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Reading Roundup, Q3 2024 · Pick Up and Deliver

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to pick up and deliver the podcast where I
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  Speaker 1: pick up my audio recorder as I step out for
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  Speaker 1: a walk and deliver an episode two while I stroll around.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Brendan Riley. Well, good morning, listeners. It is a
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  Speaker 1: crisp sunny morning here in suburban Chicago. The sun is out,
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  Speaker 1: it's bright, the sky is clear. You can hear the
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  Speaker 1: birds chirping in the cars driving by. But it is
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  Speaker 1: it is chilly thirteen degrees according to my home I
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  Speaker 1: don't know device, but possibly colder with wind chill. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I am thoroughly bundled up though, so no
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  Speaker 1: worries there. And I'm on my way to the library
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  Speaker 1: in the hardware store and then back home. So gonna
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  Speaker 1: record two episodes this morning, probably crank them out in
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  Speaker 1: the next couple of days, because I put one out
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  Speaker 1: this morning. So you're gonna see not quite daily episodes,
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  Speaker 1: I suspect in the next couple of weeks, but significant
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  Speaker 1: and often ones.
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  Speaker 2: I've got.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be episode six eighty four, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go up to six ninety with regular episodes,
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  Speaker 1: and then we're going to do a ten part Top
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  Speaker 1: fifty countdown that's where we are, all right. So today
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  Speaker 1: I was looking back and it's been almost fifty episodes
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  Speaker 1: since I did one of these, and I'm well past
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  Speaker 1: due for the next one. This is our reading check
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  Speaker 1: in for those of you new to the podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: do a reading roundup four times a year, once sometime
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  Speaker 1: after the end of a quarter, in which I read, like, ideally,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to read twelve to thirteen books in a
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  Speaker 1: quarter this semester. This year, I've been a little off pace.
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  Speaker 1: I read nine in quarter three, which is what we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about today. Quarter three, of course, July August, September.
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  Speaker 1: So if I sound a little rusty on these books,
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  Speaker 1: it's because I waited too long to do this report.
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  Speaker 1: Normally I do the report about halfway through the next quarter,
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  Speaker 1: but I got distracted or forgot to do it or
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  Speaker 1: whatever in quarter three what.
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  Speaker 2: With school and whatnot. So here we are, let's jump
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  Speaker 2: right in.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about these in the order I
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  Speaker 1: read them, so don't ascribe order. Quality and order do
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily go together. The first one is Heart Shaped Box.
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  Speaker 1: This is a book I had a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: trouble getting into. I actually put it down and then
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  Speaker 1: picked it back up again later, and it was down
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  Speaker 1: long enough that when I picked it back up again,
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  Speaker 1: I just started it over because I'd gotten forty or
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  Speaker 1: fifty pages in and I just didn't click, so I
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  Speaker 1: put it down read other things. So I started it
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  Speaker 1: like two years ago, and then I redid it this
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  Speaker 1: last July. Joe Hill is the writer, who's a very
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  Speaker 1: accomplished horror writer, and this is a really moody story
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  Speaker 1: of a kind of dibbook type deal where somebody's being
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  Speaker 1: haunted by a ghost that was sent to them in
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  Speaker 1: a malevolent way in a heart shaped box. It's a
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  Speaker 1: good ghost story, nice and creepy. The book's a little long, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I think it could be fifty or one hundred page
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  Speaker 1: shorter and it would probably be better. But I did
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  Speaker 1: get into it pretty well and got through it this
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  Speaker 1: time and enjoyed it. So I don't want to say
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  Speaker 1: too much because I think the way the story unfolds
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  Speaker 1: is pretty great and I don't want to give anything away,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a guy being haunted intentionally, sort of
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  Speaker 1: malevolently by a ghost related to something from his past.
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  Speaker 2: The main character is pretty well sketched.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a kind of burnt out rock and roll figure,
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  Speaker 1: sort of along the lines of like an Ozzy Osbourne type,
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  Speaker 1: and his public persona and kind of double make care
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  Speaker 1: attitude is part of what gets him into trouble in
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  Speaker 1: the first place and causes all this. So, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. Next up, we have Echo Praxia. This is
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  Speaker 1: a sci fi novel from Peter Watts. I listened to
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  Speaker 1: this on audiobook. Peter Watts is an interesting writer. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there is I don't think I've read a
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  Speaker 1: harder sci fi writer than Peter Watts at his most
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  Speaker 1: technical parts of Neil Stevenson novels Get This Way, Cryptonomicon
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  Speaker 1: has chunks that are like this, and Kim Stanley Robinson's
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  Speaker 1: Red Earth, Blue Earth, Green Earth, which I've only read
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  Speaker 1: the first one of, or.
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  Speaker 2: Read Mars the Mars trilogy.
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  Speaker 1: Those have a lot of science in them too, but
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  Speaker 1: Peter Watts just goes really over the top and exploring
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  Speaker 1: scientifically ideas through science fiction. This novel, Echopraxia is sort
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  Speaker 1: of a continuation of stuff that we discover in blind Sight,
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  Speaker 1: which is another really good, very heavy sci fi novel.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say whether I like this one better than
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  Speaker 1: that one, because I read that one a very long
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  Speaker 1: time ago. But I thought this one was pretty good
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  Speaker 1: and did make me put Peter Watts back onto my
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  Speaker 1: I should read those once a year list. I also
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  Speaker 1: read one other one by him, which is about the Internet.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember what that one's called now. If you look,
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  Speaker 1: i'm my good Reads, I'm sure you could find it,
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  Speaker 1: or I'll put a link in the show notes. Echopraxia
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  Speaker 1: is about some sort of contest between humans and and
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  Speaker 1: a new interstellar enemy, or I should say beings on
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  Speaker 1: Earth and an interstellar enemy. The way that vampires show
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  Speaker 1: up in blind Sight, those vampires are back as well.
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  Speaker 1: The novel's a little confusing at the beginning, but by
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  Speaker 1: the end it all kind of pieces together in feel
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  Speaker 1: and tone.
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me a bit of the Neil Stephenson.
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  Speaker 1: Novel Anathem, which has these sort of monks and mystical
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  Speaker 1: ideas and thinking about the way that human brains work.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty interesting stuff. Hchopraxia, we're checking out. My wife and
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  Speaker 1: I together read Marple twelve New Mysteries. These are mysteries
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  Speaker 1: written by contemporary authors using the Miss Marple character and
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  Speaker 1: sort of imagining new stories for her.
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  Speaker 2: It's about as good as you'd think. Some of them
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  Speaker 2: are great, some of them are okay.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Marple's a fun character, and the ones who hit
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  Speaker 1: her best it really works.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: If you like Miss Marple stories and you want some
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  Speaker 1: more of them. I think it's worth reading. I might
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  Speaker 1: get it from the library rather than buying it, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, you do you. My next one is Seven
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  Speaker 1: EV's or Seven Eves by Neil Stevenson. This is another
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  Speaker 1: of his sort of doorstopper science fiction tons. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was the first book after Anathem, and it feels
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  Speaker 1: like it. It's very long, future, big ideas, big development
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  Speaker 1: kinds of notions that it really works well.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a.
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  Speaker 1: Compelling story told very very well in the way that
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  Speaker 1: Stevenson does better than almost anybody else that I've read
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  Speaker 1: in terms of putting him in order. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's as good as Anathem. I think it's better than Mariamdi.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's better than the new one about global warming.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember what that's called, although I did like
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  Speaker 1: that one quite a bit. Yeah, long arc story, good
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  Speaker 1: character development, very heavy sci fi ideas mixed in thinking
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  Speaker 1: about how can the world survive complicated problems? And of course,
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  Speaker 1: as in all Neil Stephenson novels, smart people solving smart
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  Speaker 1: problems in smart ways, and I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Next up we have Edge of the Wire.
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  Speaker 1: This is a book from Scott Kennimore, a personal friend,
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  Speaker 1: so take that with a grain and salt. But Scott
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  Speaker 1: is developing better and better every time I read one
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  Speaker 1: of his books, which you know, he's got probably a
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  Speaker 1: dozen published titles now maybe more, and this one is
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  Speaker 1: one of his best. Edge of the Wire is a
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  Speaker 1: science fiction horror story. The premise is it's the far
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  Speaker 1: future human beings. Whenever we discover a new planet, we
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  Speaker 1: go in and wire the planet so that the Goo,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of Google has become a religion, can
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  Speaker 1: see everything and guide us in everything we need to know.
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  Speaker 1: And we find a planet that's hard to wire. And
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  Speaker 1: it's science fictionally, it's science fiction y and scary and great.
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  Speaker 1: I read it in like twenty four hours. It's a
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  Speaker 1: quick read, not super super deep, but some fun ideas
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  Speaker 1: and well written in the ways that Scott usually can do.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely worth checking out if you get a chance. Edge
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  Speaker 1: of the Wire next up is a goofy comic. I
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  Speaker 1: founded a library called Dwellings. This is by Jay Stevens.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of like if Lucy the comic strip Lucy
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  Speaker 1: or the comic strip Mutt and Jeff were written as
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  Speaker 1: a horror comic.
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  Speaker 2: This is what it would look like.
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  Speaker 1: It's very cute, see, very sort of disney fied nineteen
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  Speaker 1: fifties style, but horror stuff happening, so really horrific. Good stories.
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  Speaker 1: They kind of interweave a little bit, but they're all
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  Speaker 1: standalone tales. There's maybe five of them in the book,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a good read.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely recommend if you like horror.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff and the clash between the art style and the
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  Speaker 1: content really works well. It makes for a jarring and
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  Speaker 1: entertaining read. So if you get a chance, definitely check
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  Speaker 1: out Dwellings by Jay Stevens. Next up is Death of
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  Speaker 1: a Maid by mc beaton. Mc beaton is an author
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  Speaker 1: I've been living with for probably half my life, if
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  Speaker 1: not more. I think I started reading these books when
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  Speaker 1: I was in graduate school, which was more than twenty
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  Speaker 1: years ago. They are very light, goofy mystery stories about
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  Speaker 1: a Scottish policeman and his time in this tiny little
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  Speaker 1: town called Lachdieux in northern Scotland. The whole premise is
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  Speaker 1: he's very smart, he's really good at solving mysteries, but
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  Speaker 1: what he really likes to do is hang around. He
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  Speaker 1: really likes the community he lives in. He really likes
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  Speaker 1: community policing. He does not want to be promoted, but
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  Speaker 1: he's happy to help solve murders when they happen on
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  Speaker 1: his patch. And sort of like Murder, she wrote, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of murders on his patch. It's sort of weird,
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  Speaker 1: but they never really address the fact that there's way
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  Speaker 1: too many murders for the size of this area. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 1: they make for pretty intertaining stories. That said, they're all
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  Speaker 1: kind of the same. I mean, credit to mc beaton
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  Speaker 1: for telling interesting stories over and over again, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: like a procedural mystery, each episode of Murder, she wrote,
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  Speaker 1: is kind of the same as.
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  Speaker 2: The last one.
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  Speaker 1: Mc Beaton's Hey, Miss mccrath novel work very similarly. I've
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  Speaker 1: gotten in the habit again of reading them about once
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  Speaker 1: a year. I'm actually gonna pick one up at the
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  Speaker 1: library today if they have the one I need. But
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to read them too much. More in
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  Speaker 1: that because they're all so similar, they also have the
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  Speaker 1: problem and I don't like this about them. That often
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  Speaker 1: the crucial piece of evidence that we need to solve
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  Speaker 1: the mystery.
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  Speaker 2: The detective gets.
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  Speaker 1: That evidence and then rush us to confront the killer
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, and we don't get to see it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he makes a call and he says, oh, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: that's great to know, but he doesn't get to hear
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  Speaker 1: what they said, which is sort of frustrating because often
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  Speaker 1: the way these mysteries are built, there's not a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of clues that point toward the killer. There's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of clues that set things up, and then this
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  Speaker 1: phone call is the piece, the keystone of the arch
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  Speaker 1: that puts it all together, and you don't get to
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  Speaker 1: hear the keystone, so's.
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  Speaker 2: We don't get the mystery. We don't get the.
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  Speaker 1: Evidence we need to solve the mystery the way that
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't like a Miss Marble novel where Poirot sees
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff. Although Poirot is always a fair play
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  Speaker 1: mystery either, sometimes he'll get information that they keep from us.
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  Speaker 2: It just is very deliberate. In Haymish Macbeth novels.
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  Speaker 1: Mc beaton is also the writer who came up with
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  Speaker 1: the character Agatha Raisin, who is an advertising executive, and
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  Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of those novels as well. I
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  Speaker 1: don't generally read those, although we've enjoyed the show, mostly
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  Speaker 1: because I find Agatha to be an interminably annoying character.
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  Speaker 1: She's self possessed and clever and entrepreneurial, all of which
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  Speaker 1: I really like, but she's also super arrogant and kind
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  Speaker 1: of rude, and I don't find that fun in the
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  Speaker 1: way it's written, and I don't find it funny, and
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  Speaker 1: more importantly, in the first novel, she's like pursuing a
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  Speaker 1: poisoner and she's hanging out with somebody who she definitely
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  Speaker 1: thinks is a suspect, and she takes food from them
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  Speaker 1: like as a courtesy and eats it and drinks it,
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  Speaker 1: and then it turns out she was being poisoned. Stupid,
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  Speaker 1: So I've had a kind of grudge against Agatha Raisin
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, So I don't read those ones,
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  Speaker 1: but I do like Death of What and Death of
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  Speaker 1: a Maid is the most recent one I read. Except
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: we have Ahmad el Motar and Max Gladstone's novel This
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  Speaker 1: Is How You Lose the Time War. This definitely is
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  Speaker 1: in the top five for me. I liked it better
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  Speaker 1: than Echopraxia, I think, although those were close. I think
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  Speaker 1: Seven Eves and Edge of the Wire both squeak there
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  Speaker 1: I have passed This Is How You Lose the Time War.
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  Speaker 1: But boy, this is a good book and I definitely
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  Speaker 1: can recognize this book is the sort of most interesting
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  Speaker 1: from a literary perspective of the ones we're talking about. Essentially,
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  Speaker 1: this is a novel written from two perspectives. There's a
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  Speaker 1: character Read and a character Blue, both of whom are
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  Speaker 1: time traveling sort of super warriors who are fighting a
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  Speaker 1: time war on behalf of two different factions, and they
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  Speaker 1: fall in love with one another, and that love is
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  Speaker 1: conveyed through notes that they leave to each other. So
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  Speaker 1: what you're reading are the notes they've left for each other,
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  Speaker 1: which are hidden from their two factions and meant to
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  Speaker 1: convey this on growing relationship between the two.
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  Speaker 2: Characters who've never met in person.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fascinating story, really well written, although it is
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  Speaker 1: oblique and a little confusing and definitely demands that you
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  Speaker 1: kind of have a loosey goosey sense of like, how
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  Speaker 1: does the world work and how do these things happen?
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  Speaker 1: We don't really get very much explanation about the science
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  Speaker 1: fictionality of this world. We get odd references to it
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  Speaker 1: the way you would if you lived it. One of
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  Speaker 1: the challenges of writing an interesting science fiction world is
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  Speaker 1: figuring out how much to describe it, because the more
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  Speaker 1: you describe, the more you're reminding the reader that they're
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  Speaker 1: not part of the world. And so if part of
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  Speaker 1: your premise is these are letters from one character to another,
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  Speaker 1: it would not make sense for them to spend much
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  Speaker 1: time explaining how their world works, because they both know
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  Speaker 1: how the world works. So these authors basically choose to
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  Speaker 1: not explain it, and they leave it up to the
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  Speaker 1: reader to puzzle through how things happen. In This is
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  Speaker 1: How You Lose the Time War, and it works out great.
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  Speaker 1: It's a really good book, and I suspect as time
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  Speaker 1: goes on it's one I'll think about or continue to
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  Speaker 1: feel strong about even after other books fade.
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  Speaker 2: Down the line. So that's This is How You Lose
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  Speaker 2: the Time War. And the last book I read in
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  Speaker 2: quarter three is Jaws. Jaws is a novel by Peter Benchley.
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  Speaker 1: It is the novel on which the nineteen seventy five
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  Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg movie was based. It was in a bidding
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  Speaker 1: war right away, shortly after the short story version of
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  Speaker 1: it appeared in Playboy. I believe there was a bidding
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  Speaker 1: war for the story or for the novel, and universal
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  Speaker 1: want it.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I read Jaws.
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  Speaker 1: I've read it three times now, twice in middle school
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  Speaker 1: and then once now. When I read it in middle school,
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  Speaker 1: I remember it being a little scary, a little erotic,
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  Speaker 1: a little hilarious at parts, and a little mystifying because
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  Speaker 1: there were lots of things in there that were like
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  Speaker 1: grown up worries, growing up worrying about grown up things.
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I remember from the book.
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  Speaker 1: I do oh no, I read it. Okay, so three
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  Speaker 1: times we're in middle school, high school, and now the
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  Speaker 1: high school one is I wrote my senior paper on
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  Speaker 1: the novel, because there's of course a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: stuff in there, just making it be about Moby Dick.
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  Speaker 1: If you've never read Mobi Dick, there's a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: stuff in Jaws. This is directly referencing the story of
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  Speaker 1: Captain Ahabb fighting.
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  Speaker 2: The whale, including the ending.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the book and the movie has long been one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite movies, if not my favorite movie. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's incredibly made, really good. Broke my heart when
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  Speaker 1: I showed her to my daughter and she said, kind
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  Speaker 1: of boring, dad. Oh well, All in all, Jaws is
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  Speaker 1: a great film. As a book, though I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was okay, this time reading it with an adult eye
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  Speaker 1: and having a lot more experience reading good literature, I
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  Speaker 1: would say it's shockingly mean.
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  Speaker 2: The characters are grittier than I remembered.
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  Speaker 1: A subplot with the mayor being mobbed up that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of depressing, and generally just it's a much darker book
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the outlook on the people, so it's
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  Speaker 1: not just the shark, but also like really people who
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  Speaker 1: are having a hard time and not great people kind
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  Speaker 1: of wrestling with each other, and frankly, it makes them
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  Speaker 1: more interesting as characters. Chief Brody's kind of a cipher
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  Speaker 1: as a character in the film because we don't need
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  Speaker 1: him to be clearly defined. But I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: would have been as good. I don't think the movie
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  Speaker 1: would have been as good had they carried all these
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  Speaker 1: character elements over. But I think the book has a
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  Speaker 1: kind of meanness of spirit that is not part of
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  Speaker 1: the movie. So I ended up rereading it because I
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  Speaker 1: found a not first printing, but first edition copy used
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  Speaker 1: at a bookstore for six bucks I think eight bucks maybe,
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  Speaker 1: So it has like the gray Shark cover, and it's hardcover,
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  Speaker 1: and it is a book that it's long been important
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  Speaker 1: to me, so I'm gonna hang on to it. But
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really enjoy it as much this time around
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  Speaker 1: as I had obviously or I had hoped I would.
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  Speaker 1: So well, that's about it for me for this episode.
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  Speaker 1: What have you been reading or what did you read
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  Speaker 1: between July and September in twenty twenty four? Head over
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  Speaker 1: to board Game Get Guilt three two six nine and
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  Speaker 1: share your reading list there. In other words, I hope
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  Speaker 1: that you're having a lovely January, and I look.
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  Speaker 2: Forward to next time I talk to you. I hope
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  Speaker 2: your next walk is as closedness as mine was. Bye bye.
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  Speaker 1: To September, October or August June July August, September would
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  Speaker 1: be quarter three.
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  Speaker 1: Yuh