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Master of Melodies Yossi Green's · None of Your Business Podcast

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  I have a song that I finished. It took me 20 years.
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  What? Yeah.
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  I have a song that I wrote that the first part was the MBD was
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  sitting next to me. He loved the first part.
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  Then whatever I did for the next 20 years, and I'll call him
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  Matra, could you come over? He lives a few houses away from
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  me. I think I got it and I don't
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  think so. 20 years and then I finished it.
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  Then Shulam Lambert grabbed it and recorded it and became one
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  of his biggest. None of your business.
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  Oshi, none of your business, Michael.
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  It's the None of Your Business podcast hosted by Michael and
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  Oshi. Guys, welcome back to another
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  incredible episode of the None of Your Business podcast.
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  I'm your host, Michael Greenfield joined with me as my
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  Co host, Oshi Schwartz. And today we have the guest of
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  guests, the creator of so many things in my life, in Oshi's
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  life, and in your life, None other than Rabiasi Green.
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  Welcome to the program. Thank you.
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  Can I just ask one? Can I come back next week?
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  You enjoying it already so much? You want another introduction.
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  You like it, right? It's very nice.
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  You, the 2 of you have a very beautiful energy and it just it
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  works. I really appreciate you saying
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  that. So one of the ways that we get
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  our listeners and our audience, you know, immediately known to
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  who the guest is, we have this little segment that we like to
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  call ChatGPT, said what? OK.
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  You're familiar with ChatGPT. Sure.
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  You've been using it at all? Recently.
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  Good. Yeah, 10 in the morning.
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  I I really got the first good shot out of it there.
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  I couldn't believe it. Did you ever use ChatGPT to look
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  yourself up? No.
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  So this is going to be fun. OK.
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  OK, great, because the reality is and everyone listening and
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  everyone watching knows you don't need an introduction, but
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  it is kind of fun to see what Chachi PT says about you and
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  from their perspective. So you are the composer, hit
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  maker, and secret sauce behind half of our favorite Jewish
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  songs. And that's the setting that it
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  says and it actually writes on the bottom.
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  He writes songs that make grown men weep, wedding bands rich and
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  spiritual seekers rethink their Spotify playlist.
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  OK, nicely done Chatri. That's a surprise, OK.
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  Yeah. Yeah, so, so I'll tell you, it
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  starts off also with he's got more hits than a Kugel at a
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  kiddish, over 700 songs composed.
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  I don't even know how Chatri PD would know about that.
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  That's a very old. Very old.
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  How many songs then? I've recorded Brooksham over
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  1050 song recorded. I actually want to know more
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  about the songs that you didn't compose.
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  That's right. So that's when you can ask me
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  for what my favorite composition is.
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  Other than your own. Is the answer the one that I
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  didn't write yet? That's that's the we were we had
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  a favorite conversation earlier. So I just wanted to continue on
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  the favorite. Back to what chat GPD says about
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  you. I actually didn't read this yet.
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  I asked Stefan to print it and it's.
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  I'm reading it live so you'll please excuse me if I'm saying
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  certain things that are. You know, no, no issues.
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  It's just shot GPD whatever, whatever you.
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  It's their opinion. Yes, yes, it's their opinion of
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  the facts. Exactly right.
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  It's the new way of life. He's basically the Jewish Quincy
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  Jones he composed for Avron Fried, Mordecai, Ben David,
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  Daddy Yakushwaki and even colour box style artist.
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  The man writes for everyone but somehow never repeats himself
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  unless you count his key changes.
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  OK, I. Know what that means?
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  Neither do I it. It doesn't really makes, it
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  doesn't make sense, but that's OK.
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  OK it doesn't have to make sense.
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  It's ChatGPT. It's like you know, it's still
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  no formal training. This one is surprising me as I'm
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  reading this right now. No formal training, just define
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  Wi-Fi. The man never studied
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  composition but hears music in his sleep and once said he he
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  composed this song while brushing his teeth.
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  Most people get plaque. He gets platinum.
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  Is that something that happened to you?
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  No, never my live. OK.
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  So that's nice. Thanks for the for For Nothing,
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  Tanya Anavim Adhurava Certified Soul Bangers.
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  Yes, yeah, yeah. What else comes to your mind
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  with soul bangers? Are those three good options to
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  choose from? Like to highlight some of your
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  your big hits? You can't I I don't I don't like
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  I don't like the word big hits. So, you know, I don't like to to
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  focus in. We discuss if we had a
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  conversation about favourites, it goes into favourites.
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  I I'm right now working on songs which I like better than all of
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  those songs together. Wow, so.
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  What's your vote on favourites? I will vote on that favorite is
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  my is the favorite is my least favorite word in the English
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  language. OK, I guess we're coming more
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  from a standpoint of what was well received in the
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  communities, like what people are attracted to in their, you
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  know, no, I'm actually asking those songs, no.
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  I'm actually asking what his. Favorite is as far as his.
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  Someone taught this to me a while ago and I shared this on
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  the podcast many episodes ago and I said someone we were in a
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  restaurant and someone asked what's your favorite music to
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  listen to? And I said it depends where I
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  am, right? So so I guess it depends where
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  you are also in terms of what your favorite, It's not just
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  about what the community looks at the favorite.
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  I actually genuinely want to know what his.
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  Favorite is. Yeah, sure.
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  What do you want to go to sleep with?
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  What do you want to wake up? What's the wedding song?
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  What's you're fluent in English, Hebrew, Yiddish, Aramaic, and
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  emotion? Wow.
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  OK, I believe that the man's lyrics are deep enough to be
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  taught in seminary and catchy enough for a 5 year old nephew
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  to scream in the backseat. OK.
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  That's pretty wide range right there.
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  That's great. One thing that I don't think
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  many people know about you is that you are the founder of
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  Gerry Medics because apparently he needed a side hustle from
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  composing the soundtrack of Heaven.
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  I have a partner, though I'm not one of the one of them.
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  Yeah, so one of the founders, your Co founder actually is
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  someone who I know well, and he's also in the music world.
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  I know he had some great hits. Heshi Rubin, AKA Harold, AKA the
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  man with the office. He always had a cool office on
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  the top, you know, overseeing the pit.
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  Yes, he did. And the rest of it honestly, is
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  stuff that are going to come out as we speak.
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  But I, I, I want to go back to the composing stuff, you know,
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  so it says here, you know, you talk about what you didn't
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  compose over 1000 songs that you compose, but many songs that you
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  didn't compose. I'm curious about that.
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  What goes on in your world, like how many songs you have that you
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  have not composed? What happens?
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  It just sits there with you. It it you created?
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  When you say compose, you mean recorded.
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  I can no. Just in your head you have a
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  song, you write it down, you no What happens.
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  No, it doesn't work that way. Please tell me what happens.
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  That's all I want to. Know so it's a very, very
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  intent, intent laden intent full practice.
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  It doesn't things don't fall in. You have these stories about
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  these rebels that were walking along in the woods and something
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  fell. Let me tell you don't think that
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  fell in that fell on me in the woods was not a song.
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  So you understand in other words, it's usually there's an
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  order somebody requests a song and then there's some kind of an
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  interview. I figure out where what that's a
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  separate discussion and then I sit down and I work and work and
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  work and work and can sometimes I'm lucky right away.
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  Sometimes it can take. I have a song that I finished.
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  It took me 20 years. What?
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  Yeah, I have a song that I wrote that the first part was the MBD
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  was sitting next to me. He's one of the guys in the,
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  you're probably in the in the ChatGPT thing.
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  And he loved the first part. And then I was and I wanted to
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  continue and I continued and whatever I did for the next 20
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  years, and I'll call him Matra. Could you come over?
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  He lives a few houses away from me.
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  I think I got it and I don't think so. 20 years.
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  Wow. And then I finished it and
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  Shulam Lamba grabbed it and recorded it and became one of
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  his biggest what? Was that?
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  It's called Kurtz Mehheimer. Mama Eli.
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  Wow. Yeah.
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  OK, I love it. You will when you're when you're
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  going to hear it, I think. But I I jump into the chat chief
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  PT, but it when we ended strong with Jerry medics, the minister.
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  Well, she and I are in the healthcare business.
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  OK, You know, she's not as much as a music fan in general as I
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  am. I'm probably going to blush the
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  entire time while you're here because as you're sitting here.
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  What can we do to make Oshie blush?
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  That's the exact question I wanted to get to.
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  OK, I want to turn to she think she.
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  How do you know him? How do?
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  What do you know about Yasi Green?
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  He's not. I don't.
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  Want to know him? I don't think there is a person
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  my age or even a little younger than me, but from the age 25 and
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  all that, it doesn't know who Yasi Green is.
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  He is just a a staple name in our extended communities.
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  Everybody across the globe that has any connection to Judaism
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  knows the name. They may not know how you look,
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  they may not know much about you, but they've heard of you,
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  they've heard of your music, they they've heard of your
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  talents. I actually don't know 100% if
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  you're more of a singer, composer, a little bit of if
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  you're a musician. I know that you're involved in
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  the music industry in a very, very big way.
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  You've been impactful for decades, so you've definitely
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  left your mark on the music industry and you did a very big
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  service to our community. We have so many songs that
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  connects everybody and keeps us all unified, so it's a beautiful
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  thing. So that's about the extent of
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  how much I know about you. I happen to also know that
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  you're involved in the healthcare industry.
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  I don't know to what extent that we've never really had direct
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  involvement, but I know that you're very successful in that
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  field as well. So I'm very curious how you
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  juggle both. How are you able to build a
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  pretty big business? Very Medics is not a family by
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  the night company. They're a pretty big company and
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  also have such a successful career in in the music industry.
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  Those are two full time jobs on on on its own.
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  So the fact that you're able to do both so well and on such a
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  global stage, I may add, is very impressive.
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  So I'm very curious about actually you, your history, how
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  you started when you actually be knew that you had this this
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  talent from music and started putting it into practice.
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  Like I'm curious how this all began.
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  Like where's the beginning of all of this?
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  That's what I'm curious about, yeah.
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  So do you do you? So you're asking me for the the
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  actual, the first song, the first writing, the first example
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  of writing that that happened? Let's.
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  Start with that. That's a great place.
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  I have to. I don't.
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  I don't, I want, I want to understand your question because
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  music, I guess I love music. Since I was a child, did I think
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  that I had any, any connection, unique connection to music more
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  so than anybody else? Definitely not.
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  I don't come from a place where we didn't have a lot of
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  confidence. There was not there was not a
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  lot of confidence building. Most of our confidence building
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  came later on in life. We didn't have like today,
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  everybody is constantly working, they're being therapeutically
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  helped along. And so I mean, I don't know to
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  what to, to what to what a veil, you know, whether it works or
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  not. But we kind of didn't have that.
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  So it was a total shock when when I came up with my first, my
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  first melody. And it was so it was so
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  embraced. I was, I didn't even understand
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  what it meant because I'd never gone to a concert.
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  I didn't know what it means when you do have, when you.
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  And what happens if so? If you have a good song, what
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  happens then? What do people do with the song?
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  I'd never seen a show. You know, it's you.
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  I think maybe because the two of you come from a world where all
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  of this thing had been already worked out.
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  There were shows, there were concerts, there were albums.
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  There were people who There were fan, there was a fan, there was
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  fandom. None of this stuff was around
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  when I when I was starting out. My parents didn't.
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  My parent, my mother, Alejo Schulman was a beautiful,
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  wonderful, incredible, classy lady.
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  Anna Hasidic lady. At the same time she loved
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  classical music and that's kind of the music that that there was
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  nothing else around. By the way, I tell everybody,
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  it's very strange. Sadly, the the world Karlbach, I
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  don't think I heard before, before I got married.
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  I don't think I've even heard the two syllables Karlbach
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  together. Later on in life I got to know
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  him and I learned something about about harvest his role
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  about love of of of Eden that that's a different story.
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  That's there's nothing to do with music.
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  My relationship with with him was it was just AI have a couple
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  of things that he told me that that he that I heard from him.
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  I think I'm the only one that I heard from him and so on, which
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  was which had a tremendous impact on my life.
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  And so I had nothing to do with music, though.
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  So your question as to you know, I when, when, when the person
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  that I wrote this song for jumped up and said, I this is it
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  this I'm going to take this. We're going to go to New York
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  and where I was, I was in London at the time.
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  I learned the London and he says, we're going to we're going
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  to put this on the show and the show.
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  What is he? Talking about how?
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  How old were you then? I was exactly 18 years old.
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  OK. And where were you?
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  I was in London, OK, I was in London and I was miserable.
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  Isn't everybody in London miserable?
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  I'm glad. Am I glad that you said it.
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  So. OK, so I was hoping for Ashy to
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  say it. Let me tell you something.
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  I I can go on for an hour about this, but everybody should
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  remember that. Oh, she's the one who said it.
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  I'm just, I'm just elaborating. Water in here and.
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  Thank you. Yes, I was going to ask.
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  You. Yes, please.
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  Please. I mean, it is raining a lot in
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  London, you know. Maine.
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  So the environment doesn't help, you know, set the mood, that's
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  for sure. There was a driving on the wrong
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  side of the road. Someone could probably tell
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  them. Yes, I failed by driving test a
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  number of times. But anyway, so, so to get back
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  to your question, to your answer to your question, to answer your
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  question, so there was one incredible artist around at the
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  time. His name was Igal Salek.
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  Igal Salek had had came up with this idea of putting kids very
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  good looking kids, kids with great voices, kids with great
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  personalities because he would speak to them, he would
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  interview them on stage. So it wasn't just it was he had
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  a real show because everybody who was, you know, they came
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  from families that did instill tremendous amount of confidence
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  in these kids. And so he he put out an album, I
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  think the first album and then he put out the second album and
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  I listened to it and it was wow. It was something that combined
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  all of classical music and, and European music and Broadway.
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  And it didn't sound anything like like like the Alta Rebbe
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  songs, you know? And it was very, very, very
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  Yiddish, very Jewish, very new. And, and every song that was
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  every text had a message. You know, we grew up with a lot
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  of texts that didn't mean a lot to us until we got older, like,
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  you know, Ranunut Saadiq and Basham Legend.
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  OK. I mean, at this stage, you
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  probably doesn't have much meaning the, the, these things
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  you're going to come back to when you're much, much older,
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  you're going to, in the beginning, you're going to go
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  for the, the strange texts, right?
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  So he came up with all these strange texts and he, he was a
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  Navi teacher. He taught Navi in a, in a, in a,
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  in a elementary school. So he knew Navi very well and he
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  would write songs on Navi talking about Shiah and about
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  prophecy and which was something that didn't exist.
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  And as a matter of fact, I remember MBD the first time that
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  I saw a show when I realized already what a show is.
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  And MBD at that time was Mordechai Werdeger.
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  It was not MBD, ladies and gentlemen, Mordechai Werdeger.
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  And he was opening up for the kids that were getting ready,
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  getting dressed and the, and the place was full, thousands of
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  people waiting for the kids and they would say no, no, they
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  would like get it. No.
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  And it was like, I would be embarrassed for him because he
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  was trying to launch his career. And he was the opening act for
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  for London. I mean, he became the biggest
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  act that we ever had, you know, but so I'm talking about in
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  those years. Anyway, this eagle solid was
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  some strange reason. I was, I'm not going to say some
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  strange reason. It was obviously, but shared.
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  I I went to yeshiva every night and I thought it was winter and
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  I lived in an attic of a relative of mine.
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  They had had 99 kids downstairs and they had an old attic full
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  of boxes and, you know, one of those old attics and and the.
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  Ones where you put the American cousin.
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  Where you put all the exact? Well, yeah.
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  And they had like a bed in the corner.
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  And that's where I, that's where I slept.
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  And so I would come in at at 8 O clock at night.
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  What would I do? There was nothing to read.
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  There was no Khalil of a house. There was nothing really nothing
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  to watch. I went upstairs to my room and I
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  sat on my bed and it wasn't a very, you know, London to begin
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  with was a difficult time anyway.
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  And, and, and I started clearing up the boxes once and I saw
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  under all the boxes there was an old piano.
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  Well, you know, with, with, with keys that look like this, you
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  know, like, you know those keys, you know.
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  The dead keys. Those were monkeys, dead
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  monkeys. Higher monkey is swollen because
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  they didn't take the water off when they, when they spilled
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  water on and so on, you know, and I began with one finger 22
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  bang around and I came up with a, with an, with something a, a,
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  a like a formulaic melody, which I, I was, I would bang out.
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  And then what happened was this woman of the house was very
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  sensitive to me. She realized what's going on.
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  She realized that I'm coming home at night and what the hell
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  am I doing up there? So she did something, she went
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  and she got the ego salad's phone number and she called him
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  up and she said, Eagle, I need a favor from you.
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  Who are you? You're asking me favors.
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  He didn't do that. He was listening to her.
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  And he says, look, she says, look, I have a relative here
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  from from America and he's here and he he comes home from
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  yeshiva at night. He doesn't know.
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  I think he's also musical. I hear him banging around on on
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  the on the keyboard over there down the piano.
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  Maybe you want to come over here and just be his friend.
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  That's bold. So wonderful.
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  I was just thinking, I always tell.
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  Beautiful. I always, I always tell people,
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  could you imagine if somebody would call me up or, or she, you
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  or hims imagine that. Hi Michael, could you do me a
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  favor? I have a, I have a relative here
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  from London and he's like, he's a 1718 year old boy.
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  And he said maybe you want to come over and be his friend.
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  You'd say sure, oh, I'm going to drop everything immediately.
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  I'll be over in 5 minutes. Right?
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  He did. He came over.
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  Yeah. I hear the door open up and I
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  and I and, and the lady says to me, y'all see?
• 18:16
  Did you come down there? You have a guest, You have a
• 18:18
  guest. And I walk down and I say, how
• 18:20
  did I know what he looked like? Because on the cover of of the
• 18:23
  albums in those days the the albums were big and you had
• 18:26
  pictures and you would study those pictures.
• 18:28
  And it was like a record. It was.
• 18:29
  A it was a record and you would you would that's where you got
• 18:31
  all the information or you read every single word and you looked
• 18:35
  at every face and every child that was there.
• 18:37
  You imagined yourself being that child.
• 18:39
  I mean, that was it. That was the entire culture that
• 18:42
  a Jewish boy had. Forget.
• 18:44
  There was no Hask. There was no camps.
• 18:46
  We didn't go to camp. You know, it's and I see him
• 18:50
  standing there and he says, hey, Yossi, come on down, let's go
• 18:53
  for a drive. And from then we became
• 18:55
  incredible, incredible friends. And he found out that I went to
• 18:58
  Shiva and Schlesinger's, which was yeshiva serrama.
• 19:01
  The rush Shiva is still alive. God bless him.
• 19:03
  He shouldn't live through. He's a Talmud of, of, of I think
• 19:06
  either Shimishka or one of those he's you talking about.
• 19:09
  He's can I know her? He's on the other side of, of,
• 19:13
  of of this century. Can I know her and he's he said
• 19:17
  he regards recently his his a nickel his ear a nickel lives a
• 19:20
  couple of hours away from me and he went to Pesach and he asked
• 19:24
  by the way, I have a neighbor who says that he that he learned
• 19:26
  in your Shiva says really what's his name tells him my name.
• 19:29
  He says sure, tell him send him my best regards.
• 19:32
  He remembers. You he, he remembers me.
• 19:34
  It's unbelievable. I was and, and and he would,
• 19:38
  what he would do is he would say, what are you doing in the
• 19:40
  evenings? I said, well, I don't know why I
• 19:43
  was not so kind by him. Most of the nights I'd come out
• 19:47
  at 8:00 from the yeshiva, it would be a car parked, the
• 19:50
  passenger door was open and he would be standing like that and
• 19:54
  he would say, you're coming literally like that.
• 19:56
  That was his personality anyway. He was a tremendous developer
• 20:01
  of, of, of, of souls. He was he.
• 20:03
  Didn't even know who you were at the.
• 20:05
  No. No clue.
• 20:06
  Nothing. There was nothing to know about.
• 20:07
  Nothing. I had to cross the pairs and.
• 20:10
  What moment did you guys start realizing that there's something
• 20:12
  there with the? Because the conversation we had
• 20:16
  a a small podcast. In the car.
• 20:20
  Exactly, that's what it was like.
• 20:21
  Of course, that's what it was like with the real conversation.
• 20:23
  And he took me home to his house and he was talking.
• 20:25
  I would eat with the, with his, at his table many times already
• 20:28
  dinner with the other bunch of little kids and, and, and one
• 20:31
  day he disappeared for two weeks.
• 20:33
  And I became, you have to understand, I, I, I got hooked
• 20:36
  on him because this was my, this was my program.
• 20:39
  I came over from yeshiva and most of the time I would go to
• 20:42
  him. I still don't understand it how
• 20:44
  that made sense today. It would it would be frowned
• 20:46
  upon. What does this mean?
• 20:48
  This person is taking you home to his family and you know, and
• 20:53
  once he disappeared for two weeks, he did disappeared.
• 20:57
  He didn't come for two weeks. I thought maybe he's.
• 20:59
  He's done. With you, that's it.
• 21:00
  There was no phones. You have to understand you
• 21:02
  couldn't find out information. Information was you basically
• 21:06
  went there and you came in person.
• 21:08
  He wasn't there and I didn't know where he lived.
• 21:10
  I used to take me by car, so and I had no time.
• 21:12
  I had no claims to his relationship, you know, and two
• 21:16
  weeks went by and that's when I did this banging more and more.
• 21:23
  And he comes home and he says and he calls the house on a
• 21:26
  Friday and he asks if he can speak to me.
• 21:28
  Yes. Would you come over to for, for
• 21:31
  lunch? Shab, this Shabbos, I'm sorry.
• 21:33
  I was away for two weeks. I was in New York.
• 21:35
  I'm trying to work out my next group of shows.
• 21:38
  Sure. I was excited.
• 21:39
  I went and I I went there for I went to the meal.
• 21:43
  I said, where were you? What happened to you?
• 21:44
  He says, well, I went to sign up with Nagin Orchestra, which was
• 21:49
  then the only first Jewish successful orchestra.
• 21:53
  And I, I, I signed a, a contract with four shows.
• 21:58
  It was a Hanukkah. It was Musta Shabba Sunday
• 22:00
  night, Musta Shabba Sunday night, four nights.
• 22:03
  These councils would sell out the day you would and, and, and
• 22:06
  don't forget, there was no, there was no social media there.
• 22:10
  There there was one ad you would put in the Jewish press older
• 22:14
  show there would be 10 or 11,000 seats all sold out you.
• 22:17
  Would have to call in to. You would have buy a ticket, no
• 22:19
  call in, call in came that was already sophisticated.
• 22:22
  You'd have to go to Focus Electronic.
• 22:24
  That was the place. Wow, where was that on 14?
• 22:26
  Was on the corner, I'm sorry. There was the corner of 13th and
• 22:28
  and 46th St. Wow.
• 22:31
  Interesting. And you and they had this
• 22:32
  envelope. Today I'm assuming, or Thursday
• 22:34
  it's done because this paper comes out Tuesday and sold out.
• 22:36
  Sold out and people would pay cash and he he would have to put
• 22:39
  the in into there's no credit cards, right?
• 22:42
  Do you understand that? So it was envelopes.
• 22:44
  These are the $100 tickets. These are the $50 tickets.
• 22:46
  And they'll give you yourself. You paid for it on the spot.
• 22:48
  Exactly that that was the and and so he tells me I'm I'm I'm
• 22:52
  very happy, but at the same time I'm very down.
• 22:55
  I said what? Why are you down?
• 22:57
  He says. Because they told me on the
• 22:59
  condition I've done this already this my third year, they want to
• 23:02
  hear new songs. They don't want the same songs.
• 23:05
  You have hits, but you got to bring the material.
• 23:08
  And so and I, we stayed together, Thomas Shabas and
• 23:11
  after Abdullah, and he's sitting on one of these chairs in the
• 23:14
  corner and I see he's, he's got a sour face and, and I'm
• 23:18
  sitting, he has a piano now. I love to sit next to pianos.
• 23:21
  I never, I never had a piano until I got married.
• 23:24
  My wife bought me my first piano, so I just would sit on
• 23:28
  the on the piano bench. Like if you had over here 2
• 23:31
  chairs and a piano bench with a piano, I would sit here with my
• 23:35
  back. I for some strange, strange
• 23:38
  reason, always felt like I wanted to be next to the piano.
• 23:41
  So I would always sit there a little piano, not, not one of
• 23:43
  these pianos, you know, and, and, and he's complaining.
• 23:47
  He says, you know, yes, you're so musical.
• 23:49
  If you would have songs, then I would all my all my problems
• 23:53
  would be solid. He says you never tried to to
• 23:56
  write a song or something. I said write a song.
• 23:58
  I didn't even use the word write a song.
• 24:01
  Write a song is a sophisticated way of saying composition.
• 24:04
  I don't know what to make. You never made a song, you know,
• 24:08
  So I said no, but you never tried.
• 24:10
  Come on, you, you the the lady told me you're what are you
• 24:13
  banging around on the piano? I said, you want me to I'm I'm
• 24:16
  embarrassed. Don't be embarrassed.
• 24:17
  I turned around and I began to play this this melody.
• 24:22
  You know when star was born. I'm telling you he jumped up
• 24:27
  from the chair and he ran over to me ran over to the to the
• 24:31
  storm Shank took out a homish and he opened up partials by he
• 24:35
  impartials by he by the Ani bevoy me Padanaram Maisie Olai
• 24:40
  Rocco remember where where Yaakov is is apologizing to
• 24:44
  Yosef that that that I couldn't your mother.
• 24:47
  I couldn't take care of her. I'm asking you to take care of
• 24:50
  me even though I couldn't get into Israel.
• 24:52
  I couldn't get her to her and she passed away right outside
• 24:55
  and I had to bury her. This is a very sad.
• 24:57
  I remember as a child, this is we, we used to get very
• 25:00
  emotional and the big Rashi and the Rashi says, don't worry that
• 25:04
  what's going to happen is in the end of time, Rahul is going to
• 25:08
  be on the on the path when the Jews are going to sadly be be
• 25:11
  sent away from Israel. They're going to stop off at
• 25:14
  her, at her grave and they're going to cry and she will cry
• 25:17
  along with them and call Barack, call baraman ishma nahi bahi
• 25:21
  samarim rakhmavaka Albania Mein Ali nacham kainen.
• 25:25
  And he is, I had no idea that words go with song, you know?
• 25:29
  And he started OK again, again and he started screaming.
• 25:33
  He became a Sergeant. Until that moment, our
• 25:36
  relationship was like, you know, again, again, do it again.
• 25:40
  I said, do it, do it again. Just no, no, stop from the
• 25:42
  beginning. Do it again.
• 25:43
  And he became like, like, you know, and I did it again and
• 25:46
  again and again. And he was, he was crouched on
• 25:48
  on his knees and he was thinking about the words called barama
• 25:50
  back and forth again. Slower, faster.
• 25:53
  No slower. He didn't know.
• 25:54
  He wanted, he wanted in a different beat.
• 25:58
  I did it in a beat of four and he wanted the beat of three.
• 26:01
  And he kept on telling me do it slower.
• 26:03
  He didn't realize that it's not slower or faster, just a
• 26:05
  different rhythm, a different timing.
• 26:07
  And I didn't know that either. You know, I kept on and so was
• 26:11
  born the song called Burama, which is a very big hit song
• 26:13
  today. That was your first that.
• 26:14
  Was my first song. And you made it on the fly with
• 26:17
  this gentleman on a piano in his house, and you barely know how
• 26:21
  to play at this. Point I still I still I still
• 26:24
  don't know how to play. That's not funny.
• 26:27
  I don't know how to play. I've seen you play quite.
• 26:30
  Good, I would love to not play how you not.
• 26:32
  Can I just tell you a vignette about this playing something I
• 26:36
  think you'll find interesting? I've performed on the piano.
• 26:39
  Notice I don't say play because I don't play piano.
• 26:42
  I perform on the piano basically in in probably every major venue
• 26:48
  in the world, whether it's the Paris Opera House or the Zurich,
• 26:54
  whatever. What's it called?
• 26:55
  The Ray? I forgot the the biggest the
• 26:57
  biggest opera houses. With chat chief PT, by the way,
• 27:00
  you can look up what it's called.
• 27:01
  Yeah, he's on it already, you see.
• 27:03
  Yes. Steph, he's already all.
• 27:05
  Over it and always there's a big piano, 9 foot grand piano.
• 27:09
  He's the funniest joke in the world. 9 foot grand, you know,
• 27:12
  costing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
• 27:15
  And Green comes out on the side, I'm supposed to sit and I'm
• 27:20
  always looking. And I see in the, in the, in
• 27:22
  the, in the orchestra, there's a real pianist who never worked
• 27:26
  his whole life, 4050 years of practice, day and night.
• 27:29
  He gave up all kinds of sports to be there, to be at right?
• 27:33
  And, and, and I'm always feeling guilty.
• 27:34
  And when they have a moment, I walk over to the guys and
• 27:37
  listen. You're probably going to hear
• 27:39
  some strange stuff tonight on the piano.
• 27:41
  You're probably going to wonder what what's going on here?
• 27:45
  What is this a joke? Why is he why is that guy
• 27:47
  sitting in the front on the 9 foot grand?
• 27:50
  I said, I want you to know you're not going to understand
• 27:51
  it, but it's it's connections, OK?
• 27:57
  And I do this everywhere because I always have this, this this
• 28:00
  crazy feeling. These guys are working all their
• 28:03
  lives. And so I don't play the piano.
• 28:05
  Yeah. It comes naturally to you.
• 28:07
  Well, yeah, but. It's in your soul.
• 28:09
  I'm actually curious about that. Do you ever play the piano?
• 28:12
  I play the piano all the time, right?
• 28:13
  But I, I play it but I but I, I can't play piano, right?
• 28:17
  Yeah, anyway. Wow.
• 28:19
  So this is the beginning of the journey.
• 28:22
  This is where it this is where it happened.
• 28:25
  And the song is one of the biggest hits today.
• 28:27
  And he used that song in his concert.
• 28:29
  He oh boy, did he use that. Song.
• 28:31
  He used that song and that catapulted.
• 28:32
  Him as well. That that that got him the next
• 28:35
  set of concerts and it got him to the next.
• 28:37
  So if he was a smart man, he would have locked you in and
• 28:39
  licensed you at that point. Nobody thought thought like that
• 28:42
  in those days. Locked, licensed, none of that
• 28:44
  stuff, you know, So it was a very Jewish idea that we're not,
• 28:50
  you know, you know, MBD, you know, people ask me what's his
• 28:53
  Hiddish, you know, you know what the Hiddish of MBD is the real
• 28:56
  true essence of MBD. He's the first yid that
• 29:00
  performed with the microphone facing the audience.
• 29:03
  You know that our our stars, our performers, when we see them, we
• 29:09
  see the back of their talus. We don't really.
• 29:11
  We never had a guy facing an audience with the mic.
• 29:15
  He's the first person that turned around and faced an
• 29:18
  audience with the microphone, so that's how far.
• 29:20
  It wasn't just a song that he was singing.
• 29:21
  Yeah, also that he was. Connecting with you.
• 29:23
  Exactly. And the whole idea that that he
• 29:25
  faced 1000 people and no, no, he'd ever did that.
• 29:29
  No from he'd ever did that in those years.
• 29:32
  So he had to. That's why he's so many.
• 29:33
  Because he came father for a reason.
• 29:35
  He was a trailblazer. But these are the these are the
• 29:37
  reasons why is a trailblazer. People don't understand king.
• 29:40
  He's the king because he most of what we have in in this whole
• 29:44
  came from him really well today. It's it's sophisticated beyond
• 29:47
  beyond beyond. But anyway.
• 29:50
  I have to say you're saying but anyway, but you know, I'm
• 29:52
  getting chills as I'm hearing you speak.
• 29:56
  That song is obviously. Does that mean he likes it?
• 30:00
  I I can't, I don't know yet. He.
• 30:02
  Doesn't hate it. That song is obviously not only
• 30:04
  one of my favorite songs. I know I speak on behalf of
• 30:07
  everyone listening. That's their favorite song in
• 30:10
  many, many different ways, Meaning it's a favorite song to
• 30:13
  hear at certain times, certain, you know, during, you know,
• 30:16
  during the 9 days, during the three weeks, you know, what
• 30:18
  happens to be we're in the three weeks right now.
• 30:20
  To hear a story like that is very moving for me.
• 30:23
  I have to tell you, I'm, I'm emotional.
• 30:25
  I'm, I'm appreciating that story.
• 30:27
  I mean, I've learned to listen over the past 50 plus podcasts,
• 30:31
  but appreciating to listen and hearing such a story.
• 30:34
  I'm moved by it and it's really beautiful and just what a what a
• 30:37
  beginning. Yeah.
• 30:39
  I'm gonna strip gears from that. If if I may, I'm sorry.
• 30:42
  Give me, give me 5 more seconds I'm.
• 30:44
  I'm hearing the emotional part from you, but I know it's.
• 30:46
  Hard for you, but I want to get into.
• 30:47
  Because he needs help. Give me 5 more seconds.
• 30:49
  Yeah. He needs healthcare, yeah.
• 30:51
  No, no, he wants to be able to go to healthcare.
• 30:53
  No, I understand. I wanted to go to hell Give.
• 30:55
  Me a minute. Give me.
• 30:56
  Go ahead, go ahead, I. Just want 5 seconds.
• 30:58
  Sure, sure. Wow, that was absolutely
• 31:02
  beautiful. And I relive it.
• 31:04
  And by the way, you're, I, you know, I, I think I mentioned
• 31:06
  this to you earlier that one of the beauties of a, of a podcast
• 31:11
  for the person who's being interviewed, if he has Saiful,
• 31:15
  is that if he has a good interviewer, the interviewer
• 31:17
  brings out things, feelings that would not come out unless you
• 31:21
  get asked these kind of questions in this kind of a
• 31:23
  setting. So I'm also looking at OSHA and
• 31:25
  looking at you and, and kind of seeing the way you're reacting
• 31:29
  makes me realize what what what a gift that was.
• 31:32
  That was a gift from the wrench line.
• 31:33
  That first song is here. Take that's so beautiful.
• 31:36
  They can build a life with it. Before she gets so I'm sorry
• 31:39
  you. Planted a seed.
• 31:40
  You planted a seed and it grew in a blossom.
• 31:42
  Yeah, something beautiful. I said 5 seconds, but I'm a
• 31:44
  salesman. I sold you on the five seconds.
• 31:46
  Hopefully I can get you on a little bit more.
• 31:48
  I I can't let you go to Oshi's question, his next topic, until
• 31:51
  you tell me something from Kolobach.
• 31:53
  I'm sorry. I'm very connected to you.
• 31:54
  I'm very connected to her Shlomo.
• 31:57
  It's it's part of my life every Shabbos.
• 31:59
  It's part of my life almost every I have an Arab Shabbos
• 32:02
  Kalabach playlist, the Yakoshweki Kalabach melody.
• 32:06
  There's so much beauty from that from my perspective of just
• 32:08
  listening, right, just a fan. And I go to the, you know, he's
• 32:11
  buried next to my dad. I go and visit him all the time.
• 32:14
  And I met him one time and I said the story already on the
• 32:17
  podcast. I'm not going to bore you with
• 32:18
  the story, but the point is that I want to go back to that.
• 32:21
  You said I don't know if I want to mention.
• 32:23
  It I'll tell you, I'll tell you. Thank you.
• 32:27
  Unbelievable, unbelievable. So the the first time I actually
• 32:31
  met him is I used to perform the Post Karlbach show in the at
• 32:39
  Przanski's Pesach program. Which means no such a thing
• 32:42
  existed, by the way. Yes, because.
• 32:45
  Yeah, because. So in other words, the the show
• 32:46
  ended at 11:30. Supposed to right?
• 32:49
  Of course Karlbach would go to 12/12, 12:30, you know, because
• 32:52
  people didn't want to let him leave.
• 32:54
  And so, and he was in the big room, the room that had
• 32:57
  thousands or so seats. And then there were these little
• 32:59
  rooms, one that was like a little nightclub type of room
• 33:03
  where I'd be sitting there with the piano with about 100 chairs
• 33:06
  waiting for people to come. And nobody would come because
• 33:09
  everybody was waiting was what nobody wanted to leave.
• 33:12
  And he, they wouldn't let him go.
• 33:13
  And he, you know, and after a while I said to myself, look,
• 33:16
  I'm just sitting, it's nothing happening.
• 33:18
  So I decided I'm going to I'm going to go.
• 33:21
  I'll go into the I want to show you about me.
• 33:22
  This of a person who had nothing.
• 33:25
  I was a nothing to I was a little stinker next to him.
• 33:28
  I wasn't, I wasn't so young, but but in terms of being as known.
• 33:33
  Right. Professional.
• 33:34
  You're professional. Do you?
• 33:35
  I was hired to kind of do the do the, the lobby, the lobby job.
• 33:39
  You know, this was the lobby job I did.
• 33:41
  OK, not hired. That's what I got.
• 33:42
  I got some of the rooms of Pesach to be able to go away
• 33:45
  with my family and I see nobody is nobody's coming.
• 33:48
  So I said, you know what, let me go see what this car look is all
• 33:51
  about. I, I, I know that he's there and
• 33:53
  he's in the room and what's the point?
• 33:54
  So I go into the room and I open up the door and there's this
• 33:59
  huge, I, I don't know if it was in Kutcher's or one of these
• 34:02
  big, big, there are over 1000 a 1500 seats.
• 34:07
  You'll be surprised at what fits into that.
• 34:10
  And, and as soon as I walk into the room, I opened the door and
• 34:13
  apparently the light was shining on me.
• 34:16
  And he's in the middle of playing a song and he stops the
• 34:18
  guitar and he says, he says my, my brothers and sisters,
• 34:24
  whatever he said, they says, I want to tell you something.
• 34:27
  A person just walked into this room who when I get the chills
• 34:30
  when I when I when Mushiya comes, his songs will be sung
• 34:35
  when Mushiya comes. Stop it.
• 34:37
  I'm, I'm, I'm serious, but first of all, I was overcome.
• 34:41
  Second of all, I was wondering, how does he know me?
• 34:43
  How does he got anything to do with me?
• 34:45
  Does he any, they ever heard a song of mine?
• 34:46
  I mean, this guy was very busy and he was running around trying
• 34:49
  to make Pernosa Anthony McCarthy, but he didn't have the
• 34:51
  time to sit down and listen to other people's music, you know,
• 34:54
  So whether he understood that I'm following him and that I'm
• 35:00
  probably waiting and that I'm I'm going to have a little tiny
• 35:04
  show compared to his. And he this was his way of just
• 35:07
  giving to somebody who is which I know I was totally done.
• 35:11
  Just please come. I, I I wasn't like a deer in the
• 35:14
  headlights. What do I do?
• 35:15
  I'm in the back of the room. Come, do me a favor.
• 35:17
  I'm still I'll be finished soon. But come, come, come, sit down
• 35:20
  over here. Next thing.
• 35:21
  Come. You want to come?
• 35:21
  No, no, no, no, I want to stay here.
• 35:23
  What am I going to do on stage? I don't know.
• 35:25
  You know, I and I sat down and, you know, over the over there
• 35:28
  next time. And he finished the next song
• 35:30
  and he walks me to the other one.
• 35:34
  He tells everyone, by the way, if you want to hear some really,
• 35:37
  really special songs, I recommend he doesn't have a
• 35:40
  band. It's just him and the piano.
• 35:41
  Go inside and then listen to him.
• 35:43
  You'll have a wonderful time. Which is anyway, I got to know
• 35:46
  him like a day or so later, I met him again.
• 35:50
  When we sat down, we were speaking.
• 35:51
  I said, look, I want to thank you very much for yesterday.
• 35:53
  I mean, you really, we didn't even know each other.
• 35:55
  You have such a the way you the way.
• 35:57
  He says he gives me a kiss because, because, because,
• 35:59
  because I love you. What do you mean?
• 36:01
  But don't you understand about that, which was also something
• 36:04
  which I, I, you know, I'd, I'd never heard it said the way he
• 36:08
  said it. And then we, we got to talk a
• 36:10
  little bit about, about my background, the Yiddish guide
• 36:12
  and so on. Then he says we were talking
• 36:15
  about the, about growing up in Williamsburg and, and, and they
• 36:17
  says to me, what is the thing that that scares you, that
• 36:22
  bothers you the most about about the Yiddish guide about the I
• 36:27
  said seriously. And yeah, just tell me, tell me.
• 36:29
  I want to hear. So I said, look, you know, Vas,
• 36:31
  we we Winniesburg Shydish LL, you could feel the street
• 36:34
  trembling already. You literally imagined that the
• 36:37
  street was already people go around.
• 36:38
  Nobody would smile. He was walking on the street
• 36:41
  like that, like, you know, like very, very, very serious today.
• 36:45
  It's not like that. I'm come from a time and it was
• 36:47
  a very, very serious time. So the entire LL was we as
• 36:50
  young, young kids, we didn't really know what's to be scared
• 36:53
  about, but we looked at these adults, they were so frightened.
• 36:56
  Something very scary is, is, is happening now, you know, and
• 37:01
  nobody calmed us down and would say relax.
• 37:03
  So this was this was part of the the way we the way we grew up.
• 37:07
  And he smiles and he says, I want to tell you something.
• 37:10
  He says, Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur should be your most
• 37:14
  happiest day in the world. I said, and and the happiest day
• 37:19
  of the year. I said, what do you mean?
• 37:21
  This is everybody is crying, he says.
• 37:25
  He says people don't realize Yom Kippur is not a Yom to for
• 37:28
  Sadiqam. Sadiqam have Yom to for a whole
• 37:31
  year. God has one day, one day he like
• 37:34
  he's missing all those precious Eden that he doesn't see the
• 37:38
  entire year. He doesn't see them.
• 37:40
  So he came up with one day and and and and he said come to me.
• 37:44
  Come. I said you're afraid of the
• 37:46
  Sutton. Don't worry about it.
• 37:47
  Sutton is on vacation that I'm not listening.
• 37:49
  I don't care what you did to hold you.
• 37:50
  I don't want to hear anything today.
• 37:52
  I just want to see you. So he says people come.
• 37:55
  He says that Sadiq and some of the hijacked this Yontiff.
• 37:58
  He says it's not there. Yontiff.
• 38:00
  They should sit in the back and all these Eden that come once
• 38:03
  you should really be sitting in the front.
• 38:05
  I'm I'm I'm editorializing to explain expanding and he says,
• 38:10
  and you know what the biggest proof of this is?
• 38:12
  He says, you know, what's the first thing you say when you
• 38:14
  walk into shul? And there in Kipper, I'm
• 38:17
  thinking he goes al dasa Malcolm al dasa call only Matiran as
• 38:21
  Altman Matiran Liz Paolo in Abarian.
• 38:24
  He says, you know what Avarian are?
• 38:25
  He says you think in Avarian is somebody who doesn't put on the
• 38:28
  baby Tom still Alvarian is somebody who's never he's not
• 38:33
  connected a whole year. This is the opening of Yom
• 38:36
  Kippur says you open this beautiful big Marzer and
• 38:39
  everybody stands up the and and we tell everybody, please, this
• 38:44
  is a Yom Tup for Aber Yom. Come on, welcome, open your arms
• 38:48
  and beautiful. You should know every single Yom
• 38:52
  Kippur since then. I walk in.
• 38:53
  I say, hey, hey, come on, by the way, I fall someplace in
• 38:56
  between. I'm going to borrow from that
• 38:58
  because I used to always be nervous about Yom Kippur or
• 39:00
  Shoshanna, you know, I hear in my head.
• 39:04
  You got to make a song about this, make a song about this,
• 39:10
  and then he's going to tell people later that we inspired
• 39:13
  him to make this. We could get in.
• 39:15
  I'm the act over here, Michael. What?
• 39:19
  Would come to your mind. It's it's it's I don't know.
• 39:24
  I would have to to to to what? What am I?
• 39:27
  What am I feeling? To who?
• 39:29
  You said the story, now what are you feeling?
• 39:30
  What are you feeling? How does it look?
• 39:33
  Beautiful. I'm feeling that that Yom Kippur
• 39:34
  is a day that that Akudeshwar who gave the Sutton a day off
• 39:40
  not because of the Siddiqam, he said.
• 39:41
  Siddiqam, they have nothing. They're nothing to worry about.
• 39:43
  The Sutton. Yeah.
• 39:44
  They behave the whole the entire year.
• 39:46
  What do we have to worry about? Yeah, let him be, I hope.
• 39:48
  You take her, she's. A It's an opportunity for a
• 39:49
  second transfer. Yeah, that's all right.
• 39:51
  It's beautiful, those words. Come once a year, he says.
• 39:54
  I miss you. I know you're afraid to come.
• 39:56
  A whole year come. This is the day I made for you.
• 39:58
  You imagine making a song about something that's so scary,
• 40:01
  that's beautiful. I like that idea.
• 40:02
  You tone it down, you tone it down, you give them a different
• 40:04
  perspective. My 5 seconds are I'm glad.
• 40:06
  I'm very curious about how this whole business works OK and how
• 40:10
  it's monetized and how people make a living from this.
• 40:12
  You're. Talking about business of music.
• 40:15
  Yeah, It's my understanding that the music business isn't very
• 40:17
  lucrative for people and they do it mostly out of passion.
• 40:20
  And the real money is, I guess if you get gigs and you start
• 40:23
  singing at night and you start getting asking a big amounts,
• 40:26
  you know, come and sing an event, the bigger events to pay
• 40:28
  you more. Now that's really how you kind
• 40:30
  of make money. But you're really more on the
• 40:32
  composing side. Yes, you sing and you've done it
• 40:34
  many times, concerts. I remember as a kid watching the
• 40:38
  Hask concert, which was to me, I watched that 10 times.
• 40:42
  I watched it over and over. There wasn't a lot that we were
• 40:44
  watching back then. Sure, it wasn't a lot available,
• 40:46
  especially as a, you know, from Jewish kid growing up, we had
• 40:49
  limited choices to what we can watch just with something that
• 40:51
  our parents let us watch. And I would watch it all the
• 40:53
  time. And I remember you on the piano
• 40:55
  and I remember you singing with some other singers.
• 40:56
  I remember who was you were. Singing always.
• 40:58
  It was always doing the best. I'm reshuffling the.
• 41:00
  Same. And you have a very unique type
• 41:02
  of voice. You have a very different kind
• 41:03
  of voice. And it was very powerful and was
• 41:05
  very, I remember it years later. I took about 20-30 years later,
• 41:07
  I remember it, I really do. But I'm very curious, what was
• 41:10
  the first time that was like commercialized for you that you
• 41:13
  became a brand that everybody got to know who Yossi Green is,
• 41:17
  that he's somebody to be reckoned with.
• 41:19
  He's he's asked two different. Questions you asked about the
• 41:21
  monetization of it, I want to 1st and then you spoke something
• 41:23
  about a brand. The brand is something else.
• 41:26
  I want to get to the monetization in in a minute, but
• 41:28
  first I wanted to take a step back.
• 41:30
  What was that first time that you remember that it became
• 41:32
  official? It became, let's call it a bit
• 41:34
  business because now, you know, people needed you people.
• 41:37
  What were were you were sought after.
• 41:40
  You weren't looking for ever 2. They were finding you now
• 41:42
  because you became known as a big composer and people wanted
• 41:45
  your attention. What was that first moment that
• 41:46
  really broke you out, that made you, you know, next level?
• 41:50
  So we we kind of happened together.
• 41:54
  The, the, the, the, the business was built around at the time I
• 42:00
  started writing of Remel started singing, the, the, the arrangers
• 42:06
  started writing. It all happened.
• 42:08
  You know, I tell people this all the time.
• 42:09
  They get tired of hearing it, but it's true.
• 42:12
  I was born in 1955, which was a little under 10 years after the
• 42:16
  Holocaust. You have to have to say what
• 42:18
  that means. What does that mean?
• 42:19
  And as a child, I was very sensitive to this.
• 42:21
  Claudia Stewart was not singing at that time.
• 42:24
  They didn't sing. They cried.
• 42:26
  They didn't sing Mim Kleimka. Every Mim Kleimka was, was a
• 42:29
  cry. It wasn't sing.
• 42:30
  There was no happiness even even at at at a mid to dance.
• 42:39
  It was there's an there's an undercurrent of of pain, pain,
• 42:46
  pain and tears. And you're kidding.
• 42:47
  We made it to the mid to dance. Nobody Commander slam busted up
• 42:51
  the wedding. Hopefully these Jewish couples
• 42:53
  going to exit from here and they're going to start a life.
• 42:55
  And, you know, everything was like the people around were
• 42:58
  sitting at the mitzvah towns. If there's a lot of tragic, you
• 43:01
  know. So I was there when I I became
• 43:05
  1314 when the first PK record came out and the second PK
• 43:09
  record. And the Boston rebel wrote this
• 43:11
  song and and, and the Ramatorski's kind of Rooker
• 43:15
  wrote Toshio Samerko and the song Sabe came out.
• 43:18
  So Eden was starting to sing at that time.
• 43:22
  And I was, we all began to flower at the same time.
• 43:26
  Do you understand? It's very, very, you know, you
• 43:30
  were born to a world where it's a developed world already.
• 43:32
  And it's, you know, so when these, when these people came to
• 43:35
  me. So for instance, I started in
• 43:36
  the beginning, I started writing for kids.
• 43:38
  I wrote to London School, then to New York school, then for
• 43:41
  near Schleimpierke and then for Sylva Zemmer.
• 43:44
  And then because that was the that was the medium that a
• 43:49
  Jewish Home would listen to music, they wouldn't listen to
• 43:52
  to an MBD because there was no such a thing as an MBD.
• 43:55
  So I wrote so and so. So I became a little better
• 43:58
  known all the time because you have a lot of kids and you have
• 44:01
  a lot of parents and you have a lot of friends and you have a
• 44:03
  lot of relatives. So every child, you would have
• 44:06
  18 kids in the choir, 18 kids meant you had hundreds of people
• 44:10
  that you that you became famous to.
• 44:13
  You know, they knew you, they met you backstage, they met you.
• 44:16
  They were picking up the kids. They were bringing up the kids
• 44:17
  in the morning. So that was in the beginning and
• 44:20
  then I, I, I lived in Borough Park because I got my first job
• 44:24
  in Borough Park. I lived in Williamsburg.
• 44:25
  But in order to be at 9:00 at my job focus I selling film,
• 44:31
  whatever batteries. So, so I in order he said, I'll
• 44:35
  give you the job, which was, I think it paid me $120.00 a week
• 44:39
  on the books working 60-70 hours.
• 44:42
  But I had to be there at 9:00 when I opened the dog walk in at
• 44:46
  nine O 5. I have plenty people that want
• 44:49
  this job, you know. Anyway, so in order to be there
• 44:51
  at 9:00, I had to sleep there. So in the beginning I slept by a
• 44:55
  relative in Borough Park. And then eventually I we got our
• 44:57
  own apartment, which today sounds like those days.
• 45:01
  It was like I got an apartment in Borough Park and the mayor,
• 45:05
  Sherman was my roommate. I needed somebody to share the
• 45:08
  rent with me. So we've had two, We had two
• 45:10
  rooms. He was my roommate and he played
• 45:13
  guitar. We had no piano.
• 45:15
  He played guitar and and he sang a little bit, you know, around
• 45:18
  the campfire in bungalow colonies.
• 45:21
  And he said, would you would you write me some songs?
• 45:25
  And I wrote him and I wrote him. So this is this is this is going
• 45:28
  to go into your monetization because you're going to fall off
• 45:30
  your feet when you hear the end of the punchline of the story.
• 45:33
  I wrote him 10 songs. I don't think you, you ever
• 45:36
  heard one of these songs. I don't think you know any of
• 45:38
  these songs. They're not known.
• 45:41
  They're not well known at all. He sold the album.
• 45:44
  He sold 20,000 albums the first year.
• 45:47
  Let me tell you what that means. The albums and those days were
• 45:50
  selling for five, $5 in the store.
• 45:54
  The cost of the production of the album was $1.00.
• 45:58
  That means that he got $4 * 20, which is $80,000.
• 46:03
  My House on the Ocean, which today is worth.
• 46:06
  I was, was I think, I think I purchased this for $70,000.
• 46:10
  Seventy. And what it took to get together
• 46:13
  that $30,000 down payment. How many borrowers and parents
• 46:17
  and relatives and one year he was my room.
• 46:21
  I had no idea this was happening.
• 46:22
  He's the one that made the album.
• 46:25
  He got the deal. Nobody told me anything.
• 46:28
  Years that I didn't know that I didn't know this.
• 46:30
  And then Avramel shows up. Why did Avramel show up?
• 46:32
  Because Shia Mandelwitzer was met a Bremel and brought a
• 46:36
  Bremel to my house and they knocked on the door.
• 46:38
  And I tell everybody that when they showed up, they looked like
• 46:40
  a before, like a diet before and after, you know, you know, she
• 46:44
  had canine horror was a big, big guy and a Bremel was so skinny
• 46:47
  that we turned sideways. He looked like a line, you know,
• 46:50
  like who he was. Still we've I still tell my wife
• 46:52
  that that guy, if he's not going to get reflector is on the side,
• 46:54
  he's going to get in a major accident.
• 46:56
  That's how skinny he was. Then they came to my house and
• 46:59
  they wanted me to do a song for them and I started writing for
• 47:03
  them. And he did his for album and he
• 47:05
  sold 35,000 albums in the first year or two.
• 47:08
  You understand what kind of money we're talking about.
• 47:12
  Any album that you came out with sold 20,000 albums.
• 47:16
  Anything. It was a wedding.
• 47:18
  Cloudy still was so hungry for music.
• 47:21
  There was so much money being made by these people.
• 47:25
  I I had nothing to do with it because I.
• 47:27
  So they didn't pay you for this one?
• 47:28
  No what pay you you. Didn't have there.
• 47:30
  Was no, this is so wonderful. I'm looking at you guys and
• 47:34
  you're developed, you understand, you understand what
• 47:37
  your value is and you want to get paid.
• 47:39
  You're good at something. Never do it for.
• 47:40
  Free. Never do it for free.
• 47:41
  I had to, but nobody did this thing yet.
• 47:45
  It's only years later they began to go, wait a minute, if they're
• 47:49
  making this and they're making, shouldn't I?
• 47:52
  There was a lot of whip marks on my back to show you what it
• 47:55
  looks like till I finally got the got the message across that
• 47:57
  I'm not going to do this anymore unless I get paid.
• 48:02
  Good for you. A couple of years too late, but
• 48:05
  you learned your lesson the. Hard way.
• 48:06
  Because they were making money. Money they were.
• 48:09
  Making money. You cannot imagine the kind of
• 48:12
  money and I'll tell you right now.
• 48:14
  So let me just tell you something.
• 48:16
  We talk about 1000 songs before. Let me tell you what 1000 songs
• 48:19
  means. Forget about, forget about my my
• 48:21
  input. 1000 songs means there were 1000 songs that were
• 48:25
  produced at an average of between 6 and $10,000 A song you
• 48:30
  talk about there is people that earned $10 million worth of of
• 48:37
  income from stuff that happened. With these fingers.
• 48:41
  With the piano. Can you imagine that?
• 48:43
  That's serious monetization, right?
• 48:46
  Anyway. So what was that first big song
• 48:49
  that you actually made money on? What was the first song that
• 48:51
  really put some some green in your pocket and you realize like
• 48:55
  green? I like the.
• 48:56
  Pun, yeah. No pun intended.
• 48:57
  That I could actually make some money here.
• 48:59
  Aduraba. Aduraba so that How long did it
• 49:02
  take you to compose Aduraba? No, it didn't.
• 49:05
  It didn't take me to compose. It wasn't a matter of Aduraba is
• 49:08
  not about the song it's about, It's about the text.
• 49:11
  Then then there's a whole other. There's a whole other piece
• 49:15
  that's missing here, which is the text.
• 49:16
  It's not the song, it's the text.
• 49:18
  My, my, my music, my my writing, my my MO is all about the text
• 49:25
  1st and then the melody. It's always about the text.
• 49:28
  That's where it started from. That's it.
• 49:29
  You. Have to find the right.
• 49:30
  Foundation of That's the right, yeah.
• 49:33
  But that wasn't my text. I understand that was his.
• 49:36
  Text. You've seen it.
• 49:37
  You've seen it. That's the first opening to your
• 49:39
  life. That was, yeah.
• 49:40
  But that was, that's, he was my, my mentor.
• 49:43
  I saw that he, he connected. I said, what is the piano?
• 49:46
  What does this melody have to do with the text?
• 49:49
  And I he he showed me that there's no such a thing as a
• 49:52
  melody without text. By the way, that's why I like
• 49:54
  Koshi's idea of taking the text of Yom Kippur and making a song
• 49:56
  out of it. Because like, no.
• 49:57
  It's about the. Text, but it's hard of the
• 49:58
  words. But there's so much it's equal
• 49:59
  costume and not safer. The story that got you moved is,
• 50:03
  is Schleimer's vision of it the way he would look at Yom Kippur?
• 50:08
  And that's why he invited all of these people that it didn't
• 50:10
  matter to him. That Nebuchaste.
• 50:12
  Who knows where the guy was today?
• 50:13
  What's the difference? He's in shul.
• 50:15
  He's with me tonight. And you know.
• 50:17
  Is there any residual monetization from any of your
• 50:20
  songs that you're still making money until today or or is it a
• 50:23
  one and done? You get paid for it, even if
• 50:25
  it's a large amount, but it's kind of a hit and run and that's
• 50:27
  it and you move on. Excellent question, but I don't
• 50:29
  mind that. But if you want to talk about
• 50:30
  anything else here besides this, we can go on this.
• 50:33
  There's a homeless sector, there's royalties, there's
• 50:36
  mechanical royalties. There is the what's been what's
• 50:38
  happening now where the performers and the writers are
• 50:41
  being very, very hurt because of Spotify.
• 50:46
  I mean, they're being hurt very, very badly, you know, but that,
• 50:49
  but we used to make a lot of money.
• 50:51
  So we realized that in order to do this, I can't only write, I
• 50:55
  have to produce. I have to finance the albums.
• 50:57
  I got to do them myself and I got to bring the artist to me
• 51:01
  and say, would you like to perform and come this way?
• 51:06
  That's when it would change and. The the full continuum of care.
• 51:09
  It was my. Top to bottom and you're
• 51:11
  controlling everything. Then then specific projects.
• 51:14
  Not everything. I mean, the MBD didn't need me
• 51:17
  to produce his his albums. Ramel wasn't going to have me
• 51:21
  because she Mendel was Lahava Mehheim.
• 51:24
  Lehheim is the one that brought him to the house and they had a
• 51:27
  thing going until they didn't. You know I.
• 51:29
  Have to tell you that, you know, the, the monetization, the
• 51:31
  business side of it, it's all fascinating.
• 51:33
  But I'm going back to the emotion of it and I'm sorry and
• 51:36
  here I have to go back in. I'm placing myself in Israel in
• 51:39
  the old city, yes. And there's a time every year,
• 51:43
  it probably happens a few times throughout the year actually,
• 51:45
  that you have at least over 100,000 people that fill up that
• 51:49
  the stadium of all stadiums. That is what I like to call it,
• 51:53
  right? And you know, I wonder what it
• 51:55
  does to you. Have you ever been there and you
• 51:57
  heard 100,000 people singing your song?
• 51:59
  Yes, I've been there and I and I see it and I try to try you.
• 52:02
  You can't. So, well, I only own a song
• 52:07
  until it's between me and and whoever sitting next to me and
• 52:12
  the piano and my wife was in the kitchen and, and the feeling
• 52:16
  that there is something happening in this room now
• 52:18
  that's that's larger, larger than life and larger than me,
• 52:21
  larger than all of us. And the Fern, which turns into a
• 52:24
  fervent prayer. Please rundle and please take
• 52:26
  this and let everybody feel what we're feeling now, because we're
• 52:30
  feeling something that's really that's real.
• 52:32
  And that like other Aberteim Billy Bain and Shneer color.
• 52:35
  I mean, it's like the rebel Imelech.
• 52:36
  You know, the the world knows Benardo MC Avero from but the
• 52:39
  Hofitzheim, which is the beginning of the, of the the
• 52:42
  20th century. They don't know that there was a
• 52:45
  rebel Imelech, one of the Cassidi greatest Cassidi surebis
• 52:48
  who was talking about this idea then already that 10 bilibenu
• 52:53
  Shaniro colecidis malas cavareno villekas rhinum, which in a
• 52:56
  dabber colecidis caveiro videre ka yoshua veneko aliala bilibenu
• 53:02
  shum sinam ekhadaka. I mean, this is when I saw this
• 53:06
  now this is it's been in the Center for for 300 years, you
• 53:11
  know, and and I happened. This is a filler that that he
• 53:14
  wrote to be said before Filizaka, that same place that
• 53:18
  we're talking before the guys show up, before the you know, so
• 53:23
  you know, there's that hold filly Rodson, right?
• 53:24
  And and at that time you very emotional.
• 53:27
  You have your Talos covered. You you worried about him,
• 53:29
  Kipper. What's this going to be like?
• 53:30
  And and and I would see this and they would break me up and I
• 53:34
  said, you know, what would it be like if I could somehow take
• 53:36
  this lyric and I could put this on the piano?
• 53:39
  There was no word processing at that time.
• 53:42
  He had a right and doing the kudos by hand.
• 53:46
  Big words on the piano and stick it to the piano because if I
• 53:50
  open the door the the the paper would fly.
• 53:52
  We don't know what the words were.
• 53:53
  So we'd put tape on it and your wife would say, what are you
• 53:56
  going to ruin the piano? You know, anyway, she never said
• 53:58
  that, but but but and and to one day know that I I hear it and
• 54:05
  know that Berksham the melody has been delivered and that this
• 54:08
  lyric now has wings and that there are people all over the
• 54:12
  world who may one day know these words because we had a melody at
• 54:17
  this piano. This is impossible to own.
• 54:20
  You can't own this. Somebody sent me yesterday.
• 54:23
  He was a guy. He was he's or Bachemiche.
• 54:26
  I think there is a place called Hummus Adaraba.
• 54:31
  He's got his whole family and they're going in and he sends me
• 54:35
  texts. He says, y'all see, look at this
• 54:36
  thing. I'm going in to the store.
• 54:38
  It's called Huma Sadaraba. And he walks in and you see
• 54:42
  these guys with these big knitted dinar Yama because with
• 54:44
  the loan payers and they're serving and he's got this, these
• 54:47
  other ABBA posters all over the place and, and and he's got
• 54:50
  these little acid boxes. If you're not going to if you if
• 54:53
  you if you feel that you don't need the other half of the
• 54:55
  sandwich. This is a sandwich.
• 54:57
  This is a place for people to come in.
• 54:59
  They look to see if there's any sandwich in there.
• 55:01
  Please don't throw it away. Put your sandwich in here.
• 55:03
  And it's it's I mean Israel is is some of the Eden in Israel
• 55:08
  are are like, forget about it. It's like it's.
• 55:10
  But anyway, he's got other eyeball over place or I have
• 55:13
  somebody who who excitedly sends me he's went to Manhattan to
• 55:18
  some eye doctor and he's looking at at the he's looking at, you
• 55:22
  know, for the eyes. The guys checking the eyes got
• 55:24
  olive dollard rage base hay and it gets smaller and smaller and
• 55:29
  he's got other. You just see that.
• 55:31
  No this. Is posters all over opticians
• 55:33
  have it all over the. Place you know I've never.
• 55:36
  Seen it. Yeah, it's everyone knows.
• 55:38
  Exactly. So this is in every kind, every.
• 55:41
  I'll tell you. In other Abbott, the thing that
• 55:43
  finally made me realize that this is like there was a guy
• 55:46
  called Zvolden Hammer. He was the head of the Mizrahi
• 55:51
  years, years ago. I don't come from a family that
• 55:53
  really was excited about the fact that I had any connection
• 55:56
  with Mizrahi. But to me, I love every single
• 55:58
  lead. There's no difference by me, by
• 56:00
  the way, every single I don't have, I really don't have any
• 56:03
  favourites or preferences or anyway.
• 56:06
  So he's he, he heard that I was in Israel and he loved the song
• 56:10
  Adder ABBA and he was the minister of religion.
• 56:13
  I didn't even know what it means to be the minister of religion.
• 56:16
  But apparently everything of Hiner that has to do in Israel
• 56:19
  is decided by him. So he asked my the host who was
• 56:22
  when he knew they were good friends.
• 56:23
  He says you have your CBI will be OK if I pick him up.
• 56:26
  I'd like to drive him to the school to one of the schools.
• 56:29
  I want to show him something that I'm sure will make him
• 56:30
  happy. And he takes me in.
• 56:32
  He picks me up and I'm very I know his villain Hammer.
• 56:34
  He's in the newspapers every day, you know, and he takes me
• 56:38
  into little what is the pre won a first grade.
• 56:42
  So I had never been in a, in an Israeli, you know, real kind of
• 56:47
  what is it called Nursery Amami. It's a what?
• 56:50
  A. Nursery.
• 56:50
  What? No.
• 56:51
  No. Not again.
• 56:52
  No. A school of first grade, First
• 56:54
  for what's it called? Amami.
• 56:58
  It's a school. A school.
• 56:59
  Hebrew word for. It Yeah, there's a In other
• 57:01
  words, this is the official Israeli schools for children.
• 57:05
  Not, not really, not kind of what's my not the public school,
• 57:11
  yeah, but for the for the for the, for the front, the front
• 57:14
  people in Israel and I walk in and it's like what?
• 57:17
  He says he waited like 3:00 or 2:00.
• 57:20
  I forgot what it was. And he says, I want to walk in
• 57:21
  with you exactly 5 minutes before the hour.
• 57:23
  So I want to show you something interesting.
• 57:25
  OK. We walk in and he he he nods to
• 57:27
  the to the teacher got all excited as woolen hammer is
• 57:31
  here. It's no clue who's the guy with
• 57:32
  the pace anyway. And he walks with me to the back
• 57:35
  of the of the room and he says just wait here and at 5:00 to at
• 57:38
  5:00 to 2:00 or whatever it was. All the kids get up.
• 57:41
  There was like 30 kids in the class.
• 57:42
  They all go to the front of a poster and and they they say
• 57:48
  together they go Al Ghaba, Then Billy Benu.
• 57:58
  I started crying, he says. That's why I brought you.
• 58:00
  I want you to see. Wow, you think you're sitting at
• 58:02
  home and you should know this is what happens.
• 58:05
  This is how far it reaches. This is this is five year olds,
• 58:07
  6 years old six year olds that are saying it on the way, like
• 58:11
  Maida ani. They're saying it anyway.
• 58:13
  Who gave the best rendition in your mind of the adorable?
• 58:17
  Of Rammel. Everybody else is doing a cover,
• 58:20
  you know that's in a cover, and you know the real difference
• 58:23
  between singing a cover and singing an original.
• 58:27
  What's the difference? You're interested in the
• 58:29
  different. Of course I love covers, but I
• 58:31
  agree. I love covers too.
• 58:32
  Yeah, I agree with you about. That a cover is forever a cover.
• 58:36
  Usually the guy does a cover, has a way better voice than the
• 58:39
  original artist and he's got all kinds of acrobatics and he's
• 58:44
  showing off. He's got, he's showing.
• 58:46
  You know, the person who sings it originally is usually the guy
• 58:49
  that I wrote it for who's sitting right next to me.
• 58:52
  I usually write for people that are sitting next to me, by the
• 58:54
  way. I don't write a song and and
• 58:56
  hold hold on a second. Who am I giving this to?
• 58:59
  Interesting. Of course, everybody always used
• 59:00
  to tell me why do you give him these, these best songs and you
• 59:03
  don't give this guy. I said, what are you talking
• 59:05
  about? I don't.
• 59:05
  Give. I don't give.
• 59:06
  Nothing. A person comes and and and
• 59:09
  whatever. Whatever comes here.
• 59:11
  Whatever. That makes.
• 59:12
  Sense we have a conversation like this, Let's say we have a
• 59:14
  piano here and you were talking and you would say play
• 59:17
  something. Whatever would happen, it would
• 59:19
  be uniquely your song. And if you have the ability, the
• 59:23
  way you would sing it with your broken voice or with whatever,
• 59:27
  everybody who's sensitive and know this is Ushi's song.
• 59:30
  Oh, I did an amazing job on that song out around.
• 59:33
  Come on. Sure.
• 59:34
  I mean, that was going to be a cover.
• 59:36
  Yeah, that was going to be a cover.
• 59:37
  It's a cover and they know they know it.
• 59:40
  They know it because of the guy who sings the sings it
• 59:42
  originally. If he's sitting in the audience
• 59:45
  and they happen to spot him in the audience, they would like
• 59:49
  falter immediately. Yeah, for sure.
• 59:51
  Got into your head, if I eliminated every song you ever
• 59:55
  wrote and I let you keep 1, you got to keep one.
• 59:57
  You're not keeping anything else one that this is going to be
• 1:00:00
  your claim to fame and they'll remember this song about you for
• 1:00:03
  the next 1000 years. So you you OK, so you're asking.
• 1:00:05
  Why and why? So again, so I need to
• 1:00:08
  understand what is the reason for the question my claim to
• 1:00:11
  fame. No, not going to you personally
• 1:00:13
  your favorite that you not give me this.
• 1:00:15
  But I'm not. You mean if I'm not?
• 1:00:17
  You have to pick. I know you probably have 451015
• 1:00:19
  but right now I'm putting you on the spot to pick.
• 1:00:21
  One, I'll tell you why it's a very difficult answer.
• 1:00:23
  It's a difficult I I'm sorry. I'm not.
• 1:00:25
  I'm not weaseling out of it. If you told me give me 5, maybe
• 1:00:28
  I could do it. But I have a song called Give me
• 1:00:30
  3. You know, radiation.
• 1:00:32
  I'm very bad. OK, OK, So let me tell you.
• 1:00:34
  I'm sorry, I know. It you know it, No, but you're.
• 1:00:36
  Asking out of the words. You spin the question like this,
• 1:00:41
  that is this Stephen, He's a real person I love.
• 1:00:44
  It I love his blouses. Spin it like this.
• 1:00:46
  Sort of like the Joe Di Maggio card.
• 1:00:48
  The card, the song is stuck away in the drawer and you need to
• 1:00:52
  use it to bail out the Ishiva. It's that prize possession.
• 1:00:57
  What's the song? So that's a fundraiser question.
• 1:00:59
  I understand what he's saying. Exactly fundra.
• 1:01:01
  Depends on the scenario of what favorite is and someone like
• 1:01:05
  him. You can raise funds with with
• 1:01:06
  with Hebrew. You you can raise funds with Joe
• 1:01:08
  Di Maggio's believe me, you can. By the way, I just evolved about
• 1:01:12
  him. He's my contemporary.
• 1:01:14
  He's he's to me. He's he's he's my God Ladar.
• 1:01:17
  When it comes to these kind of songs, there's nothing to talk
• 1:01:20
  about. We both come.
• 1:01:21
  He's older than me, but and we both grew up at the same time
• 1:01:24
  and we had a very healthy kind of site from through all the
• 1:01:28
  years and we finally somehow, you know, got the like me in
• 1:01:34
  prime source. Just kidding.
• 1:01:36
  You know what? Let's go there.
• 1:01:37
  But before we do, I, I, you. Know I'm giving him the.
• 1:01:40
  I have a question that we ask in the middle of the podcast, which
• 1:01:44
  is pretty much where we're up to right now.
• 1:01:46
  And usually the guest is, you know, comes from one sort of
• 1:01:50
  background that there's a message that he can give to the,
• 1:01:52
  to anyone who's listening. I, I feel like with you,
• 1:01:55
  especially after speaking to you earlier, that it's not fair to
• 1:01:58
  ask you to just generally give a message.
• 1:02:01
  We're going to shift to business in a minute.
• 1:02:03
  I feel it coming before we get away from the music world, you
• 1:02:07
  know, Speaking of the monetary gaining or losses and then what
• 1:02:11
  to be careful from and the proudest moment and, you know,
• 1:02:15
  the feelings that you have and the moments that you've had.
• 1:02:17
  What would be your message when it comes to just music in
• 1:02:21
  general or Jewish music? Is there a a message that you
• 1:02:25
  would love to share with the world, with people listening?
• 1:02:30
  What would that be? Well, I can.
• 1:02:32
  I can speak only to to myself. No, that I can only speak.
• 1:02:35
  I don't speak. Sure.
• 1:02:36
  This is the Here is the truth. No, no, no, that's not of.
• 1:02:39
  Course we're not. We're not.
• 1:02:40
  This is not, we're not looking for an MLK moment.
• 1:02:42
  We're just I. Can tell you what, what I feel
• 1:02:44
  is the most important, the most important element of Jewish
• 1:02:49
  music. And I'm not quoting, unquoting,
• 1:02:52
  I'm telling you, I mean, I mean, I mean our music, you know, I'm
• 1:02:55
  not doing this. I'm, you know, Jewish music, our
• 1:02:58
  music, it's all based on the text.
• 1:03:03
  The melody is the second part of it.
• 1:03:07
  And as long as Jewish music is looked at as the melody itself
• 1:03:11
  and the production is there are guys there is there is a world
• 1:03:15
  out there as a George Martin was a producer of The Beatles.
• 1:03:19
  Nobody can produce like George Martin never know.
• 1:03:21
  But nowhere in terms of writing melodies like Paul McCartney.
• 1:03:26
  I mean, I'm I'm mentioning people that are not There are
• 1:03:29
  people who have great great. God gave them tremendous talent.
• 1:03:33
  Talent. A guy called Jacob Collier.
• 1:03:35
  I mean, I'm I hope I hope you you heard of Jacob Collier.
• 1:03:38
  Maybe maybe you didn't. He's the Mozart of the
• 1:03:41
  generation today. OK.
• 1:03:42
  And why is he amazing? What was amazing about Mozart?
• 1:03:44
  Mozart was a little 8-9 year old kid when the greatest composers
• 1:03:48
  in the in his time and he lived in the classical era.
• 1:03:51
  I mean, like before Beethoven, after Hayden, after, you know,
• 1:03:55
  and he was he was writing songs by playing piano that there were
• 1:04:00
  literally people composers who had worked all their lives and
• 1:04:04
  they they would breakdown crying and he's a little stinker 67
• 1:04:09
  year old. And he would do stupid things
• 1:04:11
  after he was finished, you know, And when you would see it to me,
• 1:04:14
  when I would look at I said this is because Barker does these
• 1:04:17
  things as he wants to show the world what he can do.
• 1:04:22
  What you, you know, here, you want to see, you want to see
• 1:04:24
  talent table takes the whole thing.
• 1:04:26
  And he poured out the whole barrel of talent on this kid,
• 1:04:29
  you know, so there are great talents.
• 1:04:32
  This Jacob Collier is that kind of person.
• 1:04:35
  I recommend you, you you take a look at him and see what it is.
• 1:04:38
  I mean, I don't know. I'm not telling.
• 1:04:40
  I'm not telling people what you know, you know, this is going
• 1:04:42
  out. I'm not.
• 1:04:44
  But he's somebody that to me, he's something.
• 1:04:47
  It's incredible that such a thing exists in the world, that
• 1:04:49
  the person can have that kind of talent.
• 1:04:52
  That's not what Jewish music is about.
• 1:04:54
  Jewish music is about. It's a, an MCE.
• 1:04:57
  It's a vehicle to get texts out that people would never hear and
• 1:05:03
  they would never encounter in the normal life.
• 1:05:05
  And that's what Adaraba is. What a difference is Tanya, the
• 1:05:09
  the Tanya was the big song before Adaraba.
• 1:05:10
  I don't know if you're familiar with that.
• 1:05:12
  OK. Tanya is a Gemara in the name
• 1:05:14
  Sector Brokers Dafzai, which I always used to say that.
• 1:05:17
  Who didn't learn Sector Brokers Dafzai?
• 1:05:20
  Everybody throws in the towel but Dafyud.
• 1:05:23
  But by Dafzai, you're still in it.
• 1:05:25
  You're still right. You're still there, and then I'm
• 1:05:27
  going to try again, and then you try again.
• 1:05:29
  You get this Dafzai, you say maybe this is not Shabbos.
• 1:05:34
  You know what? Shabbos has got a lock as it has
• 1:05:35
  everything. You start Shabbos, you'd see
• 1:05:37
  it's a Shabbos times. Oh, oh, suka.
• 1:05:40
  Suka is a small, you know. You know, this is what we used
• 1:05:42
  to be in Shiva. We tried to conquer that one
• 1:05:45
  dissect, and we just couldn't. We just couldn't do it.
• 1:05:48
  So everybody got to Brock's dab sign and Brock's dab sign.
• 1:05:52
  When I got there, I saw this story that there was small Ben
• 1:05:56
  Alicia, who's the one of the last Kahanam Gaddaam in the
• 1:06:00
  second based on Mikdash. He's one of the people that was
• 1:06:03
  now of the Asura Ruga Malchus. You know, I mean, he's, he's
• 1:06:06
  talking about he was killed in a in a very, very horrific,
• 1:06:10
  horrific way. And he walked in to the to the
• 1:06:14
  Kachakadashim because that, you know, comes that time in the
• 1:06:16
  middle of Yom Kippur when he walks in the Kachakadashim and
• 1:06:19
  he and he comes out and he tells the story that happened to him
• 1:06:23
  over there. There was this apparition.
• 1:06:25
  He saw God sitting over there. In the end, in the God he's
• 1:06:31
  speaking about God there is he's sitting over there in in the
• 1:06:37
  country. By the way.
• 1:06:40
  Right, I'll kiss her. And he says to me, he's I'm
• 1:06:44
  quoting him. You're you're Ishmael.
• 1:06:46
  You're a kind, right? You're kind.
• 1:06:50
  You're kind. Goddle, I gave you the power of
• 1:06:52
  blessing. Bless me.
• 1:06:53
  Give me a brocha. I called you Barack was asking
• 1:06:55
  this kind again. I'm like getting the chills like
• 1:07:00
  and and I thought about I'm again, I'm paraphrasing.
• 1:07:03
  What can I how do I bless? Blessing means you, you, you
• 1:07:08
  know what a blessing? It's an increase, right, Right.
• 1:07:10
  When you want a brocha, you want more of what you how's he going
• 1:07:14
  to write? What's he say so he says so.
• 1:07:17
  So he came, he thought about it and then he came up.
• 1:07:19
  He realized that the cottage Brock was asking and this is my
• 1:07:21
  own understanding of it, obviously, because Brock is is
• 1:07:25
  is giving him a message. Listen to listen to my question
• 1:07:28
  and respond. And he says apparently it was a
• 1:07:31
  tremendous kitchen and Claudius for all the time.
• 1:07:33
  And he says, I want you to make a demand from me that I should
• 1:07:37
  increase my Rachman and look away from things that I have to
• 1:07:44
  look away, you know, and it says and I nodded and I agreed with
• 1:07:49
  him. I said in other words, so so I
• 1:07:51
  realized right away, this is not a brocha.
• 1:07:53
  This is this is this is how could the brocha was asking
• 1:07:56
  because he wants to have a piss compared to the other side.
• 1:07:59
  That's that's saying that the Jews aren't totally what should
• 1:08:02
  I do? He first of all, Richmond
• 1:08:04
  cangles at Sadiq and Sadiq goes there because he asked me.
• 1:08:08
  He told me that I should give him that, that I have to do
• 1:08:10
  this. I got to do this.
• 1:08:12
  You know, I'm and I sat down to write a song which became a A a.
• 1:08:17
  Mega hit. This was the beginning of that,
• 1:08:19
  yeah, of that genre and. That's that question, but I I do
• 1:08:22
  want to say that I happen to know personally, yes, that you
• 1:08:27
  recently celebrated a birthday yes, So happy birthday to you.
• 1:08:30
  I mentioned it on last week's episode and last episode and
• 1:08:35
  thank you Gershi. That's.
• 1:08:36
  Called a confident man he knew already last week.
• 1:08:38
  I'll be here. Well, thank you.
• 1:08:39
  You know, Gershi recommended you and you're here so graciously,
• 1:08:42
  so we certainly appreciate it. We spoke about the birthday.
• 1:08:46
  I'm thinking right now while you're talking about this song
• 1:08:48
  is that we each have the opportunity every year to have
• 1:08:51
  the power of a coin. Yes, it's on our birthday, sure.
• 1:08:54
  And on our birthday we have the ability to give up blessings.
• 1:08:56
  It's kind of it's I actually love birthdays.
• 1:08:58
  I love celebrating birthdays and happy birthday to you.
• 1:09:01
  Thank you. I I almost feel like I want to
• 1:09:04
  sing to you, but I'm going to sing.
• 1:09:05
  It's wonderful. Happy birthday is it's a
• 1:09:07
  beautiful every brocha that you get from me, the brocha is a
• 1:09:11
  it's it's what does it even mean that where do you where does
• 1:09:15
  somebody come of blessing another person?
• 1:09:16
  It's obviously a brocha that I got the brocha gave 1 Eid and he
• 1:09:21
  said, look, if you mean it, you can actually add a real positive
• 1:09:26
  energy to this other person's life.
• 1:09:27
  That's what it is. It's not a joke.
• 1:09:29
  It's not one of those things. Now give me a blessing, you
• 1:09:31
  know, but I'll say it has a bracha means something.
• 1:09:34
  You know, you know the thing about Barack was managing how
• 1:09:36
  you know the this is the villa Guna says that base Rashkov are
• 1:09:40
  the are the in the in the in the half base Ossies of Alabay.
• 1:09:44
  These are the doubling OCS. Base is 2, Hof is 20 and Rash is
• 1:09:50
  200. That's why Bahar gets speech 9
• 1:09:53
  because Bay is half rage. Because it's the bahar.
• 1:09:56
  The first born gets a doubling because the word bahar and the
• 1:10:01
  word baruch is the same. So it's, in other words, it's a
• 1:10:04
  doubling of, of of. Enhancing you, sort of.
• 1:10:08
  Lose me when you come to Gematria.
• 1:10:09
  I'm sorry. I'm sorry, OK.
• 1:10:11
  It's not a big be a matri. This is very fascinating that
• 1:10:14
  the that the word is going. Back to the the, the blessing.
• 1:10:17
  They got it. So, so you know, it's too late.
• 1:10:19
  I can't get a blessing from you on your birthday, but I'm sure
• 1:10:21
  I'm gonna believe you definitely get a mercy from me.
• 1:10:23
  What's? The good you could, why not
• 1:10:24
  100%? Sure, but it's.
• 1:10:26
  It's not a magic done a magic day.
• 1:10:27
  It's a day I. Think it's magical, I think.
• 1:10:29
  It's well, I. Hear what you're saying but.
• 1:10:31
  I think what it's supposed to, you know, you know the thing,
• 1:10:33
  you know the thing with the red, the red thread.
• 1:10:36
  Sure. So like so so.
• 1:10:38
  Against the bad omen. Against the bad omen.
• 1:10:40
  So all the all the years. Well, come on, you can have a
• 1:10:43
  somebody really, Khalil, because hates you and hates somebody
• 1:10:47
  else and doesn't forgive him nothing, Khalil.
• 1:10:48
  That guy's gonna have a bad here.
• 1:10:51
  Not you can do about it obviously, obviously with.
• 1:10:56
  You, I'm just saying. So let me tell you, let me tell
• 1:10:57
  you what it means. It's an unbelievable.
• 1:10:58
  So you put it on your little baby, you know, your little baby
• 1:11:00
  in the carriage and you put because your baby's gorgeous and
• 1:11:03
  you're afraid people are going to not forget you.
• 1:11:05
  So he put this thing on and it's OK.
• 1:11:07
  My little baby has. He says that's not what it is.
• 1:11:10
  It's what it's supposed to. It's supposed to remind the
• 1:11:12
  person who sees it not to give you an Einhart.
• 1:11:16
  That's what it's not. It's not a magic.
• 1:11:18
  It's supposed to write what the birthday, what the birthday is.
• 1:11:23
  It's reminds you, you should know something.
• 1:11:24
  You can bless people a whole year, but on your birthday, this
• 1:11:28
  is the day when you can read. But it's not magic on the
• 1:11:31
  birthday either. If you don't, if you don't do it
• 1:11:33
  with all yourself, I hear. What you're saying it makes
• 1:11:35
  sense I. Agree.
• 1:11:35
  And I hate you with all my, all my Oh, tell me you have a doubt.
• 1:11:38
  You have a doubt that I meant you should be much.
• 1:11:41
  You should have you the Schnakis and Sholam Bai's and you should
• 1:11:44
  be your your prime source should become the most well known
• 1:11:49
  purchasing, you know, system in in the entire healthcare
• 1:11:54
  industry. And you should go public or
• 1:11:55
  whatever it is that you're looking for or whatever.
• 1:11:58
  And that's what we. Were looking for, by the way,
• 1:12:00
  having you at the seat. I'm being honest.
• 1:12:01
  With you and the eco is that you should, you should have a good,
• 1:12:03
  you should have, you should have, you shouldn't have a good
• 1:12:06
  life with it. It shouldn't make you, make you.
• 1:12:08
  A main. And thank you.
• 1:12:09
  And I really appreciate it. I'm gonna tell you what my
• 1:12:11
  father always told me. OK.
• 1:12:12
  Whatever you wish me. I wish you double.
• 1:12:13
  There you go. Thank you very much.
• 1:12:15
  I know it's not my birthday, but please accept it as if it was
• 1:12:16
  accepted on your birthday. Yes, I happen to know because a
• 1:12:20
  little birdie told me her name is Rookie.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah. And she mentioned to me that she
• 1:12:24
  did something very special for you.
• 1:12:25
  And I want to mention it for a minute because I have a
• 1:12:28
  question. You have an alphabetical order
• 1:12:30
  because she did a whole bunch of special things.
• 1:12:31
  I'm I'm going. To start with AI guess she
• 1:12:35
  always knows what to do. She does to get to your heart.
• 1:12:39
  Yes, she knows me well, people. Can't hear you on the mic, but
• 1:12:42
  what Rookie is saying is that it's your best friend right here
• 1:12:44
  and. I rookie ultimately.
• 1:12:45
  I happen to know that what she did was she spent a very long
• 1:12:49
  time and a considerable amount of effort and got people a year
• 1:12:54
  of work that she put into your birthday gift, which is so
• 1:12:58
  beautiful. It's like I'm getting
• 1:12:59
  emotionally been talking about it.
• 1:13:01
  And she compiled videos from everyone who was part of your
• 1:13:05
  life. And she took her time and
• 1:13:07
  created a / 3 hour compilation of videos of people that were
• 1:13:12
  connected to you in your life, giving you a blessing.
• 1:13:14
  Wow, 3 hours. More 3 hours and 15 minutes.
• 1:13:17
  I'm more amazed that there's so much content for three hours,
• 1:13:20
  that you have so many people out there that are wishing you well
• 1:13:23
  and that care enough to record something for you.
• 1:13:25
  I mean, you made lasting impressions on people that you
• 1:13:28
  haven't. I could get maybe 8 minutes, you
• 1:13:30
  know, 10 minutes. For me and started digging.
• 1:13:32
  In half of it. Half of it from my wife.
• 1:13:34
  These young guys you all want to be, Come on.
• 1:13:38
  Put the effort in. That's very, very impressive.
• 1:13:40
  Have you watched all of it? You watched.
• 1:13:42
  All we went on vacation afterwards.
• 1:13:43
  If I may ask you and I, I don't want to get too invasive and you
• 1:13:47
  know. If you're going to ask me who is
• 1:13:48
  the most, not most, that's a great question.
• 1:13:51
  I'd love to hear favorite. There's no most.
• 1:13:53
  I'm just curious if anything is standing out to you that you say
• 1:13:56
  to yourself. Wow, just hearing that person
• 1:13:58
  say that it's just, you know, it's something amazing.
• 1:14:01
  It's just something it's something I can learn from
• 1:14:03
  something that I you could share with a teachable moment.
• 1:14:05
  Is there any I use that with my children all the time, a
• 1:14:08
  teachable moment. So I'm just curious what you
• 1:14:10
  think. Obviously I would love to ask
• 1:14:11
  rookie what she thinks, but first I'm going to ask you what
• 1:14:14
  you think in terms of, you know, there's so much content there,
• 1:14:16
  but was there something that stood out or one or two?
• 1:14:19
  I'm sure the 10 anything that comes to your mind because what
• 1:14:22
  a beautiful moment to share. We.
• 1:14:23
  Have patience to hear a little story is amusing and relates to
• 1:14:27
  the healthcare business patients.
• 1:14:29
  I can tell you. I can tell you what probably
• 1:14:32
  moved me more than anything as as a video from the videos that
• 1:14:38
  she. Please.
• 1:14:39
  It's kind of why you're here, Yasi.
• 1:14:40
  There you go. It's kind of the reason we
• 1:14:42
  invited you. I would love to hear the story.
• 1:14:43
  And he's giving us the triple threat here.
• 1:14:46
  We're getting a little healthcare.
• 1:14:47
  Yes, we're getting a lot of a moment.
• 1:14:49
  Now you're getting a lot of a story.
• 1:14:51
  You asked how did we build this company?
• 1:14:54
  We didn't come from this company.
• 1:14:55
  Our parents and our businesses, our parents were very, very
• 1:14:59
  people that worked very, very hard for every penny.
• 1:15:01
  They had so little, my in laws and my parents.
• 1:15:04
  We don't come, you know, at all from from any, any familial
• 1:15:09
  wealth. And 1985 is when we opened up
• 1:15:14
  our company. October of 1985 was when we
• 1:15:18
  incorporated Gerry Medics incorporated at the time.
• 1:15:21
  And 1987 is when AIDS broke out in the world.
• 1:15:26
  There was this new Mahler Rahman Lutslam, and people were
• 1:15:30
  shifting around where it comes from, how it comes, where it
• 1:15:32
  comes, whatever. And America ran out of something
• 1:15:37
  called gloves. Now, can I ask where were you in
• 1:15:41
  1985? I was born in 86.
• 1:15:45
  At least at least that you know, usually when I say I say this,
• 1:15:50
  the interviews look at each other in 1985 anyway, and it was
• 1:15:56
  determined suddenly America ran out of gloves.
• 1:15:58
  You don't know what that means. They they just didn't have
• 1:16:00
  gloves. All the the postman had to have
• 1:16:04
  gloves. The tall guy had have gloves.
• 1:16:07
  The police officer in the car had have a box of gloves.
• 1:16:10
  Otherwise you couldn't get into the it's like mask the fire the
• 1:16:12
  original covered, but masks, people mask was not even in the
• 1:16:16
  right. It wasn't even in and anybody
• 1:16:18
  nobody realized that it was happening.
• 1:16:19
  I mean, by mass, we already knew there were people in advance.
• 1:16:23
  There were people who were making masks a year in advance
• 1:16:25
  already. They had connections with COVID.
• 1:16:26
  I actually. Never knew this.
• 1:16:27
  I was alive during this era. I never knew this.
• 1:16:29
  I'm fascinated by this is. This is, I'm telling you, this
• 1:16:31
  is the fascinating first PPE, the 1st and there was no gloves.
• 1:16:35
  And I met Eid who told me that he goes to China to do all kinds
• 1:16:41
  of whatever jewelry I think was at the time and and I think it
• 1:16:45
  was in the jewelry business. And he said to me, I see what
• 1:16:48
  you have to do is you got to do, you got to come with me, I'll
• 1:16:52
  take you to Hong Kong. Hong Kong, wow.
• 1:16:54
  Hong Kong was just, it was like a dream.
• 1:16:56
  Hong Kong was like paradise, which we never, we thought who's
• 1:16:59
  which, who in our life is ever going to visit Hong Kong?
• 1:17:03
  And from Hong Kong, we will fly into China, we will train into
• 1:17:08
  China, we will boat into China, we will drive into China.
• 1:17:12
  They explain to the Hong Kong is a place that China is this big
• 1:17:15
  place. And you can, you know, you, you
• 1:17:18
  can access China and all that depends what, depending where
• 1:17:20
  you want to go. And it's got a billion, some odd
• 1:17:24
  people and they can make anything.
• 1:17:26
  And, and I said, but I don't know anything about China.
• 1:17:28
  I don't know. Chinese says don't worry about
• 1:17:30
  it. We'll and Bhashandra Bansham
• 1:17:32
  helped. I remember my partner
• 1:17:34
  Hashirubin, he came to the airport and I'm going, I
• 1:17:35
  remember going up, going up the, the escalator and he's looking
• 1:17:38
  at me and he's like saying, and I'm doing the same thing.
• 1:17:41
  I don't know where we going. You know how scary it was.
• 1:17:43
  It's hard for people to understand.
• 1:17:45
  There's no such a thing as a cell phone, if you understand
• 1:17:48
  what that means. There's no such a thing even as
• 1:17:50
  a computer, a laptop. We had a big yeah, we didn't,
• 1:17:56
  but we understood somehow. Just go, go, go, go, just go.
• 1:18:01
  And I and I was pretty, I was a scary guy.
• 1:18:04
  I was not a, I was not a brave person ever in my life.
• 1:18:07
  This was very scary. And I got on this plane and the,
• 1:18:10
  the, the, the ride was sick. It was a 16 hour flight with all
• 1:18:13
  kinds of stop offs anyway. And I was able Borchem to, to,
• 1:18:19
  to, to buy gloves and I would, and I came back and every
• 1:18:23
  container that we bought in our container cost at that time it
• 1:18:28
  was $60,000 because there you would have 1000 cases in the
• 1:18:32
  container and each container each, each case was $60.00.
• 1:18:36
  And it was latex gloves. No such thing as a vinyl glove
• 1:18:39
  didn't exist. Nitro was not even in the
• 1:18:41
  planning stages. It was, it was like that, that
• 1:18:44
  was the thing. And what was very strange, what
• 1:18:47
  I found out was that there were certain very big, big medical
• 1:18:50
  supply companies, hospital supply companies, which by the
• 1:18:53
  way are all gone because the, a lot of them went out of business
• 1:18:57
  because of, because of AIDS. They had contracts with
• 1:19:01
  hospitals to sell them a case of gloves at a certain amount of
• 1:19:05
  money. And by the way, gloves were
• 1:19:08
  gloves you were able to buy for $60.00 a case of latex gloves on
• 1:19:12
  the market. These guys had one hospital
• 1:19:15
  health and hospital contracts that they had to supply this
• 1:19:18
  for, let's say for $55 and make their lousy $2.50.
• 1:19:22
  And if they don't supply it because they don't have the
• 1:19:26
  hospitals allowed to go out and buy it on the open market and
• 1:19:29
  build back the the companies. Can you imagine that carbon
• 1:19:35
  after carbon after carbon, these these places were topping?
• 1:19:38
  They weren't only selling them gloves, they were selling them
• 1:19:40
  so many others. Yeah, but the gloves.
• 1:19:41
  They crippled them. That crippled the number one
• 1:19:43
  item. And who brings gloves?
• 1:19:45
  These two stinkers that are that they just opened up a company
• 1:19:48
  and we're on the beer. They called the boys out.
• 1:19:50
  The boys from the pier, 'cause we were on Pier 41, we were
• 1:19:53
  called the boys from the pier. And I would come in that way.
• 1:19:56
  So I also found out why you needed money until that time.
• 1:20:00
  People will say to me they would they want us to invest.
• 1:20:01
  You want, you want us to invest in your company.
• 1:20:03
  What am I going to do with with the investment in those days?
• 1:20:06
  By the way, I want to tell you it's something shocking.
• 1:20:08
  We made we sold $50,000 of business the first month we went
• 1:20:12
  into business and our net profit was 25,000.
• 1:20:16
  Dollars. You can sell $1,000,000 today a
• 1:20:18
  month and if you make $25 on net profit, you're not going to make
• 1:20:22
  $25 on that. I'm I'm sorry.
• 1:20:24
  No one's going to let. You 50%.
• 1:20:27
  Net margin. Yeah, So the guy would say to
• 1:20:29
  me, I'll, I'll invest money. You got to.
• 1:20:31
  I don't need money. I need customers.
• 1:20:33
  I don't need money. They paid.
• 1:20:35
  Everybody paid. Why wouldn't they pay?
• 1:20:36
  They got paid from, right? Imagine such a thing.
• 1:20:41
  So I wouldn't, I don't understand what we need money
• 1:20:43
  for, right? And all of a sudden, every case,
• 1:20:47
  every container that was $60,000 and then when I bring it in here
• 1:20:51
  that day, there was never one of these big, big would come back
• 1:20:54
  with the check and I sold it for 110 certified check.
• 1:20:57
  I wouldn't take a check and he would tell me certified check.
• 1:21:01
  When did you guys open business? I said a year and a half ago,
• 1:21:04
  we're in business for over 100 years.
• 1:21:06
  What are you asking us for, Sir? I'm sorry, Sir.
• 1:21:08
  I was worried. I figured one I understood one
• 1:21:10
  of these checks goes bad and it's over.
• 1:21:12
  I go back to wherever I come from, you know, anyway, so I
• 1:21:17
  realized all of a sudden about the $60,000 that you want.
• 1:21:20
  So I called up those guys that said, remember I said how about
• 1:21:23
  now do you want to for every one of the $60,000 that you give me,
• 1:21:27
  I can bring back of in literally in four weeks I could bring you
• 1:21:31
  another $50,000 of profit which will split and that is how we
• 1:21:35
  built our business. Wow.
• 1:21:37
  This episode is sponsored by Jerry Medics just tell you like
• 1:21:43
  I'm like not interesting. It's beautiful.
• 1:21:45
  And when you you threw in the word prime source over there
• 1:21:48
  earlier, this was this was your beginning this.
• 1:21:50
  Was does this tie into somebody that recorded a happy birthday
• 1:21:54
  message for you in any way? No.
• 1:21:56
  Oh, this was just a story about your, your, your thought.
• 1:21:59
  Yeah, when he asked you the question, what it triggered your
• 1:22:02
  memory about this? No.
• 1:22:03
  No. Maybe.
• 1:22:04
  Has she had a no. No, because I know in the
• 1:22:06
  because I know ultimately there's so much look at this
• 1:22:08
  thing says none of your business podcasts, right, Come on, we're
• 1:22:11
  going to keep talking about my songs and which is the favorite
• 1:22:14
  song and this artist and that guy and the monitor say come on
• 1:22:17
  backwards. What's the story with
• 1:22:19
  healthcare? You've been to a village Old
• 1:22:21
  concert. How many?
• 1:22:22
  Many. As many as I could afford do.
• 1:22:25
  You have any connections in the non Jewish music industry?
• 1:22:28
  I have 0 interest 0. You don't appreciate some non I.
• 1:22:32
  Appreciate everything but I have no interest in can I and what.
• 1:22:35
  Do you appreciate in the non Jewish sector?
• 1:22:37
  All, all of it. If it's if it's great music, it
• 1:22:40
  doesn't matter. So country reggae.
• 1:22:42
  It's good. There's no there's not if it's
• 1:22:44
  good, but. I love, I love, I have.
• 1:22:46
  An album called The Eighth Note, which has every style if you
• 1:22:49
  have and if you've ever would listen to it, you'll it has
• 1:22:52
  every. I have a real reggae song on
• 1:22:54
  there. Actually, Matisyao started, he
• 1:22:58
  was he, he did his first duet with me at the time.
• 1:23:00
  And then suddenly he he kind of moved a little bit to the to the
• 1:23:04
  left and we. Which duet was it?
• 1:23:07
  Would I know? It al al Taimar, not al Taimar
• 1:23:09
  al al Tahdin. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:23:13
  I don't know if al tahdin I I I I.
• 1:23:20
  I got to find that song. I like that.
• 1:23:21
  Interesting. Rocky, could you send him the
• 1:23:23
  song? No.
• 1:23:24
  So I want to go back to what I was asking because I hope to get
• 1:23:26
  an answer from you that's relative to the question, you
• 1:23:29
  know, which is you've got so many messages.
• 1:23:32
  And I want, I, I really want to know from your perspective is if
• 1:23:35
  there's any that stood out that we can learn from.
• 1:23:37
  And I think it triggered your memory of all the people that
• 1:23:39
  were leaving you messages, all the business associates.
• 1:23:42
  There is one that really so I talked to you about Hong Kong,
• 1:23:47
  right, yes, so. That's where the trigger of the
• 1:23:49
  memory. That's where the triggers.
• 1:23:50
  Thank you and. We're back and we're back.
• 1:23:54
  One of these trips coming back from China from a city called
• 1:23:58
  Zhuhai, which is a place where you go with a boat from Hong
• 1:24:02
  Kong, because Hong Kong is connects it's contiguous.
• 1:24:05
  You can drive up the the new territories and straight into
• 1:24:08
  China. You can drive straight.
• 1:24:10
  Then there is a the, the, the whatever Yangtze River where you
• 1:24:15
  have to, you have to cross it with a, with a ferry, with a
• 1:24:18
  boat. It's like an hour.
• 1:24:19
  So this and you you land in a city called Zhuhai, which is a
• 1:24:22
  very a commercial city where they manufacture.
• 1:24:25
  This is the beginning of the by the way, every time you you
• 1:24:27
  wanted to China and you came out, it was a shot of making a
• 1:24:30
  Gamal every single time you came out of there because they could
• 1:24:32
  forgotten if you if you got lost there, that's it.
• 1:24:36
  Nobody would ever know who we're going to call who Ghostbusters
• 1:24:39
  anyway. So so I'm coming back and I'm
• 1:24:43
  I'm one of and I'm very, very nervous because at that time
• 1:24:45
  started the Palestinian crisis was around that time.
• 1:24:48
  There was, and I see this couple that are looking at me.
• 1:24:51
  The the boy is where the man is wearing a, a baseball hat and
• 1:24:54
  the, and the, and, and the woman is, is also, they're very, very
• 1:24:59
  beautiful looking people, very classy looking people, but very,
• 1:25:02
  very Middle Eastern. And they're looking at it.
• 1:25:05
  They're they're talking to each other.
• 1:25:06
  They're leaning on the, on the gun whale of the boat and
• 1:25:09
  they're looking, they're looking at over at me the whole time,
• 1:25:11
  like unabashedly. And I'm getting very
• 1:25:13
  uncomfortable that this guy, this part of the Jew and they
• 1:25:16
  figured for G out sake, let's say I'm going to throw him over
• 1:25:18
  the water. The Chinese river was the end of
• 1:25:20
  it. I literally had these stupid
• 1:25:21
  thoughts. And this went on and on and I'm
• 1:25:24
  waiting and then I don't see any land anywhere and I'm waiting
• 1:25:26
  for this Hong Kong to show up already.
• 1:25:29
  And all of a sudden I noticed from the from the corner of my
• 1:25:32
  eye, they're, they're coming to me.
• 1:25:33
  They're coming towards me. They come towards me and they
• 1:25:38
  ask me, you Jewish? And I figured, sure, this is, I
• 1:25:41
  put two and two together, you know, it's over.
• 1:25:44
  I said, yes, I'm Jewish. He says, well, where are you
• 1:25:47
  staying? I said, I'm staying in the Hong
• 1:25:50
  Kong Hilton. And why there is there is a
• 1:25:53
  there's Shabbat. This was like Thursday.
• 1:25:55
  There's a place where you can do Shabbat.
• 1:25:57
  I said there is a Kabat schliach remote Khayafson, who's Saudi.
• 1:26:02
  He's the one that opened up the entire Far East.
• 1:26:06
  Today there is millions of people already and but he is the
• 1:26:09
  cap. He is the general of that all
• 1:26:11
  like, like Rabbi Lazar opened up Russia, Rabbi Afsin opened up
• 1:26:15
  the Far East. Some people don't remember that
• 1:26:18
  anymore because it's so big already.
• 1:26:19
  But he is the father and he as a matter of fact, there was a
• 1:26:23
  hotel called the Hong Kong Hilton, which had room four O 1
• 1:26:27
  was the room that they had rented.
• 1:26:30
  And that was where the first kebab House of the Far East was.
• 1:26:34
  And I met him and he told me. He says yeah.
• 1:26:36
  And he says Yossi would you Friday night.
• 1:26:39
  I hope we'll see you by minion. Where Minion?
• 1:26:41
  What do you know? So he told me 4 O1 OK.
• 1:26:44
  So I told these guys. I said, look.
• 1:26:46
  Yeah, Yeah. Really.
• 1:26:46
  Where where are you? They come there on the other
• 1:26:48
  side of Hong Kong someplace. Is there a place maybe we can
• 1:26:51
  get a place where to be for Shabbat or we can come like
• 1:26:56
  that. I said, look, I'll tell you what
• 1:26:58
  when you come, I'll look you up with this with this rabbi out
• 1:27:01
  son. And we became very, very good
• 1:27:04
  friends this whole Shabbat. We, we became, you know, they
• 1:27:07
  spoke, they asked me a lot of questions about the Yiddish
• 1:27:09
  guide, him and her. I found out there were two
• 1:27:11
  single people. They were living together at the
• 1:27:14
  time. They were, you know, they were
• 1:27:18
  not, they were not connected very much to the Yiddish guide
• 1:27:21
  yet and so on. I had nothing to do with with
• 1:27:23
  Kiruv today by the everybody's in the kiruv.
• 1:27:27
  I don't know. I don't know what that is.
• 1:27:28
  I come from a world where you know, just OK, just stay with
• 1:27:31
  stay in your lane. I'm I'm very happy here.
• 1:27:33
  You know, like that was that I did a whole thing came to me
• 1:27:36
  later on in life and and they they spent Shabbos.
• 1:27:41
  They wherever I eat meals they can they ate by by Rabbi Afson
• 1:27:44
  and then lots of Shabbos. They said would can we take you
• 1:27:48
  out for a walk? Let's walk through the streets
• 1:27:50
  of Hong Kong. It was beautiful.
• 1:27:51
  Hong Kong is that time especially was it was owned by
• 1:27:54
  Britain. And then I notice that they're
• 1:27:56
  asking me questions about Ashqafa, all kinds of questions.
• 1:28:00
  Mushiya and the reason why I happened to be at that time in
• 1:28:04
  the right place because I'd been learning Ramchal's farm with the
• 1:28:07
  Rebbe for a bunch of years. It was very new at the time
• 1:28:10
  Ramchal came out. It was, it was translated by, by
• 1:28:16
  I forgot his name. He translated Hashem, he
• 1:28:18
  translated Asthuna. So we, we start today, the whole
• 1:28:21
  world is busy with it. But then it was beginning and I
• 1:28:23
  was very excited to share. And they were, they loved,
• 1:28:27
  apparently they were very cerebral.
• 1:28:28
  They were very bright people, very educated French, they're
• 1:28:33
  Frenchies by the people that they lived in Paris.
• 1:28:35
  And, and it got so far that I was going on Tuesday, that
• 1:28:42
  Tuesday, they asked me if it's OK, if they can, if they can
• 1:28:45
  drive me to the, they can go with me to the airport because
• 1:28:47
  they want to spend another two hours.
• 1:28:48
  They know I'm going to have two hours of wait.
• 1:28:50
  Can they spend another two hours with me?
• 1:28:53
  And I said sure. And and they sat with me for two
• 1:28:56
  hours again and again non-stop asking me question that you
• 1:28:58
  described about my life, about about what casitas is and every
• 1:29:02
  kind. She would throw a question from
• 1:29:03
  this side here and then he would interrupt and and ask throw a
• 1:29:06
  question. And we're getting closer and
• 1:29:08
  closer to the flight. And I'm saying the flight is to
• 1:29:10
  San Francisco. It's a 12/15 hour flight.
• 1:29:14
  They went, they had gone ahead and they had bought themselves
• 1:29:17
  tickets. They didn't tell me and they got
• 1:29:18
  me. No, no business class ticket.
• 1:29:20
  They just got the three front coach class tickets.
• 1:29:23
  I sat in the middle, the two of them sat on the side and I see
• 1:29:25
  that they're walking me to a plane and I'm saying, I mean,
• 1:29:28
  you got to go. No, no, no.
• 1:29:29
  So are we still walking you? That's the kind of people that
• 1:29:32
  they are very like very sneeze, but escorting nice, beautiful
• 1:29:37
  people, beautiful people, you know, very, very, very all kinds
• 1:29:41
  of you know that you can say that they dressed incredibly
• 1:29:43
  well, very expensively. They're that baseball hat was
• 1:29:46
  not that was not one of it was it was a Yankees cap designed
• 1:29:48
  by, you know, by 1. Clearly affluent.
• 1:29:51
  They were incredibly affluent, The sneakers.
• 1:29:53
  Today, everybody wear sneakers. Those days he was wearing
• 1:29:55
  sneakers, but his sneakers were Montana, which cost whatever.
• 1:29:59
  Anyway, I get to the plane and they're coming out to the plane,
• 1:30:03
  I suppose going, well, we're still going to be here.
• 1:30:05
  We, we asked, they said we can go on with you.
• 1:30:07
  And, and and they're sitting down with me.
• 1:30:10
  And then the plane is going to take off in about 1/2 hour, 45
• 1:30:13
  minutes. And I keep telling them, look,
• 1:30:14
  you're going to get there. Yeah, yeah, don't worry.
• 1:30:16
  A little while. And suddenly they put on their
• 1:30:18
  their seatbelts, their seatbelts and they're strapping.
• 1:30:21
  They're coming. They're here, she takes out a
• 1:30:24
  little one of these cassettes. You know, remember those little
• 1:30:27
  cassettes? Yes, one of these a 12 pack.
• 1:30:30
  She opens it up with her with her teeth and and and he brings
• 1:30:34
  out this little paper Cotter and he's talking to her in French.
• 1:30:37
  Give me, give me the tapes. And he's reaching over my back.
• 1:30:40
  They kept me going for 12 hours, non-stop, non-stop, non-stop,
• 1:30:46
  non-stop. And Fast forward, they got
• 1:30:51
  married and they got married, they found out exactly what the
• 1:30:55
  halakhas were and immediately they jumped into, they got into
• 1:30:59
  the halakhas and so on. And they have 18 other couples
• 1:31:05
  who were their best friends who became from because of them.
• 1:31:10
  Imagine this, right? And I was I officiated that
• 1:31:14
  their weddings got married in in Morocco and Casablanca and
• 1:31:17
  Marrakesh. And they took me, they flew me
• 1:31:19
  to places. Like I was always sitting over
• 1:31:21
  there, like the Golem over there was sitting, you know, I'm I was
• 1:31:23
  the rabbi, so to speak, nothing to do with music.
• 1:31:27
  Nothing Edna. They did not later when they
• 1:31:29
  found, oh, you write music. It's like years later.
• 1:31:31
  It was very This is the two of them.
• 1:31:35
  Unbelievable. That's crazy.
• 1:31:36
  They live, they're extraordinarily wealthy.
• 1:31:39
  They live, they live in Charlotte as they bought
• 1:31:41
  Argentina house. Argentina house was a, was a
• 1:31:43
  house that belonged to Argentina in 18180.
• 1:31:47
  Whatever. I think you had to pay $500,000
• 1:31:49
  just to be able to bid and then you couldn't change a single
• 1:31:52
  window. The, the, the house has one of
• 1:31:54
  these books. You'll never see a house like
• 1:31:56
  that anywhere. Like, I mean like every window
• 1:31:57
  has to be. You got to go to the original
• 1:31:59
  manufacturer, bring back the windows, every handle, every,
• 1:32:02
  you know. Anyway, he sits and learns day
• 1:32:05
  and night. He is Balma Kubel.
• 1:32:08
  He is. He's a holy person.
• 1:32:11
  You'll, you'll see him. It's it's the center.
• 1:32:13
  I'll send it to him also. You'll see.
• 1:32:15
  He's so shy. He thanks me for his whole life.
• 1:32:20
  He says how can I how can I even you know it's it's it's hard.
• 1:32:26
  It's hard to even it's hard, it's hard for me to to express
• 1:32:30
  you can't own you remember you asked me before how you
• 1:32:32
  connected. You can't own but what regards
• 1:32:35
  to the message. Fast forward, you want to deal
• 1:32:37
  with the messages, the messages. You never know when you can say
• 1:32:42
  a good word, a good word to A to a person and change worlds.
• 1:32:46
  Not, not, you know, Hashem showed me that time.
• 1:32:51
  You know, sometimes you do it and you don't get to see the the
• 1:32:53
  fruit of it, you know, but I got to see the fruit of it.
• 1:32:56
  You never know you really you the power that you have.
• 1:32:59
  If the moment is right like that happy birthday that he gave me
• 1:33:03
  before. If the moment is right and you
• 1:33:05
  say it with the and you with the right intent and it and the
• 1:33:10
  person's ready for it and it delivers you, you form a bomb
• 1:33:13
  that could change universes. We changed this universe.
• 1:33:17
  I mean, I, I look at him and he's 10 times.
• 1:33:20
  He was one of. His HE was one of the many
• 1:33:21
  messages that you got in general from HE.
• 1:33:24
  Was one out of 101. Out of hundreds and, and it's
• 1:33:27
  amazing that you were able to see all that encapsulated all
• 1:33:30
  that in that one message that he gave you.
• 1:33:32
  It brought you back that history.
• 1:33:33
  I can't imagine what that's like 300 times over.
• 1:33:36
  I'm just curious that that 12 hour recording, yes.
• 1:33:38
  Who has that which the? The whole trip.
• 1:33:41
  Recording. You got to get a hold of that
• 1:33:43
  recording. Yeah, but.
• 1:33:44
  No, no, no, they got to dig it. Up they never offered it so.
• 1:33:47
  We're going to Michael. It's, it's analog.
• 1:33:49
  There's no, there's no history record of anymore.
• 1:33:51
  I'll tell you what, what I'm taking away from this, what I'm
• 1:33:53
  really impressed by, it's really striking me is the fact that you
• 1:33:56
  actually engaged with them that very first moment that you met
• 1:33:59
  them and that you kept it going and that you allowed them to
• 1:34:02
  travel with you. And then on the plane and a lot
• 1:34:06
  of people, most people, definitely me, I'm like, I'll
• 1:34:10
  give you about 5 minutes of my attention and then I'm moving
• 1:34:12
  on. I'm here in business.
• 1:34:14
  I got stuff that is Bose quiet headphones exactly on.
• 1:34:16
  Purpose put on. Yeah, like to avoid people
• 1:34:19
  everybody knows on a plane, like you mind your own business.
• 1:34:22
  Don't ask me where I'm from. Don't ask me what I do.
• 1:34:24
  I know we're sitting right next to each other.
• 1:34:25
  I do the polite 5 minute hello, but I don't even do the hello.
• 1:34:28
  I do the hello. No, I'm very careful.
• 1:34:29
  I don't acknowledge that person. I don't.
• 1:34:31
  I sit back and I sit immediately and I make it very, very clear
• 1:34:34
  with my body language that we're about to travel four or five
• 1:34:37
  hours together. It's funny because we have
• 1:34:39
  nothing in common and don't get any ideas.
• 1:34:40
  But you were quite the opposite. And you know what a lesson, what
• 1:34:44
  a lesson to be that you're missing out potentially on some
• 1:34:47
  of the greatest moments in life and some of the biggest
• 1:34:49
  achievements that 20-30 years later, you get to see everything
• 1:34:55
  that happened in between that moment and how it just
• 1:34:58
  completely changed their world and potentially for their kids
• 1:35:01
  and for families members that are going to be built from this
• 1:35:05
  all because of your act of kindness for 12/15/20 hours that
• 1:35:08
  you did. It's just, I'm thinking back
• 1:35:10
  now, Michael, about we need to have our eyes open more.
• 1:35:14
  There's opportunity that's out there that we're missing out on
• 1:35:16
  because we're not opening our minds and because we're sucked
• 1:35:19
  into our own little worlds. And if we allow others in the
• 1:35:23
  world would be a better place for.
• 1:35:24
  And you're an amazing and thank you for sharing that story.
• 1:35:27
  What an excellent crazy story. It's it's just, it's mind
• 1:35:31
  boggling. So Ro congratulations to you, by
• 1:35:33
  the way, I'm such an amazing feat of putting so many videos
• 1:35:36
  to That's a crazy job, by the way, that in of itself it's a
• 1:35:40
  beautiful gift to be able to give to someone.
• 1:35:42
  I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm. The biggest honor of my life?
• 1:35:45
  Whatever. I gave my father another really
• 1:35:47
  special gift. She's.
• 1:35:48
  That I worked on for years, but this changed my life in such a
• 1:35:55
  significant way I can't even begin to tell you.
• 1:35:57
  Just putting this video together, but I want to add one
• 1:36:00
  thing first that my father was saying before about this
• 1:36:02
  incredible couple. What he's not telling you is
• 1:36:06
  that when they came back to America and brought another
• 1:36:09
  couple with them who were equally as incredible, they
• 1:36:13
  practically moved into our home for at least a year.
• 1:36:16
  I think every single. Job is every time to the degree.
• 1:36:20
  Not only that, my father bought jalabas.
• 1:36:23
  I don't know if you know what they are.
• 1:36:24
  That's what Moroccan religious Jews.
• 1:36:26
  We learned. We learned.
• 1:36:27
  All there's long roads for. Make them feel.
• 1:36:30
  Like all, there's mirrors. For all of us, for.
• 1:36:32
  Years, all the kids. Where my?
• 1:36:34
  Olds mirrors. Family.
• 1:36:35
  He was like, what is up with this family?
• 1:36:38
  Father comes, the boys come home from shul, the seven boys come
• 1:36:40
  there, they all go upstairs and my mother and I are already
• 1:36:43
  wearing our jalabas. And they all changed their life.
• 1:36:45
  Just to make them feel comfortable.
• 1:36:46
  They weren't. Even the pet.
• 1:36:47
  They weren't even. They moved to Israel already.
• 1:36:49
  Oh. Stop it.
• 1:36:50
  You incorporated it even while they were gone.
• 1:36:52
  Yeah, yeah. You can't just was a very that
• 1:36:56
  we still have. Well, yeah, I wanted my children
• 1:36:59
  to understand. You see, sadly, when I started
• 1:37:01
  travelling to Israel, I realized that there's a division between
• 1:37:04
  various, various races over there, which I didn't.
• 1:37:07
  We don't understand it from here.
• 1:37:09
  We don't understand it because we're the house we're and also
• 1:37:11
  today it's not, it's not as intense as it was in those days.
• 1:37:15
  And the most beautiful, classiest, warmest, most amazing
• 1:37:20
  people that I had that I met in Israel were Eden, from from the
• 1:37:24
  Moroccan world and from the what kind of what kind of human
• 1:37:27
  beings, what kind of they? Have a beautiful culture.
• 1:37:29
  It's it's a we're kind of cooking what kind of food?
• 1:37:32
  Arguably the most traced back right in the.
• 1:37:35
  No, not necessarily. The Middle Eastern culture.
• 1:37:37
  We all have, you know, it's a very interesting thing.
• 1:37:40
  If I've had one more thing, you know the the world questions,
• 1:37:44
  where is Fardim and and Ashkenazim?
• 1:37:46
  Well, where is it? Where did that come from?
• 1:37:47
  Moshebena was this Fardi? Where was that?
• 1:37:50
  Split. Where was that split?
• 1:37:51
  Right. So after research I realized
• 1:37:53
  something amazing. There was no What happened was
• 1:37:55
  Rav Hai Goon was the last Rasha Shiva in bubble.
• 1:37:59
  Bubble had a yeshiva from the first carbon based on English
• 1:38:03
  that the yeshiva was the longest standing yeshiva in history.
• 1:38:06
  It was 1500 years when it got so bad in in in Iraq at the time in
• 1:38:11
  in Boble that Eden could no longer make a living do
• 1:38:13
  business. Ravi Ravi gun was the last the
• 1:38:17
  last gun he realized he has to close the door of the yeshiva.
• 1:38:21
  So he told the he told the the the the boys in the yeshiva who
• 1:38:24
  were some of the who's the greatest the greatest.
• 1:38:27
  These were the before they reshine him.
• 1:38:29
  These were in the guy in the world.
• 1:38:30
  And he says, look, we no longer can do, but I think we have to
• 1:38:33
  leave this place. And what happened was half the
• 1:38:37
  the, the Shiva went N through Turkey and into Europe and wound
• 1:38:43
  up in in what's called Ashkenaz, which was Germany, France.
• 1:38:47
  France is Ashkenaz by the way. Rashi was Ashkenaz the Ashkenaz
• 1:38:53
  and Rashi's French. But anyway, people think French
• 1:38:55
  is is farting, it's not it. Kind of is now.
• 1:38:58
  And then the other half of the guys went, went South and they
• 1:39:01
  went through north of Egypt, north of Tunisia, Algeria, and
• 1:39:05
  they found those in Morocco. And then they passed the Straits
• 1:39:08
  of Gibraltar into Spain. And the problem was that on the
• 1:39:11
  top of Spain separating Europe, there is the Andes mountain
• 1:39:15
  range, which is uncrossable. And what would happen was Ravi,
• 1:39:18
  as long as he lived, he would go one Yontiff, he would visit us
• 1:39:22
  to meet him up north in, in in the European area and 11
• 1:39:26
  Yontiff, he would visit through Spain.
• 1:39:29
  And this is the way it happened. And, and as the years went, when
• 1:39:31
  he passed, eventually they started having garden.
• 1:39:35
  No, that's the rabbi said this. No, he said that.
• 1:39:37
  No, he said this. No, he said that.
• 1:39:38
  Before you know it, that's it. There is no such a thing.
• 1:39:41
  It's it's not a real, it's not a real division.
• 1:39:44
  It's thanks. For explaining that by the way,
• 1:39:46
  I. Made I made a joke, Rav Hai
• 1:39:48
  goon. I mean, I'm not if you if you're
• 1:39:50
  allowed to say that, but Rav hai, the reason it's called Rav
• 1:39:52
  Hai goon because each one said hi.
• 1:39:54
  No, he said this. No, he said this.
• 1:39:56
  No, he said this. How is this in, in, in, in
• 1:40:00
  Aramaic, you know? Yeah.
• 1:40:01
  Hey, So that's. ChatGPT knew that you're fluent
• 1:40:04
  in Aramaic, Yeah, so they picked that one.
• 1:40:06
  You know what they picked up on that one?
• 1:40:08
  I love this thing. I was just you were going to say
• 1:40:10
  that. Oh my God.
• 1:40:11
  She Michael. Michael.
• 1:40:13
  Yeah, yeah, Sometimes it happens podcast.
• 1:40:15
  Sometimes we have a kumbaya you. Know, I was just looking at
• 1:40:17
  rookie and I was saying, you know, I was looking at like,
• 1:40:20
  there comes a time in our life that Hashem gives you a gift.
• 1:40:23
  Yeah, you got to open your hands and take it.
• 1:40:25
  You know, I I have a friend of mine.
• 1:40:26
  I'm going to call him out here. His name is Pinky Wiederman.
• 1:40:28
  Sorry, Pinky. I'm going to breaking vending.
• 1:40:30
  Breaking vending. He got, he got a bracha from
• 1:40:33
  someone and he physically opens his hands and I'm watching him
• 1:40:37
  do this motion physically of accepting, receiving the
• 1:40:40
  blessing. And I realized that the physical
• 1:40:43
  part of it, it manifested into the emotional, into the
• 1:40:46
  spiritual, and he was just accepting it.
• 1:40:49
  It's. Yeah, I just.
• 1:40:52
  And you never know when you get that blessing that because it
• 1:40:54
  says in the condom, Shane Le Shaw, everybody has his moment
• 1:40:57
  and if he's got it, then he blesses you.
• 1:41:00
  That's right. So I'm saying thank gosh, Shem,
• 1:41:02
  for this moment that we have. I'm opening it up physically,
• 1:41:05
  emotionally, spiritually, mentally.
• 1:41:07
  That rookie's here in the room. With you and you have this
• 1:41:09
  incredible relationship. And incredible.
• 1:41:12
  I envy that. I hope that one day I'll have
• 1:41:13
  that with with my daughters. You got to be.
• 1:41:15
  You got a later. Age to.
• 1:41:16
  Be a life to you. It'll be up to you.
• 1:41:19
  It's not entirely up to you. It's a good a lot of things have
• 1:41:21
  to fall into place as well. You need a lot of mazel alone.
• 1:41:24
  The way he agrees with. The commanders amount of mazel,
• 1:41:26
  but you still need it. It's up to you.
• 1:41:27
  Any of you other kids, other children picked up on your
• 1:41:30
  passion and. Passion of music.
• 1:41:32
  Of music and a continuing of that.
• 1:41:33
  In terms of love, In terms of music, love or yeah.
• 1:41:36
  But in terms of playing or writing, yeah, I, I once heard
• 1:41:42
  something from, from somebody that if, and I don't know if
• 1:41:45
  it's true, but they said that if, if a person is very much in
• 1:41:48
  a certain area, it's the children who are amazing
• 1:41:53
  children. They they want to go on their
• 1:41:57
  own. They want to be, they want to be
• 1:41:58
  successful in something else. And the grandchildren don't have
• 1:42:02
  that feeling anymore. They come back and they come
• 1:42:04
  back. That's very interesting.
• 1:42:05
  So we have we have this rookie has children that are are
• 1:42:08
  musical. You know what we have in front
• 1:42:10
  of us, though I, I wouldn't call it anything short of harmonious.
• 1:42:13
  The fact that rookie is here and you're here.
• 1:42:14
  So I want to ask you, Ruhi, because you're here on the mic
• 1:42:17
  and I'm going to take this opportunity and ask you what was
• 1:42:19
  your favorite from the 300 or pick something that stood out to
• 1:42:22
  you that you could share with us.
• 1:42:24
  We're in fact, let's have another podcast come back for
• 1:42:27
  another two hours. But but if you could share with
• 1:42:29
  us, Ruhi, please. It's not a particular except for
• 1:42:33
  anything, but when I started this project a little over a
• 1:42:36
  year, I would say about February of the previous year.
• 1:42:39
  And my my father's English birthday is in the end of May
• 1:42:42
  and it's your birthday's Afidi's at the shoe S.
• 1:42:45
  So you know, I just knew it's going to take time.
• 1:42:47
  I didn't dream it would turn into this.
• 1:42:49
  I thought I got 30-40 clips, you know, but it just got bigger and
• 1:42:51
  bigger. And literally before I started
• 1:42:55
  the project, I literally took a moment I'd avitash them.
• 1:42:57
  And I said please. I know it's up to you, whatever
• 1:43:00
  you decide, but I don't want every clip to just be about his
• 1:43:03
  music. I want it to be about who my
• 1:43:06
  father is as a person, as an individual, as the impact he's
• 1:43:10
  made on not only Kylie saw as a whole, but even more so on so
• 1:43:15
  many individuals in a private way that he'll never, he won't
• 1:43:18
  say. He won't say bad himself.
• 1:43:19
  So I'm gonna tell you that I have the 207 clips that made it
• 1:43:24
  onto the video. Forget about the ones he hasn't
• 1:43:25
  even seen yet. I would say at least fifty of
• 1:43:29
  them at least. OK, and I was bawling just
• 1:43:34
  watching them. OK, We're all about how one up
• 1:43:39
  to maybe 3 conversations with my father changed their life in a
• 1:43:44
  capacity that they never missed a day of learning from that day
• 1:43:48
  on until current. I'm talking about anybody in the
• 1:43:52
  ages of 50 all the way up to mid 70s and that to me, that was
• 1:44:01
  what I was dreaming for. Well, but that's another.
• 1:44:03
  That's another program. Yeah, that was.
• 1:44:05
  That's what I wanted to say about the video my.
• 1:44:08
  Well, what people didn't see, what people didn't see in the
• 1:44:10
  Gershi Moskowitz podcast that we released now is that when he
• 1:44:14
  called you, which was very random out of the blue.
• 1:44:17
  I have to apologize about that. I I think we're changing our
• 1:44:19
  policy a little bit when it comes to certain.
• 1:44:21
  People. But he did it.
• 1:44:21
  It was the right way. Oh, sure, of course it was the
• 1:44:24
  right way. I started telling you this
• 1:44:26
  earlier that the way you had Gershi make the the introduction
• 1:44:32
  and the way he did it was the right way to for it to be done.
• 1:44:36
  If somebody would have asked me, would you be, would you consider
• 1:44:40
  doing a podcast with people that you know, they're, they're kind
• 1:44:42
  of in your industry and I don't know if you know them well.
• 1:44:45
  And I don't know whether I would be not there not could have
• 1:44:49
  anything against it, but I wouldn't have been excited and
• 1:44:52
  interested in it, you know, and but the way Gershi did it, was
• 1:44:55
  he he you know, he puts he has that face of his and he put it
• 1:45:00
  in front of the camera. He was authentic.
• 1:45:01
  Well, thank you. Yeah, it was genuine.
• 1:45:03
  It was in real time, you know, The adrenaline was rushing, you
• 1:45:05
  know, and there was. I want to say first of all,
• 1:45:08
  thank you to Gershi. And I want to mention for those
• 1:45:09
  who didn't see, you were learning, you were, you were
• 1:45:13
  learning. It was and you had a face on
• 1:45:16
  that I saw on video that was in another hemisphere.
• 1:45:20
  You're in a spot. And and what Rookie is saying,
• 1:45:22
  it's so true and I'm curious about that.
• 1:45:24
  It's that's you're, you're a part of your world, obviously.
• 1:45:27
  That's my world. That is your world.
• 1:45:28
  That's my world. That that is the way, that that
• 1:45:30
  is where that's the journey and the and the stops among the way
• 1:45:34
  are the texts that I find along this way, but it's really, it
• 1:45:38
  comes from there. Absolutely beautiful.
• 1:45:40
  I love that. Thank God.
• 1:45:41
  You know, we have to wrap it up, but there's two things I want to
• 1:45:43
  do before we leave. So, you know, not for nothing we
• 1:45:48
  do. We're not disappointed.
• 1:45:49
  Were you? Disappointed.
• 1:45:51
  Let me tell you something, this was really awesome for me more
• 1:45:55
  than it was for Michael. Even though Michael is a super
• 1:45:57
  fan of yours, he lives and breathes music and you're like
• 1:46:00
  the you are just the actual the high up echel launches of music.
• 1:46:04
  Like you are part of that history.
• 1:46:06
  The Mount Everest just now. I literally feel that but.
• 1:46:09
  For me, I want you to know from and a lot of people listening
• 1:46:11
  that are my age and in my circle, you were always somewhat
• 1:46:15
  of, you know, a distant person, like a name that we've heard of,
• 1:46:19
  But I got to sit with you. Like there's so much depth to
• 1:46:21
  you. You're you're a real person.
• 1:46:23
  It goes way beyond music, your accomplishments in life, which
• 1:46:25
  is the family man and as a business owner and like, you
• 1:46:28
  know, I think a lot of people are going to be Wow, Justin
• 1:46:30
  Green is is so many layers to him and and it's it's
• 1:46:33
  inspirational. It really is because, you know,
• 1:46:35
  you couldn't, you know, be not just, you know, in one lane.
• 1:46:38
  And that's what you're, you know, that's what you're going
• 1:46:40
  to be known for, but you're so diverse and so many aspects to
• 1:46:43
  what we're on cover here. I appreciate you opening up.
• 1:46:45
  I appreciate you allowing me to see your personality and
• 1:46:47
  allowing me to just, you know, get to know you.
• 1:46:49
  And I think that's what our viewers are going to really
• 1:46:51
  appreciate. And I think more people in your
• 1:46:53
  position that have that have been out there for so long to
• 1:46:56
  humanize themselves and to be to be more in touch with with
• 1:47:00
  everyone so we could all see we're all in this together.
• 1:47:02
  We're all part of the same circle, part of the same team.
• 1:47:05
  I think it's beautiful. A.
• 1:47:05
  Great joy in life is when two people connect.
• 1:47:09
  So you're a new, you're a new person for me.
• 1:47:11
  You're a new world for me. So I'm going home tonight a
• 1:47:15
  much, much richer person than I than I, than I was on the way
• 1:47:18
  in. There you go.
• 1:47:19
  Clearly. I mean, Michael came out to
• 1:47:21
  welcome me in the car and I complimented him on his, on his
• 1:47:25
  Cologne on this. I said I took a shower for you.
• 1:47:29
  I was really mad. I'm not shy to to share the fact
• 1:47:33
  that I was super, super excited to see you and I literally took
• 1:47:36
  a shower for you. And, you know, I didn't get a
• 1:47:39
  manicure though. And I'm looking at your nails.
• 1:47:41
  You have nice nails, by the way. Yeah.
• 1:47:43
  I mean, you do manicures. Sure, sure.
• 1:47:46
  It's like what, every month? Two weeks?
• 1:47:49
  Month you You were born in the woods.
• 1:47:55
  I love that as. You know we.
• 1:47:59
  We spoke about earlier about your music message and we did
• 1:48:02
  say that and we spoke a little bit about business, not not too
• 1:48:04
  much, but just enough flavour for you to have a message in
• 1:48:06
  business. And you mentioned to me
• 1:48:08
  something about what your mother said to you.
• 1:48:09
  It really moved me and was off the ear and I would love for you
• 1:48:12
  to have the opportunity to share that with the audience.
• 1:48:14
  OK, but I didn't understand that when she said it to me at the
• 1:48:17
  time. But as the years went by, you
• 1:48:22
  know, that's a message that we once had a discussion about
• 1:48:25
  winning, about buying Lotto. And I remember it was that time
• 1:48:28
  that Lotto was very big, Like it was one of those weeks that
• 1:48:32
  people hadn't won. And, and I asked her, look, I'm
• 1:48:36
  thinking of I'm taking $5 and buying 5 because everybody
• 1:48:39
  around me and shul, everybody was saying, come on, it's, it's
• 1:48:41
  $100 million, five dollars. I mean, what?
• 1:48:44
  So you lost $5, What's a big deal?
• 1:48:46
  And but then you could win. And then I asked my mother, what
• 1:48:49
  do you think? She says you could spend the
• 1:48:54
  $5.00, but God forbid if you win, you're it's what are you
• 1:48:57
  going to do then? So I said, So what does that
• 1:49:00
  mean? What I'm going to do?
• 1:49:00
  I I have a she says, but what's considered a a great salary, a
• 1:49:06
  great amount of money to make to be able to bring home, you know,
• 1:49:10
  at the time, at the time I remember, how can I know 10 kids
• 1:49:13
  already? Leanne Horror.
• 1:49:16
  They should all be, isn't And five, I said 5, I can bring home
• 1:49:20
  500,000. That was the dream, $500,000 a
• 1:49:23
  year if I could bring it home. And some will have money for all
• 1:49:26
  the camps and all the schools and everything.
• 1:49:29
  So she says, imagine he was Bashir to you to make $500,000
• 1:49:32
  this year and then you won $100 million.
• 1:49:37
  Now what that means is before Rosh Hashanah of next year, you
• 1:49:39
  have to lose 999 and a half million dollars.
• 1:49:46
  So let's talk about like this. Let's talk about what kind of a
• 1:49:48
  family life you have a business, you have people that are
• 1:49:52
  working. Imagine what it's like when, God
• 1:49:54
  forbid, a person's sees the, the deterioration of that because
• 1:49:59
  you a person gets what I was bashed.
• 1:50:01
  You can't get a penny more than what's bashed really.
• 1:50:04
  And believe me, I want to tell you something a lot of young
• 1:50:07
  people don't know that they think there's a way to think.
• 1:50:09
  You know, God has a Beckettcher and he'd, you know, the
• 1:50:11
  Becketcher in the back has these back pockets.
• 1:50:14
  And if when he's not looking, you can stick your hand down in
• 1:50:17
  there. You can grab out a whole bunch
• 1:50:18
  of money that he, that Cavallochol did not notice.
• 1:50:22
  No such a thing. Every penny is there.
• 1:50:24
  So you just said that $500,000 would be wonderful.
• 1:50:28
  So God forbid you'd win 100 million.
• 1:50:31
  Imagine a life where a person loses.
• 1:50:33
  Nice. So be happy with your $500,000 I
• 1:50:37
  that's what I think she's it's. One of the best messages I've
• 1:50:39
  ever received and honestly it's it's like, you know, Daenu of
• 1:50:43
  making a podcast like this just to get a message out there like
• 1:50:45
  that. Who before I let you go, who's
• 1:50:48
  your pick that we're calling on the phone right now.
• 1:50:50
  It should be a good guess for the podcast somebody.
• 1:50:53
  There somebody that would be able to stand up to the two of
• 1:50:58
  you. You don't want somebody wilting.
• 1:51:00
  That bad? It will think, will think like
• 1:51:02
  1/2 an hour saying I, I, I have to, I have to have to go out.
• 1:51:06
  I'm sure you could come up with somebody.
• 1:51:09
  Is there anyone that pops into your head?
• 1:51:11
  That can also enhance our lives and our listeners lives for
• 1:51:14
  growth, personally, professionally, and you've done
• 1:51:17
  a stellar job at that. People are going to have tough
• 1:51:19
  shoes to fill after this one, but you've really like you said,
• 1:51:22
  you're going home tonight. You feel richer because I, I, I
• 1:51:25
  feel richer as well. I, I feel more full.
• 1:51:27
  I feel full, I feel full. I feel like I'm going to go home
• 1:51:29
  and like, I feel good about myself.
• 1:51:30
  Like this was, this was, I mean. If someone comes to your mind,
• 1:51:33
  great, if not, it's OK, but. I have, I have somebody who I
• 1:51:37
  who, if you'd be willing, I think it would be very.
• 1:51:39
  Who is that? His name is Effie brand.
• 1:51:42
  He lives in give a time. He comes to he comes to here
• 1:51:45
  very often. He's one of the he's the one who
• 1:51:47
  designed the software for she'll which would that work, which
• 1:51:54
  would then would then became a saleable company to when they
• 1:51:58
  made their sale. So he he designs the most is
• 1:52:02
  called limbs here there limbs lab information management
• 1:52:05
  software. That is the that's you know, you
• 1:52:08
  know when a person take takes a blood test and then it goes into
• 1:52:11
  a 2 and then prints out a barcode that you put it into the
• 1:52:14
  machine and it it travels and it comes out in the other side,
• 1:52:17
  gives you all, all the results, calls the doctor or sends his
• 1:52:20
  guy an e-mail. You know one of those that it's
• 1:52:22
  called, it's a very, very big, he's one of the top he out
• 1:52:26
  OF160180 hospitals, labs in Israel.
• 1:52:29
  I think A150160 have his soft software.
• 1:52:33
  He would have been an American that would have closed them down
• 1:52:35
  already because it would be antitrust.
• 1:52:36
  He's in Israel though, so you can't wake him up now.
• 1:52:38
  You can't wake him up now. I'm saying probably not, but you
• 1:52:42
  can. You can, you can ask him to join
• 1:52:44
  us. I would love that the.
• 1:52:45
  Smartest person that I know. Wow, that's high praises.
• 1:52:49
  Yeah, so he so he went to MIT and and he is he was a a jumped
• 1:52:54
  out of airplanes in, in in the 73 war.
• 1:52:57
  He's and he's just a wonderful loves music and loves my music
• 1:53:01
  and loves to learn and loves. I'll tell you will be also.
• 1:53:04
  I'm excited to have him on. If you can get him on, that'll
• 1:53:06
  be fantastic. Thank you so much.
• 1:53:07
  He knows every every Beatles song.
• 1:53:09
  He knows the lyric of every Hebrew song.
• 1:53:11
  He knows the he. Is he's I'm excited as we wrap
• 1:53:14
  up here, I want to echo what Oshi said and, and really thank
• 1:53:17
  you again for coming and really sharing with us a side of you
• 1:53:20
  that I don't think anyone's really heard before.
• 1:53:22
  And it's really I'm, I'm just honored.
• 1:53:24
  Thank you. And I really, I really feel
• 1:53:26
  great about. It I've gotten from you guys as
• 1:53:28
  much as you've gotten. From you know.
• 1:53:29
  What I'm I'm not being, I'm not being just reciprocal, I'm
• 1:53:33
  telling you. I appreciate that.
• 1:53:34
  I appreciate. That time I didn't look at my
• 1:53:36
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• 1:53:39
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• 1:53:42
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• 1:53:45
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• 1:53:47
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• 1:53:49
  Wow, wow.