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Rabbi Moshe Haber Orchot Yashar: The Peril of Obsession and the Power of Ego 7.12.26 · Rabbi Moshe Haber - Daily Mussar/Weekly Perasha

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  We've been saying Krakowski's book in which his overall
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  concept is that in order to a person develop it, let me take
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  all the character traits, let me take all the letters in the
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  alphabet, Excuse me and 1 by 1 show you different characters a
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  person wants to work on, different aspects of life one
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  wants to work on. So the letter mem we saw last
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  week is Me dot. Thank you.
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  And Me dot is a world onto itself where people spend their
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  entire life focusing on Medora and trying to develop themselves
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  one way or another. Today's focus is on the fact
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  that you can have a small thing on your mind.
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  It's Medora oriented and it'll drive a person absolutely crazy.
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  In other words, a person that's something that bothers him and
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  then becomes an obsession. And he gives multiple examples
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  of people who their end result was and Lamb Heather Goranabad,
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  I'll give you the words examples.
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  ENE Masino Barbados We find 4 individuals.
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  We're going to see the ends. The ends are not good, but their
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  beginnings were amazing. Some of them at least.
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  Shamlu Khazal, these 4 Belam Vidoyage, Baritofil, Vigue Hazi,
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  one of them is good, but the other three were Jewish.
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  Other three were were they all four were geniuses.
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  They all four were extremely gifted, all for a great
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  potential and lame headachlan about all four ended up non
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  Alam, about all Shakulam, Nenshu, Bishumi daughter.
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  They all got punished because of Barry character traits.
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  What are you learning here? Learning we're about to see.
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  The key to all them was a little craziness, a little bit of an
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  obsession, something that got them nuts and they just couldn't
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  get past. And when they ended up doing
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  this, it turned the entire world upside down.
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  Kodak should be another thing too, by the way.
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  That that he's jealousy. I know why he's not here.
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  Should be on the list too. That's a good point.
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  Same thing to turn the world upside down.
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  You try to create a certain outcome that fits them, that
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  makes them feel good. And the result know all about
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  the result demise, the result disaster.
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  I'll see you too. For example, he is Balaam.
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  Balaam had a had a partner in crime as Balaq Balaq Hari
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  Balaam, the king of Midyan Hari Balaam to committed sin right to
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  curse. And yet Balaq does not get the
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  same way. Binya Balam it says we don't
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  find this sort of demise for Balaq QSR cannabis field Parto
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  Balaq. It made sense what he was doing
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  Crazy, but it made sense. He hired a cursor named Balaam
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  to curse George Field because Balaq was scared.
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  Being scared is normal. He was scared of a bad outcome.
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  That's fine. Balaam what Balaam do it for
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  what happened but I'm law but I'm had nothing to do with us
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  and he attempted to ruin and destroy a a full nation for no
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  reason. What was the reason?
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  Some money again, here's an example of a person having an
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  obsession. Now money is a real obsession.
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  We know that, but a person having an obsession and that
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  obsession drove him, and he drove him to curse and in his
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  try to curse and in his nation. This I understand is not so
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  strange in our minds, because money does drive people to do
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  terrible things, Understood. Right.
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  And how about Doek? Who's Doek?
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  Say I dos Hassanadin? This is a man who is the head of
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  the Saudin. To be the head of Saudin, you
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  need to know every language. To be the head, you need to know
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  everything. He's a genius, fully knowledge
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  one Surah when they love David. David.
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  And he was upset that David in his presence.
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  OK, so you're a rabbi, you're a genius.
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  You're the leader of the St. And there's a Jewish king who
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  says in your presence, maybe without consulting you.
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  OK, this. And does it hurt you?
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  Yes. Does it bother you?
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  Yes. But does it drive you crazy?
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  That's going too far. And how crazy?
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  We'll see in a second is that. A guy of a thing.
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  That's a guy of a thing, right? How crazy did he go?
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  He went and told Shaul Ahmeda that it's an idea that's
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  recommended to kill the city of Nov to wipe out a city of
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  Kwanim. A city of Kwanim?
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  They told a person to kill a city.
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  I'm saying he's a robber. He's a genius.
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  He's a head of Saudi and he tells the king to kill a city
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  because they saved and protected Davida Merek tells Shaol to kill
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  a city that protected David, all because it's upset at David
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  because of a lack of respect. Does that sound like he's going
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  too far? Sounds like killing a city.
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  And he made the reason off, right?
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  And he made-up the whole thing. And one second, what was the
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  other thing? Davida Merek also came up with
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  the exact spot where the Bethemata should be.
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  He knew the exact spot, and that bothered this man as well.
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  You got it, right? I didn't get it.
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  You got it first. I didn't get it.
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  We're talking about Tara, we're talking about Hashem's word.
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  We're talking about doing this for the right reason, talking
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  about honesty, truth to Tara, everything beautiful.
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  And the man went nuts. An obsession.
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  Because there's a lack of respect in the slightest level.
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  It sounds crazy, correct? That's how people are.
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  When you have something in your mind that's, you know, a
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  Mashigas as they call it, something in your mind that's
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  bothering you. When it comes to Galva, when it
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  comes to being respected, people will go to the 10th degree.
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  People will go to the finish line just to bring out a point
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  because they don't feel good about themselves.
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  This is feel like it's too extreme.
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  It's reality of life. And if you think about people,
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  if you would get into people's mind, this is one of the most
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  embarrassing facts. If he'd go into people's minds,
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  you wouldn't find out how far they go for the smallest thing.
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  We know that people go very far for a TAVA.
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  We know that when you ever hear all these scandals and the guy
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  went here and he went there and they did this like these guys
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  worth a billion dollars and they're embarrassing themselves
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  because how far they went for that.
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  Aveda OK, we know that the same thing is true, maybe even more.
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  How far people go for GAVA. They talk about people and they
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  do a lot. They spend way over their means
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  for a certain party. What is that?
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  That is spending a lot of money to feel good about themselves.
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  That's what it is. And that's when it comes to
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  doing an extra How about fighting?
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  People fight. We've said this before.
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  People will lose what will stand on their hay and spend thousands
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  and thousands dollars in lawyer fees for a fight that is not
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  worth anything because of principle.
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  We all know what principle really means.
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  Principal does not mean principle.
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  Principal means my ego. Principal means they are putting
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  me down, they're hurting me, they're insulting me, my ego.
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  This is an example of how far people go based on the feeling
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  of Gava. I'll give you a few more
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  examples. The question I have is how do
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  you get past this? And this is the reality of life.
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  And this is something that even a person who is a great man and
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  a very knowledgeable man would go this far.
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  How are we protected from this? This is the reality.
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  How are you protected? I have two ways you're
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  protected. You get a question.
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  The one way you're protected is first of all, be honest with
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  yourself. I'm sure that this man and all
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  these other examples that we have were not all.
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  He was not honest with himself. He didn't tell himself, I'm
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  going to tell us all. I met her to kill the city
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  because they said something about that V because that V
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  insulting me. No way he wasn't honest with
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  himself. He probably thought it was
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  rational. He probably thought that if he
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  disrespected me, it's going to cause a lack of respective
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  Torah. It's going to 'cause this people
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  are not going to trust this idea anymore.
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  People are not going to know who's smarter people and get the
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  halacha wrong. And by the way, City of Nov,
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  they're rebelling against King Shaul, all this stuff.
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  And he made-up a whole spiel in his mind, but really the entire
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  thing he built in his mind was based on that false mentality
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  because of a lack of respect. So the really the main thing is
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  be honest with yourself. Tell yourself I'm getting crazy,
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  not because of they're not doing things right away.
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  I don't know all the way they're doing.
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  We don't need to do it this way. No, no, no.
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  I don't feel that good about myself.
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  Those people are making me feel small and that's why I don't
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  approve. If you're honest with yourself,
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  then you look yourself in the mirror and say, I don't want to
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  be that guy. I don't want to be the guy who's
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  destroying a good life. I don't want to be the guy who's
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  destroying good relationships because of a little bit of an
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  insult. By the way, these insults hurt.
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  Nobody's saying they don't hurt. If you are a very big person and
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  someone, let's say you're a guy or you're, I don't say you're
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  part of a shoe. Let's say, fine, you're part of
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  the committee of a shoe and your expertise is, I don't know,
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  running. You have to run a business, run
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  a big business. You know how to run finances
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  very well. You're very organized, you're
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  very good at it. And they make a meeting, have a
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  meeting together, just kind of mind having a meeting and they
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  call everyone together and they have a question.
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  How do we handle the fact that the books all over the place,
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  How do we organize things? And they turn to the guy who has
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  no experience, 0 experience, and they answer this question.
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  They direct everything to him. And they say, you, you're going
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  to be there. You're going to be the point man
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  on this issue. And you're sitting there, you're
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  in a major company, you're very good at this.
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  And they completely got the wrong guy.
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  All right. Or they're they're designing the
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  shoe and they call the guy who has zero experience.
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  It's very, not very much not talented and you design
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  buildings and you're very gifted and they ignore you.
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  How does it hurt? It hurts.
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  You go home to your wife and you tell that was that was
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  unbelievably terrible. How was it today?
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  They they ignored me. They didn't talk to me.
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  They didn't direct anything my way and they know I'm better
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  than the other guy. They know that I'm the guy who
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  knows how to do these things. It feels doesn't feel good.
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  You keep going. You buy a Shabbat table.
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  This happens all the time. You buy a Shabbat table and
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  they're talking about a certain topic, right?
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  And you're the only guy who knows really how this works.
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  I got me personally when I go to my illness, right?
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  They don't have the community in our regular community down pat.
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  So well, I grew up with my parents and the whole thing.
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  I every Haber thinks that they know the community in the back
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  of their hand. That's how it works right now.
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  They're going to talk about the community stuff and community
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  politics, whatever else. I know the score and you
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  probably don't. And they if they don't direct
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  the question to me, I'm sitting there.
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  This guy thinks you know what he's talking about.
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  He's probably going to talk about I in one line.
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  I can tell you the whole story at and if they direct it, I
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  usually get up the off the table when I say I tell my wife they
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  missed it. They have no idea what we're
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  talking about. Fine, But now if I get it, this
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  is reality. I'm telling the truth.
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  If I get insulted now and now I was I was saying, OK, that's
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  fine. I don't care if they're proud of
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  it. If I get up and now and I start
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  saying to these people, they don't know, they think they know
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  and they raise their family that way and they built the whole
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  world away and out of their minds and I go on and on and on.
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  And now I used to a different fight and differently issue
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  definition. That's all because of one thing
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  because I feel small and it takes me to the 10th degree.
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  This is the reality of life. This is what these people did.
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  Now these people had to control and they had power, so they use
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  it to destroy and we would have that same power.
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  Let's say argument's sake, you moved from that board and you on
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  a school board, OK, You move from the Schubert on a school
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  board and now the school has a question.
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  We have 4 kids that want to come into the school next year.
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  We only have room for two, OK? I'm even a reality, we only have
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  room for two, OK. And one of the kids that shows
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  up of those 4 as a kid from that family of these people, I think
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  they know what they're talking about.
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  Who ignored me and insulting me in these things?
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  Are you prone to turn those two kids down?
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  Chances are you will turn those kids down.
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  Why? Here you are.
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  You got insulted, you got insulted, you're in a position
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  of power and use the power against those people.
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  All because of a slight to my ego.
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  This is not an exaggeration at all.
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  It's a makeup of man. The question is, what do we do
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  about it? Answer number one is recognize
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  that it's reality. Once you're aware that it
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  exists, you'll be embarrassed by the fact that you're going to
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  guide your life based on when someone else said to you a few
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  years ago, and you can have a certain perception or a certain
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  reaction or a certain control and a certain response base is
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  something so small. If you're honest with yourself,
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  if you're honest with yourself, that's half the problem.
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  That's half the solution. Actually being honest.
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  Realizing things get us nervous, and they take us at a very far
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  degree as well. You have to work on control,
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  which means the person has to sit on themselves.
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  It's not that big a deal. And an insult is an insult.
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  If someone says something wrong, OK, now I'm going to let it
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  drive myself crazy. First of all, it's embarrassing
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  if I look at myself in the mirror.
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  And second of all, the destruction is going to cause by
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  allowing these things to bother us are devastating, right?
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  People ruin families based on this stuff.
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  People ruin businesses. People ruin schools.
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  People ruin schools, people want everything based on a small
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  slight. And you'd keep peeling away
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  saying what bothered the guy, what bothered the guy, what made
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  him so crazy. And you find that it was one
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  thing set and off moment you're saying that drove the person
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  such an obsession. And answer is yes.
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  So first of all, identify that it exists.
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  Second of all, realizes destruction.
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  And then you come away with it. Come with a different story.
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  He gives you a few more examples.
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  No more clothes. Another example is a man named
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  Khazi. Who's Ghazi?
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  He. Used to work for.
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  A Right after the Eliyahu. Exactly.
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  Alisha Navi, Ghazi, Alisha's guy, you know, those guys are
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  the rabbis guys. He was the rabbis guy.
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  He was a very wise man. He's a prophet's guy.
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  He, by the way, I believe he had Raqqa.
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  What happened to this man? Well, first of all, he did not
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  like other people being around this rabbi.
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  He wanted us to be around. So he blocked the door and
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  didn't let people in. OK, Why didn't let people learn?
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  I ain't set up. I ain't set up.
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  Means he didn't want other people to have the same
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  proximity relationship connection to his rabbi, and
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  therefore he blocked the door. Doesn't sound so crazy to me.
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  Doesn't sound so distant. Here's what he did.
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  What's that item? What He's.
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  He's. I ain't set up.
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  Which means a narrow eye, which means he's not giving and not
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  why he doesn't want to keep. Exactly.
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  He doesn't want other people to have what he has.
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  So in order to keep his life, again, what is he?
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  He's protective of his own life and his own image and his own
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  position. In order to keep that position,
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  he shuts everyone else out. A very classic move.
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  On top of that, he does the following.
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  There's a man who was a king that asked advice.
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  I really shut up and he got advice and the king offered all
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  sorts of riches and gifts to Elisha as a response, as a
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  payback with that advice. Ali Shah being a great Naive
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  said, well, thank you. Khazi sent word and my master
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  changed his mind. My leader changed his mind.
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  He wants the gifts. Why?
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  Because he said that because he wanted it for himself and he
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  took it for himself. He had I ain't the same saying
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  he wanted the lot and he despite he'd ruined the cavora of his
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  rabbi, he ruined the cavora to not imagine me making it look
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  like the naive. He cares about money and that he
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  cares about gifts and he heard the Navi's image and what
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  happened and he lost his LA Lamba.
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  And there's the Kamala says that if he had Kiba years later, if
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  he had Kiba from the Kamala was one day sitting and he's crying.
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  He's crying, looks like it's mourning.
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  Look at his mourning a loss. His students went home and got
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  dressed in mourners clothing because they thought that the
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  rabbi was in a state of mourning.
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  They come back and he'd be like Kiba says to them, why are you
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  wearing mourning clothing? Why are you wearing that
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  clothing? Says they said, because Rabbi,
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  you look like your morning. It's what you're talking about,
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  Rabbi, you crying. And by the way, the BI Kibal was
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  a man we know who walked by the spot of the destroyed Beth
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  Mcdosh, saw a fox walking across it, and it's hard to laugh
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  because he knew there's great potential there.
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  That same man was crying in this instance.
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  Why is he crying? He said came to my mind, I'd be
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  like you have to say about Ghazi.
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  I'm thinking about Ghazi on the Shah assistant.
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  I'm thinking to myself, I'm crying because look at the lost
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  potential. Look what that man could have
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  become. He was a Shah's right hand man.
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  And because of a little bit of honor, a little bit of a feeling
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  of need to keep his position, he destroyed himself and destroyed
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  the world and his outcome. And I'm crying at the lost
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  potential. And the reality is, if you would
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  look at our lives, people around those lives, you would cry at
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  the lost potential that's destroyed because of a little
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  bit, yes, a little bit of a mystery class, a little
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  something that's on their mind that drives them to the craziest
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  degree. You know how when people are,
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  you know, and imagine a movie guys love.
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  So he goes to a crazy degree and you find the doing crazy things
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  and you see the guy standing there by the seas, he's just
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  going crazy because he loves us so much, right?
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  People go crazy. People have the opposite out of
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  hate or more than that. I had a feeling of an insult,
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  feeling of being disparaged, feeling of being not being
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  treated greatly. People go nuts.
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  People go to the craziest degree.
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  And there's been so many examples of people doing this.
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  And what do they do in the end? All they do is to destroy their
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  own life. And they take a beautiful scene
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  and they destroy it. And we have to realize very
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  important thing when it comes to character trees, when it comes
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  to me thought a little small mindset can take over your mind
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  really can take over your whole life can take over your
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  relationships, your conversations, your enjoyment,
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  right? There's been so many times that
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  people have a nice son like this one and someone think it's on
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  their mind. Someone says to me in the
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  morning and it's over the whole day, it's over.
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  They're furious and upset. And like we see with these
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  people in power, because these people have power, they utilize
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  their power terrible things. If we would have that same power
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  with that same mindset, it would be the same unless you plug it,
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  unless you stop and say to yourself, I am not going to
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  allow myself to be that guy. It's a very, very much a yet
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  said on mindset. You know how the yet said, Ah,
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  the class examples like a bug, what it means like a bug when
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  you describe it defines like a bug.
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  A bug is that little thing. And yet if you're eating and
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  there's a bug flying in front of you, keeps swatting it, he got
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  upset, he got off the table, he can't handle it.
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  This mindset of some guy insulting you or some person
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  saying something to you that's not really treating you in your
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  position, that you feel it's like a bug and it destroys your
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  life. Now the only thing is, what do
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  we do about those guys? OK, I had this conversation
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  sound very close to recently. They had a bunch of these guys.
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  What do you do about those people?
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  People do insult us. People do not treat us because
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  we deserve to be treated. What do you do with those
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  people? You just say I'm fine, I'm good.
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  What do you do? If a person right is real with
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  themself, let's let's say now a little baby came a fool say, oh,
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  you know, you're stupid, you don't don't think much of it
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  right. So a person on that, on that
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  level that could say something to insult you is probably in
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  reality a much lower. Level guy.
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  So. Yeah.
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  So their overall mindset it's. Like how to?
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  Look at it my always my perspective and I don't know,
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  I've always debated this is a healthy perspective or not.
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  I don't have any backing to perspectives.
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  And that is when people are that type, they get you nervous and
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  they say things and they put you down or you're in their in their
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  presence. They make you feel small.
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  And there are also people out there on the road.
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  We know a lot of those people. Usually I get in the write off
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  mode. I write them off.
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  It doesn't mean I don't hold to them.
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  It doesn't mean I don't smile with them.
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  I don't schmooze them. No, no problem.
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  I write them off means they do not exist.
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  Their words mean nothing to me. Because I realize that most
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  aggressive people, most people who are the insulters in the 1st
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  place, the people that create these problems, she has our
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  words. They create the problem and we
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  have to suffer our whole lives because they make us crazy,
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  right? That's our works.
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  If, if they're aggressive now and you could say maybe be
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  overly sensitive. So if you want to work on that,
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  that's great too. You want to toughen your skin,
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  that's great. But I think those aggressive
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  people or those people are putting it down more times than
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  not. I cut them out How?
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  Because they're insecure. They're insecure, they're just
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  uncomfortable. They're just not.
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  They're not normal in this. Justify like, oh, that's just
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  how they are or that's just who you know, like, but it's not an
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  excuse. Not an excuse not to be that
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  way. What are you going to do about
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  that? You know, let it ruin your life.
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  We have in our lives the most beautiful lives imaginable.
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  Then we have also these very annoying people.
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  All of us have it. These annoying people.
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  They find a way to put you down in a way that's perfect, right?
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  They act better. They act like they're smarter.
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  They say isn't it sounds like it's I was dealing with a person
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  on Friday talking to on Friday. The guy asked me advice, asked
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  me advice. OK, very good.
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  When you ask someone advice, you're mock me out to them.
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  You're a little humble. When you ask someone advice,
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  you're humble. But then the guy halfway through
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  the conversation was being a little arrogant to me.
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  Why doesn't I don't understand why I wanted to walk away.
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  You asked me advice, right? And then I said, so tell me this
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  detail. You want to tell me details.
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  I understand you asked me advice, but you're not telling
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  me details. I said so who's doing this for
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  you? He doesn't respond.
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  I was confused. The answer is he's strange.
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  I don't know. He's off.
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  He's out of his mind, right? He's a little insecure.
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  I don't know what it is. He doesn't.
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  When you realize that with people, this is not a derogatory
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  statement about people. It's more of an understanding
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  how people are. We are the same way at times.
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  People we can be off too. Once you recognize that, then
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  the fight and the severity and the power of what they do to us,
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  who's down? And it and becomes, it dissolves
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  because it's not that bad. Here's the makeup.
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  Normally you have a great person like us.
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  Everyone has a great life. And you have this person that
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  comes in, says a comment, does something, makes yourself better
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  than you and makes you feel very small.
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  That creates a reaction of eating up our days.
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  And we're obsessed with it and we talk about it.
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  If you realize this before, if you realize we always talk about
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  the same people all the time. Why?
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  Because those people get as nervous, those who'll make us
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  feel small. Now you have a response.
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  The response is I'm not going to let it destroy my life.
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  It's not worth it. The response is, it's only them.
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  It's a small thing. Another response is you take
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  them and you recognize them as a bug, not because they're a bug
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  in general life, but in this instance their comment or their
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  presence is bug like. And you say they're insecure, is
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  their issue, is their problem, it's fine and let them be them.
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  Is this an unhealthy response? This is a healthy response.
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  This is my response. I think it's a healthy response.
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  So that. Oh yeah, yeah.
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  I I feel like so when I try to teach my my, my daughters, I
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  have 4 girls is is because there's a lot of drama in that
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  world, right? For sure.
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  Is that I just haven't. Can't let somebody, somebody
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  can't make you feel any particular way.
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  Because if someone's making you feel down or this or that,
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  you're, you're giving them control over your feelings.
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  You're basically saying you control me.
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  And so you, you, you can't, nobody can make you feel a
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  certain way. They can, they could try, but if
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  you have inner strength and you learn how to strengthen
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  yourself, then all it is is them is looking.
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  They they just happen to look at that point like weak and
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  insecure like you're saying, but the minute that they make you
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  feel a certain way, you have to look in and say, wait, what?
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  How did they just make me feel down or bad?
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  They don't control how I feel just because you think that way.
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  A. Secular book called Let them and
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  it had to teach you how to how to do that like not.
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  That is the that's the move move is to cut them out of taking the
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  term live rent free in your rent free in your brain.
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  There's so many people who live rent free in our brain.
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  It's very hard otherwise. I know, by the way, if we would
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  open up our brains and open up our minds, it would be
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  disappointing. But how much wasted space there
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  is used up by these people once a person figures this out.
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  I had this conversation very close to recently.
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  Once you figure out the best life, because we have good
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  lives, that's not the issue. We just have these people that
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  are placed in the perfect spot who for some odd reason they
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  decided their job to put us down.
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  And once you get passed out. The minute it doesn't work this
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  holy, the minute doesn't work, they just move on to the next
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  weaker lane. Exactly, 100%.
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  That's the move. So a person has to realize it
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  comes to me dot. We can become obsessed even
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  though we're normal healthy people in this area can be
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  obsessed. And our job is to strengthen
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  ourselves in a way to push that out and keep us all strong.
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  And it makes overall much better me dot for yourself.
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  When you allow these people to control you, it makes them to a
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  bad person. No one says these guys get a
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  pass because hey, someone was in their mind.
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  They don't get a pass and they have, you don't get a pass from
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  reacting, you get a pass. You only get the, you know, the
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  credit If you cut them out, you cut their effect out and you
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  figure out a way to function beautifully by having an
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  understanding that they're a little bug.
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  They're trying to get you. You have your strength, you push
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  somewhere some of this.