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- 0:01Speaker 1: College basketball fans, Welcome back to the College Ball Show.
- 0:05Speaker 2: He's Marshall, I'm Chris, and we're here.
- 0:08Speaker 1: To jump smack dad in the middle of the conference
- 0:12Speaker 1: races for college basketball. Obviously you've been with the show
- 0:17Speaker 1: since late August, the College Ball Show for college football.
- 0:20Speaker 1: We wrapped it up life gotten the way last Tuesday
- 0:26Speaker 1: and Wednesday, so we weren't able to do a show,
- 0:28Speaker 1: and we figured, you know, once we're that far away
- 0:32Speaker 1: from it, let's just, you know, resume our normal Monday shows.
- 0:38Speaker 1: So we are here to discuss college basketball now maybe
- 0:42Speaker 1: all the way to the national Championship. And for those
- 0:45Speaker 1: who stick with us the whole time, you know what
- 0:49Speaker 1: a week two weeks later, the NBA Playoffs kick it,
- 0:53Speaker 1: so we call it the NBA Playoffs Panter Podcast. Stay
- 0:57Speaker 1: with us all the way through June. Okay, so the
- 1:03Speaker 1: College Ball Show. We'll start, you know, by recapping very
- 1:07Speaker 1: usual what happened not just this weekend but in the
- 1:10Speaker 1: last couple of days.
- 1:12Speaker 2: And then since this, like I mentioned.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Is our first show of the year for college basketball,
- 1:18Speaker 1: we'll kind of just catch up with some of.
- 1:20Speaker 3: The the top tier teams, kind of give our thoughts
- 1:26Speaker 3: on that and then we'll do our conference whip around
- 1:29Speaker 3: where we go, you.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Know, from conference to conference and check.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Out where the races are and how it pertains to
- 1:35Speaker 1: the upcoming schedule, which we will do the preview for
- 1:39Speaker 1: this week and the weekend.
- 1:41Speaker 2: We get some big games coming.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Up, and right now it does appear that the Big
- 1:45Speaker 1: twelve is getting challenge. It's getting huge, major challenge by
- 1:53Speaker 1: the SEC. You know, we've known, hands down, the Big
- 1:56Speaker 1: twelve has been phenomenal for many years. Really these last
- 2:00Speaker 1: few have been phenomenal. And now the SEC, I guess
- 2:04Speaker 1: they're a little you know, pissed off that they haven't
- 2:07Speaker 1: won a chip in a couple of years for football.
- 2:09Speaker 2: They're coming back with full vengeance.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I think ten in the new ap top twenty five
- 2:15Speaker 1: to ten reside in the SEC.
- 2:19Speaker 2: So we're gonna get right to it.
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- 3:25Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and bring in my co
- 3:28Speaker 1: host Marshall kind of catch up, you know, before we
- 3:31Speaker 1: get on to.
- 3:33Speaker 2: College basketball.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Man, we wrapped up our first you know season with
- 3:40Speaker 1: the extended playoffs. We were just talking about how they'll
- 3:43Speaker 1: probably tweak not going into the second round of the
- 3:49Speaker 1: NFL having all that kind of soak up a lot
- 3:52Speaker 1: of the attention. But it was a fun ride in
- 3:56Speaker 1: each divis or, Each each round got better and better
- 4:01Speaker 1: and better. And I credit Notre Dame for coming back
- 4:06Speaker 1: in that game because for a while there. You can
- 4:09Speaker 1: actually tell Marshall by the rating, the television rating. A
- 4:13Speaker 1: lot of people thought, oh it's over, you know, once
- 4:16Speaker 1: another or once ohiose they got way up. A lot
- 4:19Speaker 1: of people just didn't come back to the game. But
- 4:23Speaker 1: a fun season, no doubt. It's kind of hard to believe.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Here we are late January twenty twenty five, when it
- 4:31Speaker 1: feels like just yesterday, late August we started the run
- 4:36Speaker 1: towards the champion man and now here we are right
- 4:38Speaker 1: in college basketball season.
- 4:41Speaker 4: Yeah, with this, with this different schedule, Chris, it definitely
- 4:46Speaker 4: does feel a little bit different.
- 4:47Speaker 2: I'm used to.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Early started our basketball podcast around the time before conference
- 4:53Speaker 4: play starts in basketball, so it's a little bit later.
- 4:55Speaker 4: But that's okay. I'm not complaining. We'll be just fine.
- 4:59Speaker 4: Al Yeah, we had a a good year of college football. Actually,
- 5:04Speaker 4: I would say great year. The regular season is surest phenomenal,
- 5:06Speaker 4: and I do think the playoffs was, like I would
- 5:10Speaker 4: give it probably like a B for a letter grade, Like,
- 5:12Speaker 4: was it phenomenal?
- 5:13Speaker 1: No.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Was there quite a few blowouts, yes, But overall I
- 5:16Speaker 4: think we had it was it was a good playoffs.
- 5:18Speaker 4: I heard some people saying that they thought that the
- 5:21Speaker 4: Texas ASU gave was probably the game of the playoffs
- 5:23Speaker 4: that I would probably agree that was up there. But
- 5:26Speaker 4: even Notre Dame game was really good, too good for
- 5:31Speaker 4: you could yeah you could argue that as well. So
- 5:32Speaker 4: I really do think it was a good tournament. You
- 5:34Speaker 4: got to see NOE of the big guys opted out,
- 5:38Speaker 4: like there's no stars like that, I'll pass, you know.
- 5:41Speaker 4: So you got to see the so a lot of
- 5:43Speaker 4: few TRAFL guys playing on Sunday's play and it was
- 5:47Speaker 4: just it was a good tournament. Obviously, the SEC didn't win.
- 5:51Speaker 4: I don't think that would be a regular thing. I
- 5:53Speaker 4: would expect the SEC team to win it next year possibly,
- 5:55Speaker 4: but yeah, I just thought it was a fun tournament.
- 5:57Speaker 4: It was good. You might figure out the seeding parts
- 5:59Speaker 4: a little little bit later, but even so, like we're
- 6:03Speaker 4: I can't wait for next year. And again I think
- 6:05Speaker 4: with the cool thing is I've said last few podcast
- 6:08Speaker 4: is is I really think that we could have four
- 6:11Speaker 4: or five new teams next year, and I think that's
- 6:13Speaker 4: what's gonna make that tournament more fun. Obviously, compare tournament
- 6:17Speaker 4: for tournament, nothing matches March Madness. But again, what that
- 6:21Speaker 4: says because you get unknown's and you get teams that's
- 6:24Speaker 4: surprising the tournament, and I think college football is going
- 6:26Speaker 4: to have that. It's only gonna be better.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:29Speaker 4: I think if the regular if the if the next
- 6:32Speaker 4: month of college basketball before we get into March is
- 6:37Speaker 4: they were close to the regular season we had for
- 6:38Speaker 4: college football. We're in for a.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Hell of a college basketball season.
- 6:41Speaker 4: We really did get spoiled for college basketball, and I
- 6:44Speaker 4: like how it ended, and I'll get to go to
- 6:46Speaker 4: another great sport which is off to a good start
- 6:48Speaker 4: as well, and it makes this time to you're fun
- 6:50Speaker 4: for us, man, But yeah, hey, we'll be we'll be
- 6:52Speaker 4: talking about our brackets like six weeks, which is kind
- 6:55Speaker 4: of crazy to think about.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, it really is, man, it really is. It
- 7:01Speaker 1: was a great year though that November I can't remember
- 7:05Speaker 1: that many games in that five week stretch counting that much.
- 7:11Speaker 1: It was just ridiculous. And I think people kind of
- 7:14Speaker 1: forgot about that. A lot of complaining about certain things
- 7:19Speaker 1: when it comes to it, and I get it to
- 7:21Speaker 1: an extent, but let's not forget how great that, right.
- 7:24Speaker 2: I mean, in the.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Last twenty years, there's only what seven that was about
- 7:29Speaker 1: the only one we could come up with where it
- 7:30Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that was that was about the best
- 7:34Speaker 1: regular season. And it will be interesting to see. I
- 7:37Speaker 1: don't know if there's gonna be half the field six
- 7:39Speaker 1: out of twelve, but I know what you're saying as
- 7:44Speaker 1: far as a new team pop in Indiana is probably
- 7:47Speaker 1: gonna come back. Who else you know, will Iowa or
- 7:50Speaker 1: somebody that will Michigan improve or you know that type
- 7:54Speaker 1: of thing, And yeah, I mean it's gonna be interesting.
- 7:57Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see, you know, old miss if
- 8:00Speaker 1: they can, you know, maybe they'll be the team that
- 8:03Speaker 1: jumps in there. But we're gonna get off college football now,
- 8:07Speaker 1: like you had to get one more in there. Hey,
- 8:14Speaker 1: is that quarterback that you love coming back?
- 8:17Speaker 4: Let's talk about college basketball.
- 8:19Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Okay, so uh all right man,
- 8:26Speaker 1: I'm all smiles over here. All right, So just real
- 8:29Speaker 1: quick from last week Tuesday night, you know, Mississippi State
- 8:35Speaker 1: and Tennessee. That was a pretty damn good game. Tennessee
- 8:37Speaker 1: stretched out on them, Marquette got a nice road win.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Ohio State beat Perdue at Purdue seventy three seventy I
- 8:46Speaker 1: thought that was a really big winkla, good old fashioned Klea.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Ucla upset Wisconsin eighty five eighty three. Anytime Wisconsin loses
- 8:55Speaker 1: in anything, I think that's a good good win. Butler
- 9:01Speaker 1: in overtime, that was a pretty interesting game there. Missoo's
- 9:05Speaker 1: looking pretty good this year. They got beat by Texas
- 9:09Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean that night was a pretty eventful night.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Even West Virginia, who had newly been ranked, got beat
- 9:16Speaker 1: by Arizona State.
- 9:17Speaker 2: They got beat at home, which was kind of a
- 9:19Speaker 2: surprise there.
- 9:22Speaker 1: You had on Wednesday, you had Texas A and m
- 9:25Speaker 1: sneaking by Old Miss sixty three to sixty two. That
- 9:30Speaker 1: Savior Saint John's game was really good. Uh, Xavier ended up,
- 9:33Speaker 1: you know, taking care of business.
- 9:36Speaker 4: In overtime.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Florida, who seems to be back this year, previously ranked
- 9:42Speaker 1: South Carolina, they beat them by a point. That was
- 9:45Speaker 1: a pretty big, uh you know, pretty big thing there. Maryland,
- 9:50Speaker 1: out of nowhere on Thursday just whooped Illinois ninety one
- 9:54Speaker 1: to seventy. I know they had someone injured there on
- 9:58Speaker 1: that Wichno State Memphis game was the good big surprise
- 10:01Speaker 1: here on Friday night, Perdue, not that they won, but
- 10:07Speaker 1: ninety one, the sixty four that was that was pretty
- 10:11Speaker 1: crazy as far as the week before we head into
- 10:14Speaker 1: Auburn getting a big win over Tennessee at home, you know,
- 10:18Speaker 1: from the weekend.
- 10:20Speaker 4: Yeah, that that really was a good handful of days
- 10:23Speaker 4: that you spoke of. From Tuesday the last Friday. Obviously,
- 10:28Speaker 4: you'll see on Tuesday Alabama scored one hundred and three points.
- 10:32Speaker 4: They lead the nation end points. So if you were
- 10:35Speaker 4: someone who enjoyed the Alabama didn't win a title this year,
- 10:40Speaker 4: didn't make collefortball playoff their football, their basketball team is
- 10:43Speaker 4: gonna be very good this year. So if you're a
- 10:45Speaker 4: role ted hater, you're gonna have to work hunder hating
- 10:48Speaker 4: because their team is good. Not say they're gonna win
- 10:50Speaker 4: a title this year, but they'll definitely be a team
- 10:53Speaker 4: that could be considered to fight for it with the
- 10:56Speaker 4: SEC having the year that they're having and uh as
- 11:01Speaker 4: usual Marquette. Actually, I think every damn year Chris Dow
- 11:05Speaker 4: this podcast, they're in the top ten to top fifteen,
- 11:07Speaker 4: Like every year, they're just there and just nothing changes. Now,
- 11:13Speaker 4: they haven't made a deep tournament run with Shaka, but
- 11:16Speaker 4: they've been there. And I'm just gonna say it now,
- 11:19Speaker 4: and I'll say it, but I'm not gonna make any promises.
- 11:21Speaker 4: So every year I always kind of adopt a team.
- 11:23Speaker 4: I fell in love early with West Virginia this year.
- 11:27Speaker 4: I love that Javon Small, one of their guards. They
- 11:29Speaker 4: had a fun where it was like it was the
- 11:30Speaker 4: bad Boys bowlers like Atlanta's tournament. They want me some money.
- 11:33Speaker 4: I'm all in on West Virginia this year. But every
- 11:37Speaker 4: freaking time, for like the past four years, I adopt
- 11:40Speaker 4: a team and I say, hey, they're gonna make it
- 11:42Speaker 4: to the Sweet sixteen. Every year they either play like
- 11:45Speaker 4: a team I love, or that a guy gets hurt,
- 11:48Speaker 4: or they go on a nose that even March. So
- 11:49Speaker 4: I'm not doing that, Chris. But so West Virginia is
- 11:53Speaker 4: my adopted team, but I'm not making any March Madness promises.
- 11:57Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to under verse the jinks or whatever.
- 12:01Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna say West Virginia is my adopted team.
- 12:04Speaker 4: Caroline's as number one, So go West Virginia, But no
- 12:07Speaker 4: March Madness guarantees because they always.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Kicked me right in the apps.
- 12:11Speaker 1: So and now, are you ready to do your Final
- 12:14Speaker 1: four already?
- 12:15Speaker 2: Or what's going on.
- 12:18Speaker 4: A little bit I'm not gonna project teams I like
- 12:21Speaker 4: because they always get screwed. I think I've done this
- 12:23Speaker 4: for the past three years. Either they would play like
- 12:25Speaker 4: Carolina or Miszoo, or they play each other. I'm like,
- 12:28Speaker 4: what the how's this ship possible? So no, I'm not
- 12:31Speaker 4: gonna let the basketball gods screw me over this year.
- 12:33Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say teams I like or or pick
- 12:35Speaker 4: teams I hate to make the Final Four, and then
- 12:36Speaker 4: if they make it, I'll look smart but still hate it. Lastly, uh,
- 12:41Speaker 4: Louisville is raked. Okay, I gotta give that coach credit.
- 12:46Speaker 4: That team, like I believe years ago, won like four
- 12:49Speaker 4: or five games. Last year they they were trash. Uh
- 12:54Speaker 4: when when they played last year's they're fifteen to five,
- 12:57Speaker 4: eight and one in the ACC. Dude, that is a
- 13:02Speaker 4: miraculous turnaround for a team that was literally getting ran
- 13:06Speaker 4: up that Jim religiously for close to three years in
- 13:08Speaker 4: a row. You're now raked and you're eight one in conference.
- 13:12Speaker 4: Hats off to the job that they've done. Now, Yes,
- 13:14Speaker 4: the transfer portal is the thing, Yes, you move guys around,
- 13:17Speaker 4: but I mean they were getting slacked for a couple
- 13:21Speaker 4: of years. So I just I'm not a Louisville family.
- 13:25Speaker 4: I'm just like, that's just remarkable, Chris, because for the
- 13:28Speaker 4: past half four years be doing the show, they've been
- 13:30Speaker 4: bottom tier of the a SEC. It's not even been close.
- 13:33Speaker 4: So hats off to whoever. That turnaround they've done is remarkable.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Well, and remember we used to talk about there's something
- 13:40Speaker 1: lacking on campus in the dorms, you know. Yeah, and
- 13:44Speaker 1: now I think now that players are getting paid, they
- 13:46Speaker 1: don't have to live in the dorms anymore. True with this,
- 13:50Speaker 1: so they brought the entertainment back and it feels like
- 13:53Speaker 1: it's working.
- 13:54Speaker 2: That's what it feels like to me.
- 13:55Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but it feels like it's very
- 13:58Speaker 2: entertaining on campus.
- 14:00Speaker 1: If those people know, you know, understand what I'm talking about,
- 14:04Speaker 1: we will have a lengthy North Carolina segment.
- 14:12Speaker 4: We're not even guaranteed to make the tournament this year,
- 14:14Speaker 4: my friend, we're struggling. And what's crazy is like last
- 14:19Speaker 4: couple of years, people have not been a huge fan
- 14:21Speaker 4: of Hubert Davis just because like obviously, replacing Roy is
- 14:24Speaker 4: hard to do. But I would say from what I've
- 14:27Speaker 4: seen on Twitter is I bet you that eighty percent
- 14:30Speaker 4: of Carolina faithful wants him gone.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Like I might want to stop right for you said
- 14:35Speaker 1: that sentence. Though everything I see on Twitter.
- 14:39Speaker 4: Well, yeah I know, I know, yeah, I know it
- 14:41Speaker 4: can be a rage feel mess. But no, you're right though, Yes,
- 14:45Speaker 4: but a lot of Carolina Faithful, not people who are
- 14:47Speaker 4: already forgotten the four un thrashing in politics. Yeah, I
- 14:51Speaker 4: think people thought that he inherited a good squad, which
- 14:54Speaker 4: he with Roy. Yeah, but just last handful of yours
- 14:57Speaker 4: spit his recruits, not the best, his eight game strategy, subby.
- 15:00Speaker 4: But I really feel that the fan base, which is
- 15:03Speaker 4: obviously is a pretty loyal They are definitely a blue blood.
- 15:06Speaker 4: And I'm biased because I love the team, but I
- 15:08Speaker 4: do feel that about eight out of ten Carolina fans
- 15:11Speaker 4: are just fed up with him, and they think, hey,
- 15:13Speaker 4: you had you had a chance, you had some good
- 15:15Speaker 4: teams that Roy left you, but man, they want him gone.
- 15:17Speaker 4: And I've you know, Cary, Caroline is probably one of
- 15:21Speaker 4: those teams that just you have a coach to the
- 15:23Speaker 4: coach there for quite a long time. So it's kind
- 15:24Speaker 4: of weird to see a team I love to just say, hey,
- 15:27Speaker 4: dude's got to go. But if you miss tournament this year,
- 15:31Speaker 4: that might be enough to make him go, because that's
- 15:33Speaker 4: something that I mean, it does happen, but not too often.
- 15:35Speaker 4: So just kind of a weird, weird mindset for my
- 15:38Speaker 4: targeels this year because probably that's not the base that
- 15:40Speaker 4: they have too often.
- 15:42Speaker 1: This is usually about the time they're getting their defense
- 15:44Speaker 1: together and making a run.
- 15:46Speaker 4: Yeah literally, yes, literally, you're correct. Hey, you'r go first ship.
- 15:50Speaker 4: They're on a heater, they've won three games in a row,
- 15:52Speaker 4: and they'd beat two ranked teams.
- 15:54Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we might not make forget the
- 15:57Speaker 1: big tournament, we may not make the Big ten tournament.
- 16:00Speaker 1: You know, it's so big now there's a cutoff. Oh,
- 16:04Speaker 1: you're right, just like the Big East Member when they.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Used to have a cutoff.
- 16:07Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, so yeah, the bottom three don't go,
- 16:10Speaker 1: I think. So. Yeah, we got out of the cellar,
- 16:12Speaker 1: so that felt good. But you're right. It is one
- 16:16Speaker 1: of those things when you look back at though, there's
- 16:18Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of games you're like, god, dang it,
- 16:20Speaker 1: if they could have just could have, should have would have. Sure,
- 16:23Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right. Back to back wins won in
- 16:27Speaker 1: dramatic fashion just in well, three wins in a row
- 16:30Speaker 1: and to you know, ranked and all that, but people
- 16:33Speaker 1: aren't trying to hear that just yet. Tennessee and Auburn
- 16:37Speaker 1: was a grin. It's funny because it's either gonna be
- 16:39Speaker 1: a grind out game in the SEC or they're both
- 16:42Speaker 1: gonna get other points. You know that, that's what it's like.
- 16:45Speaker 2: But fifty this was a grind out. Fifty three to
- 16:48Speaker 2: fifty one.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Auburn, who was who is the number one team, pushed
- 16:53Speaker 1: away Tennessee just enough. I mean that, like I said,
- 16:58Speaker 1: that was a freaking grind and you're especially in the
- 17:01Speaker 1: first half like twenty two to twenty. Then it was
- 17:03Speaker 1: thirty one to thirty one, so they did pick it
- 17:05Speaker 1: up a little bit, but that that three pointer with
- 17:09Speaker 1: like maybe half a minute after something.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Like that.
- 17:14Speaker 1: Was a big big you know that that did it
- 17:16Speaker 1: pretty much. But that that was a good game, Duke,
- 17:21Speaker 1: you know, snuck by wake Forrest. They got it done.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Iowa State, who's on you know, a tear right now
- 17:28Speaker 1: as far as you know, beginning of season and how
- 17:31Speaker 1: hot they are. Arizona State's a pretty good club. We
- 17:34Speaker 1: just talked about who they knocked off. They got a
- 17:35Speaker 1: nice win. We know, Michigan State looks like they're on
- 17:41Speaker 1: a hell of a run right now. I think twelve
- 17:43Speaker 1: in a row or something like that. Boys playing yep
- 17:48Speaker 1: Fandy upset Kentucky. I think Kentucky dropped too in a row.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Now Texas is starting to come up. They were ranked,
- 17:55Speaker 1: then unranked. They got a big win over A and
- 17:57Speaker 1: M seventy to sixty nine. Like I said, was a grinder.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Missoul missed another rank versus rank.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Zoo comes out on top Kansas State.
- 18:06Speaker 1: I'm just talking about how Western Union got in there
- 18:09Speaker 1: and no offense, but then all of a sudden they
- 18:11Speaker 1: got beat back to back. Yukon got knocked out. I
- 18:16Speaker 1: believe they got knocked out of the top twenty five
- 18:18Speaker 1: if I remember correctly. Yeah, getting beat by Xavior. So definitely.
- 18:26Speaker 1: You know, some shit happened on Saturday. But the bit,
- 18:30Speaker 1: I mean that Houston Kansas game.
- 18:33Speaker 4: Dude, if you forgot this.
- 18:36Speaker 2: I was, I was saving it.
- 18:41Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, it was just a fun
- 18:43Speaker 1: ass game and it was just a game of runs.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Like you know, it looked like Kansas had a decent
- 18:50Speaker 1: control of the game. Relatively speaking, of course, they had,
- 18:55Speaker 1: you know, a nice lead and then run early second
- 19:02Speaker 1: half by Houston tied up the score and Houston kept going.
- 19:08Speaker 1: I think they got it to like forty eight forty
- 19:11Speaker 1: two or something like that, and it was like, man,
- 19:15Speaker 1: and this is in Kansas, which we know, you know,
- 19:18Speaker 1: is not the easiest place to play, but Kansas got
- 19:22Speaker 1: their shit together and all of a sudden.
- 19:24Speaker 2: They had an eight to zero run and they're leading
- 19:27Speaker 2: with not much time.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Maybe halfway midway through that second half, they're leading after
- 19:33Speaker 1: like an eight ozho run and Houston ends up winning it.
- 19:38Speaker 1: We'll get into the details, but seventeen straight regular season
- 19:42Speaker 1: conference wins. It's the second longest in Big twelve history.
- 19:48Speaker 1: But you know, the biggest thing to talk about was,
- 19:53Speaker 1: you know, with the time, when you're up seventy nine
- 19:56Speaker 1: seventy three with twenty eight seconds left, that's pretty much game, right,
- 20:03Speaker 1: that's what you think until they hit back to back three.
- 20:09Speaker 4: Well yeah, but hey, a couple of things they'll repeat
- 20:13Speaker 4: on every college basketball podcast. Has got to make free throws. Yes,
- 20:17Speaker 4: they use up six rimmed out two and then all
- 20:22Speaker 4: of a sudden, and another thing you'll realize when you
- 20:24Speaker 4: watch college basketball is some teams have great guards who
- 20:27Speaker 4: know how to handle the press. Some teams don't. Now
- 20:30Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Kansas does not know how to
- 20:31Speaker 4: handle the press.
- 20:32Speaker 2: But.
- 20:34Speaker 4: There are signs where especially when teams do get pressed
- 20:37Speaker 4: and you haven't impressed all game. You know, most teams
- 20:39Speaker 4: in college basketball, there's no longer than Nolan Richardson forty
- 20:42Speaker 4: minutes of hell. Like very few teams I know, like
- 20:44Speaker 4: Saint John's does it.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Shaka used to.
- 20:47Speaker 4: But it's a small list. Submrmally, if you have a
- 20:50Speaker 4: very talted guard, he takes care of the ball, but
- 20:53Speaker 4: a tilted guard has to even step on the floor
- 20:55Speaker 4: even more when team gets pressed. And they got pressed,
- 20:58Speaker 4: they kind of fumbled up a little bit. Houston sold
- 21:00Speaker 4: that pass and busted to three, Like dude to hey,
- 21:03Speaker 4: when you're down six and there's like what I yeah,
- 21:05Speaker 4: twenty eight or he dribbled down to eighteen seconds for
- 21:07Speaker 4: that shot, you feel like you're checked out, but you
- 21:10Speaker 4: never quit. I mean, Houston's a For the past four
- 21:13Speaker 4: to five years, they've won about his many games anyone
- 21:15Speaker 4: else in the country. They don't have a title, but
- 21:18Speaker 4: their friend, their team has been about as good as
- 21:20Speaker 4: you can be without winning a ring. Yeah, so they
- 21:23Speaker 4: got no they got no reason to quit in them
- 21:25Speaker 4: and obviously it's at kus that's always gonna make people motivated.
- 21:28Speaker 4: So yeah, hey, you hit a couple of big threes.
- 21:32Speaker 4: He had the momentum, and hey, that was just that
- 21:35Speaker 4: was a super fun game. Hell they Houston Price made
- 21:39Speaker 4: the Final four last year, but they had those injuries,
- 21:41Speaker 4: so they kind of snuck up on it the very
- 21:42Speaker 4: long time. When they were playing Duke in the Elite eight,
- 21:45Speaker 4: actually in my backyard, I remember watching that one. They
- 21:48Speaker 4: were just a little too beat up. But again, this
- 21:50Speaker 4: is a really damn good team. Obviously they don't have
- 21:53Speaker 4: their stud point guard from last year, but they're still
- 21:55Speaker 4: good again. This year's you can tell by the record
- 21:57Speaker 4: if you're K you man, that's crazy because West Virginia
- 22:01Speaker 4: and my guy's small K they beat h K you
- 22:04Speaker 4: in the Big twelve opener and KU lost Houston out
- 22:08Speaker 4: neither o. The teams are jokes like Houston West Virginia
- 22:11Speaker 4: are good. But Chris the c K you lose a
- 22:14Speaker 4: couple of hold games already before you know February. That's
- 22:18Speaker 4: something you don't really see with the Jayhawks.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, and you know, like that l J. Cryer,
- 22:27Speaker 1: like he didn't even have a great game, you know,
- 22:32Speaker 1: I think he was like two or twelve or something
- 22:34Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, it's very
- 22:39Speaker 1: hard to win there in general, but it is. I
- 22:43Speaker 1: don't know, you think Kansas, you know, we'll see because
- 22:46Speaker 1: sometimes you'd be like, oh, Kansas is struggling all of
- 22:49Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, ten days later, like actually they're
- 22:51Speaker 1: tied for first, you know, so.
- 22:53Speaker 4: They're in the Elite eight again this year. You know
- 22:55Speaker 4: what do you know? Right?
- 22:57Speaker 1: But that was a big win, man, that was huge win.
- 23:01Speaker 1: And like you said, the free throws they mean something, dude.
- 23:04Speaker 1: I mean you're up by six, you got a chance
- 23:07Speaker 1: to get up by a seven or eight.
- 23:09Speaker 2: You know.
- 23:09Speaker 1: After that you left the door open and Houston put
- 23:13Speaker 1: their foot in it.
- 23:15Speaker 2: It was like, dude, you're not shutting this door.
- 23:18Speaker 1: So that was a big, big win and it might
- 23:20Speaker 1: be one of those wins that propel them true, you know,
- 23:25Speaker 1: and they took some losses early. But now if I
- 23:28Speaker 1: remember correctly, they're undefeated. Well they are, yeah, because they
- 23:31Speaker 1: have some teams last year, because remember they closed strong
- 23:34Speaker 1: last year.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Too, You're right, those injuries. I almost forgot about that.
- 23:39Speaker 1: And then Memphis put up a hundo on UAB on Sunday,
- 23:44Speaker 1: Illinois and Wisconsin took care of business, which kind of
- 23:47Speaker 1: catches us up, you know, to what's going on here
- 23:51Speaker 1: before we get to the you know.
- 23:53Speaker 2: The wrap rounds like we the whip a rounds. Really
- 23:57Speaker 2: the conference stuff in the standing, which.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Is she got a lot, a lot of a lot
- 24:04Speaker 1: of races once again, but you know, Auburn right number
- 24:08Speaker 1: one kind of Johnson notes on the top tier teams,
- 24:12Speaker 1: they beat Houston, Iowa State, Memphis and Missou Texas in
- 24:18Speaker 1: South Carolina, Tennessee and Georgia. So Houston, Tennessee, Iowa State.
- 24:25Speaker 1: Just those right there is like whoa you know Miszoo
- 24:30Speaker 1: has been is ranked still I think or did they
- 24:32Speaker 1: drop off?
- 24:33Speaker 4: Either way, there should be I believe, yeah, I believe
- 24:36Speaker 4: they're twentieth.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, just Houston and Tennessee and Iowa State
- 24:40Speaker 1: right there are just tremendous wings. They did lose to Duke,
- 24:45Speaker 1: That is the one slip up. Duke has won thirteen
- 24:49Speaker 1: in a row.
- 24:50Speaker 2: They did lose to.
- 24:54Speaker 1: Let's see, they lost to Kansas in Kentucky, they beat Auburn.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Obviously they're on a nice little stretch here. They kind
- 25:03Speaker 1: of had to figure out their team. It's kind of
- 25:05Speaker 1: there's some veterans, but there was that, you know, multiple
- 25:09Speaker 1: young guys, especially the top two that.
- 25:13Speaker 2: You know.
- 25:13Speaker 1: It was looking kind of like, okay, looking pretty good.
- 25:16Speaker 1: But now it does seem like they found their next year.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Like I said, thirteen in a row Iowa State, who's
- 25:23Speaker 1: having a great year so far. They beat Kansas, they
- 25:27Speaker 1: did lose to Auburn and your squad West Virginia. But
- 25:33Speaker 1: they're on the up and up, no doubt about it. Bama,
- 25:35Speaker 1: And you're gonna talk about their damn schedule. Actually, after
- 25:39Speaker 1: I say this, could you say their schedule again? So
- 25:43Speaker 1: Bama beat Houston, They beat Houston, they beat Illinois, they
- 25:47Speaker 1: beat Creighton, they beat Runkers, they beat A and M.
- 25:50Speaker 2: And they beat Oklahoma. They only lost to Oregon. It
- 25:53Speaker 2: all missed. But tell us again, what's left for Bama
- 25:57Speaker 2: in the last seven games of their regular season.
- 26:01Speaker 4: This really doesn't seem fair. Now. I will say Bama's
- 26:06Speaker 4: game they have in two days from now is at
- 26:08Speaker 4: Old at Mississippi State, who's fourteenth. But let's fast forward
- 26:14Speaker 4: just a little bit. Okay, they go to Texas on
- 26:18Speaker 4: February eleventh, who may be ranked to that point, but
- 26:20Speaker 4: curly or not. All right, So then Bama's last seven games,
- 26:24Speaker 4: you host number one Auburn, You go to number twenty Missou,
- 26:29Speaker 4: you host number twelve Kentucky, you host number fourteen Mississippi State,
- 26:35Speaker 4: you go to Tennessee, who's eighth, You go to Florida
- 26:39Speaker 4: or sorry, you host Florida who's fifth, and then finished
- 26:42Speaker 4: with Auburn again, who's number one.
- 26:44Speaker 2: So they have to face number one twice.
- 26:47Speaker 4: Yes, in your last well, in your last seven games
- 26:51Speaker 4: of the year, you were playing the first, twentieth, twelfth, fourteenth, eighth,
- 26:56Speaker 4: and fifth team all seven games ranked, and I mean,
- 27:01Speaker 4: thankfully four out of the three are at home. But damn,
- 27:05Speaker 4: that is a murderers row. Now, obviously they're gonna make
- 27:10Speaker 4: the tournament, but if you go, if you go even
- 27:15Speaker 4: four and three like that, dude, Yeah, I don't. The
- 27:18Speaker 4: schedule is the schedule, but damn that is man, that's
- 27:21Speaker 4: a tough schedule to look at. So they'll be tested.
- 27:26Speaker 4: If if I was offered, I might be like, dude,
- 27:28Speaker 4: can we just skip the Conference Tournament. We're good, coach,
- 27:31Speaker 4: We're fine. Can we just take a couple of days off?
- 27:33Speaker 4: Like that's gonna be a brutal thing. I would not
- 27:35Speaker 4: bet Alabama to win the SEC tournament. Their private hunt
- 27:38Speaker 4: need a break. But that's just like we talked a
- 27:42Speaker 4: lot about the Florida football schedule this year. To give
- 27:44Speaker 4: credit to them, they finished year pretty highly. They actually
- 27:48Speaker 4: the resigned the coach. People were kind of believing in
- 27:50Speaker 4: them again, but that was a grind. This is gonna
- 27:53Speaker 4: really kind of determine how like Alabama, dude, if you
- 27:55Speaker 4: can get through that at four and three or five
- 27:57Speaker 4: and two, like it might be time to give you, like, dude, okay,
- 28:01Speaker 4: and if you go two and five, that's still not
- 28:03Speaker 4: that bad. I've just we've we've done a lot of
- 28:06Speaker 4: years of shows. I don't crawl ever see it quite
- 28:10Speaker 4: a schedule like this, Chris, And now again say see
- 28:13Speaker 4: as a be unraped next month. But as of now
- 28:16Speaker 4: we're pretty deep into the season. That is truly a
- 28:19Speaker 4: murder a murder's role schedule.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Even if they're all in the top thirty thirty five
- 28:25Speaker 1: at this you said, and then they being that they
- 28:28Speaker 1: already took on Houston in Illinois in A and M
- 28:32Speaker 1: and all Miss and Oregon, like it's that is crazy. Yes,
- 28:37Speaker 1: a couple other ones. Florida did beat Tennessee. That's that's
- 28:40Speaker 1: a big win for them. We talked about Michigan State
- 28:44Speaker 1: twelve wins in a row right now. Houston, you know,
- 28:48Speaker 1: they're getting their ship together. They got that big Kansas win.
- 28:51Speaker 1: They're they're on a roll. They lost to Auburn and
- 28:55Speaker 1: Bama in the non conference, so, like you said, you're
- 29:02Speaker 1: not gonna get docked to too much for that. They
- 29:05Speaker 1: also lost in San Diego State, but you know, they're
- 29:10Speaker 1: they're they're on the up and up. Tennessee has wins
- 29:12Speaker 1: versus Baylor at Illinois, they barely lost to Auburn on
- 29:17Speaker 1: the road as well. Marquette has wins over Purdue. They
- 29:21Speaker 1: lost to Iowa State and Dayton and actually at Favior too.
- 29:29Speaker 2: You know Purdue.
- 29:31Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting, man, because we obviously know what
- 29:34Speaker 1: they lost. But they're having a pretty good year.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Man.
- 29:37Speaker 1: They beat Old Miss in Bama, they lost uh at Marquette,
- 29:46Speaker 1: they lost to Auburn and A and M. I mean
- 29:49Speaker 1: those are yeah, especially like some of those obviously in
- 29:54Speaker 1: the conference. So that that's when they're getting a ship together,
- 29:57Speaker 1: you know.
- 29:58Speaker 2: So they have to play.
- 29:59Speaker 1: Auburn, Bama, Old Miss in A and M in the
- 30:02Speaker 1: non conference, and Marquet. That's a freaking schedule, man, So
- 30:06Speaker 1: they kind of came a lot, you know, out of
- 30:09Speaker 1: that on the other side. So we'll see, you know,
- 30:12Speaker 1: how they finish. And then one more team I want
- 30:14Speaker 1: to talk about a Saint John's right. Yeah, they they
- 30:22Speaker 1: do have a win over New Mexico, you know, which
- 30:25Speaker 1: is a solid program. Yeah, they lost to Baylor by
- 30:30Speaker 1: a point. They lost at Creighton by a point. I
- 30:36Speaker 1: think they lost in Georgia by like two or three points.
- 30:40Speaker 1: So they're right there and they're playing well, which we'll
- 30:44Speaker 1: you know, talk about as we get In fact, just
- 30:47Speaker 1: for you. You can talk about some other teams or
- 30:50Speaker 1: whatever all you want, but just just for you, we'll
- 30:53Speaker 1: start our wrap around in the Big East, which finds
- 30:57Speaker 1: them eight.
- 30:57Speaker 2: And one in the conference.
- 31:00Speaker 4: I won't complain about that at all. Well, to just
- 31:02Speaker 4: finish top thwenty five. Louiso's up to twenty one again,
- 31:09Speaker 4: Hats off to the change they've had. Texas Tech I
- 31:12Speaker 4: think is off to a bit of a surprising start.
- 31:14Speaker 4: They've been playing good ball and Memphis and Miszoo two
- 31:17Speaker 4: teams I like, both playing decent. But yeah, that's it,
- 31:20Speaker 4: let's get to the conference. Oh. Actually, the biggest surprise
- 31:23Speaker 4: might be is that Yukon, who actually is the biggiest,
- 31:27Speaker 4: is fourteen and six. Now why is that a surprise? Well,
- 31:32Speaker 4: for the past two years they've literally been kicking ass,
- 31:34Speaker 4: taking names. But obviously, can you stand top forever? No,
- 31:38Speaker 4: I would not ever take Yukon lightly. I think you've
- 31:44Speaker 4: established Hurley's established program there that obviously is a contender.
- 31:48Speaker 4: I do not think that it's out of the realm
- 31:50Speaker 4: for them to make a Final four again. I mean
- 31:52Speaker 4: they're playing that. It's hard to repeat three years in
- 31:56Speaker 4: a row, you know, unless you're Mahomes and the refs.
- 31:59Speaker 4: But they're they're they're pre inside joke from earlier in
- 32:03Speaker 4: the show or not till inside if you like Twitter
- 32:06Speaker 4: and the media and the news across the world. Anyways,
- 32:09Speaker 4: Yukon is right twenty fifth. That probably the surprising to
- 32:13Speaker 4: the fan base. They have a fourteen to six record.
- 32:15Speaker 4: Their losses aren't bad. They've just had some losses versus
- 32:18Speaker 4: teams that are are pretty good. Uh, but it is
- 32:21Speaker 4: surprising to see them six and three. Like, this is
- 32:23Speaker 4: a team who for the past handful of years has
- 32:26Speaker 4: made the Biggiest proud. They've won back to back Natties
- 32:29Speaker 4: because they've had a really good team. But as you
- 32:31Speaker 4: know in college basketball, uh, you're normally when you have
- 32:34Speaker 4: a team full of like veteran players, some of the
- 32:36Speaker 4: guys are going probe because they've been around for long
- 32:38Speaker 4: enough to get drafted, or you might transfer portal or something.
- 32:42Speaker 4: But Yukon's twenty fifth, I'd just say that's a surprise
- 32:46Speaker 4: because people probably expect them to be higher. But again
- 32:48Speaker 4: I would cross them off. Uh, Creighton as usual having
- 32:52Speaker 4: a great year at seven to two in the conference.
- 32:54Speaker 4: They're not raked, but that's just that this is like
- 32:58Speaker 4: typical Craon. Hey, every year McDermott has that team prepared.
- 33:02Speaker 4: Kalk Brenner is still there. He's one of the better
- 33:03Speaker 4: centers in the country. Uh. But again, do they ever
- 33:06Speaker 4: make a serious series run at the tournament?
- 33:09Speaker 2: No?
- 33:09Speaker 4: They ply they'll probably make the Sweet sixteam, then they'll
- 33:11Speaker 4: probably disappear.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Uh.
- 33:13Speaker 4: You mentioned Saint John's Rick Potito's done a hell of
- 33:16Speaker 4: a job there. The guys are eight and one on
- 33:19Speaker 4: the year you mentioned they have three losses I think
- 33:21Speaker 4: by a combined score of less than ten points. So
- 33:24Speaker 4: in the three teams you said they lost too, are
- 33:26Speaker 4: all respectable. Yeah, so, uh, Patitos, he's got a true
- 33:32Speaker 4: kind of like gritty defensive team. And I say that
- 33:35Speaker 4: because they're the worst three point shooting team in the
- 33:39Speaker 4: Big East. So in a sport that is literally transformed
- 33:42Speaker 4: to threes. Hell, the NBA commissioner is trying to figure
- 33:46Speaker 4: out how to handle it because he got letters, say
- 33:47Speaker 4: which shoots me three? Is the NBA?
- 33:49Speaker 2: I know it's college, but.
- 33:50Speaker 4: In a sportwhards threes have really changed the sport. The
- 33:54Speaker 4: Patito's boys can't shoot threes, but they play hard those defense.
- 33:57Speaker 4: They have a badass just kind of old school big
- 34:00Speaker 4: center like ok Okacheffer something like that, and he's nasty.
- 34:05Speaker 4: It's not it's similar to Oakford, but quite a little
- 34:09Speaker 4: bit different.
- 34:10Speaker 2: What are you talking about right now?
- 34:12Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, I was looking at something. I
- 34:15Speaker 4: was thinking, okay, which would make sense with the Yukon. Yeah,
- 34:20Speaker 4: so Saint John's has they can't shoot threes, but they
- 34:23Speaker 4: have a tough, scrap team and as usual, it's been
- 34:26Speaker 4: this way for the past three or four years, Shot
- 34:28Speaker 4: and Marquettes up there too, so the the regular fellas
- 34:31Speaker 4: are up top of the Big East. It is a
- 34:34Speaker 4: bit of a down year though for Xavier Nova Providence
- 34:38Speaker 4: in Georgetown. All those teams were probably expecting to be
- 34:41Speaker 4: closer to a tournament team right now, but they're all
- 34:45Speaker 4: probably on the bubble or worse. There is still time.
- 34:50Speaker 4: But just to see the fact that Xavier Nova Providence
- 34:55Speaker 4: in Georgetown or either five hundred or less is kind
- 34:57Speaker 4: of surprising because those are teams who for the past
- 34:59Speaker 4: handfl of years has done pretty well. I've when when
- 35:03Speaker 4: I met Chris, I was not a biggest fan, and
- 35:05Speaker 4: for about the past five years, that's become my favorite
- 35:08Speaker 4: conference to watch, hands down. I will always have a
- 35:10Speaker 4: biggiet update for you. I've changed and uh Ed Cooley
- 35:13Speaker 4: was a Providence coach kind of got them off the
- 35:15Speaker 4: map and he uh was now Georgetown. So the Providence
- 35:19Speaker 4: played Georgetown this past week and the student sections were
- 35:22Speaker 4: saying not very nice things said Cooley and chanting ways.
- 35:25Speaker 4: So I always love talking the biggest if you've met
- 35:27Speaker 4: listen to this podcast before U. But yeah, as of now,
- 35:30Speaker 4: there's four pretty dominant teams and four that are on
- 35:33Speaker 4: the bubble, and the rest of the conference is pretty slow.
- 35:35Speaker 4: But uh, watching Dave SAMs or gust Johnson call games
- 35:39Speaker 4: is always a lot of fun. So that's my biggest
- 35:41Speaker 4: recap start year. My friend, thanks to let me do that.
- 35:43Speaker 4: I you gotta be smiling now, brother.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Yeah. And I would say Georgetown is still ahead of
- 35:49Speaker 1: where they should maybe be right now because they were
- 35:52Speaker 1: they've been bad.
- 35:53Speaker 4: True is ranging things around.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it's going to take a little
- 36:00Speaker 1: bit if anything. Seaton Hall, who has been decent last
- 36:04Speaker 1: couple of years or at least last year, they're won
- 36:06Speaker 1: and eight there. I would say they're under Saint John's
- 36:10Speaker 1: six in a row. They've only played one ranked team though,
- 36:13Speaker 1: so we'll see. But six in a row pretty damn good.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Like you said, Creighton's on a five game winning streak. Yeah,
- 36:21Speaker 1: he didn't like the He wasn't a big fan of
- 36:23Speaker 1: the ucon back in the day or not you come
- 36:25Speaker 1: but the Big Big East when it was the Big East. Somehow,
- 36:32Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't his favorite. Complete one eighty.
- 36:36Speaker 1: I mean there's like thirty for thirties on the goddamn
- 36:39Speaker 1: conference they will never get back those conference tournament games,
- 36:44Speaker 1: the semi finals, will never get those back. And I
- 36:48Speaker 1: was screaming back then, like you know, these are the ship,
- 36:52Speaker 1: this is history, this is Golden Age, and uh, you know,
- 36:56Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, it's pretty good, this is decent.
- 36:58Speaker 2: Is not that bad? So yeah, I do find it.
- 37:03Speaker 1: It must be just because they got Butler in there
- 37:06Speaker 1: or something.
- 37:06Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what it is, but
- 37:08Speaker 2: but yeah, a lot of the Big East went.
- 37:11Speaker 1: To the act funny enough, sure you know a ton
- 37:14Speaker 1: of them did actually, But yeah, so that that, you know,
- 37:18Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's a little top evy. It
- 37:20Speaker 1: will be interesting to see how long Saint John's can
- 37:22Speaker 1: keep it going. Like you said, you come get their
- 37:25Speaker 1: ship together. Coach needs to settle down on the sidelines
- 37:28Speaker 1: a little bit at times now, that that part. But
- 37:32Speaker 1: he's a fire dude, obviously, you know, of late who's
- 37:36Speaker 1: gonna say much to him.
- 37:38Speaker 2: He's been producing. But I am interesting to see where
- 37:42Speaker 2: Marquette goes this year because it is I think it's
- 37:49Speaker 2: very interesting to see exactly where they're gonna go.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Ac C Duke flying high nine and oh their only
- 38:01Speaker 1: two losses were to the AP you know, top twenty five.
- 38:04Speaker 1: So they're two and two, thirteen in row six and
- 38:07Speaker 1: zero on the road. They have some young guys, like
- 38:11Speaker 1: I mentioned that they're starting to really blend it together
- 38:16Speaker 1: and all. I don't know, like I remember the last
- 38:22Speaker 1: few years, the ACC has been very underrated during the season, yes,
- 38:28Speaker 1: and then they've gotten better results as the conference champion
- 38:32Speaker 1: or as the tournament kicks in the big tournament.
- 38:35Speaker 2: So we gotta keep an.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Eye on that. And you know North even North Carolina,
- 38:42Speaker 1: they're six and three in the conference. It's not like
- 38:44Speaker 1: they've played five ranked teams. They've only won one. But
- 38:48Speaker 1: still that's a lot of that's a that's challenging. So
- 38:51Speaker 1: they're gonna play shit right now, there's only two ranked
- 38:54Speaker 1: teams not to drag on, like Clemson or Stanford or
- 39:00Speaker 1: SMU or whatever.
- 39:01Speaker 2: Virginia being two and seven is pretty wild. In Miami,
- 39:05Speaker 2: oh to nine.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Now, I want to say something about Miami the head
- 39:10Speaker 1: coach there. I think we're running into this at times
- 39:17Speaker 1: with coaches, right and it's a little bit frustrating because
- 39:22Speaker 1: although I can understand their frustration, I think they're still
- 39:27Speaker 1: in the me me thing. Okay, I have nothing bad
- 39:30Speaker 1: overall to say about coach that was there, right, but
- 39:35Speaker 1: to quit in the middle of the season. I do
- 39:39Speaker 1: have an issue with that because if we keep talking
- 39:43Speaker 1: about players so much. Now, oh, the players are greedy
- 39:47Speaker 1: or this or that, or they're changing teams, Well, who
- 39:50Speaker 1: the hell do you? You know, it's like that commercial,
- 39:52Speaker 1: where'd you learn it? I learned it from you dad?
- 39:54Speaker 2: You know, like, who do you think they got this
- 39:57Speaker 2: shit from?
- 39:58Speaker 1: You know?
- 39:59Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 40:00Speaker 1: And I remember specifically when Miami was in that final four,
- 40:07Speaker 1: he had nothing but great things to say about the
- 40:11Speaker 1: NLI not yep, he had nothing but great things to
- 40:18Speaker 1: say about it. And by the way, that was a
- 40:21Speaker 1: bunch of transfers too, right, I mean he brought him in,
- 40:25Speaker 1: so they were transfers.
- 40:28Speaker 2: So he was loving it.
- 40:30Speaker 1: And then after their final four, well, guess what, you
- 40:34Speaker 1: get a raise? Yeah, that's not the weirdest thing. He
- 40:38Speaker 1: made it sound like it was just the worst thing.
- 40:40Speaker 1: It's like, dude, are you gonna get a raise after
- 40:43Speaker 1: you take a team to a final four? I think so?
- 40:47Speaker 2: You know, So it's a little half assed to to.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Go after the players when you quit on your team
- 40:56Speaker 1: during the regular season. That's fucked up to me, you
- 41:00Speaker 1: shouldn't even coach this year. Then I'm not a big
- 41:03Speaker 1: fan of that. Now, unless I've missed the report where
- 41:08Speaker 1: he's had some serious medical thing. Sure, I haven't seen
- 41:12Speaker 1: that though, so that.
- 41:15Speaker 2: I like him as a coach man. He's a damn
- 41:19Speaker 2: good coach, but we did.
- 41:21Speaker 1: It's just funny when the shit didn't go well and
- 41:23Speaker 1: people start leaving for more money and you weren't paying
- 41:27Speaker 1: people to fill your roster good enough or whatever, then
- 41:34Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's an issue on bailing during
- 41:36Speaker 1: this season. I really have a problem with that. And
- 41:40Speaker 1: I've had a rant about Saban before too. When you
- 41:43Speaker 1: listen to what he was saying in front of Congress,
- 41:46Speaker 1: he made it sound like all the one hundred and
- 41:49Speaker 1: thirty four teams filled with those players all say what
- 41:54Speaker 1: his players were saying, meaning let's talk money in the offseason,
- 41:58Speaker 1: which I could see is frustrating. Sure, but most of
- 42:02Speaker 1: the before this sentiment comes through most players out of
- 42:07Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four teams, the majority of the
- 42:11Speaker 1: players aren't getting any kind of money.
- 42:13Speaker 2: So it's just I think it's.
- 42:17Speaker 1: I think it's kind of telling and coach Al dude
- 42:20Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not trying to rip him as
- 42:22Speaker 1: far as how good of a coach he is, because
- 42:24Speaker 1: he did a lot of great things in Miami. But
- 42:28Speaker 1: I just find it very contradicting that you loved the
- 42:33Speaker 1: NLI stuff when you were in the Final four and
- 42:35Speaker 1: you quit during the.
- 42:36Speaker 2: Regular season rant over sure, I I'm with you, I'm
- 42:42Speaker 2: with you, and.
- 42:43Speaker 4: I was looking to Google make sure there's little hell stuff.
- 42:45Speaker 4: It just said that he was having trouble navigating the
- 42:49Speaker 4: new wins of the wins and the losses or the
- 42:52Speaker 4: wind of like a ship whatever, bad analogy, but of
- 42:55Speaker 4: the new the new way college basketball is laid.
- 42:58Speaker 1: Out right, so which is a bullshit excuse because he
- 43:02Speaker 1: used it to get him to the Final four.
- 43:05Speaker 4: Yeah that this this dame changed just this year, you
- 43:08Speaker 4: know so, But hey, Clemson.
- 43:12Speaker 1: Besides Duke Clemson and Duke in Louis. But it's wide open.
- 43:16Speaker 1: I'd say from like four to like ten or something.
- 43:19Speaker 4: I'd say, Yeah, I saw Clemson playing person last year
- 43:22Speaker 4: when I went to my March Madness sighting. They actually
- 43:25Speaker 4: had a really nice appearance that actually made the Sweet
- 43:28Speaker 4: six team from my games I had saw in person again,
- 43:31Speaker 4: Louisville is a surprise story for how bad they were
- 43:34Speaker 4: and then it I mean, I'm not gonna talk about
- 43:36Speaker 4: the next twenty five teams, uh, but you know that
- 43:39Speaker 4: right now Carolina is they're they're not a guaranteed Urnament
- 43:43Speaker 4: team right now. They need to take care of some business.
- 43:45Speaker 4: Like he said, it's gonna be hard to get ranked
- 43:47Speaker 4: wins with Nolan's ranked, but they got to kind of
- 43:49Speaker 4: get their shit together in Chapel Hill, Stanford, Hey, cool story, dude, Like, dude,
- 43:54Speaker 4: you've you've always kind of been a mid tier team
- 43:56Speaker 4: in the PAC twelve. Now you're a mid tier.
- 43:58Speaker 2: Team in the ACC.
- 44:01Speaker 4: And hey, it is weird so to see some schools
- 44:04Speaker 4: like Syracuse and pitt those are normally almost guaranteed March
- 44:09Speaker 4: Madness teams in your bracket, West Virginia especially, and hell
- 44:14Speaker 4: even vo Tech. So the fact that there's about four
- 44:17Speaker 4: teams who are pretty much always guaranteed to make the
- 44:19Speaker 4: tournament for the past five to seven years not in
- 44:21Speaker 4: at all is weird. So kind of still a down
- 44:24Speaker 4: step for the ACC. They've been turning downwards a little
- 44:26Speaker 4: bit lately for the past handful of the year. So
- 44:28Speaker 4: that's unfortunate, but we gotta keep going to a conference
- 44:33Speaker 4: which is having a better year for sure than the
- 44:35Speaker 4: ACC is the Big Twelve. As Chris said just a
- 44:39Speaker 4: handful of minutes ago, Houston's having a badass season. Are
- 44:41Speaker 4: eight to zero. Iowa State's also having a badass season
- 44:44Speaker 4: because they're a third better than Houston at seven and one.
- 44:47Speaker 4: Arizona Wildcats. Do not bet them to make a deep
- 44:51Speaker 4: brunk because every time I do that and March Madness,
- 44:53Speaker 4: they always fall apart again every year. That Tommy Lloyd,
- 44:56Speaker 4: that dude has f and talent every year, but they
- 44:59Speaker 4: never seem to put it all together come March. So
- 45:03Speaker 4: don't let that record deceive you. They're a good squad.
- 45:05Speaker 4: They have talent every year, but I haven't seen them
- 45:07Speaker 4: make a deep, deep tournament run that I would expect
- 45:09Speaker 4: of them. Texas Tech is right to twenty second at
- 45:12Speaker 4: six and two. The Jayhawks are eight to eleventh. He
- 45:15Speaker 4: get there five and three, which is kind of weird,
- 45:17Speaker 4: and then he got Baylor BYU UCF and my Virginia
- 45:22Speaker 4: Mountaineers my adopted team this year, I will say, Chris. Obviously,
- 45:26Speaker 4: the BYU story last year was phenomenal. They had an
- 45:29Speaker 4: incredible year. They did get their butt kicked that first
- 45:31Speaker 4: game of the tournament, which I event on them, But
- 45:34Speaker 4: then are coach went to Kentucky, so I think they
- 45:37Speaker 4: maybe digressed a little bit from maybe having some players leave.
- 45:39Speaker 4: Obviously do coaches a different system. So BYU's notwise hot
- 45:43Speaker 4: as they were last year. But the Big Twelve I
- 45:46Speaker 4: wouldn't even call top heavy. They're they're pretty pre damn
- 45:49Speaker 4: strong conferences here, my friend.
- 45:52Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.
- 45:53Speaker 1: And even like like you mentioned BYU, such Florida, Utah,
- 46:00Speaker 1: Western Gina, I mean three four and fours, two five
- 46:03Speaker 1: and threes. I mean it's when you can go down
- 46:07Speaker 1: to four games out of it, down you know, nine
- 46:10Speaker 1: teams or whatever. This is what's been really fun about this.
- 46:15Speaker 1: And you see a fair amount of one thing we noticed.
- 46:20Speaker 1: It was tough to do what Houston's doing right as
- 46:23Speaker 1: far as that many in a row. Remember last year,
- 46:26Speaker 1: last few years, we've been looking at the streaks, how
- 46:29Speaker 1: many wins in a row, And I'll be damned if
- 46:32Speaker 1: you could barely get to four or five? You know,
- 46:36Speaker 1: Texas Tech at four right now. You look at that
- 46:38Speaker 1: win lose streak and it was like you know, unless
- 46:41Speaker 1: you're Colorado there at the bottom. There wasn't a bunch
- 46:44Speaker 1: of losing streaks either, but there wasn't a bunch of
- 46:47Speaker 1: winning long winning streaks. So just shows you in that
- 46:50Speaker 1: AP Coaches Poll, stuff is chocked full of games pretty
- 46:55Speaker 1: much every team taking on top tier talent. But yeah,
- 46:59Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. You know, KU like, oh man,
- 47:02Speaker 1: but they're five and three, you know they're not. It's
- 47:05Speaker 1: not some kind of you know, I don't know. I'd
- 47:09Speaker 1: have to see their schedule. Maybe, you know, maybe maybe
- 47:11Speaker 1: they'll get a little it'll be rougher and they actually
- 47:14Speaker 1: will be fit or whatever. I do want to see
- 47:18Speaker 1: if Zona hangs in there too, because we know traditionally
- 47:23Speaker 1: Sona is a damn good program, right, we know that, yes,
- 47:26Speaker 1: but in recent years, you know, it's not even recent years,
- 47:32Speaker 1: but like now that they're in a tougher conference, that's
- 47:35Speaker 1: what I really mean, because you know, PAC twelve for
- 47:38Speaker 1: a while was kind of weak. It was top heavy,
- 47:41Speaker 1: But we also always the last three to five years
- 47:44Speaker 1: gave credit to Oregon or USC or you know, teams
- 47:47Speaker 1: that would make it to the Sweet sixteen. When we're
- 47:50Speaker 1: sitting there dumping on the PAC twelve, you know, so
- 47:53Speaker 1: I gotta give credit, you know, to them, but it
- 47:56Speaker 1: will be interesting to see like a blue blood Arizona, uh,
- 48:00Speaker 1: you know team.
- 48:04Speaker 2: Heading into a blue.
- 48:05Speaker 1: Blood conference, you know, and just the we could say
- 48:09Speaker 1: the SEC right now on paper appears to be better,
- 48:13Speaker 1: but we can't just move away from the Big twelve
- 48:15Speaker 1: like it's not right there with the SPC. It'll be
- 48:19Speaker 1: interesting to see all this plays out. But yeah, it's
- 48:23Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hell of a run all.
- 48:24Speaker 4: The way.
- 48:26Speaker 1: Because, like I said, Houston, you know, we'll see they've
- 48:29Speaker 1: had a hell of a run. Well what are they
- 48:32Speaker 1: gonna do for the next four out of six games
- 48:36Speaker 1: and onto the Big ten, which you know has so
- 48:40Speaker 1: many teams now, like I said, they do a cutoff
- 48:42Speaker 1: for the tournament. Luckily, my Gophers feel good now at
- 48:46Speaker 1: three and six because for a while there it was
- 48:49Speaker 1: a rough one. They were they were they didn't have
- 48:52Speaker 1: a win. And now you know, even Ruggers who started
- 48:56Speaker 1: out really well, and they got that young good player,
- 48:59Speaker 1: that Dylan dude, he's damn good.
- 49:01Speaker 2: Like I really thought that Rutgers is gonna be good.
- 49:04Speaker 1: This year and they're sitting there at three and six, Nebraska,
- 49:08Speaker 1: who's usually kind of scrappy. Penn State's kind of scrappy.
- 49:12Speaker 1: They're at the bottom of Washington one in eight. That's
- 49:15Speaker 1: you know, usually Washington puts a putting a pretty good
- 49:18Speaker 1: program together.
- 49:20Speaker 2: But Michigan State, man, you know, it would be fun
- 49:25Speaker 2: to see, is though.
- 49:26Speaker 1: In another Final four, in another final game. I would
- 49:29Speaker 1: be cheering for him at that point, no doubt about it.
- 49:34Speaker 1: It seems like I've actually seen him like calmly talking
- 49:38Speaker 1: to people on the sidelines, which is.
- 49:41Speaker 2: Hey, man, wow, what's going on?
- 49:42Speaker 1: Like his face is still red and his veins are
- 49:45Speaker 1: popping and all that stuff, but he's not yelling, So
- 49:48Speaker 1: that's a that's a positive. You know, he's turning the leaf.
- 49:51Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Michigan has popped up. They're seven and two,
- 49:55Speaker 1: Maryland six and four, they're pretty solid. Oregon was looking
- 50:00Speaker 1: good there. We'll see, if you know, maybe they'll go
- 50:04Speaker 1: on a losing streak. I don't know, but I think
- 50:07Speaker 1: i'd say Maryland Michigan are kind of surprised right now.
- 50:11Speaker 1: I thought Indiana would be a little bit better. But Purdue,
- 50:17Speaker 1: you know, Purdue, they've played seven freaking ranked teams and
- 50:21Speaker 1: they're four and three, you know, and we all know
- 50:24Speaker 1: who they lost, you know, So that that's that tells
- 50:28Speaker 1: you where Purdue is as a program. Sure, do they
- 50:31Speaker 1: have a national championship in the last thirty years. No,
- 50:34Speaker 1: but damn they make runs and they're just a quality,
- 50:39Speaker 1: quality program.
- 50:40Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, they really are. And obviously again last year
- 50:45Speaker 4: he lost to Yukon who had won two in a row.
- 50:47Speaker 2: So that wasn't anything to be in.
- 50:51Speaker 4: I was pissed off yesterday because I live at Indiana duraming.
- 50:55Speaker 2: The game versus Maryland.
- 50:56Speaker 4: I just like them to win. And Maryland had like
- 50:59Speaker 4: a four step travel or a double dribble whatever ship
- 51:02Speaker 4: you want to call God Almighty, at least three steps
- 51:06Speaker 4: and probably a double dribble, but the refs were not
- 51:09Speaker 4: calling it.
- 51:11Speaker 2: They were too busy looking at my homes or what.
- 51:14Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's possible. Well, I mean, Maryland is red,
- 51:17Speaker 4: so it's possible it could be. I mean, I got
- 51:22Speaker 4: I gotta bet the Chiefs. I gotta bet the Chiefs ship.
- 51:25Speaker 4: I just missed. Oh well, oh well wait, if we
- 51:27Speaker 4: leave soon enough, we'll be in time to watch the game,
- 51:29Speaker 4: because it wasn't afternoon tips, So you're right, I'm on
- 51:31Speaker 4: something here. Uh, hey, as usual. I know that the
- 51:36Speaker 4: Big ten has been a little bit down for the
- 51:39Speaker 4: past handful of yours, just a slight notch where they were,
- 51:42Speaker 4: but this is still a damn good conference. I did
- 51:45Speaker 4: hear some people talking about you know, you mentioned Saved,
- 51:47Speaker 4: you mentioned larnega Hey is alos an old school dude too,
- 51:52Speaker 4: but they like they're so I forget what website was.
- 51:54Speaker 4: So I'm talking about how he's simply or maybe it
- 51:56Speaker 4: was just a podcast or show, but he is simply
- 51:59Speaker 4: adapted to the new ways, because obviously is those old
- 52:02Speaker 4: school old school dude Now, I'm sure there was some
- 52:07Speaker 4: envelopes delivered to the Flintstone kids with Matteen Cleves and
- 52:10Speaker 4: Jason Richardson. But hey, it's new game and he's find
- 52:13Speaker 4: a way to adapt, and you can tell that by
- 52:16Speaker 4: his record of being seventeen into a old conference. So
- 52:19Speaker 4: hats off to is. Though I said, Purdue has been
- 52:22Speaker 4: right up there with Houston for the past five years,
- 52:24Speaker 4: winning about his main games as he humanly can. Michigan
- 52:27Speaker 4: is out of the cellar, so hats off to them,
- 52:30Speaker 4: and wrap up my Big ten point Wisconsin. They're playing
- 52:34Speaker 4: really up Temple this year. That's a team where And
- 52:36Speaker 4: I know this because I've kind of become a Wisconsin
- 52:39Speaker 4: fan like my co host, because my best friend always
- 52:41Speaker 4: got my March Madness trips. His whole family is Badger fans.
- 52:45Speaker 4: A couple of guys on the trips played there actually.
- 52:47Speaker 2: Back in the day.
- 52:48Speaker 4: So I've kind of become a Badger fan. I just
- 52:50Speaker 4: don't brag about to Chris much. But they're they're winning
- 52:53Speaker 4: games like eighty five to eighty this year. Normally Wisconsin
- 52:56Speaker 4: was always hey first one to score sixty, so it
- 52:59Speaker 4: is weird to see them play up tempo. Yeah, but
- 53:04Speaker 4: they're definitely not that bad your team anymore. So we'll
- 53:07Speaker 4: see how that pans out for them in March. Uh
- 53:12Speaker 4: as we float, Oh oh, and uh oh. For Rutgers,
- 53:14Speaker 4: you mentioned harper Son that Ace Bailey, he probably is
- 53:21Speaker 4: gonna be a top five pick. Ace Bailey and Rutgers
- 53:23Speaker 4: is effing good. It would be a true shame if
- 53:26Speaker 4: harper and as Bailey Bolto gets made the tournament because
- 53:29Speaker 4: team's aren't that good. Now, you could say, Marshall, how
- 53:31Speaker 4: can a team with the second best player in the country,
- 53:34Speaker 4: arguably in a top guard not make it? I don't know,
- 53:37Speaker 4: but if you ever watch a Rutgers game, they're fun
- 53:39Speaker 4: to watch. They have two lottery picks and again probably
- 53:42Speaker 4: a top three pick, but the Wreckers not that good.
- 53:45Speaker 4: So but Ace Bailey, that dude's a hooper. That dude
- 53:48Speaker 4: can play basketball. So if you ever want to watch
- 53:50Speaker 4: a Rutgers game, it'll be you're gonna watch ka wos
- 53:52Speaker 4: gonna be special, I think, and I think a lot
- 53:54Speaker 4: of people who get paid more than me to realize
- 53:57Speaker 4: that would say that. So turn on Rutgers because they're fun.
- 54:00Speaker 1: Watch as The one thing I'll say about the Big
- 54:04Speaker 1: Ten is they do get teams to the final four
- 54:08Speaker 1: in the final game a fair amount over the last
- 54:11Speaker 1: twenty Yes, and we kind.
- 54:14Speaker 4: Of made this.
- 54:14Speaker 1: We were talking about this during college football. They kind
- 54:18Speaker 1: of felt like the SEC this year, you know, because
- 54:23Speaker 1: they've had not I'm not saying the Big Ten this year.
- 54:26Speaker 1: I'm saying the last ten years. Let's say they've had
- 54:29Speaker 1: quality teams, their deep as hell, but they're not winning
- 54:34Speaker 1: the chip.
- 54:37Speaker 4: Yeah, So agreed, agreed, they seem to You can fade
- 54:42Speaker 4: them in uh Jay or February, but come March, just
- 54:44Speaker 4: like the Pac twelve, like the last three years the
- 54:46Speaker 4: PAC twelve was a conference. If you bet them in
- 54:49Speaker 4: March madness, you had made a lot of money. Like
- 54:51Speaker 4: there's been years past and few vere's where the Big
- 54:53Speaker 4: Tens down, Big Tens down. But then after your first
- 54:56Speaker 4: weekends over your brackets, like, well, dude, if I pick
- 54:59Speaker 4: the Big ten, be up quite a bit of money.
- 55:01Speaker 4: Well you know that's what you get. So now, one
- 55:05Speaker 4: of the reasons why a lot of teams from mount
- 55:07Speaker 4: raked in the act year the Big Ten is because,
- 55:09Speaker 4: holy shit, Auburn, Bama, Miszoo, Florida, Mississippi State, Vandy, Tennessee,
- 55:16Speaker 4: Texas A and m old miss Kentucky are all raked
- 55:19Speaker 4: and Texas longs n just came back from twenty two
- 55:21Speaker 4: points to beat A and m OI their home court.
- 55:24Speaker 4: So again, when one conference has literally a third of
- 55:29Speaker 4: the rate teams because there's twenty five teams that there
- 55:31Speaker 4: are shipping nine yeah, more than a third by Matthews,
- 55:34Speaker 4: mathis Jesus. So we could spend a whole podcast just
- 55:40Speaker 4: on the SEC. My one coal take I'll say on
- 55:43Speaker 4: Auburn is that brew got made people think he's one
- 55:46Speaker 4: of the best players in college basketball. I've watched him
- 55:48Speaker 4: play two games and every time he chicks up the
- 55:50Speaker 4: chucks of the ball, it looks like a brick. So
- 55:52Speaker 4: I clearly need to see this guy perform because I
- 55:54Speaker 4: do think he's special. The numbers say it, but the
- 55:57Speaker 4: tea games I've seen him play, he just turns around
- 55:59Speaker 4: chucks up up there, and it makes it look like,
- 56:01Speaker 4: you know, he's a middle school kid. But so I
- 56:03Speaker 4: need to check him out a good day. But Auburn's
- 56:05Speaker 4: playing good basketball. They didn't have a team fight this
- 56:08Speaker 4: year on a plane, but I guess that was to
- 56:12Speaker 4: improve team bondie and grow as a family, because some team.
- 56:15Speaker 1: Meetings aren't peaceful, you know what I mean. Sometimes you
- 56:18Speaker 1: get it in and.
- 56:21Speaker 4: After they even after that fight that day, they still
- 56:23Speaker 4: won that game. So Auburn is special. Bam is gonna
- 56:26Speaker 4: try to score ninety five on your ass? Uh miszoo
- 56:29Speaker 4: this first time. They've been decent, decent in the past
- 56:32Speaker 4: five six years. Uh Florida, Uh like you said, really back,
- 56:38Speaker 4: I don't know who the last time Florida's ranked fifth. Chris,
- 56:39Speaker 4: It's been a minute, so I can go down here.
- 56:42Speaker 4: But are all teams we don't got time for that.
- 56:45Speaker 4: The SEC is really good so far. My favorite player
- 56:48Speaker 4: of the conference definitely is Wade Taylor for a and m.
- 56:51Speaker 4: I got to see him in person last year too.
- 56:53Speaker 4: He put on quite a show. He did happen to
- 56:55Speaker 4: blow a toy two point lead versus Texas this past week.
- 56:57Speaker 4: That was not fun to see. But hey, the SEC
- 57:00Speaker 4: is loaded and the one thing you'll see about rate
- 57:03Speaker 4: teams is that, yes, they might beat each other up,
- 57:05Speaker 4: but sometimes the rankings don't go away, Chris, because if
- 57:09Speaker 4: you lose to a team in the top ten, do
- 57:11Speaker 4: you deserve fall down that much? Probably not so, even
- 57:15Speaker 4: though like a lot of teams are four and three,
- 57:17Speaker 4: four and three, four and three, three and three, five
- 57:18Speaker 4: and two, five and two. Like, when you're playing teams
- 57:21Speaker 4: of your caliber, the coaches pull and the ap pol
- 57:25Speaker 4: and the march bass people almost have to respect you.
- 57:27Speaker 1: I know.
- 57:27Speaker 4: It's weird because you think, oh, you've lost two in
- 57:30Speaker 4: a row, while you're gonna lose a ranking. Well, if
- 57:33Speaker 4: you're playing teams that are going to tournament it, obviously
- 57:36Speaker 4: a loss is always bad, but you're really getting tournament
- 57:39Speaker 4: tested and it really is hard to drop teams when
- 57:42Speaker 4: you're playing a ranked team. Almost every game in your schedule.
- 57:45Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. And like to your point,
- 57:48Speaker 1: you know, three teams in the top fifteen right now,
- 57:51Speaker 1: I guess you could say in the top thirteen, are
- 57:54Speaker 1: you know in that bottom part and that four to
- 57:57Speaker 1: three stretch is pretty pot I mean five teams four
- 58:00Speaker 1: and three and A and M's taking on seven ranked teams,
- 58:06Speaker 1: Kentucky taking on six or five and one. So I
- 58:11Speaker 1: mean this is and then when you look at Auburn Alabama,
- 58:14Speaker 1: you know, I mean eight teams, both of them, eight tops.
- 58:18Speaker 1: Fucking that's crazy, dude. There's times that you get through
- 58:22Speaker 1: and you play four teams the whole year. Sure it ranked,
- 58:26Speaker 1: you know, so yeah, even Texas is scrappy. Oklahoma's okay.
- 58:30Speaker 1: Georgia actually started out good. They kind of they've lost
- 58:34Speaker 1: four in a row, I believe, so Miss, you know
- 58:38Speaker 1: old Misses, Yeah right, not in good first year, but
- 58:44Speaker 1: Old Miss you know, they were on a run.
- 58:46Speaker 2: They lost three.
- 58:48Speaker 1: I do kind of feel like beyond we see this
- 58:50Speaker 1: Auburn eleven in a row, I do feel that I
- 58:52Speaker 1: have the big twelve vibes of you're not gonna see
- 58:55Speaker 1: too many six game winning streaks.
- 58:57Speaker 2: But in the top and in the middle.
- 59:00Speaker 1: You're not gonna see too many five games losing streets either. Yeah,
- 59:04Speaker 1: except you know at the bottom. So okay, Gonzaga, we
- 59:10Speaker 1: gotta go to the West Coast. Gonzaga is six and two,
- 59:15Speaker 1: Saint Mary's is eight and oh. Now they haven't faced
- 59:18Speaker 1: a ranked team, whereas Gonzaga just case in point has
- 59:22Speaker 1: taken on five. They're two and three, but they have faced,
- 59:26Speaker 1: you know, a tougher stretch to an extent. But I
- 59:31Speaker 1: don't know, man, Saint Mary's is starting to like turn
- 59:35Speaker 1: that corner as a team that's like, hey, we're right
- 59:38Speaker 1: with you, dude. We won it last year. We're gonna
- 59:41Speaker 1: keep doing our thing. So I did want to mention that,
- 59:44Speaker 1: and then, of course we usually end with this. A
- 59:49Speaker 1: few years back, people were commenting on us spending too
- 59:53Speaker 1: much time on the Mountain West.
- 59:54Speaker 2: But here we are.
- 59:56Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. During the regular season, it's an
- 59:59Speaker 1: in entertaining as hell conference.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: But right now there's no ranked teams, so.
- 1:00:08Speaker 4: You know they is taking all the ranks. Yeah, Ared
- 1:00:11Speaker 4: boys in the sandbox.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: New Mexico only lost that one at home. We mentioned
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: they do have an you know a couple of nice wins,
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: but they're nine and one. Utah States looking damn good.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: We gotta keep an eye on both Utah State and Colorace.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: The actually that San Diego State that I mentioned, I
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: think it was what Houston that lost to them or
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: something that doesn't look all that bad because Houston's two
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: to one against top twenty five, So you know, will
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: like air Force was a little better last year, same
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: with Nevada unlb's five and four, Boise State five.
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: Before.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: It's just a it's a fun conference. It's definitely like
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: the hardcore the hardcore fans.
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: Can get into this conference because it's just it's just
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: fun all the way to the end. Generally speaking, it
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: has been lately.
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: Yeah, and honestly for the past three to four years,
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: normally the same of the year, you have four teams
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: who are ranked like and normally this kind of is
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: like a five horse race that who's gonna be the
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: one seat. It's a little bit spread out more than usual.
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: But again, Boise who has been contending to win the
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: conference title for the past three or four years of
- 1:01:20Speaker 4: the regular season, they're a bit down. But yeah, this
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: is a respectable good conference and that it seems like
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: for March madnesson either will win all their first round
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: games or lose them all. So it's kind of a
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: fifty to fifty shot come term time if you want
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: to put them on your bracket.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Who knows.
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: I think they've had a little bit of bad luck.
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: But it is a very fun tournament conference to watch
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: the regular season, and they have one of the better
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: conference tournaments because in their conference tournament you're playing for
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: life and death. Like you might get a.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Couple of that large too, Yeah, but it means that
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: much more.
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: Yeah, of the five teams who were playing to win
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: the conference regular season title, two are only going to
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: get it at large bits. I mean our three are
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: literally scrapping just to make it to the conference survey
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: game to have a chance to go dance in March. So, yes,
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: a very fun conference to watch, my friend, and hey
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: for Saint Mary's. Dude, about like, can someone else besides
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: gonzag will win the conference this year? Maybe? Just hey?
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: No?
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: And did Mary's win last year? It's almost positive?
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well I'm overall to keep that going.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: So otherwise, Gonzaga get the hell out of there, d
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: what the hell? Yeah?
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: And Saint Mary's has been one of the most solid.
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: I think they will almost make tournament every single year.
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: So they've hadsuing Gonzaga, but they make tournament every single
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: year and they're very hard to play it. So definitely
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: a good program. But hey, if they could win it,
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: good for them. So far, so good tonight. North Carolina
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: up twenty five nineteen on Duke. And I say that
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: because you know my co host the Big North and
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: State and see State.
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: I know that I'm saying.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: That's good though, isn't it see Duke winn No, hell no.
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I'm flag whatever.
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: I know it's eNCA State because you know why, because
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: I'm not dumb too. I know they're They're not gonna.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: Play him back to back. Correct, that's not how the
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: schedule goes.
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: Oh, I heard you just say North Carolina. I was
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: like a guys, I know.
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: It's about quest.
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: Oh I misheard you. Okay, Okay, I got you.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: I thought I said State. Either way, I know they're
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: I haven't written down Duke in North Carolina, who nobody
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: gives a ship about right now yet.
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: Is playing on Saturday.
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: Trying to see you try to give somebody like some
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: positivity about the team, and it's like, Twitter, did you
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: get the ship smack right back in your face? Uh?
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: It was?
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: They number three Iowa State at Zona tonight. That's the big,
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: big game. Yeah, good one Tennessee Oklahoma at thirteen Texas
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: A and m good be sneaky. I'm just saying number
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: four Bama at Mississippi State number fourteen Texas scrappy. They
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: gotta go to Old Miss. I think Old Miss is
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: gonna win that game, but you better. You don't want
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: to be losing four in a row, That's for damn sure.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: But Saturday, man number one Auburn at Old Miss. You
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: think Old Miss got an interesting week?
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: Come up? They better tighten up.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: Dude, Florida at Tennessee five against eight Miszeus at number
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: fourteen Mississippi State, Texas Tech at Houston, Kansas State at Baylor.
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: And then, like I mentioned, Duke and North Cacalaca, maybe
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: on the second go round, people will be more interested
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: in it.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: Marciall Yeah, I mean the rival. He is lost its
- 1:04:53Speaker 4: luster and I hate the guy. But when coach k
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: Lesson hasn't quite been the same, Carolina has fallen down
- 1:04:59Speaker 4: a bit of a step.
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: With Hubert.
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: I'll still be watching the game and still means the
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: world to me, But it's definitely not quite the same
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: it was when it was Roy and uh coach k Now,
- 1:05:10Speaker 4: it's obviously a Shire and Hubert Davis. But when those
- 1:05:14Speaker 4: schools play each other and I see that evil, dark
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: colored blue, my blood boils. So I'll be watching that game. Hey,
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: if Caroline has been finding a way to need to
- 1:05:23Speaker 4: wake up this year, this could be it. Holy shit,
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: you still got to pay, even though the rivalry is
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: maybe taking a step down from a social media presence,
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: you still got to pay seventeen hundred dollars to get
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: in the door for that game. So the fan market
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: are still the people still want to see it. But damn,
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: that's that's a joke. Yeah, that's excellent wicket. Yeah, you're right,
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: You're right.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: You know I'm not.
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: And hopefully after I'm sitting on a victory cocktail to
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: see North Carolina beat Duke. Oh, Arkansas's going to Kentucky.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: Oh that's gonna be tells me there's gonna be a
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: couple of signs going on.
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: There might be some words like this past week, Providence
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: fans were chanted f U at Cooley, there might be
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: a couple of chances towards coach cal.
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: And that was the second go round too, because remember
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: they already got that. They still were going at them.
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: Yeah, man, this is cal Party's first game going back
- 1:06:22Speaker 4: into the turned that on that that's gonna be a
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: game that It might be a first half of the game,
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: but that'll be a game, damn. Yeah. So hey Saturday,
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: there's no college football, there's no NFL playoffs, but you
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: got college basketball to hook you up.
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: So they tied last year, they tied Gonzaga. Oh I
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: remember they had the lead on them. They were slitting
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: near the end. Yeah, so they actually they actually tied.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: So okay, that's fair. It's you know, it's it's Gonzaga
- 1:06:58Speaker 4: has been running of that ship for a long time.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: A long time. Yeah, definitely, all right, all right, let's
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: let's let's get sure.
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: You ready we still got our segments, sir?
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
- 1:07:15Speaker 4: I told you.
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: All right, Okay, all right, yah cracking, let me already closed.
- 1:07:19Speaker 4: Out all my shit, hold on, hold on, okay, okay,
- 1:07:23Speaker 4: all right, I got you.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: The game I found you can get in this game
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: for thirteen dollars. So I don't know what the math is,
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: but how many times is thirteen going to seventeen hundred?
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: You could probably buy every ticket for everyone who's going
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: to be at this game for the price of one
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: for Duke Carolina. All right, what day were talking?
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: Saturday?
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: We are talking Saturday, sir, Yes, Saturday.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: And the game is at what conference?
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: In the The game is in the Horizon Conference? Alright,
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: Horizon Conference. This game is on esp plus.
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: Hey, which.
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: Green Bay is traveling to Detroit Mercy. Doug Gottlieb, the
- 1:08:10Speaker 4: man who stole credit cards and it was an analyst
- 1:08:12Speaker 4: on ESPN for a while, has been coaching.
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: A lot to say about coaches.
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: When he was yeah, and he call he called his team,
- 1:08:20Speaker 4: he called some team, some no name team that he's
- 1:08:22Speaker 4: gonna play. Well, I want to play some name teams.
- 1:08:25Speaker 4: Do this for a regular season game to fill in
- 1:08:27Speaker 4: and that team beat this seem so Dougie's struggling.
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: That shit, he's two and twenty on.
- 1:08:33Speaker 4: The year, He's on eleven in conference. Holy shit, Detroit
- 1:08:37Speaker 4: Mercy is six and sixteen. I guess I will say
- 1:08:41Speaker 4: I have a little bit of a soft spot for
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: Detroit Mercy had a player named Davis a couple of
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: years ago who almost got the CAA scoring record. I
- 1:08:46Speaker 4: believe he's the third highest score for a college points
- 1:08:49Speaker 4: your whole history of your career. So Detroit Mercy, I
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: have watched him play handful of the games, not anymore,
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: but Green Bay two and twenty one, eleven, Detroit Mercy
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: six and sixteen, two and ninety conference. He can get
- 1:09:01Speaker 4: in the door for thirteen dollars, Chris for the first
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: game of the year. To have a team that's two
- 1:09:08Speaker 4: and twenty where the coach has given some carve said
- 1:09:10Speaker 4: back his way. This is a great start to the crafty,
- 1:09:12Speaker 4: crappy college basketball. First game of the year.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: It is.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: It definitely is Orlando love Joy as the leading scorer
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: for Detroit Mercy Mercy. Okay, they're giving up eighty green Bay,
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: not the Packers are giving up eighty point seven a game.
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: That's that's a lot. That's a lot of Yeah, they
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: they've lost him, so this is they've lost seventeen in
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: a row. Okay, So you know, there's plenty of times
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: I listened to Doug Gottlie and I thought, all this
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: guy kind of knows what he's talking about. But there
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: were times where I always was like, really, dude, really though,
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: do you have to go there with it?
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: I thought he was a little over the top, but
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: I thought but I thought he was good.
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: But it is kind of funny how like you said,
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: he's like downgrading a team and then they got beat
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: by him.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: So just off fat.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: I mean Mercy Mercy, me Detroit Mercy Titans. You know,
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: I know a handful of people from Detroit. They gave
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: Wake Forrest a good run. They they faced Kula, so
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: they actually challenged himself, you know, in the non conference.
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: So I am gonna go with Detroit Mercy, my friend.
- 1:10:36Speaker 4: All right, Well, on that note, that is the first
- 1:10:39Speaker 4: crafty crafty pick of the week. Uh, we will do
- 1:10:42Speaker 4: that every week. That's just a fun segment we've done
- 1:10:45Speaker 4: for football, I have done. I don't think I've done
- 1:10:47Speaker 4: the alumni battles, so I don't know, maybe maybe later
- 1:10:50Speaker 4: this year's college basketball. But on that note, hey, March
- 1:10:53Speaker 4: Madness only six weeks away. We're due for a very
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: very fun season college basketball. We literally could not spend
- 1:11:00Speaker 4: enough time in the SEC or the Big Ten for
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: the conference battles they have going on. So we have
- 1:11:04Speaker 4: lots of good college basketball to help try and make
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: those things smooth out a little bit. Or maybe a
- 1:11:10Speaker 4: month from now, when it's February twenty seventh, the conference
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: races are still a hot mess, which means our podcast
- 1:11:15Speaker 4: is even more fun to discuss. So on that note,
- 1:11:19Speaker 4: stay safe, stay warm, enjoy some college basketball. This Saturday.
- 1:11:22Speaker 4: The boys are out Peace,