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- 0:00Speaker 0: provided by Thomas Allgaier and Frennus, based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts about venture capital from CW three and four.
- 0:07Speaker 0: Frennus specializes in BDB market research for venture capital teams, providing landscape screenings and startup segmentations with a strong focus on the tech space.
- 0:16Speaker 1: So it's the end of January, twenty twenty six and, you know, When you look at the landscape, there's this really deceptive signal in the market.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Well, if you just scan the headlines, you see these massive rounds, huge AI announcements, and you might think, okay, we're back.
- 0:31Speaker 1: The bull run is on.
- 0:33Speaker 0: But the data we've pulled from the last couple of weeks, it tells a totally different story.
- 0:37Speaker 0: It feels like we're looking at a barbell market.
- 0:41Speaker 1: That's a perfect way to put it.
- 0:42Speaker 0: On one end, you have this massive heavy capital concentration, billion dollar checks just flying into infrastructure.
- 0:48Speaker 0: And then on the other end, for, well, for everyone else, it's a disciplined grinding reality.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 0:53Speaker 1: It's a story of extreme divergence.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:56Speaker 1: So our mission for this deep dive is really to unpack that gap.
- 0:59Speaker 1: We're going to look at the macro view, the haves and have nots.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Then we'll dig into the distortion field that AI is creating.
- 1:06Speaker 1: And finally, the new playbook for founders and fund managers.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Because the rules of the game have fundamentally changed.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Okay,
- 1:13Speaker 0: let's start with that macro picture.
- 1:14Speaker 0: You mentioned divergence.
- 1:16Speaker 0: Thomas Algar had a great analysis of this.
- 1:18Speaker 0: He said capital isn't accelerating broadly.
- 1:20Speaker 0: It's just concentrating.
- 1:22Speaker 1: it is.
- 1:23Speaker 1: the whole gravitational pull of the market has shifted and the most brutal illustration of this is the chasm opening up between the US and Europe.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Oh,
- 1:32Speaker 0: I saw this Greg Batby's number.
- 1:34Speaker 1: They're shocking right.
- 1:35Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five the US market hit roughly three hundred forty billion dollars in deal value.
- 1:41Speaker 0: Which is a healthy number.
- 1:42Speaker 1: It is.
- 1:42Speaker 1: A very healthy number.
- 1:43Speaker 1: But then you look at Europe, about twenty three billion euros.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Wait,
- 1:46Speaker 0: hold on.
- 1:47Speaker 0: Three hundred and forty billion versus twenty three?
- 1:49Speaker 0: That's not just a gap.
- 1:50Speaker 0: That's a rounding error.
- 1:51Speaker 0: It's a whole order of magnitude difference.
- 1:53Speaker 0: It is.
- 1:53Speaker 1: And we have to ask why.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Bappy points out that in volatile markets, LPs, the folks who fund the VCs, they flake to safety.
- 2:01Speaker 0: Sure, that makes sense.
- 2:02Speaker 1: But in venture, safety isn't bonds.
- 2:05Speaker 1: It's liquidity.
- 2:06Speaker 1: It's predictability.
- 2:07Speaker 1: The U.S.
- 2:08Speaker 1: market offers a clear path to an exit M&A, IPOs.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Europe is still struggling with that depth.
- 2:14Speaker 1: If you're an LP and you can't sell how you get your money out,
- 2:17Speaker 0: you don't put it in in the first place.
- 2:19Speaker 0: A liquidity trap.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 2:21Speaker 1: But it's not just Europe, right?
- 2:23Speaker 1: I saw that post from Steve Torso about the Australian market.
- 2:25Speaker 1: He's the word that really stuck with me.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Hibernation.
- 2:28Speaker 0: Yes, and that context is so important.
- 2:31Speaker 0: While San Francisco is partying like it's twenty twenty one, local ecosystems like Australia have seen early stage funding drop by almost fifty percent.
- 2:40Speaker 0: Wow.
- 2:40Speaker 0: It creates this this total bifurcation.
- 2:42Speaker 0: If you're a founder in a regional hub, you just can't look at the global headlines and think they apply to you.
- 2:47Speaker 0: You're in a different economic weather system.
- 2:50Speaker 1: But there is a third player.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Kind of entering the Chad, isn't there?
- 2:53Speaker 1: If the U.S.
- 2:53Speaker 1: is booming and Europe is freezing, the Middle East seems to be building its own gravity.
- 2:58Speaker 0: Right.
- 2:58Speaker 0: Said Abdujabbar and Mudit Sharma were talking about record deployment in Saudi Arabia.
- 3:03Speaker 1: And this is that fascinating shift all guys are hinted at.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia saw one point seven two billion dollars deployed in twenty twenty five.
- 3:11Speaker 1: But the real story isn't just the dollar amount, it's the concentration.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Forty-five percent of all VC funding in the entire MENA region is now flowing specifically into Saudi Arabia.
- 3:22Speaker 0: Nearly half the capital for a whole region going to one country.
- 3:25Speaker 0: That sounds incredibly aggressive, but is it, you know, sustainable?
- 3:30Speaker 0: We've seen regions try to buy an ecosystem before.
- 3:33Speaker 0: And
- 3:33Speaker 1: usually the startups leave when the subsidies dry up.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Well, that's the skepticism Mudit Sharma addresses.
- 3:38Speaker 1: He argues this isn't cyclical, it's It's all driven by vision.
- 3:43Speaker 1: It's a sovereign mandate.
- 3:45Speaker 1: So unlike a European BC who's nervous about their next fundraise, Saudi capital is policy aligned.
- 3:50Speaker 1: They're building an economy, not just a portfolio.
- 3:52Speaker 0: So if you're a deep tech founder, starving for capital in Berlin, Riyadh is becoming a primary lifeline.
- 3:57Speaker 0: It
- 3:57Speaker 1: is.
- 3:57Speaker 1: And we should briefly mention China.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Dennis Kalinin flagged that they've rebounded in a big way, actually surpassing Europe in deal count now.
- 4:04Speaker 0: And that's driven by what?
- 4:05Speaker 0: Deep tech?
- 4:06Speaker 1: Heavily.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Robotics and deep tech.
- 4:09Speaker 1: So the map is getting clearer.
- 4:11Speaker 1: The US and China are powering ahead.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia is rising as a structural capital hub and everyone else, well, they're fighting for scraps.
- 4:19Speaker 0: Let's zoom in on that US surge because obviously the engine room there is AI.
- 4:24Speaker 0: But the term AI boom feels a little misleading.
- 4:27Speaker 0: It's not broad-based, is it?
- 4:29Speaker 1: Not at all.
- 4:30Speaker 1: And Peter Walker share a metric that basically defines the entire market right now.
- 4:34Speaker 1: He said AI ate forty-four percent of all invested capital.
- 4:38Speaker 1: But here's the kicker.
- 4:39Speaker 1: If you look just at software startups, that number jumps to sixty-one percent.
- 4:43Speaker 0: Sixty-one percent.
- 4:44Speaker 0: So almost two-thirds of every single dollar invested in software is going into AI.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Correct.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Which means if you're building a traditional SaaS platform, a marketplace, anything else, you are fighting for a shrinking slice of the pie.
- 4:56Speaker 1: You're playing on hard mode.
- 4:57Speaker 1: And
- 4:57Speaker 0: even within AI, the money's not spread out.
- 5:00Speaker 0: Chase Aldridge made a really important distinction.
- 5:02Speaker 0: The capital isn't chasing the chat GPT rappers anymore.
- 5:05Speaker 1: No.
- 5:06Speaker 1: That hype cycle is over.
- 5:07Speaker 1: It's dead.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Aldrich says the capital is chasing picks and shovels.
- 5:11Speaker 1: It's infrastructure.
- 5:12Speaker 1: It's agents that can actually execute work.
- 5:15Speaker 1: I mean, look at XAI raising twenty billion dollars.
- 5:17Speaker 1: That wasn't for a better user interface.
- 5:18Speaker 0: It was for compute cluster.
- 5:20Speaker 0: All
- 5:20Speaker 1: for compute.
- 5:22Speaker 1: And Herwig Springer connected this to NVIDIA's strategy.
- 5:25Speaker 0: Right.
- 5:25Speaker 0: They back the companies that consume their product.
- 5:28Speaker 1: It's a brilliant self-reinforcing loop.
- 5:30Speaker 1: The winners are building the rails.
- 5:31Speaker 1: the AI economy runs on.
- 5:34Speaker 1: But this creates a massive distortion field.
- 5:37Speaker 1: The FOMO.
- 5:38Speaker 1: The fear of missing out on this one specific layer is so intense, it's actually breaking the unwritten rules of venture capital.
- 5:44Speaker 0: You're talking about the Itamar Novik post about Sequoia.
- 5:47Speaker 1: I am.
- 5:48Speaker 0: This one really surprised me.
- 5:49Speaker 0: Novik appointed out Sequoia capital backed Anthropic.
- 5:52Speaker 0: But Sequoia is also a major backer of open AI.
- 5:56Speaker 1: A direct head-to-head competitor.
- 5:58Speaker 0: I thought that was the golden rule.
- 5:59Speaker 0: You pick one horse in the race, you don't bet on the Yankees and the Red Sox, it's a huge conflict of interest.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Historically, yes.
- 6:05Speaker 1: In the ride-sharing wars, you backed Uber or Lyft.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Not both.
- 6:10Speaker 1: You're on the board.
- 6:10Speaker 1: You have sensitive info.
- 6:12Speaker 1: But Novik's analysis is crucial here.
- 6:15Speaker 1: The fact that Sequoia is willing to breach that protocol, it signals one thing.
- 6:19Speaker 0: What's that?
- 6:20Speaker 1: Panic.
- 6:21Speaker 0: Panic, really?
- 6:22Speaker 1: Panic about vintage risk.
- 6:25Speaker 1: The feeling is, the winner-take-all dynamic in AI models is so strong, and the capital needs are so high that if you miss the winner, you miss the entire return for the decade.
- 6:36Speaker 1: So if VCs are terrified of having zero exposure, and they're throwing the governance rulebook out the window to make sure they have a seat at every table.
- 6:43Speaker 1: So FOMO
- 6:44Speaker 0: is overriding governance.
- 6:45Speaker 0: That's honestly a little terrifying.
- 6:47Speaker 0: It shows how desperate the smart money is to get into that infrastructure layer.
- 6:50Speaker 0: Okay,
- 6:50Speaker 1: so let's bring this down to Earth.
- 6:51Speaker 1: If you're not Sam Altman raising twenty billion, how do you survive?
- 6:54Speaker 0: You need a new playbook.
- 6:55Speaker 0: And we actually had some very tactical advice on this.
- 6:58Speaker 0: Matan Hasanov had a great post about the anti-sales
- 7:01Speaker 1: pitch.
- 7:01Speaker 1: I love this.
- 7:02Speaker 1: He basically said, stop trying to sell me.
- 7:04Speaker 1: It sounds so counterintuitive, right?
- 7:06Speaker 1: Founders are trained to be hype men.
- 7:08Speaker 1: But Hasanov's point is that VCs see hundreds of pitches.
- 7:12Speaker 1: They have incredibly sensitive BS detectors.
- 7:15Speaker 1: When a founder comes in acting like they don't need the money or creating artificial scarcity, it just feels performative.
- 7:22Speaker 0: So what's the alternative?
- 7:23Speaker 1: Transparency.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Hasanov says, admitting, here's where we're stuck, and here's how this capital unlocks the next stage.
- 7:31Speaker 1: That's far more compelling.
- 7:32Speaker 1: It builds trust.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And in a tight market, trust is the only currency that matters.
- 7:37Speaker 0: Speaking of trust, Harry Stebbings dropped a list of killers for seed rounds.
- 7:41Speaker 0: And these are painfully specific.
- 7:43Speaker 0: His first one, don't bring more than one founder to the first call.
- 7:47Speaker 1: This one creates so much debate, but he's right.
- 7:49Speaker 1: The first call is about building a psychological hook.
- 7:52Speaker 1: A rapport.
- 7:53Speaker 1: If you have three co-founders on a Zoom, the energy is just diluted.
- 7:57Speaker 1: You can't fall in love with the committee.
- 7:59Speaker 0: That makes sense.
- 7:59Speaker 0: It's about intimacy.
- 8:00Speaker 0: But his second point, this is the one that really stood out.
- 8:03Speaker 0: He said, do not bring a financial model to a seed pitch.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:07Speaker 1: This is the one that gives every NBA a heart attack.
- 8:10Speaker 0: Right.
- 8:10Speaker 0: Don't you want to show you have a plan?
- 8:12Speaker 0: You've thought about the numbers.
- 8:13Speaker 1: You want to show you have a vision, not a fantasy.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Stebbings is brutal here.
- 8:17Speaker 1: He says projecting revenue for twenty thirty is total BS.
- 8:21Speaker 1: And he's right.
- 8:22Speaker 1: At the seed stage, you don't know if your product will even exist in twenty twenty eight.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Let alone
- 8:27Speaker 0: what your churn rate will be.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 8:30Speaker 1: So bringing the spreadsheet actually hurts you.
- 8:32Speaker 1: It signals you're focused on the wrong things.
- 8:34Speaker 1: It destroys credibility because the investor knows you're just making it up.
- 8:38Speaker 1: When you present it with confidence, you just look delusional.
- 8:41Speaker 0: It's a trust test.
- 8:42Speaker 0: He also said, don't talk about an exit strategy.
- 8:44Speaker 0: Same
- 8:44Speaker 1: logic.
- 8:45Speaker 1: If you're already talking about who buys you, you're not thinking big enough.
- 8:48Speaker 1: You're a flipper, not a builder.
- 8:51Speaker 1: VCs need those hundred X returns, and flippers don't generate that.
- 8:54Speaker 0: Okay, so you nail the pitch.
- 8:56Speaker 0: Authentic, came alone, no spreadsheets.
- 8:59Speaker 0: Then, silence.
- 9:01Speaker 0: The ghosting.
- 9:02Speaker 0: Yasmin Morrison had some brilliant tactical advice here.
- 9:05Speaker 1: The network push.
- 9:06Speaker 1: It's so clever.
- 9:07Speaker 1: We all know that just checking in email is the most pathetic email in business.
- 9:11Speaker 1: It just never works.
- 9:12Speaker 0: It reeks of desperation.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Totally.
- 9:14Speaker 1: So Morrison says you never send that email.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Instead, you orchestrate a ping from the side.
- 9:19Speaker 1: You have a mutual contact dimension to the VC that your deal is moving fast.
- 9:24Speaker 0: So the VC hears it from a peer, not from you.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Correct.
- 9:27Speaker 1: It triggers their competitive instinct.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Suddenly, they find time to reply.
- 9:31Speaker 1: It's social engineering one-on-one, but it works.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Or, she says, just ask for the no.
- 9:36Speaker 0: Demand the rejection.
- 9:37Speaker 1: After ten days.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Yes.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I assume this isn't the fit, so I'm closing the file.
- 9:41Speaker 1: It shows confidence, and it often gets them to respond because they respect the time management.
- 9:45Speaker 0: Let's talk about the deal itself.
- 9:47Speaker 0: Nathan Beckord looked at the data and it seems the safe fee is now the undisputed king.
- 9:52Speaker 1: It's the default.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Something like sixty-four percent of rounds are on safes.
- 9:55Speaker 1: It's fast.
- 9:56Speaker 1: It's cheap.
- 9:57Speaker 1: It kicks the valuation can down the road.
- 9:59Speaker 1: But Beckord also noted that while valuations are holding up, median pre-money seed is still around sixteen million dollars.
- 10:04Speaker 1: The
- 10:04Speaker 0: funnel to get there is much tighter.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Much tighter.
- 10:07Speaker 1: But there's a darker side to this, especially for employees.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Peter Walker pointed out a stat that every job seeker needs to hear.
- 10:14Speaker 1: The average new hire is getting fifty percent less equity today than in twenty twenty two.
- 10:19Speaker 0: Fifty percent less.
- 10:21Speaker 0: That's a massive pay cut, effectively.
- 10:23Speaker 1: It's a huge shift in leverage.
- 10:25Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, talent was scarce.
- 10:28Speaker 1: Founders threw equity at people.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Now the capital is scarce.
- 10:31Speaker 1: There have been layoffs.
- 10:32Speaker 1: The employer holds the cards.
- 10:34Speaker 1: The gold rush packages of the pandemic are gone.
- 10:37Speaker 0: Unless you're an AI researcher, I assume.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Well, yes.
- 10:40Speaker 1: If you know how to train an LLM, you can name your price.
- 10:43Speaker 1: But for a VP of marketing, the market has corrected.
- 10:47Speaker 0: There's one last trap for founders we need to cover.
- 10:49Speaker 0: Branislav Zagorsek made a distinction I think causes so much pain.
- 10:53Speaker 0: The difference between a good business and a venture-backable business.
- 10:56Speaker 0: This
- 10:57Speaker 1: is the hardest conversation.
- 10:58Speaker 1: You can build a company that does ten million dollars in revenue, makes two million dollars in profit, grows fifteen percent a year.
- 11:04Speaker 1: That is a wonderful business.
- 11:05Speaker 1: It will make you rich.
- 11:07Speaker 1: But Zagorsek points out it's uninvestable for a VC.
- 11:10Speaker 0: because it doesn't have the rocket fuel.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Because VC math needs decoupled growth.
- 11:14Speaker 1: They need revenue to grow exponentially while costs grow linearly.
- 11:18Speaker 1: If your growth is tied to headcount like a consulting firm, you can't generate the fifty X or a hundred X return they need.
- 11:24Speaker 1: So founders waste months pitching VCs who will never invest.
- 11:27Speaker 0: Revenue alone doesn't guarantee a check.
- 11:30Speaker 0: That's a tough pill to swallow.
- 11:31Speaker 0: It
- 11:31Speaker 1: is.
- 11:32Speaker 1: But realizing you're a good business might save you a year of your life.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Go to a bank, go to PE, bootstrap it.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Just don't pitch Sequoia.
- 11:41Speaker 0: We've talked a lot about founders, but let's flip the table.
- 11:43Speaker 0: What about the GPs, the people writing the checks?
- 11:46Speaker 0: Because from what I'm reading, they're sweating just as much as the founders.
- 11:49Speaker 0: Oh,
- 11:49Speaker 1: absolutely.
- 11:50Speaker 1: The fundraising environment for VCs is brutal.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Adeo Resi shared a story that is, frankly, a cautionary tale.
- 11:58Speaker 1: He knows a manager who returned twenty two X on their first fund.
- 12:02Speaker 0: Twenty two X. That's Hall of Fame.
- 12:03Speaker 0: That's that's retire on a yacht numbers.
- 12:06Speaker 0: They should be able to get a check for fun to from anywhere.
- 12:08Speaker 1: You'd think.
- 12:10Speaker 1: But they are struggling to raise fund too.
- 12:12Speaker 0: How does that even make sense?
- 12:13Speaker 0: If the product, the return is that good, why aren't LPs buying?
- 12:18Speaker 1: Because LPs don't just buy the result, they buy the process and the person.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Bresci's point is that institutional relationships have to be built before you have the returns.
- 12:27Speaker 1: It's a three to four year game of dinners, updates and invites.
- 12:31Speaker 0: So you can't just show up at the finish line with a winning ticket?
- 12:34Speaker 1: No.
- 12:34Speaker 1: If they don't know you, and you show them a twenty-two X return, they don't think genius.
- 12:40Speaker 1: They think lucky.
- 12:41Speaker 1: They think one hit wonder.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Without relationship equity, the financial equity just isn't enough.
- 12:47Speaker 0: That's fascinating.
- 12:48Speaker 0: It's not a transaction.
- 12:49Speaker 0: It's a marriage.
- 12:51Speaker 0: And speaking of marriage, LPs are asking for a much more detailed prenup now.
- 12:55Speaker 0: Myrtle Lollacos and Nicole DiTomasso were talking about the new ILPA due diligence questionnaire.
- 13:01Speaker 1: This sounds dry, but it's the new reality.
- 13:03Speaker 1: The era of move fast and break things is over for the fund managers themselves.
- 13:09Speaker 1: LPs are looking under the hood.
- 13:10Speaker 1: They're not just reading your thesis.
- 13:11Speaker 1: They're auditing your back office, your compliance, your tax filings.
- 13:14Speaker 0: Because one operational screw up can just blow up the whole fund.
- 13:17Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 13:18Speaker 1: One botched K-one tax form can ruin your reputation.
- 13:21Speaker 1: The bar for operational excellence has just risen dramatically.
- 13:24Speaker 1: You can't run a fifty million dollar fund on a spreadsheet anymore.
- 13:27Speaker 0: So operations matter.
- 13:28Speaker 0: And so does team size.
- 13:30Speaker 0: Reuben Dominguez Ibar cited a Ben Horowitz rule that I think applies everywhere.
- 13:34Speaker 0: Keep your investment team the size of a basketball starting five.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Five people.
- 13:38Speaker 0: Why five?
- 13:39Speaker 0: Why not ten?
- 13:40Speaker 1: Because of the politics of consensus.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Horowitz's theory is that once you hit ten or more people, decision quality just drops off a cliff.
- 13:48Speaker 1: You start trading favors.
- 13:50Speaker 1: I'll vote for your sauce deal if you vote for my crypto deal.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Ah, the log rolling.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Or you just regress to the mean.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Large groups kill the weird controversial ideas that usually become the biggest winners.
- 14:04Speaker 1: They vote for the safe consensus bet.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Small teams fight, they debate, and they decide with conviction.
- 14:11Speaker 0: And in this market, conviction is the only thing that generates alpha.
- 14:15Speaker 0: Okay, let's bring this all together.
- 14:17Speaker 0: We started with the barbell, massive concentration at the top
- 14:20Speaker 0: U.S.,
- 14:20Speaker 0: AI infrastructure, Saudi mandates, and extreme discipline everywhere else.
- 14:25Speaker 1: The market has matured.
- 14:26Speaker 1: That's the headline.
- 14:27Speaker 1: The tourists are gone.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Policy noted this about crypto, but it applies everywhere.
- 14:30Speaker 1: The easy money has left the building.
- 14:33Speaker 0: So whether you're a founder in Riyadh, a fund manager in London, or an AI engineer in San Francisco, the bar for quality has effectively been moved into the clouds.
- 14:40Speaker 0: It
- 14:41Speaker 1: has.
- 14:41Speaker 1: It's data-driven, it's concentrated, and it is ruthless.
- 14:45Speaker 0: Which brings us to a final question.
- 14:47Speaker 0: We see sixty-one percent of software capital going to AI, specifically AI infrastructure.
- 14:54Speaker 0: the chips, the data centers, the foundation models.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Right.
- 14:57Speaker 1: And here's the provocative thought I want to leave you with.
- 15:00Speaker 1: We are pouring billions into the roads and bridges of AI, the infrastructure.
- 15:07Speaker 1: But are we funding the cars?
- 15:09Speaker 0: Meaning what?
- 15:10Speaker 1: If everyone is chasing the picks and shovels, are we creating a massive innovation void in the application layer?
- 15:15Speaker 0: Meaning we get to twenty-twenty-eight, we have all this incredible compute power, but nobody has survived long enough to build the tools that actually use it.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 15:24Speaker 1: We might be starving the very ecosystem that makes all this infrastructure valuable in the first place.
- 15:29Speaker 1: It's a risk that I don't think the market has fully priced in yet.
- 15:32Speaker 0: That's a scary thought, but definitely something to watch.
- 15:35Speaker 0: We are going to wrap it up there.
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