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Simon Roche on the lack of sophistication in the West · UK Column Radio

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We've moved house recently and I'm in my new studio but it's
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not yet complete, so my apologies for lack of
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professionalism. When you and I last chatted, you
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were telling me about your Russian trip.
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What has happened since you got back?
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Well, I've been interviewing a few Russians.
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We this is a new thing. I've never seen myself as an
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interviewer, but I thought the story's never going to get out
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there unless I take care of it. So we've done 2 so far.
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We'll do a third one in a couple of days time and I have a fourth
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one already lined up. So I represent I'm a full time
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salaried employee of Saitlanders organization, which is the
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largest formal prepper group in the world.
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And we're preparing for the same reasons that everybody else is
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some sort of cataclysmic event in the world or in South Africa.
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And so we've got a new Saitlanders interview feature on
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our, our little YouTube channel that's, that's very pleasant.
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It's, it's nice to to hear the accents again.
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It's very, what is the word nostalgic for me, I and I, I
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find myself wishing that I was back in Russia.
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I was there for three months and towards the end I was kaput.
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I was absolutely shattered. It was very hot in the South,
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which was the last part of the tour, and there was a lot of
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walking done. And I haven't been in the best
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health in recent years. It did help me.
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It was great, great for my health.
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It improved, but at the price that I was just kaput.
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So I was happy to come back. But now I find myself after a
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month, wishing that I was in Russia again.
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There's just so much to like about it, Jeremy.
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There's never ending pleasant surprises.
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It's beautiful, it's spacious. The people are very, you know,
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that the expressions that they were, are reserved, but they're
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not doer people. They're not sullen and surly the
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way they're, they're painted in the, in the way.
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So it's pleasant to deal with human beings there.
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And there's a strong sense of, of morality.
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I, I speak as somebody who suffers moral turpitude.
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You know, I'm not a particularly decent person, but I do admire
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it. It is something that I've
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endeavored to cultivate in my sons.
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And I wish we lived in a more moral world.
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And it's a source of endless regret to me that I, you know, I
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went off the went off the rails as a youngster.
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And that conservatism and the orderliness is very appealing.
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It combined with the softness of the people, you know, if you
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take those two things together, very pleasant people, as as
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opposed to the stereotype of the righteous but bitter Roman
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Catholic nun and this similar stereotype in, in Calvinism as
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well, very righteous people. But you know, miserable or maybe
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not miserable, severe, let's say that's a good English word for
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what I'm trying to describe. Whereas Russians are orderly,
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indecent and respectable, but quite, quite soft in in many
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ways and and that they tend to be a shy people too.
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So yeah, All in all, that's that's the story of being back,
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wanting to be there again. Did you know that the Russians
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helped the Boers in the Anglo Boer War?
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I did know that, yes. Yeah, I've read a couple of nice
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stories of the Anglo Boer War. Many don't know that.
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I mean the Anglo Bull War, by the way, I'm sure you know this,
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Simon, but many listening might not.
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And that is the Anglo Bull War is widely considered to be one
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of the most significant wars of the 19th century.
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Yeah, hugely significant. It transferred control of the
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greatest gold fields in the world to a very small coterie of
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Freemasons in London. It decimated the the boy
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population, although that that didn't have world global
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ramifications. And it bankrupted Britain, very,
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very nearly bankrupted Britain. Here's another thing that that
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almost nobody knows. I know of only one other person
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who's familiar with this fact. In the last year of the war, the
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Empire was so depleted of horses because of the first year of the
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war that they couldn't procure horses and mules in Australia,
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New Zealand, Britain and India. It was so severe that they
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bought 1,000,000 round #1 million horses and mules in the
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USA. 1,000,000. Yeah, 1,000,000 exactly at the
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I'm going to mix this up now. The war ended in 19 O2 The there
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was a commemoration held in bloom Fontaine, as they said was
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100 and 120th anniversary of the end of the war.
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It may have been in 2022, there was a, you know, commemorative
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conference. I didn't attend it, but a friend
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of mine from the USA, Mr. Richard A Hamblin, a fantastic
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man, he did attend it. And he brought me the materials
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back and he said, you won't believe this thing I said, come
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on, man. He said, well, here's the
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brochure with a, you know, sort of a 20, you know, 200 word
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synopsis of what Professor Johnson of Michigan University
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is going to talk about at 8:30 on the second day.
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And so I read this precis and it was of he was going to describe
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the endeavor of getting 1,000,000 horses to South Africa
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because the the bulls had so smashed the British that yeah,
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the depleted the entire empire of surplus horses.
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Obviously there were still horses everywhere, but not
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surplus for sale. Amazing story.
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Another highly significant war. I think of the the 19th wouldn't
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be the 19th century the 20th century, I said.
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Did I say 19th century? I meant to say 20th if I did say
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that. Well, it began in the 19th
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century. Have you heard of the Great Emu
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War 1932 around in Australia? Around 20,000 I think.
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Emus essentially defeated the the Australian military.
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They went out with machine guns to try and kill them and the old
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mission was abandoned. Have you heard about?
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That didn't know about that. It had a Wikipedia page and then
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it it seemed to have got taken down.
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But, and I can understand why, it's because it's so
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embarrassing. Yeah, I'm, I'm doing a whole lot
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of Russia research at the moment, just the continuation of
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the tour. And they're all, you know, you
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begin to realize at some point that you don't know half as much
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as you thought you did about anything because the stories are
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so fantastical. You think, well, I should have
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heard of this. How how come I don't know this
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story? I've been paying attention and I
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I was a precocious reader as a child, you know, but there's
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just, there's so many fantastic stories of history featuring
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spectacular events, which makes me think, just to segue for a
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second about the oh, dear me, what's it called?
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The the Darwin Awards website. You know that what?
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Somebody does something stupid. Yeah, and kills himself in the
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process. So it's, that's the the Darwin
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play. You improve mankind's gene pool
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and you improve mankind's evolution by removing yourself
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from the picture. And, and she even has little
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qualifiers like if, if the person usually a man, whether he
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already had children, you know, so that makes it like a lesser
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achievement for mankind. But if he he manages to rub
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himself out it with in in such a spectacularly stupid fashion
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before he has children, then then that's a like a Class A
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Darwin award. It's very good.
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If people don't know about it, they should.
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She she retired it a few years ago after running it for about
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30 years. Because she began right in the
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early days of the Internet. I don't mean the theoretical
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Internet. I mean when Internet was a
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public thing for everybody. She began in the sometime in the
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early 90s, and she retired a few years ago after 30 or so years.
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But it's still up there. She's just not keeping it, you
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know, current great, absolutely fantastic, best, best afternoons
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reading you'll ever have. You know, becoming acquainted
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with the idiocy of human beings. It's very improving.
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You were talking about how brilliant Russia was and yet
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Russia was a pretty bad villain in World War 2 or post World War
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2. I mean the Nuremberg trials was
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a sham. Yeah, look, Russia's had its
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moments. I'm, I was never a Russian
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Russia fanboy previously. Now I'm I'm crazy about Russia
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because everything that I experienced there, apart from,
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you know, pharmacist trying to diddle me with a small amount of
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money and a bus ride that was really grotty man stole my seat
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and refused to give it back to me, meaning that I couldn't film
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the Kerch Bridge. So there were some shitty
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incidents, but you're going to have those all over the show.
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I mean, in Zambia, I was just about killed.
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Similar thing in in Malawi in the USAI was attacked for six
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months solid. I mean, I was slandered like
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I've never been in my life. By comparison, Russia is a
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paradise. But as you say, Russia has had
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its moments. For instance, there wasn't a
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Bible in Russian until 1860, which I think is quite a bad
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thing. And there were reasons for it.
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It was the same reason the Roman Catholic Church didn't, you
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know, freely give Bibles out to everybody for fear of them
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coming up with their own interpretations and schisms and
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all of that kind of stuff. So I don't say it was without
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reason, but it's the kind of thing that you look at now and
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think, dear me, the, the, the, the events that led to Peter the
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I'll miss the SAP guaranteed Peter the Peter the third,
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Catherine the second, Peter the third, Ivan the 4th, Peter the
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third becoming Thar and then obviously becoming Peter the
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Great. The events immediately preceding
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that, the massacre of the families in the palace over 2
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1/2 days, the slaughter, the way that they slaughtered them.
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Terrible. The the slaughter.
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Jewish Marxist Communists. Yeah, and the, the well then,
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not so much. But the, the slaughter of the
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Tsar in, in Yekaterinburg was exactly that.
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It was, it was a, a, a Masonic ritual derived from a, a, a
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Jewish Orthodox. You know, in the Talmudism, we,
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we all know the story that the guys doing the slaughtering of
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his daughters ritualistically were vomiting.
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And at gunpoint, they, you know, they would gut one of the girls
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and then they would vomit and then go back to, at gunpoint, go
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back to, to gutting her. Which by the way, I'm going to
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segue onto something else very briefly.
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We can bounce back. Did you know that?
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The murderer, The murder or the. The.
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Sorry. I beg your pardon.
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The identity of Jack the Ripper has been cleared up.
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It's been ascertained. Yeah, I've.
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I forget the guy's name, but for.
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I experienced this. Somebody consumes a lot of
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history. And what?
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What have you? Like you, I remember as clear as
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a bell watching a video about close to 20 years ago about the
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story of Jack the Ripper. And they narrowed it down to a
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certain number of potential candidates, you know, in this
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documentary film, and the one guy's Jewish.
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So they go through them all and the one guy's Jewish and there's
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a case to be made. And then of course the
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obligatory interview with the Chief Rabbi of of London and he
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waxes on about how you know, it's just an anti-Semitic thing
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and it's always the poor Jew blah blah blah blah.
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Anyway, it turned out to be a Jewish Freemason and they were
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right all along with those people who know about these
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things who periodically would say yes, but these murders of
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Jane and Mary and Susan and Frederica and Anne correspond to
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Masonic rituals. And so it seems as if this with
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DNA they've they've established with absolute certainty that it
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was this this Jewish guy. And it was apparently a series
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of blood rituals, Masonic blood rituals for some or other
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purpose. I couldn't tell you what,
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whether they were trying to raise raise funds or they were
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trying to topple Queen Victoria at the time.
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I don't know that much what they may have been in the background
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that motivated this one particular Masonic Jewish
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Masonic Lodge to send this guy out to slaughter, you know, to
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these blood rituals for this, you know, Moloch type benefits
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slaughter, cook, slaughter cook and eat my child and then
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hopefully Moloch will make me rich.
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So I don't know the background reason, but that that was the
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that is this the story, Jeremy? I'm I'm I'm missed what you
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said? When When was this?
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Jack the Ripper, Jeez, it's never been my field of study.
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I just watched a couple of videos.
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I went through a phase ages ago. I don't know much about him
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either. OK, so the Wikipedia entry
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hasn't been allowed to be updated.
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They they still say he's an unidentified serial killer.
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I read an article that was sent to me that was absolutely
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scholarly sound whatever around Jack the Ripper unidentified
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serial killer who was active in and around the impoverished
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White Chapel district of London, England in 1888.
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And I internal organs removed blah blah blah blah.
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So those would have been used for for satanic rituals at the
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at the local lodge, Jewish refugees, blah blah blah blah
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blah. I can't see here how many the
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canonical 5. OK, so the canonical, so that
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the the core, if you like, 5 Ripper victims are Mary Ann
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Nichols, any Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddos and Mary
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Jane Kelly. And then there are a few more
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that are debated and disputed and and so on.
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Later White Chapel murders. Yeah.
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So. So 5 plus plus some others later
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on. Yeah.
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So. But back to the Russia thing.
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I was making notes for another interview over the past week or
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so, and I've I've come to the conclusion that the past two
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weeks are among the most spectacular of history.
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Not not to overdo it, but this, this Power of Siberia too gas
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pipeline to China and the, the withdrawal, in other words, all
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of the, the gas that China used to, I beg your pardon, not all
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of I think it's 80 billion cubic meters or whatever, not a gas
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for the, of the 100 that previously went to Europe and
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those markets. Something like that has now been
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contracted. Contracts have been concluded
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with the Chinese. So it's a very, very, very big
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thing. People are talking about it all
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over the show. That's a big thing.
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Then the Chinese had that, that parade.
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I don't know if you did you see it, Jeremy?
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No. Parade celebrating Victory Day
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against the Japanese in World War 2.
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Obviously the Manchurian War began in 1931, so it's 80 years
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since they kicked the Japanese out right at the end of World
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War 2. So you had the victory in
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Europe, victory in the Pacific, but the Japanese were still in
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Manchuria and it was only then that the that the that the
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Chinese managed to kick them out.
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So the Chinese celebrated their 80th anniversary.
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Of victory in World War 2, as the Russians did on the 9th of
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May. They celebrated on the 3rd of
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September last week Wednesday I believe.
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Yeah, and allegedly that was the largest military parade in
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history. I don't know much about military
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parades. I can't swear to it, but so some
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commentators have said I thought that.
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Was. Well, I mean.
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Big thing. But that's the thing though, I
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mean, I've often seen, I mean, I think we, we all kind of see
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China as the sleeping dragon. When you go 1 1/2 billion
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people, it it seems to follow that you're going to have a
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pretty large military. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah. And I think.
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And I think the Chinese use highly sophisticated strategies.
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This is one of the things that I've come to realize.
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You were talking about Russia, and I suspect Russia is probably
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similar in the sense that it's a highly sophisticated, I don't
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want to say culture and I actually want to say
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civilization because I think they are a civilization just
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like the Chinese perhaps are. And I think they are way, way,
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way more sophisticated than the West.
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And I'm not trying to say that to downplay the West.
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I think it just is what it is. Yeah, I think, again, not to
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oversimplify these things, but but the the Soviet Union was 15
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republics. It was China.
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Listen to me, you silly idiot. It was China.
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Russia. White Russia.
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So Russia and White Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, then the three
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Baltic republics, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and then the
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three Caucasian republics, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia,
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and then the five stones, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan,
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Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan. And why is my brain letting me
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down today? In fact, I'll tell you why it is
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just now I've got a very funny story for you.
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I'm really not on form today. I'm a bit thick, but those 15
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republics which basically represented Tsarist Russia,
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roughly Speaking of those Russia was let's say that the torso in
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the head, the the all of the vital organs, the beating heart
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of the Soviet system. So not to, you know, mix the the
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two up. I'm, I'm Speaking of the Soviet
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Union as Russia. It's intentional.
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But when you consider the Soviet domination of chase in the mid
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20th century, roughly Spassky, Karpov, Kasparov and a couple of
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others, yes, you had Bobby Fischer.
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But half of the spectacle or the appeal of Bobby Fischer in the
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West was that there was only Bobby Fischer.
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You know, he did the impossible. He beat the Soviets at their own
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game, this thing that they absolutely dominated.
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And I think that in Russia you do get simple people, the people
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from the villages in Russia, given that it's so huge and that
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it doesn't have a large population, it's 150 million
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relative to its size, the you're liable to struggle to develop a
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coherent civilization equally, everybody, everywhere.
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So I had a problem with a woman at a hotel, just an absolute
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horrible human being at a cheap hotel.
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The receptionist and I I complained to her boss.
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And he said to me, what he didn't say, this is unspoken in
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in Moscow, is that there is a tremendous labor shortage.
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The the economy is running so hot that you don't easily fire
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people. So he said to me, yeah, look,
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she's a village girl, you know, you know how they are.
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And then I I spoke to somebody else, my very sophisticated
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friend Dmitry Bolkovsky, and I just mentioned, you know, this
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village girl and he he didn't want to know The rest with some
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unsophisticated Russians from the back of beyond can be
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extremely unsophisticated. But I think you're dead right to
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call it a civilization. It is this European gene pool
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that is stuck between Europe and Asia and is the the great steam
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engine. It's not a very good comparison,
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but of of Orthodox Christianity. Obviously the other Orthodox
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Christians is Serbian Orthodoxy and Greek Orthodoxy and so on.
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And so, but but Russia has always been the dominant force
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in that. And I do think it is a
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civilization as such. But the interesting thing is
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that they're always willing to draw on outside influences.
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Don't have a word for something? No problem, we borrow from
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English. Don't have a word for something?
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No problem, we borrow from English.
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And they, you know that I think that half of the reason of the
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fall of the Soviet Union was because those people had become
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aware of the fact that their genes looked grotty.
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That the the lady's shoes were shabby, you know, the the list
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goes on. And they were just sick of being
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second class citizens. But there's no question that
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there are, as you say, extremely sophisticated people who've, you
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know, had successes that most countries will never have.
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Very few countries will ever be able to brag about the the
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success that that the Russians had in space.
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Maybe the Chinese, you know, so Americans, no.
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I. Definitely think the Chinese can
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can brag. I mean, look at what they've
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done in the last 20-30, forty years.
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It's phenomenal, Simon. Yeah, no, it is phenomenal.
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But I discount the Chinese a bit because it required the waste to
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give them all of their production.
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With the methods of the production, the machines, the
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designs, the everything, you're now going to make Apple
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computers for half the price that we can, right?
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We have to give, we have to tell you all of the design stuff, all
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of the materials stuff, all of the specifications of
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everything. We're going to hand you an
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entire civilization science so that you can produce it for us.
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And the Chinese couldn't invent a domestic ballpoint pen until,
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I forget the year, but it was something like 2012, something
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like that, a ballpoint pen. They just couldn't get it right
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after, you know, call it 70 years of trying to become
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manufacturers. And they eventually got it
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right. And it was such a spectacular
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achievement that they got it right in a December.
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And in early January, Hu Jintao, the previous bigwig of the
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Chinese Communist Party, gave a speech about it.
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I, I, the Chinese are doing very well with electric vehicles and
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all of that stuff, but very little of what they've done were
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they able to do even with the benefit of 1 billion people and
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the same mathematics textbooks as in the West.
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I mean, that kind of knowledge passes easily.
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They weren't able to do what the Japanese did.
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Sure, but I mean, the Chinese history is very, very, very
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complex. No, for sure.
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But I'm just saying that after 1948, after the Long March, the
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revolution, everything right now, we're going to do
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spectacular things and it takes them 1948 until 1918 or
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whatever. I forget the year, but I gave, I
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gave a speech about this once in 1948 to to 2018 to to Japan.
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Also Japan. Yeah, Japan is a different story
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there. They were able to reverse
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engineer everything from the beginning.
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They didn't have to have it given freely to them in order
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for them to copy it. We'll see over the next 100
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years, yeah. Am I correct in saying that
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Japan has never been colonized? Or is it that they've never
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colonized some another kind of one of those two?
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They've attempted to colonize, but they've never been
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colonized. They, the Japanese, Excuse me,
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I've got a blooming hair that's managed to work its way onto the
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top of my lip and I can't shake it loose.
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The, the Japanese remained insular.
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And the, the, the phrase gunboat diplomacy comes from the fact
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that the, the, the Japanese wouldn't open up to the world.
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They're kind of cursing themselves off.
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And the Americans said global new world, new world order or
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we'll blow you to smithereens. So they sent some naval ships
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there and the Japanese very reluctantly drew back those
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those curtains and started trading, trading with the rest
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of the world. I think what I'm, what I'm
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trying to kind of allude to as a, as a, as a very gentle segue,
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Simon, is I don't want to compare the East versus the West
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because I think they are pros and cons, right?
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No matter how you look at it, it's always a pro and a con and
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I think the world has a multi layered past.
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The West has certainly achieved great things and it certainly
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achieved terrible things. And I think this is true for the
31:23
East also. And it certainly, certainly
31:28
appears to me that there is a huge amount of propaganda that
31:34
requires a huge amount of filtering to try and figure out
31:38
what is true. So like for example, your trip
31:40
to Russia, I think 3 months is a very good amount of time to
31:46
spend in another country. But something that that annoys
31:51
me is people don't do that. People don't travel and see for
31:56
themselves and try and experience what's actually going
31:59
on. Jeremy, don't get me started.
32:04
My boss can't bear it. And he's right.
32:07
When I rant and rave, he's dead right.
32:09
I represent a very formal, serious religious organization,
32:14
and screaming like a banshee is not becoming.
32:17
But that, oh, dear me, it infuriates me no end.
32:22
You know that. I I think I told you the story.
32:24
I went to a monastery that had been attacked by the Ukrainians.
32:27
And without bias, I mean, it just, it's very simple to lay
32:31
out the direction where the front lines are.
32:34
And after you've been there a few weeks, you, you get to
32:36
understand how the front lines work and where's East and
32:39
where's Western. And so the Ukrainians attacked
32:42
this monastery and eventually they were, they were beaten off
32:47
by the Russians. And so you, it's kind of a
32:52
notorious, if you like battle. And I went to Azov Stahl and
32:58
every I went to Crimea. I went to, you know, some
33:01
amazing places. I went to Pericop and I was
33:04
stopped at the border there. And the monks at the monastery
33:07
told me a similar thing. Stopped at the border, third
33:10
degree, scanning my eyes, fingerprints, measure my height,
33:15
weight, name the, you name it. Boy.
33:19
It became like an hour long interrogation.
33:21
If you grew up in the town of a Manzam Toti, why were you born
33:26
in Renie Shaw Hospital? And the guy was looking at me
33:30
dead in the eye, mistrustful, I said because there wasn't at
33:34
that time a hospital in a Manzan Toti.
33:36
My father had to drive my mother to Renie Shaw Scotborough to,
33:43
you know, to give birth. He eventually, after a while, I
33:46
got the knock and I passed the acerbic comment to my Hostess,
33:56
Yevgenia, lovely lady. And she said, oh, don't worry
34:02
about it, man. They're only doing it because
34:05
they've never seen a foreigner before.
34:07
I heard them talking to one another in Russian.
34:09
You know, our first foreigner. We better do this properly.
34:14
How? Please explain to me, Jeremy,
34:16
because I'm not bright enough and you're a bright guy.
34:20
How can you? How can, how is it that you can
34:28
have not you Western journalists, the Times, the
34:33
Telegraph, the BBC that have such strong opinions on the
34:39
Donbass and never had anybody there.
34:41
The monks said that they'd had three visitors, 1 Brazilian, one
34:45
Chinese and 1 Indian in whatever period of time.
34:50
Yeah, this this is something that that makes my blood boil,
34:54
that people don't go to places and they have firm opinions on
34:57
them. I've never been to China and
34:59
Japan, and I try not to have firm opinions, although I feel
35:03
that the the one blind spot in the way people look at China is
35:09
how did their miracle occur? What what was the process and
35:14
and knowingly starving. You know, the estimates vary.
35:19
I'm going to go with with 150 million because the most
35:22
persuasive work that I've read about that use that number.
35:28
May I be wrong? Deliberately starving 150
35:34
million people to balance out the the food slash export value
35:42
equation. You know, we will knowingly
35:47
calculated, it was finally calculated if we starve 150
35:50
million to death, it will allow us to export so much rice.
35:55
So much rice will give us X dollars or one or whichever that
36:01
way that we're looking at it. And then we'll be able to, you
36:06
know, it'll take us 10 or 15 years to starve out that 150
36:10
million people. Over those 10 or 15 years, we
36:13
will be able to choose to achieve XY and Z.
36:16
And what they did to the Indians when the Indians were the only
36:21
sub country in the whole world to support them at at that
36:26
critical phase was devious, deceitful, double dealing,
36:31
duplicitous and and as I say, the manufacturing thing, this is
36:38
not a people who could do it by themselves.
36:40
They needed their their great moments only began when they
36:47
were given for free all of the intellectual property to do.
36:52
It, yeah, but I mean. Ever to come up with nothing.
36:55
I think, I think because the 1900s was a very difficult time
36:59
for China. I mean, if you look back the
37:00
last 5000 years, they've had a pretty, pretty impressive
37:04
history. I mean highly sophisticated
37:08
history. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:11
I'm not taking everything away from them.
37:13
That's definitely not, not the case.
37:15
I just. I mean, the Russians also have
37:19
an epic, they have an epic history also.
37:21
And then of course, you had the Bolsheviks that also killed, I
37:25
think, what, 2020 million starving.
37:28
Well, they say 20 million Russians died, but it's World
37:32
War 2. It's, you know, it's a
37:35
different, different sort of equation and numbers of people
37:39
and from this reason and from that reason and from the it's
37:43
actually 20 million people died under communism is what they
37:48
say. But part of that was the those
37:52
who died in in World War 2 because they were representing
37:58
Soviet communism against German National Socialism.
38:02
But yeah, yeah, now you the. Idea of going somewhere, I think
38:07
is a good, it's a it's a really good talking point.
38:11
I mean, South Africa is similar. There come many Americans know
38:16
nothing about South Africa. They think that when you land
38:20
you, you're just going to get shot.
38:23
You know, it's not, it's not, it's not actually a Wild West.
38:27
It just depends on where you go and you have to kind of be
38:29
streetwise. I mean, it's not exactly a safe
38:31
country, but it's not. Let me think of that time.
38:36
So I was an Alex Jones show a few months ago and he was
38:39
talking about how I live amongst wild animals.
38:45
Yeah, he, he told me or he told the audience.
38:49
He, he introduced me to his audience.
38:51
You know, Saitlonders, whatever. People very much like the Amish.
39:15
Wow. I don't, I don't even know what
39:18
to say, he said that. You know he said exactly that.
39:23
I'm quoting verbatim. Very much like the Amish.
39:28
Yeah, yeah. In other words, he'd
39:29
extrapolated from the idea that I represent a conservative
39:33
Christian organization, Saitlanders, which for those of
39:36
your audience who don't know, it's an Afrikaans word.
39:39
Afrikaans is a derivative of Dutch.
39:41
First, the white settlers in South Africa were Dutch.
39:45
They remain about 3 million of them to this day.
39:49
And in the Afrikaans language, Saitlanders over the back of my
39:53
shoulder here means Southlanders or Southerners, but you know it.
39:59
Doesn't translate easy. No, it doesn't translate
40:02
properly exactly. So yeah, he extrapolated from
40:08
there. If you're conservative, if
40:09
you're really conservative, if you, if you're determined to
40:14
stand firm on your soil and stand against farm murders and
40:19
promote your culture and your people all around the world,
40:22
well, naturally that means that you would never drive a vehicle
40:28
with an internal combustion engine.
40:30
Drink smoke. You know, it was embarrassing.
40:35
Goodness gracious, as much as he's a he's a legend, that was.
40:41
You really should stop smoking. Yeah, I should, I should, I
40:48
should or he should. No, you yes, I I should stop
40:52
smoking. I I would love to stop smoking.
40:55
I've I've done it all. I've been for the hypnosis, you
40:59
name it, but it just I've never gotten it right.
41:04
I sort of panic. It's a calming mechanism for me.
41:08
I'm quite highly strung. I'm quite very highly strung and
41:13
it just, you know, when I have those little moments throughout
41:17
the day. Do you think Putin is the most
41:22
powerful man in the world? Unquestionably, I think that
41:26
they are the the the black popes and other such people may be
41:31
more. Powerful.
41:32
I mean, I mean front facing. I mean front facing.
41:36
I'm sure if it did, look what he's getting right is just
41:39
unbelievable what he's gotten right just in the past few days,
41:43
that power of Siberia, too. Europe will never get access to
41:50
the gas that it has lost over the past three years through
41:56
sanctions, through blowing up Nord Stream One and two.
42:00
Europe is going to be buying liquefied natural gas at a
42:05
inflated price from the USA for the foreseeable future.
42:09
China has just negotiated. One commentator said this
42:14
morning that he's not for sure because he doesn't know the
42:18
exact rates involved. But what he gathers from the
42:22
industry is that China has been paying Russia among the lowest
42:27
rates in the world for its gas. And this latest deal comes at a
42:32
substantial, substantial discount to that.
42:37
And the Chinese it's it's enormous.
42:42
If you've got the cheapest power in the world for your industries
42:46
and commerce and what have you, the Sky's the limit.
42:51
And that that's something that was initiated by Vladimir Putin.
42:55
Bricks was obviously that that Jim, whatever his name is from
42:59
Goldman Sachs, that he he wrote about it in the article.
43:02
But apparently Vladimir Putin was the guy who drove the idea
43:07
of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and later South Africa forming
43:11
this block that this Jim, Jim, somebody or other from Goldman
43:15
Sachs had written about. The others were very skeptical
43:20
and apparently worked on it with them for about 7 years before
43:23
they launched it in 2009 and South Africa joined in 2010.
43:30
He is powerful, he is competent, he is capable.
43:33
I've got a great book, fantastic book.
43:35
It's a hit piece on Putin. It's written by a woman.
43:40
A dripping tap of a woman. Her husband must be one of the
43:44
most miserable on the planet. She picks apart every floor and
43:49
blemish that Vladimir Putin and has and has ever had in
43:54
meticulous detail over 500 pages with another 120 pages of
43:59
footnotes to substantiate her case.
44:03
Magnificent piece of work. Just grindingly bitter and
44:08
resentful to a woman reading that book.
44:13
I'm I'm generalizing now, but in general terms to a woman that
44:18
would be grounds to declare him the worst human being.
44:25
As a man. I came away from that book, I
44:31
put down that book thinking to myself, he stole more money than
44:37
Midas. He what happened was at the end
44:40
of the Yeltsin's term, 1999 December the 31st 1999 Yeltsin
44:50
says I'm resigning and the rest of my presidential period is
44:56
going to be handled by my hand picked success of Vladimir
45:01
because in their system he was allowed to do that.
45:04
They didn't have to be elections.
45:06
Vladimir Putin was unelected. He was just plunked in the
45:10
position and they were coming up for a new elections and he was
45:14
either going to be kicked out or do such a terrific job that
45:19
everybody would say, yeah, it's great that we had an unelected
45:23
president and the Boris Yeltsin all by himself plonked him in
45:27
that seat without our say so. So from the beginning of the
45:31
year 2000, he begins his work apparently, and this woman makes
45:36
a great case. He and Co terriered the network
45:39
of guys from the KGB got together and said this country
45:44
is cooked. Given that that the Berlin Wall
45:48
came down in 1989 collapse of the Soviet Union.
45:51
Famously on Christmas Day and Boxing Day of 1991, Mikhail
45:59
Gorbachev, the last Soviet leader resigned on Christmas Day
46:05
1991, Soviet Union is dissolved on Boxing Day.
46:10
So you've got 992, three, 23456789, those eight years,
46:17
absolutely catastrophic bodies on the on the streets of Moscow
46:27
every day. Gangs completely run the place.
46:30
And these KGB guys got together and said Mother Russia is lost
46:36
unless we do something. And so they proceeded to wrench
46:41
back from the Jewish oligarchs, the the seven oligarchs who
46:45
basically it, it threw a series of tricks, stole all of Russia's
46:50
assets, has the one bumped off, the other exiled, the other so
46:57
distressed that he just wastes away.
46:59
The others give their stuff back.
47:00
One guy doesn't give his his theft back, but he deploys
47:06
enormous sums of money to buy into Putin's game to rescue
47:12
Mother Russia with these KGB guys.
47:15
There's only one other oligarch. He's a Christian guy.
47:18
He was the only Christian guy of the the lot, the only ethnic
47:21
Russian. And he and he's still there.
47:26
I've never met him, but I've set 4 chairs down from him and I've
47:28
met his assistant and what have you, Konstantin Molofyev, And
47:35
he, in the most brutal way, restored Russia to civilization
47:46
and greatness. There wasn't a choice in the
47:49
matter. It was either that or the
47:52
disintegration of Russia. And even at that point in time,
47:57
people in the West were talking about, as Kayakalis has recently
48:02
said herself, I couldn't believe it.
48:05
The So the new head of the European Union's foreign
48:10
ministry arm, Kayakalis gave a speech with a show and tell
48:19
picture board map behind her of Russia in which she showed how
48:25
Russia must, you know, the the West and NATO, the EU must
48:30
continue to persist in in this proxy war via being fought via
48:37
Ukraine so that Russia can be defeated, so that it can be
48:42
broken up into the five parts that humankind desires.
48:47
You know, we've decided bugger the Russians and how they feel
48:51
about the matter. We, the great elites of
48:54
humankind, have decided Russia will be broken up into five
48:58
parts so that that would have been achieved if it wasn't for
49:04
Vladimir Putin. Instead, what's been achieved is
49:08
great economy, fantastic safety. I walked through numerous dimly
49:14
lit streets late at night when I couldn't sleep, you know, too
49:16
excited or whatever, the great adventure.
49:21
And I never felt the slightest tingle of anxiety or
49:25
apprehension. And here in South Africa, it's
49:28
just you could never do that even once anyway.
49:31
You know, if you took a stroll through the safest part of Cape
49:34
Town at night, there's a good chance that you would come to
49:38
harm. Or at that time of night, you
49:41
know, very late at night. He's he's produced a little
49:45
paradise, yes. But home is nonetheless where
49:49
the heart is. So you know, yes, I would.
49:52
I would still choose to live in South Africa despite the story
49:56
that you told me, which is great.
50:00
I do choose to live in South Africa in spite of that story.
50:02
If I, if I wanted to go there, given that my, you know, I'm,
50:09
I'm not awful with the English language, there would be endless
50:15
scope for me to make money. And on on top of that, my
50:19
previous profession as a projects manager is a very, you
50:25
know, known in the world, I don't want to say famous or
50:28
renowned, but the big projects for some of the world's biggest
50:34
clients as a projects manager for in live events, it's
50:38
regarded as one of, if not the toughest profession in the
50:42
entire world. Yes, there's strict deadline
50:46
project management as opposed to, you know, the the
50:49
microphone, every single element bar nothing at all must be
50:53
Immaculate. The moment that Michael Jackson
50:56
walks on stage. There's no OK, the bridge can
50:59
run one day over or one month or one year or $1.00 or $10 hundred
51:04
100 million. You hear of these projects as a
51:10
world recognized project manager.
51:12
For me to get a job in Russia, particularly as a project
51:15
manager who speaks English, would be easier than getting out
51:18
of bed most mornings of my life. And given that I love the place
51:22
so much, there's a sore temptation.
51:25
But you are dead right, Jeremy. South Africa is my home.
51:31
It's not just our home, because I say our because I'm on the
51:35
other side of this conversation and I'm also in South Africa.
51:39
But it's not just that you become embedded in the culture
51:46
and the land. I mean, yeah, you do.
51:52
I don't know. I don't know.
51:53
I don't know if you've been to Hong Kong or a a first, another
51:58
first world city. Oh, yeah.
51:59
You, you obviously you have. But if it's a concrete jungle, I
52:03
can only be there for a short while.
52:07
You know I. I drawing.
52:08
Back to you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah.
52:14
Moscow. I have to.
52:15
I don't say that Moscow is the only city in the world that
52:18
doesn't do that. There may be others, but Moscow
52:23
is exceptional in as much as the, the Soviet system was
52:28
miserable and the people were disgruntled a lot of the time.
52:33
So the, the the, the Soviets did a lot of interesting things to
52:37
try to compensate. And one of the things that they
52:40
did was to plant a lot of trees. So it's the leafiest city that
52:45
I've ever been in. And that really makes quite a
52:49
considerable difference. And they built it.
52:51
So it was such premeditation this.
52:55
Yes, but Johannesburg is also like that.
52:57
Yes, Johannesburg is famously like that, but it's not in
53:00
Moscow's league. You know, Johannesburg has that
53:03
reputation, but it doesn't come close.
53:05
Yeah, Yeah. So not to split his with you,
53:12
Jeremy, but Moscow is the only big city I've ever been in
53:18
first, you know, world class city, Hamburg, Frankfurt,
53:23
Berlin, Milan, NY, San Francisco, Los Angeles,
53:32
Washington DC and a few other big American cities where I
53:37
didn't hate every minute of it to be, to be perfectly honest
53:42
with you. The West, and I think more
53:45
specifically the United States, is quite unsophisticated, or it
53:49
has become quite unsophisticated.
53:54
United States always prided itself on being well mannered,
54:00
polite, decent and respectable in the particularly but not only
54:07
Protestant tradition. That was a, a definitive thing
54:11
about the USA, but not being sophisticated for
54:15
sophistication, they, they look to Europe for elegance and
54:20
refinement and that sort of thing.
54:23
And sadly, the USA has now degenerated into a country that
54:31
you can scarcely take seriously. How do you take the the USA
54:35
seriously? How do you take these these
54:39
tariffs and what have you and the $2 trillion shortfall.
54:46
You know, the budget, this year's budget in the USA is
54:50
about 6 1/2 trillion dollars and their revenue, gross revenue,
54:54
the federal revenue is 4 1/2 trillion dollars.
54:58
You know, spending money like water, being bombastic and
55:02
dogmatic and shouting the odds at the whole world.
55:06
I'm not against cutting aid. If you don't want to give people
55:10
free money in the dark corners of the world or whatever you see
55:15
them as well, that's your prerogative and I I agree with.
55:19
You, I agree with you I. Dish out money the way.
55:21
Why, Why, Why should countries just hand out aid?
55:25
No, it's yeah. But the rest of it, I mean that
55:33
that Truth Social tweet that he posted, heavens above men, you
55:38
know, look, we he kind of compliments them on the Shanghai
55:45
Cooperation Organization. That week, last week was the
55:48
week of the SCO and the Victory Day celebration.
55:53
And the he ends it with he said something to the effect of you,
56:01
Xi Jinping and Putin and Modi and Kim Jong Un.
56:07
I'm sure you're having a fine time plotting against the USA.
56:12
You know, it's it's just. And they are plotting against
56:15
the USA. They are doing exactly that
56:18
because the USA has weaponized the dollar.
56:21
So it's inevitable that they would take measures to protect
56:23
themselves. And they're doing it very well.
56:26
Thank you very much. The the, the Chinese economy is
56:30
in terms of purchasing power parity, it is unquestionably.
56:34
Yeah, it's incredible. The only thing that you have to
56:38
take into account though, is that it is achieving those
56:41
results with five times the number of people.
56:47
If I played rugby or cricket or soccer or whatever against you
56:52
and I had five times the number of people.
56:54
It's just, you know, if you have an advantage of 1 chap on a
56:57
soccer team, English Premier League, one guy gets sent off.
57:01
One team has only 10 men, the other has the full 11.
57:05
Usually statistically the the team with 11 players wins.
57:10
Even against better teams. It makes a jolly big difference.
57:13
I mean if you consider if you lay something down, you know, if
57:17
you measure on the floor, but if you stand it up, 1 inch makes a
57:22
difference. If you one inch taller than me,
57:24
I have to look do that to look in your eyes, you know.
57:26
So small fractions make huge differences.
57:29
Yeah, but Simon, India is right next door with an even bigger
57:32
population. Yeah, and, and they haven't,
57:36
they haven't cracked it. They've done even less than
57:40
China has. Yeah, I, I don't know.
57:47
Look, there's no two quick two ways about the fact that they
57:50
are going to dominate the next century.
57:53
Russia's population is just too small and ethnic Russians are
57:56
only 105 million people. It's not a big population.
58:01
Their achievements are hopelessly, well, hopelessly is
58:04
not the right word, but are magnificently disproportionate
58:08
to to the numbers with which they've worked. the US
58:12
population is about 350 million. Russia's population is about
58:20
just sort of 150 million, of which 105 million about are
58:24
Russian. The the Indians, who knows what
58:28
the right number is. I heard 1.7 billion the other
58:31
day. I don't know.
58:34
The Chinese, 1 1/2 billion, roughly.
58:38
So, yeah, I mean, it's not like they haven't had the manpower,
58:42
but but they will dominate the next century.
58:45
There's no two ways about it. The USA is in a hopeless state
58:50
as far as its debt is concerned. And they're talking culturally
58:57
and culturally and culturally only fans, only fans.
59:01
And I, I speak as as a man who suffers moral turpitude.
59:05
I'm not judging, I'm just saying that doesn't bode well for how
59:12
this ends. And, and the, and the waste, the
59:15
decadent waste. I mean, I'm referring now to
59:17
Europe overrun by people of greater order and discipline and
59:27
abstemiousness and continents. Yeah.
59:34
You know, they're talking about putting this NATO peacekeeping
59:39
force in in Ukraine. And of course the Russians are
59:44
wiping it off with a with a rag and but I've now watched 2
59:52
experts crunch the numbers and the and the British force
59:59
couldn't be more than 5000. They would not be able to find
1:00:03
more than 5000 of which which includes logisticians, medics,
1:00:10
potato peelers in the canteen and so on and so forth.
1:00:15
Meaning. Meaning that.
1:00:18
Something like 1000 to 2000 would be actual frontline
1:00:22
infantry combat soldiers, not that they're going there for
1:00:25
combat, they're going there for peacekeeping, but infantry men
1:00:28
on boots, on the ground, in tanks and so on.
1:00:33
So yeah, we've we've watched that decline if.
1:00:37
Simon, that's coming. For.
1:00:42
That that's coming for that final lap.
1:00:44
Give me, Give me a nugget. Give me a nugget of wisdom.
1:00:50
My nugget of wisdom is that all Caucasian people around the
1:00:55
world who are fretting about the present condition of the waste
1:01:04
and the future circumstances of the waste would do well to think
1:01:15
about going to Russia. If you are, if you are very
1:01:18
serious about your children, LGBTQ, the economy, the
1:01:24
everything, the the spectacle of catastrophe, of cataclysm that
1:01:29
is becoming apparent, go to Russia.
1:01:33
It's European and it's very Christian and it's orderly and
1:01:37
decent and respectable and it's doing very well for itself.
1:01:42
Thanks for having Saitland as Jeremy.
1:01:45
Simon Rush, thank you for joining me in the trenches.