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- 0:00Speaker 1: What if I told you Netflix just turned an honest,
- 0:03Speaker 1: deceased woman into a fictional serial killer confidant. And what
- 0:07Speaker 1: if I told you they invented murders that never happened
- 0:12Speaker 1: in a story about a serial killer who was very
- 0:15Speaker 1: much real. And what if I told you this is
- 0:17Speaker 1: just the latest example of one man's obsession with making
- 0:22Speaker 1: killers and victims stories dramatized to a extremely unsavory degree.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Ryan Murphy has a problem, and equally does Netflix, because
- 0:32Speaker 1: they're the ones that greenlit this absolute garbage, and together
- 0:36Speaker 1: they've built an entire empire on transforming real life monsters
- 0:41Speaker 1: into your next guilty pleasure. And with Monster the Ed
- 0:44Speaker 1: Gaines story, he's, in my opinion, crossed a line that
- 0:48Speaker 1: should terrify anyone who gives a flying frig about the truth.
- 0:54Speaker 1: So today we're lightly exposing Hollywood's most disturbing trend and
- 0:59Speaker 1: the man who's perfected it. All right, let's take a
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- 3:00Speaker 1: to it. Hello everybody, and welcome back into my YouTube channel.
- 3:04Speaker 1: And welcome to my YouTube channel. I'm calling Chris. You
- 3:06Speaker 1: can call me Chris and Anti. Chris is a little
- 3:08Speaker 1: spicy mad right now. I'm on two and two grade.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna do this video. Also, I'm still sick
- 3:14Speaker 1: sorry about that. Wasn't gonna do this video. I did
- 3:16Speaker 1: make this video on ed Geen about the real victims
- 3:20Speaker 1: of what actually happened to them, and I lightly touched
- 3:22Speaker 1: on the ed Geen Show, but it wasn't out yet.
- 3:25Speaker 1: I was just saying like, I'm probably not gonna watch
- 3:27Speaker 1: it because they already look like they're butchering the story.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Turns out, I was right, that's right. You know, I
- 3:33Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about and obviously let's just
- 3:36Speaker 1: let's just you know, wave at the big elephant in
- 3:38Speaker 1: the room. I make true crime content. I do, But
- 3:42Speaker 1: what's important to me is getting all the facts right
- 3:45Speaker 1: and giving you information you might have not even known
- 3:48Speaker 1: that that are part of those facts, and highlighting the
- 3:52Speaker 1: victims of the story and the victims families and really
- 3:56Speaker 1: just nailing in the coffin what pieces of the monsters
- 4:02Speaker 1: or even you know, the killers are in those stories.
- 4:05Speaker 1: And that is like the most important part to me.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Not to mention, I do donate to victims families around
- 4:12Speaker 1: the globe in doing that, so it is very important
- 4:16Speaker 1: to me. Of course, it's fascinating, and I'll get into
- 4:18Speaker 1: that a little bit later. It's fascinating to all of us.
- 4:20Speaker 1: There's a reason why I make the videos. But it
- 4:22Speaker 1: also is important to tell the truth and not to
- 4:26Speaker 1: make up stuff and romanticize stuff and dramatize stuff to
- 4:31Speaker 1: make a better story. What a slap in the face
- 4:34Speaker 1: to the people that got murdered or that went missing
- 4:39Speaker 1: and weren't even a part of the case. We'll get
- 4:41Speaker 1: into that too. I'm just I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated, okay,
- 4:44Speaker 1: but we are going to talk about the show, and
- 4:46Speaker 1: I'm just gonna nippick all the little things that are wrong.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Maybe you'll learn something out of it. I highly suggest
- 4:51Speaker 1: you go watch this video though, if you want it,
- 4:53Speaker 1: like the full in depth story on ed Geen and
- 4:56Speaker 1: all of the horrible things he did and like highlighting
- 5:01Speaker 1: the victims lives and all that kind of stuff. That's
- 5:03Speaker 1: the video you should go to. Today. We're just kind
- 5:05Speaker 1: of kind of graze over the show. Also talk about
- 5:08Speaker 1: some other shows that Brian Murphy has done, along with
- 5:12Speaker 1: maybe some other Netflix shows as well. Just really getting
- 5:14Speaker 1: into it. Okay, I feel like Judgy feel free to
- 5:16Speaker 1: judge me too. It's fine, but I feel like there's
- 5:18Speaker 1: a line and I feel like it's been crossed. So
- 5:20Speaker 1: first things first, let's first take a look at Netflix's
- 5:24Speaker 1: number one newest series. It is number one, by the way,
- 5:26Speaker 1: it's been number one for a while, which is kind
- 5:29Speaker 1: of even more disturbing but also makes sense. And that
- 5:31Speaker 1: is Monster the ed Geet Story. It's the third installment
- 5:35Speaker 1: to Ryan Murphy's trove of not so true crime remakes,
- 5:39Speaker 1: next to The Dahmer One and The Menendez Brother's Case,
- 5:45Speaker 1: which is just again I think I did do a
- 5:48Speaker 1: little bit of a in depth take on that, and
- 5:53Speaker 1: it's hard, it's conflicting. It's like there's stuff that's really
- 5:55Speaker 1: well done, but then he ruins it by doing this weird,
- 5:59Speaker 1: weird bullshit, by making up these weird narratives. It's like, kick,
- 6:04Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get into the edge story right now. Okay.
- 6:06Speaker 1: So episode one is called mother all right, and the
- 6:10Speaker 1: series opens in Rule, Wisconsin, with Ed Geen living under
- 6:13Speaker 1: the control of his fanatically religious mother Augusta. One point,
- 6:17Speaker 1: that's very true. She was crazy and extremely control Like
- 6:22Speaker 1: who condemns all women as corrupt? True? Can get a
- 6:26Speaker 1: can we get a false and fact? So we can
- 6:28Speaker 1: keep count here, all right? So we got one truth
- 6:31Speaker 1: so far. Mom was crazy and she didn't like women,
- 6:34Speaker 1: all right. And then it goes on to Ed secretly
- 6:36Speaker 1: spying on his young neighbors Adeline and Madison trying on lingerie.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Then returns home to engage in disturbing behavior, including wearing
- 6:44Speaker 1: his mother's clothes and doing some not so well fun
- 6:48Speaker 1: for him. I guess some stuff to himself. Let's get
- 6:50Speaker 1: a let's get one on the false thing. He never
- 6:53Speaker 1: did that, he never he never peeping tombed on Adeline
- 6:57Speaker 1: or Madison. That's just made up. He also, as a
- 7:00Speaker 1: seven year old child was caught by Augusta and reprimanded
- 7:05Speaker 1: for it, but there is no stories in which he
- 7:08Speaker 1: did this as an adult. Could it be true? Sure,
- 7:10Speaker 1: I'm going to put a loose false on that one. Okay,
- 7:14Speaker 1: I do want to say I don't mind that they're
- 7:16Speaker 1: doing this because I get that they just want to
- 7:18Speaker 1: show that they had this dynamic. Could they have done
- 7:22Speaker 1: a flashback and would it have been more accurate? Yes,
- 7:26Speaker 1: but whatever, I'm not going to be too picky about that.
- 7:29Speaker 1: So why an Augusta catches him, she explodes with rage
- 7:32Speaker 1: and at a local diner, we learn ed and Adeline
- 7:35Speaker 1: know each other and she shares disturbing Holocaust photos and
- 7:39Speaker 1: Nazi criminal is lecoq material with him, feeding his dark fascinations.
- 7:44Speaker 1: It is true he was fascinated with Nazi photos and
- 7:48Speaker 1: memorabilia and stuff that they did to them. So that's fine.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Adeline wasn't a part of this. There's a loose claim
- 7:55Speaker 1: that they had talked about this, So again, I'm not
- 7:58Speaker 1: going to be like two nitpicky about this. But the
- 7:59Speaker 1: whole relationship they made up about Adeline is completely false.
- 8:02Speaker 1: It's completely false. There's a quote from her where she
- 8:06Speaker 1: said that they had a relationship, but it wasn't until
- 8:09Speaker 1: after all of this, and it was false as well,
- 8:13Speaker 1: it was proven not to be proven. And also Ed
- 8:16Speaker 1: was known to say that he had zero interest in
- 8:20Speaker 1: having any sort of romantic relationship with any women. So
- 8:24Speaker 1: that is this is like a whole conjured up relationship
- 8:26Speaker 1: that didn't even exist. And that's what Ryan Murphy does best.
- 8:29Speaker 1: He just makes up this bullshit to make the story
- 8:31Speaker 1: more interesting and to get more episodes to sell his
- 8:34Speaker 1: share Netflix. I don't know, so that's another false. And
- 8:38Speaker 1: then the episode reaches its climax when Ed's brother Henry,
- 8:41Speaker 1: exhausted by Augusta's tyranny, plans to leave and urges Ed
- 8:44Speaker 1: to join him. That's true, Okay, that did happen, and
- 8:48Speaker 1: Ed responds by attacking Henry with a log and leaving
- 8:50Speaker 1: him for debt, later burning the body and convincing Augusta
- 8:53Speaker 1: was an accident. That's false, never proven. It was an accident.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Henry died by extraction, and yes he did have some
- 9:00Speaker 1: bruises on him. Could it have been Ed potentially, but
- 9:03Speaker 1: it was never proven, So I don't think it should
- 9:06Speaker 1: be in the show because it's not fact. And I
- 9:08Speaker 1: think if you're having to fact check through a show,
- 9:12Speaker 1: and as we'll see, I'm assuming it's going to be
- 9:14Speaker 1: at least fifty to fifty on what's true what's not.
- 9:16Speaker 1: If fifty percent of the show isn't real and it's
- 9:19Speaker 1: based off of ed Geen's story, it's a bad show.
- 9:22Speaker 1: In my opinion. People are watching the show because they're
- 9:25Speaker 1: not crazy like you and me, who we watch and
- 9:28Speaker 1: read a lot of true crime stuff. They take it
- 9:30Speaker 1: as at face value. They think that that is the case,
- 9:33Speaker 1: and if they don't, then that's good. If they just
- 9:34Speaker 1: watch it and think that, oh, this is clearly made
- 9:38Speaker 1: up and it's just ed Geane, then fine. But I
- 9:39Speaker 1: think most people are like, WHOA, he's crazy like that,
- 9:42Speaker 1: that's horrible, And I can't believe he killed his brother.
- 9:45Speaker 1: That's not true. And there was no relationship with that
- 9:47Speaker 1: a lot, and there was no I'm gonna stop yapping,
- 9:50Speaker 1: keep let's continue. So that's false. And then soon after
- 9:54Speaker 1: Augusta dies of a stroke, and this is true, but
- 9:58Speaker 1: it wasn't after It wasn't until a couple years after
- 10:02Speaker 1: actually so they kind of sped up the timeline to
- 10:04Speaker 1: make it more convenient for themselves. Classic, So we got
- 10:08Speaker 1: a false and then, hearing his mother's voice demanding he
- 10:12Speaker 1: keep her close, Ed attempts to dig up her grave
- 10:14Speaker 1: but fails. False never happened. So instead he exhumes another
- 10:18Speaker 1: woman's corpse and places it in Augusta's rocking chair. False
- 10:23Speaker 1: never happened. He did, he did. He did exhume other bodies,
- 10:27Speaker 1: but this wasn't till a long time after as well.
- 10:30Speaker 1: So again we're just speeding up the timeline for convenience.
- 10:33Speaker 1: We don't know that he ever put a corpse in
- 10:37Speaker 1: the chair. In fact, Ed Gat has never claimed that,
- 10:39Speaker 1: So that's just a fun little thing for Ryan Murphy
- 10:44Speaker 1: to just do because it's creepier, I guess, but it's bullshit.
- 10:47Speaker 1: And then the episode ends with Ed gazing lovingly at
- 10:50Speaker 1: the body and his grief and madness fully merch. So listen.
- 10:54Speaker 1: First episode. I was so frustrated watching this. I was like,
- 10:57Speaker 1: as a true crime junkie, I was like, how just wrong?
- 11:02Speaker 1: It Just like it's like when you read a book
- 11:05Speaker 1: and then you watch the movie and they're like, you're like,
- 11:07Speaker 1: what is this but it's even worse because it's real people.
- 11:11Speaker 1: It's real people, and we're not even into the actual
- 11:14Speaker 1: victims yet, which makes me sick to my stomach, like
- 11:16Speaker 1: he should have just made a show like Psycho, or
- 11:20Speaker 1: like Bates Motel or like you know, Chainsaw Massacre. There's
- 11:23Speaker 1: a reason why people make these fake serial killers instead
- 11:27Speaker 1: of the real one, because you can. You can go
- 11:29Speaker 1: off and make stuff, and you could do stuff inspired
- 11:30Speaker 1: by something. But when you're putting ed Gean's name on
- 11:33Speaker 1: something and the actual victims' names in something, you have
- 11:37Speaker 1: to tell the truth. In my opinion, it just doesn't
- 11:39Speaker 1: fly with me. Let's move on to episode two, which
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- 13:51Speaker 1: So episode two opens with Ed experiencing nightmares of Holocaust
- 13:55Speaker 1: victims stemming from his obsession with Nazi material. I'm fine
- 13:58Speaker 1: with this. You can have a little dream, that's fine,
- 14:00Speaker 1: you know whatever. The show then jumps to nineteen fifty
- 14:03Speaker 1: nine Hollywood, where Alfred Hitchcock, his wife Alma, and author
- 14:07Speaker 1: Robert Block discuss how Geen's crimes will inspire Psycho's Roman
- 14:11Speaker 1: Bates and they explore how ads fascination with death began early,
- 14:15Speaker 1: fueled by pulp magazines and about criminals like Nazi is
- 14:19Speaker 1: Lacoke establishing the connection between Geen's real crimes and emerging
- 14:23Speaker 1: horror cinema. And this is like also just very like.
- 14:28Speaker 1: The way they say things is so like, ohoh, he
- 14:31Speaker 1: looked at this and this, and it went deeper than that,
- 14:33Speaker 1: and I feel like there's more to it. But overall
- 14:36Speaker 1: they weren't wrong. He was infactuated with certain types of
- 14:40Speaker 1: magazines and with Nazi memorabilia, not until later in his
- 14:43Speaker 1: life though. But whatever, I'll let its lad, okay, So
- 14:46Speaker 1: we'll give a loose fact and then back in nineteen
- 14:49Speaker 1: fifties Wisconsin, AD's relationship with Adeline deepens bizarrely, and she
- 14:54Speaker 1: dreams of photographing crime scenes in New York, while he
- 14:57Speaker 1: shows her a bowl made from a human skull, which
- 15:00Speaker 1: she dismisses as dark humor. And when he invites her
- 15:03Speaker 1: to meet his mother, Adeline discovers Augusta's preserved corpse sitting
- 15:07Speaker 1: in a chair and flees in terror. All just completely false,
- 15:12Speaker 1: none of it ever happened, what is even happening right now?
- 15:15Speaker 1: But shaken ed visits Mary Hogan's tavern, where he suddenly
- 15:19Speaker 1: shoots and kills her, dragging her body back to his
- 15:23Speaker 1: farm while police remained oblivious. And yes, he did kill
- 15:27Speaker 1: Mary Hogan, but the way they lead up to it,
- 15:29Speaker 1: it's just it's not it's just not what happened with
- 15:32Speaker 1: the whole Adeline thing going on. So we'll give a
- 15:34Speaker 1: false and effect because yeah, I guess. And then the
- 15:38Speaker 1: episode ends with Hitchcock directing Anthony Perkins as Norman Bates,
- 15:41Speaker 1: showing him artifacts meant to mirror Gan's grotesque collection, cementing
- 15:45Speaker 1: the link between real horror and Hollywood fiction. And here's
- 15:50Speaker 1: where I'm like, Okay, is this like a weird way
- 15:53Speaker 1: for Ryan to be? Like, see, Hollywood always makes up
- 15:56Speaker 1: stuff like I'm doing, which makes it okay. I'm like no,
- 16:00Speaker 1: because the thing with Hitchcock is he's actually making a
- 16:03Speaker 1: completely fictional movie with light inspiration from ed Geen. You're
- 16:08Speaker 1: just making a ed Geen movie and putting your own random,
- 16:13Speaker 1: fucked up shit into the movie to make it more
- 16:15Speaker 1: interesting so you'll you can sell it better. It's it's
- 16:19Speaker 1: not the same. So if anybody's arguing like, well, he's
- 16:22Speaker 1: he put lots of things into the show to be like, oh,
- 16:25Speaker 1: well this is you know, Hollywood romanticizes it, and he
- 16:29Speaker 1: he leans into that with this. It's like, no, see,
- 16:32Speaker 1: you guys, see the difference. You know, this is fiction,
- 16:35Speaker 1: you know, psycho fiction, ed Gank not fiction. Anyway, let's
- 16:39Speaker 1: move on to episode three and the next episode. Oh
- 16:43Speaker 1: made me upset? Okay? Episode three is the Babysitter. All right,
- 16:47Speaker 1: this is Addison Ray's episode. First off, and I'll add
- 16:50Speaker 1: this in as well. The acting great, the acting from
- 16:54Speaker 1: everyone fantastic. The stylization great, cinematography great. He knows how
- 16:59Speaker 1: to make a good show and we'll get into that later.
- 17:02Speaker 1: So I just want to start with that. But this
- 17:03Speaker 1: episode just revolved around a completely false narrative about a
- 17:09Speaker 1: victim who likely died extremely violently but is unsolved and
- 17:14Speaker 1: absolutely was not one of ed Geen's victims and was
- 17:18Speaker 1: kidnapped and god knows what happened to her. But Ryan
- 17:21Speaker 1: Murphy thought, since she's gone and her whole family's dead
- 17:25Speaker 1: at this point because of the year that this happened,
- 17:28Speaker 1: he just do whatever he wants and make up a
- 17:29Speaker 1: story about a real human being who now is deceased
- 17:33Speaker 1: and most likely died in a horrific way and terrified,
- 17:37Speaker 1: and he just decided to just make up his own
- 17:39Speaker 1: little story and make Edgeen the killer anyway. Episode three
- 17:42Speaker 1: opens with Ed dancing alone in his farmhouse, wearing his
- 17:46Speaker 1: mother's clothes and a mask made from human in which
- 17:50Speaker 1: we can safely assume he wore the masks he made
- 17:53Speaker 1: so fine was he known to dress in his mother's clothing? No,
- 17:59Speaker 1: so a fall in fact, I guess. And when police
- 18:02Speaker 1: arrived to question him about Mary Hogan's disappearance, Ed perfectly
- 18:05Speaker 1: plays the awkward grieving son, claiming car trouble kept him
- 18:08Speaker 1: home with Augusta, A, successfully deflecting suspicion despite witness placing
- 18:13Speaker 1: his truck near Mary's tavern. He did not get caught
- 18:16Speaker 1: for this, so fine. Later, Ed reunites with Adeline at
- 18:19Speaker 1: the diner. Every time Adeline's name comes up, put it
- 18:22Speaker 1: on the false because it just didn't happen, all right,
- 18:24Speaker 1: And despite her previous terror, she warms to him again.
- 18:27Speaker 1: She shows him photos of a transgender woman, fascinating Ed
- 18:31Speaker 1: with concepts of identity transformation, and he promises her a surprise,
- 18:36Speaker 1: And that night, at a cemetery, Ed proposes to Adeline
- 18:38Speaker 1: with a ring stolen from a fresh grave, and disturbingly,
- 18:41Speaker 1: she accepts this never happened. She does say later on,
- 18:45Speaker 1: after Ed is arrested, that there was a proposal made.
- 18:49Speaker 1: It was at her house, it wasn't at the graves,
- 18:52Speaker 1: but then she retracts everything she said. So it could
- 18:57Speaker 1: be an attention thing, it could be something that happened,
- 19:00Speaker 1: but we know Ryan Murphy's going to take any little
- 19:02Speaker 1: grain of salt and just make it into a giant iceberg.
- 19:07Speaker 1: So like loosely kind of true if she was right,
- 19:11Speaker 1: but it's not proven in any way, especially based off
- 19:14Speaker 1: Ed Gaen's accounts. He says that wasn't the case when
- 19:18Speaker 1: he was very forthcoming about everything else that happened. So
- 19:20Speaker 1: I'm going to safely assume it was false, but we
- 19:23Speaker 1: don't know for sure anyway. The episode interweaves Hollywood's exploitation
- 19:28Speaker 1: of the game story as Anthony Perkins becomes trapped playing
- 19:32Speaker 1: Norman Bates, struggling with his own sexuality while studios demand sequels.
- 19:37Speaker 1: And I don't mind this intertwining of the you know,
- 19:43Speaker 1: like Psycho being made and everything. That's fine, but I
- 19:46Speaker 1: just wish the Ed Green stuff was actually true, that
- 19:49Speaker 1: it would just make more sense. I think it just
- 19:53Speaker 1: belittles everything else around it in my opinion. So anyway,
- 19:57Speaker 1: back in Wisconsin, Ed's behavior escalates when he babysits local children,
- 20:02Speaker 1: and he did babysit local children, but in the show
- 20:06Speaker 1: he terrorizes them with decomposed heads as games, finally alerting
- 20:11Speaker 1: parents that something's wrong with the town's quiet handyman. People
- 20:14Speaker 1: actually liked Ed game, They actually liked him, and they
- 20:17Speaker 1: were fine with him babysitting. He was known to be
- 20:19Speaker 1: a very good babysitter and not to torment the kids
- 20:22Speaker 1: at all. So we're gonna have to throw up another
- 20:24Speaker 1: giant false None of that ever happened. It's for shock value.
- 20:28Speaker 1: It's not true. And that night Ed abducts Evelyn, and
- 20:31Speaker 1: this is the woman I was talking about where they
- 20:33Speaker 1: just completely manufactured a story about a real person and
- 20:37Speaker 1: it frustrates me. But Evelyn was a young babysitter and
- 20:40Speaker 1: she recently recovered from polio. That's not true. And Ed
- 20:43Speaker 1: murders her in the barn while forcing Augusta's preserved corpse
- 20:46Speaker 1: to participate in the violence, signaling his progression from grave
- 20:51Speaker 1: robbing to killing. Living victims. All of that's false. All
- 20:55Speaker 1: of it is false. Ed never abducted Evelyn, He never
- 20:59Speaker 1: killed Evelyn. He never put his mother in front of
- 21:02Speaker 1: the victims to kill them in front and participate in
- 21:05Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. None of that ever happened.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Evelyn Grace Hartley born November twenty second, nineteen thirty eight,
- 21:12Speaker 1: disappeared October twenty fourth, nineteen fifty three. And she was
- 21:15Speaker 1: the daughter of a professor. And in the show they
- 21:17Speaker 1: have her babysitting two kids when she was actually babysitting
- 21:20Speaker 1: one twenty month year old girl. Why even make up
- 21:23Speaker 1: two kids? Like anything Ryan can lie about and just
- 21:26Speaker 1: make extra bad he does and it just makes me
- 21:29Speaker 1: so mad. But she was babysitting for the rest Musen
- 21:33Speaker 1: family and Lacrosse when she failed to check in at
- 21:36Speaker 1: eight thirty pm. This is the real story, by the way,
- 21:38Speaker 1: because I feel like we owe her this. And her
- 21:41Speaker 1: father found the house with locked doors, lights on, furnature
- 21:45Speaker 1: moved and were belonging scattered in different rooms, and her
- 21:48Speaker 1: glasses broken and a basement window was open with pride
- 21:52Speaker 1: marks and a step ladder positioned beneath it, and blood
- 21:55Speaker 1: was found inside the house and yarded with bloody handprints
- 21:58Speaker 1: in a nearby garage, and the baby was unarmed, thankfully,
- 22:03Speaker 1: so police dogs tracked Evelynce sent to Cooley Drive two
- 22:06Speaker 1: blocks away, where she was likely put in a vehicle,
- 22:09Speaker 1: and witness ed Hoffer reported nearly being hit by a
- 22:13Speaker 1: speeding nineteen forty two green buick with two men and
- 22:17Speaker 1: a girl inside, and he'd seen them earlier with the
- 22:20Speaker 1: girl wedged between them holding her arms and for the record,
- 22:25Speaker 1: ed geens car was a maroon nineteen forty nine Ford
- 22:29Speaker 1: four door Sedan, so not even ed Geen's car, and
- 22:33Speaker 1: days later, bloodstained clothing matching Evelyn's blood type was found
- 22:36Speaker 1: at various locations and over one thousand people, including National
- 22:40Speaker 1: Guard and Air Force, searched for her. It was like
- 22:42Speaker 1: one of the largest searches in Wisconsin history, and every
- 22:45Speaker 1: vehicle in La Cross County was inspected, and in May
- 22:48Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four, controversial mass lide detector tests were conducted
- 22:51Speaker 1: on local high school boys but halted after testing three
- 22:55Speaker 1: hundred and in November nineteen fifty seven, serial killer ed
- 22:58Speaker 1: Geen was investigated but cleared after passing two light detector tests,
- 23:03Speaker 1: and in two thousand and four. A nineteen sixty nine
- 23:05Speaker 1: bar recording surfaced in which Clyde Peterson implicated himself and
- 23:09Speaker 1: Jack Golfair in Evelyn's murder, claiming she was buried at LeFarge,
- 23:15Speaker 1: but both men had died by then, and Evelyn's parents
- 23:18Speaker 1: moved to Oregon in the nineteen seventies and have since
- 23:21Speaker 1: passed away, and her case remains unsolved. So that's the
- 23:26Speaker 1: real story about Evelyn, and that's all readily available online,
- 23:31Speaker 1: and there is a lot more information about Evelyn. Also,
- 23:34Speaker 1: she never had polio. That's just a weird thing he
- 23:36Speaker 1: made up for the story, I guess. But this is
- 23:40Speaker 1: a real life human being who walked and breathed and
- 23:45Speaker 1: had experiences. And then for like Ryan to make this
- 23:49Speaker 1: up and for the actors to look at that and
- 23:52Speaker 1: be like, yeah, that's fine, It just it makes me mad,
- 23:56Speaker 1: Like if that was my sister or if that was
- 23:58Speaker 1: my daughter, I would sue them to the ground. But
- 24:01Speaker 1: they're all dead. They can't do anything, you know, And
- 24:05Speaker 1: I hate that people think that's okay. I don't think
- 24:07Speaker 1: it's okay. And it's like, oh, it's what he imagined
- 24:11Speaker 1: he could have done. It's like, no, you're dealing with
- 24:12Speaker 1: a person that actually is her case is still unsolved.
- 24:16Speaker 1: So like that alone makes this show garbage to me personally.
- 24:20Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm getting so emotional about this,
- 24:21Speaker 1: but it's frustrating. Like if I was approached to do
- 24:24Speaker 1: a role like that, I would outright be like, what
- 24:29Speaker 1: is this like? In doing two minutes of research and
- 24:33Speaker 1: saying this is so disrespectful to the victim and their family.
- 24:37Speaker 1: I'm good, you know, and I don't want to be
- 24:39Speaker 1: a hater and stuff, But like the quotes that I
- 24:43Speaker 1: read because I was doing research on this, and obviously
- 24:46Speaker 1: you know there's quotes of the Ryan Murphy and the
- 24:50Speaker 1: actors and all this stuff, but Addison's quotes are just
- 24:53Speaker 1: like so tone deaf. It was unbelievable. And she said
- 24:56Speaker 1: in an interview she was asked, tell us a little
- 24:59Speaker 1: bit about your case character and how she fits into
- 25:01Speaker 1: the story. Addison Ray answered, word for word, Evelyn in
- 25:05Speaker 1: the story is a babysitter to two really sweet children.
- 25:08Speaker 1: I did research before I filmed about Evelyn. There's actually
- 25:12Speaker 1: not much about her. There's a lot. It was the
- 25:15Speaker 1: largest search for any human in Wisconsin in history at
- 25:19Speaker 1: that point. Okay, they don't really know exactly what happened
- 25:23Speaker 1: in real life, So it was really interesting for me
- 25:25Speaker 1: as an actor to lean into something that there was
- 25:28Speaker 1: minimal information about. You know that ed Gean didn't do it.
- 25:32Speaker 1: If you did a minute of research and you know
- 25:35Speaker 1: that there is no evidence that she was killed like there,
- 25:39Speaker 1: I would just be like, now, like what are we doing?
- 25:42Speaker 1: But what do I know? Maybe I'm just too sensitive
- 25:44Speaker 1: to this stuff. And then she was asked what do
- 25:46Speaker 1: you think people find so interesting about the Monster anthology series?
- 25:50Speaker 1: Addison says, I think it's really wild to see a
- 25:53Speaker 1: picture being painted that feels so insightful and honest and
- 25:58Speaker 1: raw and challenging in a lot of ways. It brings
- 26:02Speaker 1: so much light to things that maybe people didn't explore before.
- 26:06Speaker 1: I didn't know much about ed Green other than what
- 26:09Speaker 1: movies were made based off him. Seems like you still don't.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Nobody does that. Watch the show. If anybody watched the
- 26:15Speaker 1: show and things they learned anything about ed Green, they didn't.
- 26:17Speaker 1: They learned like maybe twenty percent if that anyway, she continues,
- 26:21Speaker 1: So it was interesting to dive into that in a
- 26:23Speaker 1: different way and also speak to Charlie, someone that had
- 26:26Speaker 1: such an intimate understanding of who Ed Green was. And listen,
- 26:30Speaker 1: I'm not going to blame the actors because it's their
- 26:34Speaker 1: job to act and it's not necessarily their job to
- 26:38Speaker 1: do the research on these subjects. They show up and
- 26:41Speaker 1: they do the best they can, and they did a
- 26:43Speaker 1: really good job. Like actors did a really good job.
- 26:45Speaker 1: But I think people are so like far removed that
- 26:49Speaker 1: these were actually real people and it's just fine to
- 26:53Speaker 1: just lie about it and to make up stuff, even
- 26:56Speaker 1: if it's like maybe in his perspective that's what he
- 27:00Speaker 1: thought in his head, it's like, no, you're just you're
- 27:02Speaker 1: talking about Ed Gaines. So tell the real story. Don't
- 27:05Speaker 1: leave things up to interpretation. You can't just like make
- 27:09Speaker 1: it obscure. And maybe this happened, and maybe he thought
- 27:13Speaker 1: that this could happen. It's just this type of stuff,
- 27:16Speaker 1: in my opinion, shouldn't exist. And that brings us to
- 27:19Speaker 1: episode four in Greed And Episode four opens with Adeline
- 27:22Speaker 1: discovering the corpse in Augusta's chair and fleeing home in terror,
- 27:26Speaker 1: with Ed following her, and when he corners her in
- 27:28Speaker 1: the bedroom, she demands answers, and Ed commonly admits the
- 27:31Speaker 1: body isn't Augusta but a woman he exhumed, and shockingly,
- 27:34Speaker 1: Adeline responds with fascination rather than horror, asking how it
- 27:38Speaker 1: felt to dig someone up. Didn't happen, didn't happen. And
- 27:41Speaker 1: what frustrates me about Adeline as well is that she
- 27:44Speaker 1: is passed. She can't defend herself. You know, parents obviously
- 27:47Speaker 1: passed away. All these people are deceased, and obviously they
- 27:52Speaker 1: may have descendants, they may not, but they can't defend
- 27:55Speaker 1: themselves in any way. So they're just twisting her story
- 27:58Speaker 1: into something that never existed. And again, maybe you know,
- 28:02Speaker 1: you could say it's what Ed thought or whatever, but
- 28:05Speaker 1: it's not, because he's known to say that he had
- 28:08Speaker 1: zero interest in women, and that that's a documented fact.
- 28:12Speaker 1: He never he was obsessed with his mother. We know
- 28:15Speaker 1: that he wanted to be his mother, He wanted to
- 28:18Speaker 1: be inside his mother's skin. That we know he had
- 28:21Speaker 1: no fascination with having any sort of relationship with anyone. Again,
- 28:27Speaker 1: just frush, just dumb, just frustrating and dumb. And then
- 28:30Speaker 1: Ed then begins courning Bernice Warden, which never happened. He
- 28:34Speaker 1: never had any sort of relationship with Bernice, and the
- 28:37Speaker 1: lonely hardware store owner was charmed over her lunch in
- 28:40Speaker 1: an ice skating date, even making plans to move in together,
- 28:44Speaker 1: all false never happened. This was like his first attempt
- 28:47Speaker 1: at life beyond his mother's shadow, but hallucinations of Augusta
- 28:50Speaker 1: calling Bernice a harlot proved stronger than any chance at normalcy.
- 28:55Speaker 1: So Ed breaks things off with Bernice the next day,
- 28:57Speaker 1: and when she protests, he shoots her in and he
- 29:00Speaker 1: drags her body to his barn, where he heavily mutilates
- 29:03Speaker 1: and hangs it upside down in the show's most graphic sequence,
- 29:06Speaker 1: which yes, I know they never had any sort of relationships,
- 29:11Speaker 1: so I don't even know, put like ten more on
- 29:13Speaker 1: this and it's all just bullshit. He absolutely did, He
- 29:16Speaker 1: absolutely did take her back to the barn. He absolutely
- 29:18Speaker 1: did horrible things to her and mute her body. And
- 29:21Speaker 1: I'm sure Ryan Murphy took that and he's like, Wow,
- 29:23Speaker 1: I don't need to make anything up about that. That's
- 29:26Speaker 1: grotesque enough. We can throw in that, like we get
- 29:29Speaker 1: one truth thing and it's like the worst thing that
- 29:31Speaker 1: ever happened. And when he shows the corpse to Adeline,
- 29:33Speaker 1: which never happened, she's disturbingly fascinated rather than repulsed, leaning
- 29:38Speaker 1: into her own darkness. It's just a completely made up thing.
- 29:41Speaker 1: And I feel horrible for Adeline because none of this
- 29:44Speaker 1: ever happened, and it makes her look like a really
- 29:46Speaker 1: evil person when she was completely innocent in all of this.
- 29:49Speaker 1: And the episode ends with a cut to filmmaker Toby Cooper,
- 29:52Speaker 1: who's frustrated that Hitchcock Psycho didn't go far enough, beginning
- 29:56Speaker 1: work on what will become the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, showing
- 30:00Speaker 1: how Gen's real crimes continue seeping into popular culture. Again,
- 30:05Speaker 1: I don't mind this parallel. It's fine, but that's all
- 30:08Speaker 1: made up, you know, Texas Change. I'm Asker Psycho all
- 30:11Speaker 1: the stuff. It's grotesque and crazy, but I love horror.
- 30:14Speaker 1: You know, it's not We're not dealing with real people,
- 30:16Speaker 1: so whatever. I much prefer a documentary that's real and like,
- 30:20Speaker 1: you know, highlights the victims and how horrible the freaking
- 30:25Speaker 1: monster that committed those crimes are. But this whole production
- 30:29Speaker 1: is just sick. And that brings us to episode five
- 30:32Speaker 1: ice and episode five shift's focused to Adeline's unraveling, and
- 30:35Speaker 1: this whole episode could just be like omitted because Adeline's
- 30:39Speaker 1: whole story is completely false. But anyway, it opens with
- 30:42Speaker 1: her sleeping with a local farm hand, which we never
- 30:45Speaker 1: knew about as signaling her detachment from Ed, fighting with
- 30:49Speaker 1: domineering mother who wants her to settle down. Adeline dreams
- 30:52Speaker 1: of escaping to New York as a crime scene photographer.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Not true, never, never, never happened. Over a tense dinner,
- 31:00Speaker 1: she tells Ed she's leaving and urges him to come,
- 31:02Speaker 1: but he's paralyzed by his devotion by Augustus memory. Yes,
- 31:06Speaker 1: he had that relationship with his mother, but there's no
- 31:08Speaker 1: proof this ever happened. And what Ed pushes for intercourse
- 31:13Speaker 1: and traditional family life, Adeline cruely rejects him and mockingly
- 31:16Speaker 1: suggesting that if no living woman wants him, that maybe
- 31:19Speaker 1: he should sleep with corpses. He never did that, By
- 31:22Speaker 1: the way, there is no evidence and no confession that
- 31:25Speaker 1: he ever did anything like that with the corpses. So
- 31:29Speaker 1: that is a completely made up thing that Ryan Murphy
- 31:32Speaker 1: thought would be just extra triggering and I don't know,
- 31:36Speaker 1: interesting to the viewer. Completely made up, and this just
- 31:39Speaker 1: triggers the show's most grutesque scene, and they drive to
- 31:42Speaker 1: a cemetery where Ed does stuff with an exhumed body
- 31:46Speaker 1: while Adeline watches all fabricated and Adeline heads to New
- 31:50Speaker 1: York but fails miserably. Her apartment is preesing her job
- 31:52Speaker 1: interviews bomb and when she confronts her landlord about the heat,
- 31:55Speaker 1: she snaps and beats the woman to death with her shoe,
- 32:00Speaker 1: robbing the body before fleeing back to Wisconsin. This never happened.
- 32:04Speaker 1: This has to be like illegal to say people did
- 32:07Speaker 1: stuff like a full on crime that never happened. Like
- 32:10Speaker 1: it's actually insane. This isn't a part of like Ed's imagination,
- 32:14Speaker 1: if you want to use that argument. She's just like
- 32:16Speaker 1: off living her own life and she hurts somebody on
- 32:22Speaker 1: like anyway anyway. Finding no comfort from her mother, who
- 32:27Speaker 1: admits never wanting her in the first place, all made up,
- 32:30Speaker 1: Adeline seeks solace with Ed, suggesting intercourse to rekindle their relationship,
- 32:35Speaker 1: but Edward Coyle's saying she's too warm and he can
- 32:40Speaker 1: no longer connect with the living. And to prove her devotion,
- 32:43Speaker 1: Adeline climbs into a bathtub of cold water while Ed
- 32:46Speaker 1: dumps ice over her. And this is supposed to be
- 32:49Speaker 1: like a chilling metaphor for how trauma has destroyed them both.
- 32:52Speaker 1: But none of this ever happened. He never had relations
- 32:58Speaker 1: with dead bodies. He never, you know, as far as
- 33:01Speaker 1: we know, he died a virgin. So yeah, and then
- 33:06Speaker 1: those episodes six The Buxom Birds. So episode six finally
- 33:10Speaker 1: reveals ed Geane's House of Horrors, and after a flashback
- 33:13Speaker 1: showing Deputy Frank Warden asking his mother Bernice to host
- 33:16Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner, we jumped to present where Bernice has vanished
- 33:21Speaker 1: and Frank and Sheriff Art Skylee investigate her hardware store,
- 33:25Speaker 1: finding blood splatter and package addressed to ed Gean and
- 33:29Speaker 1: Ed's farmhouse. They discover an unimaginable nightmare. And this so
- 33:32Speaker 1: far is fine. It's a little bit true, not the
- 33:35Speaker 1: whole Thanksgiving dinner thing, but you know, we're a little
- 33:39Speaker 1: bit true, all right. And there was actually a receipt,
- 33:41Speaker 1: not a package for ed Geen but whatever. But at
- 33:44Speaker 1: the house they find bulls made from skulls, furniture upholstered
- 33:48Speaker 1: with human skin, masks fashioned from faces, and all all true,
- 33:53Speaker 1: And like Ryan Murphy doesn't need anything to dramatize that,
- 33:56Speaker 1: because it's as horrible as it gets. He was a monster,
- 33:58Speaker 1: but just because you call a show monster doesn't mean
- 34:02Speaker 1: you think he is. You're like heavily leading into the
- 34:05Speaker 1: fact that he was just this misunderstood guy who had
- 34:08Speaker 1: relationships and is all false anyway. Frank's search leads to
- 34:12Speaker 1: the barn, where he finds his mother's headless body hanging
- 34:16Speaker 1: upside down like butchered beat true. That is true, and
- 34:21Speaker 1: it's a devastating moment as a son discovers his mother's
- 34:24Speaker 1: horrific fate. And Ed arrives during the investigation and is
- 34:28Speaker 1: arrested while grief stricken and Frank attacks him, and under interrogation,
- 34:33Speaker 1: Ed calmly admits to grave robbing and making keepsakes, but
- 34:36Speaker 1: denies murder even during a polygraph test, and Sheriff skylely
- 34:40Speaker 1: suspects Ed killed many more, possibly up to two hundred,
- 34:44Speaker 1: but adds foggy memory prevents proving additional murders. Meanwhile, Adeline
- 34:49Speaker 1: tries to sell her story to the media but is ignored,
- 34:52Speaker 1: reduced to a footnote in the horror she witnessed. So
- 34:56Speaker 1: this episode is like the most loosely true so far
- 34:59Speaker 1: up until this point, because Adeline did put in a
- 35:02Speaker 1: quote where she's like, yeah, like I know him so well,
- 35:05Speaker 1: and she really wanted to sell her story and like
- 35:07Speaker 1: be in the limelight for it, but she retracted everything
- 35:10Speaker 1: two weeks later because there was just no way to
- 35:14Speaker 1: prove that any of that happened, and she probably just
- 35:16Speaker 1: had it conscious and she's like, oh, actually that none
- 35:18Speaker 1: of that happened. But the episode ends with Frank struggling
- 35:21Speaker 1: to reclaim his mother's body from the morgue for burial,
- 35:24Speaker 1: then attending Thanksgiving dinner at Skylie's house, but when the
- 35:27Speaker 1: sheriff carves a turkey, Frank can only see visions of
- 35:30Speaker 1: Ed dismembering Bernice. All the shock value. We don't know
- 35:33Speaker 1: this happened whatever, and is trauma shattering any sense abnormalcy again, awful.
- 35:38Speaker 1: She's a real human beig and she was butchered in
- 35:40Speaker 1: real life, and to just like portray that in just
- 35:43Speaker 1: the most tremendous way is weird and disgusting. But they
- 35:47Speaker 1: actually got some things true in this one. He actually
- 35:50Speaker 1: was her Bernice's son, so there you go. And Watkins
- 35:54Speaker 1: did give interviews to newspapers after Geane's arrest, but retracted
- 35:57Speaker 1: all the statements and cheris, I keep saying skyly sorry,
- 36:00Speaker 1: it's Slee. I don't know why I read it like
- 36:03Speaker 1: that did assault Gen during questioning, banging his head into
- 36:08Speaker 1: a wall. So that's fine. I feel like this hold,
- 36:10Speaker 1: this part is like dramatic enough for Ryan not to
- 36:12Speaker 1: have to do anything besides you know, the carving turkey thing,
- 36:15Speaker 1: which was just insane. But it's like the most accurate episode.
- 36:20Speaker 1: I think there is an in the entire show net
- 36:23Speaker 1: brigs Is Episode seven, Can't Radio. Episode seven finds Ed
- 36:26Speaker 1: Gen declared legally insane and committed to a mental hospital
- 36:29Speaker 1: instead of prison, true, while Deputy Frank Warden spirals into alcoholism,
- 36:34Speaker 1: unable to cope with discovering his mother's butchered body, and
- 36:37Speaker 1: Sheriff Sklee tries to talk Frank out of his plan
- 36:40Speaker 1: to sue Adds a state and auction his grotesque belongings
- 36:43Speaker 1: for revenge and money, warning that turning Gen's artifacts into
- 36:46Speaker 1: public spectacle is wrong, but Frank is beyond reasoning, and
- 36:50Speaker 1: at the asylum, Ed settles into a childlike routine when
- 36:54Speaker 1: a friendly nurse nickname Saltzy, offers to buy him items
- 36:57Speaker 1: with money from his property sale, so and Ed requests
- 37:01Speaker 1: a Ham radio, believing they'll let him speak with his
- 37:04Speaker 1: idols like Nazi criminal is Lecoke and transgender pioneer Christine Jurgensen.
- 37:10Speaker 1: So Ed chats with Isla, who bonds with him over
- 37:14Speaker 1: their shared imprisonment, before taking matters into her own hands,
- 37:18Speaker 1: and then calls Christine seeking guidance about his gender confusion. Obviously,
- 37:23Speaker 1: all of this is like in his mind, he's later
- 37:26Speaker 1: going to be diagnosed with schizophrenia. So I get that
- 37:28Speaker 1: they're just trying to make him extra crazy and to
- 37:32Speaker 1: give context to this whole situation. He definitely was fixated
- 37:36Speaker 1: with Isla and Jorgensen to a certain degree. How much
- 37:41Speaker 1: we don't know, but I get like trying to make
- 37:44Speaker 1: those parallels. So, wearing a suit of human skin, he
- 37:47Speaker 1: describes his obsession with Christine disturbed but compassionate. It tells
- 37:52Speaker 1: him he's not transgender but guynophilic, which is being sensually
- 37:57Speaker 1: fixated on female anatomy. And this was never a thing.
- 38:01Speaker 1: This was never a diagnosis that Ed got. The show
- 38:06Speaker 1: or Ryan Murphy specifically, just didn't want to connect transgenderism
- 38:10Speaker 1: and geinnophilichism to get He wanted to make sure that
- 38:15Speaker 1: that was separate, which why even say it in the
- 38:18Speaker 1: first place. If you're just gonna make stuff up, it's weird.
- 38:21Speaker 1: I don't really get it. Just let it be what
- 38:24Speaker 1: it is. It's a guy wearing freaking skin suits. We
- 38:27Speaker 1: don't need a diagnosis for that. We got it. It's schizophrenia,
- 38:30Speaker 1: So it was weird. I don't think it was necessary
- 38:33Speaker 1: at all. It adds delusions escalate when the head nurse
- 38:36Speaker 1: Roz cuts his privileges and the attacks her with a
- 38:38Speaker 1: chainsaw one night, but she's perfectly fine the next morning.
- 38:41Speaker 1: They do this as I'm assuming homage to Texas chainsaw Massacre,
- 38:45Speaker 1: but I think it's just for the shock value, gore value,
- 38:49Speaker 1: obviously not needed at all. And then panicked Ed confesses
- 38:53Speaker 1: to the doctor, who delivers crushing truth that the radios
- 38:56Speaker 1: never worked. Is lun Christine were voices in his head
- 39:00Speaker 1: and he's diagnosed with schizophrenia, and Ed learns the voices
- 39:03Speaker 1: that drove him to rob graves and kill came from
- 39:05Speaker 1: untreated mental illness, which you know most likely he always
- 39:12Speaker 1: said that it was his mother mostly in his head
- 39:15Speaker 1: all the time. Couldn't have been them. Sure, it's definitely creative.
- 39:19Speaker 1: Liberties being taken, but the whole show is so I
- 39:22Speaker 1: just like I'm tired at this point. The episode ends
- 39:24Speaker 1: tenderly as the doctor promises medication to quiet the voices
- 39:27Speaker 1: and ed sobs, hugs Roz and takes his first pill,
- 39:30Speaker 1: which is a moment a piece after a lifetime of mets. Oh,
- 39:33Speaker 1: we have sympathy for him now, a guy that butchered
- 39:37Speaker 1: human beings, classic Ryan Murphy, and that brings us to
- 39:41Speaker 1: episode eight, The Good Fuck. The conclusion advances toward the
- 39:45Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, depicting Edgieing, currently medicated and controlled within Wisconsin'
- 39:51Speaker 1: psychiatric care, becoming an unwilling investigative asset while approaching death
- 39:56Speaker 1: because he was very sick at this point and opening
- 39:58Speaker 1: distant from Wisconsin, Venting disturbing Washington state events, which was
- 40:03Speaker 1: an apparently supportive individual entices two females into transportation, renders
- 40:08Speaker 1: one unconscious, and restrains both, and the identity reveals Ted Bundy.
- 40:13Speaker 1: Oh he's another crazy killer. I bet Ryan Murphy's gonna
- 40:16Speaker 1: butcher that story as well. Oh Man already intensifying his
- 40:22Speaker 1: predatory offenses and his violations and posthumous degradation parallel ads history.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Oh they connect. They connect murderers across periods. Following FBI
- 40:33Speaker 1: pursuit and Bundy, investigators initially seek understanding from confined serial
- 40:38Speaker 1: killer Jerry Brudos, receiving minimal assistance. Shout out to mind Hunter,
- 40:43Speaker 1: who's actually accurate in their portrayal? WHOA, that's crazy? How
- 40:48Speaker 1: you could actually be accurate and still have a good
- 40:51Speaker 1: show and honor the victims? That's what that's crazy. And
- 40:55Speaker 1: recalling earlier consultations, authorities approach and Geeness, suspecting his degradation,
- 41:01Speaker 1: knowledge might enhance psychological analysis, and Ed cooperates in the show,
- 41:07Speaker 1: appearing coherent through pharmaceutical intervention and through analytical yet troubling discussion.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Ed examines crime documentation, observing and specific tools offering practical
- 41:18Speaker 1: though gruesome intelligence for tracking Bundy's implements and his disconnected
- 41:22Speaker 1: evaluation remains unsettling yet so valuable. All of that's fame.
- 41:28Speaker 1: The FBI at one point came to Edgeen to talk
- 41:31Speaker 1: about him in general, not at all about Ted Bundy,
- 41:34Speaker 1: and he literally gave them no information because he was
- 41:37Speaker 1: so hopped up on drugs and so far gone in
- 41:41Speaker 1: his health declining. They got nothing from Ed Geen, so
- 41:45Speaker 1: they did do an interview with him, not about Ted Bundy,
- 41:48Speaker 1: and they got nothing from him at all because he
- 41:50Speaker 1: was so incoherent. So just light that shit up, give
- 41:55Speaker 1: me like five falses, just absolutely insane and non necessary. Again,
- 42:00Speaker 1: just like making shit up for no reason, just for
- 42:04Speaker 1: the audience to be like, what that really happened? It didn't.
- 42:08Speaker 1: The episode depicts ED collecting Bundy coverage, subsequently systemically developing
- 42:13Speaker 1: personal assessments, and additionally introduced is murderer Richard Speck, who
- 42:18Speaker 1: worships ED through correspondence that never happened either. Ed never
- 42:23Speaker 1: talked to other serial killers. It's all made up. Certain
- 42:27Speaker 1: letters describe admirers organizing comparable collegiate attacks in Florida, and
- 42:31Speaker 1: Ed discreetly provides authorities this intelligence, facilitating identification, ultimately enabling
- 42:37Speaker 1: Bundy's capture. All fake, all false, not real. Light that
- 42:41Speaker 1: shit up again, all false, and the time progresses and
- 42:44Speaker 1: ads institutional companion Attendant RODS provides a terminal diagnosis advanced
- 42:49Speaker 1: pulmonary malignancy without treatment options. So during physical decline, ED
- 42:54Speaker 1: encounters an unanticipated guest, which is Adeline, and their exchange
- 42:58Speaker 1: proves emotionally devastating. Never happened by the way Ed expresses
- 43:02Speaker 1: pain regarding her absence, and Adeline admits personal psychological struggle,
- 43:06Speaker 1: maintaining violent impulses. She resists executing false never happened, and
- 43:11Speaker 1: he recommends pharmaceutical intervention, but she declines regardless. He professes
- 43:17Speaker 1: affection never happened. He didn't care about women. He actually
- 43:20Speaker 1: there's a quote of him saying he doesn't care about women,
- 43:22Speaker 1: and Ed expires shortly following peacefully departing institutionally, and the
- 43:27Speaker 1: program concludes. Through dreamlike self referential elements. An adolescent Steel
- 43:32Speaker 1: adds memorial marker which did happen? A very uncommon fact,
- 43:36Speaker 1: encountering fictional creatures like Norman Bates, Buffalo Bill, and leather
- 43:40Speaker 1: Face figures originating from Gene's actual atrocities. And then finally
- 43:45Speaker 1: Ed appears tranquility seated alongside Augusta, who states only mothers
- 43:50Speaker 1: could love you, and Ed Grinn's slightly presenting audiences with
- 43:53Speaker 1: his sermon combination of sorrow and fear because we have
- 43:57Speaker 1: to feel something. We have to feel something for Hunky Charlie,
- 44:02Speaker 1: what's his face? And ed Gean the guy who ripped
- 44:06Speaker 1: apart innocent people in their graves and living human beings
- 44:10Speaker 1: who butchered them like animals. Oh, we gotta feel something.
- 44:14Speaker 1: What the fun? But yeah, the whole show was just
- 44:17Speaker 1: extremely frustrating. Again, I've said it so many times, but
- 44:21Speaker 1: if you're making a show about a real person and
- 44:23Speaker 1: real victims, I think there should be a just a
- 44:26Speaker 1: finite limit of creative liberties you're allowed to take. And
- 44:30Speaker 1: there are some that I think are okay. You know,
- 44:33Speaker 1: with showing that he's schizophrenic and he might be hearing
- 44:36Speaker 1: voices in his head, that he might be hearing his
- 44:38Speaker 1: mother and his head fut you know he said that
- 44:40Speaker 1: that was the case. You know that he was always
- 44:42Speaker 1: doing it for his mother. But like making up actual
- 44:45Speaker 1: crimes that happened and defaming human beings who are now
- 44:50Speaker 1: deceased and can't defend themselves for creative liberties is disgusting
- 44:56Speaker 1: and I don't like it. I don't like it. But
- 44:59Speaker 1: Ryan Furphy is undeniably okay, let's start with this. He's
- 45:03Speaker 1: undeniably a talented storyteller who has created some of television's
- 45:08Speaker 1: most compelling dramas. But there's a disturbing pattern that runs
- 45:12Speaker 1: through his true crime work, and it's a consistent tendency
- 45:15Speaker 1: to transform real killers into romantic anti heroes while the
- 45:21Speaker 1: actual victims just fade into the background or their stories
- 45:25Speaker 1: are just completely made up and they're just absolutely just
- 45:29Speaker 1: shit on. And his pattern all started with American horror
- 45:32Speaker 1: story with Murder House, where Murphy created Tate Langdon, and
- 45:36Speaker 1: to his defense, this was made up technically. This is
- 45:40Speaker 1: like the Psycho, where he took things from other events
- 45:42Speaker 1: that happened, and he at least made up a character.
- 45:45Speaker 1: But it starts with Tate Langdon, a character directly inspired
- 45:49Speaker 1: by the Columbine Shooters, which is horrifying, and turned him
- 45:53Speaker 1: into a tragic romantic lead played by Evan Peters who's
- 45:58Speaker 1: a great actor. But it's just disturbing. And for those
- 46:01Speaker 1: of you who don't know, American high school seniors and
- 46:04Speaker 1: mass murder duo who perpetrated the massacre at Columbine High
- 46:08Speaker 1: School on April twentieth, nineteen ninety nine in Columbine, Colorado,
- 46:12Speaker 1: killed thirteen students and one teacher and wounded twenty three others.
- 46:17Speaker 1: So he saw that and he's like, I should make
- 46:19Speaker 1: a character based off of that. That's great, and also
- 46:21Speaker 1: make him romanticized and loved and listen. I watched I
- 46:26Speaker 1: watched American Horsetra. I've watched it before, and I was
- 46:28Speaker 1: absolutely one of those people who's like, oh, he's just misunderstood.
- 46:32Speaker 1: He's a good guy, you know. Who cares that he's
- 46:34Speaker 1: shot up a school and did all those bad things.
- 46:36Speaker 1: Who cares? But now that I'm getting older and I've
- 46:39Speaker 1: like taken the time to, you know, meet victims, talk
- 46:43Speaker 1: to victims, be a victim myself in a certain way.
- 46:47Speaker 1: It's so tone deaf, and I think there is a
- 46:50Speaker 1: way to do it. I think there's a way to
- 46:52Speaker 1: do it in just making them the monster. Where you
- 46:54Speaker 1: see Texas James, I'mscer and Psycho and Patrick Bateman, they're
- 46:58Speaker 1: clearly the monster. They're clearly evil. But this like weird
- 47:01Speaker 1: need to make it romantic is like always Ryan Murphy's
- 47:05Speaker 1: m because the show positioned Tate as like a tortured
- 47:08Speaker 1: soul worthy of love and redemption, complete with a ghost
- 47:12Speaker 1: romance subplot. And this was just our first warning sign
- 47:16Speaker 1: of Murphy's troubling fascination with making monsters sympathetic, and the
- 47:21Speaker 1: pattern just escalated with Dahmer, where Murphy cast Evan Peters again,
- 47:25Speaker 1: and this time as Jeffrey Dahmer, and despite Murphy's insistence
- 47:29Speaker 1: that the show wouldn't sympathize with Dahmer or be told
- 47:32Speaker 1: from his perspective, the series repeatedly flashback to Dahmer's lonely childhood,
- 47:38Speaker 1: with his struggles with his parents divorce and his isolation.
- 47:42Speaker 1: And you know, I get like, it's important to the story.
- 47:45Speaker 1: You need to know who this person is and where
- 47:46Speaker 1: it came from. That's always why I do people's lives
- 47:49Speaker 1: in chronological order and build up, because it's important to know.
- 47:52Speaker 1: But it's like the way in which you choose to
- 47:55Speaker 1: do that, Well, he's killing someone and mutilating them and
- 47:59Speaker 1: injecting their head with acid. You can't just go back to, well,
- 48:03Speaker 1: he was a little kid who got left home alone
- 48:05Speaker 1: a lot. Who fucking cares? He's a monster dude with
- 48:09Speaker 1: The show inadvertently or perhaps deliberately created empathy for a
- 48:13Speaker 1: man who murdered and dismembered seventeen people, and the result
- 48:18Speaker 1: was TikTok fan edits making Dahmer look mysterious and alluring,
- 48:23Speaker 1: and Twitter users thirsting over the actual mugshot of Jeffrey Dahmer,
- 48:28Speaker 1: and viewers explicitly saying the show made them feel sorry
- 48:31Speaker 1: for the real Dahmer. And if you haven't already watched
- 48:34Speaker 1: this video on Jeffrey Dahmer, Dahmer drugged, killed, and then
- 48:37Speaker 1: had relations with corpses before dispring them and eating them
- 48:42Speaker 1: and kept trophies of his victims in his apartment to
- 48:46Speaker 1: yack off to later. What a catch, right, And then
- 48:49Speaker 1: with monsters the Menendez brothers, Murphy cast conventionally attractive actors, which,
- 48:54Speaker 1: to be fair, they looked kind of similar to the
- 48:56Speaker 1: real guys, So whatever, Nicholas Chavez and Cooper and set
- 49:00Speaker 1: dramatic scenes to catch the eighties music and focus more
- 49:03Speaker 1: on making the brothers look cool in their period perfect outfits,
- 49:08Speaker 1: then on accurately depicting the abit they claimed to have suffered.
- 49:12Speaker 1: And yes, there are episodes in which the Courtroom it
- 49:15Speaker 1: is word for word, and I do appreciate that, but
- 49:18Speaker 1: it focused way more on stylization than what actually happened.
- 49:24Speaker 1: And as one student actually noted, the Menendez brothers went
- 49:27Speaker 1: through so much in their life and the show barely
- 49:30Speaker 1: cared to mention it. And even the Menandaz brothers themselves
- 49:34Speaker 1: said that the show was repulsive, that it was terrible.
- 49:37Speaker 1: But the new low is with Monster, the Edkeen story,
- 49:40Speaker 1: as we have heard already, and that's that Murphy's approach
- 49:43Speaker 1: reaches its most ogregious extreme. The series doesn't just embellish,
- 49:49Speaker 1: it completely fabricates major plot points in history, with inventing
- 49:55Speaker 1: murders in the case of Evelyn Hartley, with liized Violet,
- 50:00Speaker 1: with the Natilia scenes that never happened, and just the
- 50:05Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know how many folces we had,
- 50:07Speaker 1: but like I'm going to assume it's well over fifty
- 50:09Speaker 1: percent of just not true, not true things. It's crazy,
- 50:15Speaker 1: but I really do think Ryan Murphy is a genius
- 50:18Speaker 1: who has become just insidious because he knows exactly who
- 50:23Speaker 1: his audience is and what they respond to. The research
- 50:26Speaker 1: shows that true crime podcasts have seventy three percent female audience. Obviously,
- 50:31Speaker 1: hey queens, I know it's me too, okay, and women
- 50:34Speaker 1: are primary consumers of both true crime and shipping fiction,
- 50:38Speaker 1: the kind of romanticized, often sized fan content that imagines
- 50:43Speaker 1: relationships between characters. I'm not saying that's you. I think
- 50:46Speaker 1: the people that watch this channel very much know that
- 50:48Speaker 1: these people are horrifying, just wastes of oxygen. But there
- 50:52Speaker 1: are a lot of you know, people that just romanticize
- 50:56Speaker 1: the idea of being with these people. And Ryan Murphy
- 50:58Speaker 1: capitalizes on that, and he deliberately exploits this by casting attractive,
- 51:04Speaker 1: like overly attractive actors like Charlie Hunham and Evan Peters
- 51:08Speaker 1: and Cooper Cock. And to be fair, they do look
- 51:11Speaker 1: similar to these people, but the fact that they're always
- 51:14Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, like twenty thirty forty percent
- 51:16Speaker 1: more attractive. It's that's Hollywood. You know, that's Hollywood. And
- 51:21Speaker 1: you know what is he supposed to do? You know,
- 51:22Speaker 1: cast somebody who looks like them, but like slightly uglier
- 51:26Speaker 1: or something like that, like whatever. But the biggest thing
- 51:29Speaker 1: is creating these completely false romantic subplots that never existed
- 51:35Speaker 1: and adding this settension and homoerotic undertones like the Menenda's
- 51:40Speaker 1: brothers implied incest, which is what why why are you
- 51:45Speaker 1: doing that? Focusing on the killer's emotional backstories rather than
- 51:49Speaker 1: the victims suffering, And as Saram didim notes in unheard quote,
- 51:55Speaker 1: Murphy understands what people want to see. Monster brings together
- 51:59Speaker 1: the sensibility of horror story. Watch these hot brothers kiss
- 52:04Speaker 1: with the truth telling pretensions of crime story unquote, and
- 52:08Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more as like the way more Well
- 52:11Speaker 1: said that, I said it. The psychology behind women's fascination
- 52:14Speaker 1: with violent men is complex. Some argue it's about understanding
- 52:18Speaker 1: potential threats, which I can sympathize with, especially being a
- 52:23Speaker 1: victim of those kinds of things, and others suggest it's
- 52:26Speaker 1: about the fantasy of taming dangerous men. But whatever the reason,
- 52:30Speaker 1: Murphy cynically leverages this fascination to create what amounts to
- 52:35Speaker 1: true crime fan fiction, taking real murders and transforming them
- 52:39Speaker 1: into secized entertainment. And when he defends his shows by saying, quote,
- 52:45Speaker 1: we show many, many many perspectives unquote, or claims he's
- 52:49Speaker 1: teaching controversy, he's hiding behind artistic license to justify exploitation.
- 52:56Speaker 1: And that's my biggest problem, because there are real costs
- 53:00Speaker 1: to these creative liberties. One and the most major one
- 53:05Speaker 1: is retraumatizing victims' families. For example, the families of Dahmer's
- 53:11Speaker 1: victims called the Series of Dahmer, Ryan Murphy's Dahmer, retraumatizing
- 53:17Speaker 1: over and over again. Who's the real monster? I think
- 53:20Speaker 1: it's Ryan Murphy and the Menendez family called their portrayal repulsive,
- 53:25Speaker 1: which I already mentioned, and the second being spreading blatant misinformation,
- 53:30Speaker 1: because there's some viewers that watch these shows that believe
- 53:32Speaker 1: they're based on true events and come away with completely
- 53:36Speaker 1: false information. They think ed Gean really, you know, had
- 53:40Speaker 1: relations with dead bodies, or that he actually killed Evelyn
- 53:44Speaker 1: and all this bullshit and he actually helped catch Ted
- 53:47Speaker 1: Bundy and had a murderous girlfriend, all false and all
- 53:51Speaker 1: like the main plot points of this entire show. And
- 53:55Speaker 1: then there's glorifying violence unnecessarily by making killer attractive, sympathetic,
- 54:01Speaker 1: and even romantic, and Murphy shows just contribute to the
- 54:05Speaker 1: culture that turns murderers into celebrities. The fan edits, the
- 54:09Speaker 1: thirsting tweets, the romanticization. Murphy doesn't just predict this response,
- 54:13Speaker 1: he deliberately cultivates it. But there is something we need
- 54:17Speaker 1: to establish now, and that is that there's a massive
- 54:21Speaker 1: ethical difference between thirsting over Dexter Morgan and you know,
- 54:27Speaker 1: thirsting over Jeffrey Dahmer, and one is a fictional character
- 54:32Speaker 1: and the other murdered seventeen real people with real families
- 54:37Speaker 1: who are still grieving because when we watch fictional killers
- 54:41Speaker 1: like Dexter Morgan, Joe Goldberg from You, or Patrick Bateman,
- 54:44Speaker 1: we're engaging with fantasy. These characters exist solely for our entertainment.
- 54:50Speaker 1: No real person died, no actual mother lost her actual son,
- 54:56Speaker 1: no family has to see their loved one's death turned
- 54:59Speaker 1: into a Netflix binge session, and we can explore dark themes,
- 55:04Speaker 1: examine the psychology of violence, even find these characters compelling
- 55:08Speaker 1: because they're not real. But when Ryan Murphy takes ed Geen,
- 55:13Speaker 1: a man who skinned actual women, who destroyed real families,
- 55:18Speaker 1: and gives him the Charlie Hunham treatment, complete with moody
- 55:22Speaker 1: lighting and fictional romance subplot, he's not creating entertainment. In
- 55:26Speaker 1: my opinion, He's just rewriting history to fit his fucked up,
- 55:32Speaker 1: romanticized narrative. And you can think about it this way.
- 55:35Speaker 1: When Anthony Hopkins plays Hannibal Lecter, he's bringing a fictional
- 55:40Speaker 1: monster to life, But when Evan Peters plays Jeffrey Dahmer,
- 55:44Speaker 1: he's bringing a real monster back to life. And again,
- 55:48Speaker 1: I'm not blaming the actors for this necessarily, It's just
- 55:52Speaker 1: I feel like we don't think about this enough, and
- 55:54Speaker 1: I think about it way too much. Probably I'm making
- 55:56Speaker 1: this video and probably people are like, oh, you're thinking
- 55:59Speaker 1: too much into it and all this stuff. It's like
- 56:01Speaker 1: when your life, My life like revolves around this lately.
- 56:04Speaker 1: I mean, I come up with a new video every week,
- 56:07Speaker 1: Like I'm looking into the stuff on a daily basis.
- 56:10Speaker 1: I get less desensitized. I feel more empathy than ever.
- 56:14Speaker 1: And so watching shows like this that just defame and
- 56:19Speaker 1: embarrass and belittle victims, it's just it's sick. And when
- 56:25Speaker 1: you bring these real monsters back to life and aren't
- 56:28Speaker 1: honest about who they really were and what their stories
- 56:31Speaker 1: really were and what the victims actually went through. One
- 56:35Speaker 1: whose victims' families have to relive their trauma every time
- 56:39Speaker 1: someone makes another TikTok edit set to a Blana del
- 56:43Speaker 1: Reys song. It's just it's just it's disheartening to think about.
- 56:48Speaker 1: The problem. Isn't that we're fascinated by darkness. That's just
- 56:52Speaker 1: human nature. There's a reason why I do so much
- 56:54Speaker 1: true crime and why we're so fascinated by it. I
- 56:57Speaker 1: think it just makes sense. The problem is when Creed
- 57:00Speaker 1: deliberately blur the line between fiction and reality using the
- 57:03Speaker 1: same cinematography, the same attractive casting, the same romantic framing
- 57:08Speaker 1: for both invented killers and actual murderers. Brian Murphy is
- 57:13Speaker 1: training audiences to see no difference between a character and
- 57:16Speaker 1: a criminal, and that's not art, that's just exploitation wearing
- 57:20Speaker 1: designer clothes. So in general, and since Netflix Green Linit,
- 57:25Speaker 1: I'm putting them into this thing. But you know, their
- 57:28Speaker 1: work represents the worst of true crime entertainment, prioritizing the
- 57:33Speaker 1: killers over their victims, fantasy over fact, and profit over people.
- 57:37Speaker 1: And they've proven they can make compelling television. But the
- 57:41Speaker 1: question is whether he or they can or will ever
- 57:45Speaker 1: make ethical television when it comes to portraying real life violence.
- 57:51Speaker 1: I don't know. And to be fair, there are plenty
- 57:54Speaker 1: of good shows, even Netflix original shows that do a
- 57:58Speaker 1: pretty good job of this, the being mind Hunter. They
- 58:01Speaker 1: they take creative liberties, but they don't absolutely shit on
- 58:05Speaker 1: the truth like like Ryan Murphy loves to. And there's
- 58:09Speaker 1: plenty of documentaries that of course have kind of kind
- 58:12Speaker 1: of paint their own narrative, but they don't stray from
- 58:15Speaker 1: the actual truth. It's all fact in there. So I'm
- 58:18Speaker 1: good with that, you know. I like to learn about
- 58:20Speaker 1: that stuff, and and you know it has you know,
- 58:23Speaker 1: testimony from the actual victims happening, and it's just yeah,
- 58:27Speaker 1: that whole that whole time watching it, I just felt
- 58:31Speaker 1: sick and disappointed and just angry. I felt angry and
- 58:36Speaker 1: I don't even have anything to do with this, and
- 58:39Speaker 1: you know, feel free to disagree with me in the comments.
- 58:41Speaker 1: I know that I'm a bit passionate about this kind
- 58:44Speaker 1: of stuff, but I think that's good. I think we
- 58:47Speaker 1: need compassion and we shouldn't. I mean, it's just another
- 58:50Speaker 1: thing where we shouldn't believe everything we see. You should
- 58:52Speaker 1: always research it yourself. But if I have to google,
- 58:56Speaker 1: you know, every two minutes of a show, if it's
- 58:59Speaker 1: actually true, and most of it's not, I don't think
- 59:02Speaker 1: it's a good show, especially if it's based off of
- 59:04Speaker 1: a real killer and real victims and all that kind
- 59:07Speaker 1: of stuff. So what do I know, though, I'm just
- 59:09Speaker 1: a YouTuber anyway, really fun Saturday video. But I love
- 59:14Speaker 1: true crime. I love true crime. I think it's absolutely fascinating.
- 59:18Speaker 1: I think the dark things of the world are so
- 59:20Speaker 1: fascinating because they're possible and because it's scary, also because
- 59:26Speaker 1: it's real. It's real and these are real people, and
- 59:30Speaker 1: I think it's horrible. And I do like highlighting the
- 59:32Speaker 1: fact that there are real life monsters out there who
- 59:35Speaker 1: do real life things to real life people and there's
- 59:38Speaker 1: consequences from that. And if there's anything I can do
- 59:42Speaker 1: to give back to people that have gone through that
- 59:44Speaker 1: or going through that, I will do that and I
- 59:47Speaker 1: will continue to do that. But I don't think there's
- 59:49Speaker 1: anything wrong with liking true crime, obviously, but I think
- 59:53Speaker 1: the way it's portrayed in media, oftentimes oftentimes with Ryan Murphy,
- 59:58Speaker 1: it's just too much any creative liberties. I think sticking
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: to the truth is enough. I don't think you need
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: to make stuff up in a world that's already full
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: of pure darkness personally, But what do I know anyway,