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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Sounds of College Football · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. So sure enough, Phidias touting our
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  Speaker 1: guy BP from the HB as a potential Panther pep
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  Speaker 1: talk guy to try to mix it up from Weatherman Mark,
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  Speaker 1: try to get some good vibes going, maybe get a
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  Speaker 1: win going. He is texting in and said, I'm here
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  Speaker 1: and ready boys. And I love how, I love how
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  Speaker 1: he wants this spot bone. He went out there. I
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  Speaker 1: thought Finney just happened to hear this guy on a
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  Speaker 1: call or something. Finney scouting. This dude sent in, clipped
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  Speaker 1: his own call from the post game show and sent
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  Speaker 1: it to us. Almost like a resume tape, almost like
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  Speaker 1: a broadcaster trying to get a job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He is pretty passionate. It's post-Bears game call, man.
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  Speaker 2: Does he go pep talk or the roundtable.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder?
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if he goes into the roundtable. We're looking
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  Speaker 2: for roundtable guys as well.
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  Speaker 1: But we need a screamer for the pep talk. He's
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  Speaker 1: a definite screamer.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to go scream, too. It's tough. We're the coaches.
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  Speaker 1: We have to figure out how to use our great
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  Speaker 1: Panther fan talent. What roles do you guys fit best?
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  Speaker 1: It's a tough gig, man.
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  Speaker 2: While you were talking, my algorithm here, there's a Twitter
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  Speaker 2: feed called That Guy Rocked NFL Edition, where they put
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  Speaker 2: out a new player every day with rock music of
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  Speaker 2: the past with highlights. And today's is... Mike Tolbert. It's
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  Speaker 2: all Mike Tolbert highlights, all dancing. You talk about one
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  Speaker 2: of the most beloved and most entertaining Panther players of
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  Speaker 2: all time, his dancing. I'm watching him right now. Let's
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  Speaker 2: never forget how fun that guy was, just as an
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  Speaker 2: aside here as I'm watching this. Hell yeah, Toldozer, baby.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's... He could help the run game.
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  Speaker 1: He could help. I'm not sure he has too many
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  Speaker 1: snaps in him at this point, though. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: do the sounds of college football. There's some juicy stuff, man,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's the, you know, embattled coaches of the Carolina Pressers,
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  Speaker 1: and people cannot stop texting us about the Shane Beamer
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  Speaker 1: clip that went viral. What he is, what he, does
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  Speaker 1: he really think his fans want to hear this? So
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  Speaker 1: this is coming up in a few minutes, what Shane
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  Speaker 1: Beamer has said yesterday to fire up Gamecock fans even more.
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  Speaker 1: But let's start with two Former coaches turned media guys that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I did all the eye rolls at these
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  Speaker 1: two gentlemen. I think they are both so full of crap.
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  Speaker 1: These two guys annoy the living crap out of me
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  Speaker 1: with their attitudes and what they say. Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: Nick Saban. Urban Meyer, you're on deck. But let's start
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  Speaker 1: with Nick Saban. There's been a lot of talk, Bone, about, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to limit what the athletes can make. How
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  Speaker 1: about the coaches' salaries? All these schools cry poor, and
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  Speaker 1: then they pay the coaches ridiculous money. They have the
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous buyouts. And Stephen A. asked Nick Saban on ESPN
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  Speaker 1: about that. Is that kind of hypocritical?
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  Speaker 4: What about those who would look at this and say, okay,
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  Speaker 4: it makes sense as it pertains to the players, but
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  Speaker 4: is there a cap on coaches and administrators and how
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  Speaker 4: much money they can earn?
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  Speaker 1: How about that not being addressed in the protect college sports?
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  Speaker 5: Well, but these things are totally different markets. Like that's
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  Speaker 5: like asking me, does a student scholarship equal the professor's pay?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, how much value does a coach create for
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  Speaker 5: a university?
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  Speaker 1: Well, if it's Nick Saban, it's an easy answer. But
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of coaches. That's a very challenging question,
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  Speaker 1: to say the least.
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  Speaker 5: But I think a better way to control that is contracts.
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  Speaker 5: Rather than worry about amount of money people make, I
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  Speaker 5: think the thing that has been difficult is when coaches
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  Speaker 5: get fired and they have these huge buyouts and everybody says, well,
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  Speaker 5: how can the university afford to pay them that? I
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  Speaker 5: think you can figure out, okay, you can't have any
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  Speaker 5: more than a five-year contract or whatever it is. and
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  Speaker 5: maybe the buyout can only be so much. But I
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  Speaker 5: think that's maybe a better way to approach it than
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  Speaker 5: try to make these two things. They're different markets. Players'
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  Speaker 5: market's different than coaches' market.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. You're not kidding on that one, though. Unbelievable. Can
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  Speaker 1: I just read into what he really means there? And
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  Speaker 1: so many coaches I feel like deep down feel this way.
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  Speaker 1: They like the way it was before they had to
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  Speaker 1: pay the players anything. They liked it before. The control
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  Speaker 1: they could have over each individual situation. And the money thing, too.
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  Speaker 1: So they don't want to give up the money on
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  Speaker 1: their end as coaches. But they can't stand it now
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden. And to act like players in
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  Speaker 1: college football are not generating money for the university. Who's
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  Speaker 1: worth more dang money, Bone, to Mississippi State right now?
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  Speaker 1: Camario Taylor or Jeff Levy? It's not even remotely close.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man. That is disingenuous as hell to act
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not saying every athlete, but to act like
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  Speaker 1: some of these athletes are not generating so much for
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  Speaker 1: the day.
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  Speaker 2: And as far as like player contract goes, are players
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  Speaker 2: about going to have to be held to contracts? Or
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  Speaker 2: would the contracts be like college coaching contracts where. They're
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  Speaker 2: simply just bought out and that'll mean a thing, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because college coaching contracts back are the most meaningless things
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  Speaker 2: ever because of the buyouts. Coaches can move freely no
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  Speaker 2: matter what, but are players allowed to move off their
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  Speaker 2: contracts like coaches are Nick Saban or is that not allowed?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, well, they're trying to limit to
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  Speaker 1: one transfer.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know what I mean. So they're trying to not
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  Speaker 1: let them move around. And to your point, the only
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  Speaker 1: thing they're doing is in the Protect College Sports Act, which,
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  Speaker 1: as I understand it, Bone, the House may chop this
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  Speaker 1: thing up and alter this thing before they vote for it.
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  Speaker 1: But as of right now, they have the thing in there,
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  Speaker 1: the Lane Kiffin rule, where they will not let coaches,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it would not let coaches leave midseason. So
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  Speaker 1: they at least have that going on. But other than that,
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  Speaker 1: to your point, they're not really restricting anything. Because God
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  Speaker 1: forbid the coaches and administrators, Bone, have to give up
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  Speaker 1: some of their salaries while, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: while the business model struggles.
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  Speaker 2: The other Lane Kiffin rule is thou shall not leave
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  Speaker 2: head coach on the tarmac.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right. So let's go to urban Meyer.
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  Speaker 1: And I have to be honest with you. Nick Saban was, was,
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  Speaker 1: is full of it. He's a shield for the coaches, whatever. Um, uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's hypocritical stuff there that he's not even acknowledging, but
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  Speaker 1: it pales in comparison to what urban Meyer said, uh,
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  Speaker 1: on the cover three podcast. I can't, how does he
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  Speaker 1: say this with a straight face based on his history?
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  Speaker 1: Listen to what he says about Colin Simmons, the edge
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  Speaker 1: rusher from Texas and and his, you know, as the
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  Speaker 1: referee said, simulating the restroom celebration. Listen to what Urban
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  Speaker 1: Old Herb says. Colin Simmons marking his spot at Neyland Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Grow the F up. If I'm the head coach and
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  Speaker 1: I see that kid do that, he's out for it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm suspending him. Right, and that's on you too, Sark. Like,
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  Speaker 1: get your business in order. Reflection of your coach. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about it.
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  Speaker 7: Your guys are kind of running around right now, and
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  Speaker 7: you are not displaying yourself as a number one ranked
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  Speaker 7: team in the nation.
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  Speaker 2: Urban Meyer, I've always been a guy that has sort of, Mac,
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  Speaker 2: I've been a guy that, because I rooted for him
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  Speaker 2: when I was a Gator fan, you know, 20 plus
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  Speaker 2: years ago. But to sit there and say that you
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  Speaker 2: would suspend him when you ran a program that was
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  Speaker 2: so unruly, there are documentaries made about it. You had
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  Speaker 2: at least 31 players arrested. How many were suspended? I'd
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  Speaker 2: have to go look and see, but I can guarantee
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  Speaker 2: you that action there from the 2004 to 2011 Gators
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  Speaker 2: would not be suspended, Urban Meyer. It's the first thing
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  Speaker 2: I thought of. I don't want to go through each incident,
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  Speaker 2: but you got a lot of bad dudes in that
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  Speaker 2: football team you coach.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Ohio State, I'm sure stuff happened there. too but
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  Speaker 1: look in the other way how about the way they'd
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  Speaker 1: had the game fill cops in their back pocket when
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  Speaker 1: herb was at florida yeah so they were able to
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  Speaker 1: communicate with the cops so that things did not become
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  Speaker 1: bigger deals like yeah that that is one of the
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  Speaker 1: richest comments that any human being can make 40 seriously
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  Speaker 1: 41 of.
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  Speaker 2: 121 players on the 2008 championship team were arrested How
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  Speaker 2: many of them do you think ultimately ended up missing
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  Speaker 2: games for those arrests? Carlos Dunlap missed one for a
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  Speaker 2: DWI before the championship game. Of course, there was the
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  Speaker 2: cam stuff with the laptop. But many were not disciplined.
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  Speaker 1: I can guarantee you, Urban, that.
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  Speaker 2: You looked the other way on a lot more stuff
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  Speaker 2: worse than a guy stimulating urination in a football game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fake moon. Didn't that dude have a murder on
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  Speaker 1: the team? In fairness.
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  Speaker 2: There might have been a gator that actually peed on
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  Speaker 2: somebody during a game at one point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Forget the simulation. In fairness, he didn't know he
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  Speaker 1: had a murderer on his team at the time. Belichick, though.
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  Speaker 1: Belichick's the one that had the murderer at the time.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, that's just... Both of those guys, man. Saban,
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  Speaker 1: it's just... And Herb, it's just, it's so, I need
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  Speaker 1: boots in here, Bone. It's just, it's very deep to
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  Speaker 1: wade through the BS now that we gave you on
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  Speaker 1: the radio. All right, let's get the current coaches now.
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  Speaker 1: Are they BSing? Gamecock fans would say yes about Shane Beamer. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I know it's a hard spot that these coaches are in, Bone.
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  Speaker 1: They got to do pressers. Imagine at your workplace, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: it's going really bad, you're having a rough quarter or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and you got to do pressers every couple of days,
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. I fully admit, Bone, that can't be fun.
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  Speaker 1: But it's part of the job, and they get compensated
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  Speaker 1: heavily for it. But man, Shane Beamer picks the wrong
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  Speaker 1: words sometimes. Listen to what Shane Beamer was bragging about
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  Speaker 1: yesterday at his presser.
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  Speaker 2: You ask the question, people get tired of hearing about
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  Speaker 2: the wrong thing?
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  Speaker 1: Well, guess what?
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  Speaker 2: We had a hell of a practice today. We had
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a practice.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? So you get tired of hearing that?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 7: You're going to keep hearing it, but we got some
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  Speaker 7: freaking awesome young men that went out there today practice
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  Speaker 7: their butts off with a ton of energy, and they
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  Speaker 7: hurt too.
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  Speaker 1: How did that hit you as a Gamecock fan, Bo?
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  Speaker 1: Are you excited about that? Yeah, I can't wait. Great.
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  Speaker 2: That's wonderful. There was so much talking about it. There
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  Speaker 2: were so many things that came out yesterday from Shane Beamer.
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  Speaker 2: I lost track of where I ranked them in terms
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  Speaker 2: of what bothered me more. I had a mental list
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  Speaker 2: going of what was annoying me yesterday, and it got
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  Speaker 2: to the point my brain said, shut down. I'm so
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  Speaker 2: annoyed right now. And I hate feeling that way because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not normally, Mac, you know, I'm not really a–
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  Speaker 2: Usually I'm kind of supportive of the coaches to a
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  Speaker 2: certain point until it gets to a point where you
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  Speaker 2: can't support anymore. Well, I'm at that point now where
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  Speaker 2: there's just a lot of talking, man. There is just
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  Speaker 2: a lot of talking and there's not a lot of
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  Speaker 2: consistent performance. Losing to Bama, I'm not mad about that
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  Speaker 2: because it's going to happen a lot to most teams.
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  Speaker 2: It's the way that you didn't show up and also
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  Speaker 2: the way your team performed. completely melted down in so
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  Speaker 2: many areas both football off the field that was look
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  Speaker 2: if they would have lost a close game i'm annoyed
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  Speaker 2: but i'm not mad but when you embarrass yourselves like
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  Speaker 2: that that's when i have a problem yeah it's and
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  Speaker 2: he knew it when he said it past those types
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  Speaker 2: of things too by the.
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  Speaker 1: Way The way he started that comment, he kind of
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  Speaker 1: prefaced it. He knew it wouldn't go over well, but
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  Speaker 1: he just wanted you to know so badly that they
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  Speaker 1: had an amazing practice. It's kind of like last year,
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  Speaker 1: to your point, Bone, when he just kept saying over
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  Speaker 1: and over again, this isn't happening again. Next season, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be a playoff contender again. This won't happen.
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  Speaker 1: Wait till you see us in 2026. It's like, to
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  Speaker 1: your point, people don't want to hear the yapping. People
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  Speaker 1: want action. You got to be about that action, boss.
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  Speaker 2: And I said it in December, the presser that you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about, end of season, when he said, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be different.
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  Speaker 1: We have all this. We have all that.
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  Speaker 2: I said, first of all, I would be careful making
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  Speaker 2: promises as a college coach in December when you have
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  Speaker 2: absolutely no idea. He was saying that stuff before we
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  Speaker 2: knew about it. sellers and he didn't even know they
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  Speaker 2: were coming back yeah they did and ultimately it hasn't
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  Speaker 2: made a difference right now but he was saying that
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  Speaker 2: stuff before he knew he was coming back like why
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  Speaker 2: are you talking before like if you went through spring
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  Speaker 2: practice and you realize oh we have something here and
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  Speaker 2: he said all right we're gonna be better all right
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  Speaker 2: well you've seen your team He was making promises straight
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  Speaker 2: out his backside to try to save himself because he
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  Speaker 2: had no other way to go. And he made those promises.
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  Speaker 2: I said, you better be careful. You're at South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: There's no guarantee with your team and the schedule and
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  Speaker 2: all that that you're going to be better. And sure enough,
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  Speaker 2: it's backfired on him right now. He's getting mocked so bad,
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  Speaker 2: people are sending banners.
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  Speaker 1: There's banners floating around on social media for best practice
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  Speaker 1: team in the country. Practice national champion, this says. You
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  Speaker 1: said there was like a list of rankings. Yeah, on three,
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  Speaker 1: a fake on three. By the way, look who's here, Mac.
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  Speaker 1: Why is she dancing and celebrating? Hey, you're 0-3 in
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  Speaker 1: your quarterbacks. Get out of my window. Tampa Tammy is shameless.
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  Speaker 2: You're 0-3 in the NFL and you're $ 17, 100 to Miami.
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  Speaker 1: At home this week.
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  Speaker 2: You might want to keep stepping that way. The loser's
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  Speaker 2: lounge is that way.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Tampa Tammy was going to crawl on the
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  Speaker 1: ground so we couldn't see her through the window. All
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, you lost to the Browns too. How
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  Speaker 1: can you trash talk us? And you lost every game
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  Speaker 1: and haven't won one and your quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 7: Out first place that she's talking trash to us first
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  Speaker 7: place right now first place by virtue of the tiebreaker
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  Speaker 7: number one yeah you're in last.
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  Speaker 4: By yourself all right anyway back not that she she
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  Speaker 4: doesn't punching the window right now not that she triggers
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  Speaker 4: us or anything she's sending us a message via her
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  Speaker 4: phone what is the message Is your eyesight good enough
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  Speaker 4: for that bone?
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  Speaker 1: I can't. Todd Bull should be fired, too. Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Misery loves company. All right. Now you're one of us.
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  Speaker 1: She's miserable, too. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I wanted to hear. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So what were we saying? Let's get to the next
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  Speaker 1: sound clip. Enough of Shane Beamer. This dude said, can
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  Speaker 1: y'all let poor Shane Beamer off the mat? This is daily. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: All right, anyway, let's continue because let's get to Dave Doran.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Doran was asked about facing all the criticism that
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  Speaker 1: he faces, and this was his response.
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  Speaker 6: Criticism is part of the world right now. I think
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  Speaker 6: it's just the lynch mob mentality of everything. How can
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: we tear somebody down more and more and more? It's
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  Speaker 6: just the society that we're a part of. And it's
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  Speaker 6: not a happy one, you know. And so for me
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  Speaker 6: to have good mental health and to enjoy what I do,
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  Speaker 6: I just got to block a lot of that out.
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  Speaker 6: And can it get old at times? Sure it can.
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  Speaker 6: But you just got to remember why you're here. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you're here to mentor, coach, lead, help a university. You're
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  Speaker 6: here to win as many games as you possibly can.
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  Speaker 6: And when you don't, learn from them and get better.
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  Speaker 6: And that's what I try to focus on.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: I need Dave to just chill out a little bit there.
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  Speaker 2: He's a little too fiery for my needs right now.
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  Speaker 1: Dave, listen, I feel like he— I' m not sure the criticism
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  Speaker 1: bothers him much. He doesn't seem to be the person— although
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, you do get feisty Dave moments
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  Speaker 1: like you did the other day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, he does. He does have moments where it
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  Speaker 1: bothers him. His choice of the phrase, lynch mob— Got
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  Speaker 1: the attention of some in the media. Goldie brought it
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  Speaker 1: up yesterday. Dan Walken was all over him for it.
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  Speaker 1: I get what he's talking about. He probably could have said, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, online mob or something like that. But I
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  Speaker 1: get what he was trying to say there. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, man. I just don't sense, Bone, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, and we'll see how the season plays out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't sense the administration at NC State is near
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  Speaker 1: as bothered by Dave Doran as fans are. It wasn't
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the case last year, and I don't think it's the
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: case now. I could be wrong.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: What are you thinking about this game on Saturday, 3.30, Louisville?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: At NC State, it's a four-point spread right now. 94%
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: of the money line is on the cards. What are
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: you thinking here? Do you think this is a spot
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: where State can do one of their things? They beat No.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: 8 Georgia Tech last year at home. Are you thinking
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: that they can do something here? Part of me is.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Wondering here a little bit. Keenles is banged up. The
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: reason I would lean no is Louisville lost last week.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Like, if Louisville won last week and was rolling, I
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: could see them have a trip up. Do we think
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: they're going to trip up twice in a row? Like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: that's a pretty damn good team, and I don't know— And.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: That would be three losses for them already, and that
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: does seem like kind of a lot for them.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: And Doran made a great point about all the Keenhole's
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: injury talk coming out of Louisville. Oh, he was hurt
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: on the last play. What did he do when he
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: was down on the last play? Ryan did a ref
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: about getting— he wanted a call. Dave Doran said— He didn't
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: say BS, but he basically said, I don't think he'd
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: be worried about a call if he was severely injured
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Plus, that dude, he has some material in him,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, without 58 turnovers per game.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Keen holes, he's the type of guy, Bone, that would play,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, through anything. You could hit
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: him with a Mack truck five minutes before the game,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he'd come out and play.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Now, State beat Virginia last year at home in a...
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: back and forth high scoring game. I think it might
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: be one of those. I think state competes. I think
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: it's kind of, it's, I think they can play within
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: that spread. I think it comes down to the end.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I lean Louisville, but I think state shows up in
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: this game. And I think it does come down to
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the end. It's an interesting spot. I fear state is
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: going to lose the next two at home. I hope
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but they got Louisville and then they got wake.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: in the next two, and I don't think they're better
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: than either team. But to your point, Bone, they weren't
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: better in Virginia last year, and they weren't better in
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: But on one day, you know what I mean? And
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: State has, to your point, gotten these wins. I think
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: they'll get one of them, I think. I don't think
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: they'll lose both of them. They'll get one. Doug is
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: usually arguing on behalf of State. Doug now just says,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to get curb stomped by Louisville.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think that's going to happen.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a very entertaining game,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. When we come back, a
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: man Mac who gets rave reviews whenever he appears on
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the Mac and Bone show. Panthers great Brentson Buckner will
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: break down the defense without J.C. Horn. And also interested
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: in Buck's thoughts on the amount of injuries in the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: league and why it's happening.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Keep the text coming, man. People
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: are fiery. People are feisty. I love it, baby. That's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: what football is all about, bringing out the passion. Shout
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: out to Harrisburg Jamie. During all our disgruntled college press
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: conference audio we've played, Bone, in the first hour and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the second hour, wanted to point out as a Duke fan,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: not everybody's angry at their coach. He said long live
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Manny Diaz.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in a weird world right now. I'm wanting
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: one gone, and I'm also trying to keep the other
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: guy out of school right now. I'm also wondering, is
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: one school going to take my guy from the other
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: school right now? I got a lot. I got a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: lot of fires back. I got a lot of fires
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: in the irons right now going on.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest. Irons in the fire. We got you. We
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: got you. Wake Forest, happy with their coach, should be
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: elated with Jamie Dickert. I think App State fans are
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: looking at Dow Log and saying, okay. Okay, you're doing
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit of coaching, dude. And Mike Houston has earned,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: it hasn't been a great start for ECU, but I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: feel like Mike Houston has earned a little bit of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: leeway here from Pirate fans, and they've got plenty of
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: football to play. But those other five in the Carolinas boat, woo, doggy. Oh, man.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And a name that's going to come up a lot,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: that's already coming up within Gamecock fans, and I'm sure
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of fan bases will bring them up, is
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Buster Faulkner, the OC with the Gators who came from
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. Did work with Haynes King. Now he's doing
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: work down there. That's going to be a name. We'll
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: see how high level of a job he ends up getting.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: But Buster Faulkner is a guy on the assistant level
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: that's going to be all the rage.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, the job he's doing, that Florida offense, after what
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: he did with Haynes King last year in a Georgia
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Tech offense in the past. All right, let's bring in
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a man.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Wait till a Panther fan says, why don't we bring
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: him in here, Buster Faulkner?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Let him and Haynes King run the show? All right,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: let's bring in someone that knows himself some ball. We
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: do have to change this, though. I just realized, Bone,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I've reached out to Buck after both losses, but not
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: after the win. Buck has to come in and do
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: cleanup duty. Brentson Buckner, a legend in these parts in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the Carolinas, a stud D lineman for Clemson, the same
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: here with the Panthers. You can check out his podcast,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Buck naked sports and here, but all bucks takes, but
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: he's nice enough to join us here. Talk a little
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Panther football, maybe a little college football too. What's up, Buck?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: How you doing, man?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: How are you doing?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: What's going on, my guy?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: What's up, Buck? What's happening? Appreciate you being here. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: one day we will win a game and get you
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: on when it's a happier conversation. Buck, this team right now,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the offensive line, now Damian Lewis is hurt and sounds
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: like he won't play at least this week. And I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: feel like he's our most reliable lineman. But the tackles
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: have been having rough times. Of course, we're missing our
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: two starters. Like what, what can the Panthers do to
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: kind of make the job easier of these tackles? Cause
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: we got Aiden Hutchinson coming in here. Like, or do
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you just think this until the, the tackles get healthy,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: we're in trouble. What do you think?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I think now you have to sort of scheme
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: to help your tackles. No chip blocks, probably keeping guys
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: in on protections, getting the ball out of the quarterback's
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: hands fast, moving the ball, go to more timing routes.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: You're probably going to be limited with your shots you
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: take downfield because you don't have the pocket timing. because
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: the offensive line struggles. There's different ways you can go
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: by it, but the number one way that you help
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: straighten the offensive line is you generate a run game.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: You know, you got to generate a run game and
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: you got to lean on that run game. You got
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: to get those defensive linemen sitting back on their heels
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: thinking that they got to take on run blocks. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: then first down becomes more of a passing down because
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of times a defensive mindset, first and 10,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: you think you run more run than pass. and then
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you want to take your dropbacks, take them on first down,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: you know, and catch the defense by surprise. There's different
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: ways you can scheme to help your offensive line get better.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Got to do that. By the way, I hate to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: interrupt this interview, but you can laugh at me. You
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: enjoy that over the years. Finnegan to mop out. I
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: messed up. For some reason, I said Mike Houston and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: not Blake Harrell as ECU's coach. Mike Houston is long gone.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Blake Harrell is the one who had a good year
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and a half coming into this season and has himself
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: some grace period. My bad, everybody. The weight coach is
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Jake Dicker. Apparently, Max said Jamie Dicker. Oh, did I?
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: Oh, did I screw up both? New name for you, Matt.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: We're going to call you Mop McClain because all you
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: do is mess up.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Hey, Buck, are you free out of the bullpen at
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: some point here?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: We might need to sit back down.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: For a game or two.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not good with names, y'all. I'm getting too old
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: for this name thing. Y'all just got to figure out
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: who I'm talking about.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to Buck's breakdown. Buck, we get the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: news of, on the defensive side, J.C.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Horn.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Being out for a long time. How, how much does
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: this hurt? And is there a way to navigate life
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: defensively without JC and still play relatively well?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it hurts because I think J.C. was
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: an ascending defensive back in his league. I like his size,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: his athleticism. He could match up versus number one wide receivers,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: physical in the run game, and it sort of puts
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you in the hole. Now you've got to go with
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: the young guys, and once again, you know, As a
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, you want to run your stuff. You want
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: to run your stuff, but you can't. Or you're going
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to be limited to some of the stuff you run
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: because the guy that's behind J.C. just is not as
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: good as he is. But you go out there and
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: you try to play your style of defense. We used
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: to always say this. The most valuable players in the
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: room are not the starters. It's the guys that sit
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: behind the starters because they're At a blink of an eye,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: they got to come in and become the guy. And
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: what you try to employ to your backups is we
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: don't want to drop off. You know, we don't want
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: to drop off. We don't want to have to just
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: start to change and alter everything because one guy's missing
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: here or there. No, your job is to come in
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and be ready. And a lot of times this is
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: where this is where stars are born, where they accept
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: their self. their responsibility, they're ready to perform, and they
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: go out there and do their job. So this is
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: a challenge for the backup guys. Now you got your
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: chance because everybody sits in that locker room and wants
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to be a starter. You talk, well, if I get
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: my chance, if I get my chance, I can do it. Well,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: now it's presented itself. Are you ready to take hold
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: of that role and become a starter and keep the
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: ship upright until the starter gets back?
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're hoping for, man, and we will see.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Jack, good chance he doesn't go too,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and maybe Corey Thornton gets called back. I do think
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Lee and Caleb Evans were both pretty good last week.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: But this passing attack they go against this week is
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a bigger challenge. I wanted to ask you about a
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: schematic question, Buck. I have noticed, looking at the numbers
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: on Sumer Sports, I have noticed that the Panthers have
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: blitzed more this season in a small three-game sample. They're
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: up to 7th in blitz percentage from middle of the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: pack last year. And they're playing more man. Like last year,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: they hardly played any man. This year, I think they're
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like 17th in man percentage. So it's kind of a split.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Do you think you have to change those things? Do
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you think you have to go back to zone coverage
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and less blitzing without JC Horn and maybe without Mike Jack, too?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I don't because I think the reason you're seeing it
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: more because I think that's the way they're built. So
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: even the backups were brought in here because they're probably
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: pretty good at playing man, so it fits your scheme.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: And I think the man part is also what you
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: got at linebacker this year. I know that last year
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: you did not want to leave those guys in man
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: because it was just a mismatch for the offense. But
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: when you get Devin Lloyd in here and you get–
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say if I'm saying it right. Okurike?
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Is that right how you say his name?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be asking back right now about names.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Let's just go ahead and say you got it, Buck. Yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that's the way I would say it, Buck.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I don't want to mess this guy's name up.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Okurike, yeah. Okurike.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: You know, those guys are good in coverage. You know
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: what I mean? They're better than what you have. And
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: so you can be more free on defense to blitz
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: a little bit more. to play a little bit more man.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: So I think that's the style that they're morphing into,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: and the playbook is open for the defensive coordinator because
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: the talent has allowed him to open it up. So
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: you don't want to stray away from too much of
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: what you do, or you'll be back in the same boat.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So those guys, those backups,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: they're probably not the starters because that's when they're backups,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: but you know this system, and you're here because you
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: fit this system, and so you just want to keep
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: on running your system and running your system.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Buck, Smitty was on with Kyle Bailey the other day
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: in his weekly spot, and they were talking about not
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: just the Panther injuries, but the league-wide injuries right now.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: It's running rampant, all teams. I mean, look at the Niners,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: for crying out loud. He had a theory that, you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the surfaces that the players are growing up with now
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: are so much different than they used to be and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: not just the natural grass. They're playing on turf as kids.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: They're playing on turf as kids. Do you buy into that?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And what do you think is leading to just the–
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the rash of more injuries than ever before?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I think the surface, of course, because, you know, grass
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: is more forgiving. Grass is more healing towards your body.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: When you're playing on this turf, this synthetic turf, it
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: adds more force into your joints. And if you do
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: it time after time, because, you know, figure when I
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: was coming up in high school, I never touched the turf.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: When I got to college, I touched it twice at
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Georgia Tech and at Virginia at the time. Both of
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: them had turf fields. But then when I got to
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: the NFL, everybody in the L.C. Central back at the
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: time had turf except for the Cleveland Browns. And your
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: body just felt– my body felt different being on that turf.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Another factor is I just think these guys– these guys
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: grew up playing football year-round now. You know, you got
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: fall ball. You got winter ball. You got spring ball.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Some guys play for two and three teams during the
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: season because they're playing travel ball. And then once you
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: go off to college, you're practicing. But then in the offseason,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: they're training. They're job specific. They're not giving their body
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: time to heal or sort of morph. to what they're
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: trying to do. So I think it's wear and tear
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: on the body from an early age, whereas when I
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: was in middle school, you played football. Football, you went
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: to basketball. Basketball, you went to track or baseball. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: it was always through high school. And then your body
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: got a chance to do different things. But when you're
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: playing the same sport year in and year out, you know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: you start to wear those joints out because you're doing
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the same movements too much.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. It definitely makes sense. All right, Buck. Well, hey,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you are the man. We appreciate you answering the questions
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that you know. Buck coached in the league, too, in
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: addition to all those years playing. We appreciate you. Buck,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: next time you come on, maybe we'll make it after
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a win, and maybe I will clean my game up.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: All right? We'll not distract from your segment with a
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: bunch of mistakes. I'll be better, Buck.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Did Mac lose his spot on the Buck Naked Truth podcast?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: No.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll probably sit you on the bench
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit. We'll have to send you down to
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: the D-League for a podcast. Okay, yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I'll prove myself down there at the lower levels, Buck.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: All right, Buck, you the man, baby.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: All right, one love.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: All right, one time, one time. All right, one love, Buck.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: All right, there we go. That's Buck joining us on,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Brenton Buckner joining us on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: The Buck Naked Tooth Podcast, it's him and Noah McLary.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: They do some cool stuff, man. I see it all
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the time on YouTube. They had the former wife of
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the late Bobby Phils, Kendall Phils, on recently.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: She was really entertaining and talking about... you know, as
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a millionaire woman navigating the dating world in 2026. There's
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of cool, interesting stuff they're doing there with
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Larry and Bob.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Check it out on YouTube. That's pretty sweet. That's pretty sweet.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go from one Charlotte legend, Brenton Buckner,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to a just developing, growing legend, Fitty, Aloysius, Marlo in
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the house. Fitty, what's going on over there, baby? fitting.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Mac.
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  Speaker 1: The baseball results.
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  Speaker 7: Yesterday, all four wild card series got underway. The Braves
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: beat the Phillies 5-3. The White Sox, the lone road winners. Yesterday,
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: they beat Houston 6-3. The Yankees, they blanked the Red
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: Sox 9-0. And the Padres, they blinked. The Cubs ate
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  Speaker 7: to nothing.
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  Speaker 1: How about my bravos, baby? What a start. Austin Riley
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: going yard down a run into eight. I got Braves
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: fever bone. I ain't going to lie to you, man.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Shaking my notes for Braves Mac. I ain't going to
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: lie to you. That was fun.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Same schedule today, by the way. So same game times
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: today as yesterday. race phillies uh two o'clock we come
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: back it's random crap a top 100 tv show list
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  Speaker 2: has people talking we have a new celeb couple potentially
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: that mac has thoughts on in tony stewart finally talks
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  Speaker 2: about his legendary 2004 poop race all that and more
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  Speaker 2: on sports radio 92.7 wfnz.
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  Speaker 8: Random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone talk random crap.
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  Speaker 8: Random crap. Random crap. Mac and Bone talk random crap. Random,
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: random crap. Random crap. Random crap.
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  Speaker 1: What the deuce?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, crap.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, crap.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: We stink like a baby's blowout infested diaper. They talk
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: about crap that is random.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's the Queen City's favorite born in tandem.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Mac and Bone. Random crap. Mac and Bone. All right.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Smoke Ludwig for supplying me with Tony
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Stewart on Dirty Mo Media talking about his dirty fire
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: suit back in 2004. He won a race at the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Glen after a situation in his draws. Smoke Ludwig said
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: this will literally make the segment Random Crap tomorrow. So, Smoke,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: good producing, baby. How about that? Good producing. Finally, someone
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: steps up around here. Before we get to that hilarious tale, though,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: from Tony Stewart, let me start bone in Iowa. This
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: was after the Iowa-Iowa State game, where a sorority leader
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: from Iowa, Justine Rands, apparently, Bone, had some drinks in
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: her system on game day, as many college students will do.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: She smelled of booze. She was slurring her speech and
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: had bloodshot watery eyes. This is what the police said, Bone,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: in their police report. Why was Justine, the sorority leader, arrested, Bone?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: She went for a little frozen yogurt at Yotopia, the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: number one fro-yo spot in Iowa City, and she peed
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: all over the floor of this establishment. That's not the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: topping they offer. She has been arrested in Iowa City.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, we were doing well there, man. I mean, all right,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: she's inebriated, a little yogurt. But then, you know, you
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: can't pee on things. These are the things that you
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: just can't. You can simulate it during football games.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: You can't even do that? No, you're right, you can't.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: You can't even do that. Jeez, where can you pee
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: these days?
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Days.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: You can't fake or real P in college, in college
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: football circles. These are the things they don't show you
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: on all those like reality sorority behind the scenes of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the sorority shows. This is what they don't show you.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: The sorority leader taking a number one on the floor
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  Speaker 1: of a Froyo joint.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: You know how they air commercials, Mac, every game for
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: each college, I'll get one like the university of Iowa.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: There's the global leader in blank, blank, blank. Blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: They don't show you Iowa. You're home for yogurt, chops,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: and urination. Go to Iowa.edu. That's not making the Big
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Ten Network ad.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: It's not, no. That is definitely not doing that. So, Bone,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: what do you think of all this hubbub about Instagram
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: influencer Alex Earle and her big– social media post where
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: it shows Las Vegas and the song Fernando, and everybody
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: now thinks she's dating Fernando Mendoza. Are you buying this, Bo?
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Is there more to it than just that? Was there
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: stuff leading up to that? I need to dig a
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: little further into it. I thought that was all they
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: were basing it on. Fernando, how do I put this?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I love Fernando, and I'm protective of Fernando. He seems
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: back a little too... A little too nerdy for dating
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: women right now, Fernando? He's more into his LinkedIn and
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: his Legos. Is he mature enough for a woman that's
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: going to be a little bit wild?
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. Yeah, she is bad news for him. Fernando,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you go to a local church. Uncle Kirk will bring
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you for dinner. Yeah, you have Uncle Kirk take you
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: to church, and you go find a nice woman there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: All right. Because this woman, all she wants to do
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: bone is get attention any way she can. So if
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: she was trying to get her paws on Fernando Mendoza,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I would not approve either. And I believe it is
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: just some sort of PR play. And yeah, it doesn't
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: seem like there's, I don't even think it's happening. It
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't even seem like there's evidence. And by the way,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the reason why this got such big play on all
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the sports blogs is because she had a fling with
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Tom Brady is essentially one of Fernando's bosses
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: with the Raiders.
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: Awkward.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's what people are talking about. Yeah. Anyway,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Fernando just dying to hear our advice on women, Bone.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Fernando and Fitty want to lean on us for women advice. Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: here's the article. She's just trying to make Tom Brady
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: jealous with his quarterback. Oh, is that the theory? Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, she should go get a dang QB that's
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a little younger, though, shouldn't she, for God's sakes?
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's old news, man. I will say this.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Brady is a commentator this year. You can tell he's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: trying to add personality. He had the old P-missile thing
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he said. Of course, he swore, you know, by mistake.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: But this past week, Justin Herbert throws a pick, and
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: he says, oh, that throw was a big old meatball sub. Like,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: he's trying to have actual personality now. I like it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: He's become much better the last two years. Yeah, I
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: don't think you can deny that. From where he started
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: year one, when he didn't even know when to speak,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to now. Yeah, I'm never going to be a huge
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady fan for various reasons. But, no, he's far
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: back from the worst broadcaster out there. By the way,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: shout out to Mark Schwereth.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Just FYI. Oh, Brady, you way above stink on our
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: broadcast rankings. I don't want you to know that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: No, he's come a long, long way the last few years.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Big time. Let's see. All right, so the New York Times,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Panther talk coming up top of the hour now as
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: we talk about some fun offbeat stuff to make us
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: forget Panther injuries. The New York Times put out this
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: list that has gotten big play on social media, the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: 100 best TV shows of the 21st century. So you
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: were saying, Bone, it's all shows that have started in
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the year 2000 or later.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it could not be a show that started in
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the 90s and ran into the... 21st century they had
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: to start in so for example friends crossed over that
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: would not make this one yeah they had to start
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: sopranos crossed over a lot of people were mad about
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: that survivor i think is the oldest one on that
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: was exactly year 2000 it was it was so breaking
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: bad is number one i love this for this list
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: this is my that is my favorite all-time tv show
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  Speaker 2: that that's number one and deservedly so as i have
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  Speaker 2: watched that in the last uh year.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Followed by The Wire, Mad Men, Succession, and something called
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Fleabag that I have never heard of in my life,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: That's what the ladies used to call Fitty when he
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: was single. Is that the Fitty Doc? Is that what
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that is out there? I don't want people calling him
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Fleabag now.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Stop that. Game of Thrones 6, Veep 7, a show
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you and I both liked, 30 Rock, Curb Your Enthusiasm 9. Hell,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I'd put it higher, but that's just me. And Atlanta,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I never watched that one. The Office is 11. What
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: stuck out about this list to you other than us
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: both approving of Breaking Bad being the number one show?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Breaking Bad, number one. I've watched a number of those shows.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Arrested Development is 12. That is not one. that I've
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: watched in full, although I do celebrate Jason Bateman, so
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I probably should watch that in full. Friday Night Lights
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: is 14. We can't go through all 100. I will
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: say the very first thing I thought of was where
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: the Sons of Anarchy fall in the top 100. And
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I read the comments and I realized a lot of
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: people were thinking the same thing. How in the world
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: did Sons of Anarchy not make the top 100 since
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the year 2000? I don't know if it's an oversight.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I have no idea how Sons of Anarchy did not
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: make it. Also, Mac, Chappelle's show was 58. And Key
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: and Peele was 29. I don't think that's right. I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: put Chappelle's show above Key and Peele. I don't know
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: how they're separated by that much. Chappelle's show was absolutely. Now,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I never really watched much of Key and Peele.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I definitely saw the old three-pump Selly episode, Boney, over
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and over again. But, yeah, I was a big stand
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: for Chappelle's show. I was so sad, Bone, when Dave
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: went a little cuckoo there for a while and the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: show disbanded. But, yeah, Chappelle's show to me should be
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: top 20. You know?
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: But full disclosure, I think I've only watched like 25
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of these 100 shows.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Full disclosure. Yeah, there's someone there I have no idea
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: what they even... Like, we saw Fleabag at number five and...
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I saw about 25 as well. The show that's trending
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the most now for new shows that's already 36 is
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: The Pit on HBO, which I watched. So that just
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: came out. It's only ran a couple seasons. And for
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: that to be number 36, that tells you how good
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: that show is.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: That is an unbelievable show, by the way.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. I'm so glad to see Succession up there
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: at number four. Breaking Bad and Succession to me might
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: be The two greatest TV shows for me. Sopranos is
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: right up there as well.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: They did was Better Call Saul lower than a lot
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: of people do. It was 27. I admittedly, I didn't
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: really get into Better Call Saul as much as Breaking Bad.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I've watched better. I was a huge Breaking Bad fan.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I watched Better Call Saul twice, Fitty. Got stuck in
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the middle of season two both times. It feels so slow. Now,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: everybody says it picks up at the end of season
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: two and the beginning of season three. I just haven't
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: been able to break through to that point.
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: That's a long time to get invested to get the hook, right?
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: Like, there's certain shows that maybe take until episode five
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: or six to get there.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: You're talking almost two full seasons.
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know if I need
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to restart where I was and just kind of power through,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: because apparently there are some people that think it's as
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: good as Breaking Bad once it gets rolling. That's what
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Walker Mail told me. Does he?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Okay. I mean, a lot of us, it appears like
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: in the top 10, but it's lower on here. By
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: the way, this was a poll of various TV executives and...
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: This wasn't just the New York Times. This was a
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: kind of like the Jeremy Fowler polls, execs in football. Also,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: by the way, Mac, there's a show called The Leftovers.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: They're a number.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Where did it go?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I will. Number 25. That is about Darren Gant eating
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: leftovers for 45 straight days after Thanksgiving.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Speaking of not watching things, I know I don't watch
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of movies I should watch. Darren Gant confessing
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: on Ask the Old Guy on Panthers.com he's never seen
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Remember the Titans. How the heck you never say remember
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the Titans? That's blasphemy.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: It's one of the most shocking misses maybe in Dare
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Again history.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: God.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: All right, so here's what we'll do, Bone, because we
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: do the time constraints. On our way back in, you
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: will hear Tony Stewart on Dirty Mo Media recounting the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: day he pooped his draws and still won the dang race.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: It's freaking legendary. You'll hear that coming up next, and
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: then we'll get into the Panther conversation. Can we win
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: this Lions game despite the injuries?