Latest / First Thing Today with Joe Thomas / Terrorism then (09/11/01) and now (09/10/25) (Thursday September 11, 2025, Hour 1)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: That America eleven trying to call. We have to play
- 0:05that one day, wie, I need be Okay, we are
- 0:08running today aboard the pirate.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Everyone can gap.
- 0:11Speaker 3: They're in the fact that they are playing.
- 0:12Speaker 4: They're not.
- 0:14Speaker 5: The hijacker.
- 0:14Speaker 2: They're in the cock pit home today. By Joe Thomas
- 0:19on the Talk Media Network.
- 0:23Speaker 6: I know you know.
- 0:27Speaker 7: Not to phone down to us.
- 0:38Speaker 8: We've got to get signed for the kills.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Let's go terrorism in America.
- 0:55Speaker 9: Okay, we did what connection.
- 1:08Speaker 2: This is CNN breaking News.
- 1:11Speaker 10: This justin.
- 1:12Speaker 11: You were looking at obviously a very disturbing liveshot there.
- 1:15That is the World Trade Center, and we have unconfirmed
- 1:18reports this morning that a plane has crashed into one
- 1:21of the towers of the World Trade Center.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I was on the air at that moment. I was
- 1:28on the air WTSS in Buffalo, New York, and the
- 1:34conversation began with my news person and my co host
- 1:39that it was an accidental plane flying. And I made
- 1:43this point, having grown up in New York too much, No,
- 1:47that's not an accident. That's a restricted no fly zone
- 1:50around Manhattan nowhere planes would be anywhere near there. But
- 1:56the story continued that it was an accidental small plane
- 2:00that flew into the World Trade Center accidentally got off
- 2:03course into But if you've ever flown into New York,
- 2:08even before September eleventh, there's no flight pattern that goes
- 2:12anywhere near there. But terrorism, terrorism became something more than
- 2:19just an abject theory to Americans on that day twenty
- 2:23four years ago, and again yesterday, when a terrorist did
- 2:34what terrorists do. Terrorists use our fears and the things
- 2:47that we hold dear as weapons against us in order
- 2:53to get us to stop being who we are. It's
- 2:59the nature of terrorism. You make people who you hate
- 3:08stop being what you hate because you cannot stand their existence.
- 3:18So therefore you must make them stop being who they are.
- 3:26And the terrorists, mark my words, no differently at Utah
- 3:31Valley University yesterday on the roof, and just like the
- 3:37airport's security in New Hampshire that allowed Mohammad ata to
- 3:41get behind security at Logan International, there are things that
- 3:46went very wrong at Utah Valley University that allowed the
- 3:51terrorists to get under the roof. And again we find
- 3:55ourselves facing the challenge of keeping true to who we
- 3:59are in the face of fear. On first thing today,
- 4:05we must have our first things, and we begin with
- 4:08the President.
- 4:08Speaker 10: To my great fellow Americans, I am filled with grief
- 4:11and anger at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk on
- 4:15a college campus in Utah. Charlie inspired millions, and tonight
- 4:21all who knew him and loved him are united.
- 4:24Speaker 12: In shock and horror.
- 4:26Speaker 10: Charlie was a patriot who devoted his life to the
- 4:30cause of open debate and the country that he loved
- 4:34so much, the United States of America. He fought for liberty, democracy, justice,
- 4:39and the American people. He's a martyr for truth and freedom.
- 4:44And there has never been anyone who was so respected
- 4:47by youth.
- 4:48Speaker 2: I had someone that lived in the public eye. Of course,
- 4:52Charlie Kirk's last moments were streamed live to many on
- 4:56the Internet, much like that fateful day on September eleventh,
- 5:00two thousand and one, who as America all tuned to
- 5:04see the first plane that it hit the aftermath watched
- 5:08live as the second plane flew into the World Trade
- 5:12Center South Tower at Utah Valley University. A man in
- 5:18a gray shirt had just asked the radio show host
- 5:21and founder of Turning Point USA, quote, do you know
- 5:25how many mass shooters there have been in America over
- 5:28the last ten years, Kirk replied, counting or not counting
- 5:33gang violence, and that was the moment the assassin's bullet struck.
- 5:38Turning Point USA has posted an official statement following the
- 5:41assassination of their founder. Quote, is what a heavy heart
- 5:46that we confirmed that Charles James Kirk has been murdered
- 5:49by a gunshot that took place during Turning Point USA's
- 5:52the American Comeback Tour campus event at Utah Valley University.
- 5:58May he be received in to the mercipul arms of
- 6:02our loving Savior who suffered and died for Charlie. We
- 6:06ask that everyone keep his family and loved ones in
- 6:09their prayers. We asked that you please respect their privacy
- 6:13and dignity at this time. Today is the twenty fourth
- 6:18anniversary of the September eleventh terrorist attacks, and polling from
- 6:22the Miltglonklin and Associates Group says that American voters surveyed
- 6:28nationwide show that eighty three percent believed that every school
- 6:32in America should be required to teach students about the
- 6:35September eleventh attacks, specifically identifying the perpetrators as radical Islamists.
- 6:45Those are our first things On this September eleventh, twenty
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- 11:00Speaker 15: Bruh, that's buzzed.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's starting with the woots.
- 11:05Speaker 15: And now a speech.
- 11:06Speaker 4: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
- 11:10heart and brain.
- 11:12Speaker 5: Who's with me?
- 11:13Speaker 15: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed.
- 11:15Speaker 7: And my brain is saying when it's time to go home.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Somebody call me a ride.
- 11:19Speaker 5: Love that guy, Me too, know your buzzed warning signs,
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- 13:10Speaker 2: About making mornings great again.
- 13:14Speaker 12: First thing today on the Talk Media Edward by Joe Thomas.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Sadly sometimes they're not even all that far out there,
- 13:29and they're not anymore. That's the bigger problem to stand
- 13:34in front of you and do it. But we can
- 13:41hear them, and we can see them anarchy and then
- 13:49the totalitarianism that will come to them. Do you want
- 13:57to hear what the lunatic fringe sounds like?
- 14:00Speaker 13: Prayer?
- 14:00Speaker 2: Right after this?
- 14:01Speaker 16: Okay, the charelays before the House of Communication, the House.
- 14:10Speaker 12: Will be in order.
- 14:20Speaker 2: These are your representatives, thank you all.
- 14:23Speaker 4: The house will be in order to chair lads for
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- 14:27Speaker 17: Speaker, House of Representative, Sir, I have the honor to
- 14:31transmit here where they copy of a letter received from
- 14:34as D. J. Grigor, Director of Operations with a Virginia
- 14:39Department of Elections indicating that according to.
- 14:42Speaker 2: The end and then it went into regular business, that
- 14:46was the devolution of the House at the mere suggestion
- 14:52of a moment of silence for the assassination of someone
- 14:57who many of their younger constituents and hold to be
- 15:01a hero, somebody who in the face of an indoctrination
- 15:12culture that's designed to punish sadly discordant thought on campuses
- 15:27that were designed to be the place where that free
- 15:31thought was taught, encouraged, rewarded. The University of Virginia founded
- 15:41by Thomas Jefferson himself for the simple idea that the
- 15:48average American should have access to higher education than Amongst
- 15:53that education be the education of how to think critically.
- 16:00And that's what the terrorists want now. The terrorists want
- 16:08us to stop thinking critically. If you follow me on
- 16:17social media, you've seen many of my posts since yesterday afternoon.
- 16:21I was in meetings at three o'clock when this all happened.
- 16:26It was just shortly afternoon, I guess it was two
- 16:28o'clock Eastern when it began. When the shooting happened twenty
- 16:35four years ago, I was, as I said, sitting there,
- 16:39just ironically, having just finished an interview with an author
- 16:43of a book about the glass ceiling that reported that
- 16:47amongst some of the worst glass ceilings in America, Canter Fitzgerald.
- 16:58I still have the cassette that was recorded of that show,
- 17:03go back to it everything. That's just one of those
- 17:06weird things. Not an hour before the first plane ostensibly
- 17:13landed on Candor and Fitzgerald's floors at the World Trade Center,
- 17:18we had been on the air in Buffalo, New York,
- 17:20talking to an author of a book who had said,
- 17:22among American companies, Caunter Fitzgerald was one of the worst,
- 17:26And I said, who are they? I'm very nerd of them,
- 17:34and at your service. I fight the inclination to grow.
- 17:43Speaker 18: Cold.
- 17:48Speaker 2: This isn't the first morning I've had to come on
- 17:51the air like this, I said. I was there as
- 17:55it happened September eleventh, two thousand and one, watched it unfold,
- 18:01came back on the air after round the clock news coverage.
- 18:05A few weeks later, my partner and I, because we
- 18:07were music hosts, were asked by the news department to
- 18:11go out and do man on the street stuff and
- 18:16was struck by the amount of anti Muslim hatred there
- 18:24was your humble host. If you listen for five seconds
- 18:28of this program, you won't be surprised that when confronted
- 18:31with some of that, I said, you realize that the
- 18:33worst terrorists prior to September one, two thousand and one,
- 18:37was from Buffalo. Timothy McVeigh, Timothy mcvay's father, called me
- 18:45after that broadcast that hits you. Now, you didn't call
- 18:51me to complain because I didn't a sale him or
- 18:57anything more than to point out that if we're going
- 18:59to go and round up all the Muslims because Mohammad
- 19:03Atta and Osama bin Laden hated America and the concept
- 19:13that we would allow Israel to exist. I faced mornings
- 19:19like this August fourteenth, twenty seventeen, dead bodies of state
- 19:27troopers and political activists who I had even met shared
- 19:32an office building with the radio station I was on.
- 19:37But I had five oh six was going to arrive
- 19:41eastern daylight time, whether I was ready for it or not.
- 19:44And I had a responsibility to you to get your
- 19:48day started and to get your day started with the perspective.
- 19:56And I said on August fourteenth, at six am, still
- 20:03trying to grapple with what had transpired in my hometown,
- 20:07the hometown of Thomas Jefferson, as terrorists masquerading as conservatives,
- 20:19for whom truly the only time I felt fearful for
- 20:26my life was in the face of the folks who
- 20:29pretended to be conservatives in Charlottesville that day, who used
- 20:35threats and aggression to try to force me to let
- 20:38them on my radio program when I disagreed wholeheartedly with
- 20:42the dumpster fire they were trying to start. And I
- 20:45disagree with terrorism, and I wasn't going to promote it.
- 20:51And I worked with a security company to become situationally aware.
- 20:55So I grew up in New York, and you know,
- 20:57and to be fair, when they started teaching me to
- 21:00be situationally aware, there was a lot of stuff I
- 21:03already knew, dark parking lots and how to be aware
- 21:08of the exploits and places people can be hiding. But
- 21:15as these days add up and we do more and
- 21:18more of these days, it redoubles my belief that the
- 21:25only way the terrorists, whether it be this single terrorist
- 21:29on the roof at Utah Valley University or the eleven
- 21:32that took over the airplanes twenty four years ago, the
- 21:37only way they win is if we change ourselves to
- 21:41become more like them, Because they hate us for what
- 21:45we believe in, They hate us for having conversations. They
- 21:49hate Charlie Kirk because he would engage them with debate
- 21:53and wouldn't shout them down, said tell me. As a
- 21:55matter of fact, his tour was called prove me wrong.
- 21:59They couldn't take.
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- 24:36has antioxidant properties, and research suggests that kurcumin can prevent
- 24:41cancer or at least slow the spread of cancer, and
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- 25:02Speaker 13: I'm Andrew Saul, Commission of Self Security. I'm here to
- 25:05warn you about telephone scammers pretending to be government employees.
- 25:10Some of these scammers may say threatening things like you
- 25:13will be arrested if you don't make payments or provide
- 25:16personal information. Do not fall for these tricks. These calls
- 25:21are not from US. Real solid security employees will never
- 25:25threaten you for information or money. If you receive a
- 25:29call like this, hang up. Never give the call of
- 25:33your personal information like your solid security number or bank account,
- 25:37or send money in any form cash, gift cards, wire transfers,
- 25:42or prepaid debit cards. Report the call to our law
- 25:46enforcement on the Office of the Inspector General at OIG
- 25:51dot SSA dot gov.
- 25:55Speaker 19: Uh oh bra, that's buzzed.
- 25:56Speaker 15: Oh yeah yeah.
- 25:57Speaker 2: He's starting with the woots.
- 26:00Speaker 15: And now a speech.
- 26:02Speaker 7: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
- 26:06art and brain.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Who's with me?
- 26:08Speaker 20: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed and my
- 26:11brain is saying, when it's time to go home, Somebody.
- 26:13Speaker 12: Call me a ride.
- 26:15Speaker 19: Love that guy, me too.
- 26:16Speaker 5: Know your buzzed warning signs, call for a ride when
- 26:19it's time to go home. Buzz driving is drunk driving.
- 26:23Did you know that more than half our household energy
- 26:25costs go to heating and cooling. Energy efficiency isn't just
- 26:29good for the environment, It means lower utility bills too.
- 26:34One way to reduce your energy waste is a home
- 26:36energy assessment. Your utility company can help, or you can
- 26:40learn how to do it yourself at energysavers dot gov.
- 26:43That's energysavers dot gov. You'll learn to look for air
- 26:47leaks around windows and doors, check ducks for holes, and
- 26:50improve your insulation. Another time to cut energy costs is
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- 27:06close fireplace stampers when they're not in use, and keep
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- 28:12Speaker 12: Hundred to do list.
- 28:14Speaker 2: Putting the radio on is the first thing today, and
- 28:17it's an honor that you do that with me. I
- 28:20have three public speaking engagements in the next week, including
- 28:25one today at noon as part of September eleventh. Americans
- 28:31for Prosperity has invited me to speak, and those who
- 28:35do what I do in the public eye are always
- 28:40of this mind. But as I posted to social media yesterday,
- 28:43as the news first struck that Charlie had been shot.
- 28:47Charlie Kirk I posted that for the most part, I
- 28:51had found that the only time I really ever felt
- 28:54my life and threat was when somebody felt like I
- 28:58had screwed them out of Aerosmith tickets and called and
- 29:01threatened to kill me for it. The Suffolk County Police
- 29:06generally monitor our phone calls for the next week and
- 29:09had police officers stationed around the building and on buildings
- 29:13nearby because they felt like it was a credible threat.
- 29:17They said. In July and August of two thousand and seventeen,
- 29:24I felt nervous about some of the folks who wanted
- 29:27to try to convince my listeners that they were conservative
- 29:31like they were, and they really weren't it and bore
- 29:35it out on August twelfth of twenty seventeen, when conservative
- 29:39patriots who wanted to defend free speech and honest telling
- 29:43of history and Robert E. Lee and that kind of
- 29:46thing arrived only to find themselves in the midst of
- 29:51a David Duke reunion white sheets conference catfished into it,
- 29:56and each one that came to me amidst the tear
- 29:58gas and the spray, I told get out, told you
- 30:03not to come here. And it wasn't that I don't
- 30:07believe in conservatives or I don't believe in telling the
- 30:11honest truth about things. Hide Robert E. Lee know all
- 30:15that despot was offensive to me, but the people who
- 30:20were using it for their own profit offended me as well,
- 30:25perhaps even more so. And those folks had me concerned
- 30:31and more hyper aware of the things that can happen.
- 30:36But the way, there's several emails already and a conversation
- 30:41with my thirty one year old son was born the
- 30:44same year as Charlie Kirk, who years ago was not
- 30:49a Charlie Kirk fan. I was one of the biggest supporters.
- 30:55You may remember there was this fella named Rush Limbaugh
- 30:59and he used to do a radio show at noon.
- 31:03Speaker 8: And the conference what was it, three Turning Point USA.
- 31:10How many kids were there? And there three thousand student
- 31:14activists here in was actually over to West Palm Beach.
- 31:17And this is a group that has been put together
- 31:20and operates under the auspices of Charlie Kirk, right, who
- 31:25is a you're going to be hearing that name if
- 31:28you haven't, He's enough.
- 31:30Speaker 12: Charlie.
- 31:31Speaker 2: Let me just tell you. Let me just tell you.
- 31:33Speaker 12: I don't want I don't want to jinx him, but.
- 31:36Speaker 2: I'm just going to tell you.
- 31:38Speaker 8: They brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet
- 31:41me about a month ago. He was in town to
- 31:45set up this turning Point thing, and they brought him
- 31:48to the golf course to meet me. It was during
- 31:49We're getting ready for a eight forty five am start,
- 31:54and they brought him out while I was getting ready
- 31:55to go to the range loosen up, and I spoke
- 31:58with him for about a half hour, and he told
- 32:00me how he grew up in a home where my
- 32:04program was on all the time. He was just effusively
- 32:09complimentary to me, which which I of course understood, and
- 32:16told him he's very wise.
- 32:17Speaker 2: He's very wise. He chuckled, he laughed.
- 32:20Speaker 12: This is the kind of guy.
- 32:24Speaker 8: That you can see really becoming big in politics as
- 32:29he gets older. He just has the kind the carriage
- 32:33the person out of the charisma.
- 32:35Speaker 2: So when it came to pass that time and illness
- 32:39took Rush Limbaugh from the radio station I was running
- 32:41at the time. In the face of opposition ownership, wanted
- 32:47to go with the people who were considered already anointed
- 32:51as the and I said, no, you got to listen,
- 32:53and I played other clips Rush Limbaugh speaking at Turning
- 32:56Point USA rallies about Charlie Kirk, and I was able
- 33:02to convince them out on a limb that I was
- 33:06right and everyone else in America was wrong, and that
- 33:11we should put this guy, who I think at the
- 33:12time was really just doing podcasts, and the network he
- 33:16was on, I think it was on about twenty or
- 33:18thirty stations at the time, they really weren't pushing him
- 33:22as the case in what I called his network. They said,
- 33:25you sure you don't want this other guy as much bigger,
- 33:27he's hosted some debates with presidential candidates, much bigger. Said no,
- 33:31I want this Charlie Kirk guy. So we're on in
- 33:34a college town, and I think being on in a
- 33:38college town, and of course being in the radio business,
- 33:40you want to keep a young audience coming in. It
- 33:43was important and as I said at the time, my
- 33:46son not a big fan of Charlie Kirk. Last night furious,
- 33:51and I felt this urgency to be a parent again
- 33:53and say, listen, you can't fight anger with anger. Hate
- 34:02only redoubles more hate, Removing the stars I'm paraphrasing here,
- 34:07removing the stars from a no increasing the darkness in
- 34:13a night already devoid of stars. I said, you can't
- 34:16you can't win by becoming like them, and I think
- 34:23I talked him off the ledge a bit, but he
- 34:25was very angry, which I thought was, as I said,
- 34:27funny because my son at the time when I made
- 34:30the switch and I brought Charlie Kirk into my hometown
- 34:33and onto the station that I ran, not so much
- 34:36a big fan of Charlie Kirk. That's changed over time
- 34:40because over time you get to know somebody. I even
- 34:43talked to Charlie about it, and it just said, no pressure,
- 34:47no pressure. Taking over from Russia. Limbaugh, Well, you know, the.
- 34:50Speaker 1: Pressure shows the man is what the old expression is.
- 34:53So I hope I can live up to it. But
- 34:55I appreciate the words, and I love Charlotteville, and I
- 34:59love that the world so honored to be able to
- 35:01speak to everyone every day and home to a.
- 35:03Speaker 2: Great turning point USA group here at the University of
- 35:07mister Jefferson here and fighting to keep it, you know.
- 35:11And I still think the most daunting thing is is
- 35:14encouraging young college kids not too far removed from where
- 35:18you are, Charlie, to be brave in the face of
- 35:20the onslaught of the cancel culture run amock, you know,
- 35:26and and on a daily basis, you guys are out
- 35:28there and growing every every minute. And and to me,
- 35:32that's that's gobsmacking, that that is something we all could
- 35:36school on.
- 35:37Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that we do have a
- 35:39great group at University of Virginia. And I'm a big
- 35:42Thomas Jefferson fan. And I'm not afraid to say that
- 35:45because I actually know my history of Jefferson. I'm like
- 35:47the people that want to remove him from our society.
- 35:51He was a brilliant man and any sort of moral
- 35:54shortcomings he had were actually a lot more nuanced than
- 35:57people would realize. However, I did not come here to
- 35:59talk about that, but more broadly, yes, what we're doing
- 36:02at Turning Point USA is trying to educate and inspire,
- 36:06activate and train the next generation to stand boldly and
- 36:08with courage against this kind of cultural onslaught.
- 36:13Speaker 2: That was one of many conversations I've had with Charlie
- 36:17Kirk over the time. And that's the message on this
- 36:23morning is the terrorist and I use that word not
- 36:29just because it's true. It's what the assassin on the
- 36:33roof of the University of it was a Utah Utah
- 36:38Valley University. That terrorist wants you to stop. It wants
- 36:47you to stop listening to programs like this. They want
- 36:50you to stop reading the Bill of Rights. They want
- 36:53you to stop loving one another. They want you to
- 36:57stop believing that God has endowed you with un and
- 37:00alienable rights. They want you to stop all the things
- 37:06that make America unique, make America exceptional, and they want
- 37:10you to become like them. You can be mad at me.
- 37:18You say, no, Joe, it's time. And this was a
- 37:20conversation I had with my own thirty one year old
- 37:23son yesterday. No, it's time for us to go and
- 37:26do the things that they're doing to us. No, it's not.
- 37:32Now's the time to do just the opposite. And I
- 37:37warn you that that is going to make them more
- 37:40insane than they already are. And we watched. I mean,
- 37:45I could spend the next four hours just playing clips
- 37:47of unhinged people on social media, which is an ugly
- 37:52black mirror into the soul of the human animal. Don't
- 38:00be like them.
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- 39:02Speaker 19: Crime across the country is at an all time high.
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- 40:02Speaker 23: You were strolling along in Goodwill when, just past that
- 40:05mid century side table and denim jacket, you spotted them
- 40:08nestled in their display case, miniature donut earrings. Oh yes, yes,
- 40:16your favorite half breakfast pastry, half all day dessert food
- 40:20made into your favorite form of ear candy. Oh my,
- 40:24those bejeweled sprinkles have satisfied some unknown hunger within you.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Sh do you smell that?
- 40:32Speaker 23: That's the sugary center of shopping.
- 40:34Speaker 12: Success for this is goodwill.
- 40:38Speaker 23: And with every item you buy, you fund local job
- 40:41training and more so, go forth, bring home those donut
- 40:47earrings and bring home so much good to your community.
- 40:54Goodwill bring good home.
- 40:57Speaker 15: Exercise is hard, so is containing a healthy diet. Of course,
- 41:03neither is half as hard as dying. Sadly, type two diabetes,
- 41:08heart disease, and stroke kill nearly a million people a year.
- 41:12Even sadder, most of these deaths are preventable with a
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- 41:22Talk to your doctor about your risk for type two
- 41:24diabetes and heart disease, and if your doctor recommends lifestyle
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- 41:45or call one eight hundred diabetes a message from the
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- 41:50Speaker 12: My name is Jim.
- 41:51Speaker 2: I'm a veteran, and I lost both legs in Vietnam.
- 41:54My victory was proving that disability is not a limitation.
- 41:58I'm Julius.
- 41:59Speaker 7: I'm a v My victory was going from homeless toll.
- 42:03Speaker 18: At DAV we're on a mission helping veterans of all
- 42:07generations get the benefits they've earned.
- 42:09Speaker 22: I'm cc My victory was finishing my education.
- 42:13Speaker 18: When America's veterans win, we all win. Help us support
- 42:16more victories for veterans.
- 42:18Speaker 2: Go to DAV dot org.
- 42:21Speaker 3: We the people are guaranteed five freedoms in the First Amendment.
- 42:25Speaker 12: Freedom of speech, freedom of.
- 42:29Speaker 7: Religion, freedom of the press, freedom to peaceably assemble, freedom
- 42:36to petition the government.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Only the United States has these five freedoms. So simply
- 42:41bound together and guaranteed. Think First.
- 42:44Speaker 23: Learn more at Think First Amendment dot org.
- 42:48Speaker 21: No word in the English language is less convincing than probably.
- 42:52Speaker 22: Are you sure we should get matching tattoos on our
- 42:55first date?
- 42:56Speaker 16: Sure?
- 42:57Speaker 5: We'll probably stay together.
- 42:58Speaker 22: Probably, it's been twenty three minutes.
- 43:02Speaker 12: Since I ate. I can probably swim.
- 43:05Speaker 16: You should wait thirty minutes.
- 43:07Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell me what to do.
- 43:09Speaker 16: Can it bar.
- 43:12Speaker 4: Cramp?
- 43:12Speaker 11: Oh?
- 43:13Speaker 2: I have a cramp. I can probably hit the green
- 43:18from here?
- 43:19Speaker 12: Probably?
- 43:24Speaker 6: Can I get a Mulligan.
- 43:26Speaker 2: Ready to go?
- 43:27Speaker 21: Hey?
- 43:27Speaker 22: Are you sure you're okay to drive?
- 43:29Speaker 19: Yeah?
- 43:30Speaker 12: I'm pretty sober.
- 43:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably okay.
- 43:35Speaker 21: Probably okay isn't okay, especially when it comes to drinking
- 43:39and driving. If you're drinking, call a cab, a car,
- 43:42or a friend. Buzz driving is drunk driving. A message
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- 43:48Speaker 22: You know the legal drinking age is twenty one. You
- 43:50may also know this law protects teens. Find out more
- 43:54at Dontserve Teens dot gov. A message from the We
- 43:57Don't Serve Teens program and the Federal Trade Commission.
- 44:13Speaker 7: For you from Joe Thomas.
- 44:16Speaker 12: It's first thing today.
- 44:18Speaker 2: Are you a hockey fan? You know what a coon is?
- 44:23In hockey?
- 44:25Speaker 4: All across America, talk radio and the voices of freedom.
- 44:31Speaker 12: Don't stop talking.
- 44:32Speaker 2: That's what this guy in the roof was. Don't stop laughing,
- 44:37don't stop caring. As long as you God, don't ever stop,
- 44:44and we never will because that's what makes them mad.
- 44:49Acknowledging that poverty is an issue and that there are
- 44:52different ways to do it, different ways to discuss it.
- 44:57That somebody who hates their body in to mutilate it
- 45:02probably needs to talk to someone, and that offends somebody
- 45:08saying that somebody needs help, and that they're calling out
- 45:13for it. That's hate. We play a clip and it's
- 45:24been over and over, and sometimes I try not to
- 45:29because it's so easy to apply this clip to so
- 45:37many instances, so I try to hold off, though the
- 45:45inclination is I could probably play this every five minutes
- 45:48and it would be formatically correct. I'm not leaving until
- 45:54I get justice. Oh not exactly justice. I suppose more
- 45:57like preferential treatment. But I'm not leaving it. And that
- 46:03is the world we're in. We want preferential treatment. We
- 46:07want to be special, which isn't not an misunderstood thing.
- 46:14People have wanted to feel special. But what are you
- 46:17doing for that specialty? What are you doing to earn
- 46:22that specialness? The blowback from some of the leftists unhinged
- 46:37remarks regarding victim shaming. Ironically, the same people who will
- 46:46tell you that they're against victim shaming seem to be
- 46:53all for it. Yesterday, in the wake of the assassination
- 46:55of Charlie Kirk, the terrorist, the goon that's trying to
- 47:00get us into a hockey fight with them, That's why
- 47:03I referred to him as a goon. Them still at large,
- 47:07Utah officials still looking for him goon, Because what a
- 47:12goon does is goes after your best hockey player and
- 47:17tries to get them into a hockey fight, so that
- 47:20he who couldn't score a goal if there wasn't a
- 47:23goalie or anyone else on the ice, spends five minutes
- 47:26in the penalty box. But so does your best scorer,
- 47:31And so a goon does. And that's what this goon
- 47:34in Utah did, And he wants us to get into
- 47:40a hockey fight with him. He wants us to drop
- 47:43the gloves so that you and me and everyone else
- 47:45goes into the hockey penalty box, the societal penalty box
- 47:50with them. They don't care. They weren't doing anything anyway
- 47:54we are. Don't let them get you to drop the
- 48:00Do what Wayne Gretzky used to do. You know what
- 48:02do you do? You know what Mark Messier would do.
- 48:05Go score on them, Go bury one in the corner
- 48:09of the net on them. That's what makes them mad,
- 48:13not giving into them, not dropping the gloves in the corner.
- 48:18By the way, just so you know, other things are
- 48:22going on. Do you know that Poland has invoked Article
- 48:26four of the NATO Treaty, which requires all the nations
- 48:30to gather because their airspace was invaded by Russian drones.
- 48:36By the way, other things going on in the world.
- 48:40Good morning, You're on the air. First thing this morning
- 48:42with Joe Thomas. Who's this? Hey Joe, It's Clark, Morning Clark.
- 48:47How are you, sir?
- 48:49Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm alright.
- 48:50Speaker 2: I guess I understand. I understand the feeling.
- 48:54Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, Joe.
- 48:57Speaker 16: It occurs to me that until we just accept and
- 49:01embrace the fact that the left hates the country and
- 49:07they hate us because we love the country, we're never
- 49:14going to grasp the situation we're in.
- 49:17Speaker 2: I think that that is the situation, and I believe
- 49:21present company included, I think we do grasp that that
- 49:25these are people, and until until people like Chuck Schumer,
- 49:31until people and pardon me again, if I want to
- 49:35make a moral equivalency, When somebody like the organizers of
- 49:42the David Duke reunion in Charlottesville, as they walked around
- 49:47pronouncing themselves to be conservatives, I was asked dozens of
- 49:52times do you renounce this concern? And I'm like, what
- 49:56am I supposed to renounce? What does renounce mean? Donald Trump,
- 50:00do you renounce conservatives that support a fair telling of
- 50:05the Civil War? Do you renounce every Everyone wants to
- 50:08renounce from the left, But nobody ever asked Chuck Schumer
- 50:12to renounce anyone. Nobody ever asks Nancy Pelosi to renounce anyone.
- 50:17Nobody ever says, hey, AOC, do you renounce this guy?
- 50:21When are they going to be held to account for
- 50:24the behavior of the people. When did Bernie Sanders Bernie
- 50:27Sanders reaction to his supporter, his Bernie bro that nearly
- 50:31killed Steve Scalise and all those congressional baseball players. His
- 50:37reaction was, I'm not in charge of what he does.
- 50:42At what point? At what point is Maxi and Waters
- 50:45held to account for saying when you see these people
- 50:48get in their face at because I said this to
- 50:52my son, I said, because I truly believe that there
- 50:55are people who have a tenuous grip on their last
- 50:59good and some of them listen to this program. Some
- 51:02of them are big Donald Trump fans, and I don't
- 51:05want to be the guy who, like Jeff Bridges in
- 51:09the Fisher King, pushes them over the edge. We need
- 51:13to be better than the people who go up on
- 51:15a roof. And by the way, at some point, Utah
- 51:19Valley University needs to explain to me how somebody gets
- 51:23onto that roof, just like the folks in Butler. Probably
- 51:26at some point should be explaining how the teenager became
- 51:31the teen on the hot tin roof. But I'm giving
- 51:34up holding my breath for that. But am I wrong
- 51:36to say? When do these people start to be asked
- 51:39to renounce this stuff?
- 51:43Speaker 16: When we accept the fact that they hate us and
- 51:45hate the country. And when I use the term wee Joe,
- 51:49I don't mean Jellen Clark. We're there. The rest that
- 51:53we are not there, Ah, And that's our problem.
- 51:57Speaker 2: I think a lot more of we are there. I
- 52:00think a lot more of we are there. Thus, twenty
- 52:02twenty four, you know what, you know what day? And
- 52:04here's one and I'm going to hang on to you.
- 52:06I'm sure we got the news coming up here. But
- 52:08you want to know something that's going to really infuriate them.
- 52:10And I hate to make it about politics, but you
- 52:13know what really is going to make them mad? The
- 52:17swearing in the swearing in of Governor Winsome Earl Series
- 52:22of Virginia, the swearing in of Jack Chatterrelly, Governor of
- 52:26New Jersey, the swearing in of Curtis sliwa Is, the
- 52:30Mayor of New York. That that will that will blow
- 52:33their mind. You want to make them mad. Make that happen.
- 52:37Make that happen. That's instead of dropping, like I said
- 52:41Wayne Gretzky, when he got thugged up, he went out
- 52:45and buried a goal into the corner of the net.
- 52:48That's how he gets back.
- 52:51Speaker 19: Crime across the country is at an all time high.
- 52:54It feels like even a family road trip is taking
- 52:56a risk. We don't want the feeling of being unprotected andvulnerable.
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- 53:04us the help we needed to apply for a legal
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- 53:14it's all online. We used their free qualification process to
- 53:18answer a few questions and applied for our permit right
- 53:20from home. Thanks to reciprocty laws between states, when you're
- 53:24issued a New Hampshire concealed carry permit, you can legally
- 53:27carry in any state that recognizes your New Hampshire permit.
- 53:30It only takes minutes to apply so don't wait. Exercise
- 53:34your rights today. Ensure you're protecting your family at home
- 53:37and in other states, have peace of mind. Apply today
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