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🔥 The End of an Era: Draconian Measures Gamefound Wrap-Up! · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 4: So I was looking at Patreon because I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: it after the christs. Are you trying to link the
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  Speaker 2: Patreon and the discord?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are me and want to make it happen.
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 2: And all this jazz. It was a pain in the ass.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, he's trying to link patreonic discord
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  Speaker 2: and it doesn't fucking work. Like for whatever reason, I
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  Speaker 2: always saw him going and like, yeah, trying to get
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  Speaker 2: people registered. That seemed annoying.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to deal with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and they have to link their Patreon with
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  Speaker 2: their discord before it'll actually happen. Well, I wasn't. Well,
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  Speaker 2: well we'll see. Maybe maybe you just have the secret sauce,
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  Speaker 2: my guy, that's all I want. But I wanted this
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well maybe because they've actually done something in their
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  Speaker 2: key for it careers. Das has been Yeah, drash Cords
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  Speaker 2: did something once upon a time.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, that's right, My locals are better than me.
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  Speaker 2: Yea, daz cor is a fairy tale and I still suck,
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  Speaker 2: but I can still drink real good. That's all that
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  Speaker 2: really honestly matters. Right at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: We've we've come to we've all come to the real
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  Speaker 2: kith Forge. That's drinking. But what's going on? Everybody? I'm
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  Speaker 2: the one, the only, the w o okay, I e
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  Speaker 2: joined here by the usual cast of misfits. We got
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  Speaker 2: the drazz Score guys, doctor m Sheep, and the Ewakeyist
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  Speaker 2: of Ewoks.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, Key Fords community, glad to hear this rambling again.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we we do lots of stuff and things. I'm tired,
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  Speaker 2: you're tired.
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  Speaker 1: We really we really don't do stuff and things.
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  Speaker 2: But sometimes we do stuff and things.
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  Speaker 3: I had a buddy cub and we played board games
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  Speaker 3: this evening.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wild you play.
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  Speaker 3: Kin Fire and uh thunder Road Vendetta.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I want to play one?
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  Speaker 3: Beat us again in thunder Road.
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  Speaker 2: This is going terrible for the Brewers. What is going on?
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  Speaker 2: Why is it going to be? Why are we going
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  Speaker 2: to a game five? This is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: I think I played thunder Road back in nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 2: You know, wait, isn't thunder Road that one that we
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  Speaker 2: played at the at the Cold Festival with the bikes
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  Speaker 2: and the cars? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that game is fun.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't when but that game was fun. I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: But lots of news and stuff going on. Evansville is
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. Who are any y'all going. Drascourt's probably gone,
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  Speaker 2: he's got nothing going on. No, unfortunately, unfortunately not. No,
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  Speaker 2: it does look really cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it is kind of a pain in
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  Speaker 4: the butt to get to if you're not in the area.
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  Speaker 4: If you're like in the area, it's like within two
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  Speaker 4: ish hours of a whole bunch of Midwest cities. So
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  Speaker 4: like one hundred percent get why you know that spot
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  Speaker 4: is getting picked, But if you're not from the area,
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  Speaker 4: getting there is a little bit of a hassle. There's
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  Speaker 4: no direct flights really from from much of anywhere, so
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  Speaker 4: I either have to get a connection or like you know,
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  Speaker 4: stop in one of those other cities, and then I
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  Speaker 4: rent a car and drive there, neither which are appealing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and then it just it's just you know, a lot.
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  Speaker 4: And I just bought two thousand dollars worth of power tokens.
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  Speaker 1: So the talkans entire.
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  Speaker 2: Dragons and exhausta dragons. They're tired super super dragons.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and it's like my you know, Matt
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  Speaker 4: the getting Boba before uh you know, key for tonight's night,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm there ordering and then I I'm waiting, but
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  Speaker 4: at my phone right and then you know, I get
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  Speaker 4: your American Express bill is already like I am not
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  Speaker 4: clicking on that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so and then his wife did drive score is
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  Speaker 2: now grounded, I think like a my email address. So
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know you could ground grown men. But here
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  Speaker 2: we are.
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  Speaker 4: Let it happen.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of the game found, game Found did reach three
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  Speaker 2: hundred one thousand with a little extra, right, Oh, is
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  Speaker 2: that is that the time it took? I was going
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  Speaker 2: to ask if we if they had an official timing
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  Speaker 2: or we got anything.
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  Speaker 4: They posted that it was five hours and fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 4: and how much should they get? Basically they were standing
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  Speaker 4: at it added nearly twelve to the so that wasn't
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  Speaker 4: too bad. And so there were definitely they were really
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  Speaker 4: some people on a c Maybe they was buys Oliver
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  Speaker 4: and helping featureself like people were like egging each other onto.
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  Speaker 2: Like buy more.
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  Speaker 4: So of course, probably half that of Sydney buying just
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  Speaker 4: you know is jam dex Oh you think jam about
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  Speaker 4: a whole? Do you think about watch?
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  Speaker 3: And uh zenz z Zenzi bought a bunch of ecks
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  Speaker 3: for stuff I like looked a couple of times and
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  Speaker 3: went I'm not pledged. I could pledge to help out,
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  Speaker 3: And then I kept looking at the rewards and going,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want any of this.
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  Speaker 2: I already own all of this, Like I.
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  Speaker 3: Want one dragon scale deck, and there was nothing else
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  Speaker 3: in the awards, Like I don't really care if I
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  Speaker 3: get a guarantee gigantic deck. I don't care if I
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  Speaker 3: get a full deck. I'm not waiting for a random
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  Speaker 3: full foil deck. M It's just like the truth and
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  Speaker 3: you know, like we keep asking for special prints and whatever,
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  Speaker 3: but there's also this the truth of it where who cares? Right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: you get so many bad decks that have special print
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  Speaker 3: run and they don't mean much. Like I'm in the
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  Speaker 3: process of trying to collect a foil set, so people
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  Speaker 3: out there, if you have boils that you don't care
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  Speaker 3: much about, let me know. But I'm not willing to
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  Speaker 3: pay premium prices for bad foil card decks, right like
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  Speaker 3: I'm willing to pay bulk rate for your bulk rate decks. Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: I mean like hopefully you didn't pay too much for
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  Speaker 3: them when you got them. But yeah, like a bad
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  Speaker 3: deck with a foil I mean, the only card I
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  Speaker 3: even care about and the whole deck is the foil.
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  Speaker 3: The other thirty five cards could almost go in the
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  Speaker 3: trash as far as I'm concerned. They don't sitting in
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  Speaker 3: a box because I'm not a monster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is kind of the problem, right like, and
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  Speaker 2: this is why, Like originally I was like, we wanted foils,
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  Speaker 2: and it is a great idea. However, we need to
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  Speaker 2: be able to, like I don't know that we need
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  Speaker 2: to be able to somehow, some way be able to
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  Speaker 2: besides Sleeves customize our decks while maintaining the that's while
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  Speaker 2: maintaining it. And we've given them a million chances to
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  Speaker 2: be like this is doable. They've never come right out
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  Speaker 2: and be like, this is why this is a doable
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  Speaker 2: So I don't I still don't understand why it's not doable.
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  Speaker 3: Well, right, letting us proxy into our deck would be cool,
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  Speaker 3: but enhancements makes it messy.
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  Speaker 2: Enhancements does make it messy, which you know you.
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  Speaker 3: Just say, well, you can't proc proxy and enhanced card
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  Speaker 3: too darn bad, Like that's just part of life, right Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't see why you couldn't proxy in a non
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  Speaker 3: enhanced card if you had one because of sleeves. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they just they just don't let us because functionally, even
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  Speaker 3: the foil cards are sort of proxies, right, they were
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  Speaker 3: printed on a separate print run and then set in
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  Speaker 3: the deck, replacing the card that it was supposed to be.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess, but I mean I've never looked, but
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  Speaker 3: even when you feel those foil cards, you sometimes can
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  Speaker 3: tell which card is foil and a foil deck when
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  Speaker 3: you shuffle it if it isn't sleeved, not just because
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  Speaker 3: of the curve, but because the cut can be just
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  Speaker 3: just a little bit different. It has a little bit
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  Speaker 3: like of a different embossed edge feeling to it and
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  Speaker 3: stuff too.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it a little thicker, it could.
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  Speaker 3: Be that might be what I'm feeling. So yeah, I mean, like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: foils in this stuff, making them making it so we
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  Speaker 3: can put it in decks that we actually play would
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  Speaker 3: would be nice. And if it's going to be not
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: about putting the fancy cards in the decks you have
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  Speaker 3: to play, then they have to open one of these
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  Speaker 3: awful formats. Everybody else or some loud small minority is
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  Speaker 3: asking for like a.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you're very vocal on ac they are,
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  Speaker 2: you think I don't know what else away.
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  Speaker 3: No, because only people that disturbed are swoop sticking around
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  Speaker 3: in general, like, everybody's still in key Forge has got
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: something wrong in their brain, whether it's something like adaptive
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: or whatever's wrong with us, right, but something wrong.
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  Speaker 2: My daddy never came home with the milk.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, so but yeah, like it is a little
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  Speaker 3: disappointing to some extent. You know, I've collected one of
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  Speaker 3: every back of everything I've mad able to get my
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  Speaker 3: hands on, and now I'm collecting a bunch of foils,
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  Speaker 3: and outside of having pretties to look at, they're functionally worthless.
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  Speaker 2: And monetarily and monetarily, so I would be really if
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  Speaker 2: you look at my.
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  Speaker 3: Collection, it's worth negative twenty two dollars. You would have
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  Speaker 3: to pay the shipping to give this to somebody.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably less than that. I don't want to burst
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  Speaker 2: your path.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, my collection of miss lay stuff, you would
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  Speaker 3: have to pay the shipping to get somebody your ticket.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think somebody would pay the shipping to have it.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say I would, but I'm so close I probably wouldn't. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the real question is if like how many full foil
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  Speaker 2: decks that they sell. I'm curious.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will be annoyed if the back of the
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  Speaker 3: full foil decks look different in anyway, because that is
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  Speaker 3: something I've been collecting. But even that, I'm sure I'll
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  Speaker 3: be able to get a crappy full foil for cheap
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  Speaker 3: cheap enough.
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  Speaker 2: Sure you will. I just still, you know it's again,
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  Speaker 2: it's something we've talked about many, many times. I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand why I even messaged Jeremy whatever I tell to him.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, here's another free idea for me. Hands,
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: ye tiny hands, I said, here's another free, easy idea
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  Speaker 2: for you. I don't know how easy it would be,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: but deck name changes. I want my favorite love deck
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  Speaker 2: to have blah blah blah call sign in it.
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  Speaker 3: Hm, that's a back end database change thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, don't know how easy that would be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know I will they want.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that. I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: that would probably pay about one hundred dollars to get
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: their favorite deck's name change to something with their call
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  Speaker 2: sign in it. I would make your name.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: You know, Wookie is going to get a deck that
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  Speaker 4: just says butt spots butts.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, but spots butts Butts likely would have to review it.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Right now, there is a.
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  Speaker 3: Funny a funny thing in my mentality and mind you,
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  Speaker 3: I have a relatively low value of things that are
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: algorithmically generated key Forge and the fact that it is
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: unique in some way makes it value, you know, like
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: you know how people are. They're like, oh, every deck's unique,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta keep it. I don't care about that. I
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  Speaker 3: don't care about the names. But something about naming the
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  Speaker 3: deck after it's generated feels raw. It just doesn't feel right.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like on the same level as Alliance, right,
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  Speaker 4: just not.
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  Speaker 2: What You've never adopted a pattern changed its name, It
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  Speaker 2: just kept the size.
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  Speaker 3: No, definitely adopted changed his name.
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  Speaker 2: The same thing, not the same thing. It's the same
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  Speaker 2: thing now.
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  Speaker 3: No, because it's like a created identity.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Adopt a human child and change their name.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I've never got a rescue dog and
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  Speaker 3: changed back to make it so the previous owner couldn't
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  Speaker 3: track it. Are you equating humans the key Forge decks?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: You know? Do you have a collection of humans in
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  Speaker 2: your basement or what is there? Do we need to
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: make a phone call or my basement's great, just come
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: check it. Out. I promise pretty soon you'll see it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: It was local man as collection of humans in his basement.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh, butts written at its forehead. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just I thought a name change. Like I think
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  Speaker 2: there'd be plenty of people out there that would pay
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  Speaker 2: I said, fifty to one hundred dollars to change the
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  Speaker 2: name on a deck.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like, so like, I don't like the idea.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like it because.
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  Speaker 3: So do you know what? Do you know what I
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: would do with that? I know what I would do
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: with that. You would do something not yes, I would
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: intentionally like borrow Aria or something from x ray. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: would borrow something from x ray, x ray. Let me
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: play Browning. Oh you need to transfer to me ownership
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: for some reason, right because we're not for I don't know.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: And then then while I own it, rename it with
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: a trolling name, and then give it back to them.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: That's what I would use that feature for, is I
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: would really people's to horrible things and give it back.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: That's like if you're if you're like going back through
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: the pages of history of key Forge, and you're like,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: let me go find gas Mask gas Max.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's named and now it's named Compacted d.
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  Speaker 4: H exactly like that, right, Like, I don't know, Aria
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  Speaker 4: Pylon Genius. That is not an amazing name. It's a
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  Speaker 4: fine name, but like to just go and change it
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  Speaker 4: feels like you're cheapening the the beauty of the unique
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  Speaker 4: deck concept.
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  Speaker 3: But I also wouldn't care if other people did it,
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm not whatever, It's not something I would do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: Again, I'm the only way somebody would. Somebody would buy
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  Speaker 3: a deck from me, and then I would spend the
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  Speaker 3: money to change the name before I ship into I
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  Speaker 3: would ever see doing with it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Sell deck to JML and change the name to the
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: best Master Rule us.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, this is the only way I see using this.
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  Speaker 3: Well because I'm a child.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well fine, speaking of printing decks and changing their names,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: but you can't change your names. Will call decks now,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: will call clone decks. So you are able to have
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: some decks printed up if you're looking for to pick
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: up some decks and pick them up at your friendly
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: local gaming store in Minnesota, i e. The Game center
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: at key Forge Celebration. Is there a discount for this
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: or I just don't have to pay shipping.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, you don't have to pay shipping, which because that
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  Speaker 4: I don't think a discount.
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  Speaker 2: Is it guaranteed to be ready for me by the
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  Speaker 2: time I get to the games center? If that's the yes,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I don't like that last time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing they shouldn't screw gg promise. Yeah
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  Speaker 4: sometimes I would sometimes of shit, but like, this is
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  Speaker 4: the sort of promise you really have to keep. If
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  Speaker 4: somebody's like, I'm gonna show up without a deck because
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: it's waiting there for me, and they're like oops, Like no,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I disagree with persons demanding a refund.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: And imagine if that deck that's your deck you're playing
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: in one of the opens.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I disagree about that. I mean, you can honestly see
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they have a they have a cutoff date. It is
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: October twenty six, and so with that one hundred percent
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: they will be able to make sure happy there.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be there's only gonna be thirty five cards
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: in your reprint deck. What did you do? It's happier
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: deck and half somebody else's deck.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I will say that Joshua I hadn't talked
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: about this, and it is really to try and get
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: around individuals who are showing up at tournaments and they
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: don't have ownership. In order to get it printed, you
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: have to have ownership. So I don't know. I like
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this feature. I think it's a great feature. And if
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it allows some people, or even if it's just one person,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I still think that's better for.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: The internationals that are coming, or even the friend internationals
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: who have friends that are going. Because the Internet, I
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: can only imagine what the cost is to ship a
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: clone deck internationally.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Sure, I would also argue, I would also argue if
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you're getting a if you're getting a deck from someone
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: who is international, it's much easier to transition that digitally
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and then have it there for pickup.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: So yes, also, and you don't have to play it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And that language I still remember at a time there,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: at one point in time, they are telling me that
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: all my decks had to be in the language of
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the tournament, which would have been English.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: That that was a lie rule book. Right, No, that's
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: not in the rule book. We looked the not the
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: rule book, the whatever t RG Yeah, rules guidelines. It
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: has to be in the language of the tournament organizer
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: accepts or whatever.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Right, which didn't wasn't I want to say, was Spain
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: exercise that rule?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I remember that correct TV? No TV because they don't
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: have it. Okay, so it wasn't a language.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, well and it Yeah it wasn't maybe because it
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: wasn't Spanish, because I don't know.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were angry at Sheep last year for taking seconds,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: so they're like, if it's not in Spanish, you don't
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: get to play it. Get out which turn in the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: low turnout?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Well past your asses? Also, that wasn't there either
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: wash yeah, pastor ass one?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Oh did it? I don't know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: That's what beat me.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm saying this year, not last year. Now
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: this year, yeah, not last year? All right, next, you're
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: so friendly today, just like mm hmmm, i'll see Q changes.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Previously it was going to be CE see it is
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: now sealed prophetic visions. That's what you'll be playing. Yeah, which.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I did not ask for this, for this change myself, alight.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: So I did submit email, But this is not what
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I asked for.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: This is not what you had in mind.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: I'd rather I would.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Rather play CC no powers. I think that would have
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: been good.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no powers for sure. But but we knew
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: that that wasn't gonna happen, just except that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: You added something to the game that didn't need to
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: be there and just say Okay, we're not we're not
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: going to use it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're not. There's no way they're going to
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: do that, right, So, because that would be admitting that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: So what eyes met and they should do VM twenty
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: five because.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Everybody, but they don't have any and they're not going
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: to print more.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: They could, they could do special, They could just run
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: when they do these clone decks.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Just there was a lot of rumors talk about fifty
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: boxes is the minimum print run is what I saw.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: He owns the freaking company.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: There's not Yeah box and the man says fifty box,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: this is the minimum.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: But they don't. So they don't when they print these
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: clone decks. There's no way they print fifty boxes worth right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: The different way just a special difference between clone decks,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: and that is packaging. Now, yep, they wouldn't. They don't
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: actually need to package the VM twenty five.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: They're just putting in.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm not just saying what I saw people talking about,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: but I think if one hundred and fifty people came
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: and they printed fifty If that's all it was, was
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: fifty more boxes and a third of that's going to
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: be used as the pre sold sealed, I don't think
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: they'd have any problem selling approximately a third of a
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: box to every other player that's there. You know, if that,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: you know, if they printed fifty four and said, you know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: we only have fifty more boxes as much as used
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: for the sealed and the rest of it's for, I
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: don't I don't think they would have a problem selling that.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: It can AFC.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so fifty I don't even if fifty right, if
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: fifty boxes is the real number, I don't know it
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: is six. Let's pretend it is like, let's pretend like
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: we know things, because that's what we normally do. So
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: this is six hundred decks, right.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: And you figure three one hundred and fifty people actually
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: showed up. Four hundred and fifty of those decks would
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: already be gone in the LCQ. Yeah, that's only one
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty decks left to sell. It's only one
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: per person. Just make it the goodie bag deck and
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: they're all gone already.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Are we already getting Vault Master twenty four in a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: goodie Bag Deck.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Twenty Yeah, twenty four, not twenty five twenty four because
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: they still have a lunch of twenty four because it
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: didn't sell as well because the set was good set
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: quater they you know, like, I get that it's hard
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: to judge set quality early.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I get that that's not easy.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: But they should be trying. They should be striving to
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: understand them, not be like, wait, what do you mean?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Set quality is important?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Like we thought, we thought just making something neat and
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: exclusive would make it valuable. That works for Magic the Gathering.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, except the problem is is normally when Magic the
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Gathering is all something expensive, it's not only unique and exclusive,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: it's also powerful.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: A bunch of that treasure stuff, isn't that secret layers.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of special treatment stuff with Yeah, but
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of that is powerful stuff. But some some
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: of that is also like Sonic the Hedgehog's it's also
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: like a third party. Uh ips that nine times out
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: of ten, like when they did all the Lord of
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: the Rings stuff. So I'm sure a lot of Lord
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: of the Rings guys who are really into Lord of
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the Rings bought it up. So yeah, I don't know, Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so they need to make a Lord of
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: the Forge.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings game in their art and they're
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: already with Magic, so.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: So I know some people would hate yeah, but I did.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I do feel like if Magic hadn't argued on it, it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Would have fit in really well with the Goofy Like listen,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: anything really kind of fits into this game, right that, well, yeah,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: that's how they did it, right.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I think they do like Hannah Barbara
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: World and.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: You could definitely get an ip and kind of slap
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: it in this game.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Right about talking about thunder Road Vendetta before, Like we
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: need like freaking like Mad Max, right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: A Mad Max house.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: You could do a Mad Max style set.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: It doesn't even have to be officially Mad Max, right,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: all right, Louk, get on that one.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Just a Mad Max style just.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Like make vehicles actually good.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: A house that really is into yeah, vehicles and going fast, yeah,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: just pedal, pedal all to the metal speed freak orcs
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: yeah or yeah, it could be like an Orcish type deal.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: And but every now and then to go boom.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Like all of all of the factions from Warhammer would
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: fit just fine in.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: The but already done by Magic. I'm awaited magic already scooped.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Not really, they just did a few cards. I guess
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: they did a load of the Ring set, but.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: A lot of those I don't know where the licenses lie, right,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: and I we can't get them to figure out to
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: spend a few bucks.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't advertise.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Could you couldn't you imagine one going hey, how much
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: to use the Warhammer forty k ip and then immediately
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: watch CTP of a Stroke.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: So I think when they originally designed the key Ford
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: DWorld and the weak storyline that exists, have that in
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: mind though, where they're like, hey, if this is really
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: good and we get you know, when we buy licenses
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: or get licenses to make them in card games, we
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: can stick anything into this game without making it a
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: third party set, you know, like some games where they'll
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: do that, they're like, oh, here's the base game and
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: oh here's a themed version. They're not really meant to
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: be mixed. Where in key Forge you still doesn't matter.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: But any theme and just been like there's a house
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: go maybe one? Yeah, right, and maybe it only ever
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: shows up in one set and you never see it again,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: But who really cares because functionally that doesn't matter We'll.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Have a storyline event that you think you have power
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: on that you actually don't go that.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you that is just good storytelling, a good
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: dungeon mastering, game mastering.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Dah dungeon mass.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: You have to believe you have free will.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't actually have to the rails you have
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: free will? Yeah?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Uh, the three three point five million deck, that's right,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: we've crossed the three million, fived thousand mark of decks registered.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: That's right on on the master vault. That's crazy, is it? Yep?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: True that it's only thirty one thousand TV decks.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: We didn't dig that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Thaters.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know how would we even figure that outd okay, right.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: We do have.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Walk back go I choose you?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty thousand second Yeah, there's a.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Thirty thousand, five hundred seventy three TV decks in d
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: ok right now, okay, which is there's only seventeen hundred
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: pc how many discovery Actually this is an interesting question.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Seven there's only two thousand, three hundred thirty nine Discovery decks. Wow,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: because although I guess these are folks who aren't well,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: but now that I'm saying that this is targeting a
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: population who may not be scanning their decks, so that's
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: probably underrepresenting more than other sets.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Probably that Now, how the hell does that even work?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: How the hell is what even work? So you get
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a deck.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Thirty one camera the decks, okay to the camera two.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: The last game found was two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, right, Like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: there were ten so five grand of that was was
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: just for the art. So that's two hundred and forty
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: five thousand. The average price of the deck during that
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: game found was something like eight and a half bucks.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I think, where are you going with this? I guess
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: that would mean up somewhere around twenty five twenty six
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars decks. Twenty five thousand decks were sold during
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: the game found. That that sounds high actually, but maybe.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of game found decks that I think
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: that also aren't opened yet either.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Well, but they're only thirty one thousand, so if and
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: we know it's not one hundred percent, but that means
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: there's only like five or six thousand decks through retail.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: By like.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Looking at a bad a bad way of looking at it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we still don't know scan rates really.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Right, And that's that's actually what I'm wondering. I'm like,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: how bad are scan rates?
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, how many decks do you scan? What percentage
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: do you scan that you open sheep?
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I scan nearly one hundred percent?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Really, m he doesn't keep the decks, but he skins.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't add him the decks of ty Forge.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: In my mind, I still find decks in bags and
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, why the hell is there a decade here
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: without back? And she goes like, oh, I brought this
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: to some event sheep was nearby.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: If sheep's nearby, you might find her.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes that will be so bad I won't even
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: bother scanning it, but I would say I'm ninety percent
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: scan right.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: You Walk, I screwed up my mission, by the way,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Uh the mission I told you about, you Walk, I.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Messed that up.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Sorry, man, we had a deal. I know, I forget,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I forgive you.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: My thought is what I'm just coming up with. The
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: math I am looking at is so there's thirty one
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: thousand decks, but let's just use that as our number.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: What do you think the average SCR scan rate on
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: decks is? Now, it's gotta be higher than the fifty
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: percent it used to be.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Just because the people who are playing are.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Because the people who are still sixty five.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Higher maybe I don't know, Okay, okay, sixty five That
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: puts us at forty seven thousand and six ninety two
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: decks they make what do you think they make a deck?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Five six bucks?
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: The world will never know, like actual money they can make. Yeah, well,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: if you say.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Five dollars, that's two hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: That's revenue approximate, approximate, and then out of that fifty
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: grand goes to Josh, fifty grand goes to Luke.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, sir, Josh fifty.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Whatever, twenty thousand dollars goes to other people that do
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: key forge work. That's one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: left before company, before stuff is taxed, lights are turned on,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: you know, Like wow, Now like it's this should still
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: be then text, right, because we're saying you make about
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: five bucks a deck that includes you paid well, I
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: don't know, maybe that even should include the cost of
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: the employees. Who knows, and it's hard to say what
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: that number is looking at all those but just when
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: you get down to it, and there isn't there's definitely
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: not hundreds of thousands of key Forge dollars to spend
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: on doing things. There might be, there might be tens
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: of thousands.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's probably why they reduce the number of
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: like custom decks you can get in a campaign, right yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: And then uh yeah, and then you know, Peterson's got
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: to make his next boat payment, so yeah, there's.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: He's probably losing money.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Honestly, maybe what do you think is that is.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just looking at the economics, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: like I start to see this and I go, well, yeah,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: you know, like you can understand why they make decisions
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: that don't cost the company significant amounts of money, and
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: you know, like you start looking at these numbers, four
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: or five, ten grand is not insignificant number of dollars potentially.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that can make or break your profitability
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: for the year.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: He's got to sell this company in seven years, how considered.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know that he does, Like he's kind of
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: his he's good, right, well, but he has he made
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: his money. He's doing this because he actually likes it.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Or he wants to make more money. Yeah, he's sure,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: but you know, there are a lot of people that
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: are that way.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: But if you would be.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Strange Stars next time, Eric.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: That there would be a whole different, whole different jam. Yeah,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: he owns the games Enter too, But that's that's a
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: whole different ball away, Like that's a totally different that's
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: a totally different uh line item on the Strange Stars.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's in that family now,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: it might not be. Yeah, the the inner business workings
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: of all that is is all very mysterious and murky, and.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: One's got to run ass so he doesn't have to
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: pay taxes.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Well, but then you have to. Yeah, there's all sorts
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: of rules how he set up very operations and I
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: don't pretend to understand them, but yeah, which ones you
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: can run without.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Making a profit? Which one's like.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, who knows certain one.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: But I don't think they're making money, right, So I
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: would say they're making I would say they're doing okay.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're like raking it in right like
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: a suckers.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean clearly they're making enough to pay the employees,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: doing okay and keep CTP interested, right, which is why
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: we get to keep having sets because once one of
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: those things doesn't happen, Bill's not paid or CTP board,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: then uh, you know, maybe this doesn't carry on another thing.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then we go down.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Well we're going there anyways, but well we're not.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: You know, it's listening to us fools that keeps them going, right,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: It's like that it is. But if I keep rid
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: of this game, those boards will keep talking.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah we should. We should reintroduce you to CTP this year.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Be like, oh this is Das car.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Well did I tell you about the time I don't know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: I find.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Something on the cast told me one time you're in Rochester?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: What was that last year? Yeah?
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I think so. Like I saw him at the bar,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: like at the hotel before. So I went over and
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: like said hi to him and started talking to him,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: and uh, like Josh comes, Its like, oh, this is
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: dress Corps. To be like, just realize who you're talking to.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: So you a nice move, Josh, to help your boss
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: out what conversation. Enjoy This is Dras Corps. So that
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: you say to this fool is basically what Josh was saying.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: He's the next one that can make or break your game.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Found camp Fit campaign I mean not act. No, No,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: some people think we have that kind of power. It's
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: not true, any of it. Unlike Star Wars, it's not
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: if you have no power. We have no power. People
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: listen to you and they're like, yeah, not on the
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: good ship. It's always the bad stuff they listened to
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: us on. Right, Well, no, I mean, I don't know.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I guess you guys aren't as excited about I'm well again,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I would have been more than happy with CC with
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: no ARCon powers, because the CC set itself is pretty fine, right,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: there's nothing inherently like to busted in it except for
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the damn ARCon powers. So I would have been more
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: than okay with just no CC with no powers. But
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I guess we're going to prophetic visions.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I'm finely, It's just it's just two days in a row.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I think that that is the That is what we
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: were talking about at Local Cheap. Is that because it's
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: back to back days, that's where it hits a little
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: bit harder. Where Yes, I agree about that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: At least you're finishing each day out before you start
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: the next, so it's not like you're like starting the
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: next day and your brain's still on your like, you know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: final cut neck from the previous day, and you're starting
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: to make decisions and you're like, ah, even that people
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: are gonna do that, They're gonna have the same house.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: They're like, Oh, all I need to do is draw
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: my d to be like, oh crap, that was yesterday.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: I had that garden.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't have grafted my whole deck. I'm
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: not even playing ship.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I have not getting this set. Just me that's had that,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: that had that experience, got it all right, Wookie? Wookie,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: you wants to talk about Belgian nationals?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, rehab about this.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Week that was the Dutch.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had Dutch nationals, but Dutch Belgium.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, these things are the same.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: So what was interesting is last weekend was October fourth, fifth,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: so you had both Belgium nationals and Italian nationals. I
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: did not actually see anything for Italian nationals. I don't
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: know if it was just me. I was trying to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: look around.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I just want to go on the record right now.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: The only we told we said on this show, if
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: you want your own little section, let us know. The
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: only people who spoke up the Canadians, So they got
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: their own section just saying, just saying Canadians.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Nosy Canadians.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Hey, that's fine. They said they wanted their own section.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: They got even though like they got their own section
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: like days before their nationals. But either way, they wanted
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: their own sect. They got the right sections.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: That got to be a very active channel for a
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah they got they got their own section, which is fine.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: It's cool and they had fun in it, so I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: got to blow that up down.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But regardless, congrats to Ellie Mack, who is your Arkhan
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: national champion for Belgium and is bet for your Belgian
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Alliance national champion. I was trying to find more information there,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: but I did not see anything for the Italian, which
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: is interesting. Shut out. No, actually Belgium and yeah go ahead.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Belgian and Italian are not updated just yet. But I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: will say that Hong Kong is coming up this weekend,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: so last minute flight guys, Hong Kong on October twelve.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: M Evansville. That's what I was gonna say, Just go
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to Avansze, which I would definitely go. Unfortunately, I'm velmed.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Evansville is now out for me as my two kids
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: have both gotten sick. We had one out the last
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: three days and one went vomited everywhere today. I hope
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you feel about it. No, not not nice when it's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: at school.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: So Belgian Nationals only like six or eight people.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I was trying to I had more information, I had it.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Marked, and I'm looking at some pictures of it in
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: the NKFL server and they're saying little national event in
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Belgian today starting with ARCon and there are pictures of
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: like maybe eight players mm hmmm nine nine in Alliance
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: and nine in ARCon, so.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: The same nine yeah, nine in sealed. See these are
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: the type of events I need to go to. You
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: can get my sealed invite, I think.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: So state Yeah, top four ARCon where Eli mac Gi,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Latinos Antonio and then is fat You.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Know what would be nice if those because here there's.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Here's the UK national.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: And nine and nine an Alliance. Uh was actually more
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: than the Canadian Nationals, right.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: For Alliance. Canadian Nationals was small this year.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Well, Canadian Nationals for Alliance only had five because they
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: staggered it and you had multiple players who were going
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: to play but were too oh for sealed and so
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: they kept playing and sealed.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah yeah yeah. So there was the UK
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Nationals too, which conta Kelly and Battel. It looks like
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: we're second and first for Alliance and Colosi and Fire
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: and Stuart. Maybe we're ARCon. It's hard to tell for sure.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: You're saying for UK UK was September twenty sixth through
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: twenty eight, so that arkonnor kind of actually has ever.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Even touched on that one?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Did we Which one one.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Of those days that wasn't paying attentional?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I think so?
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? The ARCon was, Yeah, mister Slogan's your runner up
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: was Callos and then for Alliance, Yeah, what is it?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yas Kimagen as your champion and then Konsie Kelly for
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: runner up and then Jim twenty three thirty for Sealeds
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: runner up. You know, yeah, new names there actually, Actually,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I will argue United Kingdom had some of the better
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: nationals here twenty six, twenty five and thirty pretty good. No, yeah,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: that's much better. You're also again being able to play
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: them on different days, I think helps.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Well. I did just reach out to our Italian to
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: see if I can get any information on Italy.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: That's right, we have an Italian. We've got a couple
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: of them, don't we.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Actually?
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Then looking at Sweden, I don't think we talked Sweden either, boys,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: because that would have been the twenty six, twenty eighth
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: of September as well.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know, ye know, I'm looking at the
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: deck that won our con deck that won UK. The
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: footman that purchases the church, which is a great name, right,
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: and if you just made that up and type it
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: church cool, right, but atrocity right, seeing some atrocity, double foreseer,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: triple parallel thinking. Okay, but the cyberclone is nice. The
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: double chummy is is pretty nice, with the dispipped miasma
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: is pretty nice. It's got the guess what house I'm
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: thinking of the prophecy, right, which is and yeah and
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: signs point yes right, so yeah, the guess what house
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking of is the way to win the game
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: right by Randa luck right, it's pretty often so it's
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: got that right, That's pretty important. Um, so it seems solid.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: We'll give to Ember. Dramatic echo.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems solid.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Doesn't seem oppressive, but.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: But solid to me.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Mhmm, Well it's got some see Gouda Gras cyber clone
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: double give to Ember. Yeah, brutal consequences.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: God, no, I got nothing. I'm uh, I'm ready to
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: put a ball on this. I don't know about you guys.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Not going shadows tonight.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: We've gone fits an hour already.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I will say I will say while
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: we're here, because we didn't cover it. Our counter candidate
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: actually does have the write up for or has who's
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: listed for Sweden? So Sweden nationals ran twenty six to
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: twenty eighth, and you have Candika. Actually you have both
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Jonas and Christopher, and that was your ARCon winner. So
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: birth first and second, and then Alliance you had Christopher
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and Jonas and then for sealed we're seeing and Jonas,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: look at that. That's clean? Sweet?
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Was there two people at it?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: No, there was ten, four and ten respectively, so ten total.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Four for Alliance, four for Alliance, even when's your only choice. Nah.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, weird how we still have for Las Vegas, Like
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: there's a deck in here for Las Vegas and our
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: kind kind of.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: I mean there's definitely a link of the eight.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not an Alliance decks. I got our conde.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: You know what, it turns out there's nobody that's interested
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: in trying to collect the alliance information like live at
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: the event.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: It's just such a trying to fucking judge.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Well, that's when he releases the article. They'll be in
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: the article.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: What article?
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: When they do the recap article?
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Did we not recap? Uh?
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: When g G.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Rights there article, then they will release the deck list.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: The stuff that's in there right now is what we
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: collected on the.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Ground as collected. Have we not done an article on Vegas?
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: No?
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: So really released one? No they didn't.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: You can go that's that's easy enough to be able
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: to check for it's not there.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: So I mean, well, I will go ahead, and.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: I've been kind of busy with this game found thing
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: we're getting ready for, getting ready for.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: The world results from certain Darkness. Do we know the
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: results of this are the results? No?
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're doing another one in uh what you.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Can report all of this month? So I have to
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: still report this now where we we are going to
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: run and report more.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of which I got to create a signup
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: link for.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I will go ahead and say that it was a
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: shame just the stream for Vegas that ARCon did not
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: get the attention that it needed. We desperately run two
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: separate streams or have them so that you can go
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: ahead and.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Or can push whatever agenda they want. And they want
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: to keep pushing Alliance as the premiere format. They don't
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: want to make it a thing, so they're gonna shove
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: it down you.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that was the reason I
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: think that they were. I don't think that was the
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: reason why it was shown over Arkon for Vegas.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: But they start because they I think it's because they
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: had they started Top four.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Right yes, for Alliance, and they thought that it would
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: be finished early, and instead it ran very and Arkon
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: was what finished quicker.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, in my experience, it's not a we're trying
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: to push it type deal. It's well, we can get
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: them both and then it just either it happens or
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: it doesn't.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, the short answer is.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: The timing doesn't link up, right.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: That's where.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: The short answer is that we just have, especially at
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: these top tables, we need to be able to show
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: the games and get any publicity out there. So record it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. You can pour it in into two separate
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: streams if you need to.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Even if it's you can do the same screen picture
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: and picture. I mean, this is this is.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: There's already not enough room to see what's going on.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's why I was saying that
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: you can click on which one.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: You want maybe this time.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: And if they wanted to record two games, they would
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: have to bring twice as many cameras and recording setups.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: It's literally another why frame and another expender in another camera.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Would we just talk about how the's going to spend
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: any more money.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think they spent any money on this setup
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: in the first place. I think this is just what
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Josh has already owns.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Last week, did you guys talk about this? Uh? Davidy
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Bourne and Fish previews?
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he ran through all the previous I didn't think
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: you're going to.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: I just want to add I've just went through them
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: and this is sad and miserable looking in my mind
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I believe we already said that it was question by
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: two thousand dollars.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you you just bought. You just bought tired Fish
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: and boring sky thing East Yep, good job. H I
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: mean they could still put the good cards in. They
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: could still sneak befunneling, could well.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: I mean we we thought it looked TV looked bad,
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: but then it turned out.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: The right house. Well hold on, oh no, this will
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: site got a full art nerman.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Abistle site fine, But I tell you what, Abistle
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: site without bonus token creature generation is not as exciting
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: of a card because it has a higher cost, because
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: it's functionally costing you a full mother card every time,
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: where traditionally in the Senate was in you could pitch
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: a low value token.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: How was it Abiso site not transpar Look at this
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: lady's legs. Her legs do not match her towards the
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: rest of her body. Her legs go all the way
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: to the bottom of that card. Look at where her
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: knees are. How was that not the one that like,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: everyone's like that looks funny? It was a Bistle site.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: Well, it's it's the there's like certain artifacts that are
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: common in.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: I mean honestly, like and yeah, even like this just
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: looks like extended art. And then they did like it's
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: starry night background. Same thing with like against a flags
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: that just looks like a boom background. This one definitely.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at these full art cards for the first
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: time myself. Actually, I've never bother look at this article
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: either for before today and the bonus icons not having
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: the little like feater in this there's gonna be a
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: card where you're just not going to see that, like
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: that counterfeit controversy card with the discard Pip right there
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: and you're not even gonna see it. Just get out
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: because even the one with the damage Pip, the Sir Lorcus,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: the damage Pip almost blends in.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: It's just.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know some of those. Some of those are
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: gonna be hard.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Well again. And then get ready to call it. Judge,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: are you ready? You got Judge, You got your Judge
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Colin voice ready, Judge, Judge, Judge.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, while you're there, I will say good luck to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: anyone who is able to make it to Evansville. I'm
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: totally jealous. Remember you can still support online. And if
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: you get the chance, if anyone is listening over in
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Hong Kong, good luck in your nationals. I believe that
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: is the last one.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Oh and I.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Need I need uh, I need a VM five deck
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: from the China Vault tour. So yeah, somebody think of me.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: If yeah, you're thinking about Evansville, check out on our
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: discord the uh crazy video of the trophy.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Whirlpool regiously cool.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the world.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: You know what it would have been better.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: That spins like it's pretty amazing.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Could have been slightly better is if the bottom of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: that whirlpool fed into a shredder. We could feed cards
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: You feed adaptive decks and there. I feel like that's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: how we should.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: You were supposed to make that event you said you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: were going to.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I guess I still can't.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Right, No, it's all closed, man, whatever we we are actually.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Registration closed.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, the community events have been closed.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: But oh just send it, Josh, but you can't put
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: me in for shredder. Just put it down support at GIGI.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Just put it, just write it down, give me a day,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: just DM me slide into my DMS. Josh.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I will say, I am very very appreciative that Josh
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: and others worked on getting the clones. So it was
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: a great idea, Josh. I know this one is your baby,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: but by October twenty six, so you have a couple
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: of weeks there, but not not that long. But they
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: will be at will call for cloning decks. So I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, Josh, and I know a lot others will
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Don't forget to slide in my DMS, Josh. Either way,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. If we're not going to do a shredder,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: go ahead to slide in my DMS. We got anything else,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: We're going into them. If not, I'm going night night just.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Running shredder without it being uh official. Seems seems like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: a plan too.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't. We could do that too. We could
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: just be over in the corner somewhere. We're those weird
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: key Forge kids who eat our shudder cards. It seems fair,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: but all right, Well that'll do it for us this week.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: We'll see you all next week.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Happy forging everyone.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Hey, the Forge be with you.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to sads.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: No dying, no disease, no big mercyngiones.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: No gun, no MOVI. Welcome to you.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: Again, acts it doesn't know Jesus in California, Samacon
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: The Cackle