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Baring your Beauty Mark · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: My name's Colin Shifley.
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  Speaker 2: I'm director of the film Animals, and you're listening to
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  Speaker 2: Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 3: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences,
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  Speaker 3: and parental discretion is advised. It's showtime, folks. Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 4: to provide more cooling.
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  Speaker 5: In the containment chamber.
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  Speaker 6: To your stations, we have a movie meltdown. Why so serious?
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  Speaker 7: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 2: I'm David.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Jacqueline. Where did we name this thing?
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  Speaker 1: Where are we coming to you live from? Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's Grendel's Mansion. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah....
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  Speaker 7: We've changed it a couple of times.
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  Speaker 4: It's not House of Fun anymore.
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  Speaker 7: It's not the House of Fun. What about this poor guy?
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  Speaker 7: He has to put up with you people.
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  Speaker 9: Zuzu doesn't own anything. This is completely Grendel's, and he's
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  Speaker 9: like a butler.
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  Speaker 7: Zuzu, I'm on your team, but Alfred. You put up
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  Speaker 7: with a lot of these shenanigans around here. So coming
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  Speaker 7: to you live from Zuzu's House of Fun.
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  Speaker 10: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we're here. And this, I've.
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  Speaker 7: Actually got a great interview to get to in a
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  Speaker 7: little while, but I thought a nice way to balance
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  Speaker 7: it out, because it's going to get heavy. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 7: don't we have any fun stories? Didn't anybody go on
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  Speaker 7: any road trips? Hey, Phillip.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Brian.
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  Speaker 7: Didn't you go on a road trip?
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 8: I recently spent a week in sunny Los.
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  Speaker 7: Angeles, California. See, I thought that was a good tie-in.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't do a lot of the touristy things this trip,
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  Speaker 8: but I did spend a fun afternoon at the Hollywood
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  Speaker 8: Forever Cemetery, which is the resting place to several movie stars,
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  Speaker 8: including Judy Garland, Vampyra, Alfalfa from The Little Rascals. uh,
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  Speaker 8: Fay Wray. And of course, Johnny and DD Ramone.
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  Speaker 11: Nice.
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  Speaker 7: Are they like adjacent plots? They're no, they're about, uh,
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  Speaker 7: like if they put them together, like the Ramones family, right.
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  Speaker 7: That really would be kind of amazing. I really, is
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  Speaker 7: it too late to move?
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of creepy to think about a way like
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  Speaker 2: celebrity death scenes, like, like bearing bands together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: They're actually about a hundred yards away from each other. Um,
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  Speaker 8: Which I kind of feel like that's how they would
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  Speaker 8: have wanted it. You can be in the neighborhood, but.
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  Speaker 1: Not next to it.
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  Speaker 7: I don't want to be right next to you. I've
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  Speaker 7: had more than enough of you over the years.
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  Speaker 8: It's a small but very well planned out cemetery. The
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  Speaker 8: entire time you're there, you have a wonderful view of
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  Speaker 8: the Hollywood sign.
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  Speaker 1: As you should.
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  Speaker 7: So that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 8: Some of the other highlights there, I got to see
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  Speaker 8: Mel Blanc's grave, Voice of Bugs Bunny, Estelle Getty. Which
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  Speaker 8: for some reason I was more excited about once I
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  Speaker 8: found out she was there than anything else.
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  Speaker 7: This is still the same cemetery?
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  Speaker 8: Same cemetery. There's actually five or six cemeteries in the
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  Speaker 8: Hollywood area where they have a lot of celebrities, but
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  Speaker 8: this is the one that's more touristy oriented. Apparently the
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  Speaker 8: other ones get mad when you walk around and geek
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  Speaker 8: out and take pictures of everybody here.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 7: Again, I haven't been there, but what I know of it,
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  Speaker 7: that one is super cool because they're the ones that
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  Speaker 7: show the movies on the side of the mausoleum. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 8: Unfortunately, I didn't find out about that until we were
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  Speaker 8: about to leave LA. Every summer they do free movies.
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  Speaker 8: There is a huge mausoleum. It's made of marble and
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  Speaker 8: make an awesome screen.
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  Speaker 9: Because cemeteries are for the living anyways.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 7: Well, maybe dead people like to watch movies, too.
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  Speaker 12: Well, sure.
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  Speaker 7: That's true. Feel free to join in, you know.
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  Speaker 9: Guys, we're so close to Halloween.
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  Speaker 13: I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 2: I actually had to use the heat in my car, like,
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  Speaker 2: recently this week. Like, it was actually cooling off finally.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't gotten to that point, but I am, like,
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  Speaker 7: I'm getting kind of twitchy when I think about the
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  Speaker 7: aisles at Target. They're clearing them out already.
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  Speaker 1: I know it.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I know it. I'm like, I'm going to be buying
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  Speaker 7: pumpkin-shaped Peeps real soon.
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  Speaker 8: Every time I go to the store, I look for
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  Speaker 8: my Count Chocula.
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm. It'll be back with new boxes this year.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 7: I think I've already seen them. They did a preview.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, nice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So, anything else in LA?
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  Speaker 8: That's about it for this trip. I've been there before,
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  Speaker 8: and I got to see the Jim Henson Studios once,
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  Speaker 8: which was pretty sweet.
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  Speaker 2: Did you get a Muppet?
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  Speaker 8: No, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: I had friends who went to New York. The New
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  Speaker 2: York one, and I guess they had the Muppet made.
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  Speaker 2: You can have someone make the pieces or something.
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  Speaker 8: This one, they don't let you tour.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 7: It's the actual production studio. It's still in functioning.
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  Speaker 8: What's neat about it was it was the studio that
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  Speaker 8: Charlie Chaplin founded. So on top of one of the
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  Speaker 8: main administration buildings, there's this giant nine-foot-tall Kermit dressed like
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  Speaker 8: Charlie Chaplin.
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  Speaker 15: Wow.
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  Speaker 8: So that alone is worth checking out if you're ever
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  Speaker 8: in L.A.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big Kermit.
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  Speaker 7: That's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we've also got, you know, this specific episode ties
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  Speaker 7: in to an event that you were there for, Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 7: We recently were hanging out at the Flyover Film Festival.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You were there.
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  Speaker 7: You recapped all your food fun. Mostly, she just went
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  Speaker 7: there to get free food.
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  Speaker 11: Except it wasn't free.
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  Speaker 9: That was a good, it was like 70-30. The movies.
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  Speaker 7: But in addition, again, I was there too. Most of
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  Speaker 7: the nights that entire run, like, I think I took
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  Speaker 7: a night off to edit the show, which is the
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  Speaker 7: only other thing I do. So, yeah, I was there
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  Speaker 7: most nights and talking to people. And this episode is
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  Speaker 7: no exception. Actually, the closing night we get into the
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  Speaker 7: closing ceremonies and big finale was Beauty Mark, which was
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  Speaker 7: just actually shot in 2017. Well, at least released. I
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  Speaker 7: guess it was shot probably earlier, towards the end of
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  Speaker 7: last year. But, and shot, I think in its entirety
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  Speaker 7: in Louisville, surprisingly enough. And the bulk of it in Portland.
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  Speaker 8: Really?
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  Speaker 7: Which someone in the part, and I'm going on record,
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  Speaker 7: this was not me that said it. Because I know
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  Speaker 7: they're trying to like sort of build up and change
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  Speaker 7: that neighborhood. And they're really trying to like get businesses
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  Speaker 7: moved in there. But someone at the place we're about
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  Speaker 7: to go to to hear this interview, afterwards, I'm wrapping
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  Speaker 7: up and putting cords away like I do most of
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  Speaker 7: my life. And there's two ladies sitting over there and
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  Speaker 7: they're like, you may even be able to hear them
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  Speaker 7: at the beginning because she's like, hey, what are y'all doing?
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  Speaker 7: As per usual, if you're out in the world, people
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  Speaker 7: just start talking to you, regardless if you're in the
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  Speaker 7: middle of doing it. episode they don't seem to care.
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  Speaker 2: You have a mic in front of you yeah we're
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  Speaker 2: all holding my audio right now are you yeah what
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  Speaker 2: y'all doing.
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  Speaker 7: I want to be on tv no no they were
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  Speaker 7: actually i talked to them quite a bit afterwards they
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  Speaker 7: were very nice but it was funny because like i
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  Speaker 7: said i was like oh they i was talking about
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  Speaker 7: they were asking who they were and what they were
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  Speaker 7: doing i'm like oh they shot their movie in portland
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  Speaker 7: she goes oh And they left with a camera? I'm like, whoa! Alright,
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  Speaker 7: once again, not my comment, but it tells you as
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  Speaker 7: you get into this story that the neighborhood they're dealing
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  Speaker 7: with and where they shot all this is a real neighborhood.
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  Speaker 7: And when you seek out this movie and do, because
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  Speaker 7: it's pretty well put together, and when you see that stuff,
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  Speaker 7: it's not acting. We're not building a fake neighborhood. That's real.
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  Speaker 7: And a lot of those people in the movie, like
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  Speaker 7: It's funny. If you see the movie, she's trying to
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  Speaker 7: rent a house in Portland from this couple. And they're there.
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  Speaker 7: And they were there in front of the wall where
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  Speaker 7: I took all my dumb pictures. And I'm just like,
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  Speaker 7: they're there. It's opening night. And they've got one scene.
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  Speaker 7: And they're just a couple that lives in Louisville. And
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  Speaker 7: it was funny watching all these regular... There's also the
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  Speaker 7: kid that plays her son is from here. And was
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  Speaker 7: just running around. He was the star of the night.
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  Speaker 7: He's wearing a little suit. He's posing with everybody. This
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  Speaker 7: kid is tiny, too. And he was just like, oh,
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  Speaker 7: my gosh. He was the super celebrity. It's funny watching
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  Speaker 7: it come to a town like this, which is not
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  Speaker 7: overrun with, you know, we don't have for Hollywood Forever cemeteries.
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  Speaker 7: We don't have any fun mausoleum movie shows.
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  Speaker 2: We just have the colonel.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we've got the colonel, which I have also visited
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  Speaker 7: his grave. Thank you very much. The Frito-Lay magician. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: right down the row from the Frito-Lay magician. And somewhere
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  Speaker 7: in there is now Muhammad Ali. It's a pretty fancy... Also,
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  Speaker 7: William Girdler, who we've done an episode in front of
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  Speaker 7: his grave. At that same cemetery here. So if you
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  Speaker 7: come to Louisville, go to Cave Hill Cemetery.
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  Speaker 8: On that note, though, they are currently filming another movie
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  Speaker 8: here in town.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, yeah, the Anastasia.
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  Speaker 12: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: That's right in front of my friend's apartment and she's pissed.
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  Speaker 8: I know somebody else who was in that area and
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  Speaker 8: she's not happy about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Other side of being like, go from their houses to
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  Speaker 9: their cars or back, like, except for specific hours. And
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  Speaker 9: like she, cause they're filming on Belgravia court, like the,
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  Speaker 9: you know, this gorgeous little St. James court.
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  Speaker 7: Like, and yeah, they're filming.
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  Speaker 9: Something for Anastasia and Anastasia or whatever it is. Uh,
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  Speaker 9: Apparently the scene is supposed to be her experiencing trick-or-treating
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  Speaker 9: in the 80s or something.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say.
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  Speaker 7: So they put up.
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  Speaker 9: Little ghost decorations and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 7: They jumped the gun. They got their Halloween decorations early.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: No, it's pretty cool looking.
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  Speaker 12: Lucky bastard.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's not cool looking.
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  Speaker 9: It looks really low budget, but I'm just like, I
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  Speaker 9: love corny Halloween decorations.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 7: Can't go wrong.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, once again, the other side of the filmmaking process.
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  Speaker 7: They moved into my town.
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  Speaker 2: I had that happen with, what was the one that
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  Speaker 2: Orlando Bloom did here?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, Elizabethtown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I lived, I used to live on one
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  Speaker 2: of the apartments right there over Tyler Park. And they
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  Speaker 2: film like for like three days or something there. For
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  Speaker 2: like three days, I had to park like a block
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  Speaker 2: away and walk to my house because they kind of
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  Speaker 2: shut down like this whole park area like during the
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  Speaker 2: times I was getting home from work.
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  Speaker 7: And it's just like.
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  Speaker 2: I live there like come on like let me get
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  Speaker 2: to my house i get that you're shooting a movie
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  Speaker 2: but yeah just trying to get to my house and.
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  Speaker 9: Apparently they put up like the the no parking you
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  Speaker 9: know such and such signs the day of they didn't
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  Speaker 9: have them on the night before they weren't there they
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  Speaker 9: were there the day of pretty sneaky and they they
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  Speaker 9: had slipped things under people's like doors like little slips
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  Speaker 9: like notifying them but they were dated like yeah the
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  Speaker 9: three days before no like that day or like the
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  Speaker 9: next day or something like that and they were like
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  Speaker 9: but but you know you knew you would be here.
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  Speaker 7: It's quite a process i again i i've actually been
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  Speaker 7: talking to the people at the like film society here
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  Speaker 7: like in the The council, I'm like, do you need
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  Speaker 7: somebody to, like, coordinate these things? I can't imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Like, 20 days later, they shut down London for.
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  Speaker 7: Like, six hours.
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  Speaker 1: And that was, like.
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  Speaker 7: And they had no budget.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they, like, shut down traffic and people for, like,
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  Speaker 2: six hours. And they were just like, that was so
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  Speaker 2: hard to do, guys.
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  Speaker 7: I was actually, when I was talking to you, Phillip,
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  Speaker 7: when I went back and rewatched it, I think I
• 12:27
  Speaker 7: was listening to some of the commentary. And, like, I
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  Speaker 7: think that morning shot... Actually, they didn't even get, that
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  Speaker 7: wasn't even like the one that's like the big iconic
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  Speaker 7: morning shot when everything's deserted. He's like, we just went
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  Speaker 7: out really early on Sunday and hope nobody would be
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  Speaker 7: out driving around.
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  Speaker 2: You just leave the camera on and then after you
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  Speaker 2: get like eight hours of footage, you look for like
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  Speaker 2: that 45 seconds where no.
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  Speaker 7: One was like on the street. That's, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 7: that's what he ended up doing.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 7: Again, the other stuff I think they had to, I guess,
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  Speaker 7: for more of the stunts.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that big guy.
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  Speaker 2: Especially a lot of the ones that have like Big
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  Speaker 2: Ben and iconic things in the background. They're like, we
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  Speaker 2: got to get people out of here. There's no way
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  Speaker 2: that they're not going to be there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. How you do that kind of stuff on a
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  Speaker 7: minimal budget, I do not know. Hollywood budget, no problem.
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  Speaker 7: You just throw money at it. It fixes everything. Or
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  Speaker 7: not everything, but certainly makes things a little easier. But yeah,
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  Speaker 7: that's not what they had on this. This was a
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  Speaker 7: pretty minimal shoot, so. I say we go talk to
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  Speaker 7: them right now. This is actually the director, and he
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  Speaker 7: actually wrote it. He also was an actor himself for
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  Speaker 7: many years, so you can actually go find more of
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  Speaker 7: his filmography from earlier, but he moved into directing. This
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  Speaker 7: is Harris Duran, and I guess for most people, the
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  Speaker 7: draw might be the fact that I sit down with
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  Speaker 7: Katherine Curtin, Who these days is Wanda Bell in Orange
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  Speaker 7: is the New Black.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 7: So that, I mean, people love that show. So she's
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  Speaker 7: quite a character in the movie. And gotta say, in
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  Speaker 7: life too. Not the same character, but she is certainly
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  Speaker 7: an interesting lady. I talked to her there and then
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  Speaker 7: at the premiere that night. And she's, yeah, she's a
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  Speaker 7: fascinating person. So this, we kind of get a little
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  Speaker 7: window into both of them and their shoot here and
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  Speaker 7: the movie itself.
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  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 7: Again, it gets kind of dark because the movie is
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  Speaker 7: a very heavy subject matter. So just so you know,
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  Speaker 7: just ease yourself in. This actually gets serious. All right,
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  Speaker 7: let's go talk to them right now.
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  Speaker 13: What do you.
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  Speaker 10: See when you look at me?
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  Speaker 13: Ten dollar words and philosophies. How would you choose to
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  Speaker 13: define me? Cares for others or just cares what others think.
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  Speaker 13: But there is more to me than just what.
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  Speaker 14: Meets the.
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  Speaker 4: Eye.
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  Speaker 13: It's time to be the change.
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  Speaker 14: I want to look like, live like me.
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  Speaker 13: I want to let this life in me show.
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  Speaker 14: On my face. I want to look like hope.
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  Speaker 13: I want to look like, live like grace.
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  Speaker 6: And I know just where to start.
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  Speaker 14: I'll let you be my beauty mark.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, folks, it's intermission time. So how about taking a break?
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  Speaker 3: Get out and stretch a little and relax before the
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  Speaker 1: Woke up this morning feeling low.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 4: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 16: We're broke.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, we definitely, I'm pulling up, turning my pockets out
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  Speaker 16: All I do All day long.
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  Speaker 11: Fall down on my knees and pray She come back
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  Speaker 11: home for.
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  Speaker 1: Me Why is there a bad love on me?
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  Speaker 15: If it be not today, may the bluebird drop his
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  Speaker 15: feather to the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, this is Martha Stevens, and you are listening to
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  Speaker 2: Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 12: Sing my song. Sing my song.
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  Speaker 15: Sing my song.
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  Speaker 4: It's part of your problem, you know. You haven't seen
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: enough movies.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: on with the show.
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  Speaker 10: I've got a beauty mark Written on my skin.
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  Speaker 14: Close to my heart My favourite part.
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: My beauty mark I keep it out of sight Safe
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: from the world outside This old battle.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Scar Usually I'll just kind of get sort of an
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: introduction to you guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'll start like early on, I guess.
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: What is one of the Like when you're younger, what
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: is one of the things that kind of made you
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: initially want to be a performer? Was it initially like
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: film or was it like stage? What was it that
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: you were kind of drawn to?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Me?
• 21:30
  Speaker 17: I'm Catherine Curtin. And why was I drawn to this
• 21:33
  Speaker 17: crazy thing that we do? You know, my dad was
• 21:38
  Speaker 17: terminally ill and my mom needed a place to put
• 21:40
  Speaker 17: me in the afternoons that wasn't the hospital. So she
• 21:45
  Speaker 17: found this professional children's theater company called And I was
• 21:48
  Speaker 17: like one of the only white people in it and
• 21:50
  Speaker 17: they needed me for diversity. So, uh, cause I couldn't sing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 17: I was like totally talent free. So, uh, I ended
• 21:59
  Speaker 17: up just hanging out for a bunch of years at
• 22:01
  Speaker 17: this really cool theater company. And, um, they did like
• 22:05
  Speaker 17: Liz Suedos and all these original musicals. It was amazing
• 22:08
  Speaker 17: with kids. And, uh, I guess that was in New
• 22:13
  Speaker 17: York on 68th street.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah.
• 22:16
  Speaker 17: And, It doesn't exist anymore, like so many not-for-profits. But
• 22:20
  Speaker 17: it was a really good place. And I think that
• 22:23
  Speaker 17: that's one of the telling things about what art can
• 22:25
  Speaker 17: do for families, what art can do to make an
• 22:30
  Speaker 17: impact on people's lives, whether or not they go into it,
• 22:33
  Speaker 17: is that it is a family. And that as my
• 22:36
  Speaker 17: family was going through so much chaos and so much
• 22:41
  Speaker 17: tragedy that I had this other family. And I think
• 22:44
  Speaker 17: that's why I stayed. is because I understood that this
• 22:49
  Speaker 17: would always be a family. And being on Harris' film,
• 22:54
  Speaker 17: the indie film community, so much of the world of
• 22:58
  Speaker 17: art is this sort of extended family that you have
• 23:01
  Speaker 17: this automatic relationship to.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: That may be. It sort of fulfills what you're missing
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: at that point, what you need from it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 17: And it continues to do that throughout your life.
• 23:13
  Speaker 16: I wanted to be an astronaut. And then the challenger exploded.
• 23:18
  Speaker 16: So I was like, I'm going to change careers. So
• 23:23
  Speaker 16: then I decided I was going to be the next Baryshnikov.
• 23:26
  Speaker 16: And for two years of that, second and third grade,
• 23:28
  Speaker 16: no one wanted to help me. They didn't want me
• 23:30
  Speaker 16: to be gay.
• 23:30
  Speaker 14: I guess.
• 23:31
  Speaker 16: And that didn't work out either. And so then I
• 23:34
  Speaker 16: was like, well, I guess I'll be an actor. And
• 23:36
  Speaker 16: that was fourth grade.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 23:38
  Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So it started with fourth grade plays?
• 23:41
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it was... I was Charlie number three in Charlie
• 23:45
  Speaker 16: and the Chocolate Factory. I inherited the Chocolate Factory.
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: There you go.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Glass elevator. You're all set.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: That is so cool.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: Well, then, I guess as you started, again, I ended
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: up crossing over into tons of films, so I guess
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: were there early films that you were sort of drawn
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: to or made you start at least being interested in
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: that type of thing?
• 24:06
  Speaker 16: I mean, I always loved film. Growing up as a kid, like.
• 24:12
  Speaker 16: E.T. and Stand By Me and The Goonies were my films.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: Did any of them at that point, again, because I'm
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: trying to think back even for me, when it occurred
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: to me that it was like a job, you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: because I think it was years and years before I
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: started realizing how much work went into them. And so
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: I think it was like much later before I started
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: actually realizing that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: The industry that was involved in it.
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  Speaker 16: No, for me in fourth grade, when I was like,
• 24:38
  Speaker 16: I want to be an actor, that was a job
• 24:40
  Speaker 16: choice and I pursued it in that way.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: No.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 16: I went and I, I went to like acting school and, um,
• 24:48
  Speaker 16: I was like, that's what I'm doing with my life
• 24:49
  Speaker 16: and that's what I was doing. And so for me,
• 24:51
  Speaker 16: I was an actor for a long time and like
• 24:54
  Speaker 16: have written since I was a kid. And then there
• 24:56
  Speaker 16: was just a natural transition, uh, that I didn't even
• 25:00
  Speaker 16: see happening. It wasn't really a choice. It just suddenly
• 25:02
  Speaker 16: was like, I'm making movies.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, okay.
• 25:03
  Speaker 17: Yeah, and Harris is a brilliant, brilliant writer. I read
• 25:07
  Speaker 17: a lot of scripts, and I've read a lot of
• 25:10
  Speaker 17: scripts in my life, and Harris' script, Beauty Mark, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 17: Harris as a writer, as a director, as a creator,
• 25:21
  Speaker 17: is really genius.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: Thanks.
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: Again, you've been acting for a long time. You say
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: you've been writing from the beginning. You just kind of
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: started moving into a directing. What was it that sort
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: of nudged it over into that area?
• 25:34
  Speaker 16: So I've actually been an acting coach for 15 years.
• 25:38
  Speaker 16: So directing actors is not at all new.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 16: It just was sort of a combination of having acted,
• 25:45
  Speaker 16: having taught, having written. It was just like the natural
• 25:48
  Speaker 16: I I'd produced. Um, it just was the natural evolution.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: Uh, So what was it about this story that kind
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: of drew you in? I think I'd seen it's based
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: sort of on a real story from one of the producers.
• 26:03
  Speaker 16: It's inspired by true events that happened to one of
• 26:05
  Speaker 16: the film's producers. You take a story that you hear about,
• 26:13
  Speaker 16: but then you have to find your way in.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: And so any art.
• 26:17
  Speaker 16: It's only good art if it's personal. And so you
• 26:19
  Speaker 16: have to like delve through your own personal, can you curse?
• 26:23
  Speaker 16: Oh yeah. Delve through your own personal shit, you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 16: and find what's there and try and somehow like find
• 26:30
  Speaker 16: some sort of understanding and find, understand your own history and,
• 26:34
  Speaker 16: and understand human beings and see if you can try
• 26:36
  Speaker 16: and express that in a form that other people can
• 26:39
  Speaker 16: maybe grasp, you know?
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: And then I guess what brought it to, Louisville, again,
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: you shot it actually here.
• 26:49
  Speaker 16: Well, so the events that it was inspired by happened here.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 16: But then, so we did a reading of it, an
• 26:57
  Speaker 16: early reading, and Kathy came in and was so brilliant.
• 27:02
  Speaker 16: She was so amazing in this reading that it was, like,
• 27:05
  Speaker 16: undeniable of where, like, a role and an actor, like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 16: come together and it just is so right. And she
• 27:12
  Speaker 16: just killed it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 17: Thank you. I think your, your, your script killed it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 17: Your script made me fierce. It made me have to
• 27:22
  Speaker 17: tell this story. And I think what you said about
• 27:25
  Speaker 17: all art is personal, but what you did was you
• 27:28
  Speaker 17: made that personal universal and you made that personal, something
• 27:34
  Speaker 17: that anybody who's experienced different levels of what this film
• 27:38
  Speaker 17: is about has to be a part of this film
• 27:41
  Speaker 17: because either in it or producing it or, you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 17: hopefully as an audience member, because it will touch you
• 27:50
  Speaker 17: and it will demand that you honor your own life
• 27:55
  Speaker 17: and your own story in this. And there's very few
• 27:58
  Speaker 17: people who haven't been through difficulties in this life. Life
• 28:02
  Speaker 17: touches everyone. And I think that this film really takes
• 28:07
  Speaker 17: its viewers to places that people need to go and
• 28:13
  Speaker 17: stay with for a minute in order to find that
• 28:17
  Speaker 17: freedom and in order to find that place where they
• 28:21
  Speaker 17: can mount a campaign to review their life and renew
• 28:26
  Speaker 17: their life and go beyond the limits that life may
• 28:30
  Speaker 17: have presented to them. And it's a very healing thing.
• 28:35
  Speaker 17: That's one of the things about art. And that's one
• 28:37
  Speaker 17: of the things about this film is that it seeks
• 28:41
  Speaker 17: to heal the And it does so in one of
• 28:43
  Speaker 17: the most compromised ways that I've ever understood in a film.
• 28:49
  Speaker 17: And that's what really chilled me about it. And that's
• 28:51
  Speaker 17: what really made me go, this is actually something that
• 28:56
  Speaker 17: needs to be out there because none of us live
• 28:59
  Speaker 17: a storybook and you didn't create a storybook. You created
• 29:02
  Speaker 17: the truth.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Well, that it's, I was going to say, I was
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: referencing one of the Q and A's that you were
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: actually at last night. Um, Somebody asked the director last night,
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: who is this film for? And it was kind of
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: an interesting question. In a way, it's like each movie
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: and each writer and director kind of brings something different
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: to the table each time. So this one certainly has
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: a pretty serious message and undertone and kind of relationships
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: going on. Is that part of what originally drew you
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: to this? Was that there is something important that needs
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: to be put out there with the story?
• 29:40
  Speaker 16: Yeah i think that there are multiple things i think
• 29:42
  Speaker 16: that you know specifically you know the film deals with
• 29:46
  Speaker 16: abuse and like the statistics on abuse are astronomical and
• 29:49
  Speaker 16: it's horrifying and yeah um and that needs to be
• 29:53
  Speaker 16: talked about and that's something that a film can do
• 29:54
  Speaker 16: um you know but there's uh the film deals with
• 30:00
  Speaker 16: a lot of topics, a lot of, um, you know,
• 30:03
  Speaker 16: family fucked upness of, you know, for me, I was
• 30:06
  Speaker 16: sort of grappling with, you know, can you change the,
• 30:11
  Speaker 16: the cycle of psychology that's passed down generally generationally in families? Um,
• 30:17
  Speaker 16: and the difficulty of that. And also the, um, this
• 30:21
  Speaker 16: idea of that, you know, people can be really fucked
• 30:25
  Speaker 16: up and have really fucked up relationships and you can
• 30:27
  Speaker 16: really fuck up your life. And in order to get
• 30:30
  Speaker 16: to the other side of it, you know, it's almost
• 30:33
  Speaker 16: like you need to go into the belly of the
• 30:34
  Speaker 16: beast to where it's almost worse. And somehow by diving
• 30:38
  Speaker 16: into something worse, you somehow maybe are resurrected on the
• 30:42
  Speaker 16: other side of it. And to me, that's closer to
• 30:45
  Speaker 16: life than like a Hollywood movie where like, Oh, there's this, Oh,
• 30:49
  Speaker 16: you know, this thing where like, you don't have to
• 30:51
  Speaker 16: actually go into where it's horrible. Um, you know, but yeah, Yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 16: this sort of, it's interesting because for me, you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 16: you make a movie and then, you know, it was
• 31:02
  Speaker 16: like I didn't really watch the movie really until I
• 31:05
  Speaker 16: was in sound and I was able to like, he
• 31:07
  Speaker 16: was like, okay, we're going to press play and you're
• 31:09
  Speaker 16: going to listen for sound and you can't stop it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 16: And so I had to like sit there in a
• 31:13
  Speaker 16: movie theater by myself and watch this thing. And I
• 31:15
  Speaker 16: was sort of struck by surprisingly like, religious over and
• 31:20
  Speaker 16: undertones throughout the film.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: That you didn't initially.
• 31:23
  Speaker 16: That I didn't, even though there were religious artifacts all
• 31:25
  Speaker 16: over the film, but it was this idea of this
• 31:27
  Speaker 16: kind of like death and resurrection that I was like, oh,
• 31:34
  Speaker 16: they have to go somewhere almost worse to like, it's
• 31:36
  Speaker 16: like dipping in water, like this cleansing is by going
• 31:39
  Speaker 16: deeper into horrible to come out the other side as
• 31:43
  Speaker 16: like you've paid your price to like karma and debt
• 31:46
  Speaker 16: and to your mistakes.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: I think it also with people, it's we go through
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: these horrible journeys sometimes. And like the fact that you
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: survive makes you a different person and then kind of
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: enables you to help other people that are in their
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: own fucked up situation. Like it makes you like the
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: only person who can kind of deal with that. So it's, it's, again,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: it's a reason to make it to the other side
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: because then you can help other people coming out of
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: that kind of situation.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 17: But also the, that you can get to the other side,
• 32:18
  Speaker 17: you know, that, that you don't have to live your
• 32:21
  Speaker 17: life in the, the, the, the chains that have been
• 32:30
  Speaker 17: set before you, that you can break those chains and,
• 32:35
  Speaker 17: and maybe you don't break them every day and maybe
• 32:38
  Speaker 17: they come and they're the ghost in your life and
• 32:40
  Speaker 17: they're the challenge, but that you can brush yourself off
• 32:44
  Speaker 17: and there are other people out there that are going
• 32:46
  Speaker 17: to respect that and that you can build again. Uh,
• 32:51
  Speaker 17: and I think that that's incredibly important right now in
• 32:54
  Speaker 17: the world globally because not only in this country, but
• 32:58
  Speaker 17: I do think that part of what film can do
• 33:02
  Speaker 17: is that it can bring that message to people who
• 33:07
  Speaker 17: can't access the narratives, the narrative tools to be able
• 33:12
  Speaker 17: to tell it themselves or to be able to make
• 33:14
  Speaker 17: it themselves that, you know, there are so many different
• 33:18
  Speaker 17: countries where repression is extant and, and, Repression is something
• 33:25
  Speaker 17: that everyone has to deal with in life, no matter
• 33:28
  Speaker 17: what walk of life you're in. But what you can
• 33:31
  Speaker 17: do with it and where you can go with it
• 33:33
  Speaker 17: and how you can ennoble other people and be something
• 33:39
  Speaker 17: to other people that they can get through it and
• 33:42
  Speaker 17: understand that there's a place to go is super important.
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: I've seen a few people that have come through a
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: horrible situation like the one in the movie and like
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: people that I know personally and you'll find out details
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: that like years and years later, they just haven't really
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: talked about. And they're still kind of dealing with it,
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: you know, decades into their life. So, and again, another
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: recent story that had happened in there, that person's kind
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: of helping a kid who's coming out of that situation.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: So it is like, it is, you do watch them
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: as like an example of like, you can make it
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: to the other side and I can use what I've
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: learned to kind of help you. So it is, it
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: is sort of promising that, that these things, you know, there's,
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: as horrible as these things are, something comes out of
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: it and some good comes from the other side of it.
• 34:30
  Speaker 17: But admitting the truth, admitting that it happened, admitting that
• 34:35
  Speaker 17: it's real, admitting that, that something heavy happened to you is,
• 34:40
  Speaker 17: is a big part of getting to the other side.
• 34:44
  Speaker 17: And that's where, like the character that Auden plays in
• 34:48
  Speaker 17: this film, she's really crippled by her past. And I
• 34:54
  Speaker 17: think it takes her a really long time to be
• 34:58
  Speaker 17: able to even understand what's going on with her and
• 35:02
  Speaker 17: even be able to fight back. And it's years later.
• 35:06
  Speaker 17: And that's what we need to admit is that this
• 35:11
  Speaker 17: is not something that the next day you're going to
• 35:14
  Speaker 17: be able to get up and go, this is what
• 35:16
  Speaker 17: happened to me. It can be 10 years later. It
• 35:18
  Speaker 17: can be 15 years later. It can be 20 years later.
• 35:21
  Speaker 17: And for us to say that that's true, that that's
• 35:24
  Speaker 17: a part of the human mechanism, the human creature, then
• 35:28
  Speaker 17: that's really important for people to know.
• 35:31
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 35:31
  Speaker 16: And I mean, one of the vital points of the
• 35:34
  Speaker 16: film is that, you know, you have this girl who
• 35:38
  Speaker 16: is one year past the statute of limitations. There are
• 35:40
  Speaker 16: these crazy laws where you have within five years of
• 35:43
  Speaker 16: it happening or within five years of turning 18. And
• 35:46
  Speaker 16: when you're 20 years old, you don't have the ability
• 35:49
  Speaker 16: to deal with that stuff. And so like you are
• 35:51
  Speaker 16: not protected by the you know, your government, you're not,
• 35:55
  Speaker 16: there's nowhere to turn your society. And if you don't
• 35:57
  Speaker 16: have a family that's there to support you, because they're
• 35:59
  Speaker 16: not in a position, maybe educationally, financially, there are so
• 36:03
  Speaker 16: many things where you just fall through the system. And,
• 36:06
  Speaker 16: you know, these are real people that have to deal
• 36:07
  Speaker 16: with real problems. And, you know, poverty, it's like there's
• 36:10
  Speaker 16: the intersection of like poverty and abuse. And especially on
• 36:14
  Speaker 16: top of it, you know, like being a woman in
• 36:16
  Speaker 16: the society, like there is, I think things that people
• 36:21
  Speaker 16: don't really understand especially when you see things that the
• 36:25
  Speaker 16: government is doing of where these people are just freeloaders
• 36:29
  Speaker 16: and these people go get some health insurance. Let's just
• 36:32
  Speaker 16: take this from you. What are they going to do?
• 36:38
  Speaker 16: Those are real people in really bad situations.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: And then we sort of addressed how it came to
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: be in the city. But my question was like, would
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: it have been a different story.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Had you ended up shooting somewhere? Like, would it have
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: changed it a little?
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: Because so much of where you end up kind of
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: colors the, not the hardcore story, but the details of
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: it in some of the shootings.
• 37:04
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it would have been expressed differently. I mean, we
• 37:06
  Speaker 16: shot in Portland, which that area is, I mean, even
• 37:09
  Speaker 16: it's much worse in real life than it is in
• 37:11
  Speaker 16: the film. You know, like in the film, it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Looks kind of beautiful. I live not too far away.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I have a few streets that way.
• 37:16
  Speaker 16: It's very dangerous. And, you know, that's not wholly reflected
• 37:20
  Speaker 16: in the film. I mean, you sort of get like, oh,
• 37:22
  Speaker 16: it's poor. But it's really, really dangerous over there.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 37:25
  Speaker 16: And people really are living in those situations. And so
• 37:31
  Speaker 16: that is definitely a reflection specifically of of Portland, how
• 37:34
  Speaker 16: that was expressed. I mean, like it's also, you know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 16: really racially segregated. You have like the black area and
• 37:40
  Speaker 16: the white area. And so, you know, her son who
• 37:43
  Speaker 16: is biracial is, you know, in the wrong neighborhood.
• 37:48
  Speaker 17: But also what struck me about the film, and that's
• 37:51
  Speaker 17: something I never actually said to you, was that it's
• 37:54
  Speaker 17: so beautiful here. So, so that was an amazing thing
• 37:57
  Speaker 17: for me to see is that this is a very,
• 38:00
  Speaker 17: very difficult story to, And the backdrop is like, it's
• 38:05
  Speaker 17: so Sylvan. It's so green. It's so, it's, it's just
• 38:10
  Speaker 17: so incredibly gentle and, and warm. And you're, you know,
• 38:16
  Speaker 17: in a very loving place. There's a lot of love
• 38:20
  Speaker 17: in Kentucky. There's a lot of love in this environment.
• 38:23
  Speaker 17: And so that the juxtaposition of that and this story is,
• 38:28
  Speaker 17: was startling and that for me was i really loved
• 38:33
  Speaker 17: that like i loved the backdrop of the trains you
• 38:36
  Speaker 17: know i loved the backdrop of yes this is an
• 38:40
  Speaker 17: incredibly poor area but if you told anybody else that
• 38:44
  Speaker 17: this was a high-end yuppie area they would also go
• 38:48
  Speaker 17: oh really because it's it's so it's so it's beauty
• 38:53
  Speaker 17: is these tiny little houses and it's everybody's got a
• 38:57
  Speaker 17: lawn and the streets are small and quaint and and
• 39:00
  Speaker 17: yet this story happened it's an amazing juxtaposition.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: Sometimes it's just a weird little tweak in a couple
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: of years in that chain because again the neighborhood a
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: few streets over there it's like it was run down
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: half of the buildings are being condemned and then in
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: these last 10 years now they're putting pretty high-end condos
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: in and like all these younger people are moving in
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: and flipping the houses It's turned into this very trendy
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: neighborhood that 10.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Years ago, nobody would have lived there.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: It really has such a fine line on that as
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: to just when somebody decides to take an interest and
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: wants to fix up a neighborhood. There's no rhyme or
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: reason sometimes. It's just where it happens. It's strange.
• 39:42
  Speaker 16: Gil Holland, who's REP, his office is in Portland. He
• 39:46
  Speaker 16: actually is working on elevating the the neighborhood he's very
• 39:50
  Speaker 16: involved we actually have um uh i think there are
• 39:54
  Speaker 16: 40 people coming from the neighborhood of we um uh
• 39:58
  Speaker 16: the film basically said uh anyone in the neighborhood who
• 40:02
  Speaker 16: wants to come that can't afford it we got you
• 40:04
  Speaker 16: um and so gil got them uh tickets which is
• 40:07
  Speaker 16: really beautiful and there's 40 people coming that's great we're
• 40:10
  Speaker 16: excited yeah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 17: But also they were so lovely when we shot in
• 40:13
  Speaker 17: this neighborhood That was one of my favorite things. Like
• 40:16
  Speaker 17: people stopped traffic for us. Like people couldn't have been nicer,
• 40:20
  Speaker 17: couldn't have been kinder, couldn't have been more supportive and gentle. And,
• 40:25
  Speaker 17: you know, you got a location. I mean, it was
• 40:27
  Speaker 17: just like, it was, it was all, people were like, what?
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:32
  Speaker 17: We got to get out for that. We got to
• 40:33
  Speaker 17: support that, you know? So I think it's, it, it's
• 40:39
  Speaker 17: an amazing place. This is a, this is a very, very,
• 40:43
  Speaker 17: very special place.
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: Well, and you, you talk it earlier before we started
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: about the trying to find new ways to shoot in
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: different parts of the country.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: Did you want to kind of go into that? Cause
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: it was really kind of interesting hearing your take on
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: it coming from, you know, New York originally working in
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: LA all these years, but now having experienced our town
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: and our town attempting to welcome, you know, filmmaking into it,
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: then it's... I don't know. You had a really good
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: take on it as far as trying to bring it into...
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: Trying to bring the industry to somewhere like this.
• 41:16
  Speaker 17: I think that this is a great industry to bring
• 41:18
  Speaker 17: to this town. If you look at Georgia, Georgia, I
• 41:21
  Speaker 17: believe somebody tonight told us that their profit margin was
• 41:27
  Speaker 17: $ 10 billion. Billion? Billion. $ 10 billion. And that came into
• 41:34
  Speaker 17: the state cash money It comes in bonded. It comes
• 41:38
  Speaker 17: to the banks. It comes to your hotels. It comes
• 41:42
  Speaker 17: to your caterers. It comes to your drivers. It comes
• 41:46
  Speaker 17: to your, this is a very people heavy field. You
• 41:50
  Speaker 17: cannot make a movie without a very large body of
• 41:53
  Speaker 17: people there. It's a craft. Like every single thing, every
• 41:57
  Speaker 17: shot you see in a movie probably has, I don't know, 10,
• 42:01
  Speaker 17: 20 people involved in making that shot happen. There's a
• 42:04
  Speaker 17: lot of jobs created where people can stay where they love.
• 42:10
  Speaker 17: This is only an industry that's going to be good
• 42:13
  Speaker 17: for any state in the United States. The movie, the
• 42:17
  Speaker 17: television industry is the second largest export that the United
• 42:22
  Speaker 17: States of America has.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Kind of what.
• 42:25
  Speaker 17: We do best. The stories that Kentucky has, the narrative
• 42:29
  Speaker 17: that the people who love stories hear, why Kentucky isn't
• 42:33
  Speaker 17: taking a bite out of those billions. So go for it.
• 42:37
  Speaker 16: I think it's really growing here actually.
• 42:39
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Just in the last, that's what, yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: Susie from the film fest earlier had like a statistic
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: and it was like so many, you know, millions of
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: dollars have been set aside for the film industry. But like,
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: three fourths of it had all kicked.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: In in the last two to three years.
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: So like just in two to three years, it is
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: just completely just multiplied over and over again.
• 42:59
  Speaker 17: And you will see that profit and it doesn't pollute.
• 43:03
  Speaker 17: You don't need coal. You don't need anything that's going
• 43:07
  Speaker 17: to cause no fracking there. It's just, you know, can
• 43:10
  Speaker 17: you turn the lights on? Are there trucks? Are, is
• 43:13
  Speaker 17: there manpower? Is there woman power? Are there people who
• 43:16
  Speaker 17: are willing and you will, you will have the industry here.
• 43:20
  Speaker 17: That's what the industry needs. And the industry wants, you know, L.A.
• 43:24
  Speaker 17: is an amazing place. And I haven't really spent all
• 43:27
  Speaker 17: that much time there shooting. I've shot enough. But, you know,
• 43:31
  Speaker 17: it's a little jaded. And when you can come to
• 43:34
  Speaker 17: a place where people are so excited that you're here,
• 43:38
  Speaker 17: that's something that everyone in this industry is going to want.
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: And it's a tone that I would think everybody on
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: the shoot picks up on, everybody involved in the project.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Picks up on. Totally.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: 100%. Yeah.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess tell people what.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: The situation is with this movie and where it's going
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: next and how they can either look for it to
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: find out more about it or to actually see it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 16: So we premiered at the LA Film Festival in June,
• 44:04
  Speaker 16: and we got really great reviews. And Auden, who is
• 44:09
  Speaker 16: the lead, got a special jury award for breakout performance.
• 44:13
  Speaker 16: So it's going really well, and we have some... festival's
• 44:16
  Speaker 16: coming up that we can't announce yet. Um, and we
• 44:19
  Speaker 16: are in talks with distributors right now. So, uh, stay
• 44:23
  Speaker 16: tuned for that, but, uh, go to Facebook, follow us
• 44:28
  Speaker 16: beauty Mark film on Facebook and on Twitter, it's film
• 44:32
  Speaker 16: beauty Mark. Uh, so that's beauty Mark film on Facebook
• 44:36
  Speaker 16: and film beauty Mark on Twitter and follow us. And, um, yeah.
• 44:41
  Speaker 16: And then you'll be able to see it somewhere near
• 44:43
  Speaker 16: you or on your little screen or, somewhere in the
• 44:47
  Speaker 16: near future.
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: That's that's changed so much again just in the last
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: 10 years just the distribution avenues now is amazing so
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: it's it's kind of great I think for independent film
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: more than anything because it just gives you a way
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: to get it out there to people which didn't exist
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: up until this point really it's like especially now that
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: all the small theaters are going out it's like unless
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: you can get it in a chain that's it so
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: I love this new way that we have to work
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: with people and get it out to the audience so Well.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. Thanks for being on. Thanks
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: for having us.
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely get the word out about your movie.
• 45:22
  Speaker 10: This hidden place, this private part, this secret door into
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: my heart.
• 45:31
  Speaker 14: I'll keep it for you.
• 45:37
  Speaker 12: This precious jewel, this darling part, Now, I love Kentucky.
• 46:12
  Speaker 17: This is a great place. This is a place where
• 46:15
  Speaker 17: billions of dollars could walk into this day. And you
• 46:19
  Speaker 17: could keep the beauty of this place. You could keep
• 46:22
  Speaker 17: your workforce employed.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: You could employ more people.
• 46:26
  Speaker 17: You could become a major player in any statement you
• 46:30
  Speaker 17: want to make in the world. Statements about this, where
• 46:34
  Speaker 17: you bring in your causes, your.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: Personal causes to the global humanity.
• 46:39
  Speaker 17: You could do anything you wanted. You could be a
• 46:42
  Speaker 17: major player in how humanity advances. Put some money behind
• 46:48
  Speaker 17: this industry. Get this industry into your stand. Steal George's business.
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: And once again, a big thank you to the Louisville
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: Film Society for letting us come out and be part
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: of the event. So to find out what they've got
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: in the works, go to louisvillefilmsociety.org. So thank you to
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: Harris and Catherine for sitting out there. outside we're really
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: we're in a parking lot at that point just that's
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: become my favorite is where do i end up and
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: loiter around and talk to people because that's the only
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: way to make things work is that's just kind of
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: doing it on the fly and it's become an art
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: form for me now how do i make this work
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: and not get yelled at but yet still have good
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: sound do you ever try to get them in the
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: bathroom um on the recent episode we got kicked out
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: of a fitting room I didn't think they were still
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: using it as a fitting room, but turns out when
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: the girl came in to change, and.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: She wouldn't just do it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: So square.
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: Anyway, yeah, so I can't think of anything that's not, yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: I've done something equally that weird. I've sat in the
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: middle of a hallway in a hotel before and done
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: an entire, almost an entire episode.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I've heard you get obliterated by doors before.
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, that was fun, too. That wasn't even me.
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: My poor co-host for that snippet. She was only on
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: for like 10 minutes, but just got nailed by an
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: opening door. Pelvest. Just right on the bone. Right there.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: The door hurts, though, because she laughs. And it's that
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: kind of laugh where it hurts so bad, I can
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: only laugh. Because you just hear this collision and just.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: squealing laughter. I'm like, she's in so much pain right now.
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: These are the weird things you run into, much like
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: the people yelling at me in the parking lot that night.
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of strange things that happen in the
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: process of recording this show. I'm kind of okay with
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: it now. It's just part of the journey. Again, that's
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: what this is every week. It's just adventures with the
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: movie geek. God knows where I'll be and who I'll
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: be talking to and what sort of craziness will ensue,
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: but that's what happened. So, uh, in addition, I guess
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: go as, as they said, they've, they've got, they're still
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: pinning down details for the official release. It's still just
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: kind of hitting film fest now. So follow the movie
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: on Facebook and Twitter and, um, look for it and
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: check it out. It's, it's well-made and, and specifically the
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: Alden Thornton is, uh, I, She isn't on this segment,
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: but she was there for the premiere that night. She
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: came in on a different flight, and I talked to
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: her that night, and she's super nice and, like, still
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: kind of humble. So, like, again, amazed because she's so
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: good in this movie.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Like, it's amazing.
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: She actually did get a special breakout performance award at
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: LA Film Fest when it premiered there, like, a couple of,
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: I think it was even a couple of weeks before
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: it came to flyover, so... Yeah, she's pretty amazing in it.
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: So just for that performance and Catherine, it's worth seeing.
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: So keep an eye out for it. Otherwise, I think
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: we're wrapping this one up, guys. Anything else to pass along?
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: Get fired up for Halloween. I'm assuming we're planning special
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: Halloween episodes right now. I might be responsible for some
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: of them, but I'll throw... We gotta do it.
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: We gotta do it.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: I'll throw it out there to you if you want
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: to do.
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: We can do like a side-by-side comparison of like the TV.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Movie and the.
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: Do we need to?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 50:40
  Speaker 9: We'll see.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: I feel like people... Nobody really has fond memories of
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: the second half of that miniseries.
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: It's all Pennywise, and don't get me wrong, Tim Curry
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: is genius.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: He is amazing, specifically in that role.
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: Whenever I rewatch it, just for getting into the Halloween spirit,
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: which is occasionally, but yeah, it's right around that hour,
• 51:05
  Speaker 9: 25 minute mark. I'm like, as soon as his head
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: flies open, I'm like, All right, I've seen enough.
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: Probably the end of night one on ABC Night of
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: the Movies or whatever cheesy miniseries action was going on
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: with that thing.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: They did a good miniseries on The Shining, though, because
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: it was so.
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: Close to the book. It was so much closer to
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: the book.
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: What was that? The whatever Rose.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: Aubrey Rose?
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: Audrey Rose?
• 51:35
  Speaker 9: Whatever, like that weird house, the creepy.
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: It's one of those... Is it Rose Red? Rose Red,
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: that's what it is.
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: He's got a couple of things that have Rose in
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: the title.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say.
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: That's almost the downside of covering a Stephen King property
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: is he has so many. And yes, he has built-in
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: fans because he's Stephen King. But at the same time,
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: it's like, I think.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: You lose track.
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: Because I can't even begin to name off all the
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: ones they made back in the 80s. So there's probably
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: good ones in there that I never saw. And then, like,
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: once it got to 90s and, like, 2000s, he was, like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: turning in weird stuff under the radar on, like, regular TV. And, like,
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of cool stuff that probably got made.
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: And it's just, like, gets lost in the Stephen King
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: shuffle of.
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: There's our episode. Dig out something that got lost.
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: Drag out every Stephen King ever. That can just be
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: a running series. We can go revisit all of the...
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: We can go chronological. We can just randomly pick some.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I probably... I'm all for it.
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: In high school, I read a lot of his books.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: That was one of his.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And I guess for a boy, that's like teen romance.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: For me in high school, I read a lot.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: But it was presentable.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: You'd be like, no, people get killed. It's cool, dude.
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I read, let's see, I read It in like
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: fifth grade.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: That's what happened.
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: And I think I'd started to read like the Harry
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: Potter series before that. And after I read It, I
• 52:53
  Speaker 9: was like, fuck this. Like, never again. No more young
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: adult for the rest of my life.
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: I like giant spiders murdering clowns.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I don't need these wizards no more.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: It's a tough book.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: It's like 900 pages.
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: And weird orgies and stuff.
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: The second half of the.
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: Movie is weird. The second half of the book is
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: more weird. Yeah, I've seen that Harry Potter video. There's
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: a whole animated one too I stumbled on the other day.
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying I was looking for it, but man, Hermione. Anyway, Halloween.
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: I guess we should start planning that.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: We'll get on that right now. Otherwise, that about does it.
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: We will return next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I never had it. I never wanted it.
• 53:46
  Speaker 11: I never had your beauty mark.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, black hair and.
• 53:55
  Speaker 11: His old eyes my early childhood was not as simple
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: as you're said in the country no I did not
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  Speaker 11: have a fear of none.
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  Speaker 10: Too dressed in black but.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 14: Have your taste I.
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  Speaker 11: Had no Homemade clothes, homemade curtains of the same material.
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  Speaker 7: I never had it.
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  Speaker 1: I never wanted it.
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  Speaker 7: I never had.
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  Speaker 11: Your beauty mark, beauty mark.
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  Speaker 1: But I do have your taste. And I do have
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  Speaker 1: your grace.
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  Speaker 14: And long hands I thank Alice Sing her lovely Norma You.
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  Speaker 11: Pray for our hope, son In a deep river manly
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  Speaker 11: but still i know you love me even if i
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  Speaker 11: don't have your.
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  Speaker 14: Beauty run forest run no.
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  Speaker 16: She doesn't hear that suzy running she's very special yeah
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  Speaker 16: i think that's hungry like.
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  Speaker 7: The wolf Right now. Pizza waiting for you.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm hungry like the world.
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