have to like throw out the numbers with
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: this lineup that okay See he's rolling rolling out tonight
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: like Caid. I don't love the match up on paper still,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: but he's got to be in play just because I
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: think we'll probably have the money for him, not projected
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: for crazy ownership. He was really chalky last time out.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I guess, like all in all, I do think you
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: have to get some of the Okac side of this game,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: but I don't love this game from a DFS perspective,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: like even with those guys out for okay See, because
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I think that while okay See is too cheap here
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: for the roles, they're not like so cheap where you
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: have to just jam them in. I think you want
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit of exposure, but I don't think you
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: want to go crazy with it. I don't love the
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Detroit side. I think that, like outside of Caid, there's
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: just not really a priority for me. I could see
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Duran doing work here. He's been playing really well since
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: he came back. You know, seventy seven hundred not gonna
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: get a ton of ownership. The more I think about it,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: just thinking about how this slate's gonna play out and
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: how much just chalk we're seeing how condensed ownership has been.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I think you could get off the off the beaten
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: path a little bit with Duran, who all of a
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: sudden is in a much much better spot here against
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: just a backup loaded okay see front line. So yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be Durn for me more than Caid.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: It's just tough because of the center spot. You mentioned
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: a couple other guys that are really in play, although
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I do think you mentioned Duran in that group.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Durren was a guy that was really sending out.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's him and Jared Allen I have a
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: ton of interest in. But I could really see Duran
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: popping off in a big way here. Like you mentioned
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: that he's going up against some pretty poor defenders and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: if anything, undersize guys, and he's just a freak athlete.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: And I mean the numbers even back it up there.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: The offensive rebounding numbers dropped from thirty one point four
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: percent when Hardsight is on the core to twenty point
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: four with him off the court. The rebounding is down
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to twenty nine percent, which is about season about a
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: NBA average, they're much better with those guys on the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: court twenty six point four percent with both hard and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Sign and Chad on the court the season, So could
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: see a spar where during actually Flour's is like a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty game. I think that he's got a ton
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: of upside here. So I really really like that. But
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I agree with you on k like you have to
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: have some level of interest in him just because of
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the lack of spend ups on tonight's Say, we have
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: only two guys price above ten k, but only three
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: guys price above nine K, and one of those guys
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: is Scottie Barnes, So really only have four guys to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: choose from tonight to spend up on.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the hardened stuff like is a little
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: bit suspect just because like, yeah, he's gonna play through it,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: but like I don't know if I can completely trust it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Like again, not saying that I'm gonna do anything with
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: that info, but like would it shock me if he
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: had to leave the game or like no, clearly not.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know how it could shock anyone at this point.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Or he's just deferring a lot more right, might not
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: be taken as many shots as he normally would in
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: this situation.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Or he plays or that, and maybe he plays less
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: because of not even just the injury back second half
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: of a back to back. They're obviously sitting guys already
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: like there are holes to pope there for sure. But
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: back to the I really like the Durham shout, like
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: I think he could smash here. And I do think
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: that one thing that goes a little bit unaccounted for
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: in NBA DFS is like the other side of guys
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: being out, Like clearly everyone knows to go to the
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: OKC guys because they're the direct beneficiaries of Holm Grin
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and Hartenstein, etceter. Being out, But man, the spot just
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: gets so much better for the other side there. So
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I'm in on Durham like for sure.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, projection systems and I'm not even saying this as
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: like a like conspiracy thing, but they just don't take
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: into account opposing team's injuries, like they just can't do it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: They really just kind of take into account season long,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and like historical defensive numbers DVP stuff, they will take
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: into account opposing team's defense is getting much much worse.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I think that he is definitely worthy of a couple
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: more points tonight, Like I'm gonna be definitely over on
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Jalen Duran for sure. I think that's it. On the
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Detroit side, I think like Tobiassr, Duncan, Danis Jenkins are
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: all worthy of keeping in the player pool. Asar was
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: getting cut down by Ron Holland last game because Ron
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Holland kind of got hot and brought a lot of energy.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Still only shot one of six from deep. We don't
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: really need to worry about that too much, and I
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: think they should win this game fairly handedly. But a
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: little bit of interest in a SAR, just against a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: team that will be without some of its better players,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: better ball handlers. I think that he's somewhat interesting, all right,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Warriors at Memphis. A lot of interests to talk through here.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: On the Warriors side, Steph Porzingis and Danthony Melton will
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: be out tonight. Obviously, Jimmy Butler is gone or he's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: done for the year, and then Jonathan Commingiet traded away
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: questionable attack and Draymond Green would I would assume he
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: misses tonight back to back, still kind of fighting for
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: play in positioning, so maybe he plays, but I think
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: they should be able to win this game without him.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Grizzlies just have a questionable tag on Kylie Anderson on
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: top of all the guys that have been missing. But
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: if Anderson were to miss, probably open up minutes for
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Ryan Repair again. But both these team just playing so
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: poorly on defense right now. We're He's given up a
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: lot of paint points. Grizzlies also given up a ton
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: of paint points as well, but they are really big
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: three point funnel and the Warriors are going to take
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: a ton of threes. Are also one of the worst
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: rebound teams in the NBA in the second half of
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the season, So a lot to like about the Warrior's
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: side tonight. Expect pretty big minutes from the same guys
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: we've been expecting big minutes from Pods Santos and Moses
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Moody in particular. But if you want to talk through
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: some of this Warrior stuff, I think we're definitely gonna
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: get into a good amount of Warriors tonight.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: So yeah, before I even get to the Warriors, I
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: think I want to bring up a broader like Slate
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: kind of overview for me and just thinking about this
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: out loud and talking about it because we like talking
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: the strategic stuff, like I get why Jalen Williams and
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Kenrich Williams are so popular, especially Jalen Williams. But I
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: think there are so many good plays on this slate,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: and as I mentioned earlier, there's chalk that's just condensing
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: so much in NBA DFS these days that I do
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: think that getting off the path the beaten path in
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: a spot or two makes a lot of sense. I
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: don't know if this is the spot for it because
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: all these guys are getting ownership, but man, I like
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: these guys just as much as I like the okay
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: see guys, because I do think Draymond Misses I like
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: this spot a lot better. I think this game environment
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: sets up really really well from a DFS perspective. De
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Santos I've turned the corner on him completely. I mean,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: he's just really really productive, like when he's on the floor,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: especially with this team right now. So sixty one hundred
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: more fairly priced than he's been. I don't think he's
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: overpriced at all. I like him a ton here Pods
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: we were both on last night. He still looks really good,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: even better with no Melton here. Al Horford will probably
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: get the biggest bump with Draymond out Like those three guys.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I like a ton here Moses Moody fifty nine hundred,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Like he's not the most productive, but he plays so
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: much and he can get hot again weak small forward position.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I like Golden State a lot here. It's just such
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: a good spot. Gary Payton with the dual shooting guard
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: small forward eligibility. I like him a lot. Will Richard
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: you can kind of get exposure to this game without
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: getting it at ownership with him. So yeah, I think
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: there's a ton to like about Golden State here. Probably
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: the most appealing team on the entire slate from my perspective.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: How do you see it?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with everything you said. I mean, they're
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: gonna have They're running out a really tighter rotation, which
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: is very rare for a Steve Kerr led team, just
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: with how thin they are. I think they're even missing
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: one of these other guys that would have been playing
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: minutes now if you were in. I think his name
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: is Nate Williams, yeah, or who is it is? Genathan Williams.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I don't I forget his name, but they have I mean,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: they realistically could have a nine man rotation to potentially
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: even eight if Draymond were to miss, because I don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna be giving this malevi Leons guy much
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: running a game that they want to win. So to
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: your point, POD's been really really good last six games.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: His role hasn't really changed too much, but he's just
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: playing more minutes and is adding more potential assists to
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: with that line, he's also rebounding the ball really well.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: He had like, what like sixteen rebounds last night. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: think that's what he ended with, but fifteen rebounds, oh,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: fifteen rebounds and back to back games as well, So
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: he's just been rebounding that crab out of the ball. Yeah,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: He's always been a really solid rebounder for his position.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Kind of reminds me of a who was it, Like, Oh,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: there's another guard that's just a really good rebound I
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: forget he's a really good offensive rebounder. But POD's has
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: been really really good there just and taking away Draymond
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: is gonna only help that a little bit more because
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Al Horfitz not really guy that's like chasing down boards
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: what Pods and Gi Santos will be. But gee, another
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: guy that's been much more involved on offense, adding more
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: of an ball roll as well as potential assists are
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: up from two point three to seven point five over
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: his last six games. Got double double last night. Good
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: chance to get that here versus a really small and
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: really bad front court and bad Grizzies rebounding team. I
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: agree with you on Moody. I think that he's one
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: of the better offensive options that they have now over
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the last six game shooting sixty five percent true shooting percentage,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: sixty point two points per game, Really good scoring upside
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: for here against a team that gives up a ton
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of threes. Grizzlies are bottom seven and three point frequency
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: this season. And then yeah, Al Horford should be locked
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: in for pretty solid minutes if and when Draymond does
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: get get ruled down five point three k power forward
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: center really easy click or you don't have to waste
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: a center spot on him. Gonna be playing probably twenty
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: seven to twenty eight minutes regardless, but maybe he tops
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: thirty if Draymond's out, and then the final grouping of
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: like the rich Will Richard Pote, sorry Post and then Peyton.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: If Draymond's out, then it's gonna be our Horford and
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Post getting most of the front court minutes. I think
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: they'll probably split the the front four minutes between Santos,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Horford and Posts. I'll be a MAX two of those
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: three guys which are probably just been getting less posts,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: which I'm totally fine with. I would be a MAX
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: two of Pod Spencer and Will Richard, and then a
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: MAX one of Gary Payton and Moses Moody. And then
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: if that's too restrictive of the Max one Peyton and Moody,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: you can just toss in Payton to the guard role
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Max to Pod Spencer, Richard and Gary Payton. But I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: feel like Moody is pretty safe regardless.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And then for the Memphis side, I just haven't really
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: needed these guys. I think it's really just been Jayvon
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Small is like the only guy that's really popping in
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: some of these perfect lineups. But different situation now because
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: they will be getting Tie Jerome back, Scotty Pippen Jr.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Is going to be getting his minutes extended a little
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: bit more per the coach. So I think there's only
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: two guys that I'm really considering, and that would be
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Jerome and Scottie Pippen if you believe that Ty Jerome
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: is a one point sixty six Fantasy points minute producer
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: like he has been the season, although only in like
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: one hundred something minutes, then he would still be in
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: play at six point one K because it's a good matchup,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and that would put him at like thirty nine DK
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: points in twenty two minutes or so. So still a
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: fine option if you really believe that he's going to
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: be putting up Jokic and the honest level numbers, which
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I just don't really believe, but he's done it every
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: single game. But Scott Pippen feels like the guy that's
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: best points per dollar in my opinion. What about you
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: for the Memphis Grizzlies.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Pippin the most for sure. I've just
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: struggled to get to Jerome in those minutes at this
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: price tag. He gets there every game. You've got revenge
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: on his side tonight too, So like, I get it
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: if you're playing him, But for me, I do like
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Pippin more. Doesn't look like anyone from Memphis is going
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: to get much ownership. I'm trying to think of that
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: guard that was the offensive rebounder that you couldn't think
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: of the guy that comes to my mind when you
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: say that is Josh Hart's like a really good offensive
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: rebounding guard. And then two guys for the Cavs, Craig
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Porter and Jalen Tyson both can rebound the ball. But
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think either of those guys were who you
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: were mentioning.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: So if it tells me to see if I could
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: find it.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Seemed like you were kind of going back with it,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: just trying to read your vibes.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to trying to remember it. Yeah, I
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: gotta keep thinking about it. Yeah, it's like on the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: tip of my tongue right now.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: It's tough though, because, like I think you can play
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: like five Golden State guys, so it naturally it makes
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: you want Memphis, but you don't need it, like with
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: how Memphis is priced, with how they're playing their their
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: guys right now in terms of minutes, like Golden State's
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: decide you want here, and I don't think you're making
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: a mistake playing a guy or two from Memphis. But
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think you have to force it at all.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I remember who it was. I was thinking of Peyton Prichard. Okay, Yeah,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: maybe the numbers don't really back it up, but there'd
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: be so many times where you just see him go
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: for offensive rebounds, like those back door where he just
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't get boxed out and he just comes down with
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: like three offensive rebounds randomly in the game. Be I
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: agree with you on the Memphis stuff. It's gonna be
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: pretty tough. I think I would be. I'm not gonna
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: be exing these guys out because there's a chance that
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: more minutes could open up if Kyle Nison would have missed.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: But I would be a Max one of all the guards.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That'd be Max one of Jerome, Pip and Small Clayton
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and Spencer. Again, if that's too restrictive for you, then
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: it could be a Max two, But I'm probably gonna
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: be a MAX two overall of Memphis, Max one of
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Jileen Wells and Ryan Rupair, and then Max one of
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Gigi Hendrix and Mayshek. I do think that Rupeer is
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: a guy to keep an eye on because he played
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: two thirteen minute rotations in each half. I think he
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: tied or was led the team in minutes last game,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: and they just need more length. So I think that
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: they like him so I'm kind of I got lucky
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: last time because I actually ended up accidentally clicking him
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: in single entry and he was like less than one
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: percent owned and it was the second best scorer on
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the Memphis Grizzlies that night.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I remember we talked about like that slate
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: leading up to it and about how we wanted to
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: get different. So I respect that you got on him
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: to kind of get different there. I ended up getting different,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: and I didn't play ray Nad that night and played
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: five Memphis, but that lineup is still do like numerous times.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: So it was tough to avoid on that slate after
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: you played Wemby and kid like because it was only
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: that three gamer. So the rupert call was like very
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: much outside of the box. It could have burned you,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: but it was worth it on that slate.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's just really no difference between ane of
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: these guys from a minute standpoint. The only difference is
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: that some of these guys are decent basketball players and
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: some of them are not. Like some of these guys
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: that will be they'll have times where they can put
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: up really strong permanent numbers like Jerome and GG and Pippin.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Like we know these guys are likely going to be
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: playing decently along the NBA careers, where like I don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: really know what to expect from like Omax and small
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: and some of these other guys. I would also keep
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: an eye on Omax Prosper because he's on a two
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: way deal and he's kind of quickly running out of games,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: so he could be just a d and pize and
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: he might be inactive, So you have to keep an
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: eye on that one leading up to the slate because
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: if he's if Anderson is in and O Max is
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: not starting, I would think that there's a decent chance
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: that O Max just doesn't play. Yeah, good chot, you're
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: talking about Gary Payton or Peyton Pritchard. I'm assume you're
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: talking about Gary Payton. For me, it's just he just
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't do enough in games to be viable in dfs.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: But uh, he is cheap and does have the shooting
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: guard small Ford eligibility. I just really never a guy
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: that plays Gearty paid personally.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I play. I've been playing him a little bit
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: recently just because his tag has been like very very
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: cheap and they've been in some good spots, so his
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: tag is now to the point where like I don't
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: really want to play him, especially if he's getting some ownership,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: which he is here. Like, I do think the spot
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: sets up well though, where like he could get a
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: bunch of stocks here because Memphis can be sloppy with
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: it and uh, you know, with no Draymond, Like, depending
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: on this game plays out, he could see the court more.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: So He's in play for me, but not a priority
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: is the best way to put it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will go to the next one, Sacramento Kings
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: at Houston Rockets. Sacramento pretty healthy. I guess they played
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: DeMar De Rozen and Russell Westbrook normal minutes last night,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: which really hurt the upside of Keegan Murray and Maximir
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: reynad Reno. Excuse me, I don't really know if they'll
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: do that Tonight just feels like a game where like
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: last game they were playing another tanking team, they were
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: kind of in control of the whole game, so they
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: probably just thought we can afford to win orre Tonight.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I definitely think they'll probably take it up a little bit,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: but the Rockets will be without Am and Thompson Tonight.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Should see Shepherd into the starting laeup and should make
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: him the chalk. He's playing on the slate, but for
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: really good reason. I mean, he's been great in any
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: of the games that Alman Thompson has missed in his
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: short career, outside of the first two where Rechipper only
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: played like five minutes, but pretty much every other game
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: he's been great and filling in for Alman Thompson. And
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I think that he's a guy that they'll need some
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: more out of as they get deeper to the playoffs,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: because there this team is like one of the worst
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: clutch teams in the NBA. They just turned the ball
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: over a ton, can't get any scoring, and it's kind
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: of weird because you got to Kevin Durant for this
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: kind of exact reason, but their clutch offense just looks
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: so bad right now. They're also turning the ball over
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: a ton. So I think adding a guy like Shepherd,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: who is not really your prototypical point guard, more of
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: like a like, I don't know, he's like a Peyton
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Pritchard almost like he's not going to be faciliting offense.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: He's like very much looking to score. But I do
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: think that he's taking a big step forward this year
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and they'll definitely need him tonight, So interesting to see
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: what happens here. But yeah, anything on the Kings for you,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: and then you can break down the Rockets. I assume
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the Kings will be pretty short.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, the Kings are tough because like they were
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: already tough and then they're going to play their guys
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: more minutes last game. I do think that like going
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: back to like the Reno, you know, interesting because again
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I always like guys that were like super popular in
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: the last slate then let the field down and now
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: they're getting no ownership. But he's not getting no ownership
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: because he let the field down. He's getting no ownership
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: just because of the like the com like just how
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: this slate plays out. So I think, like that's interesting,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: but nothing from Sacramento is a priority for me. Shephard
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: clearly for me at least looks like even better than
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: the OKAC guys, the best player on the entire slate,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Like outside you mentioned that he's played really well, when
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: when Thompson's been out, he's also just really just playing
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: really good ball right now. So I think he's got
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: one game out of his pass like six games under
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: like twenty eight DK points. Which is a fine score
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: for this tag. He's got thirty plus in a bunch
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: of those games. So if you're not playing, like, the
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: only reason not to play Sheppard here is ownership, and
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the ownership will be really really high. But he's far
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: too cheap for this spot. You could see him even
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: getting like, like, I'm not worried about the blowout with him,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: as I would be as much with him as I
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: would be for like their expensive guys. So yeah, Shepherd
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: just looks really really good here. I am worried about
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the blowout for the expensive guys like Durant getting some ownership,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Sengoon getting a bunch of ownership, and I get it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Like the spot's good, their price tags are good. I
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: do worry a little bit about their ultimate upside in
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: a game that I think they just cruise in. So
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: kind of just saw this this spot with Houston, who'd
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: they play the other.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Night where it was kind of this is Utah, Yeah, Utah?
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: So I mean Utah one night, Sacramento the next night,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: like basically the same thing, you know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the Kings are probably less competitive
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: than Utah this tonight. I just think that they are
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: much much worse teams, so I kind of agree with you.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: There's definitely pull spoke in both Katie and Sengoon. I
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: feel like the floor feels pretty good for saying gooon tonight.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I think that he's going to be running more offense.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: We saw him put up a triple double the last
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: game that am En missed, and KD was not that
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: good in that game, but that was against OKC, so
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: take it with someone with a grant as salt. KD
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: did have seventeen potential assists last game, twelve assists for
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: a double double. Yeah, I'm with you. I kind of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: feel like it's I don't know one or the other.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I don't really think I want to get to both
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: of them because then you're starting to like, what story
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: are you creating with your lineup? Playing both those guys
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: they just smash in twenty eight minutes each definitely possible,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: but you're also eating up a lot of salary tonight,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: So I would probably not want to come in with
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: both those guys in my line was. Personally, I do
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: think that Tari and Jabari are for sure and play
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: here with Jabari is coming off arguably his best game
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: of his career. Twelve or seventeen from the field, one rebound,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: shy of a double double. Just a massive game for him.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: But Tari is historically a much better permanent producer than Jabaris.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I would probably lean him field. Kind of agrees there,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: he's cheaper, different positionality. Both guys went over forty DK
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: points the last or the only game the allmend miss
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: this season. But just have a little bit more confidence
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: that Tari can do it on a night to night
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: basis than Jabari.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Any thoughts there, Yeah, I like Tari Moore, but both
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: are in play for sure. Man. I had a swap
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: last slate with Jabbari in it that I just didn't
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: get to and needless to say, I wish I had.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been playing well though. He's been definitely turning
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: a bit of a corner of this season, especially as
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: a blade, shooting the ball much better. He was in
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: a huge slump like right around the All Star break
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: or just before the All Star break, but been shooting
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: the ball really well and adding some rebounds. I don't
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: think that it's like such a big gap between the
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: two where Tari should be. I mean, I don't know
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: if it's going to come in thirty five for Tari
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: nine Jabari. I feel like it's probably closer to like
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: twenty five Tari, maybe like fifteen Jabari something like that,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: which kind of changes things a little bit. What do
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: you think there?
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: I think there's more sticker shock on Jabari's tag for
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, at least to me, I think the field
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: sees it that way, even though Tari is expensive for
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: how he's usually priced. Also like he's under sixty five hundred,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Jabbari is closer to seven K. So yeah, I guess
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: we got the whole family upstairs now. So yeah, yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I like Tari Moore, but I do think to your point,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: like there's no reason why he should be significantly higher rowned.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: So not sure how it's going to play out for
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: me in terms of the positionality stuff, but all in all,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I do think that they're similar plays. To your point,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Jabari has been playing good ball anyways, so yeah, they're
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: both in play here, and again kind of they're priced
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: in between Shepherd and the expensive guys, so you have
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: a little more leeway and a blowout with guys that
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: aren't super pricey.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at so, it's pretty much just that the
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: powerful position is fairly loaded for value. You have jaylen
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: ken Rich both power center eligible. GI is only power
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: forward al Horford's power for its center. Even Wiggins projects
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: is a better value than him. So I think that's
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: kind of the only reason that it's tougher to get
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: to Jabbari. But with that being said, if you do
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: run into another really hot game, like there's no reason
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: why he can't repeat it, it's another really really bad defense.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: On the other side, maybe it's just getting a little
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: bit more confidence and can repeat the performance that he
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: had against them. But I do think that Tari overall
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: is the better play. I'm not really sure I have
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: any rules that I want to set there, Like I
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: don't want to get too restricted with it, but I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: feel like it'd be just a max three overall, but
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: maybe even a max two of like the starters makes sense.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Any thoughts there on the rules. I'm usually usually come prepared,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: but I just don't really know how to handle this.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: The next I could see them doing really well even
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: limited minutes.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of a problem, Like it is a
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: small enough slate where, like you know they're gonna do
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: well in the minutes they're on the court. Here and
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: like it's always hard to project, like blowouts that are
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: so big that guys like aren't touching the floor on
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: the fourth But that's certainly at least a viable outcome here.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: It's tough, like I think you'll it's like that fine line,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: right because like if Sacramento stastes like just competitive enough,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I could see all the Rockets getting there if they
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: play enough minutes. But if Sacramento just stinks to bed
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: and they're not competitive like at all, I could see
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: none of the Rockets getting there like massive upside, except
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: for like Reed Sheppard, who I think is gonna get
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: there no matter what. So I think there are a
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: bunch of ways this is gonna play out. I don't
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: think you want to like avoid playing too much Houston,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: but I do think it's tough to see a scenario
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: where like all of their guys get there just based
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: on how Sacramento is. So yeah, it's it is difficult
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: to project, especially because we don't know what Sacramento is
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: gonna do, Like if they decide to play their good
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: players more, it makes me like the Houston side even more.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, maybe just max three overall and just don't
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: really get into the groups makes the most sense. But
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I actually do want to circle back to your Reno
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: show because I do think it's interesting, like he got
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: a slight price increase. I don't remember what he has
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: might have been like six k or fifty nine hundred
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: last slate, but yeah, same exact situation. Just a tougher matchup,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I guess. But like Houston hasn't been lights out defensively,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: and they're definitely more vulnerable down low when you take
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: away Steven Adams, the rebounding has taken a big kid.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: So I do think that Rayno, who has shown to
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: be a I mean really good rebounder in the NBA
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: so far, I think that he's definitely worthy of some
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: consideration tonight. All right, Cleveland Cavaliers at Milwaukee. Obviously no
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, Evan Moby tonight. And then we did get
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: news that James Harden is planning to play tonight. Still
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: questionable if I'm not mistaken yet, Still questionable right now,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: but would expect him to be back so for funky
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: forty dollars asking it sounds like Harden will play still
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: some minutes to go around. I would expect Jalen Tyson
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: and Sam merylt to slide into the starting lineup. But
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: any any thoughts of what you think that Cleveland we'll
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: do with the starters.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: No, I do think that it is Meryll and Tyson.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: You're gonna need more offense with both Mitchell and Mobley missing.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: And I like both Meryll and Tyson a lot here,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: a lot, a lot, two of my favorite plays on
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: the slate, unequivocally, especially because I think that we could
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: see Harden that defers a lot here, like no matter what,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: but especially with the thumb injury. So I like Merrill,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I like Tyson, I like Jared Allen a ton here.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Those three guys I think are all really really good plays. Alan.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: We talked about other centers we like, and I think
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: if Duran's gonna be half the ownership of Alan, I
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: like Duran Moore. But I like both of them a lot.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I think playing them both together makes a ton of
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: sense for me. So yeah, Alan, Tyson, Merrill I like
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: a ton here. Shrewder and Craig Porter Junior are both
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: at least intriguing to me just because of the hard
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: and stuff are already missing Mitchell, So I lean Shrewder,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: but Porter Junior is really really cheap, So yeah, I
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: want Cleveland exposure here. They're playing well in general, They're
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: in a really good spot. I don't think they skip
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: a beat in this matchup with both Mitchell and mobiley out,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: so I like the Cavs a lot here.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Yep, I agree with you. I think the line went
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: from like it was like eight and a half this
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: morning before the news came, and then it dropped to
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: three and a half for Cleveland with with the MOBILEI
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: and Mitchell news then the James harden And news. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: think that people were expecting to miss, but he's They're
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: back up to four right now, so still gonna be
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: a close game, and obviously Cleveland is still wanting to
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: win games, so I think they're gonna play this straight up.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: But agree with you. I think Tyson and Saint Merrill
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: pretty pretty strong place tonight. Milwaukee looks really bad defense,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: so he had a really good outing against Miami, but
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I'll kind of chalk that up to Miami just not
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: playing great on defense or a great offense. Excuse me,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: but Milwaukee's bottom four in defensive three point four frequency
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the season, so sets up really well for Sam Merrill,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: who is pretty much scoring dependent. But I mean he's
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: done it a couple of times lately. He had like
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: a like ten threes a couple of games ago against
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: who was that against? I went nine for ten against
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Washington ye, and then six for ten against Okay. See,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: So it's like he can get done against harder defenses.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I don't really say I'm not saying that Milwaukee is,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: but definitely a good spot for him to get a
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: ton of shots. And like you said, if Harden is
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: deferring more than he normally would if he were healthy,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: then that's good for him. It's really good for Jalen Tyson,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: who is kind of being deemphasized with James Harden getting
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: more actimated to the Cleveland rotations. But last night was
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: kind of a bounce back game for him. Twenty seven minutes,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: twelve eight to twelve points, eight rebounds, too, assist, twenty
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: nine DK points. I mean, he's a guy that we
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: know has really really good upside, So I think that
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: he bounces back in a pretty big way here, and
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: then I do want to get over the field on
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: whatever Dennis Schroeders ownership comes in that, because I remember
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you met him kind of when they first got him,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: that there's gonna be times where they need him. I mean,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like this is the time where you need
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: some really good on ball defense. There's like they really
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: have the only offensive weapons for Milwaukee are their guards,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: because Miles Turner does nothing Kuzma. I mean, he can
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: get hot at times, but more often than not that
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be bad. And then like Bobby Portis, they
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: should have that squared away with Jared Allen. So I
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: do think that they might even just ask Shorter to
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: play more minutes, regardless who that comes at the expensive.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like Sam Merril is the easiest one to
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: click on for him, like him to eat into. But
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: could see a situation like if Harden is just not
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: performing well, maybe they just give a gift Shorter a longer,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: a longer LEAs. So I definitely definitely think that he's
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: very much in play here.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Yees same. I also think, like not even from a
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: DF's refective, but a guy that could get more run
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: tonight because of everything you just said, is Kean Ellis.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Agree, I think that it's it's Dean Wade and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Keon Ellis that are kind of like the push and
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: pull because as they do, view Dean Wade as more
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: of like the point of attack defender, and I think
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: that's the same reason that they got Keon. So really,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I do think that Wade matches up a little bit
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: better tonight against KPJ and Ron Rowlins, because those are
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: two pretty big point guards. Pretty like they're big guards.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Ryan Rowlins has like a the wingspan of like a
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: seven foot guy, and then KPg is just a bigger
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: guard in general. So I think that Wade matches up
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: well there. But I do agree that this is kind
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: of the kind of the spot where they got I
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: got the Kennel, so I think that he will be
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: in play. Maybe maybe Wade gets into faul Troble. Maybe
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: he's just not playing well, playing kind of a lot
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: of minutes lately. So I think that I would max
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: one those two guys and maybe bump up Kean a
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: little bit because he is really cheap with the shooting
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: guard small Ford eligibility. But yeah, lots of like on
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: the Cleveland side and then Milwaukee, I feel like it's
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: you're really only considering three guys. It's the guards for me. KPJ,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Ryan Rollins, Cam Thomas always going to be leaning Kevin
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Porter juniors because he's got the much better role when
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: he's healthy. Did rolls inkle last night, but came back
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: and had like a I got double check. But I
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: feel like he went to the locker room for a
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: little bit and then had like a twenty plus minute
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: rotation when he.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Returned the monster last night. You absolutely needed him.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah he was, He was great, and I yeah, I
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: was hoping that I advoid that I did have Cam
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Thomas in one lineup, which was it felt really good
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: because you know, KBJ got injured. Also had Dyson Daniels
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: in that lineup, which also felt good because Jalen Johnson
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: got injured but didn't really come to fruition, but he played,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: got injured three minutes into the game and played the
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: next sixteen minutes and then basically the full third quarter.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: So really big second rotation, stint, go ahead.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say on that is like and
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: that this is just me talking out loud a little
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: bit A lot of times with injuries like that, especially
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: like you feel it the next day. More so not
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: saying that he's not going to play here, but like
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: maybe the adrenaline and just the not having that much
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: time off last night helped him, and then today he
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: feels it a little bit more. I don't think I'm
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: gonna play him, so I'm just giving up giving excuses
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: and reasons in my head, not why I'm not playing him.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: That's really all that this is.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like more often than not, we are
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: getting at least one good performance from these guards, So
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of interest in them. I would
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: just be a max one of Rawlins and KPJ because
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a hot hand approach for Cam Thomas.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: If he's doing well and one of those guys is not,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: then he'll play more minutes for one of those guys.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: So just next one KPg Rawlins, But a ton of
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: interest in all three of those guys for sure.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: And they're a volatile team right now. Like you look
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: at their last four games, They've got two wins by
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: double digits, two losses by big double digits, so kind
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: of never know what you're gonna get with them at
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: any given night, you know.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that kind of that makes me
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: like Shroder a little bit more, Like if they are
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: running away with it a little bit and they just
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: don't need to play Harden as many minutes as they
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: normally would. Then I feel like maybe shorter plays like
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: twenty eight tonight and Harden's at like thirty two.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sam, and I do think Harden's going to get
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: love on this late just because of the context of it,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: and just there aren't many spends up spend up options,
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: No Mitchell, no Mobiley like Harden, he is a tough
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: aid just because of all that stuff. But I do
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: think that there are definitely reasons to fade him, especially
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: at ownership, which he'll be owned.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. It didn't touch in Jared Allen, but
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: I love him like him and Durham are two favorite
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: center plays by a pretty wide margin. We've seen Alan
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: perform really well alongside James Harden. And again, if Harden
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: is not taking a ton of shots, it's going to
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: go to some of these other guys and just not
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: really too worried about any of the defenders on the
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: buck side of things when it comes to Jared Allen.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one, uh, I guess I wanted to ask you
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: before we go going back to the Golden State game,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: unless you were you all done with the Cleveland Milwaukee game.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same, how would you rank the Golden State guys
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: if Draymond is out?
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: If Draymond's out, it's still gonna be the Pods and
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Ghee as like the one A, one B for me,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: and then I would have Al Horford second, then Moody
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: and then probably Pat Spencer, post Peyton and then Richard.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: So does it change like if Draymond's in, Like I
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: feel like and correct me if I'm wrong. If he's in,
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: it doesn't change that much except for like santos And
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: and Pajemski are still the top two. Then Moody would
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: be the third, and then like I guess like Horford
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Draymond after that, Like, I'm not really interested in Draymond
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: if he's in, and that kind of takes me off. Horford.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Are you different there?
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm pretty much in agreement there. I
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: still would have interest in Horford just if Draymond's in,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: it's still back to back. He's old and they probably
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: would want to play more Horford tonight since he's been off.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it definitely ticks off a lot of the
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: like really big upside for Orford I would say.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he becomes like with Draymond out. He's not like
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: a Muss play, but he's like on the short list.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: If Draymond's in, he's just in play for me.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. Cool, all right, I think
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: that does it as we always do. Spend a little
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: bit of time just kind of talking basketball at the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: top of the show, but more more time tonight with
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: being such a small slate walking within thirty minutes, so
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: be a sprint to the finish line for this one.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, any any closing thoughts here.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: No, just that slate plan for members will be out
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: probably in the next hour. I know the slate starts
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit later tonight, so a little bit extra time,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I'm gonna finish it right when we're done here.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: And always enjoy doing these Wednesday show with the shows
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: with you. I'm glad that your internet was cooperative and
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: you were It was awesome for the second like three
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: quarters of the show.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I agree with you. They always love doing
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: these shows with you. But we'll have me and Title
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: back tomorrow. Him and Matt will be back on Friday,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: So back to the normal scheduling. As we get close
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: to the end of the playoffs or end of the season,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: get close to the playoffs, which would be a lot
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: of showdown content, which our guy a little neck has
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: been doing a great job of so I want to
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: shout him out. But yeah, good luck to everybody, Appreciate
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: all you guys. Watch and then we'll catch you tomorrow.
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