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25W: Steve Young on a Former Player Baptizing Teammates, The Coach Who Didn't Want Him & Musical Mt. Rushmore · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: This is a podcast called twenty five Whist.
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  Speaker 2: He was talking to Fall and they are whizz So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's too bad, but what did you expect.
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  Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five Whist.
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  Speaker 3: Souls Twyne, what's up? Everybody? Welcome to the show where
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  Speaker 3: this one's gonna be cool because it's us with Steve
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  Speaker 3: Young for an hour NFL Hall of Fame quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Super nice guy. I met him, I guess a year
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  Speaker 3: and a half maybe more than that now, met him
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  Speaker 3: on a golf course and was nervous to go talk
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  Speaker 3: to him and then want to talk to him and
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  Speaker 3: he was like, oh, listen to your show and I
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: was like, yo, whatever, and then he like quoted back
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  Speaker 3: a couple of segments and I was like, dang, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Then I was talking about him on the show one
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  Speaker 3: day a year later as like one of the top
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  Speaker 3: five coolest people I've ever met. He happened to be listening.
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  Speaker 3: He texted me and I was like, how'd you get
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  Speaker 3: my number? And he was like, I called the golf
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  Speaker 3: course and I was like that's cool. So then we
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  Speaker 3: went to Oregon, and since we were a west already,
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: I was like, Hey, we're going to be out there.
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  Speaker 3: Will you be around and he said, yeah, come on.
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  Speaker 3: So we went to his office and he was in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of working with us, and then he was
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  Speaker 3: going to do like a maybe like a Dallas Cowboys
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  Speaker 3: documentary on the championships they won. But we had We
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  Speaker 3: flew into Polo Alto and we're with him for an hour.
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  Speaker 3: Longer than that. He signed my football card. It was
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  Speaker 3: a whole thing. It was super awesome. So we're just
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  Speaker 3: going to play the interview as is because it's it's
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  Speaker 3: an hour, right guys, close close, yeah, close to an hour.
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  Speaker 3: So here he is, I'll shut up. Here is one
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  Speaker 3: of the greats of all time left handed. I say
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  Speaker 3: that because him and Boomerasison were the only two left
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  Speaker 3: handed quarterback, because I would ever watch and be like, dang,
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  Speaker 3: that's why I'm a quarterback. But then I wasn't after
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  Speaker 3: like fourth grade. All right, here he is Steve Young. First,
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to explain how I ended up here. I
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  Speaker 3: was playing a golf tournament I was invited to. It
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  Speaker 3: was it was super cool.
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  Speaker 2: I was h end but high end golf, but I
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  Speaker 2: was excited to just be invited elite golf tournament and me.
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  Speaker 3: And so there's like seven people on a green and
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  Speaker 3: I see somebody holding court and all the people are
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  Speaker 3: like laughing, ha ha haa. This guy's holding court and
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  Speaker 3: there's like a little crease and I see it's Steve
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  Speaker 3: Young in the crease and everybody is listening to every word,
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  Speaker 3: every breath he's saying. And I'm like, I love Steve Young.
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  Speaker 3: I'm left handed. When I was a kid, I would
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  Speaker 3: watch you play and think this is the roots.
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  Speaker 2: I'm leaning closer now, yeah, this is the root because
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  Speaker 2: it's very rare.
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  Speaker 3: I was a left handed quarterback rare, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: Steve Young, if he can do it, I realize that.
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  Speaker 3: So I walk up and I get into the crowd
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  Speaker 3: of people and they're all laughing. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: you're saying, but I'm like, everybody fades away, and I say, hello,
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  Speaker 3: mister Steve Young. My name is Bobby. I just want
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  Speaker 3: to say I'm a big fan. And then I started
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  Speaker 3: to walk away and you said I know who you are,
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  Speaker 3: and my life changed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, because strangely, my two girls are in high
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  Speaker 2: school that were still at that point where like eighth
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: and tenth grade, so I was driving them everywhere, and
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: every morning I'm carpool and by Bones Joe and they
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: they love country music and I always loved it kind
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  Speaker 2: of quietly, but then when my kids, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is amazing, and so listen to you every morning,
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  Speaker 2: and so I wanted. I went home and I.
• 3:15
  Speaker 4: Said, girls, guess who I met Bobby Bones? And then
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  Speaker 4: it was and then I think you mentioned me somewhere
• 3:24
  Speaker 4: randomly on the show. Randomly we were driving and it's like,
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  Speaker 4: my girls are like, he just said your name.
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  Speaker 2: So it works in a strange circle. But finish the
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  Speaker 2: story though, to really like people need to know this.
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  Speaker 2: So it's an elite kind of golf invite to go
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  Speaker 2: to the AT and T and Bobby was there and
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  Speaker 2: it was all set to go, and it was like
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  Speaker 2: you play Thursday and Friday and you make the cut
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  Speaker 2: or not whatever. So it's Wednesday. This is when we
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  Speaker 2: met on Wednesday, and like I go Thursday to kind
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  Speaker 2: of tell him. I told him I remember, you know
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  Speaker 2: something I remembered the show. And he's gone like he
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  Speaker 2: big time that I had to work. No no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: no no. The Grammy's called and it's like, oh, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: elite people I'm out of here. I've never seen that
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  Speaker 2: done by anybody who's ever been via the eighteen in
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  Speaker 2: my life ever that you just show up and it's
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  Speaker 2: like see you, and like even people who have been
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  Speaker 2: like presidential campaign, but nobody says see you to the
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  Speaker 2: aten T except for the great body see you.
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  Speaker 3: So then what happens is we're talking about Like for me,
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  Speaker 3: it was like the fight.
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  Speaker 2: He's trying to back, don't let him go. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I see Steve from your perspective, he did big time
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  Speaker 2: the at and T PLA.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, and I want to sid it to everybody
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  Speaker 3: at A D and T and Pebble Beach and every
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: pebble and every beach. But what really had love you all?
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  Speaker 3: He had to go work, so regardless, I'm on the air.
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  Speaker 3: And the question was because I have a job much
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  Speaker 3: like yours. Well, we've been able to meet a lot
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  Speaker 3: of cool people, a lot of famous people, and that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't always mix. Some famous people are cool, some aren't.
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  Speaker 3: Some cool people are famous, some are and they're like,
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  Speaker 3: who are like the coolest famous people you met? And
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  Speaker 3: I had listed I loved County Crows, Adam Durret's cool.
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  Speaker 3: I went through the list of my top five, and
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  Speaker 3: you were my top five.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that. My kids thought I honestly, they
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  Speaker 2: don't know what I did before, and they think I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of like boring and like and when you said
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  Speaker 2: my name is the top five, my kids like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Dad, well that's very nice.
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  Speaker 2: So Bobby, thank you for putting me on the pedestal
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  Speaker 2: at home, I get.
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  Speaker 3: And then I get a text him an unknown number,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, my stalker's back thinking, and it
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  Speaker 3: was and it was Steve. And the first thing he
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  Speaker 3: says is, I remember the bit I was talking about,
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  Speaker 3: how did you get my number? I'm glad you did,
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  Speaker 3: but that feels like you.
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  Speaker 2: I think you gave it to me that brief moment.
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  Speaker 3: No chance, because I would never afford I would never
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  Speaker 3: have said I think you would want my number. There's
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  Speaker 3: no chance. I would have been too insecure to even
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  Speaker 3: offer my number.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's a really good point. When you said my
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  Speaker 2: name top five, and I said, okay, I've got to
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: reach out to him, it's like anybody with I might
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  Speaker 2: have gotten to Steve Johnathan out of Beach. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's what I did.
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  Speaker 3: Who I did, not big time. I love Steve John
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  Speaker 3: out heroic to me, and that's how we're are here.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to start though, because I have taken
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  Speaker 3: a crash course and Forever Young, which is your I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate that your charity, and there are a couple of
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  Speaker 3: things that I would like to talk about. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: I know your wife, Barb and the music component of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did that. Yes, this weekend Monday, we opened
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  Speaker 2: up our ninth one renowned children's hospital and a reno.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a it's music. Would you explain music therapy?
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  Speaker 2: Therapy is crazy, Like, I'm not a musician. I only
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  Speaker 2: dream I would if you guys could. I wish I
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  Speaker 2: could help the regime regime, so I wish I could
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  Speaker 2: do anything. If I could sing, I would give up everything.
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  Speaker 2: I would give up all. But I love as everyone does,
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  Speaker 2: they love music. My wife, when she was in college,
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  Speaker 2: a friend of hers who gotten a terrible car accident,
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  Speaker 2: terrible brain injury. She did the research, which is my
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  Speaker 2: wife's way to kind of like and she figured out
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  Speaker 2: that there's this thing called music music therapy. And she
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  Speaker 2: went and played bon Jovi because I was her favorite band.
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  Speaker 2: Like over like this, all the time in the in
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  Speaker 2: the room, and she believed it's changed. It helped, and
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  Speaker 2: no one else is like, you know whatever, that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: make any sense. So then twenty years later, a dear
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  Speaker 2: friend of ours that I grew up with, daughter who
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  Speaker 2: was seventeen a musician and she was down in La
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  Speaker 2: recording she was going to be a star. She passed
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  Speaker 2: away like out of like this, on a hike at
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  Speaker 2: a girls camp. And so it was a year anniversary
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  Speaker 2: of that tragedy that Barb's like, wait a second, we
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  Speaker 2: need to honor her because she had done to the
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  Speaker 2: children's She would got to the children's hospital nearby and
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  Speaker 2: play for the kids. As a seventh year old, you
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  Speaker 2: know like this, I want to help, I want to
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  Speaker 2: do things. So we started Sophie's Place, the name of
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  Speaker 2: Sophie for music therapy, and at the time, in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and six, music therapy in hospitals was starting. They
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  Speaker 2: used to have a heart and the music therapists would
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  Speaker 2: go around a room to room and it's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we need a space. And so we went to the
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  Speaker 2: hospital and said, look, we'll we'll build the space and
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: what's funded with the music therapists music therapy is crazy
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  Speaker 2: because music is the only thing that crosses over the
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  Speaker 2: both sides of the brain. Language doesn't do that, and
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  Speaker 2: so the music is ends up to be a scientific medicine,
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  Speaker 2: like there's specific things that you can do in motion
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  Speaker 2: for beating a drum or pain or because pain and
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  Speaker 2: music travel the same places and so if there's music,
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  Speaker 2: it can't be as much pain. And so there's all that.
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  Speaker 2: There's hundreds of prescriptions written every day by doctors for
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  Speaker 2: the music therapists for specific things for medicine for the
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  Speaker 2: healing of kids in Schildn's Hospital. So that's that's that,
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  Speaker 2: and I wish I was a musician. We had Dan
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  Speaker 2: Reynolds came and the Imagine Dragons, we had Chester Bennington
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  Speaker 2: take a park Lincoln Park before. We've had a number
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  Speaker 2: of people come through and play for the kids, and
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  Speaker 2: so I encourage it. Page idiots pick up Trulln's Hospital.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go, Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: So I used to be on the board of a
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  Speaker 3: similar group called Musicians on Call and we would go
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  Speaker 3: and especially with older like eighties and nineties who were
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  Speaker 3: in the hospital, and it was there we would learn
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  Speaker 3: songs from when they were young and it would be
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  Speaker 3: the only time that you would see them light up
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  Speaker 3: like there would be and because if they didn't remember
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: whatever they didn't remember, what they would remember is how
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  Speaker 3: they felt when that music was played when they were
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  Speaker 3: a kid, and it was like to see it even briefly.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not we know that music has that effect,
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: but I think I just want to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: people understand that there's a science to the specific things
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  Speaker 2: that music, like brain injuries. They can't get kids to
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: move their arms, but if they can beat a drum
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: for some reason, so they beat a drum and they
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  Speaker 2: use that as they beat the drum to reteach them
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: how to eat. And so there's just music has this
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: strange power over and Chester Bennington's the one that told me.
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  Speaker 2: He says they haven't figured out where where uh music
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  Speaker 2: starts in the brain. And he says that's because that's
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: where God sits and no one will actually find it.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: So I said, I remember chester Ton.
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: I went and looked up the charity on the there's
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: a website and goes, you have a charity is legit?
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: You guys got one hundred percent. I was worried. Honestly,
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man, do I ever want to
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: go look at this and I wait, could be scaled,
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: and I will say it with full authority. It is
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: not all the stars.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: That was yeah, so uh charity navigator, we're one of
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: the ones. Thank goodness. No, we're we're a little we're
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: a little group. We're not big. We we peck away
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: every year. We trade in all this memorabilia for our
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: golf tournaments to raise the money. And uh, we just
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: we find like minded people and do our little our
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: garden in our little corner of the world and try
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: to do something good.
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: Let's talk sports a little bit. Oh, I want to
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: show you because this to me. Let me sit in
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: my pocket.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: You show me your MVP trophy from last week.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: You know I couldn't. I couldn't look my pocket as
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: a belt. It was a really nice belt. I couldn't
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: travel with it. But ipen to open these. But these
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: are cards from like nineteen ninety These are pro Line.
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: These are the weirdest.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, these.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: Are the weirdest cards I've ever seen.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: These are the ones because.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: Some guys have that don't have their shirt on. I
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: wanted to roll through some of these cards. Your card
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: actually wasn't that weird. I put this in. Do you
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: remember this? Do you remember this picture?
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: I do, But that's amazing that there's someone with those.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: It's odd. So what I wanted to do was roll
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: through some of these cards that I have not opened yet.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: This is magic trick.
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: I wish that'd be cool. You can't open it here?
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Do want me to do it?
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to rip it. Here we go.
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: And if I pull up a player that you remember, yeah,
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: and if you have a story about that player.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: I would like to hear it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a lot of stories I can't tell.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: Well, then don't tell those or tell that will pay
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: the micro right you'll Okay, let's start with Bobby. He
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: already k know who it was, Bobby Brister.
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  Speaker 2: So some people like, it's what's fun the league? The
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: NFL is full of just characters right from everywhere. And
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: if I remember, Bobby was like not Cajun like, uh,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Bobby a Bear, because Bobby a Bear played for the Saints.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: When you met Bobby Aber, he's like he would speak English,
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: but Cajun English. And I'd be like, hey, bro, I
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: don't know you do I don't know and so then
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, you're in the Superdome and seventy thousand,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: eighty thousand people are screaming, and you're in the huddle,
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: and Bobby Aber's gone to play. I'd be like, bro
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: because this every else speak caging. No, no, they don't.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: So there's all these good and Bubby Brister is that
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: kind of a character. He's My memory is that he
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: was from the South, and uh, he was a country like.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: I can see Bubby growing up in a place where
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: you know, all the songs are with the dirt road
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: and the fish and uh, you know, and you know
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: all the great lyrics. I'm just screwing up right now.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: But uh, and that's what Bubby's a Bubby is a
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: country dude.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: Do you recognize that guy? This would be a guy
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: Pierce Hold. Do you play with it?
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  Speaker 2: The pier hold. That's the most serious thing I've ever
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: seen a Pierce Hold. Oh my gosh. Look he's looking
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: up in the distance like weird like look of George
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Washington cross into Delaware. Yes, you're looking for something really important.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: He never he never found anything important. I can promise
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: you that here's a good dude. But that's the other
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: thing about guys in the NFL is that these good
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: dudes that are like really kind hearted. Pierce is a
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: kind hearted guy, very soft spoken, but was like massive,
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  Speaker 2: Like if you walked in the room, you're like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: whoa stay there? And he was so big and strong,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: and then you go play and you're like, holy crap.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: There is like two sides to people. Are there two
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: sides to you? Do you have a side that if
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: it's time to go, like turn it like it's time I'm.
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  Speaker 3: On the quarterback and podcast now, thanks for asking, Steve.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but is it because Pierce had two sides?
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: He was most of the time kind, peaceful, and then
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: you go play, You're like that dude is different.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: I think and you probably have a version of this
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  Speaker 3: as well. For me, I'm on all the time if
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: I am performing on stage, doing a radio show or
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: a TV show. But when I'm not on, I'm off,
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  Speaker 3: meaning I'm very quiet. I'm a wallflower. I don't have
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: much to say because all I do is say and
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: I know you have opinions.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise otherwise you could be you all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I would have no no energy, no.
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  Speaker 2: Juice, no, it was just it would be I get that.
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  Speaker 2: I get that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would say that would be like off
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  Speaker 3: and or on.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: I mean no, I'm kind of mean, you're always all
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: the time. No, I'm on. I mean, well, when Bobby's talking,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: because when we're on Steve he's always talking, I know,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: so he just let him talk. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Here, and you don't have to comment on this guy.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: But see he has no shirt on in this picture.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at that.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: These are like little bellies. Yeah, they're like glamour shots.
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  Speaker 2: Who is that? Oh? Greg Town's okay, how about you're
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: a coach. Here there's another George Washington crossing the Delaware.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: That's he's the he's the Cajun coach, right, Jim Mora. Yeah,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Saints playoffs? You know that's right? Right?
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do one more? Did you have another one atdie?
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: See Matt Millan in there also? Wait Matt Millon. Ye,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: good friend of mine played for the Raiders for a
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: long time, joined the forty nine ers, and uh, he
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: would have us. Partner was we were roommates. So we
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: hung together and Matt would invite us because we're single,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: for dinner for the family and he'd say, look six
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: fifteen and so. But don't don't come later early, just
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: be there six fifteen. So we would kind of wait
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: around the corner until six fifteen because we didn't want
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: to mess up. So we pulled in and then he'd
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: open the door and he'd be in his underwear and
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: he'd be like, yeah, come in, and the kids would
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: be all around the table and we go in and
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: eat eight and he's like eat, you know, and so
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: we would eat and then he would like we'd finish.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: He's like, okay, now leave, so we would leave and
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: it was the greatest It was the greatest invite you
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: could ever have to come to somebody's house because you
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: don't have to say anything. You just got to be
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: on time. You don't look at the underwear, and just
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: go in and eat and eat and leave, like literally
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: encouraged to leave as fast as you can. And we'd
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: be full. Pat would make tremendous food and we'd walk
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: out like it's amazing, Like this is the greatest thing ever.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: And the first time I ever met Matt Mellon, he
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: was playing for the Raiders linebacker and I was a
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: rookie and I was in the league, like you know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm playing the Raiders and and I'm you know,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: you can imagine like you break the huddle and you're
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: like and Matt Mellon's like alert alert alert, Mormon in
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: the backfield, Moreman in the backfield, alert alert, look around?
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: What does he talk about? I I that threw me
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: for a long time and that and I have laughed
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: about that forever. But he was the kind of guy
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: that would do stupid stuff like that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: When you when you leave BYU and you go to
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: the USFL, you put a year there? What was that even?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, so it was amazing. It was like the
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: NFL has been around forever, this upstart league. Young most
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: of us were twenty one, twenty two years old. We
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: were living in la We were being coached by John
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Hadl who was famous kind of a quarterback back in
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the day. And Sid Gilman, one of the he was
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: old at that time, but he was the godfather of
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the forward passing like it was amazing. And I had
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Gary Zimmerman who ended up being an Oregon where you
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: guys just just were he was ended up being a
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player. We had Jojo Townsell. We had
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: all these young players. That was a lot of fun.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: We We had a great time, and the league was
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: legit football.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: It was why why why did you go to the USFL?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Though? Because I could play right away and I was
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: gonna be drafted number one by the Bengals, and I
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: didn't This sounds a little weird, but I didn't know
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: anyone Cincinnati. You knew the people in LA. You know
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: what I mean. There's when you're young, you're like the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: familiarity and uh, and playing like I didn't want to
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: sit and watch and I wanted to go play, and uh,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: sitting at you makes you talk like you. Did you
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: notice that? I don't know if I did.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm talking like you. So I think
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: there's some hybrid of conversation here where it's very weird.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: We had we had talked to another player, peak quarterback
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: USC and he was drafting the top five same thing.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Went to Cincinnati and was like, I don't know what's
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: going on. Oh yeah, he never watched on TV. They
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: He was like, I don't know what happens in Cincinnati, right.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like when you're a kid, there's all kind
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: of weird things are going through your head, and well,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: things that do you think matter, don't matter. All of
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a sudden, you're you know, you're getting paid to play
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: a game, Like if like I played football in high
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: school and now I'm getting paid to do it, it's weird.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: And then everyone else that's paid for it, and then
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: it's like then you see the older guys who are like,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: this is my career, this is how I feed my family,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: and like I'm going to kill you. You're like, oh,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: that's a whole different thing. Like the NFL beats. It
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: runs people out and you if you are not careful
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and you don't really love it and you're not willing
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: to kind of battle back. You've seen famous like high
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: draft picks come into the league and then three or
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: four years they just disappear because they just it's not
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: their passion, it's they they're really good at it. They're amazing.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: They're the best athletes in their town and they're county
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and their state at college, best athletes anyone ever seen.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So you keep doing it and then finally the pro
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: game forces you to say, do I love this? And
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of times like I don't. And that's what happens.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Did you realize in your first year with the USFL
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: that you probably weren't going to be there the next year.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: No, I believed it was a league that was going
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: to stick around. It was in now, and they might
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: have had to pair back, you know, there's some financial
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: things that would be careful. But it was done. It
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: was it was cooked, and then they wanted to go
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: to the fall and go up against the NFL and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: into the ground. It was too bad because the football
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I played for the La Express was better than the
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: football that was in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: joined the next year, And so it's too bad. It
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: should be still here, should be played in the spring,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: and they're still trying that. It's been thirty years later,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: they're still trying to do what they had at the moment,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: and it just didn't work out.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: When you go to Tampa, did you have expectation is
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: playing immediately? What was and do they redraft?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: How did you end up a stay when all of
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: us that you know, Herschel Walker and Reggie White and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Gary Zimmerman and all these guys, we all left undrafted
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: essentially because we went to the USFL. The league didn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: want to allow that, like, hey, wait a second, because
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: we all thought let's go to the USFL. Let's play
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: some ball and if something happens, we'll come back as
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: free agents and we'll pick a team. And the league's like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: we're and so about a year in they said they
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: made a deal with the Players Association, which I'm still
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: pissed out about the Players Association allowing that, because you
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: think they would protect us. But they had what they
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: called a supplemental draft, and that's when I was number
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: one to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: How did you feel about going to Tampa? Not like
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, there wasn't a lot of success there.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I I'm you know, I'm not somebody that's going to go, oh,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I can only play here or there. I need this
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: or that. I was like, let's go. It was hard.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: There were some bad boys down there. James Wilder was
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a running back. He's the toughest human being I ever met.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: There were some good players down there. It was just
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a bad situation. It was you ever been. It's like
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: any organization when when you know there's no accountability and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: all those there's this mitigation and point you're, oh, I
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: would have been great if for you, and you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and that feeds on itself and pretty soon everyone's was
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: springing the corner and coach oh terrible and everyone's and
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: you can't get out of it. It's like you can't.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And then there's fight, you know, a fight in the
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: locker room. I remember the first time I went in
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the locker room in Tampa at the halftime. I go
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: into halftime and you're waiting for like tips from the coach,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you know, like, and half the team's like smoking, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't. You can't smoke in the NFL.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: You can't.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: What is this? I never forgot that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Man, How did you negotiate the trade to San Francisco?
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Then did you let them know you wanted to go?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So we were so bad that I played one full year.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: We were so bad that we were going to have
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: the first draft choice again, and they got a new coach,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Ray Perkins. And Ray Perkins shows up and says to me,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: see one thing, I want you to know. I hate
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: scramblers and I hate lefties. And I'm like that is
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: bad and uh. And they had a number one choice,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: so they took Vinie Ti Saverni and I was like, okay,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: we got to get rid of him. So they treated
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: me the Saint Louis Cardinals. It was equally bad. And
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I had made a relationship with the owner, Hugh colver
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: House Like no one talked to mister colver Osse, but
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I saw him and he's like over in the corner.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll go talk to him like you would.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And so we made a real and that relationship was
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: one where you know, he said, Steve, I really love
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: your style. I love what you're doing, and I want
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: you to be my quarterback for life. I remember telling
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: me that. So then when Ray Perkins said, bro, you're
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: out I and you're traded to the Saint Louis Cardinals.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I called mister Culversse. I said, mister culvers you told
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: me I was a quarterback for life. And he goes, oh,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I know, Steve. You know he's had a Southern draw.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: You know I love you and I bet the new
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: coach and I don't know. And I go, well, you
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: can't send me this like you gotta let me go
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: somewhere I can thrive. He goes, oh, let me think
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: about it, and he goes he calls me back. He says,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I cancel that trade, and now you have a week.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I want you to find a place that you like that?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Who would That's unheard of in sports? Right, And and
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Ray Perkins was pissed, and he was like like because
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: he had they had a number of draft toy they
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: got a number on Draft Show, whatever they got from him,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and he was dumping He couldn't wait to dump me around.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: So then they nixed that. And I that's when Bill
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Wats called and said that Joe Montana's had his second
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: back surgery. I think you're amazing. I was like, that's amazing, great,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and uh, that's how that happened. How was the Joe
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Montana situ? Come on, you want to spend up five minute?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It was awkward. It was always awkward and Joe, if
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Joe walked in right now, he'd we will be like hey,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: because we didn't. I would tell you that we never fought,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: We never had a crossword, never supported each other in
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the ways that we had. The job was the job, right,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: played golf together, laughed with Steve Bono and all the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: guy like. But it was always awkward because in his mind,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I was brought in to take his job, and in
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: my mind, I was brought in because he was hurt
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and I didn't want to sit and watch. I wouldn't
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: have if he was gonna go be MVP when Super Bowls,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, I love watching him, but I'm gonna
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: go play somewhere. So the whole thing was just and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Bill Walsh was the one was like, oh, it'll work out,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you know, it'll be fine, And we both hated him
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: for it, but loved him because we and I would
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: say this at the end of the day, it got.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: It got the most out of both of us being together.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: And I watched him play football that is like most
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: amazing football I've ever seen, and then I hopefully played
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: football that it was the most. It was the best
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I could ever be, you know. And so in that
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: way it was it sucked and it was great and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: it was awkward. And they eighteen someone did a commercial
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: recently that we did with Bo Jackson comeing to Bo's
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: house for the Super for the big game and and uh,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I'm there, and and Joe walks in and Bo says, oh, Joe,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: good good, that's great. You came, Steve, It's okay, right,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And then I.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Said I'm okay, of course, And then there's this awkward
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: interchange where we try to high five and miss and
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: then finally we do this kind of claw shake, you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: and it's like awkward.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Then it's like perfectly, you know, exemplified what what the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: relationship was like.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Did you feel like you were a bit ahead of
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: your time in the NFL then because you ran.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: A thousand percent, I was well, I got kicked out
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: of Tampa because I was weird and my game was
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: not the game. I believe that my game was the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: best game you could have when you have lots of options,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: you don't have to sit there and wait. I always
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: thought that Tom Brady and Peyton Manny and Dan Marino
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: were like super gods because they had to just stand
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: there and they were amazing. That's like I would never
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: want to do that job. But now, twenty years later,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: because of rule changes, the game is so wide open
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: you have to run. All the first round draft choices
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: for quarterbacks are all guys that can move around and run,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and so the game strangely is my game. It's like
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: the game that I like. I watch it, I'm like.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, the love, the love is there, let me please
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: let me in, you know, And I keep working out
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and trying to throw in the backyard just in case
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: like you never know, like if thirty two guys got sick.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe I throw a couple. Because he said in that look,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: think about the game today, and Tom Brady said this,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: So it makes it true to me that the game
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: today is uh, the middle of the field is unpatrolled
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: where it used to be like a death zone, like
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: there's there's people run around free. The flats are always open.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Just if you need a completion, you just take it
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and you no one can hit you. Like it's a dream.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: It's a quarterbacks dream. Oh by the way, you get
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: paid sixty million dollars a year. It's like a dream.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Like you know. Anyway, go on, I'm not I'm not bitter.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: It's not like it's not it's not a get off
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: my lawn kind of thing. I know you're thinking, hey,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: oh man, get off my lawn. No, it's more of
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: an appreciation for the changes that have come to me
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: that make me that resonate and make me want to
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: play again.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Who did you fear on the other side of the line.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I always say, the unblocked guy, you know what I mean,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Like that's where you could really get hurt. So it's
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: like I don't care if it's you, guys, and.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: What was that up to you guys? But was it
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: up to you define who was going to be the
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: unblock guy?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It was part of partly me, and part was just
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: mistakes and you get hit from you know, and and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and that. Back then, the job was to put you
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: out of the game. That was the job. And people
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: remember the bounty and all this stuff like there's that
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: was very common. And so you had the best athletes
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: in the world, not the smartest, but the best athletes
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: in the world paid lots of money to come kill you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And so I feared anyone that wasn't blocked. But if
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you want to say who I didn't want to see,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: it was REGGI White. And did you know you were
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: old enough to remember, you know, as football card said
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Reggie White, Tennessee six six three twenty. And you guys
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: have to know that when you're a rookie, you you list,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: they give you a piece of paper card companies and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you say who you are, Steve Young b Yu six
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: two ten so forever more. If you look on the
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: card and it's going to say six to two ten,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: because I wrote it down. Now, am I six two
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: might be slightly aspirational. But you know what I mean, Like,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you write down what you feel you are, right, And
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: if I just thought about Reggie White, he wrote down
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: six six, three twenty. If you write down three twenty,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you're four hundred, you know you are. If you were
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: three twenty, you'd write down to eighty, right, do you
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: understand that? Probably? So Reggie was the biggest, most amazing
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: athlete that ever lived. I never I didn't meet Biblical
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: you know, stone throwing gargantuan you know what I mean.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't meet you know, but Reggie White
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: was if he walked in today, you'd be like, oh.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: But he was a pastor. I wasn't full of love.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: So one of the great athletes in the world because
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: he would he was loud, so when he played, he
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: would scream. So they're like, rah, you know what I mean,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Like you would so you could hear him. So you
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: like you drop back to pass and you're like, here's this.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: We put three guys on him, like Reggie the three guys.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Then he'd throw them out of the way, you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and then you'd hear him coming. You're like God, You're
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: like everyone's screaming. So then all of a sudden, he's there, right,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he's there, and he's he's on you, right.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: And the most amazing thing is he would grab me.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: He would turn over and fall backwards and let me
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: fall on top of him, and then he would hold
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: on and there was like this awkward moments, like you know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and he'd be like, Steve, how you doing. I'm like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: not so good, Reggie, not so good. You put your
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: dad's here because my dad helped him find my dadil
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: worry fell when we went to the rookie and when
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: we were seniors in college, we went to the All
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Star Game together and we got to be friends. So
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Reggie would play and he would want to catch up.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: So he would like, ah, so like intense and I
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: got he'd have you and then he'd like, hey, so, uh,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you know, how's everything going? You know? I'm like are
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: you married? You know? Like like and I'm like, Reggie,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: freaking let's just talk after right, talk later, Like let's don't.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to meet like this anymore. This is
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: not appropriate, you know. And that's Reggie. Reggie is the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: greatest athlete because he was in a You appreciate this Bobby.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: He was an emotional athlete. He could be an incredible
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: competitor and he could be an incredible friend like that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: That's hard to do. Most of the friends that I
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: played against went the other way. It was worse right,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: they were I know you you know, they just don't
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: know how to handle the the athleticism. In the emotional
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: athleticism I let. Reggie was amazing. He was a he
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: was a pastor. He took We'd go to the Pro
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Bowl in Hawaii and he would have a revival and
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: everyone was invited, and so you go down and then
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: he was like, who want to be baptized? And the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: guys were quite well, and then they'd go out to
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the ocean. He baptize all these Pro Bowls. Like that's Reggie, man,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: that's Reggie Steve.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Mid nineties, what was the team that you hated the most?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it was a love hate because the Dallas Cowboys
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: had become very quickly in the early nineties like amazing,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: like there was no weakness. They were and they've unfortunately
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: for them, they've never seen close to that since.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: But he's a massive Cowboys fan, by the way, and.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Talk about underachievement to talent for thirty years. But that team,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: that team was some bad boys, and they're doing a
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Netflix thing on it right now that it's gonna come out.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I'm actually in an interviewing for it. That's why I
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: have to go anyway, The Cowboys were we were the best,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and they were the best, and that's how I always
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: felt like that's where you found out who you were.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: So in that way, I remember when true I remember
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys coming to play the Candlestick and as you know,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: you warm up at the fifty and you go opposite
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: ways so you see each other, and I'm like, Troy, Man,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: thanks for coming. You know, I'm on this quest to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: see how good I could get, and the only way
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I can see how good I could be is to
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: play the best. And you guys are the best, so
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be amazing. I almost hugged them because
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I was in this this space where I just I
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: wanted to find out, like I wanted to like, how
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: good could I be? And I remember Troy's like freaking weirdo.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: But there was that, but that was the there was
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the hatred of it because they were so good that
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: they got in the way, like super Bowls were like
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the trophy is like oh, and then it went there.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: You know, it was like one way or another, And
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: that was super painful. I mean ninety two championship game
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: against the Cowboys that we got beat. I still throw
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: up in my mouth when I think about that game
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: like that, Like that's the people say to me, what's
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the most memorable? My most memorable thing is losing that game.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Like you'd think it would be all the good stuff,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: it was like, those were painful times.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I have final three questions. Let's go with which Super
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Bowl was the sweetest?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Well, the one I started in was number one for sure,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: because I felt like I dragged myself there over the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: many years and the awkwardness and this strangeness, and there
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: was a the goal for nineteen ninety one broke out
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: in the Middle East and and uh it was October
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: and I was replacing Joe and it was it was
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: it was awkward for the whole Bay area, right. It
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: was just odd and different and strange and everyone was struggling.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: And the headline was the goal was above the fold
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: in the San Francis Carnal. You can go look at
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: them at microfiche. Uh. The goal for it's Steve Young's
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: fault because it was funny they thought would be funny,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: like it was the funny thing, except that was it
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: was me, Like it wasn't funny to me. Uh And
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: so yeah, there was. There were great times and hard
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: times and it was amazing.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Did you have time after you finished playing football where
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: you had to kind of re discover who you were
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: because you had played you had been football your whole life?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Or were you pretty balance? I mean what you got?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: What a lot of green? I was? I mean I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: was you were totally imbalanced because you had to give
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: pour yourself into something to be great or good or great,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: and you had to do it every day all day,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: like that's all you did. And that way balance is
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: really hard to find. And I think that retiring was
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: like amazing in some ways because you could now recognize
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: that there's like wonderful things in your life that you
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: didn't they couldn't find a way in before.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: And did I struggle at all?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Or h I think I think anyone who has a
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: dream that actually comes true and they can actually perform,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: like you know, your but jobs that quit at young ages,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: like you know, even acting, I think sometimes you can
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: go long time, but most of the times you get
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you get a star goes and then it falls and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you know, sports is that way. You can be great
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: at something worldwide in a way like one of the greatest,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: and then that's it. There's a day it just stops
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and the next day you wake up and you're like, wow, Okay,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: that was amazing. I kind of want to keep doing that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: But now it's over. And so the great thing I'm good,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: the thing I'm best at, maybe I'll be the best
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: at that. My whole life ever is gone and I'm
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: actually looking forward and I'm not even good at anything else.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: And so it said, there's a death. I always tell
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: people when they're transitioning, it's a death, like treat it
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that way, like it it died, and now you got
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: to warn it and now you have to go through
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the pain of it all and all the twelve steps
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and come out and then say, okay, then what's the future.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go try to be great at something
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: else and I'm just gonna And my hero, Roger Shaubek,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I was asking for advice and you go, I'm retiring.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: What should I do? He goes, run, I go run,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: where you go just I don't know, Just run away
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: because the game will never leave you. They'll always want
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: to ask you questions about it. Don't worry about it,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: but you need to run away from it because all
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: all you'll do is try to go back because it's
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: such an allure, because it was the time that you
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: were the best. And it's been great advice because despite
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the fact that my kids don't care, and the only
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: thing they care about is I'm number top five Bobby Bones,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Like literally, they talk about it all the time. It's
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: been a great advice because it is a death and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I and I treat it that way, like it died
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: and it was amazing and now I got a different life.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: What's your favorite picture in your house that has nothing
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: to do with sports?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: There's nothing. If you walked in my home, you would
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: not know that it was my home. I didn't want
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: to do that to the kids. They had enough problems
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: at school and especially with my boys. You know, just
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Steve young skid, what do you do? You throw the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: ball and like, no, I hate football, you know, yeah,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I like music, theater, you know, like so in our home,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: nothing like that we have. I guess we don't have
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: a ton of art. We have a lot of transitional art,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I'll call it. So like for Valentine's Day or Thanksgiving,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: she draws a huge tree and then everyone has to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: write what they're thankful for and put it on the tree.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So it's like that's the main thing in the house.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And then there's the during Halloween there's all the pictures
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: from all the years of Halloween. They go up and
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: then come down. So a lot of transitional art in
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: our house. Uh. Look, I you know, there's there's a
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: little a small picture of a great picture of Jesus
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: that I love. That's like very to me, is very honest.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: That is up on the on the on the we
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: love the fireplace. That's just small but just kind of
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: reminder that kind of thing.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: And our final experiment, mount rushmore foreheads musically, who do
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: you put on that all time?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm just gonna go with like for me.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Only for you, It's only for you, it's your personal
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: mountain rush for me.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Right all right? Strangely algreen, Uh can I have earth
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: wind fire like the whole group? Yes? Okay, these are
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: like some of like from the beginning, I think, uh
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: uh huh you too, Like I just you know, I'm
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: just thinking influence. Well you have run out of places
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: because Bruce Wringston has to be there as well. But
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: now I have to have a space for Chris Stapleton,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Like I just move everyone move over this. This guy
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: needs a space.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: A fifth heady.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: But but I think that I I just dude is
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: amazing and I just I one day I want to
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: meet him. I want to meet him somehow. It's amazing.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Thanks for the time. Really, you guys are the best
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: ye could have done.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Like what I I love this. I uh, Now you're
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: gonna have to come on my little podcast and we're
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: gonna talk about quarterbacking.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: How you do it in fourth grade when I was
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: left handed.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: No, once you start thinking about it, about the metaphor,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: you'll be like, oh, I know how I.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I wanted wanted Yeah, the chair. I was gonna say
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: a quarterback intil like tenth grade, just to kind of no,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I know, receiver. And I know you're not even.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Talking funny about it's funny last week or like we're
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: setting this up, Okay, when do you want to do it?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, let's say this is Wednesday, let's
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: do it early. Early is great, okay, great, and then
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it's like, oh,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: by the way, here's a picture of me high fiving
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: does Bryant and the game. Then here's the m v
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: P troop.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Not true, like out of no work.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't say, hey, have you done anything great lately?
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: You had something?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: What happened? It's like, I did you play?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: By the way, Steve, I just want you to know
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: that I was m VP somebody already. Golf was it charity?
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Softball was not charity. First of all, I'm a little insulted.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Second of all, sometimes I will fill in for rich Eisen,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: who I can come you do this thing? Yeah? I
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: feel I do. I feel yeah, And so I'll do
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: his show when he's gone. And I was gonna do
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: it this week and I was not able to do it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: And so I saw that you were on and you
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: were talking about playing at the golf tournament, and so
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: a message and said, hey, how did golf tournament go?
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Because I have other friends that were playing, and you were.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Like, it's funny. I was just joking, and you got
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: your little defensive I'm very defensive right now.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: And he's like, I did blah blah, and I was like,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: oh cool, well what I was doing?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Well, you're right, there was not a nowhere. You're right,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: it was only.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Kind out of nowhere. Look at my trophy. I'm also
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: good at sports.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Was the belt right? Yes?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was ale and just actually the second a
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: little like wow, yeah, you were just done and I'm
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: an amazing athlete. Now to conclude what it was? The
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Major League Baseball All Star Game. Yeah, it is happening.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: That's where I was amazing. I know, no, no, I know.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: You said it was like a church league, charity church
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: league with fourteen year old.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Do you see this? I was just kid there it was.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I just was having fun.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Very insulted, you're amasy, got to tease.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: That's fun.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Until we meet again, my friend.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Bobby awesome, Steve, the best, the best, the best. Maybe
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: we'll play the A, T and T one day.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, signed this old card for me. Hold on, let
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: me have a sharpy this that'd be fun. Yeah, record
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: him because these are my favorite cards because Steve kept
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: a shirt on for Joyce.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Joyce got Joyce, Joy's got everything.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Joyce, Thank you, joy joy Joy thank you joy.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I said it funny.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I'm want to.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Know him about my previous life. She just know this life.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a he was a
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: punter for many years.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: The best.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Here, Bobby, I'm the greatest. Steve Young. Oh they're great.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Oh they're great. It's both ways, the greatest.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Steve.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: You're a hero.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: That's cool, all right, Steve Young, Thank you, Steve. Thank
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: you for having us and that's amazing. Thank you.