Latest / The Skol Hop / Evan wins at everything, Austin suffers the consequences, Vikings Free Agency Lull | TSH Ep. 132
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the School hob. I'm Evan and I'm Austin and
- 0:06Speaker 1: we're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
- 0:08Speaker 1: drinking beer and talking about the Vikings.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Yes, the Vikings. And if you want to find out
- 0:13Speaker 2: why I'm wearing this Bears jersey, you might just have
- 0:17Speaker 2: to pay attention to the rest of the episode.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Yeah, we played a game I won, and that's why
- 0:23Speaker 1: you're wearing it.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Well, uh, wait to give that away, but we also
- 0:28Speaker 2: checked out our March Madness brackets that we've been competing
- 0:31Speaker 2: against each other with, so.
- 0:33Speaker 1: And I'm ahead in that race too, but that one's
- 0:36Speaker 1: a whole lot closer. We'll find out next week how
- 0:39Speaker 1: that turned out.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Yep, everything's coming up, Evan. But of course we did
- 0:43Speaker 2: also spend a lot of the episode talking about some
- 0:46Speaker 2: Vikings predictions for the rest of the offseason, which I
- 0:50Speaker 2: think there's some some good talkers there.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Yeah, So, wherever you are, grab a cold one, join
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- 3:00Speaker 1: you brought.
- 3:01Speaker 2: To Yeah, so it was my turn to bring the beer. Tonight,
- 3:04Speaker 2: we are having a single Speed beer. I feel like
- 3:07Speaker 2: we've been doing a lot of Big Grove and single
- 3:09Speaker 2: Speed and I'm not upset about it. Tonight is a
- 3:12Speaker 2: beer that, if not for the show, I would probably
- 3:15Speaker 2: never have reached for and grabbed. But I also have
- 3:19Speaker 2: never had this one. So when you do an Iowa
- 3:22Speaker 2: beer podcast, you got to branch out every once in
- 3:25Speaker 2: a while. So this one is called Zach's Mexican Donuts.
- 3:30Speaker 2: It says it's a spiced oatmeal stout. The can is
- 3:33Speaker 2: very fun with pops of color and a giant doughnut
- 3:37Speaker 2: on the can. I have never had this one, Evan,
- 3:40Speaker 2: have you ever had it?
- 3:41Speaker 1: I have not had this one either, But I mean
- 3:43Speaker 1: we both went to college in that particular town. We're
- 3:48Speaker 1: very familiar with the brewery. We went there on the
- 3:50Speaker 1: last brew hot. Yeah, I feel like this is one
- 3:52Speaker 1: of their staples. It's about time we give it a dry.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Yeah. On the can, it says, flavor upon flavor upon flavor, delicately,
- 4:00Speaker 2: delicately layered into aluminum. Locally roasted coffee from Sidecar Coffee Roasters,
- 4:07Speaker 2: Ecuadorian cacao, nibs, vanilla bean, and a spice blend transform
- 4:12Speaker 2: this standard take on the stout style into a full blown,
- 4:16Speaker 2: life altering experience a single speed Dia delos Werto's traditionon. So,
- 4:23Speaker 2: sorry for offending everybody with my terrible You're good at Spanish. Yeah,
- 4:29Speaker 2: I'm excited to give this one a try. I do
- 4:33Speaker 2: like stouts, but this one, this one seems very very unique.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Going for the Austin poor yeah.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Too, man, you got to give it a nice hard poor.
- 4:44Speaker 2: I can already tell it's a it's a darker color beer.
- 4:47Speaker 2: But if you know anything about beer and dark looking beers,
- 4:51Speaker 2: they don't always have to be like thick, heavy beers
- 4:55Speaker 2: like I would say, even a Guinness, which is known
- 4:57Speaker 2: for being like a really dark beer, it's not super thick,
- 5:00Speaker 2: and this one's kind of given me a little bit
- 5:03Speaker 2: of Guinness vibes to it.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Just did like the color. You can smell the coffee though, Yeah, yeah,
- 5:08Speaker 1: I mean.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Which guiness doesn't have the coffee noess?
- 5:10Speaker 1: But waft the coffee vibes over you and sidecar coffee
- 5:14Speaker 1: Sidecar and single Speed they kind of emerged as small
- 5:18Speaker 1: town businesses at about the same time. Yeah, and both
- 5:21Speaker 1: have done fairly well in that market and I love
- 5:24Speaker 1: both of them. So all right, you ready to do this.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Let's let's dive on in Zach's Mexican Donuts.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Let's go school. A lot of coffee vibes, for sure.
- 5:42Speaker 1: A lot of coffee vibes isn't bad, very good head retention.
- 5:46Speaker 1: I'll probably still have foam and my mustache there. It
- 5:49Speaker 1: was coffee and sweetness, but not like an overly like
- 5:55Speaker 1: like when you hear the word donut in a beer
- 5:56Speaker 1: you think like, oh, this is gonna be sweet, maybe
- 5:59Speaker 1: even like but I would say it's sweet in a
- 6:02Speaker 1: really pleasant way. Yeah, it's tough to put my finger
- 6:05Speaker 1: on the sweetness. It must be the cacao nibs. Yeah,
- 6:08Speaker 1: that could be it. Like, I think that's maybe where
- 6:11Speaker 1: the sweetness is coming from. And I'll be honest with you,
- 6:13Speaker 1: I'm kind of weird, and I think you know this
- 6:16Speaker 1: about me. I love coffee, but I'm not the biggest
- 6:19Speaker 1: chocolate fan, Like, chocolate has never been the flavor of
- 6:22Speaker 1: choice for me. Give me vanilla ice cream, vanilla cake,
- 6:26Speaker 1: vanilla frosting. Like I'm just a white boy through and through.
- 6:30Speaker 1: I guess, but I don't know. This is This is good.
- 6:34Speaker 1: It's it's sweet, it's flavorful, but the coffee kind of
- 6:37Speaker 1: balances it out with kind of the bitterness of the coffee.
- 6:41Speaker 1: And I don't know, like what kind of hops they've
- 6:43Speaker 1: got in it. It says they've got vanilla bean and
- 6:45Speaker 1: some spice blend going on in there too. It's good
- 6:50Speaker 1: and balanced. It's not like their tip the cow, yeah,
- 6:54Speaker 1: which is like that's like coffee like boom in your face.
- 6:59Speaker 1: This isn't that. It's it's a little bit more of
- 7:01Speaker 1: a mellowed down coffee beer. It's definitely. I would even
- 7:05Speaker 1: go a step further. Instead of a spiced oatmeal stout,
- 7:08Speaker 1: I would call it a coffee stout because it's it's
- 7:11Speaker 1: it's that for sure, it's tough to get away from
- 7:14Speaker 1: the coffee flavor, but it's really good.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Yeah. It kind of reminds me of I kind of
- 7:19Speaker 2: think of like a nice coffee with a little bit
- 7:22Speaker 2: of cream and just a hint of sugar. And that's
- 7:24Speaker 2: kind of the flavor I'm getting from this five point
- 7:28Speaker 2: six percent. Have you this solid coffee beer? I really
- 7:34Speaker 2: like this one. I like it more than I thought
- 7:35Speaker 2: I would as a little hesitant, but yeah, I think
- 7:38Speaker 2: it definitely works for me. I will have no problem
- 7:41Speaker 2: having this more tonight and then plenty of times again
- 7:44Speaker 2: in the future.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Sweet Good Beer.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks single Sweet.
- 7:48Speaker 1: So we've been trying to come up with some creative
- 7:51Speaker 1: ways to fill our time.
- 7:53Speaker 2: On the off season, and the Vikings have not done
- 7:55Speaker 2: a ton So we got something.
- 7:57Speaker 1: We're gonna get to our March Madness brack update, our
- 8:01Speaker 1: final one before the national Championship. By the next recording,
- 8:06Speaker 1: we will know who the national champion is. We'll get
- 8:09Speaker 1: to that March Madness bracket here in a little bit,
- 8:12Speaker 1: and then of course we'll get to talking about the Vikings.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Of course we're gonna spend a bulk of our time
- 8:18Speaker 1: doing that. But we've played a few games recently and
- 8:21Speaker 1: I thought it would be fun to play a game
- 8:24Speaker 1: from our past, a game that we played when we
- 8:27Speaker 1: were kids. Yeah, you introduced me to this game and
- 8:31Speaker 1: I remember playing it on camping trips with you and
- 8:35Speaker 1: your family, yea, and having a lot of fun with it.
- 8:37Speaker 1: So let's play some bs.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Nice all right. Well, you had to like re teach
- 8:41Speaker 2: me how to play this game really quick. It's been
- 8:43Speaker 2: many years since I've played. This is pretty simple, Yeah,
- 8:46Speaker 2: super Simplena.
- 8:47Speaker 1: We're gonna set up a camera here. I gotta turn
- 8:50Speaker 1: that on quick, and we'll make sure that it's going here.
- 8:56Speaker 1: But we we're gonna raise the stakes here a little
- 8:59Speaker 1: bit too, aren't we.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, So we've been doing a little We've
- 9:04Speaker 2: had a couple of malort bets on the show somewhat recently,
- 9:08Speaker 2: and we decided, you know, loser of this game is
- 9:10Speaker 2: probably just gonna have to take a shot of Alert.
- 9:13Speaker 2: And then I kinda I added a little bit of
- 9:16Speaker 2: a a little bit more spice to it, and you
- 9:19Speaker 2: you agreed with me. I said, what if we did
- 9:22Speaker 2: a loser did a shot of Alert? And then, to
- 9:25Speaker 2: keep with Chicago vibes, we still have this jersey from
- 9:29Speaker 2: the Bears for our Purple Punishment segment during the football season,
- 9:33Speaker 2: I said, what if we did loser took a shot
- 9:36Speaker 2: took a shot of Alert? And has to wear this.
- 9:38Speaker 2: This bears jersey the rest of the episode.
- 9:40Speaker 1: So I'm game.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna raise the stakes a little bit,
- 9:44Speaker 2: and uh yeah, hopefully hopefully this is fun. I'm excited.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Well, there's your deck. So we split the deck in two.
- 9:52Speaker 1: If you play with more people, you just basically evenly
- 9:54Speaker 1: divide the deck amongst the number of people you have.
- 9:57Speaker 1: And the goal here is we'll start with two, and
- 10:00Speaker 1: we'll work our way up to ACE, and we'll just
- 10:01Speaker 1: keep going around two, three, four, five, so.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Two is lowest, and then we finish with ace. Yep,
- 10:06Speaker 2: got it.
- 10:08Speaker 1: And then basically what you're trying to do is you're
- 10:11Speaker 1: trying to lay cards face down and you're telling me
- 10:14Speaker 1: either a truth or a lie. I have two two's, yep.
- 10:18Speaker 1: And if you put down two cards, I'm gonna either
- 10:21Speaker 1: say that's true, you have two two's, And then I'm
- 10:25Speaker 1: gonna move on to three and play as many threes
- 10:27Speaker 1: as I either have actually or can convince you that
- 10:31Speaker 1: I have, or I can call BS. If I call
- 10:34Speaker 1: BS and we flip the cards over and it's not
- 10:38Speaker 1: two two's, then you take them.
- 10:40Speaker 2: If I flip the whole pile.
- 10:42Speaker 1: You take the whole pile, everything that's on the pile.
- 10:45Speaker 1: If if i'm if I call BS and I'm wrong,
- 10:50Speaker 1: then I have to take the nice Okay, okay, so
- 10:52Speaker 1: you are. I see you're arranging your deck. I'm gonna
- 10:55Speaker 1: do the same thing here.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it is nice to have your cards in somewhat
- 10:59Speaker 2: order that we can tell.
- 11:00Speaker 1: How long has it been since you've played this.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Man, it has probably been since those childhood camping trips.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Since I've played this last It's been quite a while.
- 11:10Speaker 2: But that's okay. It's a simple enough game. And even
- 11:12Speaker 2: if listeners you didn't quite understand it with that explanation,
- 11:15Speaker 2: which was very good. But even if you for some
- 11:18Speaker 2: reason you still didn't understand it, you will once we
- 11:21Speaker 2: get playing here a nice caveat. I believe our camera
- 11:25Speaker 2: angle is such that Evan, the camera you set up
- 11:30Speaker 2: will be able to see each of our cards.
- 11:33Speaker 1: That's the goal.
- 11:34Speaker 2: If I did it right, we shouldn't be able to
- 11:36Speaker 2: see each other.
- 11:37Speaker 1: We cannot see each other's cards, so we're not gonna
- 11:39Speaker 1: know if the other is lying or not, or at
- 11:44Speaker 1: least that's again that's the goal.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Yep, yep, So maybe maybe we can do our little
- 11:50Speaker 2: speed up thing while you while.
- 11:52Speaker 1: You, I'm almost their cards almost, but yeah, we can.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Speak this up.
- 11:58Speaker 1: All right.
- 11:59Speaker 2: We're gonna be good enough. All right, all right, you start,
- 12:04Speaker 2: you want me to start? You start, all right, We're
- 12:06Speaker 2: going aces are the highest, right, so you start with two's,
- 12:10Speaker 2: all right? Two two's? I got two threes. Oh man,
- 12:20Speaker 2: we'll keep it going two fours.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Let's go with two fives.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Hmmm maybe uh maybe one six. You know, I'm seeing
- 12:33Speaker 2: a flaw in this seven?
- 12:35Speaker 1: What's that?
- 12:36Speaker 2: Because this is a full deck? Correct?
- 12:38Speaker 1: It is?
- 12:39Speaker 2: Okay, this first round there might not be a lot
- 12:42Speaker 2: of bs.
- 12:42Speaker 1: And well we'll see one seven, oh.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Man, all right, we will go We'll go one eight,
- 13:01Speaker 2: three nines, oh man, I don't know about that. We'll
- 13:10Speaker 2: go three tens m hmmy.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Two jacks, two queens, like counting cards here at the
- 13:32Speaker 1: black blackjack table. Two kings.
- 13:38Speaker 2: One ace m.
- 13:45Speaker 1: One two.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, two threes?
- 13:55Speaker 1: Yes, are you sure? I called it?
- 13:59Speaker 3: God?
- 14:02Speaker 2: Okay, So that was devastating.
- 14:04Speaker 1: That was terrible. That's alright. What number are we on?
- 14:07Speaker 2: Four fours are next?
- 14:09Speaker 1: All right? Well, I got plenty of things to work
- 14:14Speaker 1: with here.
- 14:15Speaker 4: Four fours, man, we'll go one five, four six is.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Two seven's Okay, I guess I have to believe you, uh.
- 14:47Speaker 2: Three eighths man, all right, we'll go one nine.
- 14:57Speaker 1: That's bs. Get up.
- 15:00Speaker 2: I knew as soon as soon as you had one
- 15:03Speaker 2: that you had all four for sure.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Well, what's making it challenging and the viewer at home
- 15:08Speaker 1: might be able to get a glimpse of my cards
- 15:10Speaker 1: is they're all spread out and there's no organization to them.
- 15:14Speaker 1: All right, that was nine correct? Alright? One ten?
- 15:21Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'll believe that. One two jacks, four queens. Okay, okay,
- 15:41Speaker 2: we will go two kings, three aces.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Back to two, back to two, and we could maybe
- 15:56Speaker 1: put a time limit on it, like whoever's got the
- 15:59Speaker 1: most cards loses after a couple of minutes.
- 16:04Speaker 2: All right, we'll go two two's.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. I'm just in the business of getting rid
- 16:16Speaker 1: of cards. Four threes. All right, we'll go I can
- 16:28Speaker 1: finally see them all in one.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm running into the same.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Problem you were running into.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Hold on here, we'll go four fours, three fives, and
- 16:52Speaker 2: we'll go four six's.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Two sevens. I think I'm starting to see another flaw
- 17:12Speaker 1: with a two player version of the four eight's, four nines,
- 17:22Speaker 1: one ten, two jacks, one Queen, two kings, one ace,
- 17:38Speaker 1: two two's bs.
- 17:42Speaker 2: Oh man, I thought the four twos were already there.
- 17:44Speaker 2: All right, you know what, Evan, I'm gonna concede because
- 17:47Speaker 2: there's no way.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Well I was gonna have to play something BS because
- 17:52Speaker 1: I had two ten's.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Yeah after that, all right, Well, I don't know how
- 17:55Speaker 2: that translated, but maybe this will pay it off. Evan.
- 17:58Speaker 2: I guess I'm to a shot of alert and I
- 18:01Speaker 2: hate that. I think for the second time on this show.
- 18:05Speaker 1: You gotta wear that roast Bears jersey. We'll put them
- 18:11Speaker 1: alert in these uh in this top cup? Oh man?
- 18:14Speaker 2: All right, we'll show the camera to to make sure.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Or should I make you? Should I make you drink
- 18:19Speaker 1: it out of Do we have a Bears one? We
- 18:21Speaker 1: have a Bears one of these? Don't more dead space?
- 18:28Speaker 1: Hang on? All right, we're back. You have a Bear's cup,
- 18:43Speaker 1: you have a Bears jersey. It's time for a shot,
- 18:47Speaker 1: all right.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Remember these are they're probably like twenty something else cups.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna fill it up.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I will not be drinking that, I will. You
- 18:57Speaker 2: gotta drive yeah, oh man, that that even I know
- 19:02Speaker 2: it was reasonable, but that was sounded like a lot.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Am I going to be able to show the camera
- 19:07Speaker 2: without spilling this probably.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Not very easily. There's a decent amount in there, and
- 19:14Speaker 1: it's not like you did a double so school school.
- 19:26Speaker 1: You actually like melort, though.
- 19:30Speaker 2: I would say I don't hate it as much as
- 19:32Speaker 2: everybody else does. That was a two gulper though. That
- 19:36Speaker 2: was that was a healthy shot there, that that that
- 19:40Speaker 2: was punishment enough for losing the game.
- 19:44Speaker 1: And now you got to wear that ugly Bears jersey
- 19:46Speaker 1: the rest of the game.
- 19:47Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
- 19:49Speaker 1: I came to realize in the middle of the game
- 19:51Speaker 1: that you know, if I start with two's, you go
- 19:55Speaker 1: threes the whole first round, I'm even your odd and
- 19:59Speaker 1: then it flip and then pretty soon like you had
- 20:03Speaker 1: all the evens and I had all the odds. That's
- 20:05Speaker 1: the way it was. Right before I won, I had
- 20:07Speaker 1: all the odd numbers, you had all the even numbers,
- 20:10Speaker 1: and then when it came around to two, I had
- 20:13Speaker 1: the two two's and that's when you called bs And
- 20:17Speaker 1: did you ever lie? I did a couple of times, Okay, yeap,
- 20:21Speaker 1: did you?
- 20:22Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely caught you on one line.
- 20:24Speaker 1: I caught me on the big one. Obviously I did.
- 20:26Speaker 1: I think I did at least one more.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Most of the time I lied. I lied a few
- 20:30Speaker 2: times at the end the last ones where I was
- 20:31Speaker 2: saying one whatever, but uh, about halfway through, most of
- 20:37Speaker 2: the time I was saying, like four fours. I would still,
- 20:40Speaker 2: I would have all four fours, but I'd only put
- 20:43Speaker 2: two of them down and then take two other cars.
- 20:46Speaker 1: And yeah, I did that. I did that early on
- 20:49Speaker 1: in the game. I think I had like eights or
- 20:50Speaker 1: nine and it was my turn to play. I think
- 20:53Speaker 1: it was my turn to play eights, and I played
- 20:55Speaker 1: two eight's and one nine. So I said three nines
- 20:59Speaker 1: and two of them where eight's one of them was not.
- 21:02Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, all right, well I paid the price.
- 21:05Speaker 2: I'm still paying it that my lord is still.
- 21:09Speaker 4: Man.
- 21:10Speaker 2: That's still sitting there a little bit, but you know
- 21:13Speaker 2: what else is sitting there. Of our tournament Challenge brackets.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Listeners may remember from the last few weeks, I filled
- 21:21Speaker 2: out my first bracket in a long time on this
- 21:26Speaker 2: show live on the show, and then I don't know
- 21:29Speaker 2: if I told you, actually filled one out for work
- 21:31Speaker 2: and it looks like you looks like I'm gonna win
- 21:33Speaker 2: the Really, Yeah, we didn't have literally any There's there's
- 21:37Speaker 2: no prize for winning. They were pretty adamant. There was
- 21:41Speaker 2: a whole, you know, organization wide email I can't do
- 21:45Speaker 2: this that talked about gambling and how it's not allowed.
- 21:50Speaker 2: It's definitely with a certain section of our organization, for sure.
- 21:57Speaker 2: And then the rules are a little bit like with
- 22:00Speaker 2: the other section of our organization, but still pretty tight.
- 22:03Speaker 2: So there is no winnings for what I will end
- 22:06Speaker 2: up winning with my group at work. But other than pride,
- 22:09Speaker 2: maybe somebody joked about putting a little trophy together. Actually
- 22:12Speaker 2: front of the show, Tim joked about putting a little
- 22:15Speaker 2: basketball trophy together. But we'll see. I think the pride
- 22:19Speaker 2: is worth it enough. But I think Evan, it's still close.
- 22:23Speaker 2: I could win our school hot bracket. But I mean,
- 22:26Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear right now you're gonna end
- 22:28Speaker 2: up winning this one.
- 22:29Speaker 1: Yeah, So according to the group of forecast here, I
- 22:33Speaker 1: have a sixty seven percent chance to win. You have
- 22:35Speaker 1: a thirty three percent chance. You are not like totally
- 22:38Speaker 1: out of it. And I think if Michigan wins their
- 22:43Speaker 1: final four game and makes it to the national championship.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Excuse me, I really think you all beat me. You
- 22:51Speaker 1: have a max possibility of eleven hundred and twenty points.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I can only get nine hundred.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, the saving grace, like you said, is
- 23:00Speaker 2: that I still have my national champion pick still in
- 23:04Speaker 2: there in Michigan, and your national champion pick not only
- 23:07Speaker 2: is no longer in there, lost in I believe the
- 23:09Speaker 2: first round, which really cut your potential for a lot
- 23:12Speaker 2: of points.
- 23:12Speaker 1: It killed me. So ESPN says, best path for me
- 23:16Speaker 1: to win is for Michigan to not win at all.
- 23:19Speaker 1: The best path for you to win is Michigan to
- 23:21Speaker 1: win it all. So that's kind of where we're at
- 23:23Speaker 1: right now. Still anybody's game really like I like my
- 23:29Speaker 1: chances obviously because I'm ahead, But you never know, and
- 23:33Speaker 1: crazier things have happened in this tournament.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Absolutely, who knows. Maybe in the future. This is kind
- 23:38Speaker 2: of the first we've as the school hop ever dabbled
- 23:41Speaker 2: together in this. But in the future, maybe next year,
- 23:45Speaker 2: if if we get a few listeners, maybe we can
- 23:48Speaker 2: have a small skull hot bracket challenge and then maybe
- 23:53Speaker 2: we can put together some swag for the potential winner
- 23:58Speaker 2: or the highest scoring n hosts of the show. I
- 24:02Speaker 2: think that's something we could easily put together.
- 24:04Speaker 1: We could definitely do that. Yeah, if you're interested in that,
- 24:06Speaker 1: drop a comment and below and just let us know
- 24:08Speaker 1: you'd be willing to play with us. That's definitely something
- 24:11Speaker 1: we can put together.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Probably something you know, obviously no fee or anything, and
- 24:14Speaker 2: the winning would be like maybe a mug or a
- 24:17Speaker 2: T shirt or something of school hot but something you know,
- 24:20Speaker 2: it'd be a nice little little package from us. So yeah,
- 24:24Speaker 2: I think we could do that.
- 24:25Speaker 1: Well, we will definitely update you next week because by
- 24:30Speaker 1: this point next week the national Championship will have been
- 24:32Speaker 1: decided and we'll know who won. The Bracket Challenge my
- 24:37Speaker 1: work bracket, by the way I started it. I've done
- 24:40Speaker 1: it for the last two years now for my school.
- 24:43Speaker 1: I teach at a high school, and I just put
- 24:45Speaker 1: it out to my whole staff. I usually get twenty
- 24:48Speaker 1: or so people to play out of a staff of
- 24:51Speaker 1: like one hundred and Yeah, North Carolina going down in
- 24:56Speaker 1: the first round really tanked my chances.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:00Speaker 1: People I work with picked Michigan interestingly enough, and they
- 25:03Speaker 1: were right. So that's been interesting. I also work with
- 25:06Speaker 1: a lot of really obnoxious Illinois fans who made sure
- 25:10Speaker 1: to wear their Illinois stuff to work today.
- 25:13Speaker 2: I mean, you get those bragging rights. It does suck,
- 25:16Speaker 2: But I think I mentioned on the last episode I've
- 25:19Speaker 2: I've watched more Iowa basketball in the last couple of
- 25:22Speaker 2: weeks than I probably have ever watched in my entire life.
- 25:26Speaker 2: I became a real, die hard bandwagon Iowa basketball fan.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Of course I love Iowa football, but you know, it
- 25:34Speaker 2: was fun to I just turned on the first Clemson
- 25:37Speaker 2: Iowa Clemson game just because you know it's a tournament,
- 25:40Speaker 2: You're gonna check it out a little bit. But then
- 25:41Speaker 2: once they started winning, you know, I have no problem
- 25:44Speaker 2: saying it was bandwagon, but it was fun to watch.
- 25:46Speaker 2: My kids finally started getting into it. So it was
- 25:49Speaker 2: a little bit of a bummer that Iowa basketball lost
- 25:53Speaker 2: to Illinois. But to make it to the Elite eight
- 25:56Speaker 2: is pretty awesome. And I mean that game Illino I
- 26:00Speaker 2: did did really well and they they dominated for most
- 26:04Speaker 2: of the game, but Iowa was in it in their
- 26:06Speaker 2: own right a little bit, but no question about it.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Good job Illinois and your Illinois fans. They will never
- 26:11Speaker 2: hold a candle to the awful Lions fans, who are
- 26:14Speaker 2: the worst fans in all of sports. So yeah, I
- 26:19Speaker 2: can respect the Illinois fans. And like I said, you know,
- 26:22Speaker 2: if your your team wins, you get a little bit
- 26:24Speaker 2: of bragging rights, and that's okay. You can do that
- 26:27Speaker 2: respectfully and have fun with it. That's that's what sports
- 26:29Speaker 2: are for.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Yep, for sure. Well it's high time that we talk
- 26:34Speaker 1: about the vikings. Yeah, for a little bit. Well, like
- 26:36Speaker 1: I said, we'll update everybody on the bracket next week.
- 26:40Speaker 2: Can can I throw a curveball in this a little bit?
- 26:43Speaker 2: All right? So we'll get to the vikings here in
- 26:46Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. But I do want to talk
- 26:47Speaker 2: about an experience I had over the weekend.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Oh I saw a picture of this, But I haven't
- 26:52Speaker 1: talked to you about this.
- 26:53Speaker 2: So we've we've mentioned his name a few times before,
- 26:56Speaker 2: but Front of the Show Brian and I has done
- 27:00Speaker 2: has shown a lot a lot of support for the
- 27:03Speaker 2: skull Hop over the years, So he is the definition
- 27:06Speaker 2: of friend of the show, Brian. But he and I
- 27:10Speaker 2: we went together and we took a little trip down
- 27:13Speaker 2: to Saint Louis and we watched he he's an opener. Yeah. Uh,
- 27:17Speaker 2: the season opening game where the battle Hawks of the
- 27:22Speaker 2: UFL took on and beat the DC Defenders, and it
- 27:27Speaker 2: was awesome. A lot of people will tell you the
- 27:30Speaker 2: best part of the game was dang it, I'm I
- 27:34Speaker 2: the halftime show, and I get the artists wrong every
- 27:36Speaker 2: time I mention it, it's I want to say Nelly.
- 27:41Speaker 2: And what I get wrong all the time is I
- 27:43Speaker 2: want to say r Kelly. But that's that's not right.
- 27:46Speaker 1: So Nelly's a Saint Louis guy.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that makes complete sense. Nelly was the halftime
- 27:51Speaker 2: show at this inaugural well season opening game for the
- 27:56Speaker 2: BattleHawks this year. I saw a little bit of his
- 28:01Speaker 2: show and then quickly went to the beer line. But
- 28:05Speaker 2: lots of people loved it, and the game itself was
- 28:07Speaker 2: a lot of fun. I got to witness the first
- 28:11Speaker 2: ever four point field goal in professional football. Unfortunately it
- 28:15Speaker 2: was made by the enemy DC Defenders, but it was
- 28:20Speaker 2: still cool to say, like, hey, I watched it.
- 28:22Speaker 1: I was.
- 28:22Speaker 2: I was there in person for the first ever four
- 28:24Speaker 2: point field goal. If you're not familiar the UFL Spring
- 28:28Speaker 2: League football, they made an rule change for this year
- 28:33Speaker 2: that any field goal sixty yards or longer is now
- 28:37Speaker 2: worth four points, which I think is pretty cool.
- 28:39Speaker 1: I like a lot and it's a it maritizes kickers, right,
- 28:46Speaker 1: Yeah is that a word?
- 28:48Speaker 2: Is that a verb? But I think I know what
- 28:49Speaker 2: you're trying to say.
- 28:50Speaker 1: It gives them, gives merit to being able to kick really,
- 28:54Speaker 1: really far, which is cool.
- 28:56Speaker 2: And that field goal, it was right at a sixty yarder,
- 29:00Speaker 2: not like a sixty five. But I mean, shoot, no
- 29:02Speaker 2: field goal is ever guaranteed, especially when you're talking about
- 29:05Speaker 2: you know, spring league football. So it was impressive to see.
- 29:08Speaker 2: And it's not like it barely banked in. It was
- 29:11Speaker 2: a full fledged sixty yard field goal. That was no
- 29:13Speaker 2: question it was made. But it definitely changes the game,
- 29:18Speaker 2: especially when also in the in the UFL, they don't
- 29:22Speaker 2: have the traditional extra point you're not kicking one, you know,
- 29:26Speaker 2: thirty yard field goal for an extra point, which anymore, Yeah,
- 29:29Speaker 2: they miss sometimes, but in the NFL that's that's not
- 29:33Speaker 2: a guarantee. So it definitely made this game with the
- 29:38Speaker 2: BattleHawks a little interesting score wise because the defenders seem
- 29:43Speaker 2: to have an upper hand score wise. No matter what
- 29:46Speaker 2: for about most of the game the battle Hawks did
- 29:49Speaker 2: end up winning. It was a ton of fun and
- 29:51Speaker 2: you mentioned the arch. Our hotel room was it had
- 29:57Speaker 2: a wonderful view of the arch the picture. It was
- 30:01Speaker 2: a lot of fun. But yeah, we got home. And
- 30:05Speaker 2: that day we got home, Brian textan. He was like,
- 30:08Speaker 2: I want to go to another BattleHawks game. So there's
- 30:11Speaker 2: a non zero percent chance that I'll be going to
- 30:13Speaker 2: another BattleHawks game this season, but maybe I can join you. Hey,
- 30:16Speaker 2: let's do it, because it was a ton of fun.
- 30:19Speaker 1: That would be fun.
- 30:19Speaker 2: And nobody loves their UFL football, or really their football
- 30:23Speaker 2: more than Saint Louis football fans. They're still feeling slighted
- 30:28Speaker 2: by the Rams, and the BattleHawks have consistently been the
- 30:32Speaker 2: most positively attended team in the UFL or XFL or
- 30:38Speaker 2: whatever league they're They're a part of that year and
- 30:41Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun. The atmosphere is a lot
- 30:42Speaker 2: of fun. So I would have felt wrong being on
- 30:46Speaker 2: a football podcast not talking about my experience at you know,
- 30:50Speaker 2: a current in season football team. And I've joked about
- 30:53Speaker 2: it before. We are also BattleHawks fans, and by we
- 30:56Speaker 2: definitely mean me, but maybe we'll get you in doctor
- 30:59Speaker 2: NATed a little bit.
- 31:00Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to pick a team right now,
- 31:02Speaker 1: i'd pick them because I don't really I don't think
- 31:04Speaker 1: I could name any of the other teams other than
- 31:06Speaker 1: d C, which you just referenced.
- 31:07Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and there's a few former Vikings kind of
- 31:11Speaker 2: sprinkled throughout the league. I don't think there's I think
- 31:14Speaker 2: there might be one former Viking on the BattleHawks, an
- 31:17Speaker 2: offensive lineman, I'm thinking, but I don't really know for sure.
- 31:21Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, I know guys like Lucky Jackson
- 31:24Speaker 2: is in the UFL. Cam Dantzler senior, junior, whatever he
- 31:28Speaker 2: puts on his jersey is in the UFL. I think
- 31:31Speaker 2: you just looked up some names there.
- 31:33Speaker 1: We were seen as with d C.
- 31:34Speaker 2: Interesting. I did not know that. I just saw a
- 31:36Speaker 2: DC defender's game. I didn't even think to look for.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Jaron Hall with Birmingham ooh, okay, okay. Jordan Taamu is
- 31:45Speaker 1: with d C.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Tayamu is also a former battle Hawk, but I think
- 31:50Speaker 2: his Vikings affiliation was like one preseason game. But yeah,
- 31:55Speaker 2: he's he's been in the UFL for a while. Tayshawn
- 31:57Speaker 2: Bauer okay, defensive end. Uh, He's played with various teams
- 32:02Speaker 2: according to Gemini, which we we all know, how accurate
- 32:07Speaker 2: Jemini can be. Yeah, but yeah, it's there. If you're
- 32:10Speaker 2: a Vikings fan and you're vaguely interested in the UFL,
- 32:14Speaker 2: there's definitely some names in the league that that you
- 32:18Speaker 2: can look at and be like, oh, I remember that guy,
- 32:20Speaker 2: and and then you never know, there could be guys
- 32:22Speaker 2: like Jalen Redmond that are in the UFL and then
- 32:26Speaker 2: they break into the NFL and make a name, make
- 32:30Speaker 2: a name for themselves. So it's fun football, It's uh,
- 32:34Speaker 2: it's it's exciting. It's kind of like going to the hometown,
- 32:37Speaker 2: you know, hockey team and just being entertained by the fights.
- 32:41Speaker 2: But like it's still it's legitimately fun football, and the
- 32:44Speaker 2: quality is not quite NFL level overall, but I I
- 32:47Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoy it, and uh, it would be great to
- 32:50Speaker 2: have a lot more support for the UFL.
- 32:52Speaker 1: Do they play in the same domed stadium that the
- 32:56Speaker 1: Rams did when they were in Saint Louis.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's gone by a few different names. Currently,
- 33:01Speaker 2: it's the Dome at America's Center, and when you're there,
- 33:06Speaker 2: the the the theatrics of the stadium, they call it
- 33:10Speaker 2: like the Battle Dome and they do a really good
- 33:13Speaker 2: job Saint Louis does, at least for the battle Hawks.
- 33:16Speaker 2: They really show up for the battle Hawks. The door prize,
- 33:21Speaker 2: I guess you would call it the giveaway for the
- 33:23Speaker 2: first however, many fans was a T shirt, which is
- 33:27Speaker 2: pretty cool, just a blue T shirt that said battle
- 33:29Speaker 2: Hawks on it and yeah, did you get one?
- 33:31Speaker 4: I did?
- 33:31Speaker 2: I did, Brian and I both got one.
- 33:33Speaker 1: It was I expect you to wear that on an
- 33:35Speaker 1: upcoming out.
- 33:35Speaker 2: I'm kind of disappointed. I didn't think to wear it tonight,
- 33:38Speaker 2: you know, when I was going to talk about it.
- 33:39Speaker 2: But if I do go to another game, I'll wear
- 33:42Speaker 2: that appropriate. I also have a fake Chinese knockoff battle
- 33:46Speaker 2: Hawks jersey, of course, which I wore at the game.
- 33:50Speaker 2: It was a good time. Maybe we should try to
- 33:52Speaker 2: make a school hot trip down there and do a
- 33:54Speaker 2: little bit of content.
- 33:55Speaker 1: That'd be fun. I think that would be enjoyable for sure.
- 33:58Speaker 1: All Right, we've got to talk about the Vikings. We
- 34:01Speaker 1: pushed this off too long. We have it. We are
- 34:04Speaker 1: a Vikings podcast, and we had some fun and you
- 34:08Speaker 1: had some fun in Saint Louis. All good things, all
- 34:11Speaker 1: good things, but we are kind of in that weird
- 34:15Speaker 1: lull between kind of that like that really really spicy
- 34:19Speaker 1: week of free agency where everything happens and the draft,
- 34:22Speaker 1: like free agency moves could still happen, but a lot
- 34:27Speaker 1: of that news has dried up.
- 34:28Speaker 2: And yeah, we're in like the fourth round of free
- 34:31Speaker 2: agency now, you know, not that there's official rounds, but
- 34:35Speaker 2: the official wave.
- 34:36Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got guys like Kirk Cousins out there
- 34:39Speaker 1: who are still looking for the best fit.
- 34:42Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned him, and we don't
- 34:44Speaker 2: need to make this a ten minute topic here, but
- 34:46Speaker 2: I did see a tweet from which I hate pointing
- 34:50Speaker 2: them out. Pro Football Talk is not a great site
- 34:54Speaker 2: or whatever, but they did have a tweet and apparently
- 34:57Speaker 2: an article about how apparently the Packers have discuss signing
- 35:01Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins as a backup for Jordan Love. Wouldn't that
- 35:03Speaker 2: be something I highly doubt Kirk Cousins would go there,
- 35:07Speaker 2: not because he wouldn't play for the Packers. I don't
- 35:11Speaker 2: think he has any you know, morality about that.
- 35:15Speaker 1: I think he'll play for anybody that's gonna pay him
- 35:18Speaker 1: money if he was giving it, you know, if it
- 35:20Speaker 1: was the right situation.
- 35:21Speaker 2: Anybody would play for the Packers. There are hated rivals,
- 35:24Speaker 2: but like it's not like they're made up of, you know,
- 35:27Speaker 2: horrible people. But I think there's still opportunities for Cousins
- 35:32Speaker 2: to start in the league, and I think he knows that,
- 35:35Speaker 2: and it's just about finding the right position, right situation
- 35:38Speaker 2: for him. But yeah, it would be interesting to see
- 35:41Speaker 2: him go where number eight for the for the Packers.
- 35:45Speaker 2: But yeah, like you said, free agency is kind of
- 35:47Speaker 2: slowing down and now we're looking definitely looking ahead towards
- 35:51Speaker 2: the draft.
- 35:52Speaker 1: So a friend of the show, Dustin Yeah with Viking's Territory,
- 35:56Speaker 1: has written an article that you so graciously brought to
- 36:01Speaker 1: the forefront.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Here.
- 36:02Speaker 1: You're really good at this. I'll be honest, like, I'm
- 36:06Speaker 1: in the middle of the busiest part of my life
- 36:07Speaker 1: right now with coaching and teaching and stuff, so I
- 36:10Speaker 1: don't have as much margin to pay attention. But when
- 36:13Speaker 1: you bring an article, it's just great because it's just like,
- 36:16Speaker 1: all right, I'll read this and then I'm more informed
- 36:19Speaker 1: and here we are we can talk about it.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Don't give me too much praise because all I do is,
- 36:24Speaker 2: you know, perus vikings Territory dot com. Usually there's at
- 36:28Speaker 2: least one article every week that it's like, hey, that
- 36:31Speaker 2: article would be a really good springboard for conversation or
- 36:35Speaker 2: for yeah, conversation on the podcast. So most of these
- 36:40Speaker 2: takes are just hey, Dustin Baker or whoever at Viking's
- 36:43Speaker 2: Territory has written the article. It's a good article. We'll
- 36:46Speaker 2: link it in the show notes. You guys should definitely
- 36:48Speaker 2: check it out. And the rest of vikings Territory dot com.
- 36:51Speaker 2: We have no official affiliation with them. We just really
- 36:53Speaker 2: enjoy their content. But also it's fun too on articles
- 36:58Speaker 2: like these where they're pretty much an opinion based maybe
- 37:01Speaker 2: there's a little bit of research behind it, but they'll
- 37:04Speaker 2: take the research and kind of create takes and then
- 37:09Speaker 2: we get to talk about it. So I cut you
- 37:11Speaker 2: off there, Evan, you were about to say that the
- 37:13Speaker 2: name of the article, well.
- 37:15Speaker 1: The name of the article is five predictions. As April
- 37:19Speaker 1: gets rolling, and as we've been sitting here and as
- 37:24Speaker 1: I've been looking at the title of the article and
- 37:27Speaker 1: thinking about what I'm going to say to talk about
- 37:29Speaker 1: the article, I've envisioned like you probably wouldn't know this
- 37:34Speaker 1: reference because you didn't really grow up watching Pardon the
- 37:39Speaker 1: interruption like I did.
- 37:41Speaker 2: I mean I've seen it. I mean it's been on
- 37:43Speaker 2: TV while I've been around. But I'm not like an
- 37:45Speaker 2: average avid ESPN watcher really like it's there, it's fine,
- 37:50Speaker 2: there's stuff is entertaining sometimes, but like it's yeah, I'm
- 37:56Speaker 2: not one that sits down every day and watches it all.
- 37:58Speaker 1: It's you know, your afternoon primetime sports talk show. It's
- 38:02Speaker 1: been around forever. I just remember coming home when I
- 38:05Speaker 1: was in high school, getting home from school, I didn't
- 38:08Speaker 1: want to do homework, so I'd turn on ESPN and
- 38:11Speaker 1: they would be on, and these two old guys would
- 38:14Speaker 1: be arguing back and forth about stuff, and Tony Kornheiser,
- 38:20Speaker 1: the white dude on the show, he would put on
- 38:24Speaker 1: this like swammy costume thing. He'd put on the like
- 38:29Speaker 1: and he'd get this crystal ball and they would they
- 38:32Speaker 1: would do this whole bit where he was predicting the future. Okay,
- 38:35Speaker 1: and so all of that to say, all of this
- 38:38Speaker 1: build up to say, that's how I've been envisioning Dustin
- 38:40Speaker 1: Baker for the last like five minutes. Because he gives
- 38:45Speaker 1: us five predictions in this article that he posted yesterday,
- 38:48Speaker 1: and one of them has already come true true. Yeah,
- 38:51Speaker 1: and so I have to I have to guess that
- 38:54Speaker 1: the third item in Dustin's list, which is that Jordan
- 38:58Speaker 1: Addison's fifth year option is locked in. It was a
- 39:01Speaker 1: prediction yesterday, it became fact today, and it was one
- 39:05Speaker 1: of the few headlines that I was able to quickly
- 39:07Speaker 1: look at throughout my busy day, and I think I
- 39:10Speaker 1: texted you and I was like, yeah, his extension was
- 39:12Speaker 1: locked in, wasn't it? And you were like yep, it was.
- 39:16Speaker 1: So here we are, you know, probably even less than
- 39:19Speaker 1: twenty four hours after Dustin published this article, and one
- 39:24Speaker 1: of the five things that he predicted, and he said
- 39:28Speaker 1: as much in the title of the article that these
- 39:30Speaker 1: are predictions, yeah, has come true. So Dustin Baker is
- 39:34Speaker 1: this magical future predicting now he's just really really smart
- 39:39Speaker 1: about football. Yeah, I trust a lot of what he
- 39:41Speaker 1: says because stuff like this happens.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Well, I think you brought up the perfect thing to
- 39:45Speaker 2: kind of enter this conversation in So obviously this was
- 39:49Speaker 2: one of the predictions that Dustin made in writing this article,
- 39:53Speaker 2: but it was more of an educated observation, not even
- 39:56Speaker 2: a guest.
- 39:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:57Speaker 2: So basically, and we won't do this for all of
- 40:00Speaker 2: the points but to kind of tell you what Dustin
- 40:03Speaker 2: said about Jordan Addison's fifth year option, which again I
- 40:07Speaker 2: don't know if it's officially been like optioned, but I
- 40:11Speaker 2: do know, like, what are what's going on right now
- 40:13Speaker 2: the owners meetings or something. There's there's a collection of
- 40:17Speaker 2: NFL meetings with coaches even and GM's present with media availability.
- 40:22Speaker 2: So I guess today the Vikings interim GM Robertsinski two
- 40:28Speaker 2: reporters basically said yes, we're going to to pick up
- 40:33Speaker 2: that fifth year option for Jordan Addison, which means twenty
- 40:37Speaker 2: twenty six is the fourth year of Jordan Addison's contract
- 40:43Speaker 2: with the Vikings. But as a first round pick. Every
- 40:47Speaker 2: NFL team who picks a player in the first round
- 40:49Speaker 2: gets that option of a fifth year, and right before
- 40:54Speaker 2: the fourth year starts is when the team needs to say, hey,
- 40:58Speaker 2: we're going to pick up that fifth year. Now, with
- 41:00Speaker 2: that fifth year option does come a bit of a
- 41:02Speaker 2: pay raise. It's almost like a mini franchise tag a
- 41:06Speaker 2: little bit, because it's I think it's upwards of I
- 41:10Speaker 2: don't think it's quite twenty million dollars, but it's like
- 41:13Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars. That basically the Vikings are saying, yet
- 41:16Speaker 2: we're guaranteeing for Jordan not this coming season, but the
- 41:20Speaker 2: following season. So yeah, right about now is the time
- 41:24Speaker 2: when teams start making announcements for their players that they
- 41:27Speaker 2: picked in the first round what three full seasons ago,
- 41:33Speaker 2: and right now that includes Jordan Adison. So again, Dustin
- 41:37Speaker 2: kind of made this observation when he saw, I mean,
- 41:41Speaker 2: the Vikings obviously let Jalen Naylor leave in free agents,
- 41:44Speaker 2: a free agency when they probably could have had the
- 41:48Speaker 2: opportunity to negotiate a little bit more. I'm sure Naylor's
- 41:53Speaker 2: representatives kind of got this offer from the Raiders for
- 41:57Speaker 2: what thirty five Yeah, what's it say, thirty five million
- 42:00Speaker 2: over the next three years, and maybe came back to
- 42:02Speaker 2: the Vikings and said, hey, this is what we got.
- 42:04Speaker 2: What do you think And the Vikings obviously, you know,
- 42:07Speaker 2: didn't go for that. And then Dustin points out the
- 42:11Speaker 2: Vikings didn't do anything else for wide receivers, like the
- 42:13Speaker 2: Vikings made no moves at the wide receiver position whatsoever
- 42:17Speaker 2: since the end of the season. So obviously, if that's
- 42:20Speaker 2: the case, you're gonna make sure your number two receiver
- 42:24Speaker 2: is with the team as long as you can control him.
- 42:28Speaker 2: So yeah, those are just observations. It's not like Dustin
- 42:31Speaker 2: had to do deep dives and talk to had twelve
- 42:34Speaker 2: sources just to make this observation. But it does make sense,
- 42:37Speaker 2: and that should tell you that anything else on this
- 42:40Speaker 2: list isn't just like a wild guess that has no basis.
- 42:45Speaker 2: It's just it's Dustin observing things, and hey, based off
- 42:49Speaker 2: of what we've seen and heard, this could happen. So
- 42:53Speaker 2: from there are what are the other unless you have
- 42:55Speaker 2: anything else about Jordan Addison.
- 42:57Speaker 1: No, I think I would just add like, of course
- 43:01Speaker 1: I was hyperbolzing a little bit, and not to like
- 43:04Speaker 1: mock Dustin Baker at any point, but simply to just say, like,
- 43:09Speaker 1: Dustin Baker is really smart and we trust his opinions,
- 43:11Speaker 1: and he does a really good job of bringing this
- 43:14Speaker 1: information to the table and making it easy to access.
- 43:18Speaker 1: So if you don't already subscribe and follow Vikings Territory,
- 43:21Speaker 1: make sure you do that. Moving on, though, I'll just
- 43:25Speaker 1: quickly list the other five or the other four, because
- 43:28Speaker 1: we've already listed one the other four predictions that I
- 43:31Speaker 1: as far as I know, haven't come true yet, yea,
- 43:36Speaker 1: And of course this one, this first one can't come
- 43:39Speaker 1: true yet because the draft hasn't happened. But Dylan thynym Tynaman,
- 43:44Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce his last name, but
- 43:48Speaker 1: he's an Oregon safety that seems to be kind of
- 43:52Speaker 1: at the top of the Vikings draft board. Uh. And
- 43:57Speaker 1: he says, if it's not Dylan Thynaman and the Viking's
- 44:01Speaker 1: first draft pick is a defensive tackle. So again, that
- 44:05Speaker 1: can't come true until the draft happens. We're about what
- 44:09Speaker 1: a month away from the draft? Yep, a little less
- 44:12Speaker 1: than a month away from the draft. So interesting. The
- 44:17Speaker 1: fourth prediction or the second prediction, he counts down five
- 44:21Speaker 1: to one. The second prediction is the Vikings sign defensive
- 44:25Speaker 1: tackle Christian Wilkins or DJ Reader, and he points out
- 44:30Speaker 1: some connections Brian Flores working with Wilkins in Miami and
- 44:38Speaker 1: DJ Reader just being an absolute unit. He's just a
- 44:42Speaker 1: big dude. But he's also getting old. We already talked
- 44:47Speaker 1: about Jordan Addison. Jonathan Garnard gets an extension, he's not traded.
- 44:52Speaker 1: Jonathan Garnard has kind of been the big trade bait talker.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been a huge talker for vikingsson.
- 45:03Speaker 1: And he's definitely worth a lot of money, and the
- 45:07Speaker 1: Vikings moving on from him would open up a lot
- 45:10Speaker 1: of possibilities in the salary cap discussion. However, Dustin Baker's
- 45:17Speaker 1: predicting he gets an extension, which means, based on your
- 45:20Speaker 1: education to me recently, that money would be spread out
- 45:25Speaker 1: rather than all earned in one season and one big
- 45:30Speaker 1: cap hit. And then, finally, and perhaps may maybe the
- 45:35Speaker 1: most like juicy piece of news that we're waiting for
- 45:40Speaker 1: is what happens with Harrison Smith?
- 45:42Speaker 2: Yeah? Right?
- 45:43Speaker 1: Does he come back? Does he retire? Does he go
- 45:46Speaker 1: play for someone else? Like that? All three I think
- 45:49Speaker 1: are legitimate possibilities. The Vikings designated him for a post
- 45:54Speaker 1: June first cut, which I think a lot of uneducated
- 45:59Speaker 1: fans freaked out and they're like, oh, they could Harrison Smith.
- 46:01Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I would say, mostly uneducated, but also me,
- 46:06Speaker 2: who is mostly not concerned about it. But I don't
- 46:11Speaker 2: and and I've said this a thousand times, probably on
- 46:14Speaker 2: the show too, I don't love the idea that the
- 46:17Speaker 2: door is open for Harrison Smith to be a free
- 46:20Speaker 2: agent at all. It just lends the idea that any
- 46:23Speaker 2: team could call his representatives and be like, hey, just
- 46:27Speaker 2: give us one year, you know. But anyways, but you
- 46:29Speaker 2: got probably not going to happen.
- 46:31Speaker 1: You gotta thinks we'll just go down this rabbit trail
- 46:34Speaker 1: for a minute. You gotta think, if you're Harrison Smith
- 46:36Speaker 1: and you've played for this organization for this long, you've
- 46:39Speaker 1: been dis loyal, the least that management could do is
- 46:43Speaker 1: say this is what we're gonna do. It doesn't mean
- 46:45Speaker 1: we want to get rid of you. It doesn't mean
- 46:47Speaker 1: we're done with you yet. It just opens up opportunities
- 46:52Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, and if you find an opportunity that's better,
- 46:57Speaker 1: let's talk.
- 46:57Speaker 2: Well. But I genuinely believe in reality, the team has
- 47:03Speaker 2: probably been like, hey, you're here if you want to
- 47:07Speaker 2: be here, and we will do, you know, whatever we
- 47:09Speaker 2: can to make sure you're here. You know, you can
- 47:12Speaker 2: continue playing for us, but you know, just paperwork wise
- 47:18Speaker 2: and the way the league rules work wise, we have
- 47:22Speaker 2: to you know, release you. And I not that I
- 47:27Speaker 2: know anything, but like, I wouldn't be shocked if Harrison
- 47:31Speaker 2: Smith is like, because we've heard about this before. We've
- 47:33Speaker 2: heard in the past, Harry's told his representatives like, hey,
- 47:38Speaker 2: it's either the Vikings or nobody, So like, I don't
- 47:41Speaker 2: care I'm pretty sure if I'd spent two minutes looking
- 47:44Speaker 2: for it, we could find an article or a quote
- 47:46Speaker 2: straight from Harrison Smith that says something to the tune
- 47:49Speaker 2: of like, I don't care how much money it is,
- 47:52Speaker 2: just either you make it happen or I'll retire. So
- 47:55Speaker 2: for all we know, he has told the team that like,
- 47:57Speaker 2: I don't know yet, but like I want't play for
- 48:00Speaker 2: anybody else, So I'm either going to come back and
- 48:03Speaker 2: play for you or I'm going to retire, And for
- 48:06Speaker 2: all we know, like a deal has already been done.
- 48:08Speaker 2: So but I just being uneasy. And you know what
- 48:11Speaker 2: do we the phrase that we use all the time,
- 48:13Speaker 2: the most Vikings thing ever, It just we always think doomsday,
- 48:18Speaker 2: and I think the most Vikings things ever. As far
- 48:21Speaker 2: as Harrison Smith goes, is like the team releases him,
- 48:24Speaker 2: fully knowing he's either going to retire or comeback, and
- 48:27Speaker 2: then out of nope, nowhere the Bears give him a
- 48:31Speaker 2: call and they just say like, hey, you're Viking for life,
- 48:35Speaker 2: but like give us one year and we'll give you
- 48:40Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars. You know, whatever it is, somebody,
- 48:43Speaker 2: the door is open for somebody to give Harry an
- 48:46Speaker 2: offer he can't refuse. And I wouldn't blame him at
- 48:49Speaker 2: all if he signed. Now, if he signed for somebody
- 48:52Speaker 2: for one million dollars and that was it, you know,
- 48:55Speaker 2: i'd be like, what are you doing? Like, but if
- 48:58Speaker 2: he signed, if he got a deal for a respectable,
- 49:01Speaker 2: crazy amount of money on any team, I wouldn't blame
- 49:04Speaker 2: him the person. But I just don't like that the
- 49:07Speaker 2: door's open for that opportunity. Yeah, And I don't disagree
- 49:11Speaker 2: with you, however, I don't know.
- 49:15Speaker 1: Loyalty is pretty important to me, m And I feel
- 49:19Speaker 1: like loyalty is pretty important to Harrison Smith. And I
- 49:22Speaker 1: can just tell from like, I've never met the guy,
- 49:25Speaker 1: never had a conversation with him. Yeah, maybe someday I will,
- 49:28Speaker 1: which is a pretty open invitation. We've done this before, Harry,
- 49:31Speaker 1: come on the show, Come on the show, Harrison Smith.
- 49:35Speaker 1: But I just feel like loyalty is a big deal
- 49:37Speaker 1: to him too. And I don't know. I like to
- 49:41Speaker 1: have faith in people. I like to, you know, I
- 49:45Speaker 1: hope that they'll do the best thing, and not just
- 49:49Speaker 1: what's best for them, but the best thing overall. And
- 49:53Speaker 1: I think I think Harrison Smith will He'll make the
- 49:56Speaker 1: right decision for him, whatever that is, and you have
- 50:00Speaker 1: have to respect it. But I don't know. I think
- 50:04Speaker 1: he'll stick with Austin. I think he'll stick with the Vikings. Now,
- 50:07Speaker 1: I would like to take a moment to go on
- 50:09Speaker 1: a rabbit trail. I know you saw this news today
- 50:14Speaker 1: and this is wildly unrelated to the Vikings or football.
- 50:17Speaker 2: Really quick, I don't know if we've actually said what
- 50:19Speaker 2: Dustin said in the article. His prediction is that Harrison
- 50:22Speaker 2: Smith will return to the Vikings.
- 50:24Speaker 1: Correct. I'm glad you added that.
- 50:26Speaker 2: Anyways, keep going. Sorry.
- 50:27Speaker 1: I predicted a while ago that the head coach of
- 50:32Speaker 1: the You and I Panthers basketball team would stick with
- 50:35Speaker 1: the Panthers basketball team basically for his entire career. But
- 50:39Speaker 1: that news came out today that Ben Jacobson is leaving
- 50:43Speaker 1: the University of Northern Iowa. That's crazy to go to
- 50:46Speaker 1: Utah State, and I have to admit I was kind
- 50:49Speaker 1: of emotional about that. I was kind of sad about that.
- 50:52Speaker 1: That guy has not only been just a really really
- 50:55Speaker 1: good basketball coach, but he's just a really good human being,
- 50:58Speaker 1: Like he's just he's I've never had the chance to
- 51:01Speaker 1: actually talk to him in person. I did get a
- 51:04Speaker 1: chance one time to be a part of like kind
- 51:06Speaker 1: of like a coach's meeting. It was virtual. It was
- 51:09Speaker 1: during COVID, but somebody invited him to come on to
- 51:14Speaker 1: this zoom call and he did and so kind of
- 51:17Speaker 1: by extension, I was there and quote unquote got to
- 51:21Speaker 1: meet him. But man, like, even just watching him from
- 51:26Speaker 1: AFAR and watching him coach that team, what an outstanding individual.
- 51:31Speaker 1: And I predicted and he kept This is the thing
- 51:36Speaker 1: with him, He kept signing extension after extension after extension.
- 51:40Speaker 2: Seemed like he was.
- 51:42Speaker 1: Years.
- 51:42Speaker 2: That's as far as coaches go, that's kind of lifeer territory.
- 51:46Speaker 1: He was there for a while, but I just kept saying, oh,
- 51:50Speaker 1: he'll sign another five year extension in the next couple
- 51:53Speaker 1: of years. And that was true for a while until
- 51:57Speaker 1: I saw the news today and like, man, what what
- 52:00Speaker 1: a blow for Northern Iowa.
- 52:02Speaker 2: He's been the coach as long as I've known Northern
- 52:04Speaker 2: Iowa basketball to exist.
- 52:06Speaker 1: Yep, same for me, and so many good moments beating
- 52:10Speaker 1: Kansas to go to the Sweet sixteen. That floor, interestingly enough,
- 52:14Speaker 1: that they lost to Michigan State on in the sweet
- 52:18Speaker 1: sixteen was the floor they played on up until this season.
- 52:22Speaker 1: They replaced the floor this season, but they played on
- 52:26Speaker 1: that floor forever.
- 52:27Speaker 2: Well and fun fact for me, you worked in that facility. Yeah,
- 52:32Speaker 2: so I was a part of the crew those in
- 52:35Speaker 2: the football and basketball really all the athletic facilities that
- 52:39Speaker 2: would you know, lay down the football turf the night
- 52:42Speaker 2: before a game if needed be, or you know, lay
- 52:45Speaker 2: down the basketball court or pull up the basketball court.
- 52:48Speaker 2: There was various times that we'd have an event in
- 52:52Speaker 2: the McLeod Center, the basketball are you know where the
- 52:54Speaker 2: basketball court would be down. We needed to pull it
- 52:57Speaker 2: up and then there'd be an event and then we'd
- 52:59Speaker 2: need to put court back down within the next day
- 53:01Speaker 2: or so. So I've physically handled that court a handful
- 53:06Speaker 2: of times. But yeah, that's it it. I didn't realize
- 53:10Speaker 2: they just replaced it.
- 53:12Speaker 1: They just replaced it this year, I'm pretty sure. But anyways,
- 53:16Speaker 1: all that to say, coach Ben Jacobson, you're a good person,
- 53:22Speaker 1: great coach. As a coach myself, I've looked up to
- 53:25Speaker 1: you a lot of respect. I wish you would have
- 53:27Speaker 1: stayed with you and I for the rest of your career,
- 53:29Speaker 1: but I get it. We all have decisions to make
- 53:31Speaker 1: and we all got to do what's best for us.
- 53:33Speaker 1: And yeah, that's how I'm gonna tie that back to
- 53:36Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, because I think he's in the same spot.
- 53:39Speaker 1: He's got to do what's best for him. Will I
- 53:42Speaker 1: be shocked if he's not a Viking, Yes, absolutely, I
- 53:45Speaker 1: think all of us that will that will, Like I said,
- 53:49Speaker 1: just kick off the whole Harrison Smith conversation. It's probably
- 53:52Speaker 1: the juiciest piece of news that's still out there yet
- 53:56Speaker 1: to be determined. But Harrison Smith, you do you man,
- 54:00Speaker 1: you do what's best for you and your family. But man,
- 54:03Speaker 1: we'd love to see you play in Purple for at
- 54:05Speaker 1: least one more year.
- 54:06Speaker 2: I will say too. And this will be my last
- 54:09Speaker 2: thing on this whole Harrison Smith thing until we get
- 54:11Speaker 2: definitive news either way, if he were to sign with
- 54:17Speaker 2: another team now, if it's some crazy obviously it was
- 54:22Speaker 2: an offer he can't refuse. That I mentioned earlier, like
- 54:24Speaker 2: some team offered him twenty million dollars and we knew
- 54:28Speaker 2: for sure the Vikings weren't gonna offer them like offer
- 54:31Speaker 2: that much. It'd be hard to fault him for. But
- 54:35Speaker 2: if you know he were to sign with another team
- 54:38Speaker 2: for something that obviously the Vikings could have signed him
- 54:41Speaker 2: for or you know, it came out that the Vikings
- 54:44Speaker 2: were interested, but he just went with the other team
- 54:46Speaker 2: for whatever reason that would put him to me in
- 54:50Speaker 2: Adam theal And territory. And I know I'm really petty
- 54:55Speaker 2: you are, but I it'll take a long time for
- 55:00Speaker 2: me to feel good about looking back on Adam Thelen's
- 55:04Speaker 2: time as a Viking and feel good about it. He
- 55:07Speaker 2: was one that it was great when he was here
- 55:10Speaker 2: throughout his whole career, and then it made sense that
- 55:12Speaker 2: the Vikings were gonna cut him a few years ago
- 55:14Speaker 2: when they did just because of his production and his
- 55:17Speaker 2: contract value, and you know, that made sense. That was
- 55:21Speaker 2: a team decision. But then they signed Adam Thelen back,
- 55:25Speaker 2: or they traded for him again, and we had a
- 55:27Speaker 2: whole episode title where it's like Helon's back and we
- 55:30Speaker 2: both wore our Thealing jerseys for that episode and we
- 55:32Speaker 2: were so excited, and then it just didn't work out.
- 55:35Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five, you know, he didn't wasn't getting
- 55:37Speaker 2: a lot of playing time, and it seems like he
- 55:39Speaker 2: asked for his release and that that really put a
- 55:42Speaker 2: bad taste in my mouth as a fan. Which again
- 55:45Speaker 2: I recognized really petty. But it's one that I don't
- 55:48Speaker 2: think I'll wear my Adam Thealin jersey again. Like, and
- 55:51Speaker 2: I'm thirty five, I don't need to be wearing NFL
- 55:53Speaker 2: jerseys as I'm wearing one right now. But like I get,
- 55:59Speaker 2: I get how petty I'm sounding. But like, if Harrison
- 56:03Speaker 2: Smith were to sign with another team at this point, again,
- 56:07Speaker 2: unless it was one of those offers he can't refuse,
- 56:09Speaker 2: it would make me feel very Adam feeling like about him,
- 56:13Speaker 2: which would really suck because Harrison Smith and C. J.
- 56:16Speaker 2: Ham are some of the last two you know, lifelong
- 56:19Speaker 2: Vikings that I would think, and we'll probably have an
- 56:22Speaker 2: episode about this here in the off season that I
- 56:25Speaker 2: would think are like forever you could buy their jersey
- 56:27Speaker 2: and feel good about, you know, like Harry the Hitman,
- 56:30Speaker 2: He's a Viking, true and true. So I hope he returns.
- 56:34Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't retire, and if he does return,
- 56:37Speaker 2: I hope it's with the Vikings, and I would I
- 56:39Speaker 2: would hate it if it was anywhere else for any
- 56:43Speaker 2: other reason. So come back, Harry.
- 56:46Speaker 1: So what's interesting to me as we move on here
- 56:50Speaker 1: is the other three predictions that Dustin makes in this
- 56:55Speaker 1: article have to do with either the safety position or
- 57:02Speaker 1: the defensive line. That's an interesting thing, right, Like, you know,
- 57:08Speaker 1: the defense was arguably the best unit on the field
- 57:11Speaker 1: this past season. Brian Flores is staying in Minnesota because
- 57:15Speaker 1: he's one heck of a coach who knows how to
- 57:19Speaker 1: motivate these young guys to go out, have a nose
- 57:22Speaker 1: for the ball and prevent the other team from gaining
- 57:25Speaker 1: yards and scoring points. These are all defensive predictions, though,
- 57:32Speaker 1: and I think they're all big question marks. When the
- 57:36Speaker 1: Vikings watched Harris and Phillips leave, there was a big.
- 57:39Speaker 2: Question they traded him.
- 57:41Speaker 1: Away but yea, yeah, but I mean when he left, Yeah,
- 57:45Speaker 1: however he left, right, there's a big question mark in
- 57:48Speaker 1: the middle of the defensive line. What's going to happen
- 57:52Speaker 1: When cam Binam left, there was a big hole in
- 57:58Speaker 1: the defensive secondary. And we've said forever now like that's
- 58:03Speaker 1: a concern, and it was kind of a concern. Yeah. Sure.
- 58:06Speaker 1: Byron Murphy played well and kept his name out of
- 58:10Speaker 1: the headlines for all the right reasons, like did all
- 58:12Speaker 1: the good things to you know, just not be a problem,
- 58:18Speaker 1: and people didn't throw his way, which is great. But
- 58:23Speaker 1: now we're talking about a defensive tackle. We're talking about
- 58:29Speaker 1: potential replacements like Christian Wilkins or DJ Reader. And we're
- 58:33Speaker 1: talking about Jonathan Grenard. Is he gonna stay or is
- 58:36Speaker 1: he gonna go? Should I stay or should I go?
- 58:39Speaker 1: And we're talking about arguably one of the better safeties
- 58:43Speaker 1: in the draft out of Oregon. Out of those three predictions,
- 58:50Speaker 1: Dylan Tenneman. Again, I'm probably saying that name. Yeah, I
- 58:53Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce his name. The kid from
- 58:56Speaker 1: Oregon safety getting Christian Wilkins slash DJ Reader or Jonathan
- 59:04Speaker 1: Garnard re signing with the Vikings getting an extension. What
- 59:08Speaker 1: do you think is the most likely to happen? Because
- 59:11Speaker 1: I think we've talked to the other two things to death. Really,
- 59:15Speaker 1: Jordan Addison has already happened. We're no longer predicting the future.
- 59:20Speaker 1: It's fact. And Harrison Smith Dustin thinks he'll return. It's
- 59:26Speaker 1: still open ended. But what about these other three things
- 59:29Speaker 1: where you at which one do you think is the
- 59:31Speaker 1: most likely to happen?
- 59:33Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the most likely to happen
- 59:35Speaker 2: at this point, which I would have given a completely
- 59:38Speaker 2: I would not have said this a month ago, but
- 59:41Speaker 2: I feel like at this point, Jonathan Gernard is going
- 59:44Speaker 2: to be extended. He's still in a contract, I believe
- 59:49Speaker 2: through the end of twenty twenty seven, so two full seasons,
- 59:55Speaker 2: but for when he's healthy for the level of play.
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: Compared to other players that can play at his level,
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: his contract right now is kind of cheap. It's at
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: least ten million dollars a year late from what it
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: could be. So I truly think if I had to
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: bet yes or no of these three things to happen,
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: I'd say Jonathan Garnard he's probably going to get a
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: contract that's a win win for both the team. Maybe
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: the team takes a little bit of a hit, but
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: a win win for both the team and Grenard. We'll
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: never know if there were deep and heavy conversations with
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: other teams and even trade negotiations for Jonathan Grenard unless
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: they come out and say it, but he's still on
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: the team. There hasn't been a lot of hot and
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: heavy rumors about him being traded away in the last
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: handful of days or a week or so. I really
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: think it'll come down to a situation where the Vikings
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: will figure out a way to give him a raise,
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: maybe keep him for another couple of years on top
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: of what he's got on his contract already, and that
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: he'll be a staple to this defense for the next
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: handful of years to come. So of picking Dylan the
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: enemen or a defensive tackle in the first round, or
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: signing Christian Wilkins or DJ Reader on the defensive line,
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: or you know, extending Jonathan Garnard, I think, to me,
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: at this moment, from what I've seen and heard, Grenard
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: being extended is the most likely thing to happen.
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I would tend to agree with that. And I
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: think also kind of probably not entirely exactly like the
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: Jordanadison situation, but kind of like the jordanadis In situation.
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: There's been no movement otherwise.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: With edge rushers, right, that's true, Like it's been well,
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: there's been really no movement at all.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: True.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: They've signed what two, well three free agents that weren't
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: on this team, you know, this past year. So yeah,
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: you would think if it comes down to letting a
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: current player walk or stay, they're probably going to try
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: to keep as many current players as possible. Sorry, I
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: totally cut you off there, No.
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: I No, I think that's a valid point to make,
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: and I think Jonathan Garnard is a very valuable player
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: to keep if you can work it out to where
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: the contract makes sense for the player and the team,
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: right like, That's where I think where the rubber will
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: meet the road, and both the player and the team
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: will have to come to terms, and if they can't,
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: then the player will walk, right Like. I think that's
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: just the simple reality of it. But I tend to
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: be optimistic that Jonathan Garnard will stay and hopefully Rob
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: Brazinski and whoever else is in that office now being
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: the mastermind behind this all, hopefully they can figure it
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: out with Jonathan Garnard to say, hey, you're you're one
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: of the top played payers on the team. Players on
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: the team, Let's let's take that contract and spread it
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: over a handful of years rather than just making this
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: one big cap hit. You'll still get more money in
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: the long run, but it'll benefit the team in the
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: long run as well.
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: You said something I thought was interesting a minute ago.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: You said something about the team either you know signs
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: a player long term, or you know the player walks
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: and in the Gernard situation, the player walking isn't an
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: option unless he straight up retires. Vikings hold his rights
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: not just for this year, but the next two seasons.
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: So it's been a while since the Vikings have had
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: a bona fide in the media actively holdout situation. We've
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: had rumors about stuff in the past. You know, the
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: darrisaw contract. Before he signed, it was like, well, you
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: hope the Vikings figure that out. Every year it seems
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: like the media wants the Vikings to trade away justin Jefferson.
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: And you know Jefferson, right before he signed his current deal,
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: he was entering the last season of his deal, and
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: there was a whole situation where like, well, maybe he
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: could hold out. But there hasn't been a bona fide
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: holdout for the Vikings of a big name player for
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: a long time. And I bring that up because Gernard
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: has all the makings. Not saying a player holding out
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: is like a negative, like, oh, that guy's holding out.
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: If that guy we don't need him, that's a terrible
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: thing to do because they should be advocating for every
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: dollar they can. But I think if the Vikings aren't
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: able to figure out either a trade or an extension
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: quickly with Grenard. That quickly could turn into a situation
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: where we see a publicized high level player on this
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: team holding out and no teams like that at all,
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: especially on a team where you know you mentioned it
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: second ago two. There's no current full time GM, there's
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: only Brazinski, who's the interim GM, and if he's actively
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: looking to keep that role, which maybe we can talk
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: about that here in a minute, initiating a player holdout
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: probably doesn't make you look too great as somebody who's
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: acting as the GM in the eyes of the owner.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: So yeah, I think at this point we all like Grenard, right,
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: And unless the Vikings were to get some kind of
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: a crazy amazing offer that included at least a first
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: round pick and more, we'd all even if a team
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: was like, all right, we're gonna trade for Grenard for
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: a second and a seventh. Me personally, it'd be like,
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: let's just keep Grenard then, like you can pay him more,
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: and he's worth more than that. So yeah, I think
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: it would behoove the Vikings to keep him for longer.
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: And he's only like twenty eight, so keep it going.
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I'm in the brisiness of keeping Grenard.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: You see what I did.
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: I did copyright Brevian bain.
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: No. I agree with everything you just said there, and honestly, like,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think Jonathan Grenard is the
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: next most likely thing. The other stuff it just seems
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: kind of tertiary at this point. It's not even secondary,
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: it's tertiary. It will happen. They will bolster the interior
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: defensive line, they will find more talent at the safety
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: position and add to the defensive backfield. But yeah, I
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like we've talked this article pretty
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: well down to its bones. You you mentioned just a
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: second ago, and you also added on a notes a
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: while ago that you added a prediction here, And I
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: want to know what your prediction is. If you were
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: to rewrite Dustin's article and add a sixth prediction, what
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: would it be?
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: All Right? So my prediction, last one is that Roberzinski,
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: the current Vikings interim general manager, he will not be
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: named full time general manager. Whether that's you know, soon
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: after the draft, when they've said that they're going to
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: start up their full time search for GM, or however
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: long they search. Eventually it will be the GM will
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: be named someone not named Rob Brazinski. However, included in
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: my prediction is that Brazinski will still stay with the
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: team in his role. I forget was he the executive
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: vice president of something something. He is a very important
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: person in the Vikings franchise, and I think he will
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: go back into that role that he's been in for
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: almost three decades. And an asterisk to this prediction is
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: that which again will never know unless he publicly comes
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: out and says it, that will be due to his choice,
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: Like he will probably choose to go back to being
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: the cap guru that he's been for three decades rather
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: than the GM. Maybe they give him like a super
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: fancy title increase, like president of Operations or whatever, you know,
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: maybe he gets a boost in a title. But I
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: think it could be something where he's like, I don't
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: I don't want to be the GM. I'll do it
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: if the team needs me to, but hire somebody else
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: for that. And I'd rather go back to, you know,
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: managing the rest of the team without worrying about player
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: acquisition and stuff like that. So that's my hot take. Evan,
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: Do you think I'm crazy? Do you think there's merit
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: to that. Do you have any thoughts on that whatsoever?
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: Honestly, I think most people I'm going to disagree with you.
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: I think I think most people in his position are
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: going to take the notoriety and the quote unquote fame
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: that shom with a position like that. I don't know
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: Rob Brazinski from Adam or don't know what he even
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: really looks like other than in pictures. I wouldn't know
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: who he is if he walked in front of me
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: and said, Hey, what's up. My name is Rob. So
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: I can't judge his character. I can't judge his decision making.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: I don't know what he would do, but I would
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: have to expect that somebody who is in his position
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: right now, who's essentially the acting GM. Yeah, it's exactly
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: what he is if the job was handed to him.
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: And I'm speaking a little bit from experience, because you know,
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: if I worked hard to do someone else's job and
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: then that job, which is better than the job I have,
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: were offered to me and it came with better pay
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: and some notoriety and some clout to throw around in
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: the organization, I'd be like, yeah, give that to me.
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: I'll take that every day, I won't even bat and
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: I like, Yep, that's what I want. And I don't know. Again,
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: I don't know Rob Razinski. I don't know what he wants.
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: I don't know his likes and dislikes, and I don't
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: know his preferences, And I don't know. You could be right.
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: Maybe he's cool taking the back seat and just letting
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: some other GM come in and run the show and
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: he doesn't want to deal with that heat. He's a
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: team player. He'll step up and do it, and then
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: he'll you know, back into the background and just be
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: that team player again.
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: You could be right, but I would have to expect
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: that if he's like most other people. Once you get
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: a taste of that and you're like, wait, you're gonna
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: pay me more and people will know who I am
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: and you know there's a little bit more fame and
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: notoriety with that, then yeah, I'll take that job.
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: Yeah, we're also assuming like he would get a pay raise,
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: and like, obviously title sounds sexier to be the GM.
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: But I think of like the current way that the
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons front office looks. They hired Matt Ryan to
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: basically be like the buffer between the GM and the owner.
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: And then they hired another GM from Chicago, but they
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: he's called GM, but he's not like the highest up.
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: So like Chicago Bears fans like they're upset because any
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: other situation, that guy leaving Chicago would have gotten Chicago
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: a couple of or at least a really nice COMP
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: pick in the future. But since he's not the like
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: highest up in the in the front office, that he's
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: not considered for compiics. One more sprinkle of information for
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: that that I'll add to that basically led to my
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: prediction here is that for many years with the Vikings,
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: their GM was Rick Bielman, who I actually didn't mind,
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: but you know, I also didn't mind when the team
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: went away from him, because you know, you can only
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: be at the same level for so long before you
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: lose your job. But his assistant GM for many many
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: years was George Patten George Peyton, however you say his
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: last name, and every year for like a decade, it
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: seemed like we would get reports. Yeah, this team requested
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: to interview assistant GM George Patten for their GM spot
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: and he turned it down. Not the Vikings blocked it,
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: but George turned it down. And then you know, one
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: time the Broncos they fired John Elway, they were looking
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: for a GM and they requested to interview George Peyton,
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: I think is how you say it. And that was
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: the one time George was like, all right, yeah, I'll
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: interview for it, and then he got hired. Well, George
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: Peyton is now entering twenty twenty six as his last
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: year of his contract, and he doesn't have a new
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: contract beyond this upcoming season. You never know. Again, We're
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: just a couple of dudes in your basement in Iowa
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: who have no sources whatsoever. But George could be thinking like, hey,
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: I could ride this last season out with Denver. And
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: obviously he likes Minnesota. He was there for many years
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: and actively chose to stay there instead of getting promotions
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: or potential promotions elsewhere. He could be thinking, all right,
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: I'll just stay here. If the Vikings elect to keep
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: Rasinski in an interim role throughout the season and then
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: wait until January of twenty twenty seven to enter the
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: normal cycle of hiring a GM and coach, then not Brasinski,
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: then Peyton could be available. He could be a free
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: agent due to his own choice of not signing a
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: contract increase with the Broncos, and then he could come
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: back home to Minnesota. Again, pure speculation, and who knows
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: if that would even be a good thing. But I
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: mean it's stuck crazy stuff like that that could make
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: you think, like, Okay, if they get to May, June,
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: July and they haven't hired a full time GM Brazinski,
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: I mean, if we had a training camp and the
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: Vikings haven't hired a full time GM, we should expect
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: Brazinski to be the guy throughout this football season, regardless
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: of rumors of other gms being available. But never know,
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: something we'll be talking about for quite a while.
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: You're a keen observer the football condition, my friend, you're
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: also a keen observer of beer. Yes, I think we
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: should talk about this beer really quick and then wrap
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: things up. What did you think about Zach's Mexican Donuts?
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: I like this a lot. This to me would be
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: a perfect cool evening by the fire, I wouldn't. I
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: think I mentioned the lawnmower scale last week with the
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: what do we have the CITR surfer last week? Sit
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: your surfer really high on the lawnmower scale. You're gonna
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: get off the lawnmower or even still on the lawnmower
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: and throw back a handful of those citrus surfers. That's
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: not what this Mexican Donuts beer is. This is a
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: nice you're sitting by the fire. This is a good
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: night ender. You're gonna have two, three, maybe four at
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: the most, but not during the hot blazing sun. This
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: is a this is nice when it's a little bit chilly.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: This is a fall time or end of the evening
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: or chili type of beer. But it's really good.
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: I like it a ton agreed. It's unique coffee is
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: it's good with beer. But it's not for everyone. Yeah,
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: And it's not for every occasion, right Like, it's not
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: like a like a citruser for like I grab one
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: of those out of the fridge anytime. Yeah, right, Like,
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: it's just oh yeah, I'm thirsty for a beer. Here
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: we go. I'm not going to gravitate towards this all
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: the time. But it's a good beer. It's a solid
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: beer that has its place in the rotation of beers
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: that one might drink. And I think you're right. I
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: think you're onto something it's a it's a nighttime beer,
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: it's a cooler weather beer. It's a maybe maybe even
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: a celebratory beer, like I just did something great and
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: I want something unique and different, and I want to
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: I want to cheers my guys, you know, as we
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: as we did something special.
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: It's almost like a dessert beer. Not quite square in
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: that category, but it's it's somewhere there.
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: The coffee definitely removes it from the dessert beer category,
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: but it like not completely. I don't know if that
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: makes sense, but it's really good. I like it a lot.
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it, and I might have to
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: come back to this one.
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good one for sure. So yeah, all right,
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- 1:19:12Speaker 1: family friendly, the only thing we do that's maybe not
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: the most child friendly as we drink beer. But yes,
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: guess what, I drink beer in front.
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: Of my kids.
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: It's fine. They know about that.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: There's no language. Yeah, I think one of our sponsors
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: might be the closest we get.
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: That's probably true. But even then, it's just like, you
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- 1:19:40Speaker 1: You can get a hat like that.
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: Perhaps I don't know if these hats are on tea public,
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: but we do have some stuff on it.
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: I said, perhaps you can get shirts, you can get
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- 1:19:57Speaker 1: that's a pretty extensive list.
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: Yeah, where we are? You hit everything, Evan. We we
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: talked about a lot. We played a game. We'll see
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: how that that trains late. But yeah, this was great conversation.
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: Maybe the best episode.
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say so.
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