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The internet is still fighting about this... Unsolvable Mysteries Part 2 · Crime and Horror

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  Speaker 1: A woman was viciously harassed for seven years. When it
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  Speaker 1: all came to a head, the police blamed one person
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  Speaker 1: and the victim's family and friends blamed another. And to
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  Speaker 1: this day, the internet remains totally divided on whether blame
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  Speaker 1: was appropriately placed. But before we get into today's bizarre story,
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  Speaker 1: In June of 1982, 38-year-old Cindy Hack divorced her husband, Roy.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as she moved into another home in Vancouver, Canada,
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  Speaker 1: she felt this wave of relief come over her. Their
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  Speaker 1: marriage had become abusive and toxic years ago. But her
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  Speaker 1: newfound happiness would be short-lived. Only four months after leaving
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  Speaker 1: her husband, Cindy's waking nightmare would begin. It all started
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  Speaker 1: with a late-night phone call on October 7, 1982. When
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  Speaker 1: she answered, the voice on the other side was raspy
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  Speaker 1: and angry-sounding, It addressed Cindy by name and quickly told
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  Speaker 1: her that they planned on hurting her. And before Cindy
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  Speaker 1: could do anything, the caller had hung up. Cindy was
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  Speaker 1: horrified and didn't know what to do, so she did nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And then over the next few days, she received more
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  Speaker 1: calls from this phantom caller, and each of them began
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  Speaker 1: with this person addressing her by name and then threatening violence.
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  Speaker 2: And Cindy began to convince herself that this had.
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  Speaker 1: To be some terrible prank, and so she continued to
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  Speaker 1: do nothing about it. One night, Cindy couldn't help but
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  Speaker 1: feel like she was being watched. And she looked into
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  Speaker 1: her living room and she noticed one of her windows
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  Speaker 1: was still open. At night, she would draw all the
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  Speaker 1: curtains in her house. And so she walked over to
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  Speaker 1: the window and she pressed her face up against the
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  Speaker 1: glass to look outside and she didn't see anybody out there.
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  Speaker 1: And so she drew the curtains, turned around, and began
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  Speaker 1: walking back towards the kitchen when her phone rang.
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  Speaker 2: She hesitated, but eventually picked the phone up. And on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of the.
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  Speaker 1: Call was the mystery caller, who in a mocking tone
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  Speaker 1: told her that curtains weren't going to protect her, that
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  Speaker 1: they knew when she was home. This incident pushed her
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  Speaker 1: over the edge, and she knew this could not be
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  Speaker 1: some bad prank.
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  Speaker 2: This was real.
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  Speaker 1: And so she contacted the police, who made a house visit,
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  Speaker 1: but there wasn't any sign of a break-in or any
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  Speaker 1: sign of a crime being committed. And so after walking
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  Speaker 1: her property and feeling confident that she was safe, they
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  Speaker 1: told her that, you know, you should really consider getting
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  Speaker 1: an unlisted telephone number. That way this mystery person can't
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  Speaker 1: keep contacting you. And so Cindy thanked them and would
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  Speaker 1: go on to get an unlisted telephone number. But not
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  Speaker 1: only would the calls continue, they would become more frequent.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, the harassment in general only began to escalate.
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  Speaker 1: Three days later, on October 15th, Cindy and her good
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  Speaker 1: friend Agnes were coming back from dinner to Cindy's house.
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  Speaker 1: And when they got there, they noticed that one of
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  Speaker 1: the front windows had been broken. And so they carefully
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  Speaker 1: walked onto the porch and realized the front door was
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  Speaker 1: actually unlocked and slightly ajar. They considered immediately leaving the
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  Speaker 1: property and just calling police. But they sat there for
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  Speaker 1: a minute and didn't hear anything inside the house. And
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  Speaker 1: so they decided they would just poke their head in
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  Speaker 1: and investigate. And so when they went inside, all the
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  Speaker 1: lights were off and there was no sign of a disturbance.
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  Speaker 1: It was totally quiet. But when they went upstairs, they
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  Speaker 1: found feathers all over the hall. And they followed those
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  Speaker 1: feathers all the way to Cindy's room. and in her room,
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  Speaker 1: all of her pillows had been ripped apart, and a
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  Speaker 1: key to her front door was laying conspicuously on her
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  Speaker 1: bedside table. The women fled the house and called police,
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  Speaker 1: but when they showed up, there really wasn't much they
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  Speaker 1: could do, despite knowing about Cindy's threatening phone call she
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  Speaker 1: was getting. There was just no clear sign of who
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  Speaker 1: broke into her house and cut up her pillows, and
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  Speaker 1: so they told her that the best thing she can
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  Speaker 1: do is change her locks, make sure everything in her
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  Speaker 1: house stays locked at all times when she's home, and
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  Speaker 1: if she notices anything out of the ordinary, to call back.
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  Speaker 1: Over the following few days, Cindy got more threatening phone
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  Speaker 1: calls and began waking up to threatening notes laying on
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  Speaker 1: her front porch that had been made from newspaper and
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  Speaker 1: magazine clippings. This led to the police launching a larger
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  Speaker 1: investigation into the matter. An officer named Pat McBride, who
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  Speaker 1: had been on the force for eight years, began checking
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  Speaker 1: in on Cindy almost daily. And very quickly, Pat and
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  Speaker 1: Cindy developed a romantic relationship, and Pat actually moved into
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  Speaker 1: Cindy's house while he was investigating this case. As soon
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  Speaker 1: as Pat moved in, the harassment seemed to stop. But
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks later in early November, Pat
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  Speaker 1: woke up one morning at Cindy's house and discovered that
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  Speaker 1: her phone lines were dead. When he went outside to investigate,
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  Speaker 1: he discovered that the lines had actually been cut and
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  Speaker 1: he found a pair of wire cutters laying on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Over the following month, in addition to the threatening phone
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  Speaker 1: calls and notes left on her porch, Cindy began hearing
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  Speaker 1: somebody walking around outside her house at night, but she
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  Speaker 1: was always too terrified to go to the window and
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  Speaker 1: look outside to see who it was. She began finding
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  Speaker 1: raw meat sitting outside of her door in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: and she would find pictures of dead bodies tucked under
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  Speaker 1: her windshield wiper on her car. One day, she walked
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  Speaker 1: into her backyard and she discovered three dead cats hanging
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  Speaker 1: in her garden. Cindy, who was a bubbly, happy person
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  Speaker 1: before the harassment started, had become a totally anxious and
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  Speaker 1: paranoid mess. But despite her obvious distress, the local police
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  Speaker 1: were starting to doubt her claims that the stalker was
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  Speaker 1: even real. Every time she called them claiming stalker activity,
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  Speaker 1: They would go to her house and look around, but
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  Speaker 1: they could never find any evidence to suggest that anyone
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  Speaker 1: besides her, her friends, or her boyfriend had been there.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of her boyfriend, police officer Pat McBride, he
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  Speaker 1: would tell his co-workers that he was never home when
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  Speaker 1: the stalker called, and he never heard anybody walking around
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  Speaker 1: outside of her house. He said the only reason he
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  Speaker 1: knew about these things is because Cindy told him after
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  Speaker 1: the fact. Upset that the police were not taking her seriously,
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  Speaker 1: Cindy broke up with Pat and decided she needed to
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  Speaker 1: move and start over in another town. Just days before
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  Speaker 1: Cindy was supposed to relocate, her friend Agnes stopped by.
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  Speaker 1: When she went to the front door and knocked and
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  Speaker 1: there was no answer, she walked around to the back
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  Speaker 1: and she found her friend crouched down behind the stairs
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  Speaker 1: as if she was hiding from something.
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  Speaker 2: She ran over to her.
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  Speaker 1: And noticed she had this black nylon stocking wrapped tightly
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  Speaker 1: around her neck, but Cindy seemed to be totally unfazed
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  Speaker 1: by it and just kept looking out towards her shed.
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  Speaker 2: And so Agnes runs over to Cindy and says, Cindy,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing? What's on your neck?
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  Speaker 1: And Cindy turned to look at her and her eyes
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  Speaker 1: were super wide and she was panicked. And she told
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  Speaker 1: Agnes that just minutes ago she had been walking out
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  Speaker 1: to her shed to get something when a man leapt
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  Speaker 1: out of the shadows and wrapped this nylon around her
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  Speaker 1: neck and began choking her and threatened that if she
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  Speaker 1: turned around to look at him, he would attack her family.
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  Speaker 1: So Cindy and this man struggled for a minute until
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  Speaker 1: Agnes' car approached, which spooked the man and he ran off.
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  Speaker 1: Agnes was shocked and she grabbed her friend and picked
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  Speaker 1: her up. She pulled the nylon off of her neck.
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  Speaker 1: and the two of them ran inside and locked all
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  Speaker 1: the doors and windows. And then at that point, Cindy
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  Speaker 1: called the police. But when the police showed up, the
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  Speaker 1: only evidence of this attack was Cindy's first-hand account and
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  Speaker 1: this nylon stocking. But the police believed the nylon stocking
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  Speaker 1: was Cindy's, and she had staged the whole event, and
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  Speaker 1: she had tied it around her neck herself. A few
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  Speaker 1: days later, in January of 1983, Cindy moved into a
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  Speaker 1: new home in a town called Richmond, which is a
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  Speaker 1: suburb of Vancouver, Canada. And as soon as she got there,
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  Speaker 1: she painted her car a new color and she actually
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  Speaker 1: changed her last name to James.
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  Speaker 2: For months, she didn't see or hear from her stalker.
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  Speaker 1: But in October of that year, she found another dead
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  Speaker 1: cat on her property.
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  Speaker 2: With a note next to it that just said, you're next.
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  Speaker 1: Fearing for her life, she called the Richmond police who
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  Speaker 1: set up a surveillance operation on her property. But for months,
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  Speaker 1: despite dozens of officers watching her house at practically all hours,
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  Speaker 1: they never ever saw any stalker activity. But as soon
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  Speaker 1: as the officers left, for any amount of time when
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  Speaker 1: there was a gap in surveillance, Cindy would call the police.
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  Speaker 2: And report stalker activity.
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  Speaker 1: In time, this town's police department also began to suspect
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  Speaker 1: that Cindy was fabricating the stalker story, and they told
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  Speaker 1: her as much. Now, blatantly knowing the police were not
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  Speaker 1: taking her seriously, Cindy hired a local private detective named
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  Speaker 1: Ozzy Caban to look into her case. Immediately, he installed
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  Speaker 1: floodlights all around her property and he gave her a
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  Speaker 1: two-way radio to place inside of her house that constantly
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  Speaker 1: broadcast back to Ozzy. That way, if she was in trouble,
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  Speaker 1: he would know about it even if she couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: to the radio to actually tell him. He also installed
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  Speaker 1: a panic button inside of her house that would send
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  Speaker 1: an alarm to him as well as to the police.
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  Speaker 1: In January of 1984, after only being on the case
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, Ozzy heard some strange sounds
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  Speaker 1: coming across the two-way radio. It sounded like there was
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  Speaker 1: some sort of struggle happening in Cindy's house.
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  Speaker 2: And so he tried radioing her to ask what was
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  Speaker 2: going on, but he didn't get a response. And so
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  Speaker 2: he flew over to her house. He knocked on the door,
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  Speaker 2: but there was no answer.
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  Speaker 1: And so he kicked the door down and found Cindy
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  Speaker 1: lying in the hallway motionless with a note on top
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  Speaker 1: of her hand that was held in place by a
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  Speaker 1: paring knife that had been stabbed through the note and
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  Speaker 1: then through her hand.
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  Speaker 2: The note said, you're dead, lady.
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  Speaker 1: Cindy also had a black nylon stocking wrapped around her neck.
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  Speaker 1: And so initially, Ozzy believed Cindy was dead, but he
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  Speaker 1: managed to find a pulse.
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  Speaker 2: And so he brought her to the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: And when she regained consciousness, all she could recall was
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  Speaker 1: was feeling someone inject her arm with a.
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  Speaker 2: Needle, and then after that, she had no memory of
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  Speaker 2: the attack.
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  Speaker 1: The police, believing Cindy had staged the attack, did not
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  Speaker 1: bother to take fingerprints at her home, or on the knife,
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  Speaker 1: or on the note.
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  Speaker 2: Ozzie, on the other hand, believed his client was telling
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  Speaker 2: the truth.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't believe Cindy was physically capable of injecting herself
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  Speaker 1: in the area where the needle had entered her body.
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  Speaker 1: The angle was nearly impossible to achieve on her own.
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  Speaker 1: Once she was released from the hospital, the police, despite
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  Speaker 1: believing she was lying, continued their surveillance operation of her property,
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  Speaker 1: but like always, nothing ever happened when any of the
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  Speaker 1: officers were on duty.
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  Speaker 2: The stalker activity only was reported after they had left.
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  Speaker 1: Life went on like this for over a year, and
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  Speaker 1: during that time, Cindy's mental health continued to decline rapidly.
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  Speaker 1: She lived in constant fear of this stalker, and she
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  Speaker 1: was deeply embarrassed that the police believed.
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  Speaker 2: She was lying.
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  Speaker 1: On December 11th, 1985, Cindy was attacked again. but the
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  Speaker 1: details on this are incredibly scant. Someone found her lying
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  Speaker 1: in a ditch six miles away from her home. She
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  Speaker 1: was wearing a single work boot and a single glove.
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  Speaker 1: She was suffering from hypothermia, and she had cuts and
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  Speaker 1: bruises all over her body, and she had a black
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  Speaker 1: nylon stocking wrapped around her neck.
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  Speaker 2: She had no memory of the attack.
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  Speaker 1: The police told her that they believed this was yet
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  Speaker 1: another staged event, and so they did not do any
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  Speaker 1: significant follow-up. After a few days in the hospital, she
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  Speaker 1: was sent home, but she was terrified to be alone.
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  Speaker 1: So she reached out to her friend Agnes and asked
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  Speaker 1: if she and her husband Tom would stay with her
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of days, and they agreed.
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  Speaker 2: The first night they were there, Cindy woke up in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the night and heard strange sounds coming
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  Speaker 2: from the basement.
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  Speaker 1: She woke up Agnes and Tom, and they heard the
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  Speaker 1: sounds too, and so they went down to the first floor,
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  Speaker 1: they opened up the door to the basement.
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  Speaker 2: And they looked.
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  Speaker 1: Downstairs and very clearly there was a fire raging in
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  Speaker 1: her basement. And so Cindy immediately ran to the phone
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  Speaker 1: to call 911, but they discovered the phone lines had
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  Speaker 1: been cut. And so Tom ran outside to try to
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  Speaker 1: find a neighbor to call 911 for them. And when
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  Speaker 1: he went outside, he found a man just standing there
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  Speaker 1: in front of the.
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  Speaker 2: House watching it. And Tom yelled to him, hey, you
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  Speaker 2: need to call 911.
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  Speaker 1: This house is on fire. And this man, without saying
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  Speaker 1: a word, just turned and ran down the street. And
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  Speaker 1: that man was never identified. Finally, Tom did get a
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  Speaker 1: neighbor to call 911. The fire department arrived and they
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  Speaker 1: put out the fire. And then after an investigation, they
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  Speaker 1: determined that the fire had been set intentionally.
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  Speaker 2: This was an act of arson.
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  Speaker 1: And the police said there was no signs of forced
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  Speaker 1: entry anywhere around the house, which means someone who was
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  Speaker 1: already in the house had to have started the fire.
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  Speaker 1: And they specifically said Cindy had to have started the
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  Speaker 1: fire because she stages these events all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Because of this stalker delusion she has.
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  Speaker 1: Agnes and Tom denied this claim, saying they never heard
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  Speaker 1: Cindy walking around at night, and she would never jeopardize
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  Speaker 1: their lives. After this event, Cindy became extremely depressed and
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  Speaker 1: had to be hospitalized, and for 10 weeks, she was
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  Speaker 1: under intense psychiatric care.
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  Speaker 2: But at the end of those 10 weeks, the doctors determined.
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  Speaker 1: that she was not a threat to herself or to
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  Speaker 1: anyone else and so she was sent home. It was
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  Speaker 1: at this time that Cindy went to the police and
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  Speaker 1: said that she thinks Roy, her ex-husband, was behind all
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  Speaker 1: of the attacks. Police immediately brought Roy in for questioning
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  Speaker 1: and he emphatically denied all allegations saying he had nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with it and in fact he had been
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  Speaker 1: the victim of this stalker that was going after his ex-wife.
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  Speaker 1: He said he got a number of these threatening phone
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  Speaker 1: calls and one time when they called they left him
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  Speaker 1: a voicemail and he played it for the police. After
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  Speaker 1: speaking with Roy and confirming his various alibis, the police.
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  Speaker 2: Ruled him out as a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: For the next three and a half years, Cindy continued
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  Speaker 1: to receive threatening phone calls and messages at her house,
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  Speaker 1: but no one besides Cindy ever saw this stuff happen live.
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  Speaker 1: While her private investigator, Ozzy, still believed every bit of
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  Speaker 1: her story... the Richmond Police Department had grown tired of
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  Speaker 1: her and stopped responding to her calls. On the evening
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  Speaker 1: of May 25th, 1989, Agnes showed up at Cindy's house
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  Speaker 1: for their scheduled game of bridge.
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  Speaker 2: When she knocked on the door, there was no answer.
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  Speaker 1: And because Agnes and Cindy were very close, Agnes tried
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  Speaker 1: the front door, it was unlocked, and so she let
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  Speaker 1: herself in, thinking Cindy must be upstairs taking a shower.
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  Speaker 2: But when she stepped inside, the house was totally silent.
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  Speaker 1: And after a couple of minutes of no commotion upstairs,
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  Speaker 1: Agnes began searching the house for her friend, and she
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  Speaker 1: discovered that Cindy wasn't there.
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  Speaker 2: And so she called the police. The police launched a
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  Speaker 2: search and very.
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  Speaker 1: Quickly found Cindy's car in a parking lot at a
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  Speaker 1: local supermarket. And when investigators went over the car, they
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  Speaker 1: discovered there was blood on the outside of the driver's
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  Speaker 1: side door. The contents of Cindy's purse, including her credit
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  Speaker 1: cards and ID, were scattered about on the ground near
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  Speaker 1: the car. And then in the trunk of the vehicle
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  Speaker 1: were the groceries that Cindy had recently purchased. But despite
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  Speaker 1: her car being found, there was really no indication of
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  Speaker 1: where she went next. Her friends and family believed she
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  Speaker 1: had been kidnapped by her stalker, and the police believed
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  Speaker 1: she was staging.
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  Speaker 2: Yet another event. But regardless, no one could find her.
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  Speaker 1: Two weeks after her disappearance, and one and a half
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  Speaker 1: miles away from where her car had been found, a
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  Speaker 1: road worker had drank too much coffee and needed to
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  Speaker 1: use the bathroom. But where they were working, they did
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  Speaker 1: not have a portage on and they were not near
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  Speaker 1: any local businesses that might offer public restrooms. The only
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  Speaker 1: area that offered any privacy was the abandoned building that
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  Speaker 1: was right near their work site. And so this worker
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  Speaker 1: told his crew where he was headed. He turned and
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  Speaker 1: began walking across the totally overgrown front yard of this property.
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  Speaker 1: And as he began walking around the side of this building,
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  Speaker 1: he smelled this horrific smell, like one of the worst
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  Speaker 1: smells he'd ever smelled in his life. And he assumed
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  Speaker 1: that because this property was abandoned, maybe people were dumping
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  Speaker 1: their trash on it somewhere and it's a hot day
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  Speaker 1: and that's why it smells. But either way, he wrote
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  Speaker 1: it off. He walked around to the back of this building.
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  Speaker 1: He found a good spot.
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  Speaker 2: He relieved himself.
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  Speaker 1: He turned around and began walking back along the side
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  Speaker 1: to go back to the road when he stopped. Because
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: he saw something lying near the side of the house
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  Speaker 1: that he was surprised he hadn't noticed on his way in.
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  Speaker 1: He couldn't really see what it was because the tall
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  Speaker 1: grass was obscuring his view and so he took a
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  Speaker 1: couple steps forward to get a better look and when
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: he could see clearly what it was, he stopped because
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: laying in front of him was a clearly deceased woman
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  Speaker 1: laying on her side with her hands and feet bound
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  Speaker 1: behind her back and around her neck was a black
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  Speaker 1: nylon stocking.
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  Speaker 2: It was the body of Cindy James.
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  Speaker 1: Despite the nylon around her neck, the autopsy revealed she
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: did not die from strangulation she died from an overdose
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: of morphine and other drugs. The police brought in a
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: not-expert who was easily able to put himself in the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: same position that Cindy was in and tie himself up.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: With this information, combined with their belief that Cindy was
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: a pathological liar, they concluded that this had to have
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: been self-inflicted, that she injected herself with the lethal dose
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: and then dropped down to the ground and tied herself
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: up to stage the epic conclusion to this stalker delusion.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: To cover their bases, the police did re-interview Roy, the ex-husband,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: but his alibi checked out and realistically he was never
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: actually a suspect. It's not listed online whether Pat McBride,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the police officer ex-boyfriend, was ever investigated. While the police
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: were very confident in their theory of what happened to Cindy,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: there were some discrepancies. The medical examiner did not agree
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: with the ruling that this was a suicide.
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  Speaker 2: He said that you can't conclude that, there's not enough evidence.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: During the autopsy, it was discovered that Cindy did have
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: an injection mark in her arm, but they could never
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: find the needle anywhere near her body or anywhere between
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: her and her parked car. Considering the extremely high dosage
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: of narcotic that was found in Cindy's system, if this
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  Speaker 1: had been a suicide, as soon as she injected herself,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: she would have had to immediately shift gears, get down
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: on the ground, and start hog-tying herself before she became
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: too intoxicated to function. Meaning the needle should have been
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: right around where she was found, but it wasn't. Also
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: missing from the crime scene were Cindy's shoes and socks.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And interestingly, her bare feet were totally clean, despite the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: fact that in order to get where she was found,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: she would have had to cover a distance of at
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: least a mile and a half from her parked car.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: But again, there was no dirt or any markings on
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the underside of her feet. Also, it was strange that
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: she wasn't discovered faster than two weeks. Although she was
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: found near this abandoned house that was totally overgrown, the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: house was actually frequented by teenagers. And there was a
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: walking trail nearby that would have had a line of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: sight on her body. These discrepancies have led many people
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: to believe that Cindy did have a stalker. And this
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: stalker kidnapped her in the supermarket parking lot.
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  Speaker 2: They tied her up.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: They injected her with the lethal dose of morphine. And
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: then after she had died, they dumped her near this
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  Speaker 1: abandoned property right before she was found. And they had
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: left that black nylon tied around her neck because that
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: was the stalker's signature. Some have taken this a step
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: further and said Pat McBride, the police officer, was behind
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the attacks because he would have known when surveillance was
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: set up on her house and could have very easily
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: avoided detection. But the most bizarre and fascinating theory of
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: what happened to Cindy is that she had Dissociative Identity
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Disorder or DID.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: This is where someone.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Maintains at least two distinct personalities and when one of
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: those personalities is active, the other kind of fades and
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: has no memory of this experience.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Creating these huge memory gaps.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: And so the theory goes, one of Cindy's personalities was
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: effectively stalking herself. Or more specifically, one of her personalities
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: hated herself and wanted to do herself harm. And so
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: that personality would do things like stab her own hand
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: or run six miles away into some ditch and leave
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: herself for dead. And then Cindy's other personality would take
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: back over And she would suddenly come to having no
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: memory of how she became injured or how she wound
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: up in this ditch. And so when she went to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: police to tell them that someone is stalking, is harassing,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: is attacking me, she was telling the truth. But that someone,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that stalker, was actually her. She just didn't know it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: But Roy, her ex-husband, was a psychiatrist. And in their
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: 16 years of marriage, he never noticed this condition. And
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: when Cindy was in that psychiatric ward for 10 weeks
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: following one of her stalker attacks, none of the doctors
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: or psychiatrists ever noticed or diagnosed her with this condition.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It's still possible she had DID, and it just came
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: on later in life, and it didn't present itself enough
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to be noticed during those 10 weeks of psychiatric care.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: But realistically, this reduces the chances of DID being behind
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: this whole thing.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: To date, her death is still considered a suicide, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: no one has ever been charged in connection with her death.
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