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Brewsers #397- AJB · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze, and Bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Ray John, and today we talk
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  Speaker 1: to the man to see, AJB. We talk about getting
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  Speaker 1: into wrestling, how Kyle O'Reilly inspired him, and so much more.
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  Speaker 2: This is such a fun conversation.
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  Speaker 1: AJB is doing absolutely awesome things on the independent scene,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously you don't want to hear from me, you
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  Speaker 1: want to hear from him. So without further ado, here
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  Speaker 1: is the man to see, AJB.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to welcome to the show the man
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  Speaker 2: to see, AJB. How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. I'm feeling real, real good today.
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  Speaker 2: Well, for those listening, kind of paint us a word picture.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you at and what's going on around you?
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  Speaker 3: Like, what I'm doing now as far as working goes?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was frequent like EWA. I've gone down to SWA,
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  Speaker 3: Summit Wrestling Association, which is in Shadybrook. I do fight.
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  Speaker 3: I frequent EWA and fight. I'm a regular there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, nice. Are you amateur fighting?
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  Speaker 3: Amateur?
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  Speaker 2: What's the fight? Is the fight a wrestling company?
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  Speaker 3: It's a wrestling company, yeah. It's a club pro.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha. How do they do shows? I've definitely seen some
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  Speaker 2: companies that try to blur the MMA and then wrestling
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  Speaker 2: worlds as well. I was curious if that's what they
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  Speaker 2: were doing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they do the one, two, three fight kind
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  Speaker 3: of thing. Oh, nice.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: They do that. But it's more, it's just mainly just
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  Speaker 3: like wrestling, professional wrestling. That's mainly what it is. It's
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  Speaker 3: just they just call themselves Fight Club Pro. They're a
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  Speaker 3: pretty good crew though.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's go all the way back in time. What
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  Speaker 2: is your earliest memory of pro wrestling?
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  Speaker 3: Earliest? Oh, that's digging memory banks there. My earliest memory
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  Speaker 3: was probably 2007, 2007. Cause I remember the Chris Jericho
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  Speaker 3: and HBK storyline. I remember that. Yeah. Like 2007, eight. Cause,
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  Speaker 3: and also cause like, I remember Jeff Hardy had won
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  Speaker 3: the WWE championship around that time. And, I remember I
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  Speaker 3: was watching his championship celebration on SmackDown at the end
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  Speaker 3: of that weekend, so that was kind of fun. That's
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  Speaker 3: my earliest, like 2007 was my earliest. It was right
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  Speaker 3: after the Benoit stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was right
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  Speaker 3: after that. I wasn't aware at the time, but now
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  Speaker 3: I look back at it now, it was right after
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  Speaker 3: the Benoit stuff. And they were kind of like, just
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  Speaker 3: when they were going into their PG era, I think. So,
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  Speaker 3: That's my earliest memory. I remember Six Man Tag was
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  Speaker 3: like Ray, Jeff, and some other ones. I can't remember
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  Speaker 3: the rest of his name. I know in the Six
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  Speaker 3: Man Tag, it was Jeff and Ray. I know that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, 2007 Deputy D.B. was kind of like my first,
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  Speaker 3: my earliest memories of it.
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  Speaker 2: What was your first live show?
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  Speaker 3: my first live professional wrestling show ever
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  Speaker 3: was the EWA, not EWA, was the AEW show. And
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  Speaker 3: then my first independent wrestling show live when I went
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  Speaker 3: to EWA.
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  Speaker 2: Very big contrast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very, yeah, yeah. Very big.
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  Speaker 2: What was, I mean, considering you've been watching it for.
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  Speaker 3: That many years, what was it like actually going to
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  Speaker 3: your first live show? Um, so the pyro was hotter
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  Speaker 3: than I thought it would be. Yeah. The pyro, because
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  Speaker 3: I remember it was Chris Jericho's engine and his, you know,
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  Speaker 3: his flames go up and I was always almost in
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  Speaker 3: like the nosebleeds kind of, and I could feel heat
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  Speaker 3: and all that. That's hot. Very hot. Um, and then
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  Speaker 3: something I think is always funny when I think about
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  Speaker 3: that show is I was going to the bathroom and
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  Speaker 3: I walked by Colton Gunn and I was like, oh, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it was a Colton and Austin Gunn and I walked
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  Speaker 3: by them And I didn't realize until after I walked
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  Speaker 3: by them. I was like, that was the guns.
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  Speaker 2: They are huge in person.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in person they're gigantic. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because my buddy is a huge Billy Gunn fan. So
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  Speaker 2: shout out to Eric. So we've gone to multiple wrestling
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  Speaker 2: conventions and we always go see Billy Gunn. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was the all-in one. So it must have been
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  Speaker 2: the first StarCast. And we went to go see Billy
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  Speaker 2: Gunn and he had his sons with him. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, damn, these motherfuckers are big.
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  Speaker 3: They are. I was like, I walked by, I was like, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Because he looks so short, because Austin looks so short
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  Speaker 3: on TV. But like, walking by him, he was like,
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  Speaker 3: had to be, he looks like he's like 5'8 on TV,
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  Speaker 3: but he had to be at least like 6' when
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  Speaker 3: I saw him in person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't help that his dad is gigantic too.
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  Speaker 3: No. I like their entrance though. Even though I haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen them on AEW TV in a while, I like
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  Speaker 3: their entrance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they've been more collision, haven't they? Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they had the thing with Jay White and everybody. For
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  Speaker 2: some reason, I feel like I haven't seen them in
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  Speaker 2: a while either.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen them in a while. I just
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  Speaker 3: remember seeing a clip of their entrance a while back,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, that was tough.
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  Speaker 2: It is pretty dope.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. But yeah, that was my first experience
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  Speaker 3: of a live show. It was... I'm grateful it got
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  Speaker 3: to be like AEW. Not that the Indies are bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's not bad. I just was grateful that it was
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  Speaker 3: like a produced and like live show instead of like
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  Speaker 3: an Indie show where it's like things change all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Especially being, like I said, being a wrestler myself and
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  Speaker 3: being backstage and knowing how matches and stuff change like
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  Speaker 3: last minute. So I was grateful that it was actually
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  Speaker 3: a produced professional show and not like an Indie show.
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  Speaker 2: Indie shows can go quite a long time and then
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  Speaker 2: yeah the produced shows are pretty much like obviously with
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  Speaker 2: TV time they're done when they're done and maybe they'll
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  Speaker 2: do a little bit of dark matches but for the
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  Speaker 2: most part you're not there that much later no because.
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  Speaker 3: Like what I paid for was Dynamite, Dark and Collision
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  Speaker 3: but I didn't no Rampage it was Dynamite, Dark and
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  Speaker 3: Rampage but I only stayed for Dark and Dynamite. I
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  Speaker 3: loved it before Rampage, but it was nice seeing AEW, Dark,
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  Speaker 3: and Dynamite in the same night. It was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: It is so bonkers to me how many matches they're
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  Speaker 2: able to fit in within obviously the pay-per-views, which also
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  Speaker 2: go very long. I love AEW and I love Tony,
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  Speaker 2: what he's doing, but I also think those pay-per-views are
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  Speaker 2: very long and also put them on a Saturday. But
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  Speaker 2: I think that what they, like the amount of matches
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  Speaker 2: they're able to cram in is crazy to me.
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  Speaker 3: It's impressive. I'm not going to lie to you. Even
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  Speaker 3: though it runs long, it's impressive. Yeah. Even though I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they should have like 12 million tags on
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  Speaker 3: a zero hour show.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you're getting everybody in there. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: gets the, you know, the crowd gets a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of everything. You get fun little moments. I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I understand at the same time. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute. Why can't we just do singles or
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  Speaker 2: tags here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because being in multi-man matches, it gets chaotic. Being
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  Speaker 3: in some myself, it gets chaotic. I couldn't imagine being
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  Speaker 3: in a 12-man tag. But to all the people that
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  Speaker 3: are in those matches, more power to you. Y'all will
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  Speaker 3: do a way.
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  Speaker 2: Better job than me. When did you decide this is
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  Speaker 2: what you wanted to do, was get into pro wrestling?
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  Speaker 3: It was actually the year before that. It was the
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  Speaker 3: year before that show that I was talking to my
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  Speaker 3: then partner at the time. And I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: have to like stop saying it and I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: do it and actually just go do it. So it
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  Speaker 3: got to, I think this was like, I was telling
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  Speaker 3: her this in like May or June. And then fast
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  Speaker 3: forward like a year later, I actually like got the
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  Speaker 3: guts to call the promoter of the wrestling company that
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  Speaker 3: I work for now or do shows with now. And
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  Speaker 3: I just called him, and I was like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 3: kind of interested in coming down. And this is August, like, 2022,
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  Speaker 3: so this is a little bit after the AEW show.
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  Speaker 3: And I called him, and I was just like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of want to come down and, like, try
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  Speaker 3: it out and, you know, be a wrestler or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And he was like, cool. He was like, come down.
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  Speaker 3: This and this date. It was like a Thursday. He said,
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  Speaker 3: come down. And I paid the money, come down, signed
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  Speaker 3: a little waiver, and then y'all get to go. I said, cool.
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  Speaker 3: And I did it, and I went to my friend's.
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  Speaker 3: training that, that Thursday, like you said, and I was
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  Speaker 3: like a duck to water. It was in the ring.
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  Speaker 3: And so it didn't feel like, Oh, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm doing. I just kind of like, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna say I knew what I was doing, but it's like,
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  Speaker 3: it just felt like natural. It just felt like I
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  Speaker 3: could just go ahead and just get in there and
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  Speaker 3: do whatever, boom, whatever. get it done it wasn't like
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  Speaker 3: i had to it wasn't like i was feeling like
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  Speaker 3: lost it was like i felt right at home that
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  Speaker 3: makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Right we've been watching for so many years that it
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  Speaker 2: was like you said it was kind of a duct
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  Speaker 2: of water because you've been watching for so long and
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  Speaker 2: i imagine you re-watched so many different things and once
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  Speaker 2: you really kind of start watching it live is one
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  Speaker 2: thing and then going back and watching you like kind
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  Speaker 2: of pinpointing like okay why what are they doing here
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  Speaker 2: especially if you do like maybe look at it multi-man
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  Speaker 2: matches you'd be like okay yeah How did they get
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  Speaker 2: to the outside? And what's the story that they're telling here?
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  Speaker 2: And how did this person decide to come in here?
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  Speaker 2: Or little things like that. And then especially once you
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  Speaker 2: get in the wrestling business, you pick it apart even further. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because now I can't watch matches as a fan. I
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  Speaker 3: can't do it because I watch it just to pick
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  Speaker 3: up stuff to be like, OK, I can do this
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  Speaker 3: from here. I can do this. It's never, because before I,
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  Speaker 3: like we were just talking, before I got into it,
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching it as a fan. I'm like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 3: that shit would be so cool if I actually was
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  Speaker 3: to do it. But now that I'm actually doing it,
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  Speaker 3: I can't look at it from that perspective anymore. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, but also one thing when I got
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  Speaker 3: to training, my first training day, I was really happy
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  Speaker 3: with myself. I actually got in the ring correctly. And
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have to learn how to get in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I did the one foot over and the other... I
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  Speaker 3: was like, okay, cool. I got in correctly. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: look like an idiot getting in. Yeah. Yeah, good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my foot didn't trip up or.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, once you got in and obviously you're learning the
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  Speaker 2: moves and you're starting to actually eventually have your own matches,
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  Speaker 2: who were some people you were kind of looking at
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, I like the way they do this
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to kind of do my little take
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  Speaker 2: on this or... Yeah, how did the moveset kind of
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  Speaker 2: come together?
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  Speaker 3: See, I'm actually happy you asked this question because I've been...
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  Speaker 3: I always like talking about this when people ask me. So,
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  Speaker 3: I was a big Kyle O'Reilly fan, and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: talking about his Undisputed stuff. I'm talking about Ring of Honor.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Same. All that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Red Dragon is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a big Kyle O'Reilly fan. Fun fact
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  Speaker 3: about Red Dragon, Bobby Fish actually reposted me on his
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  Speaker 3: story one day, and I was really happy about it.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome. It was me doing an ankle lock to
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  Speaker 3: somebody I was in a match with, and he reposted it.
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  Speaker 3: I still have it on my phone. I look at
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  Speaker 3: it every now and then. I'm like, damn, one half
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  Speaker 3: of Red Dragon noticed me. That's crazy. But like I
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: was saying, Kylo Ren is a big, big, big reason
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  Speaker 3: why I wrestle the way I do now. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you've seen any of my stuff, if you've
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  Speaker 3: looked at my profile before. He's a very big inspiration
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  Speaker 3: to why I do a lot of stuff I do now.
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  Speaker 3: Because he is actually the person that made me interested
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  Speaker 3: in training Jiu-Jitsu. And I trained Jiu-Jitsu for six months.
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  Speaker 3: I want to do it more. This is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: wrestling and everything else kind of ate up my time
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  Speaker 3: but he's the reason why i started training jiu-jitsu and
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  Speaker 3: he is the reason why i wear what i wear
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  Speaker 3: it to because i wasn't going to wear trunks initially
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  Speaker 3: but i saw him because i was like i didn't
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  Speaker 3: think i could pull it off but i saw him
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  Speaker 3: and i was like let me just try it think
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  Speaker 3: about it i made a gear design guided me the
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  Speaker 3: trunks came to my house. I put them on and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, actually, this is actually not that bad.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I would look like weird. Like I thought,
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  Speaker 3: cause for a second, I thought my legs were like
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  Speaker 3: skinny and I would have like chicken legs. No, now
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  Speaker 3: that I see myself and like match for it and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I actually look pretty good. So I
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  Speaker 3: was like, cause initially it was supposed to be like
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  Speaker 3: a one-off thing. I was supposed to just wear, I
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  Speaker 3: was going to wear it like once to see if
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  Speaker 3: I liked it. And then probably never wear it again. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Wear it, Liked it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Trunks are kind of like my thing. And the reason
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  Speaker 3: why I don't wear knee pads is kind of another
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  Speaker 3: inspiration I have is Jonathan Gresham. It's kind of why
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  Speaker 3: I don't wear knee pads. Okay. Because I saw him
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  Speaker 3: once and I was like, oh, he's short like I am.
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  Speaker 3: And he looks cool without knee pads. So I would
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  Speaker 3: try it. It was him and Gunther, actually. I like that.
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  Speaker 3: I got the idea from him. And I just did it.
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  Speaker 3: And all of my wrestling buddies look at me, they're like,
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  Speaker 3: how do you wrestle with, like, no knee pads? I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, my moveset doesn't really involve
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  Speaker 3: anything with knees, so I don't really have to use
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  Speaker 3: my knees that much. But, I mean, and also, I
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  Speaker 3: just thought it was fucking cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you could involve knees, and then they'd be
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  Speaker 2: more brutal, but you don't do it on a regular basis. No,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't do it to.
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  Speaker 3: Justify wearing knee pads. So that's my thought process. I
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  Speaker 3: don't do it. leg and knee stuff enough to justify
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  Speaker 3: wearing knee pads because I'm not coming in on my
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  Speaker 3: knees all the time. So I don't really need to
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  Speaker 3: wear them. But biggest inspiration for me is Kyle O'Reilly.
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  Speaker 3: I watch a lot of Tyler Bate, too. Okay. John
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  Speaker 3: the Gresham, obviously. And then someone that I did not
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  Speaker 3: necessarily think I would like as much, Lee Moriarty, too.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched his pure championship matches from time to time.
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  Speaker 3: The one with him and Will Uda, I watched that one.
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  Speaker 2: That was great.
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  Speaker 3: Nigel was great. Nigel was great too, yeah. I kind
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  Speaker 3: of want to do that pin he did to Will
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  Speaker 3: Uda in a match at some point, but it would
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  Speaker 3: have to be a pure rules match. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: do that one day. I don't know when, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to do that. That... And I just watched a
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  Speaker 3: lot of his independent stuff, too. I watched a lot
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  Speaker 3: of his stuff with Ashae. He faced Darius, not Darius Carter,
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  Speaker 3: but the other Carter, the other one, the last name Carter.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember his name right now. But he's the
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  Speaker 3: one that owns and promotes Ashae, but I can't remember
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  Speaker 3: his name right now. But I watched that one. And
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  Speaker 3: I also watched his other, his match with Jonathan Gresham. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So that was pretty good, too. I actually got to
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  Speaker 3: meet Jonathan Gresham at a Power Pro Lucha show, which
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  Speaker 3: was kind of nice.
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  Speaker 2: Is he nice?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a nice guy. He's a very nice guy.
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  Speaker 3: I met him and Orange Cassidy on the same night.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, very nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just walked out of the locker room and
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  Speaker 3: I just see Orange Cassidy. I said, Orange Cassidy. He said,
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  Speaker 3: what's up, dude? I'm like, oh. It wasn't like, oh.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't like big league me. He was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: what's up, dude?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't seem like a big leaguer.
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  Speaker 3: But he's not. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't seem like one.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he doesn't seem like one? Yeah, he's not. He's
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  Speaker 3: not a big leaguer.
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  Speaker 2: Plus, any guy who ever wrestled under an ant hood,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he's probably not going to be a
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  Speaker 2: big leaguer to anybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I talked to Drew Gulak from time to
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  Speaker 3: time about Orange Cassidy, because they were all in Chikara together.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: And that's also surreal for me, too. I don't mean
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: to go off subject, but that was also surreal, being
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: training under Drew Gulak, and I know him on a
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: personal level now, so that's kind of cool. But yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: inspiration-wise is Lee, Don, Kyle, Tyler from those parts.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Do you watch much Zack Sabre Jr.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I watch a little bit of Zack Sabre Jr. I
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: should watch more, but I don't know why. But I have.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I watched his Cruiserweight Classic matches. I've watched those. And
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I watched... His match with... Who am I thinking of?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I watched his match with... His New Japan match with,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I think... Was it Matt Riddle? Or was it? Yeah. Yeah, Matt. Yeah.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I watched that one too. That was a good watch.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Very good watch.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Anything with ZSJ and obviously Jonathan Grisham are amazing. Him
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: and Daniel Bryan or Bryan Danielson. And then, yeah, the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: one with him and.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Him and Nigel going back and forth in Wembley was
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite things on the planet.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: It wasn't an actual match between those two, but it didn't.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Have to be. Yeah. And Bryan Danielson, see, I almost
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: forgot about him. Bryan Danielson, I watched a lot of
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: his stuff. I watched his match with Tyler Black. Yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I watched that one. His match with Morishima, that one
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: was bad. Mm-hmm. Ugh.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: The ones with him and Nigel are sometimes gross because
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: they'll headbutt the post.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not okay. I don't know.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Early 2000s were a different era.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I low-key kind of wish I was
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: a wrestler back in that time because I would have
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: had a lot of fun.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can still have fun now.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: There's way more promotions now, too.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also true, too. I just like that little microcosm.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: of Ring of Honor at the time.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: That was just a lot.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: And also, I just recently watched the Necro Butcher and
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: some of the Joe match. Oh, yeah.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I had no idea about this before the Dark Side
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: of the Ring one. Yeah. I was like, why have
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I never heard about this match?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I watched it. Brutal. Brutal. Very brutal.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a... I remember seeing Necro Butcher live,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and I think it was him and Jimmy Jacobs did
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: a superplexed to the floor. And I was like, but
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: there was no table, no nothing. It was just two
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: of them. Why are we doing this? I don't know.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I can watch hardcore and deathmatch wrestling, but would I
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: participate in it personally as a wrestler myself? Probably not.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could do it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Once just to kind of check it off your bucket list.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah. I'd probably participate in it once.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, even Matt Cardone has done it. Yeah, I know. Yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing. I'm a wrestler, so... I feel
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: like I have to do at least like once just
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: to say I did it. But would I do it regularly? No.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were not saying regularly, but once you just
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: got to kind of get out of the way.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Well, so, I mean, you kind of mentioned that obviously
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Gulak has been somebody who's a veteran that you kind
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: of has helped you out along the way, but who
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: are some other veterans that have helped you out along
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: the way?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Um, Elon U. He's one of my favorites. He's a
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: pretty good guy, too. He actually is the one that
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: invited me to fight, so that's how I became a
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: regular there. He invited me down there, and I came down. Yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I talk regularly with Eel. What's his name? Travis Huckabee
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: is another one. Travis Huckabee. I don't know if you
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: know who he is, but old man, young boy, he's
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: another one of the trainers. I check in with him
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: from time to time. I'm giving them all shout outs
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: on this podcast. So bring them on. Bring them on
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: to this podcast. They're pretty good people to listen to.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: You're all welcome.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then my good, good friend Chaz from Peer Ignorance.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: He is also somebody that's helped me out a lot.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's the way that. They've taken me
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: under their wing. I really do appreciate it because they
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: didn't have to. They did. They gave me a lot
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: of pointers and tips and stuff to help me out.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Eel has definitely challenged me to think outside the box
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: when it comes to gimmicks and wrestling. He's a theater guy.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: He did theater, but he also wrestles too. He uses
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of his theater experience in his wrestling to to,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: what's the word I'm looking for, to perpetuate a lot
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: of like the good things about wrestling. So he's helped
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: me out a lot. Like I said, old man, young boy,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: he's helped me out a lot. He was recently on
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: the Purdue show. Well, that's cool. I'm talking about where
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: he at. That's on Produce. Him, and then, like I said, Chaz,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: They gave me a lot of notes, a lot of
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: stuff just to pay attention to, like crowd reaction and
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: where to plant a move here, put a move there, pacing,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: all that stuff.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, letting stuff breathe and letting the crowd build themselves
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: back up.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, instead of just sitting there going through move, move, move, move, move,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: it's just do a move, then do one, then wait
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: a little bit, do one, and then, you know, like that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: So I'm definitely trying to keep that in mind when
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I go out there and I wrestle, I try to
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: make sure that I'm not like speeding through stuff or, or,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: or trying to, you know, get from spot to spot
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: without letting the crowd digest what just happened. Um, so that's,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: that's how they've definitely helped me out. Um, and just, just,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: they've also helped me out with a little networking. So yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: that can never be more difficult. Uh, That's a very
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: big one. So that's also another way to help me out.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: This pushing me to network, pushing me to pace myself
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: and not go too fast or things like that. So
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: that's another way to help me out. Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: You probably think everything's going so fast, but in actual reality,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: it's going so slow.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: But we have to take the time. actually let them
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: process it and then, you know, work through the matches
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: as you need. Don't just, like you said, don't go boom, boom,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: boom all the way through the match. Cause nobody can
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: digest it. And it's not, you know, there's no reality
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: to it, especially with what you're doing. Like the story
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you're telling you're wanting to be an actual wrestler as
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: opposed to, you know, gif, gif, gif, high spot, high spot,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: high spot.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't really chase high spots. I don't really
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: do that. I mean, cause like one, I mean, I'm athletic,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: but like, I'm not nearly as athletic as like ricochet.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I can't do none of that stuff. Um, So I
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: try to tell my stories through struggle. Yes. Because Drew
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: says this all the time. He's like, if no one
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: can see what you're doing, they can't really react to
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: it the way you want them to. They can't see it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: So I try to slow myself down and make sure
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not going too fast. Since I've been in wrestling,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I've heard this so many fucking times. If you think
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: you're going too fast, slow down. Yep. Slow down. So
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I've heard that. I've always kept it in the back
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: of my head when I'm out there wrestling or whatever,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: that if I'm going too fast or I feel like
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I'm going too slow, slow down. And if I still
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: think I'm going too slow, slow down because they're not
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: going to be able to see what you're doing. If
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: you move, move, move, move, move.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: So no, that makes sense.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Again, you're, you're taking them on that journey. You're taking
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: them like it's, a lot of them haven't seen you
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: at all, ever. So they might be there to see
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the other person or they've never seen either one of you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: So you've got to help take them along and who
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: you are, how you're working in the ring and everything
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Because I am getting more comfortable with like
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: crowd reaction and stuff because sometimes they'll pop for something
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I'm doing and I'm like, oh, okay. That happened. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: remember one time I was wrestling at a not the
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: most recent EWA show, but probably the one before that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: And I was, I was doing a elbow to the knee, right?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: So I was doing like, you know, where you just
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: drop down elbow to the knee. And I put my
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: hand up and I say it one more time. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the whole crowd was like, one more time, one more time.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's, that's cool. I've never had
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: that happen to me before. So that was, that was,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: that was cool.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, that's the thing is trying new things. Again,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: everything's not going to stick. So, but you've got to
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: start figuring out what does and doesn't work. And especially
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: once you start going to different places, you find out
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: what does and doesn't work because they're different crowds. Because
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: if it were like, maybe the same thing will work
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: with every crowd, maybe. But for the most part, what's
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: going to work here is going to work here. But
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: what works over here isn't going to work in the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: first place.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of forces you to like try, like
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: you say, try different things. Yeah. Just forces you to
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're basically an improv comic.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Pretty much. Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: But with action, obviously. Well, so show days can.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Be long days.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: What are some standards you normally have in your bag?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Standards that I usually have? I make sure I have
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: all my gear. I make sure, because you know, I'm kidding.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I'm only without the gear. But the main thing I
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: kind of make sure I have in my gear bag
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: is finger tape and wrist tape because, you know, there's
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: always going to be someone who doesn't have it and
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: that needs it. And then it's always good to have
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: this extra just in case, you know, you might need
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: it for something. It might not even be for a rest.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, it might be because somebody got injured. You
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: just need to take them up real quick. Right, right.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of good to have that deodorant. Definitely
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: make sure I have that in there because even if
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I don't sweat that much, I still like put some on.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I put some on before. I go out, I put
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: someone after just to make sure I'm not reeking or
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not the one that's reeking because there's some people
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: that reek. So that's another one.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: You're not selling merch off of Stinky Pit.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: No. And then this is something I carry with me
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: because of jujitsu. I do it now for wrestling. It's
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: mouth guards. I make sure I have at least two
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: because I don't want to get my teeth knocked out
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: or busted lip because I just got hit just for
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: not having it in. So I usually have just, like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: mouth guards.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, it goes with the gimmick, too.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's also a gimmick thing, too. So it
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: kind of helps me out. Because that's the one thing
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I thought about when I got into wrestling. I didn't
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: want my teeth knocked out. So I was like, I
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: already trained you to do this. I already wear a
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: mouth guard. Let me just wear it here. It just
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: makes more sense that way.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Well, plus, I mean, even Cesaro got his teeth shoved
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: back into his head. So like, you know, and he's, yes,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: he's physical, but for the most part, he's not doing
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the same stuff you are.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: No. So, you know, I always thought it was good
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to have him because I was like, I don't want
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: any facial injuries because I was just being stupid. Right.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Plus, if anything, you could start getting custom ones or
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: make your own and sell them at the gimmick table.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I've thought about that. I got to actually get
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: on that now. So now, you're another person that's brought
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: that up.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: See, there we go. So the universe telling you to
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: get on it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to start bringing merch to the shows now.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Now, this question may not apply to you, but I'm
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: going to ask it anyway because I like to be
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: standard with all wrestlers, male or female. Do you have
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: a double-stick tape story?
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: A double-stick tape story.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Most people use it like fabric tape to kind of
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: make sure things don't fall out or they stay where
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: they need to.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: No. So what I do for that is when I
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: have my trunks, I have a pair of like a smaller,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: like pair of like swim trunks underneath.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I've always been curious about that too.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I always have that underneath because I'm not the person
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: that's going to just bare ass it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: You're not Ric Flair in it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: You said what?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: You're not Ric Flair in it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not doing that because I don't want to accidentally,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: like they try to do like a heelish like pin.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And now everybody sees my ass. Right. So I just,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I have a pair of black, like smaller, not like tight,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: but like smaller, like swim trunks underneath. So if I
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: was to pull my trunks down or they get pulled down,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: all you're seeing is black underwear underneath. You're not seeing
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: anything you don't need to see. So that's usually what
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I do to prevent like gear mishaps. There we go.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I have to make sure everyone's asked about it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: That's what I do.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: If anybody has never seen you wrestle before, what three
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: matches do they go out of their way to watch?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So I'm still kind of building that as we speak,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: but I have one. It's on my YouTube, but it's
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: this guy, Bradley Henderson, who also should be on your
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: show because he's pretty good. That one. That was a
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: pretty good one. I don't want to say that's a
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: nasty bump, but it looks crazy. I take his finish
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: at the end of the match, and it looks crazy.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I was not hurt at all. It just looks crazy
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: as shit. That's that one. There is the qualifier match
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: for the EWA C16. It was the pre-show match, but
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: that's another one. It's on the EWA's YouTube. So that's,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: that's there. Nice. Uh, just type in AJB versus lemon guy. That's,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: that's the match and show up. So that's two already.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: And then the third one, uh, I probably would say, um,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: me and Eddie boss, which also was a pre-show match,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: but that was one that I was really happy about. Um,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: not only because I performed well, but because my girlfriend
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: was there and she got to see me. So, um,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: So those three are three matches that I'd probably recommend.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Because I have other ones, but, you know, I don't know.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Some of them are cool. Some of them are good,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: and the other ones I prefer not to talk about.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, you got to have bad matches. Otherwise, you never
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: know what to do and what not to do.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: There's one match that I don't think we'll ever see
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: the light of day. But I was supposed to go
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: for a powerbomb, and he puts me up, and I
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: come down, and it looks like I spiked on my head.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I didn't spike on my head. I fell on my hands,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: and I... protected myself on my hands, but it is crazy.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: And also, the match itself, to me, I personally didn't like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: so I wouldn't recommend it for anybody. But me versus
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Lemon Guy, me, Eddie Bloss, and then me and Bradley Henderson.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Those are the three matches I can think of. And
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: they're also all very recent. They all happened this year. So, those.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I would recommend those to people. So, For anybody who's watching,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know when you're going to put this up,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: matches that you want to see from me, type in
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: AJB versus Lemon Guy, AJB versus Eddie Bloss, and then
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: AJB versus Bradley Henderson, or Bradley Henderson versus AJB. Because
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: that one's on my personal YouTube. When you type that
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: one in, it'll come up. So those are three I
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: would recommend for people who have never seen me. Recommend those,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: because those are Or matches I personally think are better.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: But it's also a fourth match that I would recommend.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: I would if I had the whole clip. I don't
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: have the whole match. It's me and David Moses. I
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: personally loved that match. I'm just upset that we only
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: have two minutes of it. We don't have that one.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just upset about that one. Because if I had
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the whole match, I would have posted that everywhere. Because
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I loved that one. But that's an honorable mention. But
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I don't have the whole match. I can't really recommend
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: that one. But those three I said, those are the
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: ones I probably would recommend because it encapsulates me.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: There we go. Well, I have a segment on the
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: show I call The Five Count, which is five random questions.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Number one, what was the last three things you Googled?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: The last three things I Googled? I Googled how to
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: make ranch dressing, how to make honey mustard, and not
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: how to make fries. I don't know how to make fries.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: But The last one was probably if dogs can eat grapes. Oh, yeah.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: They are not good for them.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't think that one up. They are not.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I ask my Alexa on a regular basis, but it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: good and not good for dogs.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, so that's the last two things
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I Googled that I can remember. There you go.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Number two, if you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: coffee shop, or dispensary, which one would you own and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: what would the name be?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Dispensary. Probably. And what I would call it, it sounds corny,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: but it's the first thing that kind of came to
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: my head. The weed to see, because it's like playing
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: on my little slogan. I probably would call it that.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, dispensary, because I mean, alcohol, I like alcohol,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: but I don't like it enough to have a drink. Coffee,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I don't really like coffee. If it was when you
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: didn't say that, I could open up probably like a
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: bookstore or something. Okay. Because I like reading articles. It'd
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: probably be like a Kindle store. Like, you know, Amazon Kindles. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: And rent it for like however long and then read
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: a book on there. I'd probably do that, too, in addition.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: And I'd probably open up a tea shop, too. I
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: like tea a lot.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could combine all of them together.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: A dispensary, bookstore. I could do that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: They give me ideas.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: It's just a brainstorming session. This is not an interview.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Number three, who was the last person you fanboyed out on?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: The last person I fanboyed out on? It's kind of funny.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: The last person that I fanboyed out on probably was
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Orange Cassidy because I didn't expect to meet him that day.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: So I was pretty shocked about it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It is one of those things when you see him
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: and obviously you don't expect him like, holy shit, what
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: are you doing?
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, that's literally what it was. Like, holy shit,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: what are you doing here?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Number four, who or what inspires you?
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: What inspires me? So I am a dad. So my
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: daughter does because I'd be looking at like, what's she
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: going to look like in like 15 years or 18?
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: That's one. My mom is because, you know, My mom
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: is a pretty strong, strong woman, especially after the last
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: two years. I don't want to say it's tough, but
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: it's been very, very different. And then probably, this is 3A, 3B.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Probably my dad, because he never got to see me wrestle.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: And then my girlfriend, because my girlfriend is ultra supportive.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: my girlfriends are supportive my dad never got to see
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: me wrestle so I do this more so for him
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: than me now my daughter because she is amazing even
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: though she has a very feisty little personality and then
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: my mom so that's 3P that's 4.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: People but you know 3A 3B that's perfect and then
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: number 5 what would you tell your 17 year old.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Self that you're going to be friends with Drew Gulak
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: in like 10 years That's what I would tell myself
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: because I remember watching the, the, the Cruiserweight Classic. I
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: was like, this would be so cool to be a
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: part of this. It'd be so cool to know these people.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: And little did I know, I, what, at this point, what,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: nine years later, I would be cool with Drew Gulak. Right.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I can talk to, uh, Lince Dorado whenever I want to. Um,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: and then I would meet one of the alternates for
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: the Cruiserweight Classic and Ian, and what's his name? Uh,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Filipino Grigio. He was one of the alternates for the
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Chris Ray Classic. So I speak to him, I don't
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: want to say on a regular basis, but I speak
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: to him frequently. I'm cool with you, Gulak, and I
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: can talk to Lindsay the Rider whenever I want to.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: That's what I would tell my 17-year-old self, that you
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: will know these people in like nine years.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Now, if people want to find out more
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: about you, see you live, follow you online, support you
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: in any way, how can they do so?
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Um, you can go, my TikTok is AJB, AJB, uh,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: the man to see. It's in a spell now. It's
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: not like initialized. It's spelled out. Um, Twitter or X
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: as they call it now is, it's just AJB MTS.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: That's what that is. So you just type that in
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: and I'll pop up. Excuse me. Um, my Instagram is
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: AJB TMTS pro. Um, and you'll see a little cool
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: little thing on my Instagram. Um, I'm going to be
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: in a video game, so that was kind of nice.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: And Wrestling Booking Simulator 2026, I'm going to be in that.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: It's not pinned, but it's on top of my profile,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: so you'll see it when you look at it. Their
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: EWA Pro Wrestling, I get posts on there pretty frequently
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: because I get booked on their shows. Fight Club Pro Wrestling,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: they post on their Facebook and Instagram, not Instagram, Facebook
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: and Instagram too. I didn't want to say not. Facebook, Instagram,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: and their YouTube, the shows that they have, and they
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: do weekly episodic shows called Mochella. So I'm featured in
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: like the most recent one they put out because my
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: tag match is on that one. So you can see
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: me wrestling on there too. So Fight Club Pro, EWA
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Pro Wrestling, Thank.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: You so much to AJB for being on the show. Again,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: definitely make sure to follow him on social media. Find
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: out where he's going to be. Follow him and obviously
• 40:38
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• 40:41
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• 40:43
  Speaker 1: him and all the independent wrestlers while you're out there.
• 40:46
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• 40:47
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• 40:48
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• 40:49
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• 40:55
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• 40:58
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• 41:00
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• 41:03
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• 41:05
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• 41:07
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• 41:08
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• 41:11
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