Latest / Amigos, Afraid! / 58. Mountain Myths: The Moon-Eyed People & Mt. Everest (Part 1)
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- 0:00From the darkest depths in the Appalachian Mountains.
- 0:02To the highest point on Earth. Welcome back to Amigos Afraid.
- 0:06This week I'm haunted by the Moonlight People, a pale blue
- 0:10eyed civilization said to have lived in caves deep under the
- 0:13Appalachian Mountains who only come out at night.
- 0:16And Part 1 of my story unearths the treacherous journey up Mount
- 0:20Everest, from the brutal conditions of the Death Zone to
- 0:24the mystery surrounding George Mallory and Andrew Irvine's
- 0:27disappearance in 1924. You have no idea what I'm
- 1:15talking about. Absolutely not.
- 1:16Yeah. You're not on that side of
- 1:17TikTok. No, I know like.
- 1:22No this is like it's like 3 little AI cats that are dancing
- 1:28to this like little techno house song.
- 1:31Is it a real song or is it also like an AI song?
- 1:34I hope it's not an AI song because I'm already like
- 1:37supporting you by watching this cute little cats dancing.
- 1:40You gave it 100 streams but. These cats have ruined my life
- 1:44because they're so darn cute. Wow, and you haven't sent it to
- 1:46me? Interesting I.
- 1:48Have it right here. It's the first I'm so behind on
- 1:52on my videos. It's it's insane.
- 1:54I was on here, it refreshed. Nevermind.
- 1:56Oh my God, earlier today I found a really good post that I had
- 1:59yet to like. I don't remember what it was at
- 2:01this point. OK, got a notification.
- 2:04Checked my notification, came back to the app.
- 2:06Gone gone. What hate on the happens?
- 2:11They're fucking with you. I know.
- 2:13They're just like, ooh, you thought that was good?
- 2:15Ooh, it's gone. Ooh.
- 2:17Like, did you just got something?
- 2:18You want to check this out? Oh.
- 2:20This was going to give you like the answers to Life sucks too
- 2:23listed. It took too long.
- 2:25You try to open it within the 1st 2 seconds.
- 2:29You know what's crazy? Allegedly, we're going to have a
- 2:31hurricane this weekend. That's right.
- 2:34Guys, we're in Southern California at risk of a
- 2:36potential hurricane. I was just saying that out loud
- 2:39earlier, and I said udakan, which is the Spanish word for
- 2:42hurricane. Yes, such a good word.
- 2:44Yeah, amazing. Like Udakan, it just sounds so
- 2:47powerful. Yeah, like, oh, that should be a
- 2:49band name. The North.
- 2:53The North, they sued the list. The West, I don't know.
- 2:59It's what It's WWI. Don't know.
- 3:02I'm not on the episode of Rebel Day yet.
- 3:04Oh, they talk about that. Oh no, I'm just saying that's
- 3:07not learning Spanish. Oh, that's right, you're
- 3:08Duolingo My. Running.
- 3:09My running joke has lost its legs.
- 3:12It wasn't funny. I'm so sorry.
- 3:14Hi guys. Welcome.
- 3:15Welcome back. This is your favorite podcast?
- 3:18I'm Migos Afraid I'm Brian. Amigo.
- 3:22You know, say your name. Tell them your name, amigo.
- 3:25I'm Jerry. Oh, don't act like you hate it,
- 3:28girl. That's your identity.
- 3:29Geez, question what's up when you see like those Instagram
- 3:32memes that are like, oh, this people's names that start with
- 3:37this letter. I know.
- 3:37Exactly what you're going to say.
- 3:39Which do you identify? So lucky for me I just go with
- 3:43the initial that it's not in the video.
- 3:46So if it's saying Aji say Emma G.
- 3:50Well, no, OK, maybe I wasn't specific enough because
- 3:52sometimes I will send Jerry one that says, oh, this letter owes
- 3:55you a beer and it's J or it's AGI like to think I have higher
- 3:59chances of my friend getting me something because he goes by
- 4:01both names. No, I'm talking about the
- 4:04letters that are like, oh, what's your fairy elf name?
- 4:07And it's like and then the your birthday or something.
- 4:12I go with a better one. So if the J has a If the J has a
- 4:16better name, then I stick to that one.
- 4:18But if the G has a better first name, then I stick to the G.
- 4:22Once again, it's just all convenience and whatever I.
- 4:25Am really cute and. No, I don't.
- 4:28I just. Must be nice.
- 4:31Two first names. Don't say don't you have two?
- 4:35I know, but it's not. I don't have a middle name, I
- 4:38don't have two first names, no. I guess.
- 4:39I guess versions. Well, I mean.
- 4:41Some people call me Bry. Yeah, like 3 people call me.
- 4:44Bry, but do they call your gamertag?
- 4:46Cosmic I was playing with new people guys.
- 4:51Only update I have from this whole weekend is that I am once
- 4:55again gripped by the balls by Fortnite.
- 4:59So I was playing and I joined a friend who had a group of other
- 5:02gays also playing and I didn't know them.
- 5:05They start calling me by my gamertag.
- 5:07They're like cosmic over here. Cosmic.
- 5:09I dropped a shield for you. I felt so.
- 5:11Gamer. Such a flex.
- 5:13Like it just in the moment being called your gamertag.
- 5:15Like Wow, like you. You see me?
- 5:17Yeah, You recognize who I am. Must start calling you Vanta.
- 5:22That's cool Vanta, there's a shotgun for you over here.
- 5:27Pinged it for me. Don't touch it.
- 5:30Is your name Vanta? No, it's not.
- 5:32They send you the video of that one girl who is playing with her
- 5:34friend Jose and he keeps getting knocked out.
- 5:37You said you're behind on TikTok.
- 5:38I'm. Super behind on SO.
- 5:39Funny because they're like a duo and they're the last ones alive.
- 5:43And Jose, her friend gets knocked out.
- 5:45Jose, Oh my God. Jose, roll over here and you
- 5:49just see his figure just rolling across the map trying to get to
- 5:52her. She revives him.
- 5:54He immediately gets knocked out. Jose, could you stay alive for
- 5:57one second? Oh my God, it's so funny.
- 6:01That does remind me of one that I I did watch where it was my
- 6:05team in it and I playing whatever game and it's just like
- 6:08flying in from the bus and then just immediately like dying
- 6:13because you let go of the freaking what are they called
- 6:17the gliders too early. So yeah, the story of my life
- 6:20sometimes, sometimes I feel like I'm peak elite gaming gamer.
- 6:25I'm locked in, I'm getting leading the leaderboard and then
- 6:28other times I'm just like I forget how to press a button and
- 6:31I get 0 kills. Or your brain kind of buffers
- 6:33and you kind of just stand there looking at the enemy.
- 6:35Yeah, happened to me today. Yeah, I don't know.
- 6:38It just happens, you know? Wow.
- 6:39Is this why we're not professional gamers?
- 6:41Yeah, maybe. One day, one day we'll get
- 6:44played well, one day we'll get paid to play video games.
- 6:47That would be nice that. 'D be the dream.
- 6:50He was afraid of not getting paid to play video games.
- 6:53That's what haunted me this week.
- 6:54Damn, friend. Well, I don't have too many
- 6:57updates either. I had a really chill weekend.
- 6:59It's been a solid week. Happy Thursday.
- 7:01We had a, you know, one of those weekends where you just get to
- 7:05clean and catch up on things and put some love into that, into
- 7:09the home and that's it. Just have a chill time.
- 7:12We did watch wrestling over the weekend.
- 7:15Shout out to Matt Frenchy for having us over.
- 7:18It was super cool because it wasn't the WWE because fuck the
- 7:21WWE. But we watched AEW all in.
- 7:25Just rearranged the letters. Make it a.
- 7:27Little bit EW. So it was like a it was like
- 7:30their Super Bowl, I guess you could say.
- 7:33All these big names, either title matches or just matches, I
- 7:39guess I don't know. I wasn't there for the
- 7:40beginning, but they were super fun, dude.
- 7:42Like they were legit. These guys are these people are
- 7:45stunt actors. Like they are so good at what
- 7:48they do. They know how to fall, they know
- 7:50how to take a hit, they know how to break a fall.
- 7:53Like it's so good. They're these are professionals.
- 7:55So yes, it's scripted, but it's still like top tier stunts and
- 8:02performances. So I had a great time.
- 8:04I saw some luchadores from like the Mexican.
- 8:10So I'm just waiting for some of the people that I follow be
- 8:14called up to the mainstage, which is AEW.
- 8:17So it was fun. Shout out to them again one more
- 8:19time. We'll we'll come back to this
- 8:21later, but that's the only update I had.
- 8:23Wow. OK, you're putting a little pin
- 8:26in it for later? Pin in that.
- 8:28I'm at the edge of my seat, but with a pin in it.
- 8:35Like we'll come back later. Oh, I think I'm in a pin in my
- 8:37seat. No, I'm not that.
- 8:42Well, amigo, I mean, since we're kind of at the end of our recap.
- 8:46I know we kept this short today. What's what's been haunting you
- 8:49lately? It's a.
- 8:52Little depressing to say, but honestly, I am still haunted by
- 8:57the loss of Dolly Barton. Which I was just told a fucking
- 9:03mess with her Hollywood star I. Saw that today that's they
- 9:06defaced her Hollywood star. Don't worry, they are fixing it.
- 9:09But someone went scratched out her name and took all the
- 9:11flowers. Whoever that is, we're fighting.
- 9:15Imagine disrespecting one of the most loved persons beloved
- 9:19bitterly. Has done nothing but help the
- 9:22world. Exactly.
- 9:23People in the world, and to do that like just evil people, man,
- 9:26evil. Pieces of Well, we're a little
- 9:32over a week since the news broke, and I'm still thinking
- 9:35about it daily. Yeah.
- 9:37Which, by the way, I also want to note that the next day we
- 9:39lost another icon, Tim Curry. Oh, my God, it was blow, dude.
- 9:46Tough. Safe to say it's been a heavy
- 9:49week for a lot of people. I imagine a huge crossover to a
- 9:54fans, but it's been it's been dark.
- 9:58So Dolly has been on my mind a lot.
- 10:00On Friday I watched Steel Magnolias for the first time and
- 10:04I bawled my eyes out. Have you seen it?
- 10:06Never. Oh Jerry, it's so good and so
- 10:09sad. It's such a good movie and
- 10:12honestly, Dolly is. Dolly was such a talented
- 10:16person, we truly did not deserve her.
- 10:19Anyways, I got to thinking, I wonder what Dolly was haunted
- 10:24by? Like if she was on the show,
- 10:26what weird topic, creature or folklore would she share with
- 10:31us? I know it'd be hilarious because
- 10:33that woman had jokes on jokes. They just came out of her like
- 10:35freaking air. Yeah, I feel like she'd be
- 10:38afraid of the two sweaty dudes hosting podcast.
- 10:40No, I think she'd be cool with us.
- 10:41Mean more. You're a street man.
- 10:44She'd be like, oh, this queen, I can.
- 10:46I can talk country music with her.
- 10:48So I got to digging this week. I kind of want to honor Dolly
- 10:53Parton in a unique and kind of weird way by diving into legends
- 10:58of her birthplace of the Great Smoky Mountains in Tennessee.
- 11:02So this week I'm haunted by the mysterious Moon Eyed People, an
- 11:08underground humanoid society believed to predate Native
- 11:11Americans in the Appalachian Mountains.
- 11:15Oh hell no. We went there today, I see.
- 11:20If you grew up anywhere near the Appalachian Mountains, which is
- 11:23a 2000 mile long stretch of mountains that stands across,
- 11:26Internet was telling me different things.
- 11:28Anywhere between 12 and 18 states because it's either the
- 11:31actual mountain range or just the surrounding areas, but it
- 11:34covers a huge section of the United States.
- 11:38Then you've probably heard wild stories about strange creatures
- 11:41and spirits terrorizing the woods around you.
- 11:44Maybe Dolly heard those stories. Appalachian children might have
- 11:48been warned amongst a lot of things about the moonlight
- 11:51people who roam the woods at night.
- 11:54I wonder if this is like a regional version of the kukui
- 11:57for them. My parents said not to be out at
- 12:00night because the kukui would get you.
- 12:02I guess in this instance don't be out at night because the
- 12:05small pale people with night vision might come find you.
- 12:09That's so cool. I mean, that sucks, but that's
- 12:11so cool. Like night vision, allegedly.
- 12:15The Moon Eyed People were a tribe that predated the Cherokee
- 12:18natives who lived in present day Tennessee, North Carolina, and
- 12:22Georgia. Oral history from the Cherokee
- 12:24Indians mention a group of small human like beings that had
- 12:27alarmingly pale skin and bright blue eyes that were blinded by
- 12:31the sun. They would only be seen at night
- 12:34when their vision worked under the dimness of the moon.
- 12:37During the day they lived underground and in caves to
- 12:39avoid the sun as it was damaging to their eyes, hence the name
- 12:43the Moonlight People. The natives described them as
- 12:46having flat faces and noting that the men had long beards.
- 12:51Question, do you think you could survive as a night dweller?
- 12:55Am I just going based off of my current my current features and
- 12:58traits? It was just one day someone
- 13:01decided for you that you have to hide during the day and come out
- 13:04at night. How would your life change?
- 13:07Well, I feel like it'd be difficult unless I had some sort
- 13:09of night vision, you know, or. Kind of have to adapt.
- 13:12Yeah, you'd have to adapt. So that's why that's why I asked
- 13:15like, do I keep my current features and traits or do I get
- 13:17like a little tweak? You can tell me like what you
- 13:19think you would need to adjust. OK, Potentially.
- 13:23I feel like at night because of the stealth that comes with
- 13:26like, you know, I'm thinking food hunting and stuff.
- 13:29I think being bigger is a flaw. So maybe smaller to blend in and
- 13:34hide, be more stealthy, have bigger eyes to adapt to the lack
- 13:40of light, and have wings. I want wings.
- 13:45I wonder if that is the case. You're like a night dweller.
- 13:49The same fears that you have of the dark you start having for
- 13:52the day. Oh yeah, you don't know what's
- 13:55walking out there at daytime. Everything's awake.
- 13:58Yeah, most things are asleep at night time.
- 14:02The Cherokee stories of these moon eyed people eventually made
- 14:04their way into American print work in the late 18th century.
- 14:08They first appeared in literature in the 1797 book New
- 14:11Views of the Origin of the Tribes and Nations of America by
- 14:15naturalist Benjamin Smith Barton.
- 14:17According to Barton, he spoke with a Revolutionary War hero
- 14:21who had experience with Cherokee elders and was told the story
- 14:24about how the indigenous people discovered the moon eyed people
- 14:27and how their strained relationship LED them to war.
- 14:32Wow. This is in fact the case of he
- 14:34said she said. However, no moon eyed
- 14:36representatives have shared their side of the story.
- 14:40Allegedly, when the Cherokee came into the area, they were
- 14:42not the first inhabitants they had come across.
- 14:45Quote, Very small people, perfectly white.
- 14:49End Quote. This was shocking to the natives
- 14:52as they were drastically different to them.
- 14:54Their pale skin and beards were an aggressive contrast to their
- 14:58dark skin and bare faces. They took shelter in caves and
- 15:02took interest in the Cherokee who began settling nearby.
- 15:06Author Lynn Lasaya writes about them in the book The Secrets and
- 15:09Mysteries of the Cherokee. Little people saying quote, they
- 15:13come to your house at night and the people inside hear them
- 15:15talking, but they must not go out.
- 15:17And in the morning they find their corn gathered or the field
- 15:20cleared. As if a whole force of men had
- 15:22been at work. These people were stealing their
- 15:25crops. Oh, I thought they were helping.
- 15:27No. They walked out to an empty
- 15:30field. Because they said organize like
- 15:32corn or something. And I was like, oh wow, they're
- 15:34like harvesting and like putting it at their.
- 15:36Doorstep organize together to steal the corn.
- 15:39Wow. I see.
- 15:39At least that's how I'm reading. Gotcha.
- 15:41Because why else would you have beef with them?
- 15:42Yeah. Your neighbors.
- 15:43Yeah. My neighbor was stealing my
- 15:46corn. Best believe I'm starting a war.
- 15:49I was about to say, what would your reaction be to seeing a
- 15:51bunch of small paper white beings sneaking around your
- 15:54field that night? Do you intercept?
- 15:57Yeah, you have to. That's your, that's your, that's
- 15:59your food. What if it's just you and
- 16:01there's like 40 of them? I mean I think one grown adult
- 16:07can take down no sorry 100 grown.
- 16:11Adults can take. Down one gorilla so I feel like
- 16:131 grown adult can take on 40 smaller sized beings.
- 16:20OK but now it's at night though. But it's at night, so they have
- 16:23the advantage. You are getting ready to go to
- 16:25bed. They practically have night
- 16:27vision. Do I have a weapon?
- 16:29I don't know, it's your scenario.
- 16:30How are you think you can defend?
- 16:33Your land is on you. OK, Don't get too violent.
- 16:35No, no, no, no. If I had one.
- 16:40Don't get too violent immediately thinks of like that.
- 16:42Harvest the harvester. No, no, The big machine, like it
- 16:46comes out in cars. It's like the bull.
- 16:48This is the year 1500. Think what you said.
- 16:50It's my reality dude, I'm going over them with this frigging
- 16:54huge Oh my God machine that just harvests everything in its path.
- 16:59I'm. Going to re edit that to the
- 17:01question is going to be how would you deal with 100 hot men
- 17:04showing up at your door? Perfect, Yeah.
- 17:06Those are great. Those are great.
- 17:09Well, according to some versions of the legend, there was a
- 17:12conflict between the Cherokee people and the moon eyed people
- 17:14or resources. According to outlets Obscura,
- 17:17one version of the story claims that the Cherokee orchestrated
- 17:20an ambush, launching a surprise attack on the night of a full
- 17:24moon at Fort Mountain. That's when they're most
- 17:27powerful. No, it was just bright enough
- 17:30for the Cherokees to see, but the moonlight completely blinded
- 17:34the sensitive eyes of the moonlight people.
- 17:37It wasn't just oh they see in the moonlight, no, their eyes
- 17:40are too sensitive. So the dimness of the moon
- 17:43compared to the sun allowed them to see better at night.
- 17:46But if it's still too bright, they're at a disadvantage.
- 17:49Which if you're in an area that has very little light pollution,
- 17:53moonlight is all you need to get by.
- 17:56So I I can see that. Because the moonlight was so
- 17:58bright, it easily allowed the Cherokees to push them westward
- 18:01and out of the region. So how do we know the Moonlight
- 18:04People actually existed in the Appalachian Mountains?
- 18:07Well, the main proof of life is credited to a structure
- 18:10discovered on a mountaintop just South of the Tennessee Georgia
- 18:13border. It's literally in the name Fort
- 18:16Mountain, Georgia. Wow.
- 18:19As you get close to the top of the mountain, you'll find a
- 18:21massive zigzag Stonewall that's over 800 feet long.
- 18:25According to Cherokee history, the structure was built by the
- 18:28Moonlight people as a defense mechanism, hoping it would
- 18:31protect them during the war. War is also a very harsh word
- 18:34for the situation because, as they said, it's not very
- 18:36substantiated. This is just like local myth.
- 18:40Yeah. However, the timeline is a
- 18:42little iffy since I cannot find an accurate date of when this
- 18:45alleged war happened. As I said, it's just word of
- 18:48mouth, he said. She said archaeologists claim
- 18:51that the wall was built between the year 500 and 1500.
- 18:56Wow, 1000 year difference when this wall could have been made.
- 18:59Just ballpark in here, you know? And there's no clear explanation
- 19:03of who built it. I guess people weren't as
- 19:05obsessed with taking credit for things in the past.
- 19:08They didn't want to just feel the need to slap their name on
- 19:11it. Yeah.
- 19:12Yeah. Like everything nowadays.
- 19:13Yeah. That's on being selfless.
- 19:15Yeah. What's the what's the new
- 19:16change? The The Gulf of America, The
- 19:19American late. I don't know.
- 19:20Yeah, just something unnecessary.
- 19:24It could also be that there was no written language.
- 19:26Just saying. True, just saying.
- 19:28Another piece of evidence of their existence can be found at
- 19:31the Cherokee County Historical Museum in Murphy, NC.
- 19:34A farmer had uncovered a strange statue made of soapstone back in
- 19:38the 1840s that depicts 2 human entities with giant heads and
- 19:42tiny bodies. People believe that this is a
- 19:45depiction of the Moon Eye people because of their builds.
- 19:48Flat face. Look at that I'm showing.
- 19:51Wow, now I see the picture. It all makes sense, yes?
- 19:55They people nowadays think that this is evidence that they
- 19:58existed. OK, it's also just two humanoid
- 20:01figures. Yeah, but I see the flat face,
- 20:04you know, the eyes are, you know, well indented in that.
- 20:10Is it soapstone? Soapstone.
- 20:11Yeah, Soapstone. Wow.
- 20:14Lastly is the discovery of burial mounds not tied to the
- 20:17Cherokee? In 1882, a Native American
- 20:20newspaper shared a story about the discovery of burial mounds
- 20:22in Tennessee. They discovered the
- 20:25deteriorating remains of extremely small humans, and moon
- 20:29eyed believers have linked those burial mounds to the fabled
- 20:31people. The mounds are also mentioned in
- 20:35an 1810 letter from Tennessee Governor John Sevier.
- 20:38He claimed that a Cherokee leader told him that the burial
- 20:41mounds had been made by white people pushed from the area by
- 20:45Native Americans. So who could these moon eyed
- 20:50people be? There's honestly like a bunch of
- 20:53theories. OK. 1st is the theory that
- 20:57they're in albino tribe. Another group of moon eyed
- 21:02people as they were described was discovered in Panama in the
- 21:06late 17th century. They still exist today.
- 21:09Their name is the Guna people. GUNA.
- 21:12I've also seen it spelled KUNA but they experience high rates
- 21:16of albinism. Today 5 to 10% of the 80,000
- 21:20indigenous population live with albinism.
- 21:23I saw a picture and out of the like 10 group of kids, like
- 21:27three of them had albinism. No way.
- 21:29So albinism is a disorder that prevents the body from producing
- 21:32melanin. As a result, people with the
- 21:34disorder have an extremely pale complexion, white hair, and
- 21:38light blue eyes that are incredibly sensitive to light.
- 21:41Wow. Yeah, that's typically the case
- 21:45where like the animals with albinism.
- 21:47I know that was one of the first things that I read before I knew
- 21:51that my dog wasn't necessarily albino.
- 21:54You. Thought you had an albino dog?
- 21:56Yeah, Mookie, he's albino. Well, no, I thought when he was
- 21:59a puppy because like he, he's all white.
- 22:01He has some spots, which I think that's my first indicator that
- 22:04he's not. Yeah, because.
- 22:06They don't produce any melanin. His eyes are not like red like
- 22:10most animals with albinism. So but he was like when he was a
- 22:15puppy very he either ignored us. He couldn't like he just he was
- 22:19just a puppy. So he he didn't understand his
- 22:21name. But I figured like man,
- 22:23sometimes there's links with deaf, like being dogs that are
- 22:28deaf with albinism. So I was like, well, like he
- 22:31might be like albino because he can't listen.
- 22:34He can't hear us. He can't like he doesn't
- 22:36acknowledge when I call him, but I I was failing to for like
- 22:39remember that he was just a. Puppy.
- 22:41Yeah. He doesn't know his name.
- 22:42Yeah. And.
- 22:43Maybe he's just stubborn. Is he stubborn now?
- 22:46No, he's just old now. Oh yeah, fix.
- 22:49Yeah, Tabiquito, could this same disorder affect a small
- 22:54population in another part of the world?
- 22:56I don't see why not. Chances are slim, but they're
- 22:58never 0. The second theory is that the
- 23:02moon eyed people were actually Welsh settlers that predated the
- 23:06colonists. In the 1810 letter I mentioned
- 23:10earlier, the governor mentioned Welsh Indians and accredited the
- 23:14Stonewall to them. That is called the Maddock
- 23:16theory. Maddock was a Welsh Prince who
- 23:19traveled to North America almost 400 years before Christopher
- 23:22Columbus. Who we don't fuck with.
- 23:25Who's that It was? Who cares?
- 23:29Well, apparently Maddock had fled his homeland after his
- 23:31father had died. It had caused a civil war
- 23:35between him and his six brothers.
- 23:37OK, big fam. He decided he wanted absolutely
- 23:41nothing to do with it, so he grabbed some homies and the one
- 23:45brother he wasn't beefing with OK and they set sail across the
- 23:49Atlantic Ocean. He landed somewhere in Alabama
- 23:51and loved it so much that he went back to get more people to
- 23:54take to his new land and settle there.
- 23:57Some believe that the wall in the mountain was made by them,
- 23:59not the moonlight people. I think this is where some of
- 24:02the stories kind of start getting mixed together because
- 24:05there are accounts of Welsh settlers living in the
- 24:07Appalachian region in the 18th century.
- 24:10And some sources say that their mining activities led to a lot
- 24:13of tension with the Cherokee. Are the more recent settlers
- 24:17like, the actual, like, colonists, the actual ones that
- 24:19they were beefing with? But because most of the history
- 24:22was passed down orally, it kind of combined.
- 24:25Yeah. And could the story of the
- 24:27Cherokee driving out the moonlight?
- 24:29People have gotten mixed up with the stories of other Welsh
- 24:32settlers at the time? We don't really know, but it
- 24:37does make you wonder if we're looking at one story that got
- 24:40passed down but changed over generations, which we'd love to
- 24:44exaggerate every time someone knows us a story and we tell it
- 24:47to someone else. We talk about this in our
- 24:50previous like what, 3 episodes? So go back and listen.
- 24:53Every folklore is just exaggerated A teeny tiny amount
- 24:56every time it's told the last theory, they're aliens.
- 25:02Are they greys? This one is a modern theory
- 25:05based on the statues that were uncovered.
- 25:08They have some big heads and little bodies, which is very
- 25:11reminiscent of what people thought aliens might look like.
- 25:15I mean, the way they're described does kind of seem
- 25:18otherworldly if you've never seen something like that before,
- 25:21but alien theorists also believe that the wall on Fort Mountain
- 25:25is proof of a civilization way to advance further time.
- 25:29I don't know about this because let me show you a picture of.
- 25:32This of this Fort wall. I was going to say, is there
- 25:36current pictures of what it looks like or is it just
- 25:38drawings and it's 800 feet tall? Oh nice and crumbled.
- 25:42That pile of rocks Nice before. This was 800 feet tall.
- 25:47No, 800 feet long. 800 feet long.
- 25:51Not talk. Not talk.
- 25:53I was going to say, so these like little moon people were
- 25:55just like building 800 massive foot structures like that's
- 25:59cool. Sorry, I must have misheard you.
- 26:01I apologize. The was literally just rocks
- 26:04found in the area and kind of stacked on top of each other.
- 26:07It's a dam. Archaeologists believe that at
- 26:11its highest point hundreds of years ago, it was no more than a
- 26:15couple feet tall. Which would make sense at that
- 26:17point. Nope, it doesn't, because the
- 26:19whole theory is that they were used as a defense mechanism.
- 26:22But archaeologists are like, no, it's not tall enough for
- 26:24anything. But it was tall enough for the
- 26:26moon people. But clearly it wasn't a a
- 26:29successful defensive measure. For someone to just like, look
- 26:32over the wall. They're deciding there, they're
- 26:34like, we're safe, we're completely covered, steps over
- 26:39the wall. So honestly, its purpose remains
- 26:42unclear to this day, other than the fact that that's kind of
- 26:45weird that there's an 800 long path of just rocks from the area
- 26:48kind of piled on top of each other.
- 26:50Yeah. Could the descendants of those
- 26:51early Welsh people be the moon eyed people?
- 26:54Honestly, I don't know if we'll ever figure that out.
- 26:58It was just the Traviaso kids at night going out to the crops and
- 27:02stealing things of the Welsh settlers.
- 27:05As I said, most of the history of the Moonlight People was
- 27:07passed down orally, and there's a lot of gaps in between the
- 27:10stories. So there's no, there's nothing
- 27:12concrete. Yeah, this is just a tale that's
- 27:14been passed down by many generations.
- 27:16There's nothing concrete, just a pile of rocks.
- 27:21What's interesting is that this isn't even a large part of
- 27:24Cherokee lore culture. It's like a footnote that kind
- 27:27of got really popular with people obsessed with the idea of
- 27:31something strange, something possibly supernatural.
- 27:34You can guess what kind of people love that story.
- 27:38Seems convenient. Real convenient.
- 27:40I have beef with this whole story in the way that this is
- 27:42told. OK.
- 27:43I get you. So are the moon eye people real?
- 27:45Maybe. It could be past the moon.
- 27:48Maybe they were pushed out of the Appalachian Mountains and
- 27:50eventually integrated with other indigenous groups further West.
- 27:53Maybe the stories are based on a real population that disappeared
- 27:56over time. Or who knows, maybe they're
- 28:00still out there somewhere in the Appalachian Mountains, spending
- 28:03their days underground and walking through the woods at
- 28:05night. Add them to the list of entities
- 28:08haunting the area. Yeah, just one of many, you
- 28:11know, nothing crazy. They would be the least entity
- 28:16I'd be scared of because at the end of the day they're just
- 28:18people who look a little interesting.
- 28:20Yeah, it's little nocturnal dudes.
- 28:22Yeah, dudettes, it can't be in the sun.
- 28:25I understand. Yeah.
- 28:26Yeah, it's just stealing corn because I had it's right there.
- 28:28Yeah, you. Planted it for me.
- 28:30I wake up at night. Yeah, perfect.
- 28:32It's just there. I might as well help you harvest
- 28:34it and take it home with me. Wow, thank you friend, that was
- 28:37awesome. Yeah, I did not expect to get
- 28:39there when I was like, oh, I wonder what what happened in
- 28:41Dolly's childhood? Well, what did she hear?
- 28:44About in her neck of the woods, yeah.
- 28:46I wonder if that's like folklore that she heard.
- 28:49That's why you know. Like it's such a such a
- 28:52intriguing question. Like hmm, I wonder.
- 28:54What's the boogeyman to celebrities like?
- 28:56Yeah, yeah. Especially what was their
- 28:58childhood like? Wow.
- 29:00Especially her, she grew up poor.
- 29:02I don't know what that living situation looks like when you're
- 29:05in Tennessee in like the 50s and 60s because I think she was born
- 29:081950 something. The tales that have been told.
- 29:11Yeah. I wish I was there to hear him.
- 29:13Mm hmm. That way we can only imagine.
- 29:16I do know Dolly would tell this a lot funnier than I did.
- 29:18Oh, oops. And just like the sayings I'm
- 29:21sure too. Like I'm sure she'll whip out
- 29:22something that's super regional to the Tennessee over like what?
- 29:26But it would still be funny because.
- 29:27You would completely understand, because of course.
- 29:29Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like now, and I'm
- 29:32speaking for myself, Dolly would be someone that most people
- 29:38would add it to that rotation of if you could have a dinner with
- 29:40with famous people, alive or dead.
- 29:42She's coming to my table, yeah. She has a seat.
- 29:45She has a seat at a lot of people's table now.
- 29:47So thank you for that. You're welcome.
- 29:52Thank you for remembering Dolly. Of course.
- 29:54With the moonlight of people. They I don't think they run in
- 29:56the same circles unless they do, because girl was down with
- 29:59everyone. That's true.
- 30:00They're probably their friends. They came to her house for
- 30:04dinner. Yeah.
- 30:05Anyways, what haunted you this week, amigo?
- 30:07Friend, you know when you're laying down and it's like
- 30:10getting late but you're like no one more TikTok and then you're
- 30:12scrolling and then your fucking phone just hits you straight in
- 30:15the face and it wakes you up and you.
- 30:17Think you broke your nose? Oh, and you're like, OK, it's
- 30:19time. Happened to me this week.
- 30:22Oh, I'm so sorry. A reminder to put your phone
- 30:25down, charge it, and go to sleep.
- 30:28You can get a pop socket. And I could get a pop socket.
- 30:31I've just never, I've never been a fan of having.
- 30:33It's like something behind my phone, you know.
- 30:36So I'm going to take out the PIN.
- 30:38OK, Wow. It's the first time I've done
- 30:39that in SO. Long I know I've been sitting on
- 30:41it this whole time we. Wow, are you OK?
- 30:43I'm fine do. You need a Band-Aid.
- 30:46No. OK, you can keep this.
- 30:50I don't want it. Thank you.
- 30:52Anyways, I'm going to go back to the wrestling.
- 30:54So we were watching wrestling this past Sunday.
- 30:58So there was this match and it's this guy that I've recognized.
- 31:01He's come up on my timeline from time to time.
- 31:03Just some crazy, not too massive, because when you think
- 31:07of wrestlers, you think of these massive dudes that are like in
- 31:09undies and just tights and they're just wrestling.
- 31:11You would think I'd. Love this sport a lot more than
- 31:13this. Yeah, and we we mentioned that
- 31:15in the past, like Brian, I think you would have loved to seen
- 31:17these like sweaty, bloody at times wrestlers just going.
- 31:21Silence. It turns me off even if it's
- 31:24simulated. Yeah, yeah, OK.
- 31:25OK. Well, anyways, is this dude, his
- 31:28name is Darby Allen, not your typical wrestler.
- 31:30I think he's only like like 170 lbs like.
- 31:33Just he's skinny, yeah. Yeah, but he's cool.
- 31:36He's got like the face paint going on in half his face.
- 31:39He walked in and he has a skateboard.
- 31:41I come to find out that he used to be a like ex professional
- 31:44skateboarder. I mean, he still is, I'm sure,
- 31:47but he's just like this extreme dude wrestles like crazy, just
- 31:50like puts his body through it. But he performs like he is a
- 31:55excellent stuntman. Anyways, during the conversation
- 31:59of, you know, learning about Darby Allen, it came up that
- 32:02he's climbed Mount. Everest.
- 32:05OK, humble brat. Just like side quest and has
- 32:08like done tricks on a skateboard at the summit like just.
- 32:11What? How do you take your OK?
- 32:13Dude, I don't know, But that just got me thinking like, wow,
- 32:16Mount Everest growing up, you think of this massive landmark
- 32:21and you're like, yeah, some people have scaled it and
- 32:23climbed and reached the summit, and it's just inspiring.
- 32:25Yeah, it's an activity someone could do.
- 32:27It's someone keyword, someone not.
- 32:32Oh no. To hear someone that's going to
- 32:34conquer the tallest mountain on Earth that they're going to push
- 32:37themselves beyond human limits and stand on top of the world.
- 32:41It's motivational not for me, but it's very motivational and
- 32:45it makes you like account want to accomplish things that are
- 32:47just they seem impossible can't catch me climbing on every.
- 32:51No, I'm not built for that. That's not in our future for us
- 32:54both. No, no, for sure, for sure.
- 32:55We can't accomplish that. It's set our goals smaller.
- 32:58Realistic and attainable. A hill yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
- 33:01And we'll get into that too, so. Will we?
- 33:05The pin is back. The pin is back because oh,
- 33:08that's true. OK, put it back on there.
- 33:10I think it's very motivational until you remember what they
- 33:13actually have to walk through to get there.
- 33:15Mount Everest is not just the tallest mountain on Earth, it's
- 33:18one of the largest graveyards on the planet, with over 300
- 33:23recorded deaths, according to multiple sources.
- 33:25You. This is what really hooked me
- 33:27because at first I'm like, yeah, like, I just, I want to know.
- 33:29I want to see how many people have climbed Mount Everest.
- 33:32I want to be, how long does it take?
- 33:34But then you get more articles about the deaths and the
- 33:38specific things that the mountain preserves.
- 33:41Depending on which source you look at, it ranges from 300 to
- 33:44350 deaths as of 2026. According to NASA, Everest
- 33:49stands at 29,035 feet above sea level.
- 33:53Oh my God. At that elevation, the air
- 33:56contains only about 1/3 of the oxygen available at sea level.
- 34:00NASA explains that the weather can change with very little
- 34:03warning, trapping climbers high on the mountain during the
- 34:06monsoon season. Winds at the summit can exceed
- 34:08100 mph and create complete whiteout conditions.
- 34:12Ouch. And there's only a relatively
- 34:14short window each year when climbers can realistically
- 34:17attempt the summit. So imagine spending years
- 34:20training for this, spending thousands upon thousands of
- 34:23dollars traveling across the world, hiking for days just to
- 34:27reach Everest Base Camp. So your journey to climb to the
- 34:32where you start is you have to start there.
- 34:34You don't even start at the bottom.
- 34:35You have to climb up to the base you spend.
- 34:37Days like, hey guys, we're finally at the start.
- 34:40Yep, we we're like this wasn't the journey he like we haven't
- 34:43even started. No, Nope.
- 34:45After all that, you finally begin climbing towards.
- 34:48The Don't take me on this journey.
- 34:51I'm already tired, Jerry. No, no, I'm good.
- 34:53I'm this. Is just hypothetical.
- 34:55I'm just tired of talking about it.
- 34:57The higher you go, the less oxygen your body receives.
- 35:00Your muscles weaken, your thinking starts to slow down,
- 35:03your hands and feet become vulnerable to frostbite, and
- 35:07once you reach the area above roughly 26,000.
- 35:10Feet. There's only three dozen left.
- 35:12That you're entering what climbers call the Death Zone.
- 35:16That's what the last 3000 feet are, the death.
- 35:18The death zone. I'm scared.
- 35:20Not the living zone. Hold me.
- 35:23That's not a dramatic nickname. Somebody came up for a
- 35:26documentary. It's called the Death Zone
- 35:28because a human body cannot properly acclimate to that
- 35:31altitude. You can climb through it, but
- 35:34your body is slowly dying while you're there.
- 35:37NASA notes that even the climbers who first reached the
- 35:39summit, Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay in 1953, needed
- 35:46bottled oxygen. And even then, the oxygen tanks
- 35:48were heavy and could only supplement what their bodies
- 35:51desperately needed. The mountain has always demanded
- 35:54something from people who climb it.
- 35:56Sometimes it demands everything, and one of Everest's oldest
- 36:00mysteries begins with two men who disappeared near the summit
- 36:03in 19240. I have the answer to that one.
- 36:06They died. We'll see.
- 36:11Their names were George Mallory and Andrew Irvine.
- 36:15He's actually the he named Irvine Irvine.
- 36:19Yeah, no. Mallory was already famous in
- 36:23the climbing world. He had attempted Everest twice
- 36:25before and had become obsessed with the possibility of becoming
- 36:29the first human being to stand on its summit.
- 36:32Weird goal, but OK. I think at that point when you
- 36:34were so close to success and tasting victory.
- 36:38You see how this is so many decades, centuries in the future
- 36:41where I mentioned that no one really wanted to put their name
- 36:44on things. This guy wants to put his name
- 36:46on a mountain. He wants to be the first in
- 36:481924. Greed kills.
- 36:52Sometimes it does. Or freeze.
- 36:57We're somebody. But in 1924, no one had done it.
- 37:02Everest was still largely unknown territory to Western
- 37:05climbers. There were no modern weather
- 37:07forecasts, no satellite communication, lightweight
- 37:10equipment, or high tech climbing suits.
- 37:13Mallory and Irvine were climbing into one of the most hostile
- 37:16environments on Earth, wearing equipment that would look
- 37:19primitive compared to what modern Everest climbers use
- 37:22today. You mean to tell me they were
- 37:24just winging it? Yeah, well, not winging it.
- 37:29They were, they were professional climbers for that
- 37:30time, but they're everything that they were using.
- 37:33Their tech, their oxygen, their gear was just not, I guess you
- 37:37could say, as high quality as it would be today.
- 37:39Well, of course not. It's been 100 years.
- 37:41But you said they don't know the weather, and you mentioned
- 37:43there's a very small window where you can do it.
- 37:45Did they know this? Oh, you're stressed?
- 37:47Pioneers. Pioneers for someone has to do
- 37:50it Someone. Has to do it.
- 37:50You're so right. On June 8th, 1924, happy pride
- 37:55Mallory and Irvine made their way.
- 37:57The whole I'm starting the fan fiction, sorry.
- 38:00Made their way to into each. Other found love on Mount
- 38:02Everest. Mallory and Irvine made their
- 38:05final attempt for the summit. A fellow climber named Noel
- 38:09Odell was lower on the mountain when he looked upward and saw
- 38:12two tiny figures moving along the Ridge.
- 38:14He later described seeing them moving towards what appeared to
- 38:17be one of the final obstacles before the summit.
- 38:20And then the clouds came in. No.
- 38:23The two men disappeared. They were so close.
- 38:25That was the last confirmed sighting of George Mallory and
- 38:28Andrew Irvine alive. No radio call came back, and
- 38:32rescue teams were unsuccessful locating them.
- 38:34No one knew whether they had turned around or possibly
- 38:37fallen. And for decades, one question
- 38:39haunted the climbing world. Did they actually make it?
- 38:44Oh, is this a movie? I need to find out if this is a
- 38:46movie. I'd never checked.
- 38:48I should have checked that. This movie would make me cry.
- 38:51If Mallory and Irvine somehow reached the summit before they
- 38:54died, they would have beaten Edmund Hillary and Tenzing
- 38:57Norgay by nearly 30 years. Wow, that's a long time.
- 39:01Yeah, For 75 years, Everest kept that answer buried.
- 39:05Then, in 1999, a group of climbers and researchers went
- 39:10looking for them. The expedition was led by people
- 39:13including German Mountaineer and Everest historian Jochen Hemleb,
- 39:17whose work would later be documented in Ghosts of Everest,
- 39:20The Search for Mallory and Irvine.
- 39:22Oh my God, that sounds like either a movie, documentary or a
- 39:25book. The expedition knew they were
- 39:27searching for something almost impossible.
- 39:29Everest is enormous. Its slopes are covered in snow,
- 39:33ice, rock crevasses and avalanche debris.
- 39:37Crevasses. Crevasses, crevasses crevices.
- 39:40I just bet it's just funnier. To say fancy.
- 39:42Crevasses. A body loss on the mountain in
- 39:451924 could have been buried forever.
- 39:48But then one of the researchers spotted something and guess,
- 39:53Brian, guess what it was. It was.
- 39:56The bodies. Wrong.
- 39:58What? It was a body.
- 40:01One. Yeah.
- 40:02At first they didn't know what it was or who it was.
- 40:05The body was lying face down on the mountain.
- 40:07The cold had preserved it. And when they turned it over, it
- 40:10was George Mallory. No, not George.
- 40:12Oh, George, my George. Not not that George, but George
- 40:17Mallory. For 75 years, his final resting
- 40:20place had been hidden on the side of Everest, and suddenly
- 40:24there he was, still wearing pieces of his climbing clothing,
- 40:28still carrying items from the expedition.
- 40:30His body had been frozen into the mountain for nearly 3/4 of a
- 40:33century. That's more than 1/4 of a
- 40:37century, Brian. That's like 3.
- 40:39That's like 3/4 of a century. I'm going to cry, Jerry.
- 40:43The discovery was one of the most extraordinary moments in
- 40:46mountaineering history, but it also raised even more questions.
- 40:50Mallory had injuries consistent with a terrible fall.
- 40:53No, a rope was wrapped around his waist, his leg was badly
- 40:57broken. Something had happened to him
- 40:59high on the mountain, and whatever happened had been
- 41:02violent enough to send him tumbling down the slope.
- 41:05One of the biggest mysteries remained Where was Andrew
- 41:07Irvine? Oh, his lover.
- 41:10I'm just kidding. I don't know if my lover is in
- 41:12my head. Can.
- 41:13And they are. And perhaps even more
- 41:15importantly, which is kind of fucked up, where was the camera?
- 41:19Mallory and Irvine had carried a camera with them during the
- 41:21summit attempt, researchers hoped.
- 41:24Oh my God. That if it could be found and
- 41:27the film somehow survived, it won't, it might finally answer
- 41:29the question that had haunted Everest for decades.
- 41:32No, no, no it won't. Mallory's body couldn't tell
- 41:35them, Irvine's body was never found, and the camera never
- 41:40recovered. So somewhere on Everest, the
- 41:42answer may still be lying beneath the snow.
- 41:44I'd say that's pretty bone chilling.
- 41:46Oh my God, had me on the verge of tears and then hit me with
- 41:50that. It's just like Steel Magnolias.
- 41:52Hits you with a cold slap in the face.
- 41:56Hitter, hitter, you need to watch Steel Magnolias.
- 41:59It's so funny. Everest is not dangerous just
- 42:02because people fall from it. It keeps secrets.
- 42:05It can bury someone for decades and then suddenly reveal them.
- 42:08Wow, that's blowing my mind dude.
- 42:11A storm can cover a body and then a shifting glacier can
- 42:14expose it. The mountain can literally hide
- 42:17the evidence of what happened to you.
- 42:19And that brings us forward to another group of climbers who
- 42:22discovered just how quickly Everest can go from a dream to a
- 42:25nightmare. On May 10th, 1996, it began as
- 42:30Summit Day, that last trek to the top.
- 42:33Several commercial expeditions were preparing to make their
- 42:35final push towards the top of Everest.
- 42:38Among them were teams led by two experienced guides, Rob Hall and
- 42:42Scott Fischer. These weren't random tourists
- 42:44who had somehow wandered up a mountain.
- 42:46Hall was one of the most respected commercial guides in
- 42:49the Everest business. His company, Adventure
- 42:51Consultants, had successfully guided climbers to the summit
- 42:55before. Scott Fischer was also highly
- 42:57experienced. His company, Mounted Madness,
- 43:01had built a reputation for taking clients into extreme
- 43:04environments. These were people who knew
- 43:06Everest, but knowing Everest and surviving Everest are two very
- 43:10different things. Were these guys competing with
- 43:12each other like competing businesses or did you say they
- 43:14grouped? Up.
- 43:14Yeah, they grouped up. These were like, we're tackling
- 43:16this together, We're going together.
- 43:18The climbers began their ascent during the night, moving upward
- 43:21through the darkness towards the summit.
- 43:24The plan simple. Reach the summit, take your
- 43:27pictures, celebrate for a few minutes and then turn around.
- 43:31Never heard a more simple plan? Easy.
- 43:34Plan. This is our Plan 123.
- 43:36We go back. We go in, we go out.
- 43:39Wow. The beautiful thing is, the
- 43:43summit is only halfway. You still have to get back down.
- 43:48Oh my God. That's why it's the turn around
- 43:50so fast. It's like, cool, we made it to
- 43:52the top, celebrate, take your pictures and then leave.
- 43:55Because you're not done. You're still racing against time
- 43:58to get back down. Before I continue, I have to
- 44:00tell you and everyone listening that you will have to come back
- 44:04to next week's episode to listen to Part 2 because the story
- 44:08continues. I wish I had more time, but I do
- 44:10not want to take more than an hour of your day with these
- 44:14stories. But I'm excited.
- 44:16There is, I think so much more to come and like I mentioned to
- 44:21you, a little cherry on top just for everyone to to check out on
- 44:24their own time. Oh my God guys, first time in
- 44:26Amigos afraid history that we have to do a Part 2.
- 44:29So I guess Part 2 in this case is us being at the the Death
- 44:33Zone. So we still have to make that
- 44:35final trek to the summit. Metaphorically.
- 44:37Metaphorically and then back down so.
- 44:41I don't have climbing gear. We're starting our ascent Part 2
- 44:44next week. We're going to reach the top and
- 44:46then descend together. Wow.
- 44:48Jerry, that is the best story you've ever told me.
- 44:51I was on the verge of tears. I can't wait.
- 44:54Next week is going to be fun. This.
- 44:56Was my favorite topic so far. I can tell there's a there's a
- 45:00light in your eyes. It's the.
- 45:03Is it the moonlight? Oh no, you're a little too tan
- 45:06for that. I'm the goal.
- 45:07You're not blind anymore. I'm not blind anymore and I'm
- 45:10really tanned because I'm spending my time.
- 45:12Outside, lift your sleeve up. It's him.
- 45:15I've it's the Moonlight Man. I've evolved, I now have a tan
- 45:19and I'm no longer like how old tall are they?
- 45:21Like 3 feet 2 feet. You know, but it was said in one
- 45:26of the articles, they write it down.
- 45:28I'm OK. It was like 40 something inches,
- 45:32like 3 feet like. 3334 ish. OK.
- 45:34Yeah, that's short. Real petite.
- 45:36Yeah. Yeah, but I mean nice, I'm
- 45:39guessing nice beards, nice facial hair.
- 45:40Yeah, they had, they had those groomed, I'm sure.
- 45:42Yeah, I wonder if they kept them warm.
- 45:45Like if they had a beard, does that mean they're also hairy?
- 45:48You know what? They really didn't go into
- 45:50detail whether one, they were wearing clothes.
- 45:53Two, what did it look like under those clothes?
- 45:56I'm assuming it could be. We're asking the important
- 45:58questions. Here.
- 45:59Yeah. Yeah, we'll never know.
- 46:02Time flies when you're having fun, Brian, that's all I have to
- 46:04say. And I had a lot of fun this
- 46:06week. I can't wait for Mount Everest
- 46:08Part 2 part. 2:00 Grab your climbing gear.
- 46:10Grab your oxygen tanks and on we go.
- 46:14Wow, do you have a song recommendation?
- 46:16Damn, friend, no. I do.
- 46:18It's the climb by Miley Cyrus. Wow, you got it.
- 46:21Dan, we came at you guys with the mountain episode.
- 46:23Oh, so scary. I've never been so scared of a
- 46:26mountain. I'm also scared of hills and
- 46:30just staircases and anything really steep that makes my
- 46:35breathing heavy because I don't do cardio.
- 46:38He. He.
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- 47:03recommendation, the song recommendation if you're
- 47:06wondering. You're recommending a
- 47:07recommendation I'm. Recommending a music
- 47:10recommendation? Miles Davis flamenco sketches.
- 47:13Oh my. God, Miles Davis, Miley Cyrus.
- 47:16Whoa. It's like bling.
- 47:18It's like we knew. It's like we knew what we're
- 47:19going to say beforehand. Yeah, I, I watched, I did watch
- 47:232 movies over the weekend and I forgot to mention that as a
- 47:25beginning, but one of them was we rewatched, rewatched La La
- 47:29Land and it's, of course it's a jazz movie.
- 47:32So I was like, wow, I haven't seen this movie in 10 years.
- 47:35It's that old, the lat 2016 I. Thought it was newer, I've only
- 47:38seen the first like 5 minutes. Lucy and I watched that movie in
- 47:40theaters when it came out. Wow, the story.
- 47:42Dating. Yeah, we were dating and she was
- 47:44like, like, we're going to go watch this movie.
- 47:46And I was like, what's it called?
- 47:48And she's like La La Land. I'm like, what is it?
- 47:51And she's like, do you want to know?
- 47:52Or going blind? And I was like, that's that's
- 47:54really good. I'm like, I have to impress her.
- 47:56I'm going in blind. Wow.
- 47:57And that was like one of my first, like, Ryan Gosling movies
- 48:02where I was like, damn, Ryan Gosling.
- 48:04That's the man. Wow.
- 48:06Yeah. And Emma Stone was great also.
- 48:08But but Ryan Gosling. But Ryan Gosling, man.
- 48:11Interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 48:13So that's where I'm like, cool, I want to wear all of his suits
- 48:15that he wears in that movie. Yeah, yeah.
- 48:19What were you thinking? About I thought you were just
- 48:21coming to terms of something. What other movie did you watch?
- 48:24The other one is much more Jerry.
- 48:26It's a Tenacious D in the pick of Destiny, Jack Black and Kyle.
- 48:31Yeah, it was coming back to me and like, I've I've heard that.
- 48:33Yeah, it's it's just, it's great.
- 48:35I watch 10 out of 10. As I mentioned, Steel Magnolias
- 48:39also 10 out of 10, I would love to watch it again.
- 48:41I want to watch it with you just to witness it.
- 48:44Summer has come and gone. We did not watch Brokeback
- 48:46Mountain, nor did we watch. What's your les mis?
- 48:50Les Mis, we are not men of our word, so maybe we won't be back
- 48:54next week, but we will. We will.
- 48:56For you we will. Yes, I can't wait.
- 48:58I wish it was next Thursday already.
- 49:01For Part 2. Yeah, Until then though, have a
- 49:03great week, guys. Visit us on TikTok, on
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- 49:08amigosafraid.com. If you have a story you'd like
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- 49:15And that is all for me. This has been amigos.
- 49:19Say say the next line. Afraid.
- 49:24Afraid. Let's try that again.
- 49:30I'm Brian. I'm leaving.
- 49:33Bye bye.