Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Laura Prietula, Deputy Chief Information Officer, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs
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- 0:29Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Health Care
- 0:31podcast recorded at the 9th annual health IT,
- 0:33digital health, and RCM conference in Chicago. I'm
- 0:35joined today by Laura Petula, deputy CIO at
- 0:38the department of veteran affairs.
- 0:41Laura, to get us started, can you please
- 0:42share a bit about yourself, your role, your
- 0:44background, and your organization?
- 0:46Sure. Thank you so much for inviting me
- 0:48here today. And, as you said, my name
- 0:50is Laura Petula, and I am the deputy
- 0:52chief information officer for the Department of Veterans
- 0:55Affairs, the electronic health record modernization integration office,
- 0:59also known as EHRM IO.
- 1:01I love to say that I am a
- 1:02geek. I'm a nerd, and I love being
- 1:04weird, and I embrace every single one of
- 1:06those,
- 1:07characteristics.
- 1:08I also love people, and I love to
- 1:10serve. And that's what draw what draws me
- 1:12a lot to the department.
- 1:14I've been in the IT space for over
- 1:1630 years, and over 20 of them, I
- 1:18spent at the Department of Veteran Affairs serving
- 1:20our beloved veterans.
- 1:22So as a self proclaimed nerd, somebody obviously
- 1:24with your ear down, like, listening to what's
- 1:26going on in the industry, you know, as
- 1:28I'm sure you're aware, AI adoption is exploding
- 1:30in health care.
- 1:31In your view, what's the most significant or
- 1:34promising application of this technology right now,
- 1:37And, how is this informing your organization's innovation
- 1:40strategy?
- 1:41So AI has woven its threads into the
- 1:44fabric of our lives since 19 fifties or
- 1:47or a little bit before that too.
- 1:49But what sets this era apart is the
- 1:51depth and breadth of its integration in today's
- 1:53world.
- 1:54We have huge challenges today in diverse environments,
- 1:57and so I think that AI is allowing
- 2:00us to help break some of those challenges
- 2:02and barriers.
- 2:04Like, for example, telehealth has brought them a
- 2:06lot of good changes. We can now reach
- 2:08people who are in rural communities who would
- 2:10have had to travel a 100 miles or
- 2:12more in order to receive care. So accessibility
- 2:15and some equity has also been brought to
- 2:17the table because of AI. And it has
- 2:19had a a profound impact on individuals
- 2:22like me.
- 2:23I have a chronic condition, and AI helps
- 2:26me monitor that and and and be able
- 2:28to coach myself to ensure that I am
- 2:30healthy. And many of these are are rule
- 2:33based products and services as well.
- 2:35But the impact of AI in health care
- 2:38extends beyond just reaching individual experiences.
- 2:42As I said, it is about breaking barriers,
- 2:44and also,
- 2:46I anticipate that the growth will continue.
- 2:49Some of the three concepts that I usually
- 2:51that I have
- 2:52is,
- 2:54I talk about empowering
- 2:56patients,
- 2:57sense making of data,
- 2:59and access to all patients. And so we
- 3:01will be empowering with AI capabilities and more,
- 3:04not just AI, AI in the general term,
- 3:07it's empowering patients to participate actively
- 3:10in their health environment, as well as their
- 3:12healthcare team. And since making of data and
- 3:15information so their patients, clinicians,
- 3:18and administrators
- 3:19can focus on defining the best strategies for
- 3:22the best healthcare outcomes, and finally,
- 3:24access to all patients,
- 3:26right, That regardless of their socioeconomic
- 3:29background or factors, location, or otherwise,
- 3:32we can be removing some of those physical
- 3:34barriers to health care and allow them to
- 3:36have a healthy life.
- 3:38So
- 3:39on a daily basis, health care leaders are
- 3:41managing greater and greater volumes of data on
- 3:44more devices across a growing number of health
- 3:46care settings and populations.
- 3:48In this complex environment, what clinical data integration
- 3:51tools or practices are you seeing drive improvements
- 3:53in patient outcomes and operations, and operations? And
- 3:56can you share an example or 2?
- 3:58So data is everywhere Mhmm. Today, and I
- 4:01love data. Right? Data has been one of
- 4:03the things that I've focused my career
- 4:05for for many years.
- 4:07And I believe that the greatest opportunities for
- 4:09data might be,
- 4:11is is how do we make it useful
- 4:13to clinicians, especially in the health care space.
- 4:16Right? How do we make it useful to
- 4:17clinicians,
- 4:18and how do we, also make it meaningful
- 4:21and with the highest quality that we can
- 4:23provide?
- 4:24So as you know, we're implementing an electronic
- 4:26health record a modernized electronic health record,
- 4:29and, we currently manage around 70 terabytes of
- 4:33information. So if you can think about that,
- 4:35it's about maybe 23,000
- 4:39high definition movies, you know, that can could
- 4:42get stored there every day. We have that.
- 4:44We manage that. We curate that. We make
- 4:46out of the quality, and we make sense
- 4:48of that data for for our clinicians. And
- 4:51one of those examples that we have in
- 4:52VA is, a a product, a combined product
- 4:56that we have, we call it VX 130,
- 4:59which is all of the information from our
- 5:01own medical centers. We have a 130 different
- 5:03medical centers.
- 5:05We put it out into one big place,
- 5:07and that's what we call VX 130.
- 5:10And that information
- 5:12now is being used for large language models.
- 5:15We curate it. We we we also bring
- 5:18it and make it avail available to our
- 5:20our physicians
- 5:21through a tool that we call Google.
- 5:23And Google basically allows you to
- 5:26search a patient and from that patient and
- 5:28all the these notes that you and it
- 5:31is across all of the longitudinal health record,
- 5:33and it tells you exactly
- 5:35what, diagnoses, what node, what lab result
- 5:38was exactly that around that talked about die
- 5:41diabetes. So that's making information
- 5:43meaningful
- 5:44to clinicians so that they don't have to
- 5:46be sifting through all sorts of data for
- 5:48hours to find out any of this information.
- 5:52So how can health care organizations better support
- 5:54IT and clinical teams as they carry out
- 5:56innovation efforts? And, what are some of the
- 5:59common pitfalls in this area?
- 6:01Well, so
- 6:02so with VA,
- 6:04we have a long history of many decades
- 6:07of innovation.
- 6:08So for me, one of my main goals
- 6:10as well is to make sure that not
- 6:12only people love the electronic health record, which
- 6:15is in itself a challenge because nobody loves
- 6:17their their EHRs,
- 6:18but I also wanna make sure that innovation
- 6:21is at the forefront of anything that we
- 6:23do. Not because we're implementing a a a
- 6:26COTS product are we going to stop innovating.
- 6:29We will need to continue to see
- 6:31how do we become the those enablers for
- 6:34the organization
- 6:35so that we can continue to ensure
- 6:38VA has that,
- 6:40innovation
- 6:41spirit and continues to deliver innovative solutions for
- 6:45our veterans and our clinical workforce.
- 6:48Out of curiosity, when it comes to adopting
- 6:50some of these
- 6:51newer technologies or innovations,
- 6:53how does that differ at, like, an organization
- 6:56like the VA versus a traditional health system?
- 6:59So if you can imagine, VA, we have,
- 7:02like I said, about a 132
- 7:04different medical centers. Right? The way that we
- 7:07grew up, and this goes to culture,
- 7:09in VA, we were all different organizations,
- 7:12let's say
- 7:1450 years ago, right, 40 years ago, where
- 7:16every one of those
- 7:19facilities grew up with their own culture, grew
- 7:21up with a
- 7:23a baseline of a product,
- 7:25but they each customized it to serve their
- 7:27needs. Like our our facilities,
- 7:30they know or whatever comes in because of
- 7:33the the work that we do, they might
- 7:35have come in when the the granddaughter was
- 7:38being born, and now the granddaughter is in
- 7:40college. Right? So all that cultural,
- 7:43understanding of who the veteran is, we need
- 7:46to take into consideration when you're implementing a
- 7:48modernized technology.
- 7:50You wanna make sure that you preserve the
- 7:52culture of caring and the culture of making
- 7:55sure that the patient is always at the
- 7:57center of everything that we do while at
- 7:59the same time making sure that our clinical
- 8:01staff can really transform the way that that
- 8:04they're doing work. So
- 8:06this is a massive undertaking,
- 8:09but the clinical community is really the one
- 8:11that is really changing the practices and standardizing
- 8:15the practices. So the clinical practices are changing.
- 8:18They are evolving.
- 8:19They're look looking and using new technologies.
- 8:22They're looking and and understanding
- 8:24what other concepts can they bring to the
- 8:27table.
- 8:28So I don't know that it is
- 8:30markedly different than a very large organization,
- 8:34that is trying to, change the the main
- 8:36difference, I think, is that
- 8:38VA grew from,
- 8:40if you would, islands
- 8:42of medical centers that they started to come
- 8:45in through the years. We started to centralize,
- 8:48and now we're starting to really modernize many
- 8:51of those technologies.
- 8:52Okay. I like that answer.
- 8:54What would you say your top piece of
- 8:55advice for health care leaders
- 8:57is as they prepare for, you know, further
- 8:59advancements in technology and greater demands for care?
- 9:03I would say that one of the main
- 9:06advices I would give
- 9:08is be diligent
- 9:10and be very, very disciplined.
- 9:12You wanna make sure that as you're
- 9:15bringing a new technology, as you transform an
- 9:18entire organization,
- 9:19that you know exactly
- 9:21who you're doing it with,
- 9:23not who you're doing it to, right, but
- 9:26who you're doing it with, how you're doing
- 9:27it, that you do have
- 9:30groups of people that are working with you
- 9:32to make these changes.
- 9:33Make sure that you have a really good
- 9:35process of identifying any changes,
- 9:39and documenting the changes and how those changes
- 9:42are going to be,
- 9:44used. One of the things that I've talked
- 9:46to all of my folks is always
- 9:48you know, many people look as to what
- 9:51are the resources you're gonna use, what are
- 9:52the activities that you're gonna do, and what
- 9:54are the outputs that you're gonna produce.
- 9:57We always want to extend that. We don't
- 9:59wanna get get stuck on the output. We
- 10:01wanna make sure that we actually look as
- 10:03to what is the outcomes that we're providing
- 10:06and what is the value that we're delivering.
- 10:08And so if you have that in mind,
- 10:10I think that your focus will always be
- 10:12towards doing the right things right and delivering
- 10:15the right things to the right folks. Mhmm.
- 10:17Mhmm.
- 10:18Well, Well, Laura, thank you so much again
- 10:19for joining us today on the Becker's Health
- 10:21Care podcast. It was an absolute pleasure, and
- 10:23I I hope you have a lovely rest
- 10:24of your day. Oh, thank you so very
- 10:25much.