Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 9-04-26 Hour 1 - CU squeaks past Georgia Tech/A ruling in favor of LSU/Pregaming CFB, Broncos X-Factor
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
- 0:05Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
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- 0:28Speaker 3: An absolute stunner at Georgia Tech.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Boo Carter.
- 0:37Speaker 1: The transfer from Tennessee.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Blocks the kick. And the Buffaloes get their revenge on
- 0:46Speaker 3: the road in the very city where their head coach
- 0:50Speaker 3: became a two-way star. And Coach Prime gets his win. God,
- 0:56Speaker 3: we rushed for a buck.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Eighty-three.
- 0:58Speaker 3: My God. They rushed for 51? I thought we were small.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Walk-off win for the Buffs last night. CU beats Georgia
- 1:16Speaker 3: Tech 14-13 there in a wet and hot Atlanta, Georgia.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Welcome.
- 1:22Speaker 3: What's the name of this show? Moshe Lombardi and Kane.
- 1:24Speaker 3: Moshe Lombardi and Kane. Coming to you live from the
- 1:26Speaker 3: back of the Shanker Studios.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Where's Kane?
- 1:28Speaker 2: You know what? He's off today. Hey, man, you know
- 1:31Speaker 2: what you.
- 1:31Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no. Berto, where's Kane? Where really
- 1:33Speaker 4: is Kane?
- 1:34Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you. We're going through performance evaluations
- 1:39Speaker 3: here at the station currently. I don't think he made it.
- 1:41Speaker 3: I don't think he made it, bro. I think he
- 1:44Speaker 3: got caught.
- 1:45Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 1:47Speaker 3: We'll find out here in a couple hours.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Hey, you got... As we start the program today, it's
- 1:51Speaker 2: always a treat to have Berto in the studio, a
- 1:54Speaker 2: guy I've known for now... God, almost 30 years. Is
- 1:58Speaker 2: it almost 30 years?
- 1:59Speaker 3: It's a long damn time. 1998 or something?
- 2:01Speaker 2: Is it something like that? It's been 84 years. It's
- 2:05Speaker 2: been that long. Vic, you and I have been through this,
- 2:09Speaker 2: but I need you to help our boy out here.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Look at him. Now look at him. Now sit normally
- 2:16Speaker 2: toward the computer. What's wrong with him? He looks fine.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking pretty good.
- 2:20Speaker 2: But in the studio, the computer's like right here in
- 2:22Speaker 2: his face. He looks attractive. But no, he's losing his eyesight,
- 2:26Speaker 2: and he won't do anything about it.
- 2:27Speaker 3: It's all right, man.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Otherwise, he can't see the damn computer. Here, read a
- 2:31Speaker 2: piece of paper. I dare you to. It's okay.
- 2:33Speaker 3: That's a Bud Light football, right?
- 2:34Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:35Speaker 3: He's like, it's all going well. What'd you guys think
- 2:38Speaker 3: about last night? What'd you think?
- 2:39Speaker 4: That was awesome.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Fun. That was bonkers. Fun as hell.
- 2:42Speaker 4: It was a game in which, you know, and Brett.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Brett called it.
- 2:46Speaker 4: We both specified what kind of game we'd like to see,
- 2:50Speaker 4: and I thought the only way the Buffs win is
- 2:53Speaker 4: if it's one of those shootouts where they get to 30.
- 2:55Speaker 4: They did not. He said, Brett said, defense needs to
- 2:59Speaker 4: show up and win a low-scoring game, and that's exactly
- 3:02Speaker 4: what happened. Defensively, they were superb. Outside of that breakdown
- 3:05Speaker 4: at the end of the game where they gave up
- 3:07Speaker 4: a 42-yard pass just out of nowhere, the defense was great.
- 3:12Speaker 4: It was great. And the run game showed up. You
- 3:16Speaker 4: run the ball, you stop the run. As Coach Prime
- 3:20Speaker 4: just noted there, 183-51 in the rushing game.
- 3:25Speaker 2: If you do that, you win a lot of football.
- 3:27Speaker 2: One thing I did notice, too, again, it was really hot.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Georgia Tech elected to wear their road whites and put
- 3:34Speaker 2: the Buffs in their black uniforms in, what, 96-degree weather
- 3:37Speaker 2: or whatever it was down in Atlanta. Yeah. But the
- 3:41Speaker 2: Buffs employed a variety of ball carriers. They rotated three guys, Henderson, Welch,
- 3:48Speaker 2: and Smith. Specifically, they rotated them. Then they threw Taylor
- 3:52Speaker 2: in there. They threw Young in there. They threw Williams
- 3:54Speaker 2: in there for one carry. But they rotated those guys,
- 3:57Speaker 2: and they had fresh legs virtually throughout the game. And
- 4:00Speaker 2: so I'm sure that probably helped the cause a little
- 4:03Speaker 2: bit because the passing game, Welch.
- 4:06Speaker 2: At the very end, Juju was terrific with that pass
- 4:08Speaker 2: and so on. It really wasn't happening for most of
- 4:11Speaker 2: the contest.
- 4:12Speaker 3: What did you guys think of Juju? What did you
- 4:13Speaker 3: think about how he played?
- 4:15Speaker 4: He looked nervous at the beginning, looked very nervous.
- 4:17Speaker 2: He was overthrowing guys. He looked like an 18-year-old kid
- 4:20Speaker 2: to me. But I tell you what, I tell you.
- 4:21Speaker 4: What, when they needed it most, that dude.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Had ice in his veins.
- 4:25Speaker 4: That toss at the end of the game to Charlie
- 4:29Speaker 4: Williams on the out and up, he put it only
- 4:32Speaker 4: where Williams could get it.
- 4:33Speaker 2: It was perfect. And, by the way, what a catch. Yeah,
- 4:37Speaker 2: great move, great move. He put the move on. He
- 4:39Speaker 2: put the move, a little stutter, boom, and then he
- 4:41Speaker 2: had to stretch, though. Vic, you saw that. He had
- 4:45Speaker 2: to stretch. And I think it looked to me like
- 4:48Speaker 2: he caught the butt end of the football. That's how
- 4:51Speaker 2: much he had to stretch. Nonetheless, that's where the pass was.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Terrific job delivered. Terrific catch, and there you go.
- 4:59Speaker 3: I guess I didn't expect– what did you expect from
- 5:02Speaker 3: the go-go? And I guess I didn't expect, like, smash mouth,
- 5:05Speaker 3: run it down your throat football from the go-go offense.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Well, no, that's what it is, though. I mean, it's
- 5:11Speaker 2: not this, you know, K-gun or something like that, right?
- 5:14Speaker 3: I just thought it was a bunch of offensive– as
- 5:17Speaker 3: many offensive positions as you possibly can get.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Then that's kind of what it was, too. I mean,
- 5:20Speaker 2: they kept ball control. The ball's in your hand. But
- 5:24Speaker 2: let's go with this guy, go with this guy, go
- 5:25Speaker 2: with this guy. You see where the backs were lining up, Vic? Yeah,
- 5:28Speaker 2: it was an offset backfield. Offset all the time. I
- 5:32Speaker 2: mentioned that going in.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Beware of the way they run their running backs because
- 5:36Speaker 4: they sometimes put a fullback back there. They put two
- 5:39Speaker 4: backs in there. They're really weird on where they set up.
- 5:42Speaker 4: But the thing I'm most impressed with, all right, so
- 5:45Speaker 4: you run for 183 yards. It wasn't just one bell cow.
- 5:48Speaker 2: I mean, Damian Henderson, 12 for 65.
- 5:49Speaker 4: Michael Welch, 13 for 58. Jake Whale-Smith, 10 for 42.
- 5:57Speaker 4: DeKalen Taylor, 4 for 22. They spread it around, man.
- 6:01Speaker 4: I mean, they got a stable, and they used it.
- 6:04Speaker 4: And the offensive line blocked their butts off.
- 6:06Speaker 2: It was great to watch. Fact of the matter is, look,
- 6:09Speaker 2: it wasn't pretty. It wasn't, you know, as high-flying as
- 6:14Speaker 2: we wanted it to be. But to go on the road...
- 6:17Speaker 2: and beat a team that beat you in your joint
- 6:19Speaker 2: last year, however you do it, and you block the
- 6:22Speaker 2: field goal at the end, that's great. You got to
- 6:25Speaker 2: dub it. And so I don't care how you do
- 6:27Speaker 2: it because I'm sure a lot of these games are
- 6:29Speaker 2: going to look different as the year goes on. But
- 6:32Speaker 2: you're five away from a bowl now. I don't care
- 6:35Speaker 2: how you do it either. So I'm just saying, if
- 6:37Speaker 2: your goal is bowl game, and that's what your goal
- 6:40Speaker 2: should be, Five more. So get Weber State next week.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Five more. Did you see that stat?
- 6:47Speaker 4: That's the first time CU's beaten an ACC team since
- 6:50Speaker 4: like 1950s.
- 6:52Speaker 2: I did not see that stat. It was 1957. The
- 6:55Speaker 2: last time the Buffs beat an ACC team.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Well, they keep flashing up the stat where Deion is
- 7:00Speaker 3: 8-2 against non-conference foes at CU. And I was like, man.
- 7:06Speaker 3: And some of those, I mean, those aren't just chumps. Like,
- 7:08Speaker 3: I mean, TCU was one of them. Georgia Tech last
- 7:10Speaker 3: night was one of them. So, I mean, they're killing
- 7:14Speaker 3: non-conference foes, and then they get into conference pay. Let
- 7:18Speaker 3: me ask you about, just quickly, the other side of
- 7:20Speaker 3: the ball. What did you guys think of Alberto Mendoza,
- 7:23Speaker 3: Fernando's bro?
- 7:24Speaker 2: You know what? He was actually quite impressive.
- 7:27Speaker 4: I thought he got hurt with his ankle and may
- 7:29Speaker 4: have changed the way he played that injury.
- 7:32Speaker 2: But early on, he was on target, man. After he
- 7:35Speaker 2: hurt his ankle.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Yeah, because his foot got stuck in the grass, and
- 7:38Speaker 3: then he turned it.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Well, after he hurt his ankle, he came over to
- 7:43Speaker 2: the sideline, and he was chased by a couple of people.
- 7:47Speaker 2: You're like, hey, are you okay? Are you okay? What's
- 7:48Speaker 2: going on? And when he sat down, he sat next
- 7:51Speaker 2: to a guy who's older, and I'm like, is that
- 7:54Speaker 2: his dad? Because this guy looked exactly like him. Like
- 7:58Speaker 2: underneath that awning, right? It's like the bus stop that
- 8:02Speaker 2: he sat under. I'm like... That guy looks just like...
- 8:05Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what his dad looks like,
- 8:07Speaker 2: but I'm saying that.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Wait, he was... You didn't see his dad was all
- 8:10Speaker 3: over when Fernando won the Heisman and all that stuff?
- 8:13Speaker 2: They showed the whole family in the stands. Oh, they did? Okay.
- 8:15Speaker 2: The mom, the dad. But the guy.
- 8:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Is that his real dad? Because the guy sitting next
- 8:19Speaker 2: to him in the bus stop looked just like him.
- 8:22Speaker 4: Dude, that Lamont Lester transfer from Monmouth.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Preach on it.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Three sacks last night. Yeah.
- 8:27Speaker 4: He put on a show.
- 8:29Speaker 3: Yeah, he was going crazy, especially in the first half.
- 8:31Speaker 3: I was like, man, he is all over this field.
- 8:33Speaker 1: So.
- 8:34Speaker 3: You win the first game, you now want to know,
- 8:37Speaker 3: does this change how you feel about CUC's upcoming season,
- 8:41Speaker 3: or is this what you expected last night, what we got?
- 8:43Speaker 4: Well, it's a game they won that perhaps a lot
- 8:45Speaker 4: of people didn't expect them to win. Take a look
- 8:47Speaker 4: at the rest of the schedule, and the next couple
- 8:49Speaker 4: games are manageable and winnable. You get off to a
- 8:52Speaker 4: good start. You get off to a 3-0 start before
- 8:55Speaker 4: you hit that conference tilt. It gets you some momentum.
- 8:59Speaker 4: I mean, listen, again, a bowl game is the key here.
- 9:02Speaker 4: A bowl game should be the goal. You get the
- 9:05Speaker 4: six of them, right, Moshe? Get the six of them.
- 9:07Speaker 2: That's it. That should be the goal. Get the six.
- 9:10Speaker 2: So what's interesting about the Buffs this year, Bert, is
- 9:13Speaker 2: that they've got the brand-new offensive coordinator, brand-new system. Okay, fine. And, again,
- 9:18Speaker 2: I don't know what Juju wants to be as a quarterback,
- 9:21Speaker 2: but you've got to be somewhat disciplined in this system.
- 9:24Speaker 2: It's not just going to be, hey, kid, you can
- 9:26Speaker 2: drop back and use your legs and throw the ball
- 9:28Speaker 2: all over the place, but he can do that. But
- 9:30Speaker 2: what they've done is they went a completely different route, Vic.
- 9:33Speaker 2: They went and they got players with experience, but like
- 9:37Speaker 2: from lower schools, like Gideon Lampron, right? ESPN. ESPN. That's
- 9:44Speaker 2: a whole story. The kid's name is ESPN.
- 9:47Speaker 3: And when they were telling the story on the broadcast
- 9:49Speaker 3: about how the father changed the middle name on the
- 9:53Speaker 3: birth certificate without his wife knowing.
- 9:56Speaker 4: Correct.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Vic, if you pulled that nonsense with one of your kids,
- 10:00Speaker 3: how would the queen of chicken handle that?
- 10:02Speaker 4: Well, we wouldn't be here right now. When they said
- 10:07Speaker 4: he did it without the wife knowing, I was.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Like, how did he pull that off?
- 10:10Speaker 3: Right, that's crazy.
- 10:11Speaker 2: But the point about a guy like that is he's
- 10:13Speaker 2: a Bowling Green guy. He played at Bowling Green. So
- 10:16Speaker 2: what they did is they got guys with experience in
- 10:18Speaker 2: the portal who've played a lot of football, but maybe
- 10:22Speaker 2: at a lower level.
- 10:23Speaker 4: Scudero, Lampron, Lester. Small schools, but with plenty of experience.
- 10:29Speaker 4: It was a different approach this year.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Yeah, so how are these guys going to adjust to... Like,
- 10:36Speaker 2: when you talk about Lester, he's a Monmouth guy. Now,
- 10:39Speaker 2: he played a lot at Monmouth, and he made a
- 10:41Speaker 2: lot of tackles at Monmouth, but you're talking about the
- 10:44Speaker 2: Big 12, brother! Big 12, brother.
- 10:47Speaker 4: It's a big 12.
- 10:48Speaker 3: It's not intramurals, man. It's just not intramurals.
- 10:51Speaker 2: And it ain't Monmouth. But you know what? These guys
- 10:53Speaker 2: comported themselves pretty good.
- 10:55Speaker 4: Dude, it was fun.
- 10:57Speaker 2: And Vic, what I like about it, they had a
- 10:59Speaker 2: ball-hocking defense. And I thought that was terrific, man. I
- 11:02Speaker 2: liked what I saw.
- 11:03Speaker 4: Go play intramurals, brother. The defense did not give up
- 11:08Speaker 4: a touchdown. Oh, that's right. Georgia Tech scored, came on
- 11:12Speaker 4: that kick return. By the way, the kicker, you can't
- 11:15Speaker 4: kick it that low. But anyway, the kick return was
- 11:19Speaker 4: the only time Georgia Tech got in the end zone.
- 11:22Speaker 4: The defense itself put up a shutout. They didn't let
- 11:25Speaker 4: anybody in the end zone. They held firm in the
- 11:27Speaker 4: red zone. So, hey, kudos, man. Kudos to Marv, the
- 11:31Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. Kudos to Marion. I thought the play calling
- 11:36Speaker 4: on that final drive was fantastic. I thought the call
- 11:39Speaker 4: of the game, all right, the play of the game
- 11:41Speaker 4: was clearly the 20-yard pass to Charlie Williams, which was
- 11:44Speaker 4: on the money.
- 11:44Speaker 2: It was an out and up.
- 11:45Speaker 4: If you go back and look at it, the route
- 11:47Speaker 4: was perfect. But I thought the call of the game,
- 11:50Speaker 4: and I love the way Marion calls the game, two
- 11:52Speaker 4: plays earlier, buffs are driving, under a minute to play.
- 11:56Speaker 4: They're throwing the ball pretty well at this point. It's
- 11:59Speaker 4: third and three from the 36. They're in the shotgun, obviously,
- 12:03Speaker 4: and they run a draw to Taylor for 16 yards.
- 12:06Speaker 4: And I'm thinking to myself, I sort of got to, God,
- 12:08Speaker 4: this would be a great time to just run the ball.
- 12:09Speaker 2: There's plenty of time.
- 12:10Speaker 4: And not only did they run it, they run it
- 12:12Speaker 4: for 16. It's a perfect call.
- 12:14Speaker 2: It really was. And you could see in that final drive, too,
- 12:17Speaker 2: the way this offense works best is if you get
- 12:21Speaker 2: the opposing defense on its heels a little bit, Now,
- 12:25Speaker 2: now the rhythm of the go-go takes over. And that's exactly. Yeah.
- 12:29Speaker 3: You can feel like, didn't it feel like you could
- 12:31Speaker 3: see the buffs offense getting better in real time as
- 12:34Speaker 3: the game went on. Like there was, there was some
- 12:37Speaker 3: bad snaps. There was obviously those, all those drops, like
- 12:40Speaker 3: Juju's hitting wide receivers in the gloves and they're dropping
- 12:42Speaker 3: a ball. You can't have that. But that, that, those
- 12:44Speaker 3: aren't going to be a problem here in a couple
- 12:46Speaker 3: of weeks, right?
- 12:46Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I mean, if he's throwing it
- 12:50Speaker 2: into a guy's breadbasket, and they had three straight drops
- 12:54Speaker 2: on that one drive, and I'm like, dudes, just catch
- 12:57Speaker 2: the football.
- 12:58Speaker 3: And it wasn't, like, I like to play calling, especially
- 13:00Speaker 3: on the last two drives, even though that second-to-last drive
- 13:03Speaker 3: ended with a blocked field. But, I mean, they marched
- 13:06Speaker 3: that ball right down the field on that.
- 13:07Speaker 2: One, and they got a block. So that's, as you
- 13:09Speaker 2: can see, once they get in that rhythm, once that
- 13:12Speaker 2: starts to work like that, Vic, then it works pretty good,
- 13:16Speaker 2: and you get that defense on its heels, and you
- 13:17Speaker 2: get them guessing. Like the draw play on the third
- 13:20Speaker 2: and three, Georgia Tech had no clue that was coming.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Absolutely none. Stuck out to me.
- 13:27Speaker 4: There were a lot of CU fans in Atlanta, Georgia
- 13:30Speaker 4: for that game.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Yeah, they mentioned that a couple times.
- 13:31Speaker 4: There was a great showing of Buff Nation there. There
- 13:34Speaker 4: were a lot of people there representing CU. And you
- 13:37Speaker 4: could hear it in the crowd.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Yeah, right. You could hear CU's fans. I think, did
- 13:42Speaker 3: Dion mention that in the postgame? He mentioned that there
- 13:44Speaker 3: was a great fan turnout. But, yeah, a lot of
- 13:47Speaker 3: Buffs fans there in Atlanta for that one.
- 13:49Speaker 2: If you can just get rid of the miscues and
- 13:51Speaker 2: the special teams junk and whatnot. First game. It is.
- 13:55Speaker 2: But what's been so frustrating, I think, for the Buffs,
- 13:58Speaker 2: especially in their tight losses in recent memories, Oh, my God,
- 14:04Speaker 2: you need specs.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Listen, bro, don't worry about it.
- 14:08Speaker 4: Let me live my life.
- 14:09Speaker 3: You live your life.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. But, Vic, what has been so frustrating,
- 14:14Speaker 2: I think, for Buffalo's fans has just been self-imposed punishment.
- 14:19Speaker 2: I mean, miscues that you don't need to have poor
- 14:22Speaker 2: snaps and special teams brain damage.
- 14:24Speaker 4: Until the block there at the end by the special
- 14:26Speaker 4: teams player, that dude who came off the edge, the
- 14:29Speaker 4: special teams was abhorrent.
- 14:30Speaker 2: It was going to lose them the game.
- 14:32Speaker 4: It was. And I went back and looked. And I
- 14:34Speaker 4: heard about this, and I went back just to verify.
- 14:36Speaker 4: You know, they don't employ a full-time special teams coordinator.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Really?
- 14:40Speaker 4: Their tight ends coach also runs special teams. Huh. So
- 14:43Speaker 4: they don't have, like, one coach who does just special teams.
- 14:47Speaker 2: They don't do it. That's weird. It's beyond weird. I've
- 14:50Speaker 2: never heard of that.
- 14:51Speaker 4: I've never once heard of a major college football program
- 14:56Speaker 4: not having a special teams coach.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Well, now, they didn't turn the ball over. Officially. And
- 15:03Speaker 2: the scoop and score, thank God, they blew that play dead. Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Because that was a fumble, man. Right.
- 15:09Speaker 2: That was, yes.
- 15:10Speaker 4: Yeah, they got it right.
- 15:12Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's a scoop and score is what
- 15:13Speaker 2: it is. And you're driving, see, it's the self-inflicted injuries.
- 15:18Speaker 2: You're driving the ball all the way, you're in the
- 15:21Speaker 2: red zone, you're ready to punch it in.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you give it up.
- 15:24Speaker 2: And you, yeah, and so thank God that, you know,
- 15:27Speaker 2: it was overturned. It was blown dead. But. You're doing
- 15:32Speaker 2: it to yourselves. And I think that you look at
- 15:35Speaker 2: the past couple years and you're like, if you could
- 15:38Speaker 2: just not punish yourself and hurt yourself, you might be okay.
- 15:43Speaker 2: But it's the same mistakes at the wrong time that
- 15:47Speaker 2: seem to creep up. Now, it didn't bite them in
- 15:49Speaker 2: the butt last night. They blocked the field goal. They
- 15:51Speaker 2: get the win. But you've got to eliminate that crap.
- 15:55Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been it. Depressing loss if they
- 15:57Speaker 3: would have given up a field goal late after that
- 15:58Speaker 3: big pass play. It's Bud Light Football Friday. Bud Light,
- 16:01Speaker 3: the official beer sponsor of the Denver Broncos. Remember to
- 16:03Speaker 3: enjoy responsibly. We will talk Broncos next. Mosier, stupid. Welcome
- 16:08Speaker 3: back to Mosier, Lombardi, and Kane. The things that fascinate
- 16:13Speaker 3: Mosier during commercial breaks, they.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Know no bounds. I'll tell you what's fascinating to me.
- 16:19Speaker 2: is that we're sitting here, we're into college football, right?
- 16:22Speaker 2: This is week one after zero week last week. Yeah.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Getting ready and getting excited. We're still over a week
- 16:28Speaker 2: away from the Broncos kicking off.
- 16:30Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know.
- 16:31Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Vic, but for pro football
- 16:34Speaker 2: and for the Broncos, this is going to feel like
- 16:36Speaker 2: I don't know, man. The longest week.
- 16:38Speaker 4: No, no, no.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Don't say pro football in the Broncos because guess what?
- 16:42Speaker 3: College football is now pro football.
- 16:43Speaker 4: College football is pro football. You better distinguish.
- 16:46Speaker 3: The story broke right before halftime of the Buffs game
- 16:50Speaker 3: that that Louisiana judge had said, yeah, they can play
- 16:53Speaker 3: college ball. So LSU and Clemson play tomorrow. A guy
- 16:59Speaker 3: who was in an NFL training camp last week is
- 17:02Speaker 3: going to play for LSU tomorrow.
- 17:04Speaker 4: Mark, he was not only in an NFL training camp.
- 17:07Speaker 4: One of the players at LSU claimed was in the
- 17:10Speaker 4: Broncos camp. Do you guys remember watching Cotton? Some guy
- 17:15Speaker 4: named Cotton?
- 17:16Speaker 2: No.
- 17:17Speaker 3: He's now on LSU?
- 17:19Speaker 4: Yes. Cotton. That's crazy.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Blake Cotton. Go back and look.
- 17:24Speaker 4: Do you remember from training camp, Moshe, when we were
- 17:26Speaker 4: out there watching cornerback Blake Cotton go to work?
- 17:30Speaker 2: Because he was in Broncos camp. I don't recall, but
- 17:35Speaker 2: let me see an image. I'm going to pull up.
- 17:38Speaker 2: There he is, number 32 in a Denver Broncos uniform. Yeah. Wow.
- 17:44Speaker 4: Blake Cotton goes from Broncos camp to campus. And Dove
- 17:47Speaker 4: Valley to LSU and Baton Rouge.
- 17:49Speaker 3: Yeah, you go from training camp to campus, which is crazy.
- 17:51Speaker 2: We'll get to the Broncos in a second. Vic, but
- 17:53Speaker 2: I said this yesterday in the program at the end
- 17:56Speaker 2: of the show, talking about these judges and, you know,
- 17:59Speaker 2: attorney generals in all these southern states, right? And I said, well,
- 18:06Speaker 2: we don't even have a judge in Colorado probably who
- 18:08Speaker 2: likes football. Vic says, well, I know one. Okay, fine. One,
- 18:13Speaker 2: we need to get us some judges. So Berto had
- 18:16Speaker 2: the idea. Look, my beautiful baby boy. Yeah, that's what
- 18:20Speaker 2: I need. I need Dante to get on a frigging
- 18:21Speaker 2: fast track to becoming a judge.
- 18:22Speaker 3: We need political power in the sports arena.
- 18:25Speaker 2: So what we need, Burt suggested that one of us, you, me, him,
- 18:30Speaker 2: somebody at the station, we got to get them elected
- 18:33Speaker 2: somehow so we can pass legislation. to help out our
- 18:37Speaker 2: college football team.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Right, absolutely.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Because they have no problem doing it in Louisiana or
- 18:43Speaker 2: Missouri or Georgia or Florida.
- 18:46Speaker 4: It's not going to work because the SEC has basically
- 18:49Speaker 4: told LSU, if you do this, you will face suspension.
- 18:53Speaker 2: What are they going to do?
- 18:55Speaker 3: Well, hold on, hold on. One thing for you, Vic,
- 18:57Speaker 3: before I let you continue. The Louisiana judge who made
- 19:01Speaker 3: that ruling last night, the SEC said to her, like said, hey, listen,
- 19:07Speaker 3: We're just going to find the hell out. And the
- 19:10Speaker 3: judge said, you know what that sounds like to me?
- 19:13Speaker 3: That sounds like collusion. It sounds like you guys are
- 19:15Speaker 3: colluding against LSU, and it sounds like you're going to
- 19:18Speaker 3: defy a legal court order. She was going after the.
- 19:21Speaker 2: SEC, man.
- 19:22Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I'm saying is,
- 19:26Speaker 3: like tomorrow when LSU and Clemson hit the field, you
- 19:30Speaker 3: could have two different rulings, one for the SEC and
- 19:35Speaker 3: one for LSU. And how the hell, if you're LSU,
- 19:39Speaker 3: do you just say, well, we're all in. We're pot
- 19:42Speaker 3: committed now. We're playing these guys.
- 19:44Speaker 4: Well, if the SEC rolls over and says, ah, well,
- 19:46Speaker 4: we can't defy the law, then we know where this
- 19:48Speaker 4: is going. We know where this is. is headed, if
- 19:50Speaker 4: that's all talk, right? Their commissioner, the SEC, Sankey, the
- 19:54Speaker 4: commissioner came out and said, we're not going to allow
- 19:55Speaker 4: this to happen, and we are going to suspend Lane Kiffin.
- 20:00Speaker 4: We're going to suspend the hell out of him, and
- 20:02Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. Look, you created your own monster,
- 20:05Speaker 4: all right?
- 20:06Speaker 2: Yes. You created arms races. You created... creativity with NIL.
- 20:12Speaker 2: You created, you know, all sorts of things that, you know,
- 20:19Speaker 2: that benefit your conference. And so when you have a
- 20:24Speaker 2: coach and a team that's just trying to do what
- 20:27Speaker 2: everybody else, you know, I mean, just trying to get better.
- 20:30Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's right. I don't think that guys
- 20:33Speaker 2: who have been in NFL training camps should go back
- 20:35Speaker 2: and be able to play college football, even though they're, quote, pros.
- 20:39Speaker 2: But In today's wild, wild west where anything goes and
- 20:43Speaker 2: you get a judge to say, hey, these guys can play,
- 20:47Speaker 2: what are you going to do, throw LSU out of
- 20:50Speaker 2: the SEC? Are you kidding me? What a joke. Well,
- 20:53Speaker 2: we'll see because, you know, the SEC. Sankey thinks he's
- 20:56Speaker 2: the most powerful man on the planet, Vic.
- 20:58Speaker 4: He makes $ 4. 5 million to be that guy. Hey, the
- 21:01Speaker 4: SEC has always pushed the envelope.
- 21:04Speaker 2: But now they've got a coach in Lane Kiffin who
- 21:06Speaker 2: not only.
- 21:07Speaker 4: Pushes it, I mean, he He throws it. He tears
- 21:10Speaker 4: it up.
- 21:10Speaker 2: He doesn't care.
- 21:12Speaker 4: He's doing his own thing. Other coaches aren't doing this.
- 21:15Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin is. Do you see other coaches in the
- 21:17Speaker 4: SEC inviting NFL players to their camps?
- 21:20Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Yeah, Texas has an offensive lineman.
- 21:24Speaker 4: Do they really? Just in case? Their coach doesn't want it.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.
- 21:29Speaker 4: He's already said it.
- 21:30Speaker 2: He's on the team. Hey, let me find it.
- 21:34Speaker 3: Like, I do believe these SE teams who are now
- 21:36Speaker 3: complaining about all this stuff will reverse course if at
- 21:39Speaker 3: the end of the day, it is like these, like,
- 21:42Speaker 3: they're not going to just do it on principle alone
- 21:45Speaker 3: if the law says that these former pros can come
- 21:48Speaker 3: back to college.
- 21:49Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 21:50Speaker 3: Like, because SEC football teams are about winning. They're not
- 21:53Speaker 3: about anything else, man. Otherwise, you're not going to have
- 21:56Speaker 3: a job in that conference.
- 21:57Speaker 2: So what this guy did, this guy, Cole Hudson, I
- 22:00Speaker 2: talked about him. He participated in rookie minicamps with the
- 22:05Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Cleveland Browns, but he was never signed
- 22:08Speaker 2: to an official contract. And so then he has been
- 22:14Speaker 2: granted a fifth year of eligibility to return and play
- 22:17Speaker 2: for the Longhorns. So just because he didn't sign a contract,
- 22:22Speaker 2: he was in two NFL teams minicamps. But he did
- 22:26Speaker 2: not sign a contract. He signed a contract, but he
- 22:28Speaker 2: didn't sign a professional contract. a permanent professional contract, so
- 22:32Speaker 2: he's allowed to play. The kid in Missouri is allowed
- 22:34Speaker 2: to play. There are like 40 other guys around the
- 22:35Speaker 2: country who are allowed to play in the same way,
- 22:38Speaker 2: but because these guys were in official training camp, the
- 22:41Speaker 2: SEC wants to throw LSU out.
- 22:43Speaker 3: Are you guys upset at the players or at the
- 22:47Speaker 3: system about this? Are you upset that these guys are?
- 22:49Speaker 4: The players are trying to make money. I get it.
- 22:53Speaker 4: They're trying to find an avenue to make some cash.
- 22:56Speaker 4: The system is broken, clearly.
- 22:58Speaker 2: It's a joke.
- 22:59Speaker 4: Because it doesn't apply to anybody and everybody. Not every
- 23:01Speaker 4: school is going to do this. Not every school is
- 23:04Speaker 4: going to allow this. I know one school that won't.
- 23:06Speaker 4: But the SEC, they may huff and puff and say,
- 23:09Speaker 4: we're not going to allow this to happen. But watch
- 23:11Speaker 4: where most of these players end up.
- 23:13Speaker 2: Just watch. Watch where they end up. Ryan Day of
- 23:17Speaker 2: the Ohio State Buckeyes said, I don't like it. I
- 23:21Speaker 2: don't want it. He goes, but at the end of
- 23:24Speaker 2: the day, I've got to do what's best for everybody.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Ohio state football. And if it means, you know, until
- 23:33Speaker 2: something is officially decided, it means I have to pursue this,
- 23:36Speaker 2: this route. Then I guess I'm going to do, I mean,
- 23:39Speaker 2: he doesn't want to do it, but.
- 23:40Speaker 3: You have to, or you, yeah, you have to.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Well, you know what?
- 23:43Speaker 3: There's going to be a couple of questions. We're going
- 23:45Speaker 3: to have Vic Lombardi solve some of the problems in sports.
- 23:49Speaker 3: So let me start right now with this one. You
- 23:51Speaker 3: say college sports is broken. Fix it. What's your idea?
- 23:55Speaker 3: Just don't complain about it. Give me an answer, brother.
- 23:57Speaker 2: It's an easy idea. You get one transfer.
- 24:01Speaker 4: One.
- 24:02Speaker 2: Per college. All right?
- 24:04Speaker 4: And that's it. And I don't want to hear this, well,
- 24:06Speaker 4: you know, coaches are allowed to come and go.
- 24:08Speaker 2: I don't care.
- 24:09Speaker 4: As a player, when you commit to a university... You commit.
- 24:14Speaker 4: You get a contract. And if you break that contract,
- 24:17Speaker 4: you leave in the middle of that contract, guess what? Moj,
- 24:21Speaker 4: if I break my contract, what happens to me here
- 24:25Speaker 4: at Altitude Sports? I'm not allowed to go work somewhere else.
- 24:27Speaker 2: No, you're not. Right?
- 24:29Speaker 4: I'm not allowed to go work somewhere else.
- 24:31Speaker 2: You might even get sued.
- 24:33Speaker 4: Exactly right. If contracts are broken, that's why they're written,
- 24:37Speaker 4: you have to pay. Right now, college football players are
- 24:40Speaker 4: playing college ball with no contracts. And that's wrong. Just
- 24:45Speaker 4: like it was wrong before where some of them, I
- 24:48Speaker 4: still contend they.
- 24:49Speaker 2: All made money.
- 24:50Speaker 4: You know, it was all under the table.
- 24:52Speaker 2: They all made money.
- 24:53Speaker 4: But now it's official.
- 24:54Speaker 2: They're making money.
- 24:55Speaker 4: So if you're going to make money and you're going
- 24:58Speaker 4: to be a professional athlete playing the college game, you're
- 25:01Speaker 4: signing this contract. And if you decide to bolt on
- 25:04Speaker 4: this school for whatever reason, you're either going to pay
- 25:07Speaker 4: back that money, you're going to pay off the remainder
- 25:09Speaker 4: of your contract, whatever. But you're beholden to this contract.
- 25:13Speaker 4: I know a lot of boosters, specifically with CU. And
- 25:17Speaker 4: I've talked to a couple guys. Like, they got out
- 25:20Speaker 4: of the whole NIL game.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Why?
- 25:21Speaker 4: Because what do we get? Like, as a booster, what
- 25:24Speaker 4: do we gain from this? Besides the, oh boy, school pride.
- 25:30Speaker 4: What do we gain? We give this kid a pile
- 25:33Speaker 4: of money and he can come and go as he pleases?
- 25:35Speaker 2: That's essentially what it is, Vic. What it is right now, Berto,
- 25:39Speaker 2: is that Every guy is basically a free agent every year.
- 25:47Speaker 3: As it should be.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Okay.
- 25:49Speaker 3: As it should be. I've been advocating for that in
- 25:52Speaker 3: professional sports for years. So that everybody's a free agent
- 25:55Speaker 3: every year.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Yeah. If you did that.
- 25:58Speaker 3: No draft. No draft.
- 26:00Speaker 4: Get rid of the draft.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Everybody's a free agent.
- 26:02Speaker 4: If you did that, the big market teams, especially basketball,
- 26:05Speaker 4: and then you'd lose the sport.
- 26:07Speaker 2: The sport would die. I don't know.
- 26:08Speaker 4: The sport would die. I don't know.
- 26:10Speaker 2: I'm here.
- 26:11Speaker 3: I'm always here for trying something different. If it doesn't work,
- 26:13Speaker 3: we'll change it back or we'll switch it again.
- 26:16Speaker 2: You want to see sports die? Do that.
- 26:18Speaker 4: Do what Birdo just suggested and allow players to come
- 26:21Speaker 4: and go as they please, wherever they please. No contracts,
- 26:23Speaker 4: none of that. You will have a sport that's dead
- 26:26Speaker 4: within five years.
- 26:27Speaker 3: I don't know, man. I think we can make it work.
- 26:29Speaker 4: You think the Memphis Grizzlies are going to field a
- 26:34Speaker 4: team that's competitive with the Miami Heat, the Lakers?
- 26:37Speaker 3: Well, they ain't competitive. They don't feel the competitive team
- 26:40Speaker 3: right now. So, I mean, it's the same either way
- 26:43Speaker 3: for them.
- 26:43Speaker 4: Do you think the Denver Nuggets would have been able
- 26:46Speaker 4: to win a championship if you did that?
- 26:49Speaker 3: Well, once again, I don't know. We've never seen it.
- 26:51Speaker 3: We'd have to see.
- 26:51Speaker 4: We'd have to see.
- 26:52Speaker 3: I mean, Jokers is exactly the kind of guy to
- 26:55Speaker 3: sign with the Denver Nuggets squad instead of going to
- 26:58Speaker 3: play for the Knicks.
- 26:59Speaker 4: Hey, guys, you asked me this question. There's a reason
- 27:03Speaker 4: the National Football League is the most popular sport in America.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Why? Why?
- 27:08Speaker 4: Because they run it perfectly. They run it perfectly. The
- 27:13Speaker 4: way they handle the labor aspect of it, the way
- 27:15Speaker 4: they handle their money, the way they handle their contracts,
- 27:19Speaker 4: they give themselves a little room to move people around,
- 27:21Speaker 4: move contracts around. But at the end of the day,
- 27:23Speaker 4: there's a salary cap. They have rules in place. And
- 27:27Speaker 4: they control the labor movement. And I know labor doesn't
- 27:31Speaker 4: want to hear that. But when you're able to control
- 27:33Speaker 4: the labor movement, you have some degree of loyalty to
- 27:36Speaker 4: your team. You have some degree of, control and that's
- 27:40Speaker 4: why the eyeballs are on the NFL for that reason
- 27:44Speaker 4: that's why they're vastly successful.
- 27:46Speaker 2: And again you talk about well is it just LSU
- 27:49Speaker 2: I mean Sarkeesian The guy is such a hypocrite because
- 27:53Speaker 2: we're talking about.
- 27:54Speaker 3: Well, he has to win or he's gone. If he
- 27:57Speaker 3: loses this season, he's gone.
- 27:59Speaker 2: He's gone.
- 28:01Speaker 3: He's desperate right now.
- 28:02Speaker 2: But with his guy, we're talking about Granny Smith apples
- 28:04Speaker 2: and Washington red apples. I mean, we're talking... It's the
- 28:09Speaker 2: same fruit. It's just a different variety. Again, he came
- 28:12Speaker 2: out and he said that he thinks it's morally wrong...
- 28:17Speaker 2: for guys who were in NFL camps to come back
- 28:19Speaker 2: and play college football. And he's talking about, he applauds
- 28:23Speaker 2: what the SEC is doing. And again, this is from
- 28:26Speaker 2: Yahoo Sports. While it may not be as blatant as
- 28:28Speaker 2: what LSU has attempted to do, Texas has a player
- 28:31Speaker 2: on its roster who participated in many camps for two
- 28:35Speaker 2: NFL teams after going undrafted. Offensive lineman Cole Hudson received
- 28:40Speaker 2: a state injunction, and he's going to play for the Longhorns. So, Okay,
- 28:44Speaker 2: but he was in too many camps with NFL teams.
- 28:47Speaker 2: He wasn't in a, quote, training camp. I mean, so
- 28:50Speaker 2: really what's the frigging difference, man? How do you think.
- 28:52Speaker 3: College fans think about this? How do you think college
- 28:55Speaker 3: fans feel about the atmosphere in college sports right now?
- 28:58Speaker 2: Dude, I say, you know what? Let them be pros
- 29:01Speaker 2: until they're 30. Let them make, I mean, just make
- 29:04Speaker 2: it minor leagues. I don't care.
- 29:05Speaker 4: At the end of the day, I don't think college
- 29:07Speaker 4: fans care. The game starts, the game kicks off like
- 29:09Speaker 4: last night. I mean, were you worried about all this
- 29:11Speaker 4: in the middle of the game? You just wanted the
- 29:12Speaker 4: Buffs to win, right? If you're a Buffs fan. In
- 29:15Speaker 4: the middle of the game, I don't think anybody cares.
- 29:17Speaker 4: People are rooting. You know what it's doing right now?
- 29:19Speaker 4: People are rooting for the logos more than ever in
- 29:21Speaker 4: college sports. Players come and go. And I have that approach,
- 29:25Speaker 4: and I know people don't like hearing this, but I've
- 29:29Speaker 4: said it before. I live in Denver, Colorado. I root
- 29:33Speaker 4: every year for whoever wears those Denver uniforms. Now, I
- 29:37Speaker 4: appreciate and respect the players who wear them. I really do. do.
- 29:40Speaker 4: I've become friends with some of them. But I know
- 29:42Speaker 4: at the end of the day, players come and go.
- 29:45Speaker 4: The logo remains. The city remains. That's who I root for.
- 29:50Speaker 4: If Joker played for the Lakers tomorrow, I root against him.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Yep, dead to me.
- 29:54Speaker 4: That's just the way it is. Now, I don't go
- 29:56Speaker 4: as far as Bossier. Mosier hates anybody who leaves. I
- 29:59Speaker 4: still respect the hell out.
- 30:01Speaker 2: Of these people.
- 30:02Speaker 4: But the point is, my loyalties don't go with the players.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Some people call him the moose. My loyalty is my college.
- 30:10Speaker 4: If I'm rooting for a college and somebody leaves that college, okay,
- 30:14Speaker 4: see you later. I'm still rooting for the brand, the logo.
- 30:17Speaker 4: Last night, I'm rooting for the logo, CU Buffs. Half
- 30:21Speaker 4: the time, I didn't even know who the hell was playing.
- 30:23Speaker 4: I didn't know they had so many.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Damn running backs.
- 30:26Speaker 4: I didn't know they had a Henderson, a Welch, a Smith,
- 30:28Speaker 4: a Taylor. They had guys coming out of nowhere.
- 30:30Speaker 2: I had no idea.
- 30:31Speaker 4: We didn't get a chance to watch them or see them.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Vic, how was your loyalty after Rick Meyer graduated? What
- 30:40Speaker 2: do you mean? I mean, Rick Meyer was gone.
- 30:43Speaker 3: It's a little old school, man.
- 30:44Speaker 2: I can't remember Rick Meyer.
- 30:47Speaker 4: My loyalty is to the school. Hey, Berto, is your
- 30:50Speaker 4: loyalty to Baylor?
- 30:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:51Speaker 4: Okay, you don't care if Robert Griffin's playing there now
- 30:54Speaker 4: or later.
- 30:55Speaker 2: It's to Baylor. It's to the school.
- 30:57Speaker 4: And I think college football now in this era of
- 31:01Speaker 4: comings and goings and all these guys, that is deeper
- 31:04Speaker 4: than ever, which is why the logo means everything.
- 31:07Speaker 3: Because the popularity of the sport is just as high
- 31:11Speaker 3: as it's ever been. People still love it. People are
- 31:13Speaker 3: going to go crazy for the games we have tonight
- 31:15Speaker 3: and tomorrow.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Yes, I know you'll get to those momentarily, but ask
- 31:19Speaker 2: me that question again about what's-his-face.
- 31:21Speaker 3: What's his face?
- 31:23Speaker 2: Miko, I love him.
- 31:24Speaker 3: Oh, see, okay, now you tell me you hate Miko Reina.
- 31:27Speaker 4: No, I don't.
- 31:27Speaker 2: Yes, you do. Yes, you do. You know what? Good
- 31:30Speaker 2: for him. Oh, really?
- 31:32Speaker 3: How do you feel about Matt Duchesne, man? How do
- 31:34Speaker 3: you feel.
- 31:34Speaker 2: About Matt Duchesne? Great, great.
- 31:35Speaker 3: Nah, you hate that guy.
- 31:37Speaker 2: Wish him the best.
- 31:37Speaker 3: How do you feel about Wojtek Wolski?
- 31:40Speaker 2: Oh, I like Woj.
- 31:41Speaker 3: That guy hated you, bro.
- 31:43Speaker 2: I know. I'm good with Woj now. Woj and I
- 31:45Speaker 2: are good now. Honestly, Woj and I are good now, but...
- 31:49Speaker 2: How do I feel about Arenado? You know, I wish
- 31:51Speaker 2: him the best in Arizona. Good luck.
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- 32:13Speaker 3: It's Bud Light Football Friday. That's right.
- 32:15Speaker 2: It's the weekend.
- 32:16Speaker 3: It's time to get riggity, riggity, riggity. Rexon, if you're
- 32:19Speaker 3: doing that at 744 in the morning, I salute you.
- 32:22Speaker 3: I salute you.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Wait, hold on a second. What? Vic, we're going to
- 32:27Speaker 2: talk some Broncos football here. I get that.
- 32:28Speaker 3: Riggedy, riggedy, Rexon!
- 32:32Speaker 2: Okay. You think there are people, because it's a football Friday. Yeah.
- 32:37Speaker 2: You think there are people.
- 32:38Speaker 3: We got a game in like nine hours. You know
- 32:40Speaker 3: what I mean? Like Oklahoma and UTEP kick off here
- 32:43Speaker 3: in like eight. Start pre-gaming now.
- 32:47Speaker 2: You're telling me there's not Sooners.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Fans pre-gaming right now? Because I will call you a liar.
- 32:51Speaker 2: You think there are Sooners fans at 8.44 in the
- 32:53Speaker 2: morning in Norman pre-gaming? Yes.
- 32:56Speaker 3: I'm saying there's Sooner fans in this city who are
- 32:58Speaker 3: pre-gaming right now.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark Springer. That's right.
- 33:01Speaker 3: Springer is taking shots right now. He's getting riggity-riggity.
- 33:05Speaker 4: See, this is what happens, Moj. You didn't attend a
- 33:07Speaker 4: football school. You don't know what it's like.
- 33:12Speaker 3: It's a whole day thing, man. This ain't like, let's
- 33:14Speaker 3: get ready in the afternoon. It's a whole day event.
- 33:17Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure at Sac State, you guys weren't
- 33:19Speaker 4: pre-gaming for that mighty game against Belleville College.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:23Speaker 3: You're telling me the Miami Hurricanes, who play tonight in Stanford,
- 33:27Speaker 3: ain't pre-gaming? Those turkeys ain't pre-gaming right now?
- 33:30Speaker 2: I hate to do this, but you're making me get defensive. Oh, sorry.
- 33:35Speaker 4: Okay?
- 33:36Speaker 2: Oh, look at me. I'm the... And Baylor... You were
- 33:39Speaker 2: so far into your Bible at 8.45 in the morning
- 33:41Speaker 2: on a game day.
- 33:42Speaker 4: Birdo, you weren't allowed to dance on campus.
- 33:46Speaker 2: How were you allowed to drink? You got a Bible
- 33:48Speaker 2: in one hand and a bottle of Jack in the other?
- 33:50Speaker 4: Vic, who went.
- 33:52Speaker 3: To the most famous religious school in this country, man.
- 33:55Speaker 2: Yeah, but we could dance on campus.
- 33:57Speaker 3: You guys weren't even allowed to two-step. Listen, man, them
- 33:59Speaker 3: Baptists don't play. They don't play around, man. You know
- 34:02Speaker 3: what I mean?
- 34:02Speaker 2: I remember when I was in 8th grade.
- 34:04Speaker 4: When I was in Austin, when I was in Austin,
- 34:06Speaker 4: I remember going up to Baylor's campus. And at the time,
- 34:09Speaker 4: the coach was, who was the famous coach back then?
- 34:12Speaker 4: Gosh darn it.
- 34:13Speaker 3: Well, like a couple of them did some.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Really shady stuff. Art Bryles.
- 34:16Speaker 4: No, no. The guy way before that. The old guy
- 34:19Speaker 4: that was there forever. Oh, I'll think of his name.
- 34:22Speaker 4: His name's escaping me. Anyway, I'm going up there. And
- 34:26Speaker 4: at that time, dancing on campus in the 90s was verboten.
- 34:31Speaker 2: I know.
- 34:32Speaker 3: Couldn't do it.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Couldn't dance.
- 34:34Speaker 4: So I remember telling my photographer, I go, what if
- 34:37Speaker 4: I just do the MC Hammer in the middle of practice?
- 34:41Speaker 4: What if I just go out like, did I get
- 34:43Speaker 4: kicked off here?
- 34:44Speaker 2: Like, what happens? Does somebody tackle me? Do I get tasered?
- 34:48Speaker 2: It's like the entire university living the script from Footloose. Anyway, listen.
- 34:55Speaker 2: It's the craziest thing ever.
- 34:56Speaker 3: No, yeah, it was weird. They would let us play
- 34:58Speaker 3: with live bears, but we couldn't dance. Like, they had
- 35:00Speaker 3: a live bear on campus that you could pet and
- 35:02Speaker 3: hang out with. And they taught that bear how to
- 35:04Speaker 3: drink Dr. Pepper because Dr. Pepper was invented in Waco, Texas.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Right.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Hang out with a bear, it's hammer Dr. Pepper, you're
- 35:09Speaker 3: hammering Coors Light, you're like, this is the best thing ever!
- 35:11Speaker 3: They're like, don't you dance, turkey!
- 35:14Speaker 4: So did you have school dances?
- 35:17Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were all off campus. When sororities and
- 35:20Speaker 3: fraternities would do stuff, it's.
- 35:21Speaker 2: All off campus.
- 35:22Speaker 4: I could see Catholic school slow dance where you're separated
- 35:25Speaker 4: by three feet.
- 35:27Speaker 3: There's a ruler!
- 35:28Speaker 2: You gotta put a yardstick in between. Thank you, Texter.
- 35:31Speaker 4: Grant Taft, one of the nicest human beings ever. He
- 35:34Speaker 4: was such a nice man.
- 35:35Speaker 2: So Josh, man, Josh in Firestone says this. Greta, copy that.
- 35:39Speaker 2: My boss is a Sooner fan. He isn't here today.
- 35:41Speaker 2: What do you think he's doing?
- 35:42Speaker 3: He's pre-gaming right now.
- 35:44Speaker 2: But if the thing is, I don't know how... The
- 35:46Speaker 2: guy is drunk. But how do these people do it? Because...
- 35:50Speaker 2: There's no way you can start now and continue it
- 35:54Speaker 2: all day into the night. Oh, the hell you can't? No, no.
- 35:57Speaker 2: You've got to take a break. There's got to be
- 35:59Speaker 2: a nappy in there someplace.
- 36:01Speaker 3: No, I don't think you need a nap. I mean,
- 36:02Speaker 3: you could take a nap and hit the reset button.
- 36:04Speaker 2: But no, I think you can just keep it going, man.
- 36:07Speaker 2: I could never do that. I would have to.
- 36:09Speaker 3: No, I bet you there has been a time in
- 36:11Speaker 3: his life where Vic started in the morning and kept
- 36:13Speaker 3: going all day. I'm just throwing it out there. It
- 36:15Speaker 3: might have been 20 years ago.
- 36:16Speaker 2: I was never that guy. Oh, really?
- 36:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Really?
- 36:18Speaker 4: I was never that guy.
- 36:19Speaker 2: No, I don't remember. I don't have the capacity to
- 36:22Speaker 2: do that. Peter Schaefer. Said the tweet out one time.
- 36:25Speaker 2: The late, great Peter Schaefer, who's still alive. I was
- 36:28Speaker 2: about to say, what? No, he's still alive. What? That's
- 36:31Speaker 2: my thing. But he said, like a grandpappy would say,
- 36:36Speaker 2: you can't drink all day if you don't start in
- 36:39Speaker 2: the morning. So, all right, if you guys are pre-gaming,
- 36:42Speaker 2: I mean, good luck to you. You're stronger human beings
- 36:45Speaker 2: than I am in that regard, okay? Either way, by
- 36:49Speaker 2: the way, I was reading an article on ESPN.com. I
- 36:53Speaker 2: like to read ESPN.com, mostly for Jeff Legwald.
- 36:56Speaker 4: Really? Because there was an article that was written at ESPN.com
- 36:59Speaker 4: that I insisted you read before we interviewed the subject matter,
- 37:02Speaker 4: and you said the article was too long to read,
- 37:04Speaker 4: so you didn't read it.
- 37:05Speaker 2: Oh, man. Are you? Okay.
- 37:09Speaker 4: Do you remember that article? Do you remember the article
- 37:12Speaker 4: that was written about Sean Payton, do you remember that
- 37:15Speaker 4: by chance?
- 37:15Speaker 3: Oh, that was a long article.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Yeah, that was... I read the article. I said, I
- 37:20Speaker 2: ain't reading it right now, but I eventually got it.
- 37:22Speaker 2: So you didn't read it before. I read about a
- 37:25Speaker 2: quarter of it, and then I'm like, it's too much
- 37:26Speaker 2: for right now. I'll get to the rest of it later.
- 37:29Speaker 4: We bring the author of the article on the show
- 37:31Speaker 4: to talk about the article, but Mosher did not read
- 37:34Speaker 4: the article before interviewing the guy.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Did you tell him that you didn't read it?
- 37:38Speaker 2: I read about a fourth of it.
- 37:39Speaker 4: No, you didn't.
- 37:40Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I couldn't. I'm like, I'm not going
- 37:42Speaker 2: to get through the rest of it. No, it's not
- 37:44Speaker 2: going to happen.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Did you almost say, I'm not good at reading?
- 37:47Speaker 2: Is that what you said? I ain't good at the
- 37:50Speaker 2: reading part. Let me, you know what? Okay. Speaking of
- 37:53Speaker 2: Sean Payton, but this has been so like, hold on
- 37:55Speaker 2: a second. Okay.
- 37:55Speaker 3: Hit me with it.
- 37:56Speaker 2: All 32 teams. He's given the X factor player for
- 37:59Speaker 2: that team. Who do you think his X factor player
- 38:03Speaker 2: is for the Denver Broncos? J.K. Dobbins.
- 38:05Speaker 3: Davis Webb.
- 38:07Speaker 2: Player.
- 38:08Speaker 4: J.K.
- 38:08Speaker 2: Dobbins.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Sean Payton.
- 38:10Speaker 2: J.K. Dobbins. You're, you're, you're excused. Greg Penner. You're excused.
- 38:13Speaker 2: How many times I'm going to have to say it? No, you're,
- 38:15Speaker 2: you're fine. It's not that. It's not what he says.
- 38:18Speaker 2: He's wrong, then, because it is J.K.
- 38:20Speaker 4: Dobbins.
- 38:20Speaker 2: If J.K.
- 38:21Speaker 4: Dobbins remains healthy, he is the X factor. He is
- 38:24Speaker 4: the factor.
- 38:25Speaker 2: I totally agree. But he went to Riley Moss.
- 38:31Speaker 3: You know what?
- 38:32Speaker 2: That's a... But he says... Niche pick. It is. He
- 38:37Speaker 2: says the Broncos defense goes as far as Moss goes
- 38:40Speaker 2: for one reason, and this is the God's honest truth.
- 38:43Speaker 3: He's the weak link?
- 38:44Speaker 2: No, he's the most targeted cornerback in all of pro football.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Moss saw a league-leading 116 targets last season as the
- 38:54Speaker 2: teams worked away from Pat Sertan. In 2024, Moss was
- 38:58Speaker 2: third with 102, and he missed three games because of injury.
- 39:02Speaker 2: So what that means is... That ain't slowing down. NFL
- 39:07Speaker 2: offensive coordinators are going to look to his side of
- 39:10Speaker 2: the field way more than they look to the other
- 39:12Speaker 2: because they don't want to deal with the best corner
- 39:14Speaker 2: in the league, and I don't blame them. And he
- 39:16Speaker 2: goes on to say that Moss and his suffocating presence
- 39:19Speaker 2: in man coverage because of his speed and length needs
- 39:22Speaker 2: to be even better this year because, Vic, and this
- 39:25Speaker 2: is what we're talking about, and this is where the
- 39:27Speaker 2: X factor becomes even amplified and multiplied. because of the
- 39:31Speaker 2: departure of John Franklin Myers. And is that pass rush
- 39:35Speaker 2: going to look the same without Jonathan Cooper as well?
- 39:39Speaker 2: And if it doesn't look the same, And Moss is
- 39:42Speaker 2: out there, and they're going to continue to target him. Listen,
- 39:45Speaker 2: even the best corners in the league can only cover
- 39:48Speaker 2: for a certain amount of time. And having that pass
- 39:51Speaker 2: rush cause havoc to opposing quarterbacks makes it a little
- 39:56Speaker 2: bit easier on you, even though you're in man coverage
- 39:58Speaker 2: all the time. Sorry, Moshe, I didn't read the article. Okay.
- 40:01Speaker 2: If you give that quarterback even that much more time...
- 40:05Speaker 2: Wide receivers find a way to separate, and that's why
- 40:08Speaker 2: things get crazy when a quarterback has all day in
- 40:11Speaker 2: the pocket to stand and throw the ball. Blah, blah, blah.
- 40:13Speaker 4: Whoever wrote that has no idea what he's talking about.
- 40:17Speaker 4: The key to the Broncos season is J.K.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Dobbins. I mean, blah, blah, blah. We'll see.
- 40:22Speaker 3: As in, if he stays healthy, you're good.
- 40:26Speaker 2: That's the key.
- 40:26Speaker 4: The key is to keep him on the field. If
- 40:28Speaker 4: he plays in the AFC Championship game, the Broncos win.
- 40:30Speaker 4: I mean, come on. Let's not pretend that we're good.
- 40:34Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.
- 40:35Speaker 4: Every defensive piece is important. I'm not trying to diminish
- 40:38Speaker 4: Riley Moss' role on this team. Of course he's important.
- 40:40Speaker 2: Of course he is.
- 40:42Speaker 4: But they have depth there. They have different pieces. J.K.
- 40:44Speaker 4: Dobbins does something that's unique, that when he's on the field,
- 40:48Speaker 4: it changes the complexion.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Of the offense.
- 40:51Speaker 4: It does. So he is the key. He is the linchpin.
- 40:55Speaker 4: We've seen it with our own eyes.
- 40:57Speaker 3: I was not worried about anything with the Denver Broncos,
- 40:59Speaker 3: but Nate and Andy have convinced me They think that
- 41:02Speaker 3: Broncos defense is going to fall off this season. And
- 41:05Speaker 3: they have, like, numbers saying that, listen, it's just not
- 41:09Speaker 3: historically accurate in the NFL.
- 41:11Speaker 2: Go outside, nerd.
- 41:12Speaker 3: You have a defense that good four straight years, and
- 41:16Speaker 3: they've had a great difference for three straight years. They
- 41:18Speaker 3: think there's going to be a fall.
- 41:19Speaker 2: Off somehow, someway.
- 41:21Speaker 4: You know, we've had this conversation, Berto, and it's not
- 41:23Speaker 4: a bad one to make. I mean, clearly, to have
- 41:24Speaker 4: those numbers again would be amazing. But you may not
- 41:29Speaker 4: have the equivalent numbers defensively and still be an effective
- 41:32Speaker 4: defense because you know what number that they can improve on?
- 41:35Speaker 4: It's turnovers, takeaways. They didn't take the ball away last year.
- 41:39Speaker 4: You can give up some long drives and still take
- 41:40Speaker 4: the ball away, and it could change a game.
- 41:42Speaker 2: Absolutely. How many picks does Riley Moss have the last
- 41:45Speaker 2: two years, despite all those targets? 102 and 24 and
- 41:48Speaker 2: 112 last year. Over two years, I'll say four.
- 41:49Speaker 1: Six.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Two.
- 41:55Speaker 4: Two?
- 41:56Speaker 2: Two?
- 41:56Speaker 3: Man, I was way off. Well, isn't that what Patrick
- 41:58Speaker 3: had last year, right? Sertan had two picks last year?
- 42:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:01Speaker 3: But nobody throws at him, obviously.
- 42:02Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So despite being third and then first
- 42:06Speaker 2: in targets as a cornerback in the National Football League,
- 42:10Speaker 2: he's got two picks. So it's going to be imperative, again,
- 42:13Speaker 2: if that pass rush, Vic, is not– I don't disagree
- 42:16Speaker 2: with you on Dobbins because he was a top ten
- 42:18Speaker 2: back last year before he got hurt. I mean, he
- 42:20Speaker 2: really was. Yeah. But if that pass rush is diminished,
- 42:24Speaker 2: what percentage would it be diminished without JFM and Jonathan Cooper?
- 42:28Speaker 4: See, the pick thing for those corners, Bronco corners, that
- 42:30Speaker 4: never bothers me.
- 42:31Speaker 2: When someone says they don't have enough picks.
- 42:33Speaker 4: If you watch football, hell, if you've played that position,
- 42:36Speaker 4: if you're playing man-to-man, which is what the Broncos do,
- 42:38Speaker 4: your back is to the ball.
- 42:40Speaker 2: Your back is to the quarterback. You're chasing.
- 42:42Speaker 4: You're chasing. A lot of zone defenses produce picks because
- 42:47Speaker 4: you're seeing the ball. But if your back is to
- 42:49Speaker 4: the ball all the time, you're trying to see the ball,
- 42:52Speaker 4: but your effort is to see the player you're covering.
- 42:55Speaker 4: So the picks don't come with playing man as much
- 42:58Speaker 4: as they do playing zone.
- 43:02Speaker 3: It's a Bud Light Football Friday before a long week
- 43:04Speaker 3: and a perfect time to kick it off with Andy
- 43:07Speaker 3: and Jeff Legwald head up to In The Zone in
- 43:09Speaker 3: Golden right next to where Vic lives. What's your point, Ned?
- 43:12Speaker 4: You know, I live here. I live here, and I
- 43:15Speaker 4: was going to go visit those.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Boys because literally.
- 43:17Speaker 4: That place is about a half a mile from where
- 43:19Speaker 4: I live. But today, I'm going to embark on my...
- 43:23Speaker 4: It's going to take a while. I'm going to have
- 43:24Speaker 4: to rent a Winnebago. I'm actually going to drive to Parker, Colorado.
- 43:29Speaker 4: And I don't know how people live that far away.
- 43:32Speaker 2: Honest to God.
- 43:32Speaker 4: The good people at Parker. Tonight, we are broadcasting a
- 43:36Speaker 4: football game that will be simulcast on Altitude Radio. It's
- 43:39Speaker 4: going to be on Altitude Television. It is a high
- 43:41Speaker 4: school football game. We're going to carry them every week
- 43:43Speaker 4: on Altitude. It is the Battle of Parker, Colorado, Legend
- 43:48Speaker 4: versus Chaparral. And it's at Echo Park. And I looked
- 43:52Speaker 4: at the map and I said, how does civilization stray
- 43:55Speaker 4: this far off? How do people live all the way
- 43:58Speaker 4: down here?
- 43:59Speaker 2: In the boonies.
- 44:00Speaker 4: Seriously, it is a lot.
- 44:01Speaker 2: It's cruel. I don't know.
- 44:03Speaker 4: It's cruel to make me drive that far off the map.
- 44:06Speaker 3: Mosier, and he just keeps buying houses. He just can't
- 44:10Speaker 3: help himself, man. The furthest, farthest town from where he works,
- 44:13Speaker 3: he wants to move and live.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Actually, where we are right now.
- 44:17Speaker 3: Pretty far?
- 44:19Speaker 2: No, it's very easy for me to get through this building.
- 44:22Speaker 2: So I'm loving this. I'm absolutely loving it. Vic- Have
- 44:26Speaker 2: fun tonight with that. Appreciate it.
- 44:29Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your, like, you got a good vibe with Tyler?
- 44:32Speaker 3: Because Tyler's on color, right?
- 44:33Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, working with Tyler's easy. The problem with these games,
- 44:36Speaker 4: as Mark can attest, is I have no clue who
- 44:39Speaker 4: these players are. And you're trying to teach yourself and
- 44:42Speaker 4: remember the names of players. And I'm going to make
- 44:45Speaker 4: a lot of mistakes because it's hard to, It's hard
- 44:47Speaker 4: to just jump into that stuff.
- 44:48Speaker 2: When I do it, once I get to about the
- 44:50Speaker 2: start of the second quarter, then I'm good.
- 44:53Speaker 3: You're feeling it.
- 44:53Speaker 2: But that first quarter is difficult because you don't know
- 44:56Speaker 2: these kids at all. So that's what makes it hard.
- 45:00Speaker 4: I would love for Legend to put out a roster
- 45:02Speaker 4: that matches its players because right now the roster you
- 45:04Speaker 4: have out there, it doesn't match one bit. So help
- 45:07Speaker 4: me out.
- 45:08Speaker 2: Okay. Also today, Bert. Okay. What time we have Brian
- 45:11Speaker 2: Roth on to talk Rams? 840. 840. 820. 840? 840 is.
- 45:17Speaker 3: What's up or something?
- 45:18Speaker 2: You know what happens?
- 45:19Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, at 8.20, we're talking to Brian Roth.
- 45:21Speaker 3: 8.20, my bad.
- 45:22Speaker 2: Final segment of the show today. This is week one
- 45:26Speaker 2: of college football. You realize what we're going to do?
- 45:28Speaker 3: You're going to lay it down?
- 45:30Speaker 2: We are going to lay it down. Now.
- 45:31Speaker 3: Give me just a little. Give me just a.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Just a. Just a. You're asking Nelly to give you
- 45:37Speaker 2: just a taste?
- 45:38Speaker 3: Just a taste. Give me a taste, Nelly. Whoa.
- 45:43Speaker 2: Bear, what does Bear say?
- 45:45Speaker 4: Lay that s * * * down!
- 45:48Speaker 2: Okay, so I've got to redeem myself a little bit
- 45:51Speaker 2: this week.
- 45:52Speaker 3: Oh, your picks were terrible last week?
- 45:53Speaker 2: I was 1-3. It was not a great start to
- 45:55Speaker 2: the season, but I have a tendency to rebound quite nicely.
- 45:59Speaker 2: And I think today's the day that we're going to
- 46:01Speaker 2: do that.
- 46:02Speaker 4: All right, well, we'll talk about it. Texter6834 says, Vic,
- 46:06Speaker 4: I live in Greeley and I drive to Highlands Ranch
- 46:08Speaker 4: for work. I have little sympathy for your drive. I
- 46:11Speaker 4: have a lot of sympathy for you.
- 46:12Speaker 2: My man.
- 46:12Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a terrible drive.
- 46:13Speaker 2: What are you doing?
- 46:13Speaker 4: I mean, that's like driving from Peru to Canada. I mean,
- 46:17Speaker 4: what are we doing here?
- 46:18Speaker 3: Crazy drive, man. Move closer. It's a Bud Light Football Friday.
- 46:22Speaker 3: We'll roll on next.