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Thy Will be Done: Surrending Expectations · The Hearing God Podcast

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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the Hearing God Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm Anthony Moore.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm Dan Lamus.
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  SPEAKER_03: For over a decade, Anthony and I have been diving deep into weekly conversations about the prophetic, the mystical, and the matters of the heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we invite you into these weekly conversations.
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  SPEAKER_00: We hope you feel like an honored guest at our table.
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  SPEAKER_03: So pull up a chair, settle in, and let's get started.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: How's it going, Dan?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, here we go.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I have got a different answer than I usually bring.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's uh it is I am weak, but Jesus is strong.
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  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
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  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was literally this morning as I was waking up and and just kind of thinking about the day, just kind of coming awake.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was just remembering the old Jesus loves me song.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And saying, God, that that's an amazing, just an amazing line to remember.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, we are weak, but he is strong.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And just, yeah, I'm just really grateful for that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's kind of been a theme for the last little bit with me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm doing the dance of not crazy about my weakness.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yet I'm being called through scripture to delight in my weaknesses.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I'm you know, it's a funny thing when you when you invite God to teach you about that, yeah, you're probably gonna become more aware of your weaknesses.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just uh I think that's the way that the Lord teaches us, He creates us, like He confronts us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I was just thinking as you were talking, I was like, if if when all is said and done, I would like to celebrate, I would like to have learned to celebrate my weaknesses in a greater degree than I currently do.
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  SPEAKER_00: But usually what that means is like living in them, like living in the midst of your weaknesses.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, which I currently am right now, but yeah, at least I think he confronts us gently and firmly with well, kind of uh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's all the way here's all here's some situations where you're just gonna be weak.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's it's a well it's a funny thing I'm noticing because I'm I'm moving into the you know the last quarter of my life or whatever, more and more.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, that that I'm realizing that when you come to an age where you're physically weaker, uh the like when I was younger, I used to say a lot of things by faith because I felt strong and I generally felt like it was hard to become aware of physical weakness.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, but as you get older, you're more aware of frailties.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yet I definitely am experiencing that your your last years, your last decades are a time to celebrate weakness, to say, God, you still have things that you want to do through me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I'm going, I would love, I would love to learn in this last quarter of my life, what what does it look like to really lay literally lay down my life?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, including my and celebrate my weaknesses and let your let your power be known.
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  SPEAKER_03: So anyway, it's it's a fun here's a here's a here's a thought.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what if, what if whenever, you know, uh, you know, people are gathered at your funeral and they're like, you know what, you know what it was about Dan?
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  SPEAKER_00: He really, really celebrated his weaknesses.
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  SPEAKER_00: That wouldn't that be fun?
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  SPEAKER_00: It would be fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wouldn't be so bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the I mean that the the posture, the shift in our heart, like just the like I would love, I would love to see more of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like there's just not that I'm trying to fake it.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a again, there's a lot of things, not that I don't want no one really sets out to be disingenuous, but there's a lot of things that we choose, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of like in faith, God, we declare like like there will be a day that I celebrate my weaknesses more than I do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but just the shift to just you know being willing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think, I think, you know, in this part, you know, that we I feel like I'm further along in just saying, God, here I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's the here's the mess of of my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: God, you're meet me here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I surrender to you a new and a fresh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those kind, those kinds of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just I feel like yeah, you know, I'm I'm a little further along than there than maybe necessarily boasting in my weaknesses, but right just acknowledging before the Lord.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, it's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh months ago, you're back, you know, I don't know, last year and coming even into the beginning of 26.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oftentimes when I would ask you or others ask you, how's things been going?
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  SPEAKER_03: You say, well, it's kind of a mixed bag.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like celebrating the mixed bag.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like instead of regretting it, you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, like it's easy to regret there's a big reason why life is a mixed bag is because I'm often not performing what what I want to be.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not fixing enough.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not remembering like I'm I'm finding there's more some you know, sometimes it feels like more problems or more things to solve than what I'm comfortable with.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it's like part of celebrating your weaknesses is celebrating the mixed bag that is life.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like it's okay, like celebrate uh another, I mean, another little word that I'm curious about is is limits.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think I might even take that into my own walk with my own communion with God a little bit and say, God, am I slow to celebrate my limits?
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'd like to be a little bit freer.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like if I if I experience a limit and say, Well, must be God's not gonna do that thing in my life.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I want to be quicker to say that's probably an opportunity for God to do the very thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: If I feel limited there, yeah, He's likely gonna show up there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, if I want to really celebrate it, you know?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I the one of the things that we had been wanting to talk about today was uh just like what happens when we pray.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, uh we were we were we had been talking briefly, and I don't know, I'm gonna set this up in some sort of funny way, but um we had been talking a little bit about um just uh things things playing out the way that we want them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like we pray, you know, uh in a line with the Lord's prayer, like your kingdom come, your will be done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But oftentimes it's like, you know, we say, God, your kingdom come, your will be done like I think it's like I think it should be done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we we find ourselves like asking, like, like we we pray like on earth as it is in heaven, but we often frame that around uh how that's gonna happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have expectations for how certain when we pray for certain things, how those things are gonna flow.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so just one of the things that we just wanted to talk to you about what we pray is just like the like the surrendering of our the surrendering of our um maybe it's our expectations or at least how the thing is gonna happen because we all yeah, we all have these moments where we we can imagine, you know, if I pray for a certain thing, this is how I can imagine right God will do what he's gonna do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I typically will have what I want on my mind when I come to pray.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and what I want affects what my will is.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I'm bringing this thing that I want.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, may your kingdom come.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's my hope of that thing that I want happening, yeah, and your will be done.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we both know what that is, right, God?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think I think there's a there's a um, there's just an acknowledgement.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think you know, there's a there's a funny, not a sort of this curious little scripture that I want to just lean into this morning, but oftentimes it comes from this this uh like we read the word of God, we read the New Testament, we read how Jesus did what he did, and how oftentimes that was far above and beyond and outside the understanding of our of our paradigms.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Umny thing about um, you know, we were listening to a sermon, uh, one of our recent sermons, uh that, you know, just on a Sunday morning, and there's this curious scripture that jumped out at me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's really from Matthew 27, and it's verse three, uh, talking about Judas, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, so picture in your mind all the things that you thought about Judas, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: All the things that you thought about him.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we've we've talked about uh, you know, how like we can read into Judas, he was out to get Jesus, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: He was and we're very sure about what we were what he was thinking and what his motives were.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, but here's the here's the deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's the verse, verse three of Matthew 27.
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  SPEAKER_00: It says, Then when Judas, his betrayer, saw that Jesus was condemned, meaning when Judas realized that Jesus was condemned to die.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, like the unexpected in his life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, right, he changed his mind, right, right, about whatever he was, whatever things he was up to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then he went back and he gave back the 30 pieces of silver.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, so that's that I have tried to remedy.
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  SPEAKER_00: He tried it to right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so the the thing here that I want to throw out here is just or at least submit here.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like I want to propose to you that Jesus that Judas wasn't trying to get Jesus killed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But but I think here's what I think.
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  SPEAKER_00: And just this is the the fun theory where we're gonna just color outside the lines a little bit, but it seems as though Judas was interested in forcing was forcing Jesus' hand to ascend to like uh uh a throne that that Judas thought he was gonna throw.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, like basically, so in the in the context, uh Israel was under the foot of Rome, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: They were they were sort of oppressed, they were living under Roman rule.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh and I and I would say largely you can read in various parts of scripture that that the people of Israel thought the same thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: That they thought that the Messiah was gonna come, he was gonna rule, he was gonna establish his kingdom, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But that was going to mean some kind of political uh government.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he was gonna send, he was gonna rule like on David's throne, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, all of that stuff that there were there was this imagery that already existed, and there was an understanding and some kind of model or a customer, some human government.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was some human government that that that the messiah was going to establish.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we we see, and and again, we here in 2026 have the benefit of hindsight in that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But those those the the people of Israel thought that the messiah was going to set up a rule uh from a human standpoint.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so my my sort of my submission is that I think Judas was convinced that this is how Jesus was going to uh was going to, you know, was was how that's how what Jesus was going to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so and so if we rewind uh you know a little bit to the upper room, to the Last Supper, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we see that like, you know, uh there was a talk to the inner inner.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in the inner like we're gonna see about the one that's gonna betray me.
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  SPEAKER_00: The one that's gonna betray me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, there's a scene that unfolds um where Jesus, you know, he dips his you know, the bread in the cup with Judas, yeah, saying the one who's gonna betray me is gonna do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then and then he says, you know, one of the gospels records, he says to Judas, like what you're gonna do to quickly.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so basically nudge nudge.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a world where you where where Judas is hearing Jesus saying that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, so this is now the plan is coming together, yeah, let's go and do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I guess there's there's part of me that goes that looks at uh at the upper room uh interaction with Judas, yeah, and then sees this scripture here in Matthew 27 and goes, Well, if Jesus, sorry, if Judas was out to get Jesus to out to he would celebrate the fact that Jesus was.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he would be celebrating if he was out to kill Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we would re read some sort of malevolence into Judas, but but here's here's the point, and basically to tie this part with what we were talking about is that Judas didn't understand, right, and nor did anyone understand the what Jesus was really up to.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: The intricacy and the Yeah, and that that the plan of Jesus like how amazing this actual strategy was, and yeah, was was that Jesus was interested in a kingdom that was not of this world, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: That that did not uh I'd say it like not of this world, but for this world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, like it's a but it was a kingdom that was number one, it was invisible, yeah, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a kingdom that was that had very much to do with the human heart, yeah, and not and the spirit of God uh living and dwelling with humanity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the kingdom that Jesus was interested in setting up, not the political one, not the human government kind of deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that's the part where it was like Judas was sort of fixated on uh was fixated on a certain way of doing things, set it up, and then and then when he realized what he'd done, he was like, he's like, what have I done?
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's when he goes and tries to fix it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the priests are like, okay, what are what are what are what is this to us, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And then so anyway, he just chucks the money and yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it was really about, I think the point that I was trying to make here is is really about perspective and really about uh how we think, yeah, like surrendering our like acknowledging the fact that we don't know how oftentimes what the Lord is up to, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: That we don't know that in our humanness, I'm not saying that the Lord is hiding that from us, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But there is from a from the human way of looking at the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a there's a paradigm that we look at it, but oftentimes Jesus is outside of that, yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so so some of that is like, right, okay, so where's the connection?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's it's God, your kingdom come, your will be done, how you see it unfolding.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_03: I really I like I I deeply appreciate this because uh the the the the prayer like the prayer journey in my life has been like over the decades has been a series of those kinds of things.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like praying long and hard and passionately for something, yeah, and thinking I have a way to answer my own prayer, yeah, and you know, moving aggressively into it, yeah, and seeing those plans fall apart.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you know, feel you know, having to having to repent of bitterness, yeah, having to repent of unforgiveness sometimes, going into debt sometimes financially, because I was so sold that this was God, God was gonna do this 100%.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then it doesn't happen that way.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and yet I'm still here and he's still here, yeah, in the awkwardness of okay, God, uh yeah, I guess we're still here and wondering what's next, and and have and have the Holy Spirit say, Well, I still want you to pray and pursue the thing you were praying into.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but if you're willing to learn this, Dan, you are learning how to surrender your will.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like the like my will, like God's will being done on earth as it is in heaven, it needs to stay in the zone of how He wants it done.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: That and that, and it is a common development in the life of a of a believer who's learned who wants to pray and wants to go deeper in prayer.
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  SPEAKER_03: What prayer is going to do for you, take it to the bank.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's going to teach you that lesson.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like you can't you can't pray for years and decades and not learn.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It isn't your will being done in Jesus' name.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like because we because in it like we would never sort of in the we would never admit to this.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: I no, that's not the best way to say it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like we would never sort of ascribe to this idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thy the like your kingdom come, my will be done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: We never really like we would never, but in practice, there's a there's an sort of like there's sort of just like we we we forget a little bit, and then we default into that pattern.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's a little bit, a little bit like that psalm where David prays, search my heart.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, and see if there be any offensive way in me, yeah, any wicked way in me.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like, you know, may your kingdom come, may your will be done.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: And and kind of seeing that that part of the phrase, your will be done, as a massive container of things that we're petitioning God for.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're we're our attitude is yeah, if I'm praying, your will be done, God.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm really saying, without saying, search my heart and see if they're see if my will is actually offensive to your will right now.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he's and he that will happen in the midst of the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would say also, like, too, that there is there is just going to be uh there is uh I just there's a there's a something I'm thinking about, just a thought that I want to unpack a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like there's never to me, there's never going to be a time, uh, and this is rooted in scripture, this this thought, is like we aren't um we aren't promised like that we will know like how things are gonna unfold completely.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like we're not we're not promised like the full like okay, so I'm gonna pray for A, like this thing that's this this thing, and and then I'm not promised the like the knowledge of how that's gonna unfold.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, if yes, even if I'm A is like rooted in God's word, like this thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm something of how I'm right, exactly, right?
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so and so I would just say like there is when we pray for a thing, we're not promised the knowledge and the insight of how that's gonna unfold.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: So just the scripture is it doesn't make us a bad prayer?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like I think that's right, that's what I love for people that catch is like it doesn't make you a bad prayer means that you're that you're actually doing it.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: For sure.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I think so.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: Just to just to pull the scripture in, it's like I think there's a I think it's first Corinthians 13, where we see in part and we prophesy in part.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so there's right, there's a there's a partial, right?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: According to the word of God, there's a partial view of how any one of us might see this thing that we're praying into unfold.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so really it comes into is just this this idea of like in back to back to this like moving us into uh this uh understanding and acceptance and that our heart would believe, like, you know, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I and it just there was another thought about like, you know, like we want to see heaven move.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: We want to see the kingdom of God advance, but it's it's only gonna happen, you know, the more that our our will is aligned up with the will of God, yes, right?
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's the pathway to seeing more of the kingdom of God come on earth as it is in heaven, right?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like the surrendering of our will, the surrendering of how we think, you know, the kingdom of God is gonna is going to come to earth, is going to advance, you know, in the hearts and minds of people.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: But how that's gonna happen, what's the thing that's gonna happen?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so the more that the more that our will comes into alignment with the will of God, right that paves a way for for um for heaven to come, for heaven to move, and heaven, like the kingdom of God to advance.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that what that's a that's a powerful uh study right there, thinking of Judas' journey, Peter's journey, like both of them were sort of let your kingdom come and my will be done.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like both of them.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_03: It showed up in Peter cutting off the just the sermons here.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: It showed up in Peter not letting Jesus wash his feet.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like like he like he Peter had his own way of resisting and saying, Oh no, like I know Jesus, you don't.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: Jesus, you're back, you know, earlier, you know, you are the the Christ, the Son of the Living God.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: Jesus going, Yeah, Peter, like the Father, the Father revealed that to you, and I'm gonna call you the rock from now on.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_03: Simon, you're gonna be Peter.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_03: And then Peter starts advising him.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like, well, you yeah, don't talk about dying.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_03: You're that does need to happen.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: And but yeah, he had his own way, right?
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: And what a study of like humanity, in a sense.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like every one of us has the potential of ending in despair by stubbornly saying, Yeah.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well just, you know, like like I'm a failure because my will didn't happen.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: In Jesus' name, people that walk away from their face sometimes.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_03: For sure.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, around that whole thing of well, I'm gonna stop praying because obviously my prayers don't get answered.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, just in the light of that, uh just something that occurred to me is like, let's take, let's take uh David, for example, right?
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, that it was, you know, uh just the story from 1 Samuel, uh, how you know Saul was king, and in my recollection, he wasn't king very long before God was like, uh, you know, like I've I've I'm removing my anointing from you.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah even though he was king for 40 years.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Right, he was, yeah, right.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: Right, but there wasn't very much long, and so and so at some point in early in Saul's kingship, uh God like God was displeased with them and had and said, I'm moving on from you.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and then Samuel went and anointed David, who was a child, right, to be king.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so here's here's here's I picture this, right?
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and this is the part where like I'm pretty sure this like no one like maybe Samuel didn't even know.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe David didn't even know.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: Here's this a ceremony, you know, how the story unfolds, you know, all you know, um, Jesse parades all his sons out.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, Samuel was like, uh, okay, surely it must be this person, this person, and it turns out, no, okay, so you know, then there's that famous like man looks on the outward, God looks looks on the heart.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and then David comes, and then you know, God confirms to Samuel that this is the one who is and this boy is going to be king one day.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the point that I'm trying to make is that there was how many decades between yeah, right, had to pass between that anointing, like the anointing and David stepping into his kingship.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's wild.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: And and not even that, like even when David was established as king, there was a number of years that transpired before all of Israel came under came under, like before the before the the ark was moved or the tabernacle was moved to Jerusalem, before all of that.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: So there was there was there was there was years and years and years and decades even uh before this boy who was anointed to be king actually became king.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: And like you think about it, I'm recalling like there's there's Goliath in there, right?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's uh Saul chucking a spear at David, there's the relationship, but the you know, the the the brother uh literally rallying his army to go after David.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like like the campaign to go to go find David so we can bring him to justice.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: There's the brotherhood with David and Jonathan.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: There's the there's the um there's all kinds of there's the stuff that happened at Ziklag.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's uh there's all of these these um there's all of these scenes and scenarios that were like that where this maybe anointing could have been called into question.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: There's there may have been times where David was like, I think I messed something up right like God, God, that you like, did you really did is my how secure is the fact that you've anointed me to be king?
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's great.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_03: That's a great statement, right?
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_03: Like how secure is this?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, really?
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: How secure is your calling on my life?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, and how the things that you've called me into that I've that you know, someone may have prayed a prayer, and maybe there's a listener that someone may have given you a prophetic word or someone may have prayed a prayer, yeah, you know, even decades ago that marked you in a certain way.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you have been wondering like how that's gonna happen.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: But that the and and and that like there's there's a there's a refining that happens in that process.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: Talk about humility, like needing to humble yourself.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's huge, Anthony.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and even you know, the just thinking about the interaction between David and Saul in the cave, where David had every opportunity to like grab hold of the throne, slay the current king in his in his own, in his own strength.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: But he recognized in what like he he had the fear of the Lord in him, so that he was like, Well, no, Saul is the anointed like king by God.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right, yeah, even despite knowing that God had moved on and being anointed by the prophet, right?
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: So just thinking, just thinking, there's a lot of like back to a little bit what we're we're talking about.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: There's the there's the how the will of God is unfolding.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: Not just, I mean, for sure in your and my life, but also in the things that we see in the world, right?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's all kinds of things where the will of God is not being done, right?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's all kinds of injustice.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think about, you know, just just in our own, you know, there's all kinds of uh things like uh there's poverty, there's uh, you know, there's even the way that the government is doing things, right?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: Things that the government in the healthcare system, you know, things that champions uh values and practices that are outside of the will of God, like objectively speaking.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_03: So our assumption, the will of God would be to just confront it.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: Have it out.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_03: Let's let's chop the ear off.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Or yes, chop chop the ear off.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: And and or even doing it in a way, you know, outside of like we were we would set off, yeah, with our own zeal, without some prayer and consideration, without the direction of the Lord and how to confront those things.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: What you said earlier is stirring something up in me about how secure is you know the will of the Lord?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: How secure is it that he's promised this thing or his prophetic word came, and I knew it was, I know it was God.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: You know, how secure is it that he's promised to answer prayer if we persevere and so on?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: The the thing I would just want to coach anybody on out of personal experience is I've I've been surprised at the petty and sometimes ugly ways that I will go ahead and solve things when I've lost my confidence that God's doing a thing.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like when I when I felt like I was secure in the Lord's will happening and it doesn't seem to happen the way I expected, I'm I'm shocked and and often uh regretful toward my the things that I will do.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because it's not just that there's a problem with being insecure about the Lord's answering prayer.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's what gets unveiled and that's uncomfortable is what do I feel more secure in?
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_03: Because what I feel more secure in can be passive aggressive being passive aggressive, uh scheming another way around, yeah, um, undercutting somebody, yeah, um just taking undue advantage of a situation to force something to happen.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and all those things end up bringing destruction.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_03: So I I guess just that the coaching is like it will watch for, like, don't be don't be afraid of the Holy Spirit showing you.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like, Dan, here's what you have done because you didn't trust me.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, here's what you did.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Now he doesn't want to rub your nose in it.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: But he wants you to recognize, Dan, you're you're capable of things you didn't think you were.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what comes when you don't surrender to my will.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_03: Like if you don't surrender to Lord, your will be done, not mine, you know, parentheses.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_03: I surrender to your will.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's something you and I talked about was you know, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven, is uh is really a repentance.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: Because I have a different will in mind.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_03: And but I'm repenting of my will, and I'm saying, your will be done.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I just just to think of like, and again, so so I think where I want to go right now is just to reassure people, like that if you are currently in that situation where maybe you felt the Lord lead you in a direction and you've gone off and done something, and maybe it's not like you find yourself in a bit of a mess.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because of that.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe following or taking a leap, and it wasn't necessarily like you you know now that this isn't the way that the Lord was leading me.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: There's two situations uh from the Word of God that just uh that jump out at me.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Is uh and so here's here's what I here's the word is God's ability to bless and redeem and restore in the midst of your mess that maybe you created out of out of a genuine but maybe misguided uh you know approach to your life and how you you're following God's calling.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: Here's the deal.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: We look at we look at uh the way that Abraham, um Abraham and Hagar, right?
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah Abraham took that promise of God that your descendants would outnumber the stars.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: And he didn't maybe he didn't necessarily wait for the Isaac to come along, right?
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Though Isaac did come along, right?
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: It but then it it it's become fraught with conflict that we're currently even still living in, right?
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: So but still the blessing I'm getting at the blessing still came.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: God didn't say, well, now you now you've gone and done it.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna choose somebody else.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right, I'm going to somebody else, right?
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's actually saying, no, I'm still choosing you, Abraham.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: And here's the blessing that's that's going to come.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the other one is Jacob and Isha, right?
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: That that even uh even before that there was a destiny on Jacob's life to be in the, you know, in that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: I am the God of and yet uh Jacob went and tried to tried to manipulate.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: He was a scoundrel, right?
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: That was uh what what Jacob means, I think it's uh scoundrel.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um heel grabber, heel grabber.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: So it was like this way that Jacob went about such distinct.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: But he went about he went about that promise in a in his own strength.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: And yet here we are, we see that like, and there probably would have been another way, but we don't know what that other way was.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: But here we are.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: And God says, like, even though you went and did that another way, I am still here to, I can still, I can still do accomplish my purposes in and through your life, despite how you may have um, you know, out of some misguided zeal, grabbed the wheel in a way that was not what I was wanting for you.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so, and again, we could look at those situations sort of objectively, and we could say, okay, yeah, the way that Jacob went about that or the way that Abraham went about that.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: And there was a bunch of other things that Abraham did that were like that would was at least questionable.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but there was the ways that we they went about it, and then God was still saying, okay, so that like we're gonna deal with that, yeah, but it doesn't but it doesn't preclude you from receiving my blessings.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it doesn't preclude you, like it doesn't, it doesn't derail like the the will and the plan that I have for you.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still gonna get you, I'm still gonna get you to where I'm gonna get you.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so that's a great word.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and I I feel like that just to you know, um, I hope this isn't derail the the conversation, but like I I get that when I when I pray for young adults, right?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: I get that from uh and I wish I wish someone had prayed this over me in a way that maybe they did and maybe I just didn't receive it.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: But like I get the fear of making the wrong decision, the fear of this right.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's the other side of the ditch, right?
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, or the so the the other ditch uh in the road is like the fear of making a mistake.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: And oftentimes I just I'm filled with this overwhelming sense of like, okay, so here's here I am, you know, I'm a man in my early 50s, and I I I I have seen enough now in my own life and through in the life of others to know that okay, just take a deep breath.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: God's gonna get you to God has an ability to get you where he wants you to go.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: And so, but that's the part of like just the surrendering, right?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's like just be surrendering to the fact that just let your heart hear that God can do it.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right, that's right, that God can accomplish his will.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and so so really according to you know, back to back to you know, your kingdom come, your will be done, that there is a like how much better would it be, but like just the confidence in God's ability to accomplish his own will, right?
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, in in sort of like the mess of how how we think should be things should be done.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's so good.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's so good.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: And man, you can see that played out in the life of Peter.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_03: Like I love reading the little letters he wrote in the la in the later part of his life, in the wisdom.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_03: That just all Peter just got it.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: Wisdom, look at that.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: But then you read the P about Peter in the in the Gospels, and you're like, man, look at the journey he had to take.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: To to be able to untap that wisdom.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_03: And it was this kind of journey you're talking about.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: A very strong-headed guy gonna do it his way.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_03: And one of the key lessons the Lord taught him was you know, the patient endurance, the you know, the humbling, like for when Peter wrote, you know, humble yourself, therefore, under God's mighty hand so that he might lift you up in due time.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like Peter knew what he was talking about.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like he's from experience.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like, guys, I did not humble myself under the mighty hand of God.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: And yet God's still been faithful.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and it would have been fun to hear Peter talking around the table in some of those later years of his life about the foibles, you know.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: Well, for sure, because I'm just thinking about like that time where where Paul records confronting Peter.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: And this was like post, you know, post-Pentecost, the church is still in the early church, but it might have been like 10 years after the day of Pentecost where Peter Peter was had stopped eating with the Gentiles and was off in, you know, for fear of the Jews, right?
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: Right, he was eating, he was eating with them, and Paul confronted them.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right there.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so even there, you know, again, like just let that testify to maybe, or let's blow up the idea of like perfect, right?
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like that that suddenly the apostles didn't turn into perfect people, yeah, right, even after the day of Pentecost.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right, even after like having been with Jesus, that they still were human, they still had had to be confronted about things, right?
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_03: So just the that was that.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_03: They still had the will that was that was that had the potential of getting in the way of the way that God wanted to do it.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly, exactly.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because it was never God's will that Peter go off and eat with the Jews and sort of forget about the Gentiles, because Peter was the one, right?
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: It was like it was like Peter was the one, that trance that you know, in I think it was in Joppa, that that where the the the cloth was let down and there was the the that he was in that vision and the trance that he was in where God was like, no, don't don't call what's unclean, don't call something unclean that I have made clean.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was like you and I, and probably everyone who's listening, is is a part of the kingdom of God because of that.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: So the fact that we're like the fact that Gentiles, the fact that the fact that non-Jewish people are in the kingdom of God came through Peter.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like something to be corrected, needed to be.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: And then he was the one himself who needed to be corrected and confronted on something he was doing.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so it's just love it.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is a beautiful thought.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think it was just, you know, I um gosh, I I feel like um, you know, just uh here it feels like the plane is landing a little bit, but um but I'm just really thankful for at least acknowledging the the kindness of God uh and that like really to just acknowledge what happens when we pray, right?
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that that among all the other things that happens when we pray, you know, the the reality of God shaping us and um in his kindness, he leads us to the surrendering of our will.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right, that's right.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: That we're that it's like even Jesus in the garden praying, right?
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: Not my will but yours.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so wow, and so really in the in the mixed bag of like how we understand how God's gonna accomplish what he's gonna accomplish on earth, yeah.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: It really is this coming back to surrendering our idea of how he's gonna do what he's gonna do.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: And just but yet, but that doesn't, again, we still pray it right and we still should pray it.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_03: But at least coming we need to coming, we need a yield sign on the road to the when you're praying on the road of prayer.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: We need a yield sign that says, you know, just warning, yeah, you know, prayer's gonna teach you obedience.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because what I said about Jesus, he learned obedience to what he suffered with loud cries and tears.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's like that there needs to be a little bit of a warning sign.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, we got an extreme curve coming up here.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's like you know, like prayer is going to we're going to learn obedience through prayer.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I just say like that that God would just help us become a people who um who would just surrender more deeply like our will like to the will of the Father.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: And that God would help us in showing us where our wills, where our will deviates from from the will of God.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: And not only that, but just like our that our plans, where our plans deviate from what his plan is.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: And uh there's there's mercy in that place, there's kindness in that place, there's grace, there's forgiveness in that place.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but just that that it's like, okay, so that we would be a people who would have um that we would be uh I don't know what the word is.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: Tenderheart isn't quite isn't quite there, but we would have like a a will that's malleable, that we'd be teachable in in the way, in this way, right?
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: That our wills, that our wills would be formed and shaped by, we wouldn't be presumptuous that okay, of course, I know exactly how this is you know gonna unfold.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: You know, at the same time, with God actually may showing He may show us at times in part how those things are gonna unfold.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: But really it comes down to we don't get to dictate how God's going to bring the fulfillment of his great plan on the earth.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: It just really is come down to him and his acceptance of us and his his ability to accomplish things over the years.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so maybe we can just pray into that.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe, maybe there's uh maybe maybe this way, like um like there are there are people, and you and I are included, that have things that we want the Lord to do, right?
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe even things that are according to his will.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um but maybe pray a prayer.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're up.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh pray a prayer of just surrender.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, just uh pray a prayer that like that that God would help us surrender our our perspective.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, definitely would love to do that.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_03: Love to do that.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_03: God, we cherish the we cherish the uh communication, the communion that that is prayer.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: God, we just say thank you for inviting us into it.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for designing life on earth to be this communion of prayer, of joining earth with heaven and praying into that, God.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_03: And God, as Anthony and I have shared today, we just pray over our lives and everyone listening.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Lord, thank you for the the visions, the words that you've spoken to us, the things that you've put before us that that you've put on your heart, that and and we're praying for them to come into being.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, Lord, would you teach us obedience?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_03: We make ourselves available.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_03: And Lord, just the way Jesus learned obedience, would we learn learn obedience through surrendering our way of seeing it happen?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but then also we pray for grace and mercy and really joy over anyone today who's recognizing, wow, guys, you're talking and I've heard myself in there and I've kind of given up or I've you know I've walked away or something.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_03: Lord, would you just restore them in joy through surrender?
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that you are still up to what you said you were going to do.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: And we pray for a new day of discovery for them and a deepening of their roots and a fresh joy of being your son or daughter.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_03: And that we just thank you for all of this in Jesus' name.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_03: Amen.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's a wrap on this episode.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_03: It's been a privilege to have you as an honored guest as we all learn to hear God better.
• 45:56
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• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: Until next time.