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UK Column News Podcast 10th April 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the tenth of April twenty twenty four, just
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after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your host, Mike
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Ruminson joining me today. We've got Vanessa Billy from Damascus and Charles Mallett.
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Welcome to the program both. Now we're going to get started with David Cameron
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and Ukraine in a sense, but David Cameron was in Washington yesterday and we're
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going to label this as a sick mind. And I have to say David
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Cameron has a sick mind. I'll explain that in a second. But just
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before I do, this was him in Washington yesterday. But just today,
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just before we came on the news program, the UK government has announced a
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Ukraine Defense Pact between the UK and Ukraine, and the quote that Charles particularly
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noticed from this says the UK has now provided almost twelve billion pounds in military,
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humanitarian and economic support to Ukraine and has often been the first mover in
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vital lethal aid from storm Shadow cruise missiles to squadron of Challenger to tanks.
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So perhaps that's sets the scene on why I'm suggesting David Cameron has a sick
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mind, because while he was in Washington yesterday, Well, he began by
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going to see Donald Trump. He then met Anthony Blincoln. But he was
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really there to try to get past the blockage in funding from Congress. So
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he was there to try to bully Congress into continuing to fund arms in the
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Ukraine. But during the press conference afterwards, this is what he had to
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say to me. I argue that it is extremely good value for money for
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the United States and for others, perhaps for about five or ten percent of
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your defense budget. Almost half of Russia's pre war military equipment has been destroyed
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without the loss for single American life. This is an investment in United States
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security. So that's what I would say. So I'd like to get your
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thoughts on this from both of you. Vanessa, First, I mean,
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am I wrong in suggesting that there's sick minded at work that would make a
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statement like that. So what he's basically said is one hundred of thousands of
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Ukrainian lives sacrificed in a NATO proxy war against Russia is more bang for your
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buck. Indeed, yeslation right, Yeah, Yes, that's disgusting. I
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mean it's yeah, it's unbelievable. Or maybe not, but it is sick.
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Charles, what are your thoughts. Good afternoon, Mike, Good afternoon.
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All well, I think, obviously Vanessa makes a very good point the
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other thing he refers to as an investment in American security, and given past
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experience, if we're taking at face value, antagonizing or indeed creating a sense
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of aggression against Russia is only likely to have the backfire effect of further anti
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Western, anti American sentiment. So I think he's you know, that's another
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thing that he's very much overlooked. And also knocking Russia back into the Stone
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Age economically would not be to the benefit of any of the nations that are
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talking about it, indeed, so thank you for that now. And in
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the meantime, in Ukraine itself, the Ukrainians have now attacked the Zaparrojia Nuclear
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par station twice over the last three or four days. This is task reporting
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Ukraine drone shot down over Zacharo Sorry, Zaprosia Nuclear Power Plant debris falls on
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roof of Unit six. This is the quote from the z MPP itself.
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Ukraine's attempts to shell the z Aprosia Nuclear Power Plant continues today. A Kamakazi
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drone was shot down over the power plant. It fell on the roof of
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the sixth par unit. Threats to the z MPP's safety have not been identified.
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Mario Grossi, the Director General of the ie EA, had this to
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say, this is a major escalation of the nuclear safety and security dangerous facing
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this Aprosia Nuclear power plant. Such reckless attacks significantly increase the risk of a
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major nuclear accident and must cease immediately. Well, what was the American position
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on this? This is Matthew Miller, the State Department spokesman said. He
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said, it's dangerous that they've done that. That's the Ukrainians, and we
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continue to call on Russia to withdraw it's military and civilian personnel from the plant,
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to return full control of the plant and the competent Ukrainian authorities, and
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refrain from taking any actions that could result in a nuclear incident at the plant.
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Again, this is I just wonder what the mentality is of these people
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Vanessa, where you know, the Ukrainians bomb and nuclear power station, and
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the US says that the Russia needs to refrain from doing anything which is going
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to result in a nuclear incident. Yeah, I mean it's you know,
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they're just in denial mode. I mean, when Israel bombs an Iranian embassy
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on Syrian soil, they deny it. They deny that Israel is committing atrocities
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in Gaza, or is actually carrying out a genocide. And now basically it's
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passed the buck back to Russia, even though their proxy is the one that's
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carried out the attack. It is just obscene. Actually yes, So in
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the meantime, the obscenity continues because the RAF has now deployed a squadron to
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Romania. So here they are and this is all about Nitto's eastern flank and
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protecting Niddo's eastern flank courses close to the Black Sea. And so the RAF
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typhoon fighters are now taking part in a four month mission. It's a sort
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of retailing missions that they've done this before. They'll do it again in the
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future, I'm sure, from with jets from a nine bomber squadron along with
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more than two hundred RAF personnel from one forty expeditionary Air Wing deployed from RIF
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Loss in Mouth into Romania, and they'll fly alongside the Rumanian Air Force is
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part of NATO's Enhanced Air Policing mission until August. And of course this is
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all about engaging with Russian aircraft, so they're very keen to make sure that
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we know that aircraft frequently intercepted by the RAF during previous air policing missions include
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Russian long range strategic bombers, civiliance aircraft and transport aircraft, and various other
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intercepts. They say are key to maintaining airspace security and protecting international borders,
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as well as acting as a clear deterrent against threats. This is what Grant
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Shapps had to say. Our NATO air policing deployment helps keep Europe's sky secure,
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ready to launch at a moment's notice. For the next four months.
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The typhoon pilots will respond with professionalism to threats and instance in support of our
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collective security. Charles, later on, you're going to be talking about war
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readiness and so on. But are you buying any of the rhetoric from the
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from the British government on this. No, I'm afraid not, And as
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you say, I will come on to specify exactly why not. But no,
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I mean, at the moment seems like an awful lot of bluster with
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no substance at all. Indeed, it gets even better because there's been an
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update on August and now, of course August is the trilateral Security and Defense
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partnership between Australia, UK and US. It was first announced in September twenty
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twenty one, and well, as they would describe it, it sees the
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three nations work together on a range of capability to support a free and open
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end of Pacific, including conventionally armed nuclear parts submarine capability for the UK and
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Australia under Pillar one of the partnership. Now, of course this is about
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moving the war narrative towards China, and again let's bring grand Chaps on screen
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here, and he had this to say, in a more dangerous world,
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relationship partnerships like Aucust are more important than ever. We've always said we would
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engage additional nations in our Pillar two work as it progresses, and collaborating with
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like minded countries will strengthen the partnership further. Now the question is once he
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talking about well, they said that with respect Pillar two they would bring new
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countries in and in this case they're talking about Japan. So the Japanese very
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keen to get involved. The Chinese not so excited about it as we might
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expect, so that this was a release from the Chinese Embassy in the UK
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through CCTV, the Chinese news agency, and they're saying the Chinese Embassy in
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the United Kingdom on Tuesday voiced firm opposition to the United States, the UK
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and Australia's insistence on advancing the so called trilateral Security partnership in disregard of the
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wide concerns of regional countries and the international community about nuclear proliferation risks. And
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they're saying, we urge the UK, the US, the UK and Australia
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to baden the Cold War mentality, stop cobbling together exclusionary blocks, and cease
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stirring trouble and camp confrontration in the Asia Pacific region. Japan must learn lessons
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from history and be prudent about its words and actions when it comes to military
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security. And again, this is expansionism. We're going to come on to
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NATO expansionism in just a second, but Vanessa, again, we're expanding our
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reach with a view to putting pressure on certain countries. And how are they
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supposed to respond to this, well, yeah, I mean this is the
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thing, isn't that we are constantly in the West and they, allies or
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the properties of the West, are constantly expanding the conflict by effectively violating international
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law and provoking the expansion of the conflict and then acting victim when there is
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a response to the provocation, despite the fact that Russia, China and Iran
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are trying to maintain an equilibrium which the West is constantly trying to break.
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Yes, and just on the continuing on the subject of expansion, coming back
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to NATO, and of course the discussion has been had over the last couple
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of years, particularly since the Special Military Operation in Ukraine kicked off, about
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why Russia is doing this and denials from the West about any guarantees given to
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Russia about expansion will more documents have been released now through the National Security Archive
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in the United States and basically admitting that they had promised Russia that there would
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be no interference in the internal affairs of CIS countries as the Commonwealth of Independent
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States, and in fact the documents show that they then are having given those
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guarantees. This is in the nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety seven time period.
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They went straight on ahead and did interfere in those countries to the degree
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that they pursued color revolution. So just take a quote here from Open Democracy
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to give an example. This is from a report called Democratization, NGOs and
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Color Revolutions, and they say these three revolutions, the Rose Revolution in Georgia,
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the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, and the Chilip Revolution in Kyrgyzstan each followed
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a near identical trajectory. All were spearheaded by the American democratization international NGOs working
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at the behest of of US foreign policy establishment. And this is the key
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point. Russia in particular has been on the receiving end, and the countries
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around Russia have been on the receiving end of the activities from international NGOs,
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and that has resulted in or assisted the expansion of NATO eastwards and helped build
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this pressure. But just to end this segment, I've just got a little
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bit of video here from Ukraine and let's just have a look at this.
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So Vanessa, just very quickly, just to do a quick translation, the
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children there were singing our father is Bandera, and I mean it's just incredible.
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The claims that there's no Nazi interest or Nazi indoctrination in Ukraine, and
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then we see video clips like that. Yeah, I mean that, you
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know, the extremist supremacist indoctrination goes across all of the countries that are allied
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with the West, including of course Israel, which starts there. The indoctrination
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starts in Kindergarten, and clearly the same in Ukraine. But yep, there's
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no Nazi ideology in Ukraine. Indeed. Okay, thank you for that.
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Let's come on to UK's readiness and well we'll begin with Charles Middle seventy five,
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yes indeed, and back to David Cameron. I'm fraid who spoke last
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week at the Royal United Services Institute. But the transcript of the speech was
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published yesterday, and what I'd like to draw out of this is the narrative
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that he's attempting to sort of contrive, as Mike says on the anniversary of
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seventy five years of NATO. So we just look at some of the texts
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that he's using, and of course he brings up the repeated subject of Article
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five and an attack on one is an attack on all and it's quite clear
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that within all of this, what he's really talking about is Ukraine and the
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idea that the United Kingdom should go to war on Ukraine's behalf, but of
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course is not in NATO. Anyway, he goes on talking about the growing
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threat and saying that most of NATO's life has had a clear threat. We
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certainly have that today. Its success is clearly based on its continued expansion.
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Well, of course I refer back to exactly what Mike's been saying about expansion
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in the previous segment. Anyhow, Cameron goes on to say, whilst it's
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clear NATO is not a participant in the conflict in Ukraine, the outcome of
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the war that happens in Ukraine is in my view, absolutely vital to the
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future of Ukraine, and that's one of the reasons why Britain so strongly supports
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Ukraine's struggle. Well, I don't think there's a very coherent narrative running through
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that, but nonetheless he continues to be talking about Ukraine as a part of
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NATO and NATO that will be strong and everyone will see the strength of its
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alliance. Everyone will recognize Ukraine should be and will be a part of NATO.
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NATO's capability will grow and people will see that we in the West are
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capable of standing up to a threat of this magnitude. So not only do
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we see Ukraine being used as a proxy in the current conflict, but also
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the likes of David Cameron effectively using Ukraine by proxy to express the threat to
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NATO because in effect none has actually been articulated comprehensively from Russia, so he
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has to push on and create a story that suggests that that is the case.
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Now, what I'd like to do is look at the way in which,
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in effect propaganda is being sold internally to the British Army. This is
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the April edition of Soldier magazine and internal but certainly not restricted publication, and
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you'll just see on the front page there the mission to prep Gen z Officers
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for War. Now inside there is a spread of several pages of what's been
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going on at the Role Military Academy Sandhurst, which is where the Army officer
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training is conducted and effectively a total over hall of the curriculum. But based
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on this premise and with the service under firm instructions to prepare for war and
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lessons from Ukraine's front lines coming thick and fast, an overhaul of sorts was
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inevitable. Well for Sandhurst, that's actually quite a departure because the whole point
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of Sandhurst training is that you're training for your training for a war rather than
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the war, so it should be generic training. But obviously the focus here
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is very obviously specifically on Ukraine. Now they've set themselves up for a bit
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of a fall in saying that if they succeed by next year at least their
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commissioned officers should be coming out or at least going through as being curious,
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self motivated, combat ready, resilient, confident on long operations, exemplars of
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the Army's values and standards, innovative, brilliant problem solvers, digitally aware and
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well versed on combined arms maneuver. So combined arms maneuver is something that the
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MOD has been to talking about in Poland, exactly like Mike was saying,
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the exercise that's going on at minute. But again just to concentrate on the
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numbers, they say that the United Kingdom has thirteen hundred men there, which
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it equates to a combined arms battlegroup. So not really, given the sort
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of fanfare with which Cameron's talking about all this stuff, not really such a
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significant deployment. But all of this relates to the Future Soldier, published back
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in November twenty twenty one, when of course Russia had not commenced any of
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the activities it's now undertaking, indeed, nor had Ukraine. But just to
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look at understanding Future Soldier, I should draw your attention to the many,
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many references to climate change which you might not quite be able to read in
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that opening paragraph. But effectively, this is a progressive system, the integrated
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operating concept which Mike in particular has spoken a lot about before. And the
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reason I've put you are here is that the constrain function talks about the involvement
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of the use of force being a proactive and assertive element. And of course
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it's only one step short of actual war fighting, so we've moved through protect
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and engage, and that's fairly significant. And I would say that when in
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the current climate, putting out graphics like this for Steadfast Defender, I mean
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looks very very much like it is absolutely gearing up for war. And then
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just to go back to this edition of Soldier magazine, amazingly, this is
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what would be page one of the magazine, effectively an advertisement for people to
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put themselves forward for what's called Op Interflex, which is the training of Ukrainian
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troops in the UK. So what kind of capacity does that require? Well,
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the Ministry of Defense said in November last year that the total of Ukrainian
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troops that have now been trained in the UK is fifty two two thousand.
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Well, that is a staggering number and should you know, on that basis
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be regarded as an achievement by the British Armed Forces. But exactly like was
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discussed with Tim Davis, the retired fast jet pilot a couple of weeks ago,
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the knock on effect on Britain's ability to train its own soldiers will be
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enormous. To think that fifty two thousand foreign soldiers have gone through in the
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place of British troops is bound to have a very significant effect. So we'll
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just look at the numbers, the personnel numbers from last month, and we
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see that the picture is not a good one. The strength has decreased by
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three percent, the numbers joining has also decreased quite significantly, But it's the
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retention figure of sixteen thousand, that you know, ensures that we can see
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that we are probably not ready for war. Brian mentioned this just on Monday.
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War Fighting readiness summarized by the House Commons Defense Committee as being the ability
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to deploy and sustain a force that can fight at high intensity in multiple domains
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for a long period of time, and they find that to be in doubt.
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And then they talk about strategic readiness, which they describe as being still
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more of a concept under debate within government than an agreed policy with measurable deliveries.
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And then finally they talk about recruitment and retention, and they give a
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pretty grim picture of the situation, which is that since Capita took over,
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they are only three quarters of the way through the recruitment year, but they've
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recruited only bay half of the people they were targeted to by that time.
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So it doesn't look good at this stage, is the conclusion. And it's
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a far cry from what David Cameron has actually been talking about with regard to
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NATO and the impending conflict. Yes, well, thank you for that,
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Charles, and I think we'd like to talk a little bit more about that.
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An extra but in the meantime, Vanessa, let's bring you on for
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a proper segment here, and I Iran, of course, we're still willing
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to see what Iran is going to do with respect to the if there's going
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to be any retaliation over the bombing of the Irenian embassy in Dabascers. Oh.
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I think there's definitely going to be retaliation. There's been a lot of
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speculation circulating on social media, why is Iran procrastinating, et cetera. But
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I think you know, this is part of its strategy. It doesn't react
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impulsively, just as Russia doesn't, unlike the West, of course, which
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always does act either preemptively or impulsively. And what Iran has been doing and
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of course today is id so it's the act done also. I think that
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also was a factor playing into the decision of when to act. But what
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Iran has been doing is speaking to all of its allies in the region,
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ending of course with a visit in the last few days to Damascus, and
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this was a press conference between the two foreign ministers from Iran, Hossein Emir
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Abdulahyan and doctor Faisal Macdad from Syria. They also discussed the rebuilding of the
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consulate building within the embassy complex. So what did the Iranian foreign minister make
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Very clear, he said that we held important discussions and consultations with President Basha
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La Sad, and we touched upon bilateral relations, important regional and international issues,
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especially those related to Palestine, the terrorist war committed by the Zionist entity
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against the Iranian consulate in Damascus, stressing of course that Syria is going to
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be taking much of the brunt of any counter retaliation by Israel as it's on
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the frontline of the resistance. He also basically reiterated that he holds the allies
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of Israel responsible and that includes of course the United States, the UK,
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and France. And he also had a meeting, i think, on Sunday
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with one of the spokespeople of Antrilla, the coalition government in Yemen that has
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been effectively blockading the Red Sea, and he met with the Alla spokesman and
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head of the negotiating delegation, Mohammed Abdul Salam in Mouscat in Oman, which
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is considered neutral. Now what's interesting is immediately after the attack on the Iranian
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embassy, America actually tried to put forward a diplomatic solution or negotiation offer to
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Yemen. And this is a report by the Hindustani Times which demonstrates as exactly
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what Yemen's response was. So if we can just roll Banassa Vistimurara, I
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mean agel is in akbar Palstini do with Israeli hm M So Yemen, who
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effectively achieved probably the fastest victory against the US coalition in history, is not
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bending and is basically saying it will continue to defend Palasti onions until the Israeli
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genocidal campaign is stopped. Hassan Nasraula, the Secretary General of Hezbolla, said
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that Iran will definitely respond to the terrorist attack in Damascus. He also made
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the point that the Islamic Republic is deliberately exhausting Israel, forcing it to mobilize
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all of its resources and not knowing when, where and how the Iranians will
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strike. Now, this is an interesting point because if we look at of
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course the BBC is channeling Israeli bravado. Israel can handle any threat from Iran,
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says military chief, and the BBC, very much like the British government,
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did not condemn the Israeli aggression against Iran inside Damascus, and yet there
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are multiple reports stating that Israeli supermarkets blooded as terrified citizens empty shelves in fear
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of Iran attack. Now, from a perspective of sort of various discussions here,
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it's considered that what Iran will do potentially is to target the Israeli occupied
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Jolan territories. It will only target Israeli military basis. It's not going to
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try and hit embassies as has much been reported in Western media, particularly because
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it's not going to jeopardize civilian life as Israel has done. And at the
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same time, it is considered, after discussions with its various allies in the
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region, there will be collaborative attacks by those resistance actions potentially against US bass
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in the region. This is only speculation. Nobody can actually say exactly what
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Iran is going to do, but in my opinion, it's going to be
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coming relatively soon, I would say, in the next week. Yes,
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They say where she says there is no simple explanation for the increase in
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diverse identity. Well, I'm going to question that a little bit later on,
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people with gender incongruence found that no single guideline could be applied in its entirety
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to the NHS in England. They also said that while a considerable amount of
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research has been public in this field, systematic evidence reviews demonstrated poor quality of
31:03
the published studies. In other words, they're going ahead with treatment despite the
31:07
lack of evidence. You may see parallels with COVID here, but anyway.
31:11
It goes on to say the rationale for early puberty suppression remains unclear, with
31:17
weak evidence regarding the impact in gender dysphoria, mental or psychological health. The
31:22
effect on cognitive and psychosexual development remains unknown. Again, similar to COVID,
31:27
let's just go ahead with the policy. Let's not worry about what the effect
31:30
of jobs or the effect of lockdowns might be on people. The use of
31:37
masculinizing or feminizing hormones in those under the age of eighteen also presents many unknowns,
31:41
despite their long standing use in the adult transgender population. That's what they
31:48
were saying. So the next thing is clinicians are unable to determine with any
31:52
certainty which children and young people will go on to have an enduring trans identity.
31:57
And that of course comes back to the point that I was making also
32:00
on Friday with the scientific paper showing that in fact, most the vast majority
32:07
of youngsters lose this uncertainty about their gender as they grow up. But anyway,
32:14
coming back to this issue of there is no simple explanation for the increase
32:17
in the numbers of predominantly young people and young adults who are trans or gender
32:22
diverse identity, I would say there is a very simple explanation for this,
32:27
and it derives from the policy which is being pushed from the World Health Organization
32:32
and national government. So let's bring the world World Health Organization on screen first.
32:38
And of course the World Health Organization is promoting the idea of gender affirming
32:44
care and this is being promoted in schools through the relationships and sexual health education
32:50
classes. And of course these classes, although they're guided by a so called
32:54
national curriculum, what's actually taught in them is left up to the schools,
33:00
and quite often the schools in the UK at least don't feel equipped to deal
33:05
with these issues themselves, so they bring third parties into the schools to run
33:09
this training, and it might be organizations like Mermaids for example. No Mermaids
33:15
is currently under investigation by the Charities Commission. That investigation has been running for
33:20
well over a year now. But I just wanted to highlight, just as
33:22
a throwaway comment here, the choice of colors on their website, because this
33:28
looks to me like a common purpose based organization, and I would suggest that
33:34
a lot of this the push for this ideology is coming from those kinds of
33:38
circles, so the World Health Organization, common purpose derived NGOs and charities,
33:45
and also the government and not just the domestic government either, because there's a
33:50
press release from the Foreign Come With and Development Office Promoting and Protecting the Rights
33:54
of LGPT plus People Program Summary twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three. This
33:59
was in March twenty three. And let's just look at their objectives. The
34:04
UK is a champion for the human rights of LGBT plus people around the world.
34:08
We support and advocate for the rights of all people, irrespective of their
34:12
sexual orientation or gender identity, to live with dignity, free from prejudice,
34:16
violence or discrimination. They say, our objectives are to improve the lives of
34:22
help GBT plus people through first of all, improving institutional protection against discrimination,
34:28
including through removing or amending discriminatory laws, policies and practices. Remember this is
34:32
Foreign Office policy. This is what they're pushing for in other countries, never
34:37
mind what's going on in the UK. Also reducing hit speech, violence or
34:42
harassment based on discrimination. But the key one is the last one, which
34:45
is all about improving access to services and in other words, they want to
34:51
replicate the types of services that we've seen being applied to children in the UK
34:55
in other countries as well. And just to end this segment before to get
35:00
a see if either of our other contributors want to comment on this, I
35:05
just want to show an example of how this is not just a UK thing,
35:08
this is international And so this is doctor Phil as he's known, doctor
35:14
Phil McGraw in the United States talking about this. States across the country have
35:21
passed laws banning gender affirming care on miners. Our next guest is a queer
35:25
woman who is married to a trans man. When Jamie Reid worked as a
35:30
caseworker at the transgender Center at Saint Louis Children's Hospital. She thought she was
35:36
saving trans kids' lives, but she claims what she witnessed there was so morally
35:42
and medically appalling that she had no choice but to expose what was really going
35:47
on. I was working in a pediatric gender center for four and a half
35:52
years, primarily responsible for patient intakes. The center followed this massive that transition
36:00
would solve everything, that it would solve a child's mental health problems. There
36:06
were very few written protocols or guidelines. One of the providers even said we
36:12
were flying the plane as we built it. So since that is also recognized
36:17
in this report, that seems to be a policy that's international. Vanessa,
36:22
very briefly, have you got any thoughts on this? No, I mean
36:27
it's just horrifying. I mean that comment flying the plane while you're still building
36:34
it. I think that applies to so much of the policy that is coming
36:37
through in the worst and that is going to have a devastating effect in the
36:43
future upon all generations, from elderly to future generations. Yes, indeed,
36:52
Charles, what are your thoughts? Well, many, I think, and
37:00
not good ones. But it shows that you know propaganda and indoctrination works.
37:07
You know that this stuff has been in the public heights in schools. So
37:10
to suggest that the outset that doesn't seem to be clear why there's been an
37:15
uptake or an increased interest in it is, I think that that's disingenuous.
37:20
And I think also the targeting the policy allows the those that are in the
37:25
business of actually assisting people to either make transitions, whether chemically or surgically,
37:34
it fails to scrutinize them. You know, questions particularly of the National Health
37:38
Service and of all those other practitioners who are who are doing this stuff,
37:44
that they deserve far far more attention than they're than they're getting. I think,
37:50
yes, okay, well let's move on to the issue of human rights
37:52
then yeah, certainly. Now not an enormous leap in a way from gener
38:00
but climate and the European Court of Human Rights or for Human Rights had a
38:05
ruling yesterday, the Grand Chamber ruling on climate change cases. Now you might
38:09
be wondering what on earth this has to do with us or with anything else,
38:13
but the Convention on Human Rights does not enshrine any right to a health
38:17
the environment. As such, the European Court of Human Rights has been called
38:21
upon to develop its case law in environmental matters on account of the fact that
38:25
the exercise of certain Convention rights may be undermined by the existence of harm to
38:30
the environment and exposure to environmental risks. So I'll explain exactly what this is
38:37
about. Effectively, a group of elderly Swiss ladies have complained that their government
38:45
was not doing enough for them where it was concerned concerning climate change or global
38:50
warming, saying that they were concerned about the consequences of global warming on their
38:54
living conditions and health. They consider that the Swiss authorities are not taking sufficient
39:00
action despite their duties under the Convention to mitigate the effects of climate change,
39:06
and the Court sorry, this is the group and those are the ladies involved,
39:09
or at least there must be within that gaggle. The Grand Chamber held
39:15
by majority that there'd been a violation of Article eight, the Right to respect
39:19
for private and family life of the Convention. The Court found, in particular
39:23
the Article eight of the Convention encompasses a right to effective protection by the state
39:29
authorities from the serious adverse effects of climate change on live's health, well being
39:36
and quality of life. So the astonishing thing about this is it sees human
39:40
rights being wielded, and in particular Article eight the right to a private family
39:45
life as actually demanding more state intervention and more state interference. But nonetheless,
39:53
this is significant for the United Kingdom because of course, whilst we are outside
39:59
of the European news Union, we are still very much obliged by the conventions
40:04
under our membership of the Council of Europe, which means that we have certified
40:09
and ratified the treaty. And therefore, how does that play out here and
40:15
what's the relevance or indeed why does climate change in particular provoke sort of interest
40:20
in other areas? And so we see that there is been reported from February
40:25
by Client Earth the High Court is running another case against the government about an
40:30
inadequate climate action plan. Again human rights being cited. But what I want
40:36
to draw your attention to is the relationship doe in the Human Rights Act nineteen
40:38
ninety eight and the Equality Act twenty ten. And we have here aslide from
40:44
the Citizens' Advice talking about protected characteristics and discrimination. Now this is relevant because
40:50
it comes onto the idea of philosophical beliefs and it states that you cannot be
40:54
discriminated against for your philosophical belief. So then go through what these are.
41:00
You must genuinely hold the belief. It's moral, ethical, person or philosophical,
41:04
and I've underlined not an opinion based on facts. And then we have
41:07
its important aspect of human life and behavior. It's serious and important. So
41:10
I think you get the idea, but then it's worthy of respect in a
41:14
democratic society in combatible with human dignity. They go on to say that some
41:20
things courts have decided a philosophical beliefs include belief in climate change, so I
41:24
refer back to it being opinion and not based on fact, which is very
41:30
crucial in this type of legislation. They also say that the courts have decided
41:35
philosophical beliefs cannot be believing the Holocaust didn't happen, or being a member of
41:38
a political party. This is further reinforced by the Equality and Human Rights Commission,
41:44
where they effectively go the same material what justifies a philosophical belief the equality
41:50
access A philosophical belief must be genuinely held and more than an opinion, And
41:57
the example they give leern behold an employer, you believe strongly in man made
42:00
climate change and feels that they have a duty to live their life in a
42:05
way which limits their impact on the earth to help save it for future generations.
42:09
This would be classed as a belief and protected under the Equality Act.
42:15
And again another example, again talking about being worthy of respect in democratic society,
42:20
an employee believes that white people are a superior race to others and tells
42:22
their colleagues, so this would not be classed as a belief protected under the
42:27
Equality Act. So whilst it seems quite clear that there are sort of in
42:32
effect double standards, the significant thing is first of all, this climate change
42:37
ruling for further state intervention under a human rights violation means that in effect the
42:44
floodgates are open. But what should be clung to is the idea that a
42:47
philosophical belief can also create case law where it concerns all of this material.
42:53
So it'd be very interesting to see how this plays out, and the hope
42:58
obviously will be that there'll be a signal difant number of legal challenges on the
43:01
basis of opinions held equally strongly of the opposing view. Yes, thank you,
43:08
Charles, Thank you for that night. Let's come back to the Middle
43:12
East night, Vanessa, And well, are we using AI to target people?
43:19
Absolutely? So, if you remember we reported on the Gospel AI system,
43:24
now we have a report released by the same media outlet that outed the
43:30
Gospel system, a system called Lavender, the AI machine directing Israel's bombings free
43:37
in Brasa. So what does it actually entail if we have a look at
43:43
the report in A book in twenty twenty one titled The Human Machine Team,
43:47
How to Create Synergy between human and Artificial Intelligence that will Revolutionize our World was
43:54
released in English under the pen name Brigadier General Ys. The author a man
44:00
who was confirmed to be the current commander of the elite Israeli Intelligent Unit eight
44:07
two hundred. And people should remember that we have demonstrated how Unit eight two
44:12
hundred not only developed the tech sector and startup in Israel, but is also
44:19
embedded in our own tech sector and in various other sectors, including development of
44:25
tech within the health sector for example. So I just want to run a
44:30
video by the journalist that actually wrote this article, Yuval Abraham, as he
44:36
explains how the system actually works to massacre more Palestinians in Gaza. So if
44:42
we can just roll that and then there is an AI based system to create
44:47
human targets to mark them. So what did at its peak? According to
44:52
sources we've used it, it managed to mark thirty seven thousand Palestinians in Gaza
44:59
aspect acted low level Hamas orgy had militants. Now, the way it works
45:06
is for people who don't know, like, the machine scanned most of the
45:09
population in Gaza, collecting surveilling information and it gave each individual a rating between
45:16
one to one hundred based on how likely the machine thought that individual belonged to
45:21
a military link. It has a list of indicative features, which are really
45:25
small signs that could be like somebody is in a WhatsApp group with the militant,
45:30
or somebody that replaces phones all the time that raise or lower your rating.
45:35
Now, sources said, and this is very very important that this machine,
45:38
when they were using it, the IDF knew that in approximately ten percent
45:43
of the cases it was making what was regarded as errors. So it was
45:46
marking people who were complete civilians or had a very loose connection to Hamas.
45:52
Is an automatic system that looks for these targets when they enter their family houses.
45:59
So it scans thousands of people that were marked by the vendor by the
46:02
AI machine, and it alerts the intelligence officers the moments they entered their house,
46:07
and the Israeli military, according to numerous sources, carried out a policy
46:14
of bombing these people using unguided missiles when they were in the most civilian spaces,
46:19
when they were inside family houses. Now, basically this was run in
46:28
the Guardian Top is Raeli spy chiefs so U and eight two hundred exposerses through
46:31
identity in Online Security Lapse, which was related to his book. But let's
46:37
see how he described the system. AI is used to create potential military targets
46:45
can be more efficient and avoid bottlenecks created by intelligence human beings. In other
46:51
words, there's a human bottleneck from both locating the new targets and decision making
46:54
to approve the targets. There is also the bottleneck of how to process a
47:00
great amount of data. Then there's the bottleneck of connecting the intelligence to the
47:05
fire. He adds a team consisting of machines and investigators can blast the bottleneck
47:10
wide open. But generally, in my opinion, Mike Can, I'd be
47:15
interested in yours. This suggests as other people have said on social media,
47:21
Gilad Atzman saying that basically he considers that Israel is preparing for the Nuremberg trials.
47:27
Louis all Day, who's a historian and an expert on Palestinian history,
47:32
he says the aipiece is suspicious not only because of that publication's track record and
47:39
as it couldn't have been published without Israeli military sign off, but because claiming
47:44
targeting is happening with no human input seems like an obvious attempt to avoid accountability.
47:52
Now I would agree with that. I think there's two things here.
47:54
One is the future of AI. Are we going to start to see drones
48:00
being controlled by AI which has to have the algorithm input by a human being,
48:06
right? But what it will eventually do is to provide this lack of
48:10
accountability for the human participation in whatever crimes or atrocities are being committed. Yeah,
48:21
I mean, I think we can't allow that, because that is how
48:23
it seems to me. I think we can't allow that danger of removing accountability
48:30
to hold. And so if they're going to use our AI, which I
48:35
think we should all be opposing and opposing extremely strongly. Then whoever it makes
48:39
a decision to deploy that AI system needs to be the person that's ultimately accountable
48:45
for it. There should be no attempt to get away from this, Charles,
48:49
let's come back to you and the question of protest in the UK.
48:57
Thanks mat Yes, and an announcement by the Home Office that they have produce
49:00
new measures for police and courts to deal with what they're calling serious disruption and
49:06
clamping down on that. A tweet here critically showing that new powers will prevent
49:10
serious disruptions at protests before it occurs. So is it pre crime that we're
49:17
dealing with? This comes from the Public Order Act of last year twenty twenty
49:22
three, within which there was provision for what called serious disruption prevention orders,
49:27
which to be doled out by court either on conviction or in other circumstances.
49:35
So we'll just run through some of the clauses here, and they're both to
49:39
prevent a person from committing a protest related offense or to prevent activities related to
49:46
protests that will result in or are likely to result in serious disruption. A
49:52
note that the threshold is very low to two or more individuals. Of course,
49:58
it goes on to suggests that it's to prevent from causing or contributing the
50:02
commission by any other person or carrying out by any other person. Again,
50:07
using the phrase are likely to result in so broad tentacles and a low threshold.
50:14
But particularly the order itself may require the person to do anything described in
50:19
the order, or to prohibit them from doing anything described in the order.
50:22
Just have a sample of what the not doing things are. The prohibitions so
50:28
being or entering a particular place or area, or entering particular place between particular
50:31
times, and the same thing on any day, being with particular persons,
50:37
participating in particular activities, having particular articles. So note that it's completely non
50:43
specific, and in effect it will enable orders to be made and actions to
50:47
be taken that in effects stop people from doing absolutely anything. And the most
50:52
important thing to point out is that the in effect, in order to put
50:59
in an order that relates to a criminal activity which might perhaps be serious disruption,
51:06
the threshold has been changed to civil. So all this is being done
51:09
on the balance of probabilities, which means that people who have no previous history
51:15
of serious disruption may still fall foul of this and The other thing to point
51:21
out, of course, is that once this is in place, the surveillance
51:23
and monitoring requirement is likely to be enormous, and therefore it's a huge intrusion
51:30
into the private lives of people who may actually not have caused any of the
51:34
activities that Home Office is saying they want to stop because where's it come from?
51:37
Or we see there's been very high profile activism which has created the idea
51:44
that all protests in some way is troublesome and disruptive. So we'll just have
51:49
a look at a couple of those now, and the most notable ones,
51:51
of course being just stop oil. We always follow the money, so where
51:54
is their money coming from? They say that it's coming from the Climate Emergency
51:58
Fund, So we have a look here talking about brave activists and people waking
52:02
up to the climate emergency. But of course behind this is are people like
52:07
Eileen Getty and Rory Kennedy leading a new climate fund, so effectively people with
52:12
very very deep pockets, the consequences of which are that any form of dissent
52:16
and protest can effect be lumped in with this and crushed. More from the
52:22
Guessy Association Protecting Our world extinction rebellion being another very high profile example. And
52:27
again on their funding thing, they talk about major donors, well, who
52:30
exactly would they be referring to. One of the more well known ones is
52:35
Christopher Hone, who's the chief executive and founder of TCI Fund Management, a
52:39
hedge fund, And of course it's worth pointing out that previously the Prime Minister
52:45
Richie Sunak worked with and for Hone in this environment. So I think the
52:52
point to be made here is that this is it looks very much like a
52:58
completely control piece of legislation through very high profile activities that have given cause to
53:06
not only the offenses listed in the Public Order at twenty twenty three, but
53:09
also the intimation that protest is in effect on the way out and should be
53:15
clamped down upon before it's even happened. Yes, and Charles just I didn't
53:21
put the graphic in here. What we need to always keep in mind that
53:24
piece of legislation or a particular agenda shouldn't be seen as a single item on
53:30
its own. It has to be seen in the context of the other legislation
53:32
that we've seen being put in place over the last three, four or five
53:35
years, which is all designed. I mean, we've now got multiple legislation
53:38
designed to restrict the ability to protest, We've got multiple legislation designed to restrict
53:45
the ability to express ourselves online. And you know, we're seeing pretty the
53:52
dictatorial policies being implemented in the formal legislation here. We are, absolutely,
54:00
we are. And I think the other thing that's worth noting, of course,
54:02
is this is, in fact the inversion and the moving away from intent
54:07
towards a supposed victim being able to describe what has happened to them. And
54:14
that's that, in effect, is what is taken by the authorities as having
54:17
happened. And of course that that's a that's a move away from what one
54:22
might call traditional legislation, where it's very important to prove the intent that somebody
54:27
had when undertaking any of these activities. But yeah, and as you say,
54:30
you know, the Criminal Justice Bill is absolutely one to watch out for
54:34
with all the things that it's going to be bringing in, you know,
54:36
on related related subjects. Yes, indeed, Okay, thank you, Charles.
54:40
Back to you, Vanessa, and well, an interesting article in the
54:44
Dailymail. Yes, interesting article. I think we're seeing, you know,
54:49
the inevitable witch hunt for NP George Galloway starting this is by Abelao described as
54:58
their security respondent. Outrageous. Newly elected MP George Galloway interviews extremists urging people
55:06
to join up with terrorists fighting Israel on Iranian propaganda channel. So the left
55:13
wing firebrand is hosting a new press TV show and he interviewed Marda Osman,
55:19
who we know, of course, might you've interviewed her very dear friend of
55:22
mine, Dr Mardua Osmond, PhD. And the claim was that she was
55:29
effectively recruiting people to Hesblah, which is a prescribed terrorist organization despite being a
55:37
political party in Lubanon, prescribed in the UK since twenty nineteen. So in
55:44
the article itself he does actually ask Galloway for comments. A spokesman for the
55:51
Community Security Trust, which is known to be a Zionist for lobbying operation inside
55:57
the UK which monitors anti Semitic attacks, Dr Osmond is encouraging British citizens to
56:02
go and fight in sport of Hezbollah. That alone should be a matter for
56:07
the police, Galloway told The Mail on Sunday. Dr Osman was addressing Arabs
56:12
in the Arab world, not British people. It's also interesting that only Galloway
56:16
was asked for a comment. Dr Mardwa Osmond was not contacted until now for
56:22
any comment. Lysia Kins, who we mentioned last week, who basically highlighted
56:27
the fact that the British government was not revealing the fact that legal advisers had
56:35
informed them that Israel is breaking international law. She said it's unacceptable for an
56:39
MP to host a show on the Iranian regime's propaganda arm. PressTV had its
56:45
license revoked by Offcon. For an MP to sit by in silence as someone
56:49
recruits for a terrorist group is truly unforgivable. She must have forgotten that it
56:53
can be argued that MI six recruited for Al Qaeda inside Syria, but she
57:00
didn't mention that. David Miller retorted to Alicia Kinns, saying that she's back
57:05
on the day job, pushing anti Iran propaganda for MI six, more for
57:09
those who fell for her crocodile tears for Palestinians. What he actually claims is
57:15
that Kens merely represents the sector of the security state which she's unfettered. Revisionist
57:22
Zionism as a threat to the status quo of gradual rather than sudden genocide of
57:28
the Palestinians. So here she is course correcting and reminding her superiors. She's
57:32
still a bloodbirth the imperialist who loathes Muslim sovereignty in the Muslim world. So
57:39
I just wanted to play a section of mild Word's response to the Daily Mail.
57:45
You can find it on her telegram channel if you want to see the
57:50
whole of her response. So here's the section this video, I will explain
57:55
each part of this article and talk more about what the Daily Mail was actually
58:00
promoting not very long ago. As you see here, I did say that
58:06
in Lemanon there is the resistance, the Mukaalma, and there's the Saraya Mukaalma,
58:09
the resistance brigades, where if you really believe in the resistance as a
58:15
tool to liberate Palestine and help the natives in Palestine against this gruesome genocidal war
58:21
against them, you can take part in that. And I don't think that
58:24
is telling anyone to join any terrorist group, because, for one, I'm
58:29
a native in the region of what you call the Middle East when I call
58:32
West Asia, and we are defending ourselves against colonial settlers and colonial entities who
58:38
are actively being armed and funded by the UK and the United States of America
58:43
and u K citizens to join our resistance right here against the Zionist entity.
58:46
You are happy with our resistance and the effort it has been exerting to support
58:51
our brothers and sisters in Palestine. We are also happy with all the resistance
58:54
that is coming from Syria, from Iraq, from Yemen, and from Palestine
58:58
itself. We do support the resistance against any resistance in the world against aggressors,
59:02
occupiers and colonial settlers. In the end, I'd like to thank the
59:07
Daily Mail for using this very cute photo of me. I absolutely love it.
59:12
You can spew all the pro genocide propaganda that you want, you can
59:15
attempt to smear our names, because we fight for the people who are currently
59:21
under genocide. This will not stop us. We will remain stepfast and Vanessa,
59:27
you were talking about six recruiting for al Qaeda and Syria, But of
59:30
course the other name that we should mention here is Liz Truss. Yeah.
59:37
Absolutely, yeah, Okay, well, look, thank you for that.
59:39
No, we'll just end very quickly. I just want to highlight an article
59:45
in the Daily Star World dangerously close to the next pandemic with deadly virus one
59:50
hundred times worse than COVID, more propaganda pushing the H one N one virus,
59:57
and well, what can we say about that? They decided to conflate
1:00:01
the thing with a piece of video from Matt Hancock being what they describe is
1:00:07
grilled on the pandemic by campmtz on I'm a celebrity. Get me out of
1:00:09
here. I mean, it's just incredible that they have had the goal to
1:00:13
publish this article. But I just want to end with this thought. And
1:00:16
I'm going to get some thoughts from Vanessa about this, because I think she'll
1:00:20
agree with this, which is doing the ryans on social media at the moment.
1:00:23
I think I agree with this. We're not from the left or the
1:00:27
right. We're from the bottom and we're coming for those on top. I
1:00:30
think that sums things up fairly well. And we'll leave you with that thought
1:00:35
for now. So I'm going to say thank you very much to everybody who's
1:00:39
watch today. Thank you to Vanessa and Charles for your input. We'll be
1:00:44
back in a couple of minutes with a couple of special guests for UK column
1:00:47
News Extra. We'll see you then if you're a UK column member otherwise,
1:00:52
don't forget the interview at one pm tomorrow and then we'll be back for the
1:00:54
news at one pm on Friday. See you then bye bye at him ACT and the