Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #280 - Is Tucker Carlson Hinting Trump Is the Antichrist?
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- 0:00Tucker Carlson did the unthinkable yesterday in the video he released comparing
- 0:05Donald Trump to the Antichrist.
- 0:07I know this is not a new concept of throwing Donald Trump into the mix.
- 0:12A lot of people have been thrown into that.
- 0:13And I think it's a recurring thing because throughout human history,
- 0:17since the time of the apostles,
- 0:19there has been figures of a person that looked like the man described in the
- 0:25New Testament, a figure that would oppose Jesus Christ,
- 0:29put himself in the place of Jesus Christ.
- 0:31John the Apostle, it seemed like he made the comparison of Emperor Nero,
- 0:36somebody who arises up in that vein, in that spirit.
- 0:41And you could see like in the 15th century or the 16th century,
- 0:45the reformers, they thought the Pope was the Antichrist. That was who they pinned it on.
- 0:50And in the last century, the 20th century, everybody would have thought Hitler was the Antichrist.
- 0:55I think it's because since the time of the apostles, there's been a spirit of
- 0:59Antichrist that has been prevalent.
- 1:01And John the Apostle mentioned that.
- 1:04But whenever I'm not friends with somebody, I don't immediately go to them being the Antichrist.
- 1:10But Tucker Carlson, it seems like he's making that comparison.
- 1:14That's unmistakably Jesus, the Christian Messiah, the man
- 1:17god at the center of christianity with his arm around donald
- 1:20trump basically saying you go trump i'm on
- 1:23your side so all of that in a little over a week what does it mean because it
- 1:29certainly means something this isn't so much a couple of memes these are these
- 1:34are icons it's iconography these are attempts to send a statement about faith
- 1:38what statement is the president sending Well, not a coherent one.
- 1:42It doesn't actually add up to a theology.
- 1:45It's mockery. He's mocking Jesus. He's making fun of Christianity.
- 1:49The central figure of the religion is being held up,
- 1:53For mockery, of course. And I
- 1:55would have to say Donald Trump has put some crazy memes out there lately.
- 1:59And the whole where he would look like Jesus. I mean, when I saw that,
- 2:03I immediately said, yeah, he looks like Jesus.
- 2:06Donald Trump says he was a doctor. He's changed his wording a couple times.
- 2:11I really think that he probably wasn't paying attention and he just put it out
- 2:15there. He might have in his mind thought.
- 2:17He probably has change of mind all the time in his head and is probably not
- 2:21paying too close attention.
- 2:23He might have thought he was a doctor. He was just healing somebody and didn't notice.
- 2:27Because, I mean, is Donald Trump that familiar with the New Testament,
- 2:30with Jesus, how it is portrayed about him?
- 2:34It really is. I think everybody jumps on the point that he doesn't know anything about the Bible.
- 2:38He's just a Christian in name only. I think Donald Trump cares about legacy.
- 2:43He cares about political power.
- 2:45He cares about what people think of him. He's not really concerned with Jesus
- 2:50necessarily. I don't know his heart, but he probably just threw it out there
- 2:54because he pulled it down. He took it down.
- 2:57Donald Trump doesn't, he's like removed tweets that he puts out there.
- 3:02He doesn't do that all the time.
- 3:03For him to recognize that he effed up, which he did, just, I think he probably
- 3:10just misstepped right there.
- 3:11All right. This next comparison that Tucker puts on here is that he actually
- 3:16goes to the Bible and brings up the passage in 2 Thessalonians about the man of lawlessness.
- 3:23You're going to hear that Jesus is coming back. Don't believe what you hear.
- 3:26A bunch of things have to happen before he returns to earth,
- 3:29redeems the world, history ends.
- 3:31And you'll know that he's coming by these events. And among them will be the
- 3:34rise of a figure he describes as the man of lawlessness, sometimes describes as the antichrist.
- 3:40But the man of lawlessness is the phrase from his second letter to the Thessalonians.
- 3:44And he says this, there will be a great rebellion against God led by that man of lawlessness.
- 3:48This man, quote, will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is
- 3:52called God or is worshiped so that he sets himself up in God's temple,
- 3:56proclaiming himself to be God. He will pose as God.
- 3:59He will mock other gods and put himself in their place.
- 4:03That's from the second letter to the Thessalonians. But that's not the first
- 4:06place in the Bible, Old and New Testaments, where something like this is described.
- 4:09Variations of this are in a number of prophecies in what Christians call the
- 4:12Old Testament, including those contained in the book of Daniel.
- 4:16The prophet Daniel describes something very much like this at the end of history.
- 4:19And he's describing this period, really, as is so often described in the prophets,
- 4:23as punishment, punishment for faithlessness and sin. God's people are being
- 4:27punished for not following God.
- 4:28So making the comparison, I get it. I get it.
- 4:32I have my views of who the Antichrist is, but I think throughout history,
- 4:35people that are in the church have looked at this and said, who is it?
- 4:39Who is it? I don't think we're really gonna just get it right because everybody's gotten it wrong so far.
- 4:45And whenever it happens, this person that rises up is going to look so good.
- 4:50He's going to look like a man of peace. Everybody loves him.
- 4:54And he does amazing things because there's massive deception going on.
- 4:59And it is like this recurring thing of just, it's starting up and everything
- 5:03builds up to a point and then it just fades and nothing ever,
- 5:07nothing really happens. Nothing ever happens.
- 5:10Donald Trump, he just, he looks like, obviously, I mean, he's putting pictures
- 5:14out of him like he's Jesus.
- 5:16But is that like, is that the qualification that it is? Is the Antichrist going
- 5:21to come along and say, I'm Jesus?
- 5:23Tucker just read the man of lawlessness is going to walk into the temple of God.
- 5:29That means there's going to be a temple of God. And you can try to reimagine
- 5:33and try to re like interpret that as the temple of God is just in Rome or is just within us.
- 5:40You know, it's Paul had in mind the temple was a thing when he was writing that
- 5:45the second temple was still constructed. It hadn't been demolished yet.
- 5:49So he saw that this man of lawlessness would walk into the physical temple of
- 5:55the most high God and desecrate it, set up the abomination of desolation.
- 6:00I think we can kind of get what this is going to, where this is going.
- 6:04But like, I just see it as that there is this disconnect, this animosity between,
- 6:11I would say, within the church, there's false Christians, there's true Christians.
- 6:15And a while back, Milo Yiannopoulos, he put out a tweet that I think it just
- 6:21got swept under the rug, but it was very like, very prognosticating.
- 6:26And it was very aware of the situation. And he was doing it from his advantage as a Roman Catholic.
- 6:33But he said, in this world, it is the Roman Catholics and Islam Muslims versus Protestants and Jews.
- 6:42And that is a very boiled down synopsis of the situation. And I would just say
- 6:47like, I'm not just saying that Protestants got it right or Catholics got it wrong.
- 6:52I'm not even necessarily Protestant. I wouldn't claim that. I wouldn't claim I'm a Protestant.
- 6:56I believe in Jesus. I believe in what the apostles taught.
- 7:00I think there's truth and error in every Christian's viewpoint.
- 7:04And these are just artificial edifices that we've constructed to just separate the body of Christ.
- 7:11It was happening in the New Testament and it's happening now to a much greater degree.
- 7:16But him saying that, Islam and Roman Catholics joining together,
- 7:20I do see that because there are Catholics in the church that sympathize extremely
- 7:26with Islam, with Muslims.
- 7:30And there is a connection that is taking place with them.
- 7:33And who do we see at the end of the age that is the ones that are committing
- 7:38massive genocide of Christians and people that are followers of the true God?
- 7:46It's people that are beheading people which is
- 7:49the religion that beheads people it's islam islam
- 7:53christians don't behead people jews don't
- 7:56behead people it's islam that beheads people so we it's the writings on the
- 8:03wall of who what's going to happen in the future and i i just see that it's
- 8:06the the apostles and god he calls the people the true people of god to come
- 8:12out come out of the whore of Babylon,
- 8:15get out of there, come out of the false church.
- 8:17I'm not saying the Roman Catholic church is the false church.
- 8:20I'm saying that anyone that buys into this ideology at the end of the age that
- 8:23embraces this false figure is going to be the false church, whatever it is,
- 8:28Christians in name only.
- 8:29But it is certainly interesting that the Roman Catholics are identifying so
- 8:33much and sympathizing with Islam.
- 8:37And I just think that, I'm not saying the Jews got everything correct,
- 8:40but there, it's just, it's just, we've, we've really fudged this up throughout
- 8:45the years. And it started initially in the first century.
- 8:48Christians, they removed, they saw what Jesus, it's primarily Gentiles that
- 8:54just misunderstanding Jesus's message,
- 8:57misunderstanding Paul's message and what he was saying, because it's this context
- 9:02of, it's removing all distinction.
- 9:05And it's a distinction missionless theology that sees that Jew and Gentile are exactly the same.
- 9:11And that was the message. That is the message that Gentiles ran with because
- 9:15they are not interpreting Paul correctly.
- 9:18And so they've removed all distinctions. They've made everybody homogenized.
- 9:23And now going forward, it's like you're doing it in both ways, in both camps.
- 9:29You're running in a direction of saying that Jesus said that all people are one.
- 9:35And then on the other side, people are saying that all people are.
- 9:39It's just like, we have to get back to this distinction theology,
- 9:42that there is a distinction between Jews and Gentiles.
- 9:46And I think that's what it really comes down to and what makes us not interpret
- 9:50the New Testament correctly.
- 9:51We are misunderstanding what the apostles set forward and got us going with,
- 9:57because they were combating the
- 9:59serious heresy of saying that Jews have an upper hand of getting to God,
- 10:05of being in Christ, of inheriting the world to come.
- 10:09And this is the way that I just see a lot of people are running with this.
- 10:14And it's just reframing everything that we're doing in the body of Christ.
- 10:19We're running on ways that maybe God didn't necessarily want us to go about doing this.
- 10:25I kind of lost my train of thought, and I just kept going there.
- 10:28And you're like, whoa, yeah, I understand.
- 10:30But I just think this idea of Donald Trump as the Antichrist,
- 10:34it's just he's a person that kind of is emblematic of that.
- 10:37He seems like that because, oh, yeah, obviously.
- 10:41I have my view of who it is, but it's like I'm probably going to be wrong because
- 10:45every Christian throughout history, we always just think we're the ones that
- 10:48Jesus is going to come back. I thought that as myself.
- 10:51But really, we don't know when Jesus is going to come back.
- 10:55But I just see it as, it's just, let's be faithful to the text.
- 10:58What is the text in the Bible describe as the outcome of all this?
- 11:03I think I'm wearing a good shirt. I'm sorry. I'm sorry because I just lost,
- 11:07I wouldn't completely, have you ever get that where you're just like talking
- 11:10and then you're realizing that you're talking and then you just got to keep
- 11:12talking because you can't acknowledge that you're talking.
- 11:14I think that happens to me quite a bit, but I went into that trance and I'm like, all right. Okay.
- 11:20Well, I went off the deep in there. And then, yeah, it just feels weird.
- 11:24But that's why I wouldn't have it any other way. Because if I was doing this
- 11:28and I wasn't live, I would go in and I would edit all this out and just remove it and whatever.
- 11:33It's funner to be live in the moment because then you can look at yourself and
- 11:37say, wow, you're crazy, man.
- 11:40I'm not saying everything is crazy. I have an actual understanding of this.
- 11:44But I think sometimes you just get where you're talking.
- 11:46And a lot of people don't acknowledge that. And I think maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you shouldn't.
- 11:51All right. Well, let me know what you think. Is Trump the Antichrist?
- 11:55I'm going to say no. I'm going to go with a no there. I have my viewpoints and
- 11:59I've mentioned who I think is going to fit that.
- 12:02And it is kind of interesting that coming up at the White House Correspondents
- 12:07Dinner of what's going to be taking place there.
- 12:10I'm not even going to go down there because I don't really want to mention who I think.
- 12:13Again, I don't even want to talk about that. I've said who it is.
- 12:16You can go back and find who I think it is and who I think it will be.
- 12:20But it might not even be within our generation. It might not even be within
- 12:23our lifetimes. It might be somebody way down the road. All right, we'll leave it at that.
- 12:27That was fun. I had one of those moments and I'm going to, I'm going to acknowledge
- 12:31it. I'm not going to just hide from it. I had a crazy moment right there.
- 12:36I was in a trance and I just kept talking. All right, we'll leave it at that.
- 12:40Hope you have a wonderful Thursday as we get ready for the weekend and I'll see you in the next one.