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Listening Is The Secret To Business Growth · Divas That Care Network

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  Speaker 2: Today I'm chatting with Debbie Van Kamp.
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  Speaker 2: Debbie Van Kamp is the okay.
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  Speaker 2: So the CBWN community has been an inspiration and a soft place to land for businesswomen and entrepreneurs for 16 years in the Calgary area.
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  Speaker 2: Ideas are shared, friendships are made and new beginnings are welcomed, and Debbie is the owner of the CBWN, which stands for Connected Businesswomen Network Business Women Network.
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  Speaker 2: Her other venture, color Street Nails, is a fun business that allows her to watch people transform and have fun with nail color without the drying time and the hassle.
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  Speaker 2: So welcome Debbie, good morning, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to know what does Boss Babe, summer look like for you this year?
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  Speaker 3: maybe need some tweaking, be open to ideas, meet with my volunteer committee and see how we can really start projecting into the fall and then into the new year.
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  Speaker 3: I start planning my calendar at this time for next year already, so I'm a bit of a chronic planner, which can be a good thing and it can be not so good, but I like to think it's a strength.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Actually.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think that's good.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's some like truth behind that right, I mean knowing what, what we went through this year.
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  Speaker 2: How do we want to, you know, make it happen again next year or cut it right?
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  Speaker 2: That gives you lots of time to fix your calendar.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome, and so how?
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  Speaker 2: I mean we all?
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  Speaker 2: Summer is the time of partying and fun, and you know, restful, restfulness.
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  Speaker 2: How are you using this season to recharge and refresh yourself?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it really is a fantastic time of year for me personally.
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  Speaker 3: A number of years ago, we invested in a property here in British Columbia and so we've been growing this property for 16 years with the vision of semi-retirement retirement.
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  Speaker 3: So we have found that over the past few years we just keep spending more time here and we're in an RV park, so it is only open until Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 3: So we really make the best out of our summer, because we all know we live in Canada and summer is about a minute long, right.
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  Speaker 3: So we really do enjoy our time out here and we really connect with people out here.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, it's like when you go to camp you have your summer friends and then you have your winter friends and then maybe you have your holiday friends.
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  Speaker 3: So out here, all of us me, my husband and even our dog we all have our summer friends and we do different things.
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  Speaker 3: We go in the boat and we go for long walks and we go golfing we're right on a little nine hole golf course and just enjoy the, the beautiful long days of brightness and I just summer is my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not long enough yeah, I know that that's everyone's complaint.
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  Speaker 2: Right, summer's not long enough.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like you know it's so awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Right, like Summer's not long enough.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like you know it's so awesome, right Like it's I mean, it's summertime, right Like you know that you're going to do all these things golf, and you know, spend time with your friends and all the things but how, where and how do you find time to plan, to refocus for the fall?
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  Speaker 3: Well, and it's really interesting because I've always worked from a home-based business since I moved to Calgary in 1997.
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  Speaker 3: And I have just found that if I get up in the morning and I have my couple of cups of coffee track out the day the night before, I'm usually really efficient in the mornings, and so is my husband.
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  Speaker 3: So we find that the mornings we work, and then in the afternoons and maybe in the evening, a little happy hour we play.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that, and so I mean obviously your husband is on board with that.
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  Speaker 2: Does he have a business of his own as well?
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  Speaker 3: He is a contractor and he's an accountant, so of course they have a very busy season, but it starts to slow down conveniently.
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  Speaker 3: July and August are not as busy, so it's just everything just works out perfectly for us.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know about you, but when you're an entrepreneur I just it's always kind of noodling around and then all of a sudden someone will say something, or you know, we might have an event out here that was really fun, and it's like, oh, how could I incorporate that?
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  Speaker 3: So you're off, but are you really ever off, Right?
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  Speaker 2: right.
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  Speaker 2: I always say, like my business is like my new baby, right, like I, you know, I kind of treat it like it's a child, right, it's always on my mind.
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  Speaker 2: It's always like there's always grooming right, there's always something to be doing, you know, to make it flourish right, absolutely, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I love that it's because it's always on the top of your mind.
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  Speaker 2: So, what is one thing I mean summertime is a hard time to say no, right, right, let's face it.
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  Speaker 2: What is one thing that you have to like, with intention, say no to over the summer?
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  Speaker 2: That makes space for you, for growth, whether it be for yourself or for your business.
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  Speaker 3: You know, at my age you'd think I'd have that figured out, but I have a hard time saying no and everything is an opportunity for me.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't say no a lot, but I do know when I go back into Calgary because I usually go back every month or five weeks it's just I get there and I hit the ground running and last month was crazy, it was nonstop and I was driving back out to the cabin and I thought I have to learn to say no, because I get there and it's like hit the ground running and so did I provide a lot of value when you've only got small pockets of time.
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  Speaker 3: So learning to say no, I think is a real challenge, and I think it's a challenge for, I think, women entrepreneurs.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we tend to want to always give, not disappoint, people.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe that's just a me trait no, I think that's, I think that's a definitely a woman's trait, right.
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  Speaker 2: But I see like my husband has his own company as well and I like I don't see him at work.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't talk work, I don't know anything about his business, right, like I, you know, I have no idea what's on.
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  Speaker 2: But I see, like when he comes home from work, he puts his phone away and he's like I'm not at work.
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  Speaker 2: Right, if the phone is going to ring, if he's going to get text messages or emails, he's not looking at that until the morning.
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  Speaker 2: And I look at that and I go, okay, so something's wrong either with him or with me, because we are not the same.
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  Speaker 2: Right, like I can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Like my phone is always in my hand and I don't have clients that are, you know, texting me or emailing me or calling me, even after five o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen, right, they've got their lives to live.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm always afraid, like how, how do you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Right, I know it's possible, I see it, right, it is possible, it is possible, it is possible.
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  Speaker 3: And I always say, when people expect a quick response, like that's kind of my thing, when people expect a quick response, I've kind of trained them to expect that of me.
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  Speaker 3: I have trained them to expect that of me because I did expect it of myself and it's not reasonable, no, and it doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 3: I admire your husband.
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  Speaker 3: Me too I mean I wish he could bottle that and just send a little bit of that over here.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and I think, well, and I think it's like a muscle, right.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's something we have to teach ourselves, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like I know, taking the phone to our rooms at night is not healthy, right?
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  Speaker 2: And so when my kids were young I used to there were no phones allowed in the bedrooms period.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't care whose phone it was, right, their friends would come over and they'd have to leave that on the kitchen table, right.
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  Speaker 2: But then, as they got older and became adults, I never had that rule anymore, right?
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  Speaker 2: And so I found myself like I my phone comes to my room often, but now.
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  Speaker 2: I leave it in the bathroom, right, because I'm like if I have it beside me it's not good for my brain, right?
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  Speaker 2: But if I can't sleep at night, what do I do?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't sleep.
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  Speaker 2: Let's, yeah, let's scroll, right.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't touch my phone until the morning, because I need it for meditating, and you know all the things.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, yeah, I think that's where we need to say no to number one, like in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: But I also believe that you know we have to learn how to use no as a sentence, right, because isn't that the word, right?
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  Speaker 2: No is a full sentence.
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  Speaker 2: Can you help me?
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  Speaker 2: Not right now.
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  Speaker 3: Right, exactly, and that's not even really.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's not really.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: And it's interesting because in my career and I worked for a charity and I learned that if I was looking for sponsorship or help or whatever, my go-to sentence was is that no, or is that no?
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  Speaker 3: Right now, right, and we should say that to ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: Almost it's not no forever, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: It's this moment in time.
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  Speaker 3: And talking about phones, I mean I use the alarm clock on my phone, so, but I'm very good about not scrolling.
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  Speaker 3: I mean once, once I put it down, excuse me, and plug it in.
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  Speaker 3: It's, it's done, they say it's back, they do say you do.
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  Speaker 2: I actually started for a while there.
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  Speaker 2: For a long time I would put it to bed right At 830.
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  Speaker 2: It was bedtime, just like a child, right 830.
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  Speaker 2: I put it in my office on my desk on the charging cord and that was it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see it again until the morning and I'll tell you, I slept better when I was doing that, right.
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  Speaker 2: Everything was just so much more smoother and calmer, right.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, hard habits are hard to break.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and it's interesting because I pride myself in saying well, in the morning I have a couple, couple of coffees and then I get dressed and ready for the day.
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  Speaker 3: If I could just pride myself in saying and then at five o'clock I put the phone in my office and close the door and don't.
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  Speaker 3: So I have always found that at the end of the day I'm not as disciplined as I am in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, and that's like, again, it's just something that we have to work on, right, and it's obviously like something we are going to be working on for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and when we get that figured out, it'll be something else, and that's absolutely yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So tell me, what mindset shift has helped you level up in your business or in your life recently?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think probably the biggest moment for me recently has been my business partner at Connected Business Women Network.
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  Speaker 3: We've been together in this partnership for 15 years.
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  Speaker 3: We started with a different company and then that went away.
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  Speaker 3: So we continued and so it was.
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  Speaker 3: She retired exactly a year ago and it was.
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  Speaker 3: I knew I wanted to carry on.
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  Speaker 3: I knew what we had was fantastic, and that's why branding for me is interesting, because we always say, well, branding is about you, branding is about your, and once you become a unit and you're in a partnership, if that partnership goes away and she retires, then what?
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  Speaker 3: What's the brand?
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  Speaker 3: We've been saying the secret sauce, the dynamic duo.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's like ooh.
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  Speaker 3: So last summer was a very interesting summer in terms of working really hard on what was that going to look like without the other person?
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  Speaker 3: And I knew right away I wanted to continue.
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  Speaker 3: So it took a lot of thinking, turning internal, uh, talking to people, changing processes, making it work, so that this now could still carry on with one person with the responsibilities of two people, and so it was a huge adjustment and still adjusting.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, every meeting I learned something.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the best thing that people can do, and entrepreneurs especially, is to listen to their audience, listen to their client, because you know people will say when someone tells you something, you should listen because there's a reason.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: None of us would have businesses without clients and listening to our client.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that is so true, right.
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  Speaker 2: And once we start listening to them and giving them what they need, right, we also learn what needs we have Right, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What is one summer habit or ritual that keeps you in your?
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  Speaker 3: power.
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  Speaker 3: I think having a schedule but not having a schedule Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the I know I'm committed in the morning, I'm going to work for this long and then, like anyone else I mean, if we worked for an employer, we'd have two weeks of holidays- yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that we always do that for ourselves in our business because we feel like we might miss something or things will just get derailed and the world will fall apart.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's balance and we all look for balance, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's kind of keeping your eye on on on the prize, and yet recharging our batteries and saying, well, that was a really great summer.
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  Speaker 3: I really we did fun things.
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  Speaker 3: We saw, like, if you go on a hike for two hours, things are going to be okay, yeah, and I think it's doing all those things that we don't get to do all year round, right, it's just a different time of year where there's different opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: You stay outside longer or you go for hikes instead of freezing and blowing snow, so it's doing new things.
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  Speaker 2: That also stretches your brain or you go for hikes instead of freezing and blowing snow, so it's doing new things.
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  Speaker 2: That also stretches your brain.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, when it is minus 40 outside and you're sitting inside and you see, like the, you know, the four feet of snow and like you know, you have to remember, remember in the summertime, when I went on that two hour long hike and I regretted it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not regretting it right now.
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  Speaker 2: Right, because I got to be outside and it wasn't freezing, there wasn't all that snow, right, and it just helps you sort of ground yourself Right and be I get through.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to be there, right, and now I get to be here, right, and I think that's an easy way to reframe yourself or your mindset.
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  Speaker 2: Right, like I got to do that because the weather was, you know, working with me.
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  Speaker 2: Today it's not, so I get to be here and focus here.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: What is a recent mistake or learning moment, we'll call it that pushed you forward, or learning moment.
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  Speaker 3: We'll call it.
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  Speaker 3: That pushed you forward.
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  Speaker 3: A recent mistake, let me see, oh, Recent mistake.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think if I have mistakes, my mistakes are to feel like I need to respond too quickly.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a specific example, no, and that's, that's fair, right, I mean, and the thing is, you don't need to tell the entire world your mistakes, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know we have to have some, some kind of closure here, but at the same same time, like I, when I hear that question, I think you know there's a reason why we do what we do, right.
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  Speaker 2: And so you know why am I doing this this way?
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  Speaker 2: Because I mean, it probably didn't work for you.
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  Speaker 2: You know before, right, and you learned.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like social media, like when you're scrolling on social media, how many hours do we lose, right?
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  Speaker 2: How many hours do we lose Just because we want to see what everybody's doing?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Do we really need to know what everybody's doing, or what they're eating, or what they're eating, like, seriously, right?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: We don't need to know that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what, that's our mistake.
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  Speaker 2: Because we can put whatever we want on there, right, we can put whatever we want on social media, but that doesn't mean we have to spend time reading it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, if you want to comment, by all means, you know, get involved.
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  Speaker 2: But sometimes it's I don't want to say unimportant or unnecessary, but it kind of is right, it becomes a rabbit hole for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and how, like?
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  Speaker 2: How many times have we done that?
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  Speaker 2: Like that's one thing that I I know that you know I'll.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just look at one or two videos, right, or like reels, and next thing I know it's an hour later and I'm like, oh my God, there goes most of my day Now I have to catch up that time Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I know that's a mistake that I make.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, and from that I'm like okay, I'm going to set a timer, you know, and I actually do that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a really good idea, because you can just go down that rabbit hole and next thing, you know, like you said, oh, it's lunch.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, and then it's like, well, now I have a meeting, I don't have time to make my lunch, or I don't have time for this or what you know, whatever your day looks like, and so I set a timer for myself and that helps me.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I can see five or six of these little reels.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fun's over, breaks over, right, like now.
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  Speaker 2: It's back to work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, um, CBWN, is that like your own business?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so tell me if, if you could tell your younger self just one thing, what would you, you know, before launching it or before taking it on, what would that be?
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  Speaker 3: I think you know, 16 years we've seen a lot of change in our world, in our business, in the ladies that attend our lunches, their businesses.
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  Speaker 3: Less rigid is really and not that I was but not to be afraid to change, to embrace change to, and that's what networking is really about is about listening and then responding versus always being the talk, talk, talk.
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  Speaker 3: So, I think, not to be afraid of change to be able and we've had to pivot, like everyone else, in different circumstances, whether it be business or health or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, everyone has to pivot for a different reason, but without resistance, with more patience, resistance with more patience and less fear.
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  Speaker 2: I think I love that.
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  Speaker 2: You know that is advice that everybody should be listening to.
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  Speaker 3: Right, be ready be ready for what's going to happen tomorrow, yeah, so tell me, what's your go to summer?
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  Speaker 3: Reflection, I would say a lot of reflection, and then we have just an enormous wonderful community, and so spending time listening, listening and reflection, which then leads to goals, and planning.
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  Speaker 2: I love this.
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  Speaker 2: This is great.
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  Speaker 2: This is really awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So now we kind of know a little bit about your daily routine.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I know we have to, you know, get going because you have another appointment to get to.
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  Speaker 2: Um.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to ask one more question if you would now fast forward to the end of your summer, which is going to be thanksgiving weekend in october.
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  Speaker 2: From what I understand, what would you say yes to?
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  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, what?
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  Speaker 2: What would you?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this this way what would make you say yes to leveling up?
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  Speaker 3: I just think and it's different when you're in a partnership there's two brains and we worked very well together.
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  Speaker 3: We had totally opposite strengths.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: We had totally opposite strengths, but when you're a sole proprietor and you no longer have that fear, leveling up is the essence of going forward, and I had a very, very intelligent young man tell me years and years ago that the only thing that stops us is fear, and if you're afraid, you're not moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: So I think when you get to be my age, that fear goes away a little bit because you've learned from your mistakes and your mistakes could be a blessing, and I mean I just still, after 16 years, have a vision for this organization, and I think you and I talked about it the other day is that you just have to put one foot in front of the other In terms of leveling up.
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely am excited for the next gen coming up.
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  Speaker 3: They are smart, they don't seem afraid, they like to try new things, they have a different version of life, they tend to have really good life balance and I think they are a bright light for me and I think listening to them and learning from them will help all of us level up.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 2: So they see the world differently for sure.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think that we have there's lots to learn, right?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: There's lots for us to learn from them, and the generations behind them have lots to learn from them.
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  Speaker 2: So I think you know we complain about the.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: You know these young kids, but at the end of the day, they know what they talk, right, the way they talk.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: It's clear that they they know what they're doing.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: They know that.
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  Speaker 2: You know they have to be open to change.
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  Speaker 2: They have to be open to, you know, whatever the world is going to hand them because, let's face it, there's lots of things coming out in the world today that we didn't have to deal with 20, 30 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I love this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for joining me today, debbie.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: This has been great.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited about the Boss Babes Summer and you know all the conversations we're gonna be having.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I am excited too, and thank you for inviting me.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I would love to share it with our audience.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: You know we put out a newsletter and let's get our babes, uh, involved with your babes, absolutely, I love it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Um, I will have all your information in the show notes so we can, you know, anyone listening can see those, and then they'll be able to contact you and, you know, maybe join one of your meetings, maybe tell us when you have your meetings.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I know that they're like September to June.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Is it once a month or twice a month?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: It's once a month on Wednesdays.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: It's over the lunch hour, so it goes typically 1130 to 130.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: And they are in Calgary.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: We don't have a membership, so anyone can come.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 28:38
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• 28:47
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• 28:53
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• 28:58
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• 29:05
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• 29:18
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• 29:30
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• 29:36
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