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#655 - TF & DJ Muggs Break Down “Don’t Call Me Lucky” (Album + Movie), Soul Assassins, Cypress Hill & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Bootleg Cat Podcast special guests in here. We have got
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Speaker 1: a legend DJ Muggs.
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Speaker 2: We have got my.
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Speaker 1: Guy representing the Los Angeles, California TF they got a
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Speaker 1: new album and movie. Don't call Me Lucky artificially right now,
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Speaker 1: fellas welcome, Yes, sir, I told you guys off off
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Speaker 1: the camera. I gotta give you flowers on the came.
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Speaker 1: This is to me the top three albums of the year.
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Speaker 1: This album is fucking It's so good and I was like,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy because it's an easy listen, but I was
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Speaker 1: like disappointed when it was over. I was like, damn,
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Speaker 1: I wish this shit had like three or four more records.
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Speaker 1: It's good, man, It's a dope, dope album.
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Speaker 3: Dude. Thanks.
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Speaker 2: How long were you guys working on this musically?
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Speaker 3: You know, we started making music about two years ago,
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Speaker 3: just songs.
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Speaker 4: Yo.
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Speaker 3: We'd be working out. Steve comes over and works out
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Speaker 3: with me. Yeah, knocked out a song, knock out a song.
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Speaker 3: I got a song, and then I was like, all right,
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Speaker 3: man's let's start wrapping this up. So I gave him
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Speaker 3: a couple of new beats. He knocked those out and
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Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, this is sound different. I go
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Speaker 3: the album starts today, let's start, Let's rerecord the whole
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Speaker 3: whole album, so I think, And then within six weeks
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Speaker 3: we knocked it out. We kept three of the original
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Speaker 3: songs and everything else was brand new.
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Speaker 2: Did the title start with that sample?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 3: The The original tide of the album and movie was
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Speaker 3: Another Day in Paradise, okay. But he had a line
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Speaker 3: that said, don't call me Lucky, and he said it again,
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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking of it, and I was talking to
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Speaker 3: him and I was like, Yo, that line is so strong, bro,
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Speaker 3: because you know, like this is blood, sweat and tears,
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Speaker 3: years of work, man, stand up to six in the
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Speaker 3: morning to achieve our goals and our dreams and our ambition.
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Speaker 3: So I was like, hey, you down to flip this
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Speaker 3: title to don't call Me Lucky? And he's like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: let's run it. And then I added those samples in
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Speaker 3: at the end.
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Speaker 2: Where do you where do you?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to obviously the sample snitches
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Speaker 1: and not out, but like, was it hard to find that?
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Speaker 2: I dug?
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Speaker 3: Baby, I dug because you gotta dig to find.
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Speaker 1: If you if the name came first and then you
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Speaker 1: gotta find, it'd be different. If the sample came and
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Speaker 1: you're like, Yo, the sample kind of sounds kind of fly,
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Speaker 1: we should roll with this.
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Speaker 3: I dug man, it's you know, I'm blessed to have
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Speaker 3: some friends that are diggers and have creates that are
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Speaker 3: super fucking deep. So I made a few phone calls,
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Speaker 3: you know, and they got back with me.
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Speaker 1: So you're kind of like, hey, guys, this is the
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Speaker 1: name of the album, can you help me find something?
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Speaker 3: It was good?
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Speaker 1: Man, You guys have had such a strong working relationship.
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Speaker 1: TF Can you just kind of speak to like how
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Speaker 1: awesome it is to be able to just have such
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Speaker 1: a catalog with one of the greatest hip hop producers
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Speaker 1: of all time and speak to your guys' friendship and
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Speaker 1: chemistry with Mugs.
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, yeah, so outside of the music, you know,
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Speaker 5: like Mug said, like, we would just build just hanging out.
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Speaker 5: You feel me, it wasn't even really recording.
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Speaker 2: It'll be days.
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Speaker 5: I'll just pull up and we'll just you know, we're
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Speaker 5: just kicking it, chopping it up, you know. He uh.
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Speaker 3: Mugs is.
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Speaker 5: Like, sometimes I probably wouldn't even say nothing, but I'd
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Speaker 5: just be listening, you know, like just the convos and
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Speaker 5: just to be a fly on the wall to hear
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Speaker 5: you know, different conversations, and you know, motherfucker's really chopping
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Speaker 5: game on, you know, building like outside of the music world,
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Speaker 5: you feel me So just to be able to sit there,
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Speaker 5: you know and chop game and get game and you know,
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Speaker 5: it's never no gate keeping type shit around, none of
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Speaker 5: the none of the homies around. And uh so it
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Speaker 5: made it easy recording. You know, it's like, hey, we're
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Speaker 5: just having beats on in the back, like, hey, load
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Speaker 5: that up or send me that, you know. So it
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Speaker 5: was kind of dope. It obviously like throughout the years
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Speaker 5: it wasn't that. So it was a point where I
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Speaker 5: record something and I wouldn't here till like maybe like
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Speaker 5: three four months later, like damn, I forgot about that.
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Speaker 2: It just comes out.
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Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, just so not really comes out, but
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Speaker 5: you know, like he's send it to me and I'd
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Speaker 5: be like, oh shit, I forgot about this one.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 5: But it we got to the point to where I
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Speaker 5: stopped coming out here, you know, cause I got a
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Speaker 5: studio where I'm at now. He was like, well, you know,
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Speaker 5: send some shit to you now. So but yeah, like
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Speaker 5: we had a long like a good a good run
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Speaker 5: to where you know, it kept me on my toes,
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Speaker 5: really feel me because me not being able to hear
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Speaker 5: these records and then I'm still getting beats and I'm
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Speaker 5: pulling up and he got a new beat playing, so
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Speaker 5: like we got so many different sounds going on. We
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Speaker 5: had so many different sounds going on building the album out.
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Speaker 5: So but yeah, when we finally got to that that
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Speaker 5: last that last leg really tuned and out in and uh,
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Speaker 5: by then I was that was probably like a few
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Speaker 5: months a few months ago, maybe like the end of
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Speaker 5: last year.
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Speaker 1: Really mugs uh, how cause this is some of the
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Speaker 1: best production I feel like of the year on this project,
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Speaker 1: just front to back, Like you are in your fucking bag,
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Speaker 1: Like are you making beats daily weekly? How much of
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Speaker 1: this was stuff that you were cooking up because you
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Speaker 1: got inspired by the project? How much of it was
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Speaker 1: stuff where you were like playing just beats and tfs
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Speaker 1: like that one, or you were like, yo, this feels
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Speaker 1: like they'll fit, Like what's it?
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Speaker 3: I think? I think when we started working it was
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Speaker 3: just beats I was playing and he picked things out,
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Speaker 3: like you sure you want that? I would have never
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Speaker 3: gave you that, you know what I'm saying, but when
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Speaker 3: we got when we died in at the end, I
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Speaker 3: was making beats specifically for the record to make sure
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Speaker 3: it's can cohesive. I was like, what do we need now?
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Speaker 3: I need some uptempo shit. I need. I need a
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Speaker 3: soul record. I need I need something that something that's
5:18
Speaker 3: kind of fun, you know what I mean, like like
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Speaker 3: El Sancho, you know what I mean. And then like
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Speaker 3: the Ghost record was recorded, and I liked the original.
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Speaker 3: But a lot of times when I'm finished with an
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Speaker 3: album and I got time, I'll start remixing songs just
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Speaker 3: to see what I can come up with. So I'm
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Speaker 3: working on the Ghost record and I'm like, yo, this shit,
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Speaker 3: ghost Ghost sounds good on break beats. Let me throw
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Speaker 3: a break beat on here. And then the TF didn't
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Speaker 3: sound good on that break beat. Then I threw another one.
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Speaker 3: I was like, TF sound good on this one, but
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Speaker 3: Ghost doone. So I was like, you know, I'm a
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Speaker 3: little twenty break beats up and just put them in.
5:47
Speaker 3: And then it just I put on every four bars
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Speaker 3: and I'm just you know, it's like jacking for beats
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Speaker 3: inspired you know, break beat DJ shit. And I was like,
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Speaker 3: this is entertaining this is something dope for the album,
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Speaker 3: dope for the DJs, you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 3: we rode with that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, and it's definitely like, uh something like that is.
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Speaker 1: It's just like some it's some hip hop head shit.
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Speaker 1: It's like, imagine like in twenty twenty six, we're getting
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Speaker 1: you and Ghosts over fucking.
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Speaker 2: All those different breaks. It's awesome. I wanted to ask you.
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Speaker 1: I saw the Soul Assassin's two album finally ended up
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Speaker 1: on DSPs, which is awesome because that album is I
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Speaker 1: don't even know how many years old.
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Speaker 2: That album two thousand and two, man, Yeah, so it's
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Speaker 2: finally up.
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Speaker 1: Was that a hard process to get some like get
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Speaker 1: that out because for people who don't know, it wasn't
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Speaker 1: on DSPs for so long and this year it finally
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Speaker 1: got uploaded on everything. Was what was the process of
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Speaker 1: getting that back up?
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Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't on DSP So I called Chris
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Speaker 3: Schwartz and he's like, dude, I'll give you the record,
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Speaker 3: I'll give you the masters back. I have them. Wow.
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Speaker 3: I was like, you seriously, goes yeah.
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Speaker 2: So, because where did it originally come out.
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Speaker 3: Through Chris Schwartz? I think it was through warners. They
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Speaker 3: had a rough Nation. After rough House he started record yep,
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Speaker 3: so he gave me the masters back and he goes here, man,
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Speaker 3: that's awesome, so cool as fuck, and so we loaded
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Speaker 3: it up. We're gonna drop an anniversary Rhinol later on
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Speaker 3: this year that be to play. So I mean, I
7:07
Speaker 3: have a couple bonus tracks that didn't go on the
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Speaker 3: record I'm gonna put on the album. So yeah. Shout
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Speaker 3: out to Chris Schwartz for always being a good motherfucker man.
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Speaker 2: Yo TFU.
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Speaker 1: Muggs has always been known as the kind of the
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Speaker 1: bridge I feel like between the West Coast and East
7:23
Speaker 1: Coast if you will, like you always would hear like
7:26
Speaker 1: people say like Cypress Hill back of the Day didn't
7:28
Speaker 1: sound like an LA group or the beats didn't set,
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Speaker 1: because Mugs is kind of the you know, the backbone
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Speaker 1: to that sound. This album is such a perfect representation
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Speaker 1: of that with the features. You got Room Streets on
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Speaker 1: the album, you got rock Marcy on the album. We
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Speaker 1: talked about ghost Face, but I feel like you too
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Speaker 1: as an artist, Like I first heard about you through
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Speaker 1: Conway and I know you've been working with school Boy
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Speaker 1: Q and shit, but you have always had like such
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Speaker 1: a great relationship with the underground East Coast guys. What
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Speaker 1: kind of started that, would you say? And like, because
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Speaker 1: you've been embraced by that community.
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Speaker 5: Oh well, shit, I was from running around with Q
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Speaker 5: that blank Face tour. Yeah, when we did blank Face
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Speaker 5: that blank Face run, we had like a week in
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Speaker 5: New York and uh, and you know, motherfucker's on tour.
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Speaker 5: Motherfuckers ain't really trying to you know, move around like that,
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Speaker 5: or if they did, you know, we probably go grab
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Speaker 5: something to eat or something like that. But I was like, man,
8:23
Speaker 5: this was my first time in New York. I'm like,
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to go.
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Speaker 3: Hit the streets.
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Speaker 5: Who do I need to Who do I need to
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Speaker 5: know to, you know, run around and see what I see.
8:31
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to see Times Square, I'm not trying
8:33
Speaker 5: to go to nothing high end. I'm trying to go
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Speaker 5: tap in with you know so and doing that, I
8:40
Speaker 5: built a lot of relationships in that, like within that
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Speaker 5: week twenty sixteen. I'm still like now at this point, now,
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Speaker 5: those same people I met that week are like super
8:53
Speaker 5: good friends now. So just being on just being able
8:56
Speaker 5: to run around like that and tap in and meet
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Speaker 5: people you know outside of the so the the the
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Speaker 5: rappers like them, like you know, the wrong streets, rock
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Speaker 5: Marshy like these are also like my close friends.
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Speaker 2: You feel me so for sure.
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Speaker 5: Uh but yeah, I mean uh even with my music
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Speaker 5: after the Tookie Nose like I dropped no hooks, feel
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Speaker 5: me so, like my whole thing has always been like
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Speaker 5: that lane, like you get down, Yeah I could, Yeah,
9:27
Speaker 5: I'm smoking anything.
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Speaker 2: Feel me so. Uh.
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Speaker 5: You know once people seen that and they seem like, oh,
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Speaker 5: you really be on.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm I was in New.
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Speaker 5: York at like maybe five six times a year, just
9:38
Speaker 5: running around like sometimes recording, sometimes chilling, sometimes working. Uh
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Speaker 5: but whatever the case, I'm I'm in New York, you know,
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Speaker 5: so uh you know, like it's it's dope to go
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Speaker 5: touch the people that touch the city.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 5: Even just this last time, we was all working out,
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Speaker 5: working out outside at the park.
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Speaker 2: Yo.
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Speaker 3: Man, you know this thing you could only do so much. Man,
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Speaker 3: there's nothing like FaceTime. And like walking down the street,
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Speaker 3: we run into the same people two times a day
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Speaker 3: sometimes and they're like yo, yo, you gotta come do this,
10:09
Speaker 3: you gotta come do this. We went to do two
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Speaker 3: radio shows. We end up doing nine of them, you know,
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Speaker 3: just running in them motherfuckers. And you know New York
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Speaker 3: im mad love and for sure and the kind of
10:17
Speaker 3: music he does. Man. In fact, he can pull up
10:19
Speaker 3: in New York. It's always been a thing. Yo. New
10:21
Speaker 3: York was the media capital of the world at one time.
10:23
Speaker 3: It's like you got to go to New York. You
10:24
Speaker 3: could pop off in New York, you could pop off anywhere,
10:27
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So putting that time in
10:29
Speaker 3: the streets face to face it's important.
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Speaker 2: Uh mugs.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, man, because Soul Assassin's has
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Speaker 1: been such a it's been such a launching pad for
11:59
Speaker 1: so many people, and it's been so important.
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Speaker 3: You know.
12:04
Speaker 1: I grew up around Rocker's brother from Dilated, so that's
12:08
Speaker 1: that was my best man at my wedding, so I
12:10
Speaker 1: kind of was hip to this underground scene in La
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Speaker 1: for a lot sooner than a lot of people. I
12:17
Speaker 1: was like eleven or twelve years older, fat beats, you know,
12:19
Speaker 1: for when Expansion Team came out. But when I think
12:24
Speaker 1: of soul Assassins, I just think of a certain aspect
12:28
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles hip hop that's so important. And you know,
12:32
Speaker 1: for you how crazy is it to know that, like
12:35
Speaker 1: or just to see where al has kind of gone
12:39
Speaker 1: to the levels he's gone to. I mean, he got
12:42
Speaker 1: nominated for Album of the Year at the Grammys. And
12:45
Speaker 1: you know, when I think Alchemists, I think it's old assassins,
12:47
Speaker 1: But I mean he's also a contemporary contemporary of yours,
12:51
Speaker 1: you're you know, mentalor of his How crazy has it
12:52
Speaker 1: been to just watch the Alchemist thing?
12:54
Speaker 3: Bro? It's amazing. I love it. I just smile every
12:57
Speaker 3: time I see him winning, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: I get excited. I tech some shit be like yeah baby,
13:01
Speaker 3: you know, congratulations, congratulations. He's like, man, I'm here just
13:04
Speaker 3: waving the flag, you know what I mean, Thank you,
13:06
Speaker 3: big bro. So you know, he goes back and forth. Man,
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Speaker 3: he still takes care of me. I take care of him,
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Speaker 3: you know, And that goes for the whole soul Assassin
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Speaker 3: Family for mister cartoon from a step On. You know
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Speaker 3: what I mean, It's it's it's we were just a
13:18
Speaker 3: an artist collective, you know what I mean. And it's
13:20
Speaker 3: all just about helping each other with our dreams, goals
13:23
Speaker 3: and ambitions, man, and just opening any door, any door,
13:26
Speaker 3: any new relationship we got, we share it. Man.
13:29
Speaker 1: What is it because you do albums with you know,
13:32
Speaker 1: Rome Streets or Mayhem or Jay Worthy? Obviously TF What
13:36
Speaker 1: is it about somebody that like you're looking for where
13:39
Speaker 1: you're like, yo, I want to do a project with
13:41
Speaker 1: this person. Is it the chemistry when you guys work together?
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Speaker 3: Is it? Like?
13:44
Speaker 1: What is it that kind of because you've got I
13:47
Speaker 1: feel like you've been on such an underrated independent run
13:49
Speaker 1: with a lot of these albums.
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Speaker 2: You've been releasing.
13:51
Speaker 1: What is it that you look for in an artist
13:54
Speaker 1: or you know, somebody when it comes to saying like,
13:56
Speaker 1: you know what, let's let's do Let's do tenn these
13:58
Speaker 1: or fifteen of these?
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Speaker 3: You know, first's I gotta I gotta like what they're doing.
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Speaker 3: So after that, you know, then I'll be like, I
14:04
Speaker 3: don't send nothing in the mail. You got to pull
14:06
Speaker 3: up and then it's kind of like you know then
14:09
Speaker 3: kind of like running water through the pipes. I got
14:11
Speaker 3: to test drive the situation so and see what kind
14:13
Speaker 3: of human this is. I was like, let's do a song. Well,
14:16
Speaker 3: see how they move, so they get down, see what
14:18
Speaker 3: they say. Let's do another song. Okay, boom, now we
14:21
Speaker 3: can move forward. Let's knock out an album, you know
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Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's always that that testing ground
14:26
Speaker 3: and shit, you know, because you're gonna spend a month
14:29
Speaker 3: and a half in a dark ass studio with a human,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You got to make sure
14:32
Speaker 3: they cool because I ain't doing this for the money,
14:34
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm doing it straight for
14:35
Speaker 3: the love and then just a commaderaderie and and and
14:38
Speaker 3: the the the creative back and forth with somebody, which
14:42
Speaker 3: is a good time, you know what I mean. So
14:44
Speaker 3: that's pretty much what I look for.
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Speaker 2: Tf Uh. You've been on this crazy independent run yourself.
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Speaker 2: I'm curious, like, have you ever considered signing anywhere? Because
14:56
Speaker 2: I feel like at certain.
14:56
Speaker 1: Point in time, I'm sure you've had people knocking on
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Speaker 1: your door man, or do you do you? I mean,
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Speaker 1: because the indie game is is cold right now, Like
15:02
Speaker 1: in a good way. Like I feel like, if you
15:04
Speaker 1: have a pocket, you can you can really turn it
15:07
Speaker 1: into a very very Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Oh well I got a I got a sick situation
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Speaker 5: right now with Rocknation Distribution, okay, you know, but other
15:16
Speaker 5: than that, like, nah, not really, because I've seen people
15:20
Speaker 5: in the in the uh independent game running it up crazy.
15:25
Speaker 5: At this point, it's really just relationships, really, you feel
15:28
Speaker 5: me like, and if you could, if you got the
15:33
Speaker 5: call log to really push those buttons on your own,
15:35
Speaker 5: and I feel like you'll be straight. Yeah, I feel
15:38
Speaker 5: me especially if you know how to move and you've
15:40
Speaker 5: been moving good, you've been moving around good, and you
15:43
Speaker 5: know how to network and you know how.
15:44
Speaker 3: To let that network build a.
15:47
Speaker 5: World for you, then I feel like you'll be straight.
15:50
Speaker 1: What I always wonder because you did an album with Crisis,
15:52
Speaker 1: who's also incredible. Shout out to Carolina's out there the
15:56
Speaker 1: Green Bottle. How did you guys connect?
15:59
Speaker 3: We connect?
16:00
Speaker 2: Did uh through dough?
16:02
Speaker 5: Shut him up with dough uh Dough Networks. He was
16:05
Speaker 5: living in North Carolina at the time, and yeah, he
16:08
Speaker 5: was like, Yo, you.
16:09
Speaker 3: Should get with this, dude.
16:10
Speaker 5: Crisis christis Crisis.
16:11
Speaker 2: You know, little brother family.
16:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I ended up going out there. Uh and
16:18
Speaker 5: uh we did a few records. We did a few
16:21
Speaker 5: records and stuff like that, and I heard his production.
16:23
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, because at the time I really
16:24
Speaker 5: wasn't him to you know, what he was doing or
16:27
Speaker 5: even who he was. He got a lot of accolades
16:30
Speaker 5: for sure, you know. So Uh, I was like, damn,
16:32
Speaker 5: I'm kind of sleep on you know. So I went
16:35
Speaker 5: before I even really jumped into that project, I went
16:37
Speaker 5: and did some homework on him, checked him out, listen
16:40
Speaker 5: to I was like, all right, for sure, let's do it.
16:43
Speaker 5: So uh, same thing like he was playing me stuff
16:48
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I need that one.
16:51
Speaker 2: Yeah.
16:51
Speaker 5: So but that's how we that's how we connected through
16:53
Speaker 5: dough and Uh. I recorded most of that most of
16:57
Speaker 5: that album in North Carolina.
16:59
Speaker 2: Oh really, So you went out there and tapped in.
17:01
Speaker 5: I like, like, you know, like like mus was saying,
17:03
Speaker 5: I like to build.
17:04
Speaker 3: I like to build with people. I like to build
17:06
Speaker 3: with people.
17:07
Speaker 5: Like even if if like if I'm gonna do a
17:10
Speaker 5: feature with you, I'm not gonna send you the song
17:12
Speaker 5: I'd rather especially if we like if I know you
17:16
Speaker 5: and you like on the other side of the world,
17:17
Speaker 5: then all right cool, you feel me. But like if
17:20
Speaker 5: we out here, you in LA or somewhere close to LA,
17:24
Speaker 5: and you can't get to the studio or we can't
17:28
Speaker 5: get to you know, make it happen, and not times
17:30
Speaker 5: out of ten it probably won't happen because I don't
17:32
Speaker 5: really like doing.
17:32
Speaker 2: The email A lot of times. You like to just
17:34
Speaker 2: lock in face.
17:36
Speaker 3: I want to.
17:36
Speaker 5: I want to be able to be like because that's
17:37
Speaker 5: where the chemistry come in at you know, you could
17:39
Speaker 5: you could hear a song and it's like you could
17:41
Speaker 5: tell like that just got put together. It wasn't like
17:44
Speaker 5: a vibe in the studio type.
17:46
Speaker 1: Shit when's working on a Muggs album. Because I'll be
17:49
Speaker 1: shopping at nine pm at Ralphson Burbank and I'll run
17:51
Speaker 1: into like May Handler ran like buying produce and.
17:54
Speaker 2: What are you doing here? I know what you're doing.
17:56
Speaker 2: Gave me Muggs are working. I was like, oh yeah, yo, Mugs.
18:02
Speaker 2: One of.
18:04
Speaker 1: To me, your your best projects that you've been a
18:07
Speaker 1: part of was that you and Jiz did Grand Masters,
18:10
Speaker 1: which is such a slept on project.
18:12
Speaker 2: Man, so good.
18:12
Speaker 1: I actually think right after Liquid Swords, that's Jes's best
18:16
Speaker 1: solo body of work. What was like the genesis of
18:20
Speaker 1: you guys deciding to do Grand Masters, because that is woo,
18:24
Speaker 1: that thing is special.
18:25
Speaker 3: Man. Well we you know, we linked up on the
18:27
Speaker 3: first Sol Assassin record and did Third World, and then
18:32
Speaker 3: second Sol Assassin record we did when the Fat Lady Sings,
18:36
Speaker 3: and it was just talk me and would talk all
18:37
Speaker 3: the time about doing the project together. And me and
18:40
Speaker 3: Chase started a label, Chase Infinite. Shout out to Chase Infinite,
18:44
Speaker 3: and you know, and we put Mitchie Slick out the
18:47
Speaker 3: wrong time. We put Mitchie Slick, We put Self Scientific out,
18:50
Speaker 3: we put Planet Asia out, and then we was like,
18:51
Speaker 3: let me reach out to Jizz and do this project.
18:54
Speaker 3: And Jizzy came through. Man. We played Chess every day
18:57
Speaker 3: Strength Gennises and knocked the record out of the month.
19:00
Speaker 3: But you know, by the way, that's.
19:02
Speaker 2: The most on brand sentence ever came through. We drank
19:05
Speaker 2: Guennis's and played.
19:07
Speaker 3: And let me tell you that record would have went gold.
19:08
Speaker 3: It was a weird time because that was the time
19:10
Speaker 3: when Napster was out and then the music records just
19:15
Speaker 3: stopped selling. Everything went digital, you know, and everybody started
19:19
Speaker 3: doing branding and major labels and there was no Apple Music.
19:22
Speaker 3: There was no Spotify, there was no YouTube, there was
19:25
Speaker 3: no way to really get it out there, you know
19:27
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So as great as that project was,
19:30
Speaker 3: it was just an odd time for the music because
19:31
Speaker 3: it was like five years was five? What were you
19:34
Speaker 3: would that come up to five? So there was a
19:37
Speaker 3: few years there were the music business was trying to
19:39
Speaker 3: find its footing again, you know what I mean, trying
19:41
Speaker 3: to find its ground, and you know, the records amazing
19:43
Speaker 3: though we did. We did a great job on Jesus
19:46
Speaker 3: fucking ridiculous. Bro. I could just I could just listen
19:49
Speaker 3: to jizz all day. Man, It's one of my favorites. Ever.
19:52
Speaker 3: First time I heard Wu Tang, I was I was
19:54
Speaker 3: drawn to Risen Jesus.
19:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, was.
19:58
Speaker 1: Like because at that time, you guys are coming up
20:00
Speaker 1: Wu Tang's coming up, Like, but you guys kind of
20:03
Speaker 1: have like a very I would say, similar aesthetic to
20:10
Speaker 1: your production, because I feel like when I think of
20:12
Speaker 1: Mugs production, I just think of like like very very raw,
20:17
Speaker 1: very grimy, like dusty shit as and like Rizza had
20:21
Speaker 1: that same shit in his own way going at the
20:23
Speaker 1: same time.
20:24
Speaker 2: Did you get you and Rizza? Ever?
20:25
Speaker 1: Just like connect early on in the nineties and just
20:28
Speaker 1: geek out on like each other's shit at all.
20:31
Speaker 4: Nah.
20:31
Speaker 3: You know. I had known them from the Tommy Boy Records,
20:33
Speaker 3: Prince Raqeem, you know what I mean. And but I
20:36
Speaker 3: met Riza probably around right after Black Sunday I think
20:40
Speaker 3: came out in ninety three, round the same time as
20:42
Speaker 3: Black Sunday. Yeah, first Wu Tang and we linked up.
20:45
Speaker 3: I went out to a studio and shot line a
20:47
Speaker 3: couple of times and kicked it with him. And then
20:51
Speaker 3: when I started working on the Temple of Boom album,
20:54
Speaker 3: he had got the same manager as us, you know,
20:56
Speaker 3: and I was like, Yo, I want to lock him
20:58
Speaker 3: with riz And I never let nobody produce anything on
21:00
Speaker 3: Cyprus Records at that point, but I was like, yo,
21:02
Speaker 3: let's get them. And originally you guys on that record
21:06
Speaker 3: originally was supposed to be Ray Kwan. Oh shit, we
21:08
Speaker 3: ended up with you Got and you Got killed that verse. Boy,
21:10
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
21:11
Speaker 2: You God's Got. I mean, quiet as camp Man, Mystery
21:14
Speaker 2: of Chess boxing versus fucking Man, one of the greatest.
21:17
Speaker 3: That's fucking amazing, man. I'm a big you Guy fan.
21:20
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's when we first locked in, you know,
21:22
Speaker 3: and and you know, I've just been locked in with
21:26
Speaker 3: with those gentlemen on that side ever since. You know
21:28
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
21:29
Speaker 1: What about I guess the Soul Assassin's Infamous Mob synergy
21:33
Speaker 1: for I mean, going on twenty years now, has been
21:36
Speaker 1: a real thing, like can you kind of speak to
21:39
Speaker 1: like Prodigy and like what it was like to be
21:41
Speaker 1: around him and work so much with.
21:43
Speaker 2: P back then?
21:43
Speaker 3: Yeah? I met I met them through on Bigger Bee
21:46
Speaker 3: rest in Peace, who was working Allowed right, Bigger Bee,
21:49
Speaker 3: Bigger Bee, Yeah, he was doing he was doing the
21:52
Speaker 3: unities out here and he was working Allowed Records with
21:54
Speaker 3: Steve Rifkins.
21:55
Speaker 2: Was Bigger Bee who signed the Dilated single.
21:58
Speaker 3: Bigger b was a big dude. He used to work with.
22:01
Speaker 3: It's not Records different, no guy, Okay, okay, Yeah, Bigger
22:04
Speaker 3: Be was Chase Chase Infinites, Oh cousin God. Actually how
22:08
Speaker 3: I met Chase? And you know, I went out to
22:10
Speaker 3: New York to work on the Sol Assassin record and
22:12
Speaker 3: I met Mob Deep I'm locked in with P and M.
22:15
Speaker 3: And then Bigger was like, yo, you should work with
22:18
Speaker 3: the little homies, the Infamous Mob, And I was like,
22:20
Speaker 3: let's get in the lab and they had that's the
22:22
Speaker 3: first record they did, first record they ever recorded.
22:24
Speaker 2: On your albums on my album.
22:26
Speaker 3: Wow Yeah Yeah. And you know, we locked in. We
22:29
Speaker 3: got along, and I ended up putting Godfather on the
22:32
Speaker 3: second Sol Assassin record. And I did a bunch of
22:34
Speaker 3: demos for them, and and I was gonna get Infamous
22:39
Speaker 3: Mob signed to Interscope with Tom Wally, and one of
22:42
Speaker 3: them got locked up, and Tom Wally goes, listen, man,
22:44
Speaker 3: this is the best demo I heard in the last
22:46
Speaker 3: three or four years. But we're just dealing with this
22:49
Speaker 3: Tupac ship. He's in jail. I can't have another group
22:51
Speaker 3: with somebody in jail. I'm sorry, man. So then I
22:53
Speaker 3: just said, fellas, you know, go do your thing. And
22:55
Speaker 3: they end up getting signed up there wherever they got
22:57
Speaker 3: signed and put their ship out that.
23:00
Speaker 5: That's kind of crazy right here.
23:02
Speaker 3: I'll play the demos. Wonder the demos are crazy. I
23:05
Speaker 3: can imagine demos are crazy? Man? Yo?
23:07
Speaker 2: Were you? I always wonder like.
23:12
Speaker 1: There had to have been so many hypothetical albums that
23:16
Speaker 1: you started with people that maybe never came out. You
23:20
Speaker 1: talked about the demos, your hard drive of just like
23:23
Speaker 1: what IF's gotta be crazy.
23:25
Speaker 3: Yeah. One record that's banging to this day is to
23:27
Speaker 3: call the Wild Album. Group I had signed from Harlem
23:30
Speaker 3: from the Polo Grounds, put out a couple of singles
23:33
Speaker 3: with them. They're on the fourth Cypress album Baron Rix,
23:39
Speaker 3: And we had them signed to Columbia, and Colombia wanted
23:42
Speaker 3: a commercial single and it wasn't. They didn't want to
23:44
Speaker 3: band to doing commercial singles. So they got released, and
23:48
Speaker 3: you know, they had their internal problems. They broke up
23:50
Speaker 3: and I went I just stayed getting busy, went my way.
23:52
Speaker 3: They went their way. But the record's crazy. The album's crazy.
23:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:56
Speaker 1: I can imagine, dude, TF if you could do and
24:00
Speaker 1: you obviously you and two eleven got dope music together,
24:02
Speaker 1: but if you could, let's say, wish list, homie list,
24:06
Speaker 1: whatever it is, who would you do a joint album
24:08
Speaker 1: with that you haven't done on with so far?
24:10
Speaker 4: Oh damn, let me see that's tough.
24:22
Speaker 5: Probably uh, probably Ice Cold Bishop.
24:29
Speaker 2: I'd be crazy.
24:31
Speaker 5: Probably Ice Cold Bishop, because we got, uh, we got
24:37
Speaker 5: a lot of records together. So that's that's my reason
24:39
Speaker 5: saying that, because you know, and I like, I like
24:42
Speaker 5: how he puts together. He puts together good bodies of work. Uh,
24:47
Speaker 5: and just based off the chemistry of when the records
24:49
Speaker 5: we have done, I think that'll go crazy.
24:52
Speaker 2: I feel like you and Crime Apple will go crazy.
24:55
Speaker 3: We got to join.
24:56
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, we got it.
24:57
Speaker 2: Me and crime is I feel like that.
25:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, me and Crime we go crazy. That we got
25:02
Speaker 5: We got a lot of shit in the cut too.
25:04
Speaker 2: Little ten ten piece, Yeah, we got it.
25:06
Speaker 3: We got a lot of half.
25:07
Speaker 2: Mugs, half evidence. Evendence just dropped the Crime. I'd be crazy.
25:09
Speaker 3: I was banging.
25:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, ever been in his bag?
25:13
Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys decided to do this album. And
25:15
Speaker 1: most people will do an album, they'll do a music
25:18
Speaker 1: video or three or something like that. You guys decided
25:20
Speaker 1: to do a forty minute movie. What was the decision
25:25
Speaker 1: where it was like, Okay, we got to get this
25:29
Speaker 1: creative thought out in a different way.
25:32
Speaker 2: And do a movie.
25:33
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it was like, first of all, this
25:36
Speaker 3: is a talented man and I respect him, and I
25:38
Speaker 3: was like he's worth putting the time and energy into.
25:40
Speaker 3: I want to see him blow the fuck up. So yeah, anyway,
25:43
Speaker 3: I can do anything from my side, and I'm gonna
25:48
Speaker 3: do it. So I was like, Yo, this record is
25:50
Speaker 3: just bigger than a record. I want to give this
25:52
Speaker 3: record some legs and be able to and you know,
25:54
Speaker 3: be able to fucking spread on wings on this one
25:56
Speaker 3: and take it around the world not only as a
25:59
Speaker 3: as an album, but a movie because I've seen what
26:01
Speaker 3: it did for the LST solo sets of record, and
26:03
Speaker 3: so I told him the idea and he was like, bet,
26:05
Speaker 3: let's go, you know what I mean. So we went
26:07
Speaker 3: in knocked out a forty minute movie with Jason Goldwatch.
26:12
Speaker 3: And you know, we've been touring the movie. Took it
26:16
Speaker 3: to New York last week, had it at LA, We're
26:18
Speaker 3: taking it to Japan next week, come back into Chicago,
26:22
Speaker 3: San Francisco, San Diego. Then we're gonna release it May
26:25
Speaker 3: twenty second on YouTube tube.
26:28
Speaker 1: Yeh yeah, it's dope. It's dope. Were you how did
26:31
Speaker 1: you feel good about acting? Nah?
26:34
Speaker 5: So we're dealing with mugs. I'm like, whatever you want
26:38
Speaker 5: to do, let's do it.
26:39
Speaker 2: You feel me.
26:40
Speaker 5: I just really took the back seat cause you know,
26:43
Speaker 5: I've been running running around doing this shit alone. So
26:46
Speaker 5: I'm used to putting everything together and lining everything up,
26:49
Speaker 5: so you know, to just sit back and you know.
26:52
Speaker 3: Just absorb everything.
26:54
Speaker 5: And pay attention to you know, like even the strategies.
26:59
Speaker 5: You feel me like, strategies is a little bit different
27:01
Speaker 5: than time and this, you know, So it was dope
27:06
Speaker 5: to just be like, I'm with whatever you want to do.
27:09
Speaker 3: And you know, he not only making music, but just
27:12
Speaker 3: as as a motherfucker about his business. He's on time,
27:14
Speaker 3: he's on point, he's got great ideas. And I was like,
27:17
Speaker 3: this is worth putting the time and energy because I
27:19
Speaker 3: just respect the way he moves, you know what I mean.
27:22
Speaker 3: Be there at professional, be there at twelve o'clock. He's
27:24
Speaker 3: there at twelve forty five. And I'm the same way.
27:26
Speaker 3: So in a lot of people move like that, you
27:28
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
27:30
Speaker 3: it's my bro. Let's go. Let's put the full court
27:32
Speaker 3: press on this one.
27:33
Speaker 1: You guys have an insane amount of awesome. For people
27:37
Speaker 1: who haven't seen the movie because it's not out yet,
27:39
Speaker 1: you get were able to screen it.
27:40
Speaker 2: But the amount of crazy guns in this movie, it
27:42
Speaker 2: is some GTA shit. You say, explain to me how y'all.
27:44
Speaker 2: First of all, some of these guns look like some
27:48
Speaker 2: call of dud wild shit.
27:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a home in Las Vegas, something called
27:53
Speaker 3: Darker Lions who actually makes custom guns.
27:55
Speaker 2: That's what I look like it.
27:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, he makes custom guns. That's his thing. Man. So
27:59
Speaker 3: we tapped in with him him and he brought all
28:01
Speaker 3: the customs out. You know what I'm saying. He brought
28:03
Speaker 3: out the he brought out the Chucky gun Chucky AKA,
28:08
Speaker 3: he put the big easy you know what I mean.
28:10
Speaker 3: I got the sol Assassins. He's making me the sol
28:12
Speaker 3: Assassins guns right now. Man, all custom ship man, you
28:16
Speaker 3: know you can go fully auto in Nevada too, for sure.
28:18
Speaker 2: In Nevada is it's the wild wild West.
28:20
Speaker 3: Right right right. So we went out there and did
28:22
Speaker 3: all that stuff. All that all that was filmed out
28:24
Speaker 3: in the bat.
28:24
Speaker 2: Do you guys crush a Cadillac in this movie?
28:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's something to put towards the production cost.
28:31
Speaker 2: Was like, whose idea is it to like, yo, let's
28:33
Speaker 2: go find a fucking Cadillac A just take it out.
28:35
Speaker 3: It was all of us like we came to like,
28:37
Speaker 3: what do we want to do? So we have bullet
28:39
Speaker 3: points of all these ideas and then you know, TF
28:41
Speaker 3: would hit us?
28:42
Speaker 1: Yeah?
28:42
Speaker 3: I found this, I found this. I'd be like I
28:44
Speaker 3: found this goalwatch would be like I found this, and
28:46
Speaker 3: then we started trying to see like what works with
28:49
Speaker 3: the budget, what's doable, you know, and what's actually in
28:52
Speaker 3: the vicinity where we don't got to travel. One of
28:54
Speaker 3: the things we did with Death Valley was we went
28:57
Speaker 3: to San Francisco, Oakland, Death Valley, the Palm Springs, Joshua Tree,
29:02
Speaker 3: back to La back to San Diego. It was a
29:04
Speaker 3: lot of moving around.
29:05
Speaker 2: Was that where the desert stuff was shot?
29:06
Speaker 3: Yeah?
29:07
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I w wasn't it was Nevada because I know,
29:09
Speaker 1: like a lot of takes place in Vegas.
29:10
Speaker 3: Right right right, So this one we was like, man,
29:13
Speaker 3: that was a lot of moving around. Let's try to
29:15
Speaker 3: do try to do this one in three spots, three
29:19
Speaker 3: locations so we don't have to move around so much.
29:21
Speaker 3: So within that concept, we was like, well, how about
29:23
Speaker 3: if we repeat the scene three times in each location.
29:26
Speaker 3: So that was that was the beginning of that. So
29:30
Speaker 3: you know, and then you know, you start with a
29:34
Speaker 3: game plan and then it starts taking on a life
29:36
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Speaker 1: art because I think some people will just like put
31:08
Speaker 1: music out and their income stream is whatever Spotify or
31:12
Speaker 1: Apple Music pays them. And you know, sometimes artists can
31:16
Speaker 1: get jaded if, like, you know, they put some music
31:19
Speaker 1: out and it doesn't do what they want. But there
31:21
Speaker 1: are other ways to monetize the art if you will.
31:25
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys have shown a good way
31:26
Speaker 1: of doing that. Alchemist is you know, with the vinyl
31:29
Speaker 1: and all this shit. But what is the grand plan
31:32
Speaker 1: with the movie? You say it's going to be coming
31:33
Speaker 1: out on TB. Is there going to be any physical
31:35
Speaker 1: copies being sold, like some special edition.
31:37
Speaker 3: Limited you know, yeah, I'm gonna do some VHS tapes.
31:40
Speaker 3: Gotta be fired, you know, straight VHS tapes but this
31:43
Speaker 3: project going in and I told you, if this ain't
31:45
Speaker 3: a money making project, like what we're doing, is we
31:48
Speaker 3: about to set the table for the next things we're doing?
31:50
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, that would have felt.
31:52
Speaker 3: This is bigger than nickels and dimes, you know what
31:53
Speaker 3: I mean. We make money, and we know going into
31:56
Speaker 3: this thing, that's like, let's set the table for the
31:58
Speaker 3: next seven or eight projects we have coming next year.
32:00
Speaker 3: And then plus you know when we team up, you know,
32:03
Speaker 3: these records go away in a week sometimes, you know.
32:06
Speaker 3: So I was like, now we're going to give this
32:07
Speaker 3: record some legs. So usually the run is you know,
32:09
Speaker 3: you do the album, you do the press, you do
32:10
Speaker 3: the tour, right, you know what I mean. So we're
32:12
Speaker 3: doing all that, But now we got a movie to
32:14
Speaker 3: tour as besides us physically touring doing live shows, we
32:18
Speaker 3: have a movie to tour as well.
32:19
Speaker 1: With this for sure, So you know, that's a whole
32:21
Speaker 1: different other way to touch people. Like you're doing theaters,
32:23
Speaker 1: you're doing yeah Q And.
32:26
Speaker 3: So you know, we probably in the fourth week of
32:28
Speaker 3: promo in this and we got another six weeks to go.
32:30
Speaker 1: Still, what is it about? Because Japan loves soul Assassins. Yeah,
32:35
Speaker 1: and Cyprus and everything. I mean, what is it about that?
32:37
Speaker 1: Just that country that is just because you know, for
32:40
Speaker 1: people who don't know, there is like a sub genre
32:43
Speaker 1: or a subculture in Japan of like Chicano life, like
32:46
Speaker 1: Chicano culture out there, but Sol Assassins specific.
32:49
Speaker 3: Cartoons out there right now doing a Solo Assassin cartoon
32:52
Speaker 3: car show right now, low ride of car show. He's
32:55
Speaker 3: out there. That's a week on the car show. So
32:57
Speaker 3: we've been going out there since the early two thousands,
32:59
Speaker 3: Like ourtoon would go out there for three months and
33:01
Speaker 3: Tattoo and I would go out there with it for
33:03
Speaker 3: a month and kick with him my DJ underground spots,
33:06
Speaker 3: just playing soul music, funk music. So we you know,
33:10
Speaker 3: we've been out we've been going out there for a while,
33:11
Speaker 3: touching base with them, and they just they love our culture.
33:15
Speaker 3: They love music, they love the fashion, they love the tattoos,
33:18
Speaker 3: they love the photography, they love the cars, you know
33:21
Speaker 3: what I mean. They love West Coast culture specifically, you
33:23
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So, you know, being the soul
33:25
Speaker 3: Assassins tap into all those realms. Man, We've hit them
33:28
Speaker 3: from so many different angles over the last twenty years,
33:31
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I told Tia I
33:33
Speaker 3: had a show out there. I had a show book,
33:34
Speaker 3: so I was like, Yo, come to my show with me.
33:38
Speaker 3: And with that, you know, I'm doing a drum machine.
33:41
Speaker 3: I'm doing the Rolling four or four with Undefeated, the
33:44
Speaker 3: one coming out. So we went and talked to Undefeated
33:46
Speaker 3: and they was like, yo, fucks and y'all gonna be
33:48
Speaker 3: out there. Let's do an in store, let's drop a shirt,
33:51
Speaker 3: Let's do a party. So you know we're doing that too,
33:53
Speaker 3: and we're gonna run around shoot some videos out there.
33:56
Speaker 3: Tap in. I'm doing another collab with with only Hunter
34:00
Speaker 3: for og brand out there, you know what I mean.
34:02
Speaker 3: And TF made some bomb ass limited editions Japan only
34:06
Speaker 3: merch bringing out this, so you know Mayhem's pulling up
34:10
Speaker 3: with us. May So you know we about the concerts
34:13
Speaker 3: about to be crazy out there, you know what I'm saying.
34:15
Speaker 1: Just on some nerdy producer shit. You just mentioned your
34:18
Speaker 1: collab that's coming out. But I'm curious because the hot
34:20
Speaker 1: piece of equipment in the game right now is this
34:24
Speaker 1: new MPC, the NPC one.
34:27
Speaker 2: Have you been able to mess with it at all?
34:29
Speaker 3: No? I would just I just looked at it on
34:31
Speaker 3: the plane yesterday flying back to LA So I think
34:33
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy me one, and I would have it
34:35
Speaker 3: in the collection even if I don't use it, you
34:37
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
34:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was hanging with Tight out side and he
34:40
Speaker 1: was just making beats and like we're at Paramount and
34:42
Speaker 1: there's like a little quiet room in Paramount and he
34:44
Speaker 1: just has everyone's on, just making beats and he's like,
34:45
Speaker 1: you don't, like, all you need is this. It's kind
34:47
Speaker 1: of crazy, it is, And it has the same like
34:50
Speaker 1: aesthetic as like the OG two thousand.
34:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, the two thousand.
34:53
Speaker 3: I'm seeing on somebody was on it. You can get
34:55
Speaker 3: SP twelve mode, you can get MP sixty mode in
34:57
Speaker 3: P two thousand mode. Like it has all those different thing.
35:00
Speaker 1: I wonder for you man as a producer, Like how
35:03
Speaker 1: a magazine? I really miss a Scratch because we had
35:05
Speaker 1: Scratch Magazine and it was like the one publication that
35:09
Speaker 1: highlighted producers and like their equipment and shit, Like how
35:12
Speaker 1: cool was it to have that around at that time?
35:14
Speaker 3: Like, oh, Scratch and Mixed mag I used to dig
35:17
Speaker 3: into them and that's how I found out about equipment.
35:19
Speaker 3: You know, pre pre internet and all this stuff we
35:23
Speaker 3: got now. But Yo, I would be in the magazine.
35:25
Speaker 3: I'd be up at the magazine shop every month by magazine,
35:27
Speaker 3: sitting in there for hours reading magazines, you know, come
35:30
Speaker 3: home with a stack this big. So I kind of
35:32
Speaker 3: do miss those magazines. Man.
35:34
Speaker 1: Yo, I think last time you ran, I asked you
35:36
Speaker 1: your personal top producers. Ever, I want to, like, let's
35:40
Speaker 1: take it a level deeper in just the nerd talk.
35:44
Speaker 1: Who do you think give me your top four sample
35:49
Speaker 1: choppers in hip hop history?
35:53
Speaker 3: Molly mal number one for me, Jay Dilla, Dela Dela
36:00
Speaker 3: for sure, mad Lib Alet, Alchemist you know, and Saig
36:07
Speaker 3: you know the Bomb Squad, Yeah, you know those of
36:11
Speaker 3: mine Like where I come from is you know the
36:14
Speaker 3: the b Bop RAMLZ single and the Wild Style record
36:17
Speaker 3: was big inspiration for me, along with EPM D, Larry Smith,
36:21
Speaker 3: Molly Mal, bdp E P M D, Ultra mag You
36:27
Speaker 3: put all that together and you know, with some led
36:29
Speaker 3: Zeppelin and some Albert King. You run that through my
36:32
Speaker 3: filter and spit that back out. You got Cypress Hill
36:34
Speaker 3: A lot of my sounds, you know.
36:37
Speaker 1: Do you We talked a little bit about the movie
36:40
Speaker 1: and how you guys did a really good job of
36:42
Speaker 1: like kind of infusing AI into it without taking away
36:46
Speaker 1: from the art.
36:47
Speaker 2: Is it possible to do that in music?
36:50
Speaker 3: You know, I've heard some people telling me that they've
36:53
Speaker 3: been using AI LA to recreate samples or samples they
36:56
Speaker 3: can't clear. They're putting the samples in there and just
36:58
Speaker 3: flipping up a little bit so they can actually don't
37:00
Speaker 3: have to give the master away spend twenty grand on
37:02
Speaker 3: the sample. So I've heard, I've heard they've been doing it.
37:05
Speaker 3: I've yet to tap into it myself, but I think,
37:08
Speaker 3: you know, you can't fight technology. It's always going to
37:12
Speaker 3: be here. It ain't going nowhere. So if you need
37:14
Speaker 3: to use it as a tool in your toolbox, use
37:16
Speaker 3: it because you know, I guess for musicians playing music,
37:20
Speaker 3: when sampling came out, it was probably the same thing
37:23
Speaker 3: for them. What the fuck is that shit? You know
37:25
Speaker 3: that ain't musician shit. So you know, looking at AI
37:28
Speaker 3: in the same way as this is just another tool
37:30
Speaker 3: for what we do and get around the sample clearance
37:32
Speaker 3: situation is something that has some potential for sure.
37:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is the biggest upside is like,
37:39
Speaker 1: even if you're like you have an idea, like let's
37:42
Speaker 1: say you couldn't find it, don't call me lucky sample
37:45
Speaker 1: to flip, you know what I'm saying, Like in a
37:46
Speaker 1: hypothetical world, like could like AI crank out like a
37:50
Speaker 1: dry vocal or something that you could chop and make
37:53
Speaker 1: your own and then you don't have to worry about
37:56
Speaker 1: sample clearances and giving up a piece of the record.
38:00
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of to me, like the slither that
38:02
Speaker 1: like makes sense from a producer, It's like, Yo, we
38:04
Speaker 1: need a choir. Well maybe I can't afford a choir,
38:06
Speaker 1: and maybe I can't find the choir at won on
38:08
Speaker 1: this old gospel record.
38:10
Speaker 2: How can you know what I mean?
38:11
Speaker 3: Like absolutely, that's a little shit like that. It's just sampling,
38:15
Speaker 3: sampling two point zero, you know what I'm saying, right,
38:18
Speaker 3: what about you?
38:19
Speaker 2: Tf uh?
38:21
Speaker 5: I think the same the same ship because like like
38:27
Speaker 5: with videos, like with videos post production, like oh we
38:31
Speaker 5: can't get this, we can't find this location, like even
38:34
Speaker 5: if you can't find it with stock footage, you know
38:37
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So now with the AI generating, you
38:42
Speaker 5: can generate music. Now you could go find something stock
38:46
Speaker 5: a make something sound like this. I think I think
38:48
Speaker 5: it's kind of dope. At the same time, it's still
38:51
Speaker 5: kind of like I need some raw.
38:54
Speaker 3: You know.
38:54
Speaker 5: I still like I still like the raw feeling, but
38:57
Speaker 5: I think it is I think I think it's dope
38:59
Speaker 5: where we're at, you know, like like Mull said, like
39:02
Speaker 5: we gotta you can't get lost. You can't get left
39:05
Speaker 5: because it's going It's only gonna keep avall.
39:07
Speaker 3: You cannot fight technology, man. You know, there was the
39:10
Speaker 3: dude sitting there with the horse and buggy one day
39:12
Speaker 3: and the car drove by and they was laughing at it.
39:14
Speaker 2: Sitting there with the DJ.
39:15
Speaker 3: Shit.
39:15
Speaker 1: I feel like, like DJ, I remember you probably remember this.
39:17
Speaker 1: All the DJ used to shoot on Serado.
39:19
Speaker 3: Yo. I started DJing again because of Serato.
39:22
Speaker 2: It makes it easier. You don't have to carry all.
39:23
Speaker 3: These I had. I was so deep into production that
39:26
Speaker 3: they would like come to a club and I was like,
39:27
Speaker 3: I don't got the records. And then when Sarada came out,
39:29
Speaker 3: I started doing. It made it exciting for me to
39:32
Speaker 3: DJ because I could have my remixes in there, my
39:34
Speaker 3: own songs that I didn't have on vinyls, you know
39:36
Speaker 3: what I mean, And.
39:37
Speaker 2: Before you had to have it pressed on Vinyl to
39:38
Speaker 2: play at the club.
39:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know there's always that opposite part, like
39:42
Speaker 3: a bunch of weenie started DJing, just downloading songs and
39:45
Speaker 3: sitting in there, sitting there with Shazam copying sets. But
39:48
Speaker 3: you know, everything has both sides. It's always like that.
39:51
Speaker 3: So I just focus on the positive side and what
39:53
Speaker 3: I need to do and what my objective is and
39:55
Speaker 3: and you know, what my goals are, and just move
39:57
Speaker 3: forward like that. I don't give a fuck what nobody
39:59
Speaker 3: says about nothing, because no matter what you do, some
40:01
Speaker 3: donkey ass motherfucker got some shit to say.
40:04
Speaker 1: When do you know it's time to like do a
40:08
Speaker 1: new soul Assassins like album.
40:11
Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't sure I was going to do
40:13
Speaker 3: another one on the third one, but like.
40:15
Speaker 2: Is so Assassin's four Is that a thought already?
40:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna I want to find an
40:20
Speaker 3: interesting angle because the reason I wasn't gonna do a
40:22
Speaker 3: third one was, you know, the first one was pre mixtapes.
40:26
Speaker 3: Then once the mixtapes came out, it was like.
40:29
Speaker 1: Damn near like one of the first compilations like that
40:31
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I kind of remember as a kid.
40:34
Speaker 3: So you know, if my record's coming out on Sony Music.
40:37
Speaker 3: You know, people want to get paid or the other
40:38
Speaker 3: labels wanted to get paid for their artists. If it
40:40
Speaker 3: was a mixtape, they do it for free. So it
40:42
Speaker 3: got harder to do those records. So I was like,
40:44
Speaker 3: I'm not doing another one. But I was sitting there
40:46
Speaker 3: and I had all these beats man, and I had
40:48
Speaker 3: songs with people sitting around, one or two songs, had
40:51
Speaker 3: three songs with Bodie, you know. I had Freddie Gibbs song,
40:54
Speaker 3: but I didn't have Scarface on it yet. So I
40:57
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, Oh, that record was hard.
40:59
Speaker 3: I think it's time to do another Soul Assessin's record.
41:01
Speaker 3: And then at the same time, I was like, I
41:04
Speaker 3: need to make this bigger than just a record. That's
41:05
Speaker 3: why we did the film as well. But I'm sure
41:08
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a fourth one, but I'm gonna find
41:10
Speaker 3: a unique way to make it that it isn't just
41:13
Speaker 3: what I've done in the past, So you know, maybe,
41:17
Speaker 3: uh shit, I'm not sure, but I'm gonna figure it
41:20
Speaker 3: out for sure, something different, something unique.
41:22
Speaker 2: I asked him who he'd want to do a joint
41:24
Speaker 2: album with?
41:24
Speaker 3: What about you?
41:24
Speaker 1: Man, you have so many collaborative projects with so many artists,
41:27
Speaker 1: who have you yet to connect with it?
41:29
Speaker 3: You're just a fan of Shade shot Eh moment, that's
41:33
Speaker 3: my dream?
41:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I feel like Shade is the one concert
41:38
Speaker 1: that like, if she went on tour again, there probably
41:40
Speaker 1: isn't a dollar amount that I wouldn't pay to just
41:42
Speaker 1: locked down some tickets.
41:44
Speaker 3: You know, the last time she was on tour, I
41:46
Speaker 3: missed it. I slept and I would. I feel the
41:48
Speaker 3: exact same with them.
41:49
Speaker 2: Like, man, don't let her ever go on Vegas residency
41:53
Speaker 2: or something. I'm like, just take my money all day.
41:56
Speaker 3: And I heard she's you know, rumor is she has
41:58
Speaker 3: a project coming out, so I could maybe she'll one
42:00
Speaker 3: more run for us.
42:01
Speaker 1: Gotta be dope. Thatta be dope, man? What about what
42:05
Speaker 1: about when you guys know it's time to come together
42:07
Speaker 1: and do do the cypress think? I mean, obviously you're
42:10
Speaker 1: so busy, be reals busy guy, man. Yeah, you guys
42:13
Speaker 1: have so much going on. Is there is there a
42:17
Speaker 1: point in time or you guys are like, hey, you
42:19
Speaker 1: know it's the forty year anniversary or the thirty year anniversary,
42:22
Speaker 1: or we got to come together, and we got like,
42:24
Speaker 1: when when does the Cypress hill Hat come on for mugs?
42:26
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, man, I'm not I'm not really sure.
42:29
Speaker 3: You know. We'll see though. Yeah, you know, I do
42:32
Speaker 3: have I have just put my all my old ship together,
42:39
Speaker 3: and I got a bunch of songs. I found a
42:42
Speaker 3: bunch of old Cypres stuff recorded around Temple of Boom time,
42:44
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm thinking of what I'm gonna do
42:48
Speaker 3: with it, you know, So I have my archive. I
42:52
Speaker 3: had an archivist come and like put everything in order,
42:55
Speaker 3: write everything down, so we was gonna get We was
42:57
Speaker 3: gonna put it in u c l A be pre
42:59
Speaker 3: covid because they have no hip hop, they have blues rocks.
43:02
Speaker 3: So and what my goal is we're talking to Berkeley
43:05
Speaker 3: right now. What my goal is is to take that
43:07
Speaker 3: Cypress record all the unreleased songs, which is the Lost Temples,
43:11
Speaker 3: and put it in the archive at the school. So
43:13
Speaker 3: if anybody wants to hear it, they got to check
43:16
Speaker 3: their phone in, they got to make the pilgrimage to
43:18
Speaker 3: the school, and they can go in and listen to it.
43:19
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
43:20
Speaker 3: You know. Some people like just put it out online
43:22
Speaker 3: for the fans, and I'm like, yeah, but then that's online.
43:25
Speaker 2: That's boring and it doesn't make it special.
43:27
Speaker 3: But you know, if I could have this mystique in
43:29
Speaker 3: this folklore behind them where people will make the pilgrimage
43:31
Speaker 3: from around the world to go check out the projects
43:34
Speaker 3: and sit down and see all the pictures and see
43:36
Speaker 3: because I got all my notes from the records, like
43:38
Speaker 3: ad eight away change the kid. You know, if they
43:40
Speaker 3: could sit down and look at the notes and see
43:41
Speaker 3: the recording process and hear this music, I think that's
43:45
Speaker 3: the that's the angle I'm going.
43:47
Speaker 1: Well, that's even something you could like low key do
43:49
Speaker 1: because you know, like you'll see art museums travel right
43:52
Speaker 1: where you'll see, like you know, a famous artist, like
43:56
Speaker 1: let's say there's like a boss yacht exhibit that travels
43:58
Speaker 1: for like a year, Like imagine it, Like you guys
44:00
Speaker 1: did that over like a two or three year span,
44:03
Speaker 1: where like Yo for the whole entire month of December,
44:06
Speaker 1: if you're in Tokyo, go to the Tokyo Arts whatever
44:09
Speaker 1: it is.
44:10
Speaker 3: Oh, just have listening stations. You could hear each song.
44:12
Speaker 3: Go to them.
44:13
Speaker 2: Well like the experience you're talking.
44:14
Speaker 3: About, Yeah, we just move it around absolutely.
44:17
Speaker 2: Like, you know, that's something I feel like, that's like dope,
44:20
Speaker 2: that'd be Yeah.
44:21
Speaker 3: So, you know some I had a couple of cats
44:23
Speaker 3: at the labels like you gotta do this, you know,
44:24
Speaker 3: the fantas need to hear this. I'm like, nah, man this,
44:26
Speaker 3: I want this to be right. I want I want
44:28
Speaker 3: this ship to last forever and and just a new
44:30
Speaker 3: way to put shit out and be creative and just
44:32
Speaker 3: create that folklore.
44:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. How awesome was it?
44:36
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty One of my favorite documentaries was The La
44:38
Speaker 1: Originals one because I do feel like Estevan and mister Cartoon,
44:42
Speaker 1: especially Estevon man shot to him. He's such a good guy,
44:44
Speaker 1: such underrated, underappreciated icons in the culture, and I felt
44:48
Speaker 1: like that documentary was so important to tell their story.
44:52
Speaker 2: How dope was that?
44:53
Speaker 3: Amazing?
44:53
Speaker 2: Yo?
44:54
Speaker 3: To see my brother shine man, and to see where
44:56
Speaker 3: they came from, and to see what they're doing. You know,
44:59
Speaker 3: you see Cartoon doing Disney Nike Super Bowl commercials, you
45:03
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and like a Steve On doing Chevy,
45:06
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, doing fucking Disney as well,
45:09
Speaker 3: and just like.
45:10
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the most iconic photos ever.
45:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, is La fingers.
45:14
Speaker 2: Like when I was at the pop out, I bought
45:16
Speaker 2: the PG lane es.
45:19
Speaker 3: They just did a big art show in It was
45:21
Speaker 3: a La art show in in London. Him Death for
45:25
Speaker 3: and Chaz pulled up and it was just all La
45:27
Speaker 3: lifestyle lesson for a month, sold out everything.
45:30
Speaker 1: What were your Well, obviously you're a lot more closer
45:32
Speaker 1: to TD, but I'm curious, just like mugs, you guys
45:35
Speaker 1: that were kind of wrapped up in your own version
45:37
Speaker 1: of like different hip hop beefs. I'd say, back in
45:40
Speaker 1: the day, what was your just from being a hip
45:43
Speaker 1: hop head man? What was your thoughts on just the
45:46
Speaker 1: entire Kendrick Drake thing?
45:48
Speaker 3: It was?
45:49
Speaker 2: It was I thought it was dope. I thought we
45:50
Speaker 2: got great love this dope.
45:52
Speaker 3: I loved it, and I'm team Kendrick all day, you
45:54
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I was like, yeah, that
45:58
Speaker 3: ship was five Kendricks, Beast Joe and that song he dropped, man,
46:03
Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is out of here. I mean,
46:06
Speaker 3: you know, since since since kores one and mc shan,
46:11
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, since since while starting the
46:13
Speaker 3: Coal Crush and the Fantastic Freaks, you know what I mean?
46:15
Speaker 3: This this, this was built off of that just battling,
46:18
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, None of that ship went
46:20
Speaker 3: to the streets and nothing. So you know, but I
46:23
Speaker 3: loved it. It was it was exciting for for this game.
46:26
Speaker 3: I think we needed it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I thought it was dope. And then I
46:28
Speaker 1: even just thought, like even the Kendrick approach of like
46:31
Speaker 1: hopping on like an Alchemists sample flip, just doing like
46:37
Speaker 1: a version of a hip hop horror movie like this record.
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Speaker 5: I found out not too long ago that that was
46:44
Speaker 5: sample from that uh that keep it thorough?
46:47
Speaker 2: Ah, it was yeah, same sample.
46:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy.
46:52
Speaker 2: I mean al did both beats. Yeah, So it makes sense.
46:57
Speaker 1: Were you kind of because I feel like Mugs, you're
46:59
Speaker 1: kind of a guy who's like I would say, the
47:06
Speaker 1: you're very I feel like you're a unifying force in music.
47:09
Speaker 1: So when there's like, let's say the ice cube cypress thing,
47:12
Speaker 1: are you in the background trying to mend fences and
47:15
Speaker 1: make sure it doesn't get out of control?
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Speaker 3: You know, at that time, we was young, and we
47:19
Speaker 3: was aggressive, you know what I mean. It was a
47:20
Speaker 3: different time. We was young dudes, man just ready to
47:24
Speaker 3: go to war at that time, you know what I mean.
47:25
Speaker 3: So no, not at that time.
47:27
Speaker 1: What about cause you have a relationship with Everlast and
47:30
Speaker 1: Evidence and you have a relationship with eminem Right, did
47:35
Speaker 1: you try to step in in the background of that
47:37
Speaker 1: thing and get people on the phone and make sure Nah?
47:41
Speaker 3: I was like, what the hell y'all doing? Right? Sat
47:43
Speaker 3: background was like, what are y'all doing? Man? Stop? You
47:45
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Stop being so sensitive? Man, don't
47:48
Speaker 3: fuck with him? And then bro, y'all don't want that smoke.
47:49
Speaker 1: That was such a random time, yeah, because there was
47:51
Speaker 1: like ev did the searching for Bobby Fisher and then
47:54
Speaker 1: every Yeah, that was just and like, you know, I'm
47:56
Speaker 1: a dilated guy, so I was like, oh.
47:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. Yeah. I didn't really know what's going on,
48:00
Speaker 3: you know, but in hindsight, in hindsight, having an emotional
48:05
Speaker 3: maturity at this point, if I could look back, I
48:07
Speaker 3: would have just got Cube and go, hey, let's make
48:08
Speaker 3: an album. Let's do Friday's Part two, Cypress and you guys,
48:12
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I would have had a
48:13
Speaker 3: different approach on it. But you know, it was a
48:16
Speaker 3: different time, man. Of course, because I'm the biggest fucking
48:20
Speaker 3: ice Cube fan in the world. He's in my top three,
48:23
Speaker 3: you know, as he should be. Yo, that man's amazing,
48:25
Speaker 3: bro amazing.
48:27
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, that would have been. That would
48:30
Speaker 1: have been a special moment. If if somehow we could
48:32
Speaker 1: go back and be like, Yo, nineteen ninety five we
48:35
Speaker 1: had an ice cube cypress.
48:36
Speaker 3: Record, Yo, that'd have went crazy.
48:38
Speaker 2: Crazy, man.
48:39
Speaker 1: So look, the album is out, the movie's coming out
48:42
Speaker 1: for everybody to see.
48:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna put it out worldwide May twenty second,
48:46
Speaker 3: worldwide YouTube. We're gonna be a live on YouTube with
48:49
Speaker 3: a Q and a, a Q and A and everything
48:50
Speaker 3: on there, you know what I mean. Like I said,
48:52
Speaker 3: it's the first hip hop sci fi gamer movie. You know,
48:56
Speaker 3: going into the movie, you know, we went into it,
49:03
Speaker 3: you know, kind of like not showing one hundred percent
49:05
Speaker 3: what we were gonna do, but it kind of like
49:07
Speaker 3: took on a life of its own as we went on, man,
49:09
Speaker 3: and we created a masterpiece show. You know, it's a
49:12
Speaker 3: little mind fuck at the end. Man, I think y'all
49:14
Speaker 3: motherfucker's gonna fuck with this shit?
49:15
Speaker 1: Was it like the whole plan the whole time to
49:18
Speaker 1: do like a longer because you know, a lot of
49:19
Speaker 1: times we'll see short films and this is a forty
49:21
Speaker 1: minute joint.
49:22
Speaker 3: Now we started at twenty involving We started at twenty
49:24
Speaker 3: because it's expensive and it's hard to shoot a film.
49:26
Speaker 3: We didn't have a script. Even when Frankie Frankie's doing
49:29
Speaker 3: his lines, there was in a script. Everything's off off top.
49:33
Speaker 3: You know. One thing well about this film going into
49:36
Speaker 3: the film, AI was whack. I told gold Watch no
49:39
Speaker 3: AI one. So we go into the film. We shot it,
49:43
Speaker 3: you know, and we were supposed to get into one
49:45
Speaker 3: of our B and b's at twelve in the morning.
49:47
Speaker 3: We didn't get until nine at night. We didn't get
49:49
Speaker 3: to shoot all the shots we had, so we had
49:50
Speaker 3: some big gaps in this film. We didn't know how
49:52
Speaker 3: we were gonna film and we we're gonna just do
49:53
Speaker 3: some vocal overdubs, you know, and tell a story. Gold
49:56
Speaker 3: Watch was against that. So, you know, he started working Cartel,
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Speaker 3: which is one of the top ten AI places in
50:02
Speaker 3: the world. The guys have, like I was saying earlier,
50:04
Speaker 3: five Navidia chips and the computers which are fifteen thousand
50:07
Speaker 3: dollars a chip. So one day he sent me a
50:09
Speaker 3: scene with the Chinese guy with the stripper, and I
50:13
Speaker 3: was like, yo, that's crazy, he goes, that's AI, and
50:16
Speaker 3: so he went backwards and filled in all these gaps
50:19
Speaker 3: to fill the film, to fill the film. So you know,
50:22
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I can fuck with this now
50:23
Speaker 3: because it looks real and it makes sense. It ain't
50:25
Speaker 3: the shit you're seeing on Instagram.
50:27
Speaker 2: I thought it.
50:28
Speaker 1: I feel like I was telling him. I was like, yo,
50:31
Speaker 1: I knew the parts that were AI, but it didn't
50:33
Speaker 1: feel yucky, if.
50:35
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
50:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, how everybody was going nuts on the ground for
50:37
Speaker 3: a minute, and I was like, and you know, talking
50:40
Speaker 3: to one of the top guys in the world. He's
50:42
Speaker 3: telling me every three weeks to reinvents himself. So he
50:45
Speaker 3: can't even keep up how fast it's reinventing himself. So
50:49
Speaker 3: I think gold Watch did his thing. He pulled it off.
50:51
Speaker 3: He's definitely a visionary, you know. And this is in
50:54
Speaker 3: the lineages of a David Lynch, Alejandro Jodoroski mixed with
50:58
Speaker 3: some street shits, you know what I mean saying. So,
51:01
Speaker 3: you know, we didn't want to do the typical Scar
51:03
Speaker 3: phase drug dealer movie. You see a lot of hip hop.
51:05
Speaker 3: I'm tapping into that, which is dope. But we definitely
51:08
Speaker 3: wanted to push the line on this one. Just creatively
51:10
Speaker 3: and do something. Just out the fucking box.
51:13
Speaker 1: Don't call me lucky is out. The album is dope crazy.
51:17
Speaker 1: Features features are wild. Everybody got off on this motherfucker.
51:21
Speaker 3: Ain't no luck man. It's all hard work, blood, sweat
51:23
Speaker 3: and tears, staying up to six in the morning in
51:25
Speaker 3: the studio, being away from your family, traveling. You know
51:27
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We're still working hard as hell. You
51:30
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
51:31
Speaker 1: I'd love to see a TF man. Congrats on the project.
51:33
Speaker 1: Thank you one of the best albums of twenty twenty six.
51:36
Speaker 1: If y'all have not heard this album, just go press play.
51:39
Speaker 1: Promise you lucky, you will not be disappointed. All right, man,
51:42
Speaker 1: appreciate you all pulling up. And then we're gonna have
51:44
Speaker 1: TF do a freestyle and separate video, and we're gonna
51:46
Speaker 1: have Mugs pick a classic Mugs instrumental for him to
51:49
Speaker 1: wrap over.
51:50
Speaker 3: Let's go.
51:50
Speaker 2: Can we do that?
51:51
Speaker 3: Yes? All right? Thanks for having us home court.
51:52
Speaker 2: Sure, thanks, but love fire.
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