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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Listen live every weekday morning from seven to ten on
- 0:07Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five and on the Altitude
- 0:11Speaker 2: Sports Radio app.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Game three tomorrow at seven o'clock. You'll be right here
- 0:22Speaker 3: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Extended pregame with Between
- 0:26Speaker 3: the Pipes at five o'clock tomorrow, and you can go
- 0:28Speaker 3: watch them at Stony's on Lincoln if you are so inclined.
- 0:33Speaker 3: I want to start here though. Here's what I was
- 0:36Speaker 3: thinking about. Let's say that we didn't live in the
- 0:39Speaker 3: great state of Colorado. Let's say that you know what,
- 0:43Speaker 3: what's date. Things happen differently. We are now doing this
- 0:46Speaker 3: radio show in Minneapolis Saint Paul. Oh God, please, no
- 0:50Speaker 3: talking to a whole bunch of wild fans about Game three.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Give me the pitch you would make to your radio
- 0:58Speaker 3: listeners in the Minneapolis Saint as to why you think
- 1:01Speaker 3: you will win Game three.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I'll make the same pitch that I gave the Nuggets
- 1:06Speaker 1: after Game two of their series, the exact same thing.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I'll say the exact same thing, and I won't even
- 1:11Speaker 1: be talking about the Nuggets team. There must be repercussions.
- 1:16Speaker 1: There must be more physicality. You must take them out
- 1:20Speaker 1: of their element. You must make them feel you. You
- 1:24Speaker 1: must do exactly that if you want to win this series.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Does that sound familiar?
- 1:29Speaker 4: It does sound familiar.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Emos, give me the reason I make you, Paul Allen
- 1:35Speaker 3: out there in in Minneapolis, you.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Tell me, let me do my best Minneapolis.
- 1:41Speaker 4: All right, good evening.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Good morning everybody. Someone O two am here on wp
- 1:46Speaker 2: I g hang it out here at Saint Paul, Minnesota.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Ready take it? That was from ud That was that
- 1:53Speaker 2: was the rival station from w k RP in Cincinnati.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Was WPIG.
- 1:57Speaker 4: Sorry go ahead, sorry anyway, Well, welcome to the program.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Here on be a pig with Vittorio Kaneerski and mos.
- 2:04Speaker 2: What's going on? Listen all wild fans here get getting
- 2:07Speaker 2: ready for Game number three coming up tomorrow night. Here's
- 2:09Speaker 2: what I would advise, Go jump in the Mississippi River
- 2:12Speaker 2: because you got no shot. All right, let's move on
- 2:15Speaker 2: to Twins baseball.
- 2:16Speaker 3: It is, but it is something like legitimately, I was
- 2:18Speaker 3: thinking about if I was doing a show in Minnesota today,
- 2:21Speaker 3: what would be my pitch to the fan base on
- 2:23Speaker 3: why I think that Minnesota can win because okay.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Because they've been I mean, Game one, they were they
- 2:29Speaker 2: had a leading Game one, they were up five to
- 2:31Speaker 2: for a minute. Yeah I know, I'm just saying they
- 2:34Speaker 2: were up. They were up, and they've got if your
- 2:36Speaker 2: goaltending actually shows up the way it did throughout the
- 2:39Speaker 2: second half of the season and in that Dallas series,
- 2:41Speaker 2: you got a shot.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And if you want to go total nerd and go
- 2:45Speaker 1: to the advanced analytics and all that business, according to
- 2:48Speaker 1: the advanced stats, they're not only playing with the Avs
- 2:51Speaker 1: five on five, they're out playing the Avs five on five.
- 2:56Speaker 2: And the Abs are the best five on five team
- 2:59Speaker 2: in the National Hockey League this year. Now that being said,
- 3:01Speaker 2: that's two games that ain't a seven game series, so
- 3:06Speaker 2: it's not exactly an easy thing to do. I don't
- 3:09Speaker 2: really care about Minnesota. I'm not gonna try to give
- 3:11Speaker 2: them reasons to stay in this series. I care about the.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Well, no, no, this this exercise is just let me
- 3:17Speaker 3: dovetail it back to the end.
- 3:18Speaker 2: You're getting some psychology bull crap going on this morning.
- 3:21Speaker 2: I don't like it.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I know, I think it's it's a fair exercise because
- 3:25Speaker 1: it makes them wonder and think that you know.
- 3:28Speaker 4: Here's here's the reason why I did everybody role play.
- 3:31Speaker 2: I'll play the uh, I'll play the French Maid.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Let me tell you why I did this because I
- 3:36Speaker 3: wanted to make sure it was just a joke. Nelly,
- 3:39Speaker 3: you're gonna play the French man a job. The reason
- 3:42Speaker 3: why I did this is I wanted to try and
- 3:44Speaker 3: get out of my little Avs bubble here where all
- 3:47Speaker 3: I'm thinking is I don't know how this team loses
- 3:50Speaker 3: like I honestly, it's because I am so uber confident
- 3:53Speaker 3: in the Avalanche and the way that they're playing right now.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I'm like, am I being almost too biased in a
- 3:58Speaker 3: sense that I've watched this all year and.
- 4:01Speaker 1: There yet I'm not that uber confident. I do notice
- 4:05Speaker 1: that Minnesota has been able to skate with the aps.
- 4:08Speaker 1: I do see goals that could have been scored that
- 4:10Speaker 1: if not for Weggie, it could be a different result.
- 4:13Speaker 1: I do see that stuff, and I wonder if the
- 4:16Speaker 1: puck bounces a different direction, if we're not having a
- 4:20Speaker 1: different conversation.
- 4:21Speaker 3: I think all of that is fair, But I would
- 4:24Speaker 3: tell you that that still gives me more confidence in
- 4:28Speaker 3: the ass From this sense, is that Wedgwood isn't playing
- 4:32Speaker 3: out of character. Wedgwood is playing how he played over
- 4:36Speaker 3: eighty two games, which is best safe percentage in the league,
- 4:39Speaker 3: best goals against. And on the opposite side, Minnesota doesn't
- 4:44Speaker 3: know who they want to play goalie right now. That's
- 4:46Speaker 3: a problem.
- 4:47Speaker 2: It's a big problem. Not only that, but Eric Sinek
- 4:51Speaker 2: and Brodein haven't skated since their injuries, and they just
- 4:55Speaker 2: said yesterday, yeah, yeah, they ain't just jumping back in
- 4:58Speaker 2: and going for it. They're going to have to ramp
- 4:59Speaker 2: up up to it.
- 5:00Speaker 4: Sounds like Manson's closer than them very.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Well could be. Yeah, So you know, we'll see exactly
- 5:07Speaker 2: what the future holds with those two guys, because I
- 5:09Speaker 2: think they're very critical to their team.
- 5:11Speaker 4: By the way, Uh, any update on Manson? Any update
- 5:14Speaker 4: you want to give on Manson? No, Okay, there you go,
- 5:18Speaker 4: just say it just in case you guys are wandering.
- 5:21Speaker 3: No.
- 5:21Speaker 2: But it's what I'm trying to get out here, Brett,
- 5:23Speaker 2: is that Vic is right. Look, let's say they have
- 5:26Speaker 2: one of these crazy shooting percentage nights where you throw
- 5:30Speaker 2: stuff at the net, VIC and it's right here by
- 5:31Speaker 2: Wedgwood's head, like you know, the top shelf top. You know,
- 5:35Speaker 2: just through traffic. Crazy stuff happens. I've seen it all
- 5:39Speaker 2: in my life in the national hockey like, I've seen everything.
- 5:43Speaker 2: But overall, this is why you have seven games series.
- 5:48Speaker 2: The better team is gonna win.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Overall.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Well, Minnesota is really good, Like they're a really good team,
- 5:54Speaker 3: and that's why tomorrow, if they're gonna have any shot
- 5:58Speaker 3: to win in this series, it's it's tomorrow.
- 6:00Speaker 4: Carolina looks very good, do they not?
- 6:02Speaker 2: Yes? They did.
- 6:03Speaker 1: You know what I anticipate by the way, watching that
- 6:05Speaker 1: Carolina game, the game is over late. And what happens
- 6:08Speaker 1: late when you're down three to nothing in a series
- 6:10Speaker 1: and you're frustrated, what happens.
- 6:12Speaker 4: It just what becomes a punch fast.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Yes, So if the Abs do go in to Saint
- 6:16Speaker 1: Paul and assure themselves a w with minutes remaining, I
- 6:20Speaker 1: think you're gonna see the exact same thing play out.
- 6:23Speaker 2: It's a lot of anger last night late in that game.
- 6:26Speaker 2: That being said, they're a really good hockey club. The
- 6:31Speaker 2: Abs are a really good hockey club. Minnesota. These are
- 6:34Speaker 2: the three best teams left in the postseason in my opinion,
- 6:37Speaker 2: not to say the Buffalo is not really good because
- 6:39Speaker 2: they are or Vegas or I mean whatever. Any team
- 6:42Speaker 2: could bite your butt on any given night. But the
- 6:44Speaker 2: three best teams left are the two that are playing
- 6:47Speaker 2: this series, and that team in the Red and white, well.
- 6:50Speaker 4: This is Matthew Kachuk and Pat mcvy.
- 6:52Speaker 5: Yesterday have been unreal so far. They've been crazy games,
- 6:55Speaker 5: a lot of overtimes. I just think, I know, I'm
- 6:58Speaker 5: not like allowed to pick anything, but I would say
- 7:01Speaker 5: that the winner of Colorado and Mini has got a
- 7:04Speaker 5: very very good of winning it all. Like that's a
- 7:07Speaker 5: that's a big boy battle with those two teams, and
- 7:10Speaker 5: Colorado's playing as good as anybody right now.
- 7:13Speaker 2: That's the god's honest truth. I mean, you think Matthew
- 7:17Speaker 2: ku Chuck knows Puck a little bit? Of course he does.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Other he's a really good dude.
- 7:22Speaker 6: Man.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I like that guy a lot. I know it sounds crazy.
- 7:24Speaker 2: I don't even know if it sounds crazy.
- 7:26Speaker 1: But I think what's not to like.
- 7:28Speaker 2: I had a long conversation with him one time about
- 7:31Speaker 2: twenty minutes. Great kid. That being said that, it's accurate.
- 7:35Speaker 2: The Avs are really good, Minnesota is really good, and
- 7:40Speaker 2: they've got to be frustrated too. Like, why do we
- 7:42Speaker 2: have to have the avil Why do we get Dallas
- 7:44Speaker 2: in round one, one of the top five teams in
- 7:46Speaker 2: the league, and now we get the top team in
- 7:48Speaker 2: the league in round two. It just it's crazy.
- 7:50Speaker 1: You know, what I'm about to say is truly a
- 7:53Speaker 1: hollow complaint and it's a waste of everyone's time. And
- 7:57Speaker 1: we already planned for it. We knew that this this
- 8:00Speaker 1: window was coming between games two and three. But my god,
- 8:05Speaker 1: it feels like months forever. I mean what, guys, I
- 8:10Speaker 1: anticipated a long way, but I had no idea it
- 8:13Speaker 1: was gonna take this long. It is the earth just
- 8:17Speaker 1: is time stopping? What is going on? Why is it
- 8:20Speaker 1: taking so long between these games?
- 8:23Speaker 2: Well, it's not it normally wouldn't vic. But again, the
- 8:26Speaker 2: Frost played last night and the Frost play again tonight
- 8:29Speaker 2: in the building, so you don't have access to the building,
- 8:32Speaker 2: so I don't know where you want to play.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Wait a minute, the Frost, which is the the Frost
- 8:39Speaker 1: is on now again.
- 8:41Speaker 2: They have two champion it's a playoff series. So they
- 8:45Speaker 2: played two games in a row, playoffs.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Back to back nights, back to back to back.
- 8:50Speaker 4: Video calls back to but that is to fix credit.
- 8:53Speaker 4: Why not move one of their games to Saturday?
- 8:55Speaker 2: In your game?
- 8:56Speaker 1: Why is this difficult? Why wouldn't you move one of
- 8:59Speaker 1: their games to Sunday.
- 9:01Speaker 4: Doing a back to back.
- 9:04Speaker 2: I'm not in Minnesota. I don't know.
- 9:05Speaker 1: I'm looking at going on. Here's why. I'm looking at you.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Here's why. And Caine Neally, everybody look at him. Everybody
- 9:12Speaker 1: look at him. You speak for this sport on this show.
- 9:16Speaker 1: You are the ambassador of this sport. We've already talked
- 9:19Speaker 1: about Betman and what he does in the first and
- 9:21Speaker 1: second rounds playoff wise, Why in God's name would they
- 9:25Speaker 1: not alter that schedule and move one of those Frost games?
- 9:30Speaker 2: What?
- 9:32Speaker 1: What is going on?
- 9:33Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you, bro, I don't I don't know.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Text says the p w HL offered to move the
- 9:39Speaker 3: game and the league said no because they wanted it
- 9:41Speaker 3: on Saturday in primetime.
- 9:43Speaker 2: There you go.
- 9:44Speaker 1: So it's a league issue and not a Frost issue.
- 9:46Speaker 3: I don't know if you're if you're trusting that texture,
- 9:49Speaker 3: but it seems like we could have played Thursday and
- 9:52Speaker 3: Saturday and you still get.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Your primetime game.
- 9:54Speaker 4: I would agree.
- 9:55Speaker 2: What's crazy is that the Panthers could listen to me
- 10:00Speaker 2: one hundred of the thousand. The Hurricanes play tomorrow as well, right.
- 10:06Speaker 4: Yes, and that will be their fourth game in the series.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Buffalo has played one game so far against Montreal. The
- 10:12Speaker 2: second game is tonight. They could be done with their
- 10:14Speaker 2: series tomorrow. Where those teams have just played two games.
- 10:17Speaker 4: What are they doing?
- 10:19Speaker 2: They haven't lost game? No?
- 10:20Speaker 1: No, what is the league schedule maker? Yeah, all it does.
- 10:23Speaker 1: It's gonna lead to somebody waiting a long time.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not You're not thinking that. Oh yeah,
- 10:27Speaker 2: by the way, that team in the East is just
- 10:28Speaker 2: gonna sweep through the first two rounds. You're not thinking that.
- 10:31Speaker 4: But to have a game four in a game too,
- 10:33Speaker 4: you're at least like, I.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Mean, seriously, I I just wonder how many things have
- 10:40Speaker 1: been changed, Like if ball Arena hosted a convention or something.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Those things get moved right for playoff games?
- 10:47Speaker 2: Sure, well, typically they clear out the schedule thinking that
- 10:51Speaker 2: both teams are gonna have opportunities to play at home.
- 10:54Speaker 2: That's why you don't have you know, the Backstreet Boys
- 10:57Speaker 2: coming right now, or Nicki Mian or whatever.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Sword conventions.
- 11:03Speaker 4: Sword conventions.
- 11:05Speaker 1: You've never been to a sword convention.
- 11:09Speaker 4: I can't say that I have. You never had the pleasure.
- 11:11Speaker 2: You know, who would go to a sword convention, the
- 11:15Speaker 2: Highlander sword convention.
- 11:17Speaker 1: That's just what Mos calls Friday Night.
- 11:19Speaker 4: But you know.
- 11:23Speaker 2: It's pretty good. I like that. The reason all those
- 11:28Speaker 2: all those flute jokes, they've wrapped up into one.
- 11:32Speaker 3: The reason why I brought up Hey, if you were
- 11:36Speaker 3: speaking to a wild fan, what would you say?
- 11:38Speaker 4: Is because of this.
- 11:40Speaker 3: I enter this game thinking to myself, the Avs have
- 11:43Speaker 3: the better goal attending in this series. And the one
- 11:47Speaker 3: concern that you truly had about the Aps heading into
- 11:51Speaker 3: the postseason was the hell are there is their power
- 11:56Speaker 3: play going to look like? And now you have this
- 11:58Speaker 3: weird combination of power play looks good and Minnesota's penalty
- 12:04Speaker 3: kill in the playoffs is operating a fifty nine point
- 12:08Speaker 3: seven percent, which is garbage. So where do they find
- 12:14Speaker 3: the advantage?
- 12:14Speaker 1: And Nelly brought it up.
- 12:15Speaker 3: He goes, well, what if they go full you know
- 12:17Speaker 3: Philadelphia from last night and just start hooking with you?
- 12:21Speaker 3: And my whole thought process to it, because I know
- 12:24Speaker 3: that this is a part of hockey is when you
- 12:27Speaker 3: kind of see the riding on the wall, it's your
- 12:29Speaker 3: only card to play. It is an admission. Like to me,
- 12:34Speaker 3: I think it makes you look pretty weak.
- 12:38Speaker 2: See you full on you're.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Admitting to the opposing team. I can't beat you doing
- 12:45Speaker 3: the actual sport that we're doing.
- 12:47Speaker 4: So this is the only thing I got.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Now. Now, now, you guys are just making me mad
- 12:51Speaker 1: again about the Nuggets tea Wolve series, because in hockey
- 12:55Speaker 1: there are actual wols in place where if you do
- 12:58Speaker 1: get bumpy like that, if you if you do decide
- 13:01Speaker 1: to go that route, the other team gets a power play.
- 13:06Speaker 1: The other team can hurt you in I don't think
- 13:07Speaker 1: Minnesota in the wild they want to go on special
- 13:10Speaker 1: teams at this point because they're special teams are the
- 13:12Speaker 1: reason they're losing the series. If you if you're in
- 13:15Speaker 1: a parade to the penalty box that you're going to
- 13:17Speaker 1: lose to this seat, that would be a problem.
- 13:19Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 13:19Speaker 1: So in hockey, there's actually a built in rule for
- 13:23Speaker 1: anger and physicality. It's called the power play, which leads
- 13:26Speaker 1: me to wonder, why in the hell did the Nuggets
- 13:31Speaker 1: not get more physical immediately? There is no power play
- 13:35Speaker 1: in the NBA.
- 13:35Speaker 2: You can get.
- 13:36Speaker 1: Fouls, who cares, there's no power play. If you want
- 13:39Speaker 1: to get physical in the NBA. If somebody's hard charging
- 13:42Speaker 1: on the baseline ready to dunk, and you decide now
- 13:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw your body into the second row. Okay,
- 13:50Speaker 1: no power play.
- 13:53Speaker 4: Three h three five oh four oh nine two five.
- 13:55Speaker 3: There is a press conference at eleven o'clock with Kronky
- 13:59Speaker 3: tenser in one, followed immediately eleven thirty by David Adaman's
- 14:03Speaker 3: press conference. We'll carry those live here on Altitude Sports
- 14:06Speaker 3: Radio ninety two.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Actually, I think they're all going to speak at the
- 14:08Speaker 1: same time.
- 14:09Speaker 4: Now, Oh, they're all together, I believe, So.
- 14:11Speaker 1: We'll find out. We'll be carrying it live. Katie and
- 14:14Speaker 1: I are going to be down there. I might have
- 14:16Speaker 1: to leave this show a little early, but we'll be
- 14:18Speaker 1: carrying it live on Altitude Television. Well, either way, it
- 14:21Speaker 1: to be live here in ninety two five as well.
- 14:23Speaker 1: At least most of this are you asking why? Are
- 14:26Speaker 1: you asking why I have to leave a little early?
- 14:28Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not I know why, all right.
- 14:31Speaker 1: The guy who leaves early go to skate is asking
- 14:34Speaker 1: me why I have to leave early? Possibly, and I'm
- 14:37Speaker 1: not saying I will. Possibly the guy who leaves an
- 14:41Speaker 1: hour early because he's got to pick up his his beehive.
- 14:48Speaker 4: What you set yourself up for this one?
- 14:50Speaker 2: You knew? I don't I had? You're talking about Game two?
- 14:54Speaker 2: I had to.
- 14:54Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine. Whatever.
- 14:58Speaker 3: We'll be carrying this live right here on nine at
- 15:00Speaker 3: eleven o'clock this morning. So here's something else I want
- 15:05Speaker 3: to talk about. What you think the responses are going
- 15:07Speaker 3: to be from these guys at the press today along
- 15:09Speaker 3: with Scotty called us me me out yesterday you specifically
- 15:14Speaker 3: specifically all right for a take that I had about
- 15:16Speaker 3: the Nuggets.
- 15:17Speaker 4: We'll get to it next, all right, So.
- 15:34Speaker 3: David Caruso CSI Miami. Anytime I hear that sound, it's
- 15:38Speaker 3: time to see why the pool boy was murdered. Whatever
- 15:42Speaker 3: happened to that dude, David Caruso.
- 15:44Speaker 1: He birthed Alex Caruso.
- 15:47Speaker 4: And now you know what Dave's looking at? A picture
- 15:51Speaker 4: looks a little rough.
- 15:52Speaker 2: You know what's interesting about that guy? Once he got
- 15:55Speaker 2: into that show, he became like a totally It's like
- 15:57Speaker 2: Eddie Vedder once old Jim got famous. Eddie Vedder went
- 16:02Speaker 2: from hey, what's going on in Eddievedder? How you doing?
- 16:04Speaker 2: It's like Jeremy and this David Caruso. Guy, if you
- 16:10Speaker 2: watched from his early things, like, hey, did he gets
- 16:13Speaker 2: on the TV show? Yeah? Gotta yeah, you know what?
- 16:19Speaker 2: Who got the pool Boy?
- 16:20Speaker 3: I watched so many of those episodes, and I gotta
- 16:25Speaker 3: tell you he was not cool.
- 16:27Speaker 2: He thought he was cool. He was not cool.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Their ability to do that, I take my glasses off
- 16:31Speaker 3: where I put my glasses on right before the cut
- 16:33Speaker 3: scene to the intro and that little one liner thing
- 16:37Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, a diehard vibe to it.
- 16:44Speaker 3: He kicks some guy into a freezer.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Cool off like one of those things.
- 16:48Speaker 3: You know, it's just so freaking Yeah, yeah, a pun
- 16:52Speaker 3: everything's a pun Mars.
- 16:54Speaker 1: But it was fantastic. You gotta do something where he
- 16:56Speaker 1: goes looks like the wave isn't the only thing about
- 17:00Speaker 1: to hit Miami. Wow? Yeah, I mean every time.
- 17:03Speaker 3: It's just that I can't remember though, that's he would
- 17:06Speaker 3: put his glasses on though, walk.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Away We eat the New Dork, Yeah, the same as
- 17:11Speaker 2: the old Dork. All right?
- 17:12Speaker 3: So, uh about these press conferences coming up at eleven
- 17:16Speaker 3: o'clock this morning. I think there's two tones that are
- 17:20Speaker 3: that could be taken, and these are very different from
- 17:23Speaker 3: one another. One is that didn't work. That didn't work.
- 17:30Speaker 3: The other is this isn't working, and I don't know
- 17:33Speaker 3: which which direction they're gonna go. That didn't work would
- 17:37Speaker 3: mean this, hey man. We thought we put together a
- 17:41Speaker 3: championship roster. Injuries galore, couldn't find chemistry during the regular season,
- 17:46Speaker 3: couldn't find the right rotations because we didn't have time
- 17:48Speaker 3: with healthy players. Then the postseason hit and AG was
- 17:51Speaker 3: out and c B was hurt, and Peyton Watson didn't play.
- 17:54Speaker 4: That's what that didn't work.
- 17:56Speaker 1: To be fair, to be fair, and I know we're
- 17:59Speaker 1: gonna get this today.
- 18:00Speaker 2: We all thought they.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Put together a championship roster. Yes, there was no error
- 18:04Speaker 1: in what they did in the offseason. We all believed
- 18:07Speaker 1: and I'm looking at all of you, not just us
- 18:09Speaker 1: on the show, all of you. We all believed that
- 18:11Speaker 1: the Nuggets had the makeup for a championship roster type team.
- 18:15Speaker 1: We saw it, we said it, we were excited about it.
- 18:18Speaker 1: We called it the best roster top to bottom in
- 18:20Speaker 1: Nuggets history. We all were there. We all caught that bug.
- 18:24Speaker 4: And I'm the first to tell you this.
- 18:28Speaker 3: I think in a different universe where you didn't have
- 18:31Speaker 3: this amount of injuries. This season looks a lot different
- 18:34Speaker 3: and maybe they're still turned that off.
- 18:37Speaker 4: Mosher and.
- 18:40Speaker 3: I think in a different universe where you didn't have
- 18:42Speaker 3: all those injuries throughout the season, they had time to
- 18:44Speaker 3: build chemistry with one another, guys were healthier in the postseason.
- 18:47Speaker 3: This looks a lot different, and maybe it is sort
- 18:50Speaker 3: of more the way we envisioned it before the season started.
- 18:53Speaker 3: But that's what that didn't work means. This isn't working
- 18:58Speaker 3: is another context, because that means we need to change
- 19:02Speaker 3: it all. This isn't working means whatever we had beforehand
- 19:07Speaker 3: right no longer can we roll along with it correct
- 19:11Speaker 3: And that would mean guys like we always say, there
- 19:14Speaker 3: was a major change last year in trading Michael Porter Junior.
- 19:17Speaker 3: And he was a core piece to a championship team,
- 19:20Speaker 3: very important to your success. But let's be honest, Michael
- 19:23Speaker 3: Porter Junior was a role player. He was a good
- 19:26Speaker 3: role player, an important role player, but a role player.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Did you see what you're talking about? Did you see
- 19:31Speaker 2: what he said yesterday? I did, but we'll get to
- 19:34Speaker 2: it in a bit. I understood.
- 19:36Speaker 3: But if you're talking about trading Jamal, that's changing the
- 19:41Speaker 3: DNA of your team. That's that is I don't know
- 19:44Speaker 3: if you want to call it starting over, but starting
- 19:47Speaker 3: a new one hundred percent.
- 19:49Speaker 4: No, I mean it really is because he's been such a.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Huge part of this franchise, a valuable member of this
- 19:58Speaker 2: team when it's a team plays like a team. He's
- 20:01Speaker 2: been terrific, incredibly important. That's all. Again, that was a
- 20:06Speaker 2: situation where if he's injured, oh my god, I can't
- 20:09Speaker 2: believe it. But for the powers that be, he's a
- 20:12Speaker 2: fire and forget you know, he's there at the two
- 20:14Speaker 2: period or the one period. End of story could switch
- 20:19Speaker 2: over if you wants to, but he's just there with
- 20:20Speaker 2: with fifteen and that's it. That's it.
- 20:24Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, this is interesting, MPJ.
- 20:26Speaker 3: It's actually says MPJ said that McDaniels would have had
- 20:28Speaker 3: to guard him instead of Jamal.
- 20:30Speaker 4: He's probably right on that. No, you don't think so, No, Well,
- 20:34Speaker 4: who would.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Have guarded him. It wouldn't have been McDaniel's. Mcganns would have
- 20:37Speaker 1: been on Jamal. Now he's wrong, Okay, nope.
- 20:47Speaker 2: I mean it can't be sure, but you could take
- 20:49Speaker 2: an educated well, it is like.
- 20:50Speaker 3: I think in his mind he's probably thinking I'm six
- 20:53Speaker 3: foot ten, I was.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Taller than Jamal. Why didn't Why didn't he cover Cam?
- 20:57Speaker 2: Then?
- 21:00Speaker 3: Maybe MPG is seen as more dangerous than Cam. I
- 21:03Speaker 3: mean Cam had a decent final game.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't want to this revisionist history
- 21:09Speaker 1: that if Michael Porter Junior had been here, this series
- 21:12Speaker 1: would be different. No. I we saw that play out.
- 21:15Speaker 1: We saw a playout two years ago when he was here. No,
- 21:18Speaker 1: I love the guy. I have more respect for you.
- 21:21Speaker 1: But no, it doesn't change. That's not why they lost.
- 21:25Speaker 1: It's not I do not think this is so.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Somebody says trading Jamal is like getting rid of Miko Ranton,
- 21:31Speaker 2: and it's not. It's not. Trading Jamal would be like
- 21:35Speaker 2: trading Nathan McKinnon.
- 21:38Speaker 3: I actually don't mind that, I think, but that's not like, No,
- 21:44Speaker 3: I disagree. I do you think Miko is a all right,
- 21:49Speaker 3: Hang on a second. Miko is a very good player, right,
- 21:53Speaker 3: and you need to say it out loud it's radio.
- 21:55Speaker 2: Oh.
- 21:56Speaker 4: Absolutely, he was not the best player on your team.
- 22:00Speaker 2: That is correct.
- 22:02Speaker 4: Nathan McKinnon won an MVP moje that's not Jamal No.
- 22:06Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm talking about the absolute core of the core.
- 22:10Speaker 4: I think he is like Miko.
- 22:12Speaker 3: Miko had moments where he was brilliant in times where
- 22:14Speaker 3: he disappeared. That sounds a lot like Jamal to me,
- 22:17Speaker 3: all right.
- 22:18Speaker 2: You're not You're not understanding what I'm saying.
- 22:21Speaker 4: Okay, then explain.
- 22:22Speaker 1: It to me.
- 22:22Speaker 2: There have been two untradables forever. For the Denver Nuggets,
- 22:27Speaker 2: I say forever, this incarnation of the Denver Nuggets. Who
- 22:31Speaker 2: are they?
- 22:33Speaker 4: It's for the Nuggets, it was Joker and Jamal.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Okay, for the Avalanche, who are the two untradables McKinnon
- 22:40Speaker 2: and macar Okay.
- 22:42Speaker 4: After you won the Cup?
- 22:43Speaker 3: Miko Ranton and was untradable until you lost for a
- 22:47Speaker 3: few years. You cannot deny that they were not trading
- 22:50Speaker 3: Miko Ranton and until they want to come.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Until he tried to bend you over a barrel for
- 22:53Speaker 2: a truckload of money that he woke. The same money
- 22:56Speaker 2: got other places.
- 22:57Speaker 3: So the point is he was untradable until he made
- 23:01Speaker 3: himself tradable.
- 23:03Speaker 1: All right, Enough with the comps, what what's the point here?
- 23:06Speaker 2: The st you stopped comping hogs.
- 23:10Speaker 4: Here's the other thing.
- 23:10Speaker 3: And I want to play this because I don't know
- 23:12Speaker 3: what Scotty said somebody said he called.
- 23:13Speaker 4: I guess it was me out yesterday about the Nuggets.
- 23:17Speaker 4: I want to hear this. Have you ever heard the
- 23:18Speaker 4: Appetizer with Brett Kane?
- 23:19Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 23:19Speaker 2: I heard it the other boy she loves and maybe
- 23:23Speaker 2: you probably shouldn't talk basketball on that show.
- 23:27Speaker 1: That's what you were thinking.
- 23:28Speaker 4: What did you hear Brett say about basketball? That just
- 23:32Speaker 4: made you think that we talked about earlier?
- 23:34Speaker 2: He goes, what, why did you just go to the bench? Who?
- 23:38Speaker 2: What do you want?
- 23:38Speaker 1: Owl?
- 23:41Speaker 2: Somebody needs to be an owl on that show.
- 23:42Speaker 4: There's nobody on the bench that you would have gone to.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Who who I would listen?
- 23:49Speaker 4: Okay, then then listen Scotty. Send this to the show.
- 23:52Speaker 4: Send this to him. I've been very clear.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Help record this.
- 23:57Speaker 3: There's one case, specifically in which I would have went
- 24:00Speaker 3: to the bench when Christian Brown was so hurt that
- 24:05Speaker 3: I thought he looked unplayable. You could have put Julian
- 24:10Speaker 3: Strather in to try and infuse some sort.
- 24:12Speaker 4: Of offense because you couldn't score.
- 24:14Speaker 3: And say what you want about Strather, I know his
- 24:16Speaker 3: whole game isn't something that you totally trust. Maybe he's
- 24:19Speaker 3: not great defensively. I know that guy would shoot. I
- 24:23Speaker 3: know he hit a floater, and I know that Christian Brown,
- 24:26Speaker 3: with whatever percentage he was playing at the last four
- 24:29Speaker 3: games of that series was terrible and it would have
- 24:32Speaker 3: been better than whatever that was.
- 24:35Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some props here because I disagree
- 24:39Speaker 1: with Scott on this. I think just playing it straight
- 24:42Speaker 1: up was the worst thing you could do. You were
- 24:44Speaker 1: lacking offense. You were lacking that defense offense, So what's
- 24:48Speaker 1: wrong with injecting more offense. You can't be You can't say, well,
- 24:52Speaker 1: this kid in Game six against OKC came off the bench,
- 24:56Speaker 1: scored fifteen points, helped you win that game to extend
- 24:59Speaker 1: that series. Remember that? Do we remember that? And then
- 25:02Speaker 1: suddenly say he can't play. You can't have it both ways.
- 25:09Speaker 1: I saw him play against San Antonio in the last
- 25:12Speaker 1: game of the season and he played pretty damn well.
- 25:15Speaker 3: Look, and I'm not saying this was a magic bullet
- 25:18Speaker 3: to win you the series or get back or whatever.
- 25:20Speaker 1: And it may not have worked.
- 25:21Speaker 4: It might not have, but I know what didn't work,
- 25:25Speaker 4: what you were doing. What you were doing didn't work.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Christian Brown going out there the last four games and
- 25:31Speaker 3: putting up two, eight, nine and three points all on
- 25:34Speaker 3: about twenty nine minutes a night. That doesn't help you
- 25:37Speaker 3: at all at all.
- 25:39Speaker 1: The question that listen, if you're gonna ask questions today,
- 25:44Speaker 1: the one question I would love to ask. And these
- 25:46Speaker 1: are tough because hindsight questions are the worst. Right Coaches
- 25:50Speaker 1: roll their eyes, gms roll their eyes. Hell, I would
- 25:53Speaker 1: roll my eyes. But the question that, in hindsight, what
- 25:58Speaker 1: would you have done differently in that in hindsight?
- 26:03Speaker 2: Make more buckets?
- 26:04Speaker 1: Answer that question?
- 26:05Speaker 2: How about that? Vic? How about put the ball in
- 26:07Speaker 2: the hoop?
- 26:08Speaker 1: Answer the question like you're you're running the nuggets in hindsight?
- 26:12Speaker 1: What would you have done differently in that series? Now
- 26:15Speaker 1: that you see it as a whole, and it can't
- 26:18Speaker 1: be well, it helps if we're not injured because they
- 26:21Speaker 1: were injured. Yeah, can't use that well.
- 26:23Speaker 2: The players Vick could have responded themselves after being publicly
- 26:27Speaker 2: called out by a role So what's the number one Minnesota,
- 26:32Speaker 2: what's the number one thing you would have done differently
- 26:35Speaker 2: in that series? Well, you can't. You can't instill personal
- 26:39Speaker 2: pride into guys if they don't have it or they
- 26:41Speaker 2: don't want it, you can't do that.
- 26:42Speaker 3: I like I said, I think there's somebody that would
- 26:46Speaker 3: have brought at least a little bit of that presence,
- 26:50Speaker 3: and it's Jonas Valancionis. And he played ten minutes in
- 26:53Speaker 3: Game five, I think he had. He was four or
- 26:59Speaker 3: four from the field, nine points something like that. Brought
- 27:02Speaker 3: some physicality. He was the one who bumped to Jaden
- 27:05Speaker 3: McDaniels got in his face a little bit in that game.
- 27:07Speaker 3: It was a rough first couple of minutes for Jonus.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Admittedly turned the ball over, foul stuff like that, but
- 27:14Speaker 3: once he got through that, it was okay. But again,
- 27:17Speaker 3: if you're talking about guys who were playing through injury,
- 27:21Speaker 3: and the most frustrating thing to me going back to
- 27:24Speaker 3: last year is that you had a Game seven against
- 27:27Speaker 3: OKC where you didn't have.
- 27:30Speaker 4: The depth at all.
- 27:31Speaker 3: You had nobody you could go to off the bench,
- 27:33Speaker 3: and you were forced to play Michael Porter Junior couldn't
- 27:35Speaker 3: lift his arm above his shoulder, and Aaron Gordon on
- 27:39Speaker 3: a Grade two hamstring strain and Russell Westbrook with a
- 27:42Speaker 3: broken hand because you didn't trust anybody else. This year,
- 27:46Speaker 3: you invested the offseason in depth and then the playoffs
- 27:50Speaker 3: started and you really didn't use it.
- 27:52Speaker 1: I just don't buy that. You can't you know who
- 27:54Speaker 1: can you trust on the bench argument that Scott brings
- 27:57Speaker 1: up because I just saw this team go ten and
- 27:59Speaker 1: six in the month January when they played exclusively bench players.
- 28:03Speaker 1: I'm not buying it.
- 28:04Speaker 3: And it wasn't always pretty, admittedly, like it wasn't always
- 28:07Speaker 3: pretty when they were in but it's like, I want
- 28:10Speaker 3: some guys are gonna go out there and compete and
- 28:11Speaker 3: give him a few minutes and see what's gonna happen.
- 28:13Speaker 3: In the case of Strawther, like I watched Christian Brown
- 28:17Speaker 3: for four straight games not look himself and it very
- 28:19Speaker 3: clearly was injured. It took one one highlight one replay
- 28:25Speaker 3: he went up for a dunk. I think it was early.
- 28:27Speaker 3: It was like Game three in most the ball like
- 28:30Speaker 3: when he went up to jump, he was by himself,
- 28:31Speaker 3: no contact, no pressure on him. He jumped and the
- 28:35Speaker 3: ball literally kind of rolled across the front of the rim.
- 28:38Speaker 3: I know, And I'm like, Christian Brown jumps above the
- 28:41Speaker 3: back ball.
- 28:42Speaker 2: Agreed.
- 28:42Speaker 1: So, And the other thing is this, you can't you
- 28:46Speaker 1: can't argue that the bench that there's nobody there. How
- 28:49Speaker 1: did they win Game five? What they do in Game five?
- 28:53Speaker 1: Played the bench who they played.
- 28:54Speaker 3: Specifically, they played Yonas, so Yonis got ten minutes, Hardaway
- 28:59Speaker 3: got twelve, Tighs got fourteen.
- 29:01Speaker 1: Jones who hadn't played at all. Yeah, minutes and it worked.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Vic.
- 29:05Speaker 3: We said it after after they got eliminated in Game six,
- 29:08Speaker 3: they go, when did the Nuggets offense?
- 29:09Speaker 4: Weirdly? When did the Nuggets offense look its best?
- 29:13Speaker 2: Ty Jones was.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Running the point.
- 29:14Speaker 2: I guess in hindsight, Vic, could you have moved Marie
- 29:17Speaker 2: to the two and played Jones? I don't know.
- 29:19Speaker 1: It's a question that I'm sure that they're asking themselves,
- 29:22Speaker 1: and you can bang your head against the wall asking
- 29:24Speaker 1: the questions. It's the worst question. It's the worst because
- 29:27Speaker 1: everybody who brought it up, I mean, I know, I know,
- 29:30Speaker 1: but it's the oddence brings up the paint is what
- 29:32Speaker 1: it does. It brings up the pain. It brings up again.
- 29:35Speaker 1: I will ask you guys in twenty twenty four when
- 29:38Speaker 1: they lost in seven to Minnesota, what would they have
- 29:41Speaker 1: done differently?
- 29:43Speaker 4: Hard for me to think back that far.
- 29:46Speaker 1: What was the argument? Why did they lose that game
- 29:49Speaker 1: the way they did? They ran higher gas?
- 29:51Speaker 4: Why because they didn't play in the bench and it
- 29:57Speaker 4: felt that way.
- 29:57Speaker 3: Early in the series too, was a Game two when
- 30:00Speaker 3: they kind of ran out of gas.
- 30:02Speaker 2: And then well yeah, then they got driven to the
- 30:04Speaker 2: rim every single time. And that's when Jade and Daniels
- 30:07Speaker 2: said what he said, and the rest is history.
- 30:09Speaker 4: I mean, think about it this way.
- 30:10Speaker 3: Now, their hand was forced into this, so I guess
- 30:12Speaker 3: it's a little bit different. But Minnesota went to Tarren
- 30:16Speaker 3: Shannon and now again hand was forced due to injury.
- 30:19Speaker 3: But this is kind of what I'm saying is I
- 30:22Speaker 3: watched Christian Brown. He looked injured, he looked like he
- 30:26Speaker 3: couldn't play.
- 30:27Speaker 1: And another thing, if the argument is who could we
- 30:30Speaker 1: go to they can't play, then what are we doing here?
- 30:32Speaker 1: If you can't rely on them and they can't play,
- 30:34Speaker 1: why are they here?
- 30:37Speaker 2: I don't know, Vic, I don't know. As we move
- 30:40Speaker 2: on here, can I give you? Can I give you
- 30:43Speaker 2: a little of Jeff made a real good point about
- 30:48Speaker 2: twenty minutes ago.
- 30:49Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna be David Caruz. Are you ready all right?
- 30:52Speaker 2: Tell me if this works, Vic, jesus everybody watching, tell
- 30:55Speaker 2: me if this works. See aside Miami. Yeah, we want
- 31:02Speaker 2: to catch the killer, but he better not catch his
- 31:06Speaker 2: death from school. Don't out here to catch your death.
- 31:13Speaker 3: You're just gonna walk away.
- 31:16Speaker 4: Ye didn't mind it.
- 31:19Speaker 2: I don't think it's not a ten, but okay with
- 31:23Speaker 2: Caruso at ten every time, don't out here to catch
- 31:26Speaker 2: your death.
- 31:27Speaker 3: The show is pretty good. They nailed it almost every episode.
- 31:29Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you.
- 31:30Speaker 4: It's the professional Hollywood Riders, not Jeff from the text Doll.
- 31:34Speaker 2: I was just.
- 31:39Speaker 1: I'm gonna go bleed out for a little bit here.
- 31:42Speaker 1: What huh? Yeah?
- 31:46Speaker 4: What does that mean?
- 31:48Speaker 1: It's gonna bleed out?
- 31:49Speaker 2: Okay, get them leeches, you have a good bleed.
- 31:55Speaker 4: I'm gonna bleed out, but you go into the swords store.
- 32:00Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, and I don't I'm
- 32:01Speaker 2: not sure. I want to know. That's kind of a
- 32:03Speaker 2: scary thing for you to say at this point in
- 32:04Speaker 2: the morning.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Don't miss Avalanche Game three tomorrow night at Stony's on
- 32:10Speaker 3: Lincoln without the Dude Sports Radio Playoff viewing Party Tour.
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- 32:18Speaker 3: have pregame with between the pipes starting at five and
- 32:20Speaker 3: DMAC hosting the party.
- 32:22Speaker 4: Everyone will be fired up.
- 32:23Speaker 3: We'll see It's Stony's on Lincoln tomorrow for Avs Game
- 32:26Speaker 3: three back after this.
- 32:27Speaker 4: All right, so game three.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Tomorrow for the Avs and the Wild, a desperate Wild
- 32:33Speaker 3: team that knows they need to win tomorrow.
- 32:35Speaker 4: I think all that is very obvious.
- 32:37Speaker 2: Now do you want to Are we gonna do keys
- 32:39Speaker 2: today or do you want me to just to kind
- 32:40Speaker 2: of throw them out there.
- 32:41Speaker 4: We can do keys a little bit later if you'd
- 32:43Speaker 4: like to.
- 32:44Speaker 3: But I want you to pause on that for a second,
- 32:47Speaker 3: because I do find this very interesting battle. The Lakers
- 32:52Speaker 3: are playing the Thunder, and it's two teams, one more
- 32:58Speaker 3: recently than the other, the other one for years that
- 33:01Speaker 3: have been accused of being the beneficiary of calls from
- 33:06Speaker 3: a rath.
- 33:07Speaker 2: Last night after the final buzzer was I meante picture
- 33:14Speaker 2: perfect of how I think a lot of us feel.
- 33:17Speaker 3: Go ahead, I am the first to tell you I
- 33:21Speaker 3: am disgusted by the way that the Oklahoma City Thunder
- 33:26Speaker 3: play basketball. I hate it, can't stand it. It's gross.
- 33:30Speaker 3: It is absolutely gross to watch, and it's made me
- 33:35Speaker 3: in watching these games.
- 33:38Speaker 4: Dare I say pull.
- 33:41Speaker 1: A little bit for the Lakers say that it's so funny.
- 33:45Speaker 1: I don't go that far, but I know that they're
- 33:48Speaker 1: not going to win this series. The Lakers, They're just
- 33:50Speaker 1: not They don't have enough. But I do find myself
- 33:53Speaker 1: at moments saying, just keep it close, test them. But
- 33:56Speaker 1: I love about this series. Here's what I love the
- 34:01Speaker 1: La Lakers and their lap dog appeal, which has been
- 34:06Speaker 1: the case for years. ESPN is basically LSPN, right, it's
- 34:11Speaker 1: a Laker Sports network. We've known this. The fact that
- 34:15Speaker 1: they've got this series between these teams has placed a
- 34:19Speaker 1: giant microscope, a huge hubble telescope on the Okac flopfest
- 34:26Speaker 1: and whistle issues that we have seen for the last
- 34:28Speaker 1: couple of years.
- 34:29Speaker 4: Yep, I love it.
- 34:30Speaker 1: Now everybody get your head inside that telescope and take
- 34:35Speaker 1: a look at what we have seen for the last
- 34:37Speaker 1: couple of years, because it's prominent, it's prevalent, and it
- 34:41Speaker 1: must be extinguished.
- 34:42Speaker 2: Dude, you are so right about that. I saw Austin
- 34:47Speaker 2: Reeves in a three flyby gets called for a foul
- 34:51Speaker 2: where you're like, it's the split leg, fall back, faky,
- 34:56Speaker 2: fake out crap.
- 34:58Speaker 6: Oh.
- 34:58Speaker 4: I can't stand that.
- 34:59Speaker 2: One, and I'm like this, this has got to be
- 35:01Speaker 2: out of the game. You have to rid yourselves of
- 35:04Speaker 2: this most and I would think, think, well, real quick,
- 35:06Speaker 2: the officials can't keep buying into this crap. But they
- 35:10Speaker 2: do every single time.
- 35:12Speaker 1: VIC The problem with Oklahoma City and only they're incredibly
- 35:19Speaker 1: biased fans and media members. I can openly tell you,
- 35:25Speaker 1: I will look into this camera and tell you the
- 35:28Speaker 1: Nuggets flop. There's a bunch of Joker flops. He flops
- 35:33Speaker 1: a lot. They're guys that flop. It's it's prevalent around
- 35:36Speaker 1: the NBA. I see it. You guys see it. They
- 35:40Speaker 1: refuse to acknowledge it. They won't even go there. Yeah,
- 35:44Speaker 1: they think it's part of the game. Jalen Williams last night,
- 35:49Speaker 1: the one that plays, not the one that's always dressed
- 35:50Speaker 1: in street clothes, the one that plays. Did you see
- 35:54Speaker 1: him kick out his right leg during that three point shot? Yes,
- 35:58Speaker 1: I put it on Twitter.
- 35:59Speaker 3: That's the But you're talking about the worst Jalen Williams. Yeah,
- 36:04Speaker 3: the one that Yeah, it's not the All Star. Yes,
- 36:08Speaker 3: that guy is just a big player on that team and.
- 36:11Speaker 1: He does it. Here's every lou Dort what he does defensively,
- 36:19Speaker 1: Alex car did you see Chad Holmgren pull a oscar Worthy?
- 36:24Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 36:24Speaker 1: Let me let mean kick my head back and pretend
- 36:26Speaker 1: that somebody literally shot me in the throat.
- 36:29Speaker 3: Let me give you differing perspectives on this. Here is
- 36:32Speaker 3: the perspective of Lakers head coach JJ Reddick.
- 36:35Speaker 7: Jj, youve got a technical in the first half. Multiple
- 36:38Speaker 7: players had really long, extended conversations with revs. What was
- 36:43Speaker 7: sort of at the core of those of those frustrations tonight?
- 36:46Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I sarcastically said the other day they
- 36:48Speaker 8: were the most disruptive team without fouling. I mean, they
- 36:51Speaker 8: have a few guys that foul on every possession and
- 36:53Speaker 8: all the good defenses. Do you know SGA gets like
- 36:56Speaker 8: a I don't even know a touch fowl. I guess
- 36:58Speaker 8: on the drive a stretch where four straight possessions, our
- 37:01Speaker 8: guys you got absolutely clobbered trying to make an entry
- 37:04Speaker 8: pass to Jackson and Jalen Williams is grabbing his jersey
- 37:07Speaker 8: with both arms. That's a turn, Like we just they're
- 37:11Speaker 8: hard enough to play. They're hard enough to play. You've
- 37:13Speaker 8: got to be able to just call it if they foul,
- 37:16Speaker 8: and they do foil.
- 37:17Speaker 3: So there's one perspective that's JJ Reddick. How about the
- 37:19Speaker 3: perspective of SGA.
- 37:21Speaker 6: The way basketball works, Usually the more physical team and
- 37:23Speaker 6: the more the team that impostes, there will more just wins.
- 37:26Speaker 6: And that's probably why we went tonight, probably why we
- 37:29Speaker 6: won last game. We did a good job, especially in
- 37:30Speaker 6: the second half, offully playing our style of basketball, being physical,
- 37:34Speaker 6: pressuring them make things uncomfortable.
- 37:36Speaker 1: It's not always true, because sometimes if you're more physical
- 37:39Speaker 1: and you get called for more whistles, it doesn't help.
- 37:41Speaker 1: It hurts, it hampers. It's not true. You can be
- 37:44Speaker 1: physical and send a message like I've proposed many times,
- 37:48Speaker 1: but you're gonna expect a whistle. They're physical and they
- 37:50Speaker 1: don't get a whistle. Do you understand the difference between
- 37:53Speaker 1: the two. Yes, you can be No, that's completely false. Man.
- 37:57Speaker 1: I cannot believe I'm a Green with JJ Reddick in
- 37:59Speaker 1: the lake. I cannot believe there's a part of me
- 38:02Speaker 1: looking at that matchup saying, oh my god, see but
- 38:05Speaker 1: last night, guys, I found myself. I don't know if
- 38:08Speaker 1: you did. Lebron James was getting hammered, absolutely distra and
- 38:14Speaker 1: no call vic I I no calls. Are you kidding me?
- 38:18Speaker 2: I saw the Lakers surround the officials after the game.
- 38:21Speaker 2: The front page of ESPN has a perfect picture of it.
- 38:25Speaker 2: They're all just like gathered around them in a in
- 38:28Speaker 2: a barrier most and I'm like, that is the That
- 38:31Speaker 2: is the perfect symbol of what this is all about.
- 38:35Speaker 2: Against OKAC. They're they're fuming mad and they got another
- 38:38Speaker 2: blowout loss. But they're not wrong. They're not wrong, is
- 38:41Speaker 2: the thing. They're not not just us.
- 38:43Speaker 1: That's the thing. Everybody has to understand something. It's not
- 38:45Speaker 1: just us. The entire league sees it. Everybody. They are
- 38:51Speaker 1: the respect level for Oklahoma City right now from where
- 38:55Speaker 1: it was a year ago, This young, plucky team that played,
- 38:59Speaker 1: it's changed ed entirely. Do you guys see it or
- 39:02Speaker 1: am I just speaking out?
- 39:03Speaker 3: This series in particular is one. I mean you kind
- 39:07Speaker 3: of mentioned it, Vic. That's gonna put the highlight on it,
- 39:10Speaker 3: because there's never been a time where the league, who
- 39:15Speaker 3: is not a fan of either one of these teams
- 39:17Speaker 3: has come together as one and agreed, Wow, the Lakers
- 39:22Speaker 3: are really getting hosed on the foul part of this thing.
- 39:26Speaker 3: I've never heard anybody say that ever, it's always why
- 39:31Speaker 3: do the Lakers get every call?
- 39:33Speaker 4: Why are they always the beneficiary of the whistle?
- 39:35Speaker 2: And in this series, for years the numbers back that
- 39:39Speaker 2: up well, and for years the raw data back that up.
- 39:41Speaker 3: You said it, Vic Lebronival. People can't get it. Here's
- 39:44Speaker 3: jj about that.
- 39:45Speaker 8: Well, it gets cloppered on that that one, you know
- 39:48Speaker 8: with Jylen Williams coming over trying to block the shot
- 39:50Speaker 8: when he spun based on one door that was in
- 39:52Speaker 8: that stretch as well. Lebron has the worst whistle of
- 39:54Speaker 8: any star player I've ever seen. I mean I've been
- 39:56Speaker 8: with him two years now. Again, the smaller guys, because
- 39:59Speaker 8: they can be theatric they typically draw more fouls, and
- 40:03Speaker 8: the bigger players that are built like Lebrony, it's hard
- 40:07Speaker 8: for them. But he gets clobbered, and he got clobbered
- 40:09Speaker 8: again to night a bunch And that's not like a
- 40:12Speaker 8: new thing that's not specific to this crew or you
- 40:15Speaker 8: know this this series. He gets foult a lot. That
- 40:18Speaker 8: doesn't happen to me. Guy gets hit on the head
- 40:20Speaker 8: more than an eight player I've seen on drives and
- 40:22Speaker 8: it rarely gets called okay.
- 40:24Speaker 1: He makes an interesting point there and I've raised this
- 40:26Speaker 1: several times. I think the way SGA's built, the skinny
- 40:30Speaker 1: gangly arms, flatling, it attracts more fouls. It really does.
- 40:34Speaker 1: He's not built like a tank, right, so does acting though. Yeah,
- 40:38Speaker 1: but I mean the flame again, it's easier to pull
- 40:41Speaker 1: off when you're gangling. You got you got pieces going
- 40:44Speaker 1: everywhere that dude is. I'm telling you, whatever thespian school
- 40:48Speaker 1: he went to, he got to teach it when he's done,
- 40:51Speaker 1: because he's as good as it gets. And the league
- 40:53Speaker 1: as a whole, I don't know whatever happened several years
- 40:56Speaker 1: ago the NBA said they're going to start finding players
- 40:59Speaker 1: for flop. It was, you guys know what the flopping
- 41:02Speaker 1: gesture is in the NBA? By the way, yeah, very
- 41:05Speaker 1: rarely see it.
- 41:05Speaker 2: Something really is this? Yeah?
- 41:07Speaker 1: This, it's this with one hand. When you very rarely
- 41:12Speaker 1: see it. You don't see it many times. In fact,
- 41:14Speaker 1: I think in Nuggets games this year, I saw this
- 41:17Speaker 1: gesture maybe twice the entire season. Watching that game last night,
- 41:21Speaker 1: you could have pulled that gesture fourteen to fifteen times.
- 41:25Speaker 1: And until the league go back review these games, go
- 41:28Speaker 1: back and look at that Jalen Williams play. Watch him
- 41:31Speaker 1: take his right leg and kick it. You gotta find
- 41:34Speaker 1: these guys after the fan.
- 41:36Speaker 4: I agree, Hey, one thing here quickly.
- 41:39Speaker 3: As we're talking about flopping and flailing, there was a
- 41:41Speaker 3: guy before SGA that did it pretty well.
- 41:43Speaker 2: Who was it?
- 41:44Speaker 3: Who would you say, is the guy who flailed for
- 41:47Speaker 3: to get to the foulons?
- 41:52Speaker 2: Oh? James Hard Yeah, well Genobley was. I think I
- 41:55Speaker 2: think it all started with Ganobili Flopperton.
- 41:59Speaker 3: I need Nelly give me stat of the Day music please,
- 42:04Speaker 3: This from none other than Nick Wright of FS one
- 42:07Speaker 3: Oh God. Last night was James Harden's one hundred and
- 42:13Speaker 3: eighty second career playoff game. It was the thirty sixth
- 42:18Speaker 3: time he's had three or fewer made field goals. That
- 42:22Speaker 3: comprises nearly twenty percent of his career playoff games. It's
- 42:28Speaker 3: the forty sixth time he's had as many or more
- 42:33Speaker 3: turnovers than made field goals. That's a quarter of his
- 42:38Speaker 3: career playoff games. One fourth of James Harden's playoff games
- 42:44Speaker 3: he has had either as many or more turnovers than
- 42:47Speaker 3: made field goals.
- 42:48Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 42:51Speaker 4: How is that possible?
- 42:52Speaker 2: I don't know. That's crazy?
- 42:55Speaker 4: How is that possible?
- 42:56Speaker 1: Does it figure him out.
- 42:59Speaker 3: That's why this guy is considered one of the better
- 43:01Speaker 3: players of his generation.
- 43:03Speaker 4: I not one of the best, but better ones.
- 43:05Speaker 1: I mean, because those games don't translate to the playoffs,
- 43:07Speaker 1: the games that he plays.
- 43:10Speaker 4: That's why oh translates for Shay.
- 43:14Speaker 1: He gets it.
- 43:16Speaker 2: If you out in the parking lot, we have these poles, right,
- 43:20Speaker 2: light poles, and what's around the light pole?
- 43:22Speaker 4: Cement?
- 43:23Speaker 2: Right, If you're doing thirty miles an hour in a
- 43:26Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five grand to Reinal wagon and.
- 43:28Speaker 4: You hit one of those light poles, I know somebody
- 43:30Speaker 4: did it.
- 43:31Speaker 2: You do? Oh yeah, yeah, it's like bang. But if
- 43:35Speaker 2: you're doing thirty miles an hour in a little Honda
- 43:37Speaker 2: a chord, it looks Vick is totally right. It looks
- 43:40Speaker 2: a lot more dramatic and explosive because it's a little
- 43:43Speaker 2: Honda a chord. It's not some big station wagon. I'm
- 43:46Speaker 2: gonna say, and the bigger fellas in the League of
- 43:48Speaker 2: the Station Wagons. SGA is a Hondu a chord. So
- 43:52Speaker 2: when he fakes it or even does get sniffed, it's
- 43:56Speaker 2: everything flies off. The doors are off, the rear view mirror,
- 44:00Speaker 2: the airbags deploy, exactly. It looks awful.
- 44:05Speaker 1: My last thought on this, and it's very simple. We
- 44:07Speaker 1: are we're at a point in the NBA where the
- 44:10Speaker 1: product is becoming more WWE every day and you get
- 44:13Speaker 1: you guys know my thoughts on WWE and obviously, okay,
- 44:18Speaker 1: so we're going in that. We're going in that direction. A.
- 44:21Speaker 1: Either the league does something about it by imposing fines.
- 44:26Speaker 1: B Either the referees start calling it closer to the
- 44:29Speaker 1: vest like those referees in the EuroLeague do that's not happening.
- 44:34Speaker 1: Or C we stop watching or see the players themselves,
- 44:39Speaker 1: the players get together, which is never gonna happen, and
- 44:43Speaker 1: police themselves because this is player driven, it's money driven.
- 44:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, Vic, but I I specifically do
- 44:51Speaker 2: not tune into hardened games because I can't stand to
- 44:53Speaker 2: watch him play. So that's me.
- 44:56Speaker 3: So when we return, get back to the AVS game
- 44:59Speaker 3: three tomorrow
- 45:02Speaker 4: And you know what, well, let mos you do is
- 45:05Speaker 4: keys next