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Calcio Carousel Serie A Matchday 27 - Is there a ref problem? Ep. 216 · The Calcio Guys

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  Controversy, controversy, and more controversy. It seems like that's the topic of
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  the city this week. On the count of guys with controversy one Johnny controversy
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  to Adriana and controversy three Nicholas. Hi, you guys doing the controversy.
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  Yeah, I mean, hey, I just I had a good weekend.
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  Man, I don't know. I don't know about any controvertions. You know,
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  you're your team. If I speak, I'm in trouble. No speak,
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  because if your teams certainly did have a good weekend, Jenny was able
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  to watch them for once in a long ass time. Yeah, you weren't
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  away this week. I thought you were away. You were here though,
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  So no, I got I got a new part time job that my friend
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  of mine runs a card shop here in Montreal and shout out to card brawlers
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  awesome. Uh, like like they're like he's an awesome owner because he's a
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  friend of mine and he's able to work around like my school schedule and ship
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  with the whole back and forth between here in Ottawa and Cornwall and everything.
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  So uh, basically on weekends we have like we have a TV setup.
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  Yeah, and actually passed by a yeah, and a friend of a show
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  actually passed by with his brother and stuff. On Saturday, they play some
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  cards at the shop and I was able to like just put the Roma game
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  on TV and on Sunday put the Napoly game. But Sunday was like a
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  very busy day, so I saw bits and pieces, but I still managed
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  to see the game. I didn't get to see too too much of We'll
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  get there when we get there, but but I did manage to see some
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  some of the game and be able to develop like some proper thoughts. I
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  check Johnny out on the on the weekend's grilling with questions about why he's the
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  worst two teams. I mean, I mean, guys, we might as
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  well start on a positive note. Since you're talking about that, I might
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  as well start with Manza Roma. The d Rossie effect is real, Like
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  he's come in, He's done a fantastic job. I don't know, I
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  forget what the exact numbers are how many games he's won, but there's eight
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  one and one. I think something like that, it's either seven to one
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  one. That's crazy, especially especially considering like he didn't have a good spell
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  at spall, you know, and that was his only other head coaching job,
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  right, if I remember correctly, he got thrown in. He got
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  thrown into the situation. Albeit it was their decision to bring it on.
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  But yeah, just he didn't take over a solid working squad. And I
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  think, you know, again, credit to Marino to bring them as far
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  as they did. And obviously he's a champion in Europe and he's just he's
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  an overall legend of a coach, so you got to give him his praise
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  there. But I think what there else he's been able to do, And
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  Johnny, you can correct us if we're wrong, but it's just been incredible
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  to watch, really bringing forward I think what ROMA stands for and what ROMA
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  is about, what it means to wear the shirt, and I think that
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  goes a long way. Maybe it's a band aid solution. I don't know,
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  We'll see how this end of the season summer goes, but I I
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  think, I think what that us he has brought to this to this club,
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  and even in his post game interviews, in his in his pregame interviews,
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  or just anytime he speaks. You know, the players really love to
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  play for him, and you know he's brought in that that that that fight
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  at Grena, and he's brought in players to another level that we haven't seen
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  all season. Obviously their captain in Paul Greeney really stepping up. I know
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  Johnny can attest to that, and even Dibala right when he's on, he's
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  on and he's really firing on all cylinders, which is encouraging to see because
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  he's the star of this league. And yeah, I don't know, Johnny,
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  I don't know. What do you what do you make of of Derossi?
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  And I know we've kind of spoken about it before, but like,
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  what do you like? What what's the like? What's the ultimate goal with
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  with with Asie? I guess just finishing as high as possible, I guess.
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  So, just like taking a look from before. Since he joined the
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  team on the sixteenth of January, he's played, he's he's managed played.
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  Wow, in my head, he's still a player. Holy shit. Uh.
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  He's managed ten games for the joss he including the friendly. They're eight
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  one and one. They they only lost one game and drew that. They
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  lost one game to uh Inter, which you know that's given the and it
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  was like as a four to two loss, and in that game they were
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  up in the after the first half to one, so you know that's just
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  them, like just being beaten by the one of the top three teams in
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  Europe. Right now, it has to be said, Uh, they tied
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  Faynor, but they beat them in this in the in the return leg in
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  penalty shots. So I guess like at ended one one, but I want
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  to consider penalty as a W. It's a W, but it's uh eight
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  one and one since uh, since he's taken over the team, I would
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  be completely honest and I will be completely honest, and I did not expect
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  this type of form to happen with dead Austine, not that I wanted him
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  to fail, not that I was like coping him to like not succeed to
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  like you know, like support Modinho because I enjoyed Marigno. Know we said
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  many times on the show, like I I enjoyed having Modinho as a manager
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  for Roma. Really helped change the culture and really like instill some confidence in
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  the players in a sense, like we they are a winning team. They're
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  no longer this middle tier team there are capable of doing well. I'm happy
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  that he's doing this. This is like there's just just it's been a surprise,
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  like a happy surprise, like a good one. I'm not saying that
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  he's a terrible manager just because like you know, at SPA, you know,
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  didn't have a good didn't have a good run. He he like like
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  he had a great job being like an assistant manager for the for the the
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  Adzuiti, UH in the Euros and UH. I think that's where probably the
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  difference maker is if you look at the trend right the Azuiti and then Roma
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  teams that he's passionate for, teams that he know he holds close in his
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  heart. He's got like one hundred and sixteen caps for the national team or
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  something like that. It's a crazy like it's a high number, like the
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  man like this is his home and he and it's a team that he It
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  would eat out his soul if he sees that the team does poorly under him.
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  So he obviously has a lot of internal pressure when he's managing his team,
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  but he's definitely like given revival to players like Bellagarini who's needed it so
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  badly. Uh. He was the player that last year phenomenal. This year
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  was was a shadow of himself and the alsutly just managed to find find find
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  that untapped energy in him that has been hiding. So really happy about that.
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  Going forward to answer that final part of your question, I don't know
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  it's weird because it's I feel like it's like the Nyeti effect where it's like,
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  you know, like he's here just just to maintain the ship, hold
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  it steady towards to the end of the season and then see from there.
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  I mean, like I said that Austin's been doing very well so far.
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  If I was him, I mean like I'd be stuck in between do I
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  want to stay or you know, maybe just get a little bit more experienced
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  underneath my wings before continuing like it's it's hard because there's a lot of pressure
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  managing Roma, especially when you're a legend of the club, you know,
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  and you're a legend to a lot of Italians too, because it just seems
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  like you have that winning attitude and spirit and especially like a lot of the
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  players on the roster, you know, they have that some of them have
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  that stark quality like the balla and when Lukaku has it on, he has
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  it on type of thing. You know. So there's players like that that
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  you need to like know that like under de Nassi, where they continue to
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  flourish. Like so far it's been going okay, but like obviously we have
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  to see what happens if they hit some bumps in the road, Like how
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  do they react and how do they you know, manage it. I think
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  that's why one of the reasons even though like they want the Scudetto, like
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  Ronaldo didn't work under Sadi because I don't think he actually respected Sadi. Not
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  that I'm not saying that Saddi is a terrible manager, like the guy won
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  Europa League. The guys want to Scudetto, you know, like the he
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  does whatever he can. I just think, you know, Ronaldo under Pilo
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  is a different Ronaldo and Ronaldo under Sadi. Same thing with the star players,
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  right like, like if they don't respect the manager that's managing them.
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  I'm not saying that they that they don't, they will play differently. So
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  we'll see comes summertime. I hope he stays. So far, it's been
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  going very well. The only loss that you experience is basically to the team
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  that you expected to lose to, so that for me, it's not a
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  disappointment. I studied the ship they can hit top four at this point,
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  like it's looking much more realistic than it was before. Your four points points
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  how many points back? Four points back? Four yeah, four points back,
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  So it's looking much more realistic than it did ten games ago. Ten
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  games ago, is like if they make if they make Conference League, I'll
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  be happy, you know. It's uh, it's uh. We were talking
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  about them like I think it might have been the first season where I don't
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  see any of my teams finish in the top four. Now it looks like
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  uh, with with not just Roma, even when anopoly, there's a potential
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  that maybe one of them actually squeezes in. But we'll see. I think
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  also, what Roma has an advantage, and we've talked about this with Bologna
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  too, is there's a possibility for that fifth spot next year. I forget
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  exactly how it works. I think there's the whole uefa Quoe efficient, but
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  with the expanded Champions League, there could be five Italian teams next year,
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  so that fifth spot you still want to fight for it even of course,
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  of course Roma wants to have goal uh to get into fourth. But you
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  know, if they finished fifth and still get into into the Champions League,
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  it's it's a consolation, you know. And I mean Bologna four points up.
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  I don't know if they I don't know if they stop the play each
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  other again, Jenny, do you know that they if they played twice or
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  not against each other. April twenty first, in row first, April twenty
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  first weekend, that's a big weekend, that weekend. I got your way
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  up, he says, April twentieth on my screen here. Yeah, the
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  schedule is not out yet the exact time and indeed, okay, this is
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  Google, says April twenty first, tvd MI. Mine says, April twentieth.
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  Okay, well that weekend, yeah, the weekend afterwards on my brother's
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  birthday, and not played Omadla Jannine, our favorite day. Fift Bologna did
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  did beat Roma to nothing back on December seventeenth, So yeah, it's it's
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  gonna be that would be interesting. But a Bologna to one against Atalanta.
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  Atalanta has been slipping a bit. They're they're back in six now, so
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  Roma did get past them. Atalanta has lost the last two games. Uh,
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  and then further down Napolis cut up there in seventh you got Farentina and
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  eighth it's a bit tight there and then Latso in ninth. Pretty much I
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  wouldn't call Latcho out of the European race, but the way they're playing,
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  like, I mean, we we had this whole game against Milan three red
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  cards, you know, Latcho got as many red cards as Milan got points,
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  so which was pretty crazy. And then they go out and lose through
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  nothing to Byron, which you know, you can't hate on them as Byron.
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  I know Byron's not going through the best period right now. But you
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  know, whatever, I think when we talked about the Champions League and previewed
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  these round of sixteen games, we all said Byron would win, they lost.
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  They lost. They you know, they saw the semifinals against Juventus and
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  Kopietalia. You know, I'm sure they're focused on that. I'm sure whatever,
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  Sady. It feels like it's time's coming to an end, as it
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  always does at the end of the season. So we'll see. But we
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  might as well talk about that. That Latso Melon game of the famous game
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  incredibly like I said, three red cards for Peligreen in the fifty seventh minute,
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  for my restitch in the ninety fourth, then get new Z in the
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  ninety sixth. Melon comes away with the one thing way with for goal in
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  eighty Adri like, I don't know, if you have the chance to watch
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  it, you're the Melon fan here take it away. Yeah, unfortunately not
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  Polly. I mean, the schedule is this this game on a Friday,
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  and I guess they forgot that people work during the week outside of Italy.
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  So I didn't watch it in full. I watched a bit of it quite
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  most of the end after in highlights and stuff like that. But uh,
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  yeah, you know, the pandemonium was the pandemonium. I think borring and
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  barring the bells, you know, disaster class and in terms of officiating,
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  and yeah, we're gonna slop him on the wrist and and and suspend them
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  for a month and and whatever, but you'll be back in action after that,
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  you know. I think I think it should have been besides all the
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  all the chaos, I think Milon maybe created created enough to you know,
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  say that you know that they could have deserved the win regardless of of the
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  Shenanian one. Nothing in the final result, like you said, Nick Okaford,
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  the super sub coming on and scoring a big goal, because it was
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  as it was winding down and they worked more and more as if there was
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  gonna be another case of being able to draw points. Uh in a in
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  a in the time of the season where you don't want to draw points.
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  You know, you see your your your course rivals in the table, not
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  on the best form, mosing points themselves, so you kind of want to
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  stay the course and maybe have a chance to to pass them. You know.
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  I think there there was there was opportunities on both sides that that that
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  should have went in and had chances lels goal. Obviously that was offside,
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  rightfully, So from from the images that I saw the immobile a chance in
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  front of goal, I thought, you know, you almost think like nine
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  times at attending nine times out attending scores those it wasn't to be. And
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  I think Milon had enough character to come back on the other end, and
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  and and and put one in the red cards. I mean, I don't
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  know. I think near the end it almost seemed like the bell was just
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  just done with the game and just wanted to get this thing we're like wrapped
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  up. I don't know. It was a bit of a bit of a
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  shame. How how you know, these these incidents and these these these shenanigansury
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  in the games, red cards, co officiating, you know, errors or
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  whatnot, kind of takes center focus of of the match at hand. And
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  but barring that, I mean, I think Milan, like I said earlier,
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  of this so that I think should have gone the points. I think
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  deserved the points. Maybe some people will say obviously the draw was maybe the
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  right the right the right result, but I don't know. I still think
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  Milan had did enough and had enough to to to to get the three points.
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  You know they did. Uh. You know, the people are gonna
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  say, oh, where it was the penalty in the beginning of the game,
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  the the Mana Tati Caslanos incident. I don't know personally, you know,
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  people might shoot on me fred, I don't know, but I didn't
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  think it was a penalty like that whole it was. I don't know there
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  was for me. Didn't look like the intent was there, like yeah,
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  okay, they collided into each other. But I think it was just a
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  matter of of of the situation. It wasn't really he came out and took
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  him out. The ball had already kind of like gone, and Tati kind
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  of just I don't want to say he embellish because he didn't. He didn't.
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  They did. There was contact there, but he kind of just try
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  to go over room and and obviously they collided a bit. But for me,
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  it wasn't a penalty. It wasn't given. But you know, we
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  saw worse later on. Well, one thing I obviously didn't like was was
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  was the postage hate afterwards, you know, the death threats, you know
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  some things that you know with the social media, there's a lot of good
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  with social media, but there's obviously a lot of bad, some things that
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  we don't like to see. I always, personally, you hate to see
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  these types of things, death threats for any player after after a big match,
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  you know, comment on the controversy, comment on on on things like
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  that. But was he right or wrong for for for the way he he
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  went about, uh, went about the game that could be up for debate,
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  no problem, But when it takes that step further and I know people
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  will say, Ada, you're soft. You know this and that it's how
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  it is in Italy. I understand, guys. I've been to a game
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  there. I've We've seen the atmosphere, I know the culture. But besides
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  all that, guys, it's twenty twenty four. We start putting out death
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  threats on players. It's crazy. So I'm not gonna say that's a that's
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  a big talking point, but I just wanted to throw that in there.
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  Ultimately, I think, like I said, Melon deserved the points, got
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  the points, wasn't the best looking game because I think it could have been
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  more, maybe should have been more in terms of goals, but it kind
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  of just maybe showed the level of both these teams currently in terms of form
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  and and you know, lack of finishing in the final third. You spoke
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  about quickly with with Lotso I mean this game against Melon and then looking totally
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  almost lifeless in the game against against Bayern where I think they had a shot
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  to to to to go for it at least, you know, So I
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  think it just what it was. But so we turned the page. We
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  go on from from from this and like I said, were trying to finish
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  as as high as possible. We have opportunity to go past juve uh,
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  depending on how how they go as well. So the battle there for for
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  a second place I think is still alive and well and you know me,
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  and we'll we'll, we'll, we'll see how see how they finish. But
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  if you want to make just one thing, the last thing I wanted to
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  say, if you want to make more of an impact on the referee and
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  kind of really representing them this one month bullshit of of of suspending them and
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  or making them go down to be for a bit and then coming back up.
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  It's not gonna really solve the issue. Guys. There's there's more than
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  there's more twit than that. So but yeah, I mean, I hate
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  talking about the referees, but it seems like in Italy, if there's not
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  somebody spying on you from an opposition team, there's there's shenanigins on the pitch
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  with the referees. So I guess like all we can say is, you
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  know, solo, I don't know if you having comments about the actual Reds
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  themselves, because I feel like the first, the first one you know,
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  on Pelgreen, you I think it was merited. If I'm not mistaken,
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  it was a double yellow you know, yeah, just don't get too yellows,
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  you know, whatever it happens. But then the two one I didn't
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  the mach one I didn't really understand. I again, I didn't see it
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  live, so you guys could correct me if I'm wrong how I how I
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  interpreted this, But I didn't really like, yeah, okay, there was
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  the contact with Leal there when they were going up for the ball and maybe
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  you know, Leo kind of went for you know, embellosh it a bit,
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  as as as most players do. Was the only yellow I don't remember.
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  I didn't. I didn't check that, So again, sorry for that.
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  But that red card for me, I didn't really understand. And then
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  the g one at the end forget about it. Yeah, I mean that
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  one. That one made no sense like I I again, I didn't really
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  was on the yellow two, I don't. I don't know. I didn't
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  see. There's the famous picture of of the bellow one hand red card,
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  one hand yellow for both and police. You know it's that becomes a meme
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  right right after that. So I can't say I really understood the the you
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  know, the second two me it was more than my which one because I
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  really didn't understand that the one. I mean, listen, was he on
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  a yellow? I don't know. Was that that second yellow? Maybe you
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  can check it out. I don't know, but he wasn't. He wasn't,
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  so yeah, straight red for for maybe you know that that a little
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  bit of rough play. I mean, I don't know how we came Have
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  we come to that in the society in terms of in terms of culture,
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  it would be a shame if that's the case. You know, there obviously
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  was contact on from from poor to to to GenZ uh, you know,
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  the whole point of the arm and and and really tugging on him and I
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  think out of frustration that's how he reacted. Is it a right card?
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  I don't think so. But again it's the end of the game. It
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  almost seemed that the boo was just ready to get get ready to wrap this
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  up. It was a real disaster cross on his part in terms of for
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  mostly those two the first one, like you said, and how I saw
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  it at least, I mean bugging, I'm sorry, but like you're an
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  idiot, like you're on a yellow? You do what was he was?
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  He was postage wrong for trying to continue play with somebody down yeah. Maybe
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  some people are gonna say, yeah, it's costless or it's not sportsman like,
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  you know, sure, but you know, at the same time,
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  you know the the ball wasn't put out of play, and and and the
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  ref has already stopped the match, right, so you know, call it
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  what you want. But I think that's kind of a rookie mistake, bonehead
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  and mistake from him, young player, because you're you're an idiot, you're
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  already on the yellow card. You're gonna go do something stupid to put yourself
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  at a disadvantage. Albeit maybe you are right in terms of you know,
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  postage should have put the ball out whatever, fair play all that, but
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  again you go that extra step, even though it wasn't malicious or really dangerous,
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  you know that extra step and just put yourself at the disadvantage and you
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  shoot yourself in the foot. For me, that's where I see it's a
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  bit of a boneheaded mistake. But the other too, is the ones that
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  I kind of scratched my head about, and you know, try to be
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  as as as unbiased as possible and not in those two because I really didn't
• 22:03
  see, like I just explained, I didn't really think that both those were
• 22:07
  merited as red cards. But I don't think regardless of that, those really
• 22:14
  happened at the end of the game. You know, actually had ninety minutes
• 22:17
  to to to do something before that, to to to gain those, to
• 22:22
  gain the three points or maybe the one, and they didn't. So I'm
• 22:27
  not here to say that it would have been a different game. But you
• 22:30
  know, I think you you you create your own luck, you create your
• 22:33
  own opportunities, and when you're not creating enough and not being able to be
• 22:36
  clinical, that kind of bite you in the ass later on. So that's
• 22:41
  kind of how I saw saw that in terms of the Shenanigans. But yeah,
• 22:45
  but I will put my hands up it and say the Batto disaster class.
• 22:51
  I mean, this is not the first time from him and probably not
• 22:53
  the last that we'll see of him in in in ship uh you know ship
• 22:59
  reference in the performances. But I digress. I think we have we have
• 23:03
  bigger problems in Italy than and and only this, so uh yeah, yeah,
• 23:11
  I mean for me, the two red cards not not to be a
• 23:17
  dead horse now since we've talked about it, but the two red cards at
• 23:19
  the end, it's just it feels like you lost control of the game,
• 23:22
  and he was just trying to put his stamp on it. But at that
• 23:23
  point ninety five minutes later, if you if you don't have control of the
• 23:26
  game, you're not doing good job as a referee. Yeah. Apparently,
• 23:32
  apparently, according to the Gazette, the second time he's been suspended this season,
• 23:37
  which is pretty crazy. You get spended twice in your job. I
• 23:41
  don't know how you still have your job after, you know, but whatever,
• 23:45
  But he clearly didn't learn his lesson right because he already got to spend
• 23:47
  it one time, and no, they came back and he does and another
• 23:51
  ship performance. So again, no control, I think is what you like
• 23:55
  you said is well said clearly there wasn't that, especially near the end during
• 24:00
  in the game. Whatever, let's things go, what they let things go.
• 24:02
  Whatever. But yeah, you know, once, okay twice, now
• 24:07
  three times we're gonna have to see. So, yeah, I don't know
• 24:14
  if there's a way to to you know, improve officiating in saidiya. I
• 24:21
  think for me, what I think they should do is is get foreign refs,
• 24:26
  simple as that. Not not just to just get foreign refs to come
• 24:29
  and officiate, but work with other leagues, work with other associations, work
• 24:33
  with UPA, improve improve the overall referring structure. Don't just rely on what
• 24:37
  is it called the A I A is that the re Referee Association. Don't
• 24:44
  just stick within your four walls of A I A. You know, go
• 24:48
  go and take part of these these these joint programs. I know UPHA and
• 24:52
  and Clinton Bold they have a joint program. Now where during the Copa America
• 24:56
  there's there's a couple of European refs, during the Euros there's a couple South
• 25:00
  American refs combined. Get just get better, just get it. It is
• 25:03
  tired to talk about referees, and I know they do mistakes, and you
• 25:07
  know, we can even talk about that the inter General game. That penalty
• 25:11
  you should not have been a penalty. You know, you look at it
• 25:15
  quickly. It looks like a pal fast, it looks like a pealenty.
• 25:18
  I don't know where the referee was positioned on that one. That's one where
• 25:21
  var needs to step in and say, look, this is clear and obvious
• 25:23
  error. It needs to be turned. I don't know why it wasn't.
• 25:26
  I don't know who was on Varden, but it's frustrating that, Yeah,
• 25:33
  they all got they all get suspended apparent, right, So I don't know.
• 25:36
  I don't know, Jenny. You you have the most refereeing experience out
• 25:41
  of us. Do you have any thoughts of all the controversy this weekend?
• 25:45
  It's so hard, honestly speaking, when you're a referee, because you have
• 25:48
  such a short span to make a judgment call and you have like like very
• 25:55
  little evidence to go off of from the get go, so you know you
• 25:59
  have to you have to go with an immediate reaction. And what sucks is
• 26:02
  that when you're a referee, you can't. If you go back on one
• 26:03
  of your calls, you just look completely weak. People are not going to
• 26:07
  take your decisions as credible. What you have to do is you make a
• 26:11
  decision, you stick by it afterwards, after after review, and if you
• 26:15
  realize it's a mistake, or if you realize that you made an error,
• 26:17
  then you apologize for it. It is human error, like people are,
• 26:22
  you know, are human. They can make mistakes and they go what they
• 26:23
  see. Now in the day and age of var, right, Yeah,
• 26:27
  in the day and age of var that changes things because now you have eyes
• 26:30
  on the play. The thing is the eyes on the play. Also,
• 26:33
  if for anything that might be like might have potential audio issues or might have
• 26:37
  problems related to what someone said on the field, they they don't have the
• 26:41
  ability to capture that, but they'll able to, like but any fouls or
• 26:45
  whatnot, they'll be able to capture. So that that that's where it's like,
• 26:51
  Okay, well you lose a little bit of leeway. Now. Now
• 26:52
  if you if you're unsure of a call, you can always contact the bar
• 26:56
  room and they can help you out with a decision and they can you know,
• 27:00
  will give you some ies sight and then you can even go check out
• 27:02
  a replay yourself. So that's where I think you you lose. You lose
• 27:08
  that wiggle room to make mistakes. You have now you have the means to
• 27:12
  you know, double check something that you're unsure of before making a call.
• 27:18
  But like at the moment, you have to always give a decision like an
• 27:21
  the instant. You can't just say wait, hold on, let me think,
• 27:23
  you know, like you have to call something if it ends up.
• 27:26
  If Varr says, well that's actually wasn't a foul, you should take a
• 27:30
  look at replay and you look at it Okay, I'll retrack, I'll retract
• 27:33
  the yellow and blah blah blah. What I think the league should start doing
• 27:38
  is basically I've said many times before, do like the like do like American
• 27:41
  football, Do like the Australian football where like we're gaining or hockey, you
• 27:48
  know, where the refs announced the calls or the reasoning as to why it's
• 27:52
  a goal or no goal, or why it was a foul or you know,
• 27:55
  why was var call like why did VAR change the decision or why there
• 27:59
  was the decision? Evoke back, you know, like have the referees make
• 28:02
  a call, like to say that the fans or the viewers can have an
• 28:06
  explanation as to why that call was made, so like they have a bit
• 28:10
  more clarity, you know, and then if people at the stadium, they'll
• 28:12
  hear the announcement and then they'll be like, oh, okay, that makes
• 28:15
  sense. I just think probably the said yeah, just doesn't have that infrastructure
• 28:18
  to do that properly, but it is what it is. I think I
• 28:22
  think if they announced or mention what their calls are or the reasons behind it,
• 28:26
  I think it would solve a lot of issues and it helps you weed
• 28:30
  out the good reps and the bad refs, because the ones that make the
• 28:32
  terrible calls and they give the terrible explanations. Well, if you're an association
• 28:36
  that manages your refs, you'll be able to say, like, Okay,
• 28:38
  well he really didn't do his homework because by the rule book, it's it's
• 28:42
  X, Y and Z and you did w You know, like, if
• 28:48
  it's one time mistake, it happens. But like if it's somebody who's consistently
• 28:52
  making their wrong calls, it allows you to catch them much quicker and allow
• 28:55
  them to go through a retraining course. You know. Sometimes it's not just
• 28:57
  the cardio aspect of the rep that might be an issue. It's bout me
• 29:00
  to just tell them they're having mixed up with the rulings, or maybe there's
• 29:03
  something that's like they're missing some clarity on a certain section or whatnot. That's
• 29:11
  that that Those are my personal thoughts about it. It is a bit weird
• 29:14
  and sucks because I feel I feel for Latial because like this weekend was not
• 29:17
  their kind of weekend with the with the calls that were made and stuff.
• 29:19
  But I mean it's something like every week a different team has a controversy with
• 29:26
  a referee, and that's just we call say, that's just soccer in general.
• 29:30
  Like what competition has ever had perfect reps. There's been no competition in
• 29:33
  the history of our lives that had referees. And like, at the end
• 29:36
  of the day, they're like, Okay, all the reps were great,
• 29:38
  you know, like there's always going to be one that's going to be like,
• 29:41
  oh well that rep for that game wasn't that good or blah blah blah.
• 29:45
  It's normal. But I also think I also think some of these reps
• 29:49
  kind of take like got true their pride a bit and kind of really just
• 29:53
  go in there and it's like, listen, I forget who I am and
• 29:56
  what I you know, my name or whatever. You psych up your pride
• 30:00
  a bit and you and you fucking go out there and make the right call.
• 30:03
  I mean, listen, we have you know before, like we can
• 30:06
  have like this conversation almost sounds like before we had var and A being far.
• 30:10
  You guys know, I wasn't a fan and sometimes I'm still not a
• 30:14
  fan, but we have the tool, you know, quote unquote to say
• 30:18
  that we can try to avoid some of this. A lot of these things
• 30:22
  are are subjective. You might think it's a you might just on this just
• 30:26
  on this show. We have three different opinions on things at times, right,
• 30:29
  so when we go back and check the facts that we can kind of
• 30:33
  kind of come to an agreement and say, hey, okay, yeah that
• 30:36
  was you know it was it was X and on Y and Z like you
• 30:40
  said, Jenny, So I don't know for me, and before you kind
• 30:45
  of bopped off a bit before, Jenny, but like I didn't really understand
• 30:51
  the right cards of the last to the marrow seat and the gandoz one for
• 30:56
  me, I didn't understand those. So maybe, like you said, that
• 30:57
  clarity of explaining what the hell happened and why it was the deemed a red
• 31:03
  card and not a yellow or no card at all, Uh, that could
• 31:07
  help for me. The first one, for me, it stands you know,
• 31:12
  you get a second yellow, you're an idiot for your action, your
• 31:15
  decision. Okay, I can true and swallow that one. But it's the
• 31:19
  other two that that I agree with what you're saying in terms of not not
• 31:22
  having much clarity, And maybe there was I didn't see it live. So
• 31:26
  again, don't don't don't go crazy on me in the comments. But yeah,
• 31:33
  I don't know. Sometimes like these rest they know, yeah, okay,
• 31:37
  they're gonna get a slap on the wrist, like we said, they
• 31:40
  bellowed two times. You got suspended this season alone. Who knows in his
• 31:42
  in his in his efficiating career, and he knows that, you know,
• 31:48
  come come April May, he'll be back in action and uh, you know,
• 31:52
  nothing really will happen and he's back to to to his every day officiating
• 31:56
  in life. And I don't know, Uh, it doesn't seem to be
• 32:01
  a queer decision on on on what how to how to really stop these things.
• 32:08
  But again, human nature, okay, that is that is true.
• 32:13
  But when we have when we have tools to try to help mistakes that do
• 32:19
  happen in everyday life and every day decision making, which is perfectly normal,
• 32:22
  I think they should be used in a way that are are not not having
• 32:28
  lealto goal kind of trying to make a meme about about you know, situations
• 32:32
  at hand in terms of the intergeneral again, right, and that in that
• 32:36
  non not in my opinion, shouldn't have been a penalty. Right, So
• 32:40
  but I digress. We're going to be here all night. If we're gonna
• 32:43
  talk about referee so let's move on. Yeah, one one game where you
• 32:46
  know there was maybe a bit of talk about refereeing, but it really wasn't
• 32:51
  as as gregious as the other games. Is you Anopoly, I'm sorry,
• 32:54
  Monopoly, You've a you know, I don't think the refereeing was the story
• 32:58
  of the game at all, but rather, uh, you've missed chances.
• 33:01
  Very frustrating game for Ventus. But I mean, if if you have this
• 33:07
  many chances and you don't put them away against the top team, you're not
• 33:09
  gonna win. You could get away with that against a team like Celerinyitana,
• 33:14
  team like le Cha, team like so Solo, but you're not getting away
• 33:17
  with that against Napoli, especially a team that's gonna come back and also capitalize
• 33:23
  on their chances. Like you know, I think it was a pretty even
• 33:25
  game. I think at the end, you know, maybe a draw would
• 33:30
  have been the most fair result if we're going to be playing you know,
• 33:32
  feelings here, but uh, you know, Napoli that that one chance,
• 33:38
  by all right, he just put it away. He took advantage of a
• 33:42
  bad defensive mistake and he's just blasted it home. The Pelly extremely frustrating palty
• 33:47
  defending. Afterwards, you know it was a Pelly nong gay. I don't
• 33:52
  know. I don't know how you pronounce his name. Stupid play. This
• 33:55
  is what happens when you play eighteen year olds in big games. By the
• 33:58
  way, you know, apparently everyone someone wants to play the eighteen year old
• 34:01
  until they make a mistake and costs the game. But Chezney makes a safe
• 34:07
  and and you know rules are play continues. You know, if I was
• 34:12
  in charge of the rules, I have said this before, I make play
• 34:15
  stop because it's pretty cool to a goalie that he makes a save and then
• 34:19
  he gets less lets down by his defenders. But that, you know whatever,
• 34:22
  that's crit rules and just terrible defending. This terrible defending. But uve
• 34:25
  where there's no Monopoly player within a meter of them once the ball is kicked,
• 34:31
  and they don't even get to the ball first. Notally gave them a
• 34:34
  head start. They were even. The three of them were even like I
• 34:37
  don't know how many meters behind behind them, and they anticipated like their anticipation
• 34:44
  for this, I think it was again, don't call me. I think
• 34:46
  it was Raspadari and Dio Lorenzo. If I'm not mistaken, just totally took
• 34:52
  advantage of of you base sleeping. So really I got to give it to
• 34:57
  them for Yeah, wise that anticipation. I don't know who came up with
• 35:01
  that. It's it's a pretty smart idea. Instead of having your players line
• 35:05
  up with the line, let them line up a couple of feet before,
• 35:07
  make sure they're synced with the player. That takes a lot of training,
• 35:10
  a lot of chemistry, just syncing with the kicker and and let them run
• 35:15
  because even if the defenders did have let's say a meter meet and a half
• 35:22
  head start, they're flat footed. You know, you're always gonna lose if
• 35:25
  you're flat for vooted versus versus a guy that's running. Uh. But you
• 35:30
  know, I'm not blaming Chessie in that at all. Okay, maybe if
• 35:32
  we have a goalie expert on here, he's gonna say Chezy should have,
• 35:36
  you know, put that away. But it's so hard to even stop a
• 35:39
  penalty, you know, at that point it's up to your defenders to clear,
• 35:44
  and they didn't, and that's such a frustrating way to lose. Yeah,
• 35:49
  but for me, it was really like and Valvich, he's got to
• 35:52
  put He's got to put those chances away. He had really three really good
• 35:54
  chances in the first half. One of them he did a good job,
• 35:58
  you know, hits the post whatever. I'm not blaming him for that.
• 36:00
  It was a tough angle whatever. But the other two, the other two,
• 36:02
  one of them on a header and then the other one on a turnover
• 36:06
  and it was just a normal kick. And he was going more for placement,
• 36:12
  trying to get fancy. Just man pucks on net, right, like
• 36:15
  they saying hockey, just just get the shot on that, Just go for
• 36:19
  it and that you know what. I'm gonna credit Casa because that's what he
• 36:21
  did on his goal. He didn't go he didn't go a great shot.
• 36:24
  It's a great shot. He didn't go flying in. Yeah, they didn't
• 36:30
  go flying into the corner and went into the net. That's all that counts.
• 36:34
  It was beautifully placed along the ground. It beat the defender. I
• 36:37
  think it was ROCHMANI And that's all you need. You don't need to get
• 36:39
  fancy Valvich. You're not. You're not being paid. You know, they
• 36:43
  didn't buy you for seventy million. I don't know what his salary is to
• 36:45
  get fancy. Just get the job done. And you know, I know
• 36:49
  I'm going on a bit of a rant here, but after the game,
• 36:52
  I was thinking, you know, when you've had Ronaldo, those chances,
• 36:57
  they're in the back of the net, and you knew with Ronaldo, if
• 37:00
  your team's down one, nothing, no problem, he could create something out
• 37:05
  of nothing. And that's what I loved about watching Ronaldo. I know was
• 37:08
  short lived three years at Juve, but you see the difference between an exceptional
• 37:15
  player and a good, sash great player. But even then, even then,
• 37:20
  even if you're not going to talk about Ronaldo, talk about Tavis,
• 37:22
  talk about Iguay, talk about Manzu. Are they missing those chances? No?
• 37:27
  Probably not. You know, it's so it's so frustrating. Just put
• 37:30
  the ball in that man, stop doing your twenty eight celebrations. Score and
• 37:35
  that's that's all we need. He's just he's the new celerity tandem man,
• 37:38
  as we know, because he only scores against bottom teams and he can't get
• 37:43
  it done against big clubs. That's my rant of the week. Oh what
• 37:46
  said, I think your thoughts well, I mean I have the opposite end
• 37:55
  of that, but uh, I think Nick has the one percent right in
• 38:01
  terms of being frustrated with, specifically the penalty shot goal, the fact that
• 38:07
  you had three players behind. Sorry if you guys hear my mom moving shit
• 38:09
  in the background at my parents' house because wife is disconnected at my other place,
• 38:15
  because I'm in the process of moving back to my parents because house was
• 38:17
  sold, so the house I was taken care of, so grant it was
• 38:22
  my it was my step day of the life. Yeah, yeah, the
• 38:29
  fortunately step. No, no, Francesco's house is empty now nobody's there anymore,
• 38:32
  so moving back here. It's bittersweet. But yeah, I I I
• 38:37
  stanned with Nick because if I was being issue, if I was in issues,
• 38:39
  I'd be frustrated with the penalty shot goes specifically where it's like, how
• 38:44
  do you guys get beaten by like like it's not even It wasn't just one
• 38:46
  player, there was all three of the knopotly players were right there ready to
• 38:51
  put in the rebound, and Nick said it perfectly. Chesney did his best
• 38:53
  for for for a short for a penalty shot. I got. It's it's
• 38:57
  extremely hard to like on a penalty just to had a good grip on it.
• 39:00
  You try your best, you know, you like you can't even fist
• 39:04
  your hand because you want to get as much of a reach as possible on
• 39:07
  that ball. You know you can't. You can't punch it away. You
• 39:08
  can't fish it away. You have to like get as much as a reader.
• 39:10
  But also it also wasn't a great penalty try to cut you off.
• 39:14
  It wasn't even a great penalty. Biolci man. I don't know if you
• 39:16
  guys saw. It wasn't even placed in the corner. No again, I'm
• 39:20
  still I'm still giving because he gets the right way. He did his part.
• 39:25
  But like you guys are saying, you know, it's it's it's the
• 39:29
  it's the it's the defenders that your teammates that that that didn't bail you out
• 39:32
  this time. Chesney is bailed You've out numerous times. And Nick can probably
• 39:37
  attest to this, maybe say there's games that you may want because Chesney just
• 39:42
  stood on his head and he made those saves that he needed to and and
• 39:45
  they got that fortunate goal that they needed to. It's the literal allegrimuzo style.
• 39:50
  You know, you're just like you. It's uh, Chesney makes saves
• 39:53
  and then shall I you know, just hopefully maybe Rabbio is going to get
• 39:57
  a banger or something because this season has been all all that's been uh been
• 40:00
  well. You know, every once in a while you got your forwards doing
• 40:04
  well. But yeah, like I think I had this discussion with uh with
• 40:08
  Bertle from all UVE casts, like Juve's issue is that they have players that
• 40:13
  just upfront that are just not finishing their chances. They're high chances. The
• 40:15
  high danger chances that they're missing is a tremendous amount. It's unbelievable, Like
• 40:20
  we just we discussed this and Cave Skella is up there too. I think
• 40:22
  he's like third or fourth in the league in terms of how high danger chances
• 40:27
  missed, Like I think Lajo's first. I think Keza is either third or
• 40:30
  second, and would be third or fourth or something that I need to I
• 40:35
  need to take a look at that. But it's it's it's like the opportunities
• 40:37
  are just not going in for you. Sometimes when the players get them,
• 40:40
  they're they're they're trying, just not going in. I think Nick said it
• 40:43
  bes just take them on that Kiza proved out very well, but uh,
• 40:49
  you know, it's just it's it's like like I I was surprised Cove Skella's
• 40:52
  goal went in. I was I I I I I I saw that the
• 40:57
  release. I saw it was a good hit and I took a deflection and
• 40:59
  I'm like, Okay, it doesn't have enough speed, but it just had
• 41:01
  enough. It had enough of a deviation to catch Asney off guard to like
• 41:05
  just squeeze in. You know. That's the way to bounce, Like that's
• 41:08
  the ball bounces sometimes that you've a beat Napoli yearly. This year one zero,
• 41:13
  if I'm not mistaken, And now they this was another one goal game.
• 41:15
  It's and it just goes to show monopoly on their on their on a
• 41:22
  better day. Uh. They they are like quality wise, like a top
• 41:27
  four team, and I don't think anybody will dismiss that. Just this year
• 41:29
  they've just been playing horribly. This was finally a game that you can build
• 41:35
  off of. This with Calzona so far, they've been doing decent, They've
• 41:37
  been doing good. There's some progress. So I think Calzona is the is
• 41:42
  the project going forward? No, I think, honestly speaking, know it's
• 41:45
  gonna be funny. I think it's the first year. Yeah, I think
• 41:49
  it's the first year that we're gonna be going into the summer, we're all
• 41:52
  four of our teams, we'll have question marks on their managers for next season.
• 41:59
  Like I remember thee the summer of twenty nineteen was a big one.
• 42:02
  But I think Milan, I remember Milan still had no No, that was
• 42:07
  the year. Yeah, there was John Pello came in and then Sadi came
• 42:14
  in for you did Anchlotti go in for not? No? Not? Ancelotti
• 42:20
  went in the year before. Yeah, I went in the year before went
• 42:22
  twenty okay, all fourteen. Gtuzo came in in December because we were in
• 42:28
  Italy when December December twenty nineteen. Yeah, but at that point, I'm
• 42:34
  talking about the summer. Yeah, I'm talking about the summer, right,
• 42:37
  Yeah. Yeah, we can't say for sure if that Austie stays at Oma.
• 42:40
  We can't say for sure if Calzona stays Atnopoli. I know management has
• 42:44
  said many times that they that you know, they're really behind a leg,
• 42:46
  but you know it's costing them a bit. And and uh, you know,
• 42:51
  like my costume player like Jezza, my costume a player like Yaza,
• 42:54
  who like is demanding more because he's right now he's being like I don't think
• 42:59
  he's enjoying playing under a legacy, So he's like, if I'm gonna be
• 43:01
  here, might as well get paid for it, you know what I'm saying,
• 43:05
  which is totally fair to say. I mean, and then you know,
• 43:09
  Melon has been having their frustrations with Pioli and and I think he's gone
• 43:15
  what he the best he can out of that squad. But it also has
• 43:20
  to like we also have to keep in mind that we might see a lot
• 43:23
  of big stars depart from our teams, like Ossiman might leave Napoli, Dibala,
• 43:29
  you know, like unless he renews, is like free for free to
• 43:32
  be picked. Quieza right now, far far and away from contract negotiations.
• 43:37
  Leao is uh, you know, being targeted by some teams that are willing
• 43:42
  to pay that by all clause, you know, Like it's it's it's one
• 43:46
  of those times where it's like it's I think this summer is gonna it's gonna
• 43:50
  probably drastically change the landscape of city. Ah, we'll see who goes where.
• 43:55
  Rumors I saw on twitters maybe Mata probably going to uh going to Juventus,
• 44:02
  which would be interesting for them. I'm curious to see how that works.
• 44:08
  I joke around bring Desservee back, bring the Zerobie back, Donopoly,
• 44:12
  But I don't see that as a realistic thing, especially the lent. This
• 44:16
  has got a lot of financial recoup to make this year, but I don't
• 44:20
  think it's going to be anything unfeasible because ossy men did a favor and be
• 44:22
  like, Okay, well you know what, I'll resign a contract to up
• 44:25
  my release costs at one fifty, but I expect to leave this summer.
• 44:30
  And they're like, okay, not a problem, Like at least this is
• 44:31
  a mutual way of partying ways without like anybody's spitting in somebody else's face,
• 44:36
  you know what I'm saying. But anyways, I'm getting away off topic.
• 44:39
  Uh it's it was, it's it's just a sign of the times. I
• 44:45
  think like this was just a sign of UVE having their inconsistencies and you know,
• 44:49
  with how it costs them in some big games, and this is a
• 44:52
  sign of like how napoly like with very consistencies, like on the opposite spectrum
• 44:57
  like what can't like sorry, my foot was itchy, what they can what
• 45:00
  they can do when they actually are playing at one hundred percent and firing on
• 45:05
  all cylinders so it is what it is. I'll take the three points.
• 45:08
  I'll walk, especially that they're trying to fight back into into the potential top
• 45:13
  four spot. Now they're in seventh, the three behind. At Palanta,
• 45:15
  they get sixth, which will put them in the European spot, So that'd
• 45:20
  be cool, and especially going up against Barsa tied one to one, very
• 45:24
  big win hopefully helps them out with motivation for that match, to make it
• 45:29
  a bit more believable that they're in form and that they're capable of getting that
• 45:32
  result versus them. So we'll see other games in the city. I mean,
• 45:45
  not how much else too exciting besides our team's right, but I mean
• 45:51
  we you know, we did mention that Talanta boloinion. Do you guys,
• 45:53
  do you guys really think that that Muta would will leave? I don't think
• 46:01
  so. Sorry, it's really hard. It's tough because it's a tough question.
• 46:06
  He built such a project there, and I mean, I don't know
• 46:08
  what his contract is, but I know Suputo has money. So if another
• 46:13
  team comes calling, he could be like, hey, look, Joey,
• 46:15
  this is how much are you gonna pay me? Can you give me this
• 46:19
  much? He's like's not gonna pay him joy Like, here's this, plus
• 46:22
  I'll give you some cheese. No, Joey's not gonna pay him unfortune,
• 46:27
  I don't think. But listen, I agree, all the things are checking
• 46:31
  all those boxes. What is he? What has how has the manager?
• 46:37
  We said it on the show, we've seen the progress you know now Curly
• 46:40
  on Bolonia. He's he's doing incredible things and has them in a in a
• 46:44
  place where they probably never expected them to be right currently in fourth place in
• 46:49
  the European mix of of of of competition and and uh but again we'll see
• 46:54
  how this ends come the end of the season. But does he Oh,
• 47:00
  I mean, I don't know, Like it's a really for me. It's
• 47:01
  a tough question to answer because first off, is he ready to make that
• 47:07
  big move? Is he ready to make that move? There's that question to
• 47:09
  be answered. Has he done enough to say that he deserves and warrants that
• 47:16
  move? Again, that's another question to be answered. Has he you know
• 47:22
  he's doing and again no disrespect, no nothing to say wrong or bad.
• 47:27
  But he's doing this with a with a Bonnia team where he has that that
• 47:30
  that freedom and that uh, you know he's able to kind of work with
• 47:37
  this squad and work with these players that are to a man with you,
• 47:40
  some of them obviously not caliber of a of a uvent to step a player,
• 47:45
  but at the same time they're performing on all time highs. Right or
• 47:49
  soon you're reviving his career. Zerxi, that is is a man on form
• 47:53
  and we'll probably not see him in that squad anymore. Uh, depending how
• 47:58
  how how much teams are, we are going to go after him. You
• 48:00
  know this summer, you know they've they have guys playing at all time levels,
• 48:07
  which is which which is huge for me Monta. He's made those incremental,
• 48:13
  incremental steps, you know in progression when he was on Genua Holy Ship,
• 48:17
  like that was like this is Thiago Mota, Like this is like a
• 48:22
  manager that you know is a is an upcoming. Like he didn't start off
• 48:25
  on the right foot in my pierc opinion, his his first stints weren't anything
• 48:29
  to really go back out and say, wow, what am i stro And
• 48:34
  he's and he's and he's really you know, changing the game and modern football
• 48:37
  this like he wasn't doing any of those things. Curly, Aboni has found
• 48:40
  himself in a good situation at a good place where he can where he can
• 48:45
  uh implement his style of play and and have being his players buy on,
• 48:50
  buy into that, and they're they're performing at incredible levels. But again,
• 48:55
  is he is Is this sample sized enough to say he warrants such job at
• 49:00
  Juventus where it's only about winning and not about you know, all the other
• 49:07
  extra curricular Will he have enough to say that he's the one to take on
• 49:12
  that role. People will say yes, people will say no. It's a
• 49:15
  question to be to to to have a discussion about because you know, granted,
• 49:21
  you know, this Bologna stint is a small sample size in terms of
• 49:23
  what he's been able to do and how he's been able to dipplemay, does
• 49:27
  he deserve a shot with you know, with this consistency continuing on for for
• 49:32
  a couple of seasons, I think so? Has he done enough? Yeah?
• 49:37
  Potentially, But it's a different it's a different landscape Bologna and and and
• 49:43
  Juventus, like that's queer as they you're you're on the you're on the pitch.
• 49:47
  Uh, you're on the touch line of of Bologna at the d Lada
• 49:52
  or you're at on the touchline at Juventus Alan Stadium, I mean those are
• 49:55
  two different you know, hearts. I mean not many, you know,
• 50:02
  currently at juvent As, we haven't seen much crazy turnover in terms of managers,
• 50:08
  like a name in one on one hand, it's it's it's not much
• 50:13
  Bolognia has. It's just a different COWI broke of different piazza and different shirt.
• 50:19
  It's it's it's there's so many differences. But I think he I don't
• 50:23
  know. For me again to say all that, I still think it's a
• 50:27
  difficult question. Will he go? I don't know how much are they gonna
• 50:30
  willing to pay him? Are they Are they going to move on from a
• 50:34
  leg which signs seemed like they probably might or maybe not, Who knows,
• 50:40
  I don't know, Guys, Like maybe you guys see something different and I'm
• 50:45
  not seeing it, which obviously I like to hear you guys opinion. But
• 50:47
  I think to end off my point, it's small sample size. Is he
• 50:52
  ready to make the big jump, because like I said, you're going from
• 50:57
  no disrespect, but from like a middle table team who to uh you know,
• 51:01
  to a top team. Historically in this league, the ZEB was able
• 51:07
  to somewhat do that from going from Sasuolo to a Premier League team. Albeit
• 51:12
  it's not the top Premier League team, but you know, uh, decent
• 51:16
  enough Premier League team, and not only that, making it in the Premier
• 51:21
  League, which according to a lot of people is is a big, obviously
• 51:24
  accomplishment. So I'm curious. I'm honestly curious to see what what what that
• 51:30
  holds Forta. But he definitely deserves eventually. I think he definitely deserves a
• 51:36
  shot at a at a at a bigger club, and you know, hopefully
• 51:40
  he can handle it. Yeah, I agree fully with Adrian there. I'm
• 51:46
  sorry, you go ahead, Jenny. No, Just like I know he
• 51:51
  said before about uh, you know, like Juve's looking into him and you
• 51:54
  know they might do it, but I don't think it should be done.
• 51:57
  I think, you know, like, don't him from like that the team
• 52:00
  like Bologna into a major team like who went this? I think it would
• 52:05
  be something some kind of I don't say career suicide, but such a daunting
• 52:08
  task. I don't think he's prepared for as much Like the way I see
• 52:14
  it is like what happens, like what happens if he doesn't make it right,
• 52:16
  Like let's say, let's say he does go and and things don't go
• 52:20
  accord upon and this whole Thago Mata craze uh. And again this is no
• 52:24
  disrespect to Tagamota and and what he's done with Deeumonia, because it's been absolutely
• 52:29
  fantastic. We've loved to have watched it, but to try to put a
• 52:31
  bit more of a real real look on it. What happens if he doesn't
• 52:35
  do well and doesn't make it, and that thing totally fails rights basically totally
• 52:40
  totally failed at inted. Some some managers are only and again we'll never know
• 52:47
  until it until it does happen, but some managers are only good at a
• 52:53
  certain level. Other managers are able to go and take on a real Madrid,
• 53:00
  a Manchester City, a Juventus, a Milan, you know, any
• 53:05
  intent and and really do wonderful things with these clubs. I'm just scared of
• 53:10
  what the backlashes for Thiago Mota. That is still a young coach, Italian
• 53:15
  coach that has modern ideas, but what happens when it doesn't If it doesn't
• 53:19
  work at Juventus, and then historical is completely down and he kind of has
• 53:23
  to restart. So again, there's a lot of factors in my eyes.
• 53:27
  But Western guys and Nick knows this better than all of us here. But
• 53:34
  you're employed by v what's the goal to win? That's it. Love Juventus
• 53:39
  or hate Juventus. Their their end goal is to win. It's a Scudetto,
• 53:44
  or they're gonna try to fight for champions or they're gonna tough four.
• 53:46
  At the end of the day, it's to win. It does not to
• 53:50
  be oh, yeah, we're gonna do fifteen passes, we're gonna score tact
• 53:55
  Their their history shows in the past ten twenty is that winning is the end
• 54:01
  goal and you have to kind of be in their shell of a person and
• 54:08
  character to excel at a Juventus. So I hope if it does happen for
• 54:14
  Ta, I hope it goes well. Not a Juventus, but I hope
• 54:19
  it goes well wherever he goes. But that's only my worry about if,
• 54:23
  if, and when he does ultimately go to a bigger club. Yeah,
• 54:30
  I think also my biggest concern. I mean, not that the club really
• 54:37
  cares about this, but you see the talk online. You know, of
• 54:42
  course you could be having a better season, especially this past month, but
• 54:47
  this is the best season you've has had since winning the scood at though four
• 54:53
  years ago in terms of points you're saying, I think so. I mean
• 54:59
  the year or after they finished fourth with pier Low. The year after that
• 55:05
  with Legree was was a rough season. I forget how many points there was
• 55:08
  it was. I think it was even less. Though last year, you
• 55:10
  know, points on the field improved. But if I'm not mistaken, Juventus
• 55:15
  could still finish with the most points since that sculeetto interesting. Do I think
• 55:21
  Alegari will keep his job at this point? I don't think so, But
• 55:23
  this is a change you make in the summer. But then again, what's
• 55:27
  the goal moving forward? I want to see you Uventus winning Scueto for it's
• 55:30
  been four seasons. It's a long time, you know, enters one and
• 55:34
  twice since then, not only once miland once it's time to start winning again,
• 55:38
  you know, especially if they qualify for Champions League. The Champions League
• 55:43
  was the obsession of the Tens, you know, get back there. They're
• 55:49
  not. I don't see them winning the Champions League or even competing for at
• 55:51
  least a few years. But I don't know. If I don't know,
• 55:53
  if Manta is that guy, we'll see, Like I love what he's doing
• 55:58
  it with Bologna, but are one thing he need on field results and can
• 56:04
  he translate that to a bigger team. I don't know. You know,
• 56:07
  this guy himself has won the Champions League. He was part of that trouble
• 56:10
  winning team with Inter. Yeah, but you know, you never know.
• 56:15
  Uh, we'll see, we'll see people are gonna say we're haters. People
• 56:17
  are gonna say we're haters. Not because we're not saying that we're on the
• 56:20
  badwagon for to or to any big club. But yeah, exactly. I
• 56:25
  wish him well, I honestly do, because what he's done at Bologna we
• 56:29
  can't we can't discredit. Right, It's been fantastic to watch and I'm really
• 56:36
  enjoying And like I said earlier, his progression has been, you know,
• 56:38
  something that I wasn't expecting because you know, they say, you know,
• 56:44
  a first a good first impression goes a long way. His first impression as
• 56:47
  a manager, for me, it wasn't anything to write home about, right,
• 56:50
  So how he's able to turn that first impression as a coach or a
• 56:54
  manager to to what he's been able to do now at Bologna. He's on
• 56:59
  that to fit I I I hope he does well in the future. I
• 57:04
  know there was even talks, you know, a little bit ago of maybe
• 57:06
  him coming to me one like again, like I don't know if I have
• 57:10
  to see it to see it to believe it, but wishing him the best
• 57:14
  no matter what what happens. Going for because he is a young Italian coach,
• 57:19
  and there's a lot of young, good Italian young coaches out there that
• 57:22
  are really trying to change the game, change the ideologies and and uh,
• 57:25
  it's been fantastic to watch and we hope nothing but the best for for all
• 57:30
  those for all those young Italian coaches. Moving on, It's it is Euro's
• 57:37
  year, So I think I feel like every podcast from here on out,
• 57:39
  we're probably gonna end it by talking a bit about the about the year as
• 57:45
  we build up to it. Uh. We did actually get a couple of
• 57:50
  questions on social media, uh on Twitter at the couch of guys. The
• 57:53
  first one. First one was our from our friend Nick Deany uh skamaka or
• 58:00
  ret ta gee for the Strikers spot for Italy man go around. What do
• 58:05
  you think it's? Uh like, do we not have better? Unfortunately we
• 58:10
  don't. It's tough because yeah, I don't think either of them are are
• 58:20
  are the guy? Like? They're probably good players to bring off the bench
• 58:23
  in the eightieth minute, but are they really the guy like? You know,
• 58:28
  both of them six goals in twenty games in city, which honesty is
• 58:31
  fine. Again, it's good for someone who wants to come off the bench,
• 58:35
  But to be relying on these guys, I don't know what's the alternative.
• 58:38
  I don't know. Unfortunately, you know itmobile is not it ballatality,
• 58:45
  it's not twenty twelve. That's pretty much a Keys is not a striker.
• 58:50
  He's not playing you know who else we got guys? I don't. Jadny
• 59:00
  probably knows more. But does he ever play as a typical number nine?
• 59:04
  You know, if anything, when he comes off the bench, know when
• 59:07
  he replaces somebody in that talking No, sometimes like it's not it's it's rare
• 59:16
  that he'll start a game as the number nine, unless there's an injury.
• 59:21
  It's it's always been awestine man. There's times where it's like it was him
• 59:24
  over simeone for some odd reason, as he has that capability. But I'm
• 59:29
  not saying he should be the natural striker to go with all the time,
• 59:32
  you could play him in in a false nine system, like the way Spalletti
• 59:38
  was kind of doing it at the beginning. Uh, it'll be singing in
• 59:44
  my house. I don't know. It's like, okay, what's going on
• 59:46
  here? Uh's not games? Uh? I I would go for I would
• 1:00:14
  honestly, like, given the choices, I'd go for a gee I I
• 1:00:16
  think uh uh, it's it's been more natural for him, and he's had
• 1:00:22
  flashes where he's just been brilliant for the team. Skamaka. I'm checked out
• 1:00:28
  on Skamaka. He just he feels I think remember that joke that I I
• 1:00:31
  tweeted, somehow gained a little bit attraction, Like Skamaka moves like a fridge.
• 1:00:36
  I don't know, I don't know how to describe it, Like he
• 1:00:37
  plays like a fridge. I just I just said it as a joke,
• 1:00:40
  and then all of a sudden it picked up. Yeah, like it just
• 1:00:45
  no, but like like like not like in a good way, like you
• 1:00:46
  literally just just like it's it's bulky, it's slow, you need you need
• 1:00:52
  people to move him around. Yeah, exactly, it's a he's a fridge.
• 1:00:59
  I I I'm not too keen on him. Uh speaking ski Rasadi,
• 1:01:07
  I would I would prefer to if you're gonna use him, use him as
• 1:01:12
  the as the sub for the striker slot. If not, you know,
• 1:01:15
  I play him on the wings too, but I would use him as I
• 1:01:19
  would. I would. One thing I say is I never I never chose
• 1:01:23
  one. If if it's true that they're gonna go to uh three four three,
• 1:01:29
  I feel like if they play with three four two one, if they
• 1:01:34
  play with that formation, I feel like the front three forwards are a bit
• 1:01:38
  more fluid than like a four three three, where you have your wingers pretty
• 1:01:42
  rigid in their their positions going up and down the field. And if they
• 1:01:45
  do play with Kys and Pellegrini or or other players like Orcelini's Annoloa, those
• 1:01:52
  players can move around. So if you're gonna have that, I would I
• 1:01:57
  I would take with because he has a bit more nobility. Scamaka is the
• 1:02:00
  tiger guy. Maybe Scamaka is the guy you bring on the eedieth minute when
• 1:02:05
  when you're down one and you need just a big guy, a big guy
• 1:02:07
  across it into but yeah, by one thing with it Rete. I hate
• 1:02:13
  to say it, but he just doesn't have enough European experiency. He hasn't
• 1:02:17
  he hasn't he hasn't played champions, he hasn't played any Euros. He's barely
• 1:02:22
  played with Italy. And I know that that really shouldn't mean much. But
• 1:02:28
  for a guy coming from South America to Europe, there's a transition, right,
• 1:02:31
  So it's tough. Like they played. They have these two friendlies coming
• 1:02:37
  up, was it against Venezuela and Peru Ecador? Well, Ecuador, we'll
• 1:02:44
  see like that. Come on, guys, it's a training match for them.
• 1:02:47
  Well, we'll see how how they how they line up. But yeah,
• 1:02:52
  it'll be interesting to see how What I'll say is that for me,
• 1:02:57
  it pains me to safe because I think Skamaka has all the measurables and all
• 1:03:01
  the the protypical number nine. I think, uh, you know, in
• 1:03:06
  terms of physique, in terms of in terms of what you want as a
• 1:03:10
  as as a target man or a guy who can play that striker position Iskamaka,
• 1:03:15
  but unfortunately, the uh, the the productivity hasn't been there. I
• 1:03:21
  haven't totally given up on Scamaca because I think in the right frame of mind,
• 1:03:24
  in the right system, in the right circumstances, I think he can
• 1:03:28
  still performed, he can still for perform. He scored today right THETA against
• 1:03:34
  the sport team. But I'm going to retag. You know, I'm again
• 1:03:38
  call me big on the Retegi hype train. I don't care for me.
• 1:03:43
  He's the guy up top and what you know, doesn't have the experience.
• 1:03:49
  This guy was barely a week ind with the training and the training and got
• 1:03:52
  over channel. He comes on, scores two goals, scores a goal,
• 1:03:55
  scores two goals. He didn't even know the language, he didn't even know
• 1:03:59
  he was Italian. So for me, I don't think he's scared. I
• 1:04:01
  think he's a player that not really much fear. From what I've understood and
• 1:04:05
  what I've seen a small sample size, he's he's he's embraced being part of
• 1:04:12
  this national team. Spallettia has has has watched him and has seen what he's
• 1:04:17
  been able to do. And I think hopefully he likes him enough to to
• 1:04:21
  to give him that shot because and I'm glad you brought up the point of
• 1:04:26
  if we changed this formation. There's been the big rumors today and the big
• 1:04:30
  big talking point in terms of in terms of the Ajuri, there's three,
• 1:04:32
  there's three, four, you know two one that I don't even really think
• 1:04:38
  it matters who the hell you put up there at that at that nine,
• 1:04:41
  because you have the two guys that are right behind you that are playing kind
• 1:04:45
  of not really wingers per se. So there you can throw in a kidori
• 1:04:53
  who are able to produce and able to create and kind of take on a
• 1:04:57
  man. One of them is some some one of a striker, somewhat of
• 1:05:00
  a winger. The other one we know is better on the wing, but
• 1:05:03
  anywhere closer to goal he's able to perform at you know, so I think
• 1:05:10
  in terms of being able to play off of somebody, I think TEK you
• 1:05:13
  can kind of hopefully produce that. Yeah, I honestly I don't see.
• 1:05:21
  Again maybe this is really again one hundred days away from from the Euros as
• 1:05:25
  I was seeing. But I don't know. I really don't think if we
• 1:05:29
  stick to this formation, which I don't see why Stelective wouldn't attempt to try
• 1:05:35
  it, there's there's something to be had there because I think those four positions
• 1:05:41
  are are food enough to say that, you know, we can probably produce
• 1:05:45
  and create chances and hopefully score goals. That it doesn't really matter if it's
• 1:05:49
  the nine, you know, before the four to three to three, we
• 1:05:55
  really had to expect our nine to produce that at a level where is what
• 1:05:59
  I'm supposed to score goals and get those opportunities. Unfortunately, we got help
• 1:06:03
  from other areas which took us over the line. Yes, but at the
• 1:06:08
  end of it, it's still go after in a position where it's like we're
• 1:06:11
  still talking about the Azuri and the number nine position striker, right, So,
• 1:06:15
  I don't know. I'm big on again, I'm going back and circling.
• 1:06:18
  I'm big on the Retegne hype Traine. I hope it works out.
• 1:06:21
  I want to see him there. People are going to try to throw other
• 1:06:27
  names, bring them on, bring them in, you know, include them
• 1:06:30
  into the into the system. But until we find somebody that's really proven,
• 1:06:35
  we have to stick to somebody who's a somebody for me that I'm sticking on
• 1:06:39
  to currently Retegi at the number nine. Moving back in uh in the formation.
• 1:06:48
  We got a question about midfielders. First one two questions. I mean
• 1:06:54
  we could just answer it in one. Why should Christante be in the starting
• 1:06:57
  eleven? No Gabia, no Mancini, or they're not good enough in our
• 1:07:00
  pool Ricardo Colminelli and then from our friend Martino Pucco. Who would you guys
• 1:07:05
  start in Italy's midfield for the Euros this summer? Again, I mean,
• 1:07:11
  I'll just start Christante. I've always talked highly of Christante. I think he's
• 1:07:15
  a good role player. I think he was solid for the Italy at the
• 1:07:17
  Euros three years ago. I think he slid for Roma. But I don't
• 1:07:21
  know if he's a starter. Like again, he's that guy you bring off
• 1:07:26
  the bench and where you bring it on the bench and you rely on him.
• 1:07:30
  But who's gonna start? I don't know. And you know what,
• 1:07:33
  That's what made Italy strong three years ago was that midfield. Yeah right,
• 1:07:41
  it was that that that midfield that had three four guys that came in and
• 1:07:46
  started. And unfortunately we're just not. I don't think we have that this
• 1:07:51
  are yet. If you go three four two one, you only have really
• 1:07:54
  two midfielders. So you know, find two guys that's it Burrella and who
• 1:08:00
  else? That's the question. Is it Christante? Technically I think Christante could
• 1:08:04
  play well in that role, but again not as a starter. Look at
• 1:08:08
  Telly, I know, I think he could do a good job, but
• 1:08:14
  again, I think he's the same same level as Christante. Not a starter,
• 1:08:17
  Georgino dead to me? What else we got? Are we just gonna
• 1:08:23
  go with an inter midfield? Why not? Why not Frantisi and Burrell?
• 1:08:27
  I mean they're the best, They're the best team right now. Yeah,
• 1:08:30
  exactly exactly. I mean this is not gonna be. This is not gonna
• 1:08:34
  be Georgino, Verati Burrella from three years ago, where you know, even
• 1:08:39
  Local tell he was informed. But uh, you know, like if if
• 1:08:44
  we could have Christante and Local Telly coming off the bench, that's probably that
• 1:08:47
  for me, that's ideal. But who are the starters? Yeah, Johnny,
• 1:08:51
  I don't know if you have any other like like, it's a shameful
• 1:08:56
  ni obviously like that. That obviously, Yeah, that really speaking about a
• 1:09:00
  lot that that That hurts for me because listen, if you go back to
• 1:09:04
  our shows back three years ago or even before that, in terms of Italy
• 1:09:08
  their midfield, we really spoke highly about all that, right, We had
• 1:09:11
  we had a Fouria players that at the time were were available and and and
• 1:09:15
  playing well. Have we kind of digressed from that a bit? Maybe because
• 1:09:21
  like Nick said last last Euros we were talking about that midfield three of of
• 1:09:27
  of Barrella, Verati and Georgino, that we're playing at an all time high.
• 1:09:31
  And and even with a Verdati that was in to start the tournament,
• 1:09:35
  we got a local Telly that was that was playing well enough to merit a
• 1:09:39
  spot. Unfortunately, you know, two of those guys are are or even
• 1:09:45
  all three of those guys are really not not I'm gonna say out of the
• 1:09:47
  picture. It seems like Veratti is probably out of the picture. But Georgino,
• 1:09:53
  I don't know, Like Nix says that to me, I kind of
• 1:09:57
  can't really say much to to say otherwise. But and Lokal Telly for me,
• 1:10:01
  like again, it's not local tell, it's it's this current u very
• 1:10:05
  local Telly that yeah, one match that he might look good, but the
• 1:10:11
  other three doesn't look anywhere near what we expect local Telly to be. So
• 1:10:15
  for me, he's not in that starting line now, but he's still he's
• 1:10:17
  still solid. Like he's not scoring goals like he did as a solo,
• 1:10:19
  and that's just because of his role, but doesn't mean field need to score
• 1:10:23
  goals like he does. And the reason no one talks about local Telly,
• 1:10:26
  and you is because he's not making mistakes. It's almost like you don't talk
• 1:10:30
  about a defender because he doesn't make mistakes. That's how I see local telling.
• 1:10:33
  But again, I don't know. I still think, I don't know
• 1:10:36
  there's been a there's been a decrease in his point. I don't think he's
• 1:10:40
  he's at the level that people probably want him. Man, that's that's my
• 1:10:45
  that's my my thought on that. But and you guys know how I feel
• 1:10:48
  about your stunting. I know people to say, yeah, he's good,
• 1:10:51
  he's this, he's that, he's he's a role player, he plays well
• 1:10:56
  you put him in. And maybe I'm gonna have to bite that boat and
• 1:11:00
  say, fuck, it's going to have to Bella and christante As are starting
• 1:11:03
  duo. But I don't know, like does a bond of Intwitter fit in
• 1:11:08
  that role? I don't know, does fate It seems to be, you
• 1:11:13
  know, going off the prodict, the predicted lineup of the formation change,
• 1:11:19
  it seems like we're going with an inter back line. So is an inter
• 1:11:25
  midfield dual the other alternative? As much as the Pains has to say,
• 1:11:30
  maybe so. But yeah, butline, oh, that's really the question we
• 1:11:35
  have. We have a couple of months left to kind of figure that out.
• 1:11:41
  It's a shame we don't have more of a concrete answer to that.
• 1:11:44
  But I don't know. I would I would say, but then people say,
• 1:11:49
  well, they're the same player. There should be a balance in that
• 1:11:54
  midfield. Maybe, but you know, tell me another option. I guess
• 1:11:58
  we'll we'll have to kind of roll with with what we have. I don't
• 1:12:00
  know, Johnny, you guys are forgetting one guy. It was really hot
• 1:12:05
  at the beginning of the season, and right now because he's been a little
• 1:12:10
  bit quiet, he is not getting any kind of love Jaco. That was
• 1:12:14
  good Jacobo. Yeah, but like he's calmed down a lot since the start,
• 1:12:24
  since the Hots start at the beginning of the season. I consider him
• 1:12:28
  an option. Uh, honestly speaking, we know the I think it just
• 1:12:32
  seems like Badela is the lock. Besides that, it just seems the other
• 1:12:35
  spots could just rotate. Like you could put Georgino in, you could put
• 1:12:41
  you could put like yeah, not having not having tonality anymore really fucks the
• 1:12:45
  team. But you guys can put, you can put you can have to
• 1:12:49
  come off the bench for more defensive or offensive rod because he can play both
• 1:12:53
  ends. Look at Delli, uh, you know, like that's another option
• 1:12:56
  too. They have flexibility, which is nice. They have the star quality
• 1:13:00
  midfield that they hadn't in the last Euros. No, but they have,
• 1:13:04
  they have, they still have quality, they still have options. It's it's
• 1:13:09
  good because just like the flexibility can work in their favor as a Swiss army.
• 1:13:13
  And they're not gonna be like a dominating midfield like Spain was. But
• 1:13:15
  they're not going to be a horrendous midfield. It's just gonna cost them every
• 1:13:18
  win. You know. It's it's gonna be a team that the midfield wouldn't
• 1:13:25
  be the question mark of the team. It's obviously going to be the back
• 1:13:28
  line. And that's and I'm still going to stand by this. The back
• 1:13:30
  line, uh is what will hurt them the most. We always we keep
• 1:13:34
  on having discussions on who are starting CBS are going to be. We still
• 1:13:39
  don't have a certainty going forward, like Okay, these guys are are locked
• 1:13:41
  CBS and that's that's that's scary, you know, that's that's something where it's
• 1:13:45
  like we need to to consider it's like, because that too, you can
• 1:13:49
  have a bunch of it's a rotating door, not in a bad way,
• 1:13:53
  but not in a good way either. It's like you have no stability,
• 1:13:55
  you have no rocks. But it's not like as if you don't have options
• 1:13:58
  to choose from. So with three, who would you put? Person personally
• 1:14:03
  speaking? Personally speaking, this is just and I'm doing as unbiased as possible
• 1:14:08
  given recent form and what they've been doing. You put Bla, you put
• 1:14:13
  Tristan and uh no, no, the back three the beat, the three
• 1:14:19
  in the back. Yeah, you could go with the guys. I feel
• 1:14:27
  like I feel like Mancini makes it like are you kidding me? Like I
• 1:14:31
  don't having a great season, and that's what the Manco's there for sure.
• 1:14:38
  Yeah, I'm talking about just the three, just the three beats, because
• 1:14:41
  if we're gonna go with this three, which I'm not opposed to by the
• 1:14:44
  way, like I I wrote, not, but like I don't know,
• 1:14:49
  like we were almost off the chauld be trained last time around. He's still
• 1:14:55
  there. I don't know, Like I guess we haven we might not have
• 1:15:00
  a choice in terms of that, we're gonna have to stick with the inter
• 1:15:02
  trio and and you know if Spoet is gonna go with that and and what
• 1:15:08
  brought us success in the past, having that chemistry in the back right.
• 1:15:12
  We've always said it there. I know Nick has said it a lot in
• 1:15:15
  terms of having that that trio of of of defenders and okay, in that
• 1:15:19
  case obviously even though the goalkeeper was part of that same you know harmony.
• 1:15:25
  But uh, I don't know, Like for me, Doci Mana is not
• 1:15:30
  a national team player, but I think unfortunately, you know, he's having
• 1:15:33
  a good season, we might have no choice but to put him in there.
• 1:15:39
  I like, I don't know. For for me, it's it's there's
• 1:15:43
  too many questions marks like I really don't know, like, but it almost
• 1:15:45
  seems like the midfielder the midfield is is and who And for me, the
• 1:15:49
  CBS are Bustonian who like currently what they're showing is you know, a Chardab
• 1:15:57
  and Doman. Okay, those are options, I guess. But you know,
• 1:16:03
  there's a guy like there is a guy like Mancini, there is a
• 1:16:05
  guy like one Jordano. There is a guy like Sculvini, which I like,
• 1:16:12
  you know, heck, even Romannoli on his days he's serviceable enough.
• 1:16:17
  But you know, I don't know, like do you see how do you
• 1:16:21
  guys see otherwise? Or or or is it really a shambles the back line?
• 1:16:29
  I think the entire users in shamples like this is not the team that
• 1:16:31
  just won the Eros, Like we're guys, we're not going far. This
• 1:16:34
  is this is, this is if we win the Euros this year, this
• 1:16:36
  is this is repeater griso for more of a miracle than it was three years
• 1:16:41
  ago. No, but like you know, looking back one of the Euros
• 1:16:47
  three years ago, everyone was hot at the right time. Everything worked out.
• 1:16:51
  Killeeny was still playing. Wouldn't you still playing playing? Well, you
• 1:16:55
  know, just things worked out and there's a lot of bandings with this twy
• 1:17:00
  squad right now that you know, after missing another World Cup, they haven't
• 1:17:04
  really had time to really glue together, you know again new coaching. Sure
• 1:17:11
  you could have said the same thing with Mancini, but Mancini had three years
• 1:17:15
  from the time he innarrated the team. It was three years and two euros.
• 1:17:19
  That extra year break. I think we talked about it. Gaven gave
• 1:17:23
  Italy an advantage. I don't know if they would have won in twenty twenty
• 1:17:29
  and spell, it's a year. It's a year with this team. He's
• 1:17:31
  putting in an ower situation. So I don't know. I think I put
• 1:17:38
  the faith in. Has it been a year? No, September, last
• 1:17:43
  summer? No? Well, okay, by the time Heroes will be a
• 1:17:46
  year. Yeah, because I was about to say, like Nick, like
• 1:17:48
  what the hell, buddy, Like, what the hell did I miss out
• 1:17:50
  on? I know my life's been a mess since they started. Yeah,
• 1:17:58
  but by the time it's the year was event okay? And plus he hasn't
• 1:18:02
  really had many really games and time with the team and what players in,
• 1:18:10
  what players out? I don't know, like the CBS again, I'm really
• 1:18:15
  I'm really not sure. I'm really I'm really not sure. Like I'm I
• 1:18:20
  don't know. I think like you said that, like last last time around,
• 1:18:25
  you know, players were were in good form. We wrote that form
• 1:18:29
  those players played well. Intern is the best team in Italy. Currently they're
• 1:18:34
  not waking any goals or very few. Their defensive line seems to be maybe
• 1:18:42
  the route we go with. I don't know, I really uh And and
• 1:18:46
  you know what again, I think if that's the case, then hey,
• 1:18:49
  we ride that we see how far that takes us. Because they know each
• 1:18:54
  other clearly, they've they're on a high, they're on pace to windows Gubeto.
• 1:18:59
  They may to a Champions League final last season. They can potentially see
• 1:19:03
  how far they go in Champions League this year with that same core of players,
• 1:19:11
  you know, those wing backs. If we go with this three this
• 1:19:13
  three four two one, I think the Arenzo and DeMarco are locks in my
• 1:19:16
  opinion, two quality players in my eyes. Uh, people are shipped on
• 1:19:24
  the Arenzo, but I still think he's there. De Marco I think it
• 1:19:28
  goes without saying he's uh, that's his role and that's his position. He
• 1:19:32
  does it really well. Hopefully he has a Hopefully DeMarco has a year that
• 1:19:40
  you know, spina Zola was having three years ago where he was a real
• 1:19:44
  big focal point. He really, you know, man the match almost every
• 1:19:47
  almost every time they went out and played. It's that back line that I'm
• 1:19:54
  I'm still up in airs with. Johnny mentioned Mancini. I mentioned some other
• 1:19:59
  names too, but Jordano, s Calvini, Romano I think are serviceable enough
• 1:20:04
  to say that they could get in there at certain moments in the in the
• 1:20:08
  matches. I don't know, uh, goalkeepers, I think we're set to.
• 1:20:15
  For me, it's on the Roma, Vicadio and Provado and I think,
• 1:20:19
  you know, we take it from there. Lots lots to be determined
• 1:20:26
  between now and June. But June fifteenth, guys, mark your cale.
• 1:20:30
  There is free start of start of the Euros. It's I think it's U
• 1:20:35
  fifteenth first game. Yeah, it's June fifteenth, fourteen fifty three. Yeah,
• 1:20:40
  the eurostarge in fourteenth. But well we'll wait and see for that.
• 1:20:45
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