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Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell Looks To Move Jurisdiction's In A Civil Suit (10/31/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Ghislaine Maxwell and her ridiculous
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Speaker 1: request to get the civil suit between her and Annie
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Speaker 1: Farmer moved from New York to New Mexico. Now, everybody
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Speaker 1: who listens to this podcast, even with just a little
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Speaker 1: bit of regularity, understands that I have zero faith in
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Speaker 1: the Southern District of New York at this point. Well,
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Speaker 1: I have even less faith in New Mexico doing the
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Speaker 1: right thing. When I was there, just in February down
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Speaker 1: at Zorro Ranch, the stuff that I heard from the
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Speaker 1: sources that I was talking to down there, the ex-law
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Speaker 1: enforcement source especially, it blew my mind with how ridiculous
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Speaker 1: things were down there and how corrupt things were. And
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Speaker 1: you know all of the players down there. We know
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Speaker 1: the King family who Epstein purchased the ranch from, the
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Speaker 1: land for the ranch. We know that they were their
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Speaker 1: political royalty in New Mexico. We know about Bill Richardson.
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Speaker 1: We know that he spread money around all over the
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Speaker 1: place when it comes to local politics. But we also
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Speaker 1: know that he chose New Mexico for other reasons, such
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Speaker 1: as their lax laws when it comes to crimes such
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Speaker 1: as these, such as the statute of limitations on laws
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Speaker 1: such as these. So again, you'll have to always remember
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Speaker 1: when we're talking about Jeffrey Epstein, we're talking about Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Speaker 1: Everything is done as part of a plan. None of
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Speaker 1: this stuff was done willy-nilly. None of this stuff was
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Speaker 1: done spur of the moment. That's not how people like
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Speaker 1: this operate. People who are successful as assets, people who
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Speaker 1: are successful as intelligence sources conduct themselves a certain way.
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Speaker 1: And these weren't just your run-of-the-mill assets. These weren't assets
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Speaker 1: that were turned on a battlefield or these weren't assets
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Speaker 1: that were being blackmailed. These were assets that were part
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Speaker 1: of the machine. These were agents. And when you have
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Speaker 1: people like this, people who understand spycraft and people who
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Speaker 1: understand how to make moves under the radar and how
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Speaker 1: to manipulate this system so that it conforms to their ideals, well,
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Speaker 1: you have some dangerous people, folks. And that's what we
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Speaker 1: were dealing with with Jeffrey Epstein and we're still dealing
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Speaker 1: with with Ghislaine Maxwell. There's a reason the trust, the
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Speaker 1: 1953 trust of Jeffrey Epstein was done in the Virgin Islands.
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Speaker 1: And there's a reason that Zorro Ranch was done and
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Speaker 1: located in New Mexico. And I should say, there's more
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Speaker 1: than one reason, honestly, with New Mexico, in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: And we've went over a lot of that stuff here.
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Speaker 1: I've talked about New Mexico a whole lot here on
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Speaker 1: this podcast, especially considering I had the trip down there.
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Speaker 1: But I told you all then, and I stand by
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Speaker 1: it now. There is a story still to be told
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Speaker 1: out of New Mexico, and we have only scratched the
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Speaker 1: surface down there. Let's remember, Zorro Ranch still has not
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Speaker 1: been raided. Now, I've said on the podcast here several
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Speaker 1: times that I did not believe that Ghislaine Maxwell is
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Speaker 1: in America. I thought that that would be almost impossible
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Speaker 1: at this point, considering the private investigators that are looking
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Speaker 1: for her, etc., etc. I figured that she would be
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Speaker 1: hiding somewhere else. But in this article tonight, they bring
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Speaker 1: up the question, is Ghislaine Maxwell hiding out at Zorro Ranch?
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Speaker 1: And I've had some people email me and ask me that,
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Speaker 1: what my opinion was of that. And I, you know,
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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, my gut says no, but
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Speaker 1: these people love to hide in plain sight, right? They've
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Speaker 1: been brazen with their operations and their activity from the
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Speaker 1: very beginning, throwing it in civilizations and I should say
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Speaker 1: society's face because these people don't care. They believe... That
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Speaker 1: with the power of their friends in the media and
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Speaker 1: the enormous wealth that they have, that they'll be able
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Speaker 1: to control the narrative and turn it whichever way that
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Speaker 1: they deem fit. Now, that's over. They can't do that
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Speaker 1: anymore because information is coming fast and furious from several locations.
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Speaker 1: But we have to remember the people we're dealing with here, folks.
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Speaker 1: We have to remember just how devious they are. And
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Speaker 1: we have to remember the company that they kept. I mean,
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Speaker 1: these people were hanging out with guys like Ehud Barak.
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Speaker 1: We know who he was. We know what his background is.
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Speaker 1: And we know that he's a serious player when it
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Speaker 1: comes to Israeli intelligence and military. And we also know
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Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein was locked in with the intelligence agency
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Speaker 1: here in America, considering what Acosta said on record to
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Speaker 1: the Trump transition team. Now you add all of that
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Speaker 1: up and you understand that these aren't your run-of-the-mill child traffickers, coyotes,
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Speaker 1: or people that came up with some harebrained idea that
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Speaker 1: they're going to start a brothel. This is way more
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Speaker 1: elaborate than all of that. This is way, way, way
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Speaker 1: more elaborate than all of that. This is not just
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Speaker 1: a trafficking ring. It is that, obviously. But there was
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Speaker 1: a lot of other layers here. There were a lot
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Speaker 1: of financial crimes going on. And like I've said from...
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Speaker 1: for a long time now, in my humble opinion, a
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Speaker 1: ton of espionage and a ton of scientific secrets being
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Speaker 1: passed off to Lord knows who. I don't have direct
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Speaker 1: evidence saying where this stuff ended up, so I'll never
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Speaker 1: come on here and state for a fact, oh, it
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Speaker 1: ended up in this person's hands. But I will tell
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Speaker 1: you this, it certainly ended up with people who should
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Speaker 1: not have had it, in my opinion. There's no doubt
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Speaker 1: that Epstein was passing on information from these scientific projects
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Speaker 1: to whoever his handlers were. And we can go on
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Speaker 1: for days and speculate about just exactly who those people were.
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Speaker 1: But it is obvious to me that Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: and this whole entire operation was not a run-of-the-mill child
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Speaker 1: trafficking organization or just trafficking organization. This was much, much,
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Speaker 1: much more It was way, way refined. It was almost
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Speaker 1: like they had a blueprint to build a home and
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Speaker 1: went in and followed that blueprint perfectly. And when you're
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Speaker 1: dealing with the people that these people were dealing with,
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Speaker 1: talking about whoever their handlers were, you know that these
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Speaker 1: are serious people and these are people who always have
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Speaker 1: some sort of a plan wrapped within a plan and
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Speaker 1: contingency plans, et cetera, et cetera. That's the way they operate.
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Speaker 1: So when everything's rolling smooth for them, when they have
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Speaker 1: everything going correctly, when they have their ducks in a row,
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Speaker 1: it is almost impossible to air them out because of
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Speaker 1: the cover that is laid by their lapdogs in the
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Speaker 1: legacy media and the fact that people are so gaslit
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Speaker 1: that they still to this day believe the legacy media
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Speaker 1: when they're running bullshit at them. And look, this isn't
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Speaker 1: a Trump thing for me either when I say this,
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Speaker 1: by the way, folks. So don't get it twisted. I
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Speaker 1: am not a fan of Trump. And to be honest
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Speaker 1: with you, I'm not a fan of any politician at
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Speaker 1: this point in this country. But what the FBI and
7:17
Speaker 1: James Comey and the FISA abuses, all of that stuff,
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Speaker 1: that all goes hand in hand with what we talk
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Speaker 1: about here with the rampant corruption in our intelligence agencies.
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Speaker 1: If they're brazen enough to try to pull that off,
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Speaker 1: you know that they don't give a shit about trying
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Speaker 1: to put you or I in jail, right? They don't
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Speaker 1: give a damn about any of us. So my problem
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Speaker 1: is with any sort of out-of-control intelligence agency, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to speak up about it when I see them acting incorrectly.
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Speaker 1: And there's plenty of ways to slam Trump. And there
7:54
Speaker 1: were plenty of correct routes to go. The financials from
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Speaker 1: Deutsche Bank, etc., etc. There were plenty of correct routes
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Speaker 1: that they could have went and they could have looked
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Speaker 1: to expose him for being involved in criminalistic activity. But instead...
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Speaker 1: They chose to attempt to create this whole entire fiasco.
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Speaker 1: And people bought it. And all of the people that
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Speaker 1: bought it, they're so disappointed at this point. about the
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Speaker 1: outcome that they're not willing to believe that they were
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Speaker 1: gaslit or that the FBI or the intelligence agencies are
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Speaker 1: so devious that they would do this. Folks, they would.
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Speaker 1: And I don't blame people for being gaslit because as
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Speaker 1: I've explained previously, I've been gaslit myself before during the
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Speaker 1: Iraq war. I totally bought into all of that sorry ass,
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Speaker 1: weak ass, false sense of patriotism that they were pushing
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Speaker 1: on us. Not understanding that I was being gaslit and
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Speaker 1: dog walked the whole entire time. But after that happened,
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Speaker 1: after I figured it all out and I grew up
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Speaker 1: a little bit, I had some more life experience, I
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Speaker 1: promised that I would never be gaslit again by anybody.
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Speaker 1: So I see the same thing happening with people over Russia.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who bought into that at first,
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Speaker 1: who are totally understanding now that a lot of it
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Speaker 1: is contrived, made up BS. And it's bad news when
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Speaker 1: the intelligence agencies are engaging in stuff like this. Because
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Speaker 1: it is just, it is unchecked power for intelligence agencies
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Speaker 1: never ends up well for the citizens, ever. And for
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Speaker 1: more on that, I would always suggest that people check
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Speaker 1: out the work of Aaron Maté and Glenn Greenwald, because
9:46
Speaker 1: they're fantastic when it comes to this sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: And they're certainly not conservatives, folks, or Republicans, and they
9:53
Speaker 1: do not like Trump. But when you're a journalist and
9:56
Speaker 1: you're somebody who calls calls things out because. you see
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Speaker 1: them as they are, then you have to be consistent
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Speaker 1: about it. And there are certain people, certain investigative journalists
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Speaker 1: that still do that kind of work. And it's a
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Speaker 1: good thing, because when you look at the whole entire
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Speaker 1: picture of our intelligence services and especially you look at
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Speaker 1: the cover of they gave for Jeffrey Epstein and his
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Speaker 1: organization for so long, it is mind-numbing, mind-numbing to think
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Speaker 1: that these people have gotten away with this for as
10:30
Speaker 1: long as they have gotten away with it. I just, I,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe if the FBI wasn't so busy trying
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Speaker 1: to frame people and trying to play politics and get
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Speaker 1: involved in nonsense that they really have no business even
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Speaker 1: being involved in, they could have focused a little bit
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Speaker 1: more on bringing these scumbags down. And that's another thing
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Speaker 1: that bothers me. We've had all of these hearings in
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Speaker 1: front of Congress for all of this stuff about Ukraine,
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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Where's the hearings for these girls?
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Speaker 1: And that's both sides of the aisle, right? Believe me
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Speaker 1: when I tell you, folks, I have zero love for
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Speaker 1: any politician at this point. None of them. I don't
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Speaker 1: support any of them. I don't endorse any of them
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Speaker 1: for office. And going forward, I highly doubt that I'll
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Speaker 1: ever endorse another politician ever again as long as I
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Speaker 1: live because they have all been nothing but pathetic failures,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion. So... When we see what's going on
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Speaker 1: with the FBI and we see the way that the
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Speaker 1: Congress and the Senate has conducted themselves with their petty
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Speaker 1: tribalism for the past few years, when they could have
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Speaker 1: been doing real work, they could have convened a hearing
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Speaker 1: and brought in people and got them under oath in
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Speaker 1: regards to this Jeffrey Epstein situation. That goes for federal
11:47
Speaker 1: agents and everybody else in between. But no, they were
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Speaker 1: too busy screwing off, trying to consolidate their power some more.
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Speaker 1: And if you want to be skeptical, I mean, if
11:56
Speaker 1: you want to be a cynic, I mean, well, a
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Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with the fact that
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Speaker 1: they didn't want to expose their friends, both sides of
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Speaker 1: the aisle. Because again, I don't know how many times
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Speaker 1: I have to say this. There are no good guys
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Speaker 1: in this case, folks. There are no white knights that
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Speaker 1: are running to anyone's rescue in this case when it
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Speaker 1: comes to the government and the officials surrounding this case.
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Speaker 1: The only people that I will throw that title on
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Speaker 1: that have been involved in this case are people like
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Speaker 1: Bradley Edwards and obviously the survivors themselves are legendary. They
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Speaker 1: have legendary bravery in my opinion. To come forward in
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Speaker 1: the climate that they came forward in before people were
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Speaker 1: aware of what was going on, myself included, I've been
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Speaker 1: awake at the switch for a long time. I had
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Speaker 1: no idea this sort of thing was occurring. My focuses
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Speaker 1: were elsewhere. Basically, mainly government corruption. And when you find
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Speaker 1: out what's really going on, what's truly happening behind the curtain,
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Speaker 1: the anger and the disappointment you feel for your own
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Speaker 1: government and for the institutions that you were told were
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Speaker 1: so honorable and so great and the gaslighting of the
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Speaker 1: American public and the programming of the American public is just,
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Speaker 1: it's beyond the pale at this point. and we need
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Speaker 1: to have some accountability at places like the FBI. There
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Speaker 1: needs to be accountability at places like the CIA, and
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Speaker 1: there certainly needs to be accountability for anybody who was
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Speaker 1: involved with Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell. All right, so
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Speaker 1: let's jump into this article. This article is from the
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Speaker 1: Daily Mail, and the headline is, Is Ghislaine Maxwell hiding
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Speaker 1: out at Jeffrey Epstein's Zorro Ranch? New court documents reveal
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Speaker 1: she's requesting Annie Farmer's civil case be moved to New Mexico,
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Speaker 1: where the 16-year-old was sexually assaulted. This article was authored
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Speaker 1: by Cheyenne Roundtree and Karen Ruiz. Jeffrey Epstein's alleged madam, co-conspirator,
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell, has asked a federal judge to move a
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Speaker 1: civil case brought by one of the pedophile's victims to
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Speaker 1: New Mexico to according to court papers obtained by DailyMail.com. Well,
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Speaker 1: not just a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, a victim of
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell, too. Let's remember what she's saying here, and
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Speaker 1: let's remember that Ghislaine Maxwell was a part of this, right?
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Speaker 1: Let's not pussyfoot around it. What are they so worried about?
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell suing them? Then she has to end up
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Speaker 1: at discovery phase, and we know she doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: be at discovery phase just from her actions alone here.
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Speaker 1: So people, you know, the publications really need to quit
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Speaker 1: screwing around with their words and call Ghislaine Maxwell what
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Speaker 1: she is. It's not like there's one person accusing her
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Speaker 1: of this either. There are witness upon witness that has
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Speaker 1: come forward talking about Ghislaine Maxwell and what she did
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Speaker 1: while she was with Jeffrey Epstein as one of the
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Speaker 1: heads of that criminal enterprise. Maxwell made the request in
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Speaker 1: legal papers filed in the Southern District of New York
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Speaker 1: last Thursday raising new questions about Maxwell's whereabouts. And this
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Speaker 1: is what I was talking about in the opening statement there.
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Speaker 1: She could definitely be at Zorro Ranch, right? I can't
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Speaker 1: say for a fact that she's not. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I only got to the gate. When I got to
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Speaker 1: the gate, there nobody came. I was there for 45 minutes.
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Speaker 1: I was knocking where the cameras are, hanging out. Nobody
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Speaker 1: showed up. I didn't see any movement, no activity on
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Speaker 1: the property whatsoever. I didn't see any cars driving around.
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Speaker 1: And from where you're at at the front gate, you
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Speaker 1: get a good look at those buildings. right? Those other
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Speaker 1: structures for like farmhands and I guess guest houses, et cetera,
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Speaker 1: et cetera. So I was there for 45 minutes and
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Speaker 1: I did not see one single person. Now, I didn't
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Speaker 1: have a view of the main mansion and there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of talk about the tunnel system below there. So
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Speaker 1: could Ghislaine Maxwell be at Zorro Ranch? It is quite possible. Look,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say no. I don't know one
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Speaker 1: way or the other for sure, but if I was
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Speaker 1: going to hide, that would certainly be a place that
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Speaker 1: I would think about hiding 100%, especially considering the political
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Speaker 1: protection that was afforded to Jeffrey Epstein there for so long.
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Speaker 1: You know, it is the type of political protection that
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Speaker 1: these people love to have in their back pocket as
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Speaker 1: an ace up the sleeve, because I think Elaine understands
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Speaker 1: that that the walls are closing in. And even in
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Speaker 1: a place as corrupt as New York, there is more
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Speaker 1: justice to be found than there is in New Mexico,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, because we know that Zorro Ranch has
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Speaker 1: still not been raided even. So is she there? I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Is it possible? For sure. Do I think
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Speaker 1: it's more possible her being there than some chateau in France?
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Speaker 1: For sure. When I start to think about it, it
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Speaker 1: seemed like it would be too obvious at first. But
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Speaker 1: when I start to think about it, it's quite possible
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Speaker 1: that she is there. And I don't have, again, I
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Speaker 1: don't have any evidence that points me that direction, but
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Speaker 1: it is certainly a possibility that she is at Zorro Ranch.
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Speaker 1: Considering that property, the more I think about it and
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Speaker 1: the more I think about how big the place is
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Speaker 1: and how easy it would be to hide away from
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Speaker 1: prying eyes, It is quite possible, folks, quite possible. Annie Farmer,
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Speaker 1: who claims Maxwell and Epstein sexually assaulted her age 16
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Speaker 1: at the disgraced financier pedophiles' New Mexico ranch, is seeking
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Speaker 1: damages from Maxwell and Epstein's $ 635 million estate. Yeah, damages
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Speaker 1: for sure. Back up the Brinks truck. All right, fill
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Speaker 1: it up with money, back it up, and go and
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Speaker 1: dump it on Annie's front lawn. That's what she deserves
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Speaker 1: from these monsters. What happened to Annie is absolutely abhorrent.
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Speaker 1: What these two animals did, these two monsters did to
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Speaker 1: this young girl, 16 years old, folks, can you imagine?
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Speaker 1: Think back to when you were 16. And these two
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Speaker 1: monsters assaulted her the way they did. And to think
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Speaker 1: that they would try, Glenn Maxwell would try and get
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Speaker 1: this case moved to New Mexico. I said just recently,
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Speaker 1: I was wondering why The New Mexico district attorney didn't
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Speaker 1: have a case opened in New Mexico. He's been punting
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Speaker 1: everything to New York. And now, Ghislaine Maxwell and her
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Speaker 1: legal team are going to try and muddy the waters
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Speaker 1: some more and start the whole process over by getting
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Speaker 1: it kicked down to court in New Mexico. I really
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Speaker 1: hope the judge sees this for what it is. I really, really,
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Speaker 1: really hope the judge sees this for what it is.
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Speaker 1: Because guess what? Annie Farmer, all of these ladies, all
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Speaker 1: of these girls... who were abused and assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein,
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Speaker 1: should have a Brinks truck back up to their front
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Speaker 1: lawn and dump bags of money onto their front lawn.
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Speaker 1: Because even with all that money, even with Epstein's whole
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Speaker 1: entire fortune going to them, it still is not going
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Speaker 1: to make up for what happened to them. It still
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Speaker 1: doesn't fill in those cracks of their life from what
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Speaker 1: they suffered and how they suffered throughout their youth, their teens,
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Speaker 1: their best years stolen from them because these monsters were
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Speaker 1: allowed to operate right under the nose of the pathetic,
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Speaker 1: weak-ass intelligence services of the United States of America. But
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Speaker 1: Maxwell argues that Farmer, who is now 40, has brought
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Speaker 1: up her complaint years too late and it should be
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Speaker 1: thrown out. No, no. The only thing that should be
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Speaker 1: thrown out is your request and your freedom, Ghislaine. And
19:50
Speaker 1: the only requests you should be making are from a
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Speaker 1: jail cell wearing a jumper. And if me, I drop
19:59
Speaker 1: your ass off at Guantanamo because you're as foul as
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Speaker 1: one of these terrorists. You're a disgusting, despicable excuse for
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Speaker 1: a human being, in my opinion. To bolster her argument,
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Speaker 1: Maxwell points out that the alleged assault is said to
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Speaker 1: have occurred in New Mexico, so if the case were
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Speaker 1: to proceed, it should be transferred there. More games. More gamesmanship.
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Speaker 1: These people love to play games like this. They love
20:27
Speaker 1: to make moves like this. They love to muddy the waters.
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Speaker 1: They love to obfuscate. They love to drag their feet.
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Speaker 1: And our disgusting-ass justice system is set up perfectly for them.
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Speaker 1: So they can maneuver their way through loopholes and litigate
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Speaker 1: cases until normal people can't pay a single dollar more.
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Speaker 1: But guess what? They ran into their match this time
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Speaker 1: because Annie's lawyers and the lawyers for the survivors aren't
20:54
Speaker 1: going to back down. They're not going to be bullied
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Speaker 1: and they're not going to be intimidated by this sort
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Speaker 1: of litigation. They're going to stand their ground and they're
21:03
Speaker 1: going to fight back. And guess what? When all is
21:06
Speaker 1: said and done, folks, they're going to win. When it
21:09
Speaker 1: comes to these damages, the Epstein estate is going to
21:11
Speaker 1: be wiped out, clean wiped out by the damages they
21:15
Speaker 1: have to pay out. That is my prediction. And I
21:17
Speaker 1: don't make many of those, by the way. The filing
21:22
Speaker 1: comes as Maxwell has largely been a ghost since Epstein's
21:25
Speaker 1: arrest last summer. As questions about where she is continue
21:30
Speaker 1: to follow the British socialite, co-conspirator, child abuser, et cetera,
21:36
Speaker 1: et cetera. Not socialite, all right? She's not a socialite anymore.
21:40
Speaker 1: She lost that title if she ever had it. Maxwell
21:43
Speaker 1: was seen in public just once since Epstein was arrested
21:46
Speaker 1: last summer after DailyMail.com exclusively tracked her down to the
21:50
Speaker 1: small coastal town of Manchester-by-the-Sea in Massachusetts. And I tried
21:56
Speaker 1: to follow that a little bit further. I have a
21:59
Speaker 1: couple of friends in Massachusetts, but unfortunately they were never
22:01
Speaker 1: able to provide me with any sort of concrete leads
22:05
Speaker 1: about if she was there or not. I know that
22:09
Speaker 1: the Daily Mail reported that she was, but again, I'm
22:12
Speaker 1: very skeptical about anything when it comes to Ghislaine Maxwell
22:16
Speaker 1: and anything short of a documented image at this point.
22:20
Speaker 1: And I'm going to remain skeptical because when you hold
22:24
Speaker 1: the keys to the bodies, to where the bodies are buried,
22:26
Speaker 1: and you know where all the skeletons are buried, well,
22:30
Speaker 1: you're a very dangerous person for these people. And there
22:33
Speaker 1: is a lot a lot of gamesmanship going on. So
22:40
Speaker 1: I'm very skeptical with anything that has to do with
22:42
Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell. She had been staying at the home of
22:46
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. Her sister, who lives in Texas, was later
22:49
Speaker 1: seen in the area packing up bags. So was she
22:54
Speaker 1: there or was it a game they were playing? A
22:56
Speaker 1: more throw-you-off-the-scent kind of game. I don't know, one way
23:00
Speaker 1: or the other, she might have been there, right? She
23:02
Speaker 1: might have been there. But me, I'm going to remain
23:05
Speaker 1: skeptical when we're dealing with this disgusting, vile woman. But
23:10
Speaker 1: an image was released of Maxwell in California eating at
23:13
Speaker 1: an In-N-Out location shortly after DailyMail.com revealed that she had
23:17
Speaker 1: been staying in Massachusetts. There you go. See what I mean?
23:21
Speaker 1: Always games. There's always a plan wrapped within a plan,
23:24
Speaker 1: wrapped within a plot with these people. And if you're
23:27
Speaker 1: not reading between the lines, if you're not looking four
23:30
Speaker 1: moves ahead while you're playing chess against them, you will
23:33
Speaker 1: be obliterated. Because while you're playing checkers, these people are
23:37
Speaker 1: playing 4D chess. Ever since Maxwell's whereabouts have been largely unknown,
23:44
Speaker 1: but she had spent long periods of time at Epstein's
23:46
Speaker 1: Zorro Ranch during their years together. Farmersuit claims that in
23:50
Speaker 1: the spring of 1996, Maxwell touched Farmer's intimate parts against
23:55
Speaker 1: her will during a massage at Epstein's ranch and exposed
23:58
Speaker 1: her breasts to Farmer. Remember, Annie was 16 years old
24:03
Speaker 1: when this happened. A 16-year-old girl that was at this ranch.
24:10
Speaker 1: And these people... abused her the way they did, they
24:13
Speaker 1: assaulted her the way they did, and Ghislaine Maxwell has
24:17
Speaker 1: the audacity to request anything from the court system? She
24:21
Speaker 1: has the audacity to try and get this case kicked
24:24
Speaker 1: to New Mexico? Furthermore, we could alleviate all of that
24:31
Speaker 1: real quick, Mr. Berman, by slapping her with federal RICO charges.
24:38
Speaker 1: Then it falls under the federal umbrella, where the charges
24:42
Speaker 1: are much more severe. Why that has not occurred yet, folks,
24:47
Speaker 1: I do not have the answer for you. But I
24:50
Speaker 1: will tell you this. If they drop a RICO charge
24:53
Speaker 1: on her, this will end all of the BS that
24:56
Speaker 1: we're seeing from Ghislaine Maxwell and her defense team. In
25:01
Speaker 1: court papers from last week, Maxwell's lawyer states that Farmer's
25:04
Speaker 1: complaint is years too late, lacks the required specificity, and
25:09
Speaker 1: is filed in the wrong court. Again, not that it
25:11
Speaker 1: didn't happen. It's never that it didn't happen because Ghislaine
25:15
Speaker 1: Maxwell knows damn sure that this happened. She knows that
25:19
Speaker 1: this happened and she knows that Annie is telling the truth.
25:21
Speaker 1: And she knows that Annie and Maria have both been
25:23
Speaker 1: telling the truth since the very beginning. The filing adds,
25:30
Speaker 1: it describes events that allegedly occurred nearly three decades ago,
25:34
Speaker 1: and it details alleged conduct by Mr. Epstein while referring
25:37
Speaker 1: to Ms. Maxwell as an afterthought. When the complaint does
25:41
Speaker 1: allege conduct by Ms. Maxwell, it alleges conduct that occurred
25:44
Speaker 1: in New Mexico, not New York. This court, therefore, should
25:48
Speaker 1: dismiss the complaint or transfer the case against Ms. Maxwell
25:52
Speaker 1: to the District of New Mexico. And both of those
25:54
Speaker 1: would be a huge win for Ghislaine Maxwell. A huge win.
25:58
Speaker 1: for Ghislaine Maxwell, considering the lax laws in New Mexico
26:02
Speaker 1: and considering that the process would have to start all
26:05
Speaker 1: over once again. Why in the world would any judge
26:10
Speaker 1: agree to this? Why in the world would her defense
26:14
Speaker 1: team even try this move? There is zero doubt in
26:17
Speaker 1: my mind that the judge is going to laugh at
26:19
Speaker 1: this request. Considering the judge has had to chase her
26:22
Speaker 1: down so many times in this case, considering she had
26:25
Speaker 1: to get served via email, I highly doubt that the
26:28
Speaker 1: judge is going to be wanting to deal with any
26:32
Speaker 1: of Ghislaine Maxwell's BS. Highly doubt it. Maxwell's lawyer states
26:38
Speaker 1: that Farmer's 1996 claims expired sometime in 1999 because New
26:44
Speaker 1: Mexico has a three-year statute of limitations for personal injury
26:49
Speaker 1: actions and minors who have one year from reaching the
26:52
Speaker 1: age of majority to begin such an action. Again, he
26:56
Speaker 1: didn't choose New Mexico just because. Very carefully... chose New
27:01
Speaker 1: Mexico because of their laws when it comes to things
27:03
Speaker 1: like this. Because of their law when it comes to
27:06
Speaker 1: the age of consent. They chose New Mexico for a
27:09
Speaker 1: reason and the story in New Mexico has yet to
27:14
Speaker 1: be told. The full story has yet to be told, folks.
27:18
Speaker 1: And that's something I'm going to keep working towards. I
27:20
Speaker 1: want to get to the bottom of what went down
27:23
Speaker 1: in New Mexico. I really would love to know the
27:26
Speaker 1: whole story. And if there are other sources out there,
27:29
Speaker 1: people that have knowledge of what cracked off in New Mexico,
27:33
Speaker 1: feel free to reach out to me. I'm only a
27:35
Speaker 1: few hour flight away. I can always fly back down
27:38
Speaker 1: and sit down and talk with you folks. So believe me,
27:41
Speaker 1: I am open to that. If security, you know, people
27:44
Speaker 1: are worried about emails, etc., etc., no problem. I could
27:48
Speaker 1: fly down and we could speak face to face like
27:50
Speaker 1: I did the last time with some of my sources
27:52
Speaker 1: because it's that serious what happened down in New Mexico.
27:55
Speaker 1: It warrants me disrupting my life and flying down there
27:59
Speaker 1: again if that's the case, because there is a lot
28:03
Speaker 1: to be told at Zorro Ranch and in New Mexico,
28:07
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's crucial for the rest of
28:09
Speaker 1: the case and for justice to truly be served that
28:14
Speaker 1: the story from New Mexico comes to light. Five days
28:19
Speaker 1: after requesting to move the case to New Mexico, Maxwell's attorney,
28:22
Speaker 1: Laura Menninger, asked to delay Farmer's case. saying it could
28:26
Speaker 1: interfere with the ongoing criminal case against the British socialite,
28:30
Speaker 1: aka co-conspirator. The 58-year-old is also under investigation by federal
28:39
Speaker 1: prosecutors in New York after she was accused of recruiting
28:43
Speaker 1: and grooming underage girls for Epstein. In a letter sent
28:47
Speaker 1: to a federal judge, Menninger argued Maxwell's deposition in Farmer's
28:50
Speaker 1: Suit could implicate her in the ongoing criminal case. So
28:55
Speaker 1: she basically confirms that she's under investigation as a co-conspirator.
28:59
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. So what I will say about
29:02
Speaker 1: that is, there's a little ray of sunshine, right? But again...
29:07
Speaker 1: What's Berman waiting for? The evidence is all there. Swoop
29:11
Speaker 1: her up. Make her life difficult. Make it hard on
29:13
Speaker 1: her to defend herself. Make it flip it around because
29:17
Speaker 1: the federal government's the best at that. They will litigate
29:20
Speaker 1: you into the poverty house. You will be so poor
29:23
Speaker 1: that you'll be begging for money on the streets when
29:26
Speaker 1: you're done litigating against the federal government. The U.S. Attorney's
29:32
Speaker 1: Office in the Southern District of New York has publicly
29:34
Speaker 1: and repeatedly announced its ongoing criminal investigation into alleged Epstein crimes.
29:40
Speaker 1: on the same topic as Farmer alleges in this case,
29:44
Speaker 1: Menninger said. Denial of a stay, particularly a stay of Ms.
29:48
Speaker 1: Maxwell's deposition pending outcome of the criminal investigation, could impair
29:54
Speaker 1: her Fifth Amendment privilege, against self-incrimination, extend criminal discovery, expose
29:59
Speaker 1: the defense's theory to the prosecution in advance of trial,
30:03
Speaker 1: or otherwise prejudice the criminal case. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
30:09
Speaker 1: And guess what? That's all legalese. None of that's even
30:12
Speaker 1: true in my opinion. Again, I'm not a lawyer, but
30:14
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Annie's lawyers are going to dismantle that
30:18
Speaker 1: whole entire line of thinking, one, two, three, easy peasy style,
30:22
Speaker 1: because it just seems absurd on its face. Farmer's lawyer
30:26
Speaker 1: David Boies responded to the request on Monday, calling it
30:30
Speaker 1: meritless and another attempt to unjustifiably delay this litigation. He
30:34
Speaker 1: also argued Maxwell has not provided enough information on the
30:37
Speaker 1: criminal probe or her relation to it to ask for
30:41
Speaker 1: a delay in her deposition. Maxwell therefore cannot use the
30:45
Speaker 1: existence of a criminal investigation to dodge her discovery obligations
30:49
Speaker 1: in this matter, particularly while at the same time refusing
30:53
Speaker 1: to provide any details or reasons as to why the
30:56
Speaker 1: investigation is a reason to stay the action, he wrote.
31:01
Speaker 1: So Boies is saying the same thing. David Boies is
31:03
Speaker 1: saying this is just more of an attempt for her
31:06
Speaker 1: to drag her feet, for her to delay things in
31:08
Speaker 1: this case, and for her to try and buy more time.
31:12
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I don't know. But again, I don't
31:15
Speaker 1: think she does anything without having a plan. So she's
31:19
Speaker 1: delaying for a reason, folks. What that reason is, I
31:23
Speaker 1: don't know. The lawsuit is just one of several civil
31:27
Speaker 1: cases that has been launched by Epstein survivors following his
31:30
Speaker 1: death last year. Maxwell, meanwhile, has managed to lay low
31:34
Speaker 1: and is believed to be in hiding as the FBI's
31:36
Speaker 1: net closes around Epstein's circle. Okay, that's all fine and well,
31:41
Speaker 1: but it is... Is it really happening? We don't have
31:44
Speaker 1: any arrests. We haven't seen any warrants issued. All we
31:48
Speaker 1: have are two people facing felonies, and those are the
31:51
Speaker 1: people that were in charge of guarding Epstein on the
31:53
Speaker 1: night he allegedly killed himself. So, I want to believe
31:57
Speaker 1: that the net's closing in, and I want to believe
32:00
Speaker 1: that the SDNY is starting to put things into motion,
32:03
Speaker 1: but until I see that with my own eyes and
32:05
Speaker 1: evidence of it, I will remain skeptical. In March, she
32:10
Speaker 1: sued Epstein's estate, claiming she knew nothing about his sex crimes.
32:14
Speaker 1: Maxwell is seeking compensation for legal fees and security costs
32:17
Speaker 1: incurred by her association with Epstein, who committed suicide in
32:21
Speaker 1: prison last year, allegedly. And what she's really trying to
32:25
Speaker 1: do is, in my opinion, she fired that shot over
32:29
Speaker 1: the bow and she's letting Khan and Indyk know the story.
32:32
Speaker 1: She's letting them know the deal. That if she goes down,
32:34
Speaker 1: the whole entire operation is going down in flames with her.
32:37
Speaker 1: Because if you think that Ghislaine Maxwell... has any sort
32:41
Speaker 1: of loyalty to Darren Kahn and Indyk. There is, excuse me,
32:45
Speaker 1: Richard Kahn and Darren Indyk. If you think she has
32:48
Speaker 1: any loyalty to these people, you are sadly mistaken. She
32:51
Speaker 1: has no loyalty to anybody. She might have had some
32:54
Speaker 1: loyalty to Jeffrey Epstein, but she does not have any
32:56
Speaker 1: loyalty to anyone left in this organization. Everybody below her
33:01
Speaker 1: was a pawn and people like Indyk and Kahn, well,
33:05
Speaker 1: they were just necessary for operations to continue. She doesn't
33:09
Speaker 1: care about them. She doesn't care about Vickers. The only
33:12
Speaker 1: person that she might, she might care about as far
33:15
Speaker 1: as friendship goes is Andrew, and I don't believe that
33:19
Speaker 1: for a minute either. I don't think that people like
33:21
Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell are capable of having any sort of real friendships.
33:26
Speaker 1: I think sociopaths like that are incapable of any sort
33:30
Speaker 1: of real connection with other people that could be called friendships.
33:39
Speaker 1: This case cannot be allowed to be kicked to New Mexico.
33:42
Speaker 1: The judge must put their foot down. The judge must
33:44
Speaker 1: tell Maxwell to pound sand. And this case must continue
33:48
Speaker 1: to go on. And we must go to discovery phase.
33:52
Speaker 1: And all of the cards at that point will be
33:55
Speaker 1: laid on the table. And Ghislaine Maxwell will be proven
33:59
Speaker 1: once and for all, in my opinion, to be the vile,
34:04
Speaker 1: disgusting human being we all know that she is. If
34:09
Speaker 1: you'd like to contact me, you can do that at
34:11
Speaker 1: BobbyCapucci at ProtonMail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at ProtonMail.com. You can also
34:19
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. You can
34:25
Speaker 1: also find the info... Civil lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell that
34:29
Speaker 1: was being brought by Jane Doe and her lawyer, Mr. Glassman,
34:35
Speaker 1: has been put on hold by Judge Deborah Freeman... after
34:39
Speaker 1: the prosecutors in the criminal case asked for that to occur. Now,
34:45
Speaker 1: they're saying that the civil case is running concurrently with
34:51
Speaker 1: the criminal case, and information from the civil case is
34:57
Speaker 1: also going to be in the criminal case. So they
35:01
Speaker 1: didn't want to take the risk of the criminal case
35:05
Speaker 1: being jeopardized by some of the information that comes out
35:10
Speaker 1: in the civil case. Now, that doesn't mean that this
35:15
Speaker 1: civil case is done, right? That's not what happened here.
35:19
Speaker 1: The judge didn't end the case. She put it on
35:22
Speaker 1: hold while the criminal case works its way through the courts.
35:28
Speaker 1: So this was expected. We talked about this on the podcast.
35:32
Speaker 1: I expected this to be the case with the criminal
35:36
Speaker 1: case running at the same time as this civil case.
35:39
Speaker 1: And they're having all that overlap. I thought that the
35:44
Speaker 1: criminal case would take precedence to the civil case. And
35:49
Speaker 1: that is the ruling that the judge put forward. So
35:53
Speaker 1: we're going to jump into this article from ABC News.
35:56
Speaker 1: And take a look at what Judge Deborah Freeman said
36:00
Speaker 1: about this case. This article was published at abcnews.go.com. The headline,
36:09
Speaker 1: Judge Puts Civil Lawsuit Against Ghislaine Maxwell on Hold. To
36:13
Speaker 1: continue would adversely affect the criminal prosecution, they argued. The
36:18
Speaker 1: author of this article is James Hill. A federal magistrate
36:24
Speaker 1: judge overseeing the only active civil lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell
36:28
Speaker 1: and the estate of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has ordered
36:32
Speaker 1: a temporary hold on the case until Maxwell's criminal case
36:36
Speaker 1: is complete. Finding that Maxwell's right to a fair trial
36:40
Speaker 1: outweighed the alleged survivor's pursuit of a timely resolution of
36:45
Speaker 1: her claims. Well, right in the first paragraph, we're off
36:48
Speaker 1: to a bad start. Because we know that Jennifer Arreaz
36:52
Speaker 1: just filed a civil suit against Ghislaine Maxwell in the
36:56
Speaker 1: Manhattan Supreme Court. We just read about that. And it's
37:00
Speaker 1: not even mentioned here in this first paragraph. So not
37:03
Speaker 1: off to a great start. Should discovery in the civil
37:08
Speaker 1: action proceed, Maxwell would be forced to decide whether to
37:11
Speaker 1: defend herself by making pretrial disclosures and giving deposition testimony
37:17
Speaker 1: or to invoke her Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, wrote U.S.
37:22
Speaker 1: Magistrate Judge Deborah Freeman in her order this week. This
37:26
Speaker 1: legitimate concern, made more real and immediate by the active
37:30
Speaker 1: posture of the criminal case... Militates in favor of a stay.
37:35
Speaker 1: And as shitty as it is, as much as I
37:38
Speaker 1: want to see all of these go to discovery and
37:43
Speaker 1: trial and all of that, I think that the criminal
37:47
Speaker 1: case most certainly is the most important case right now.
37:52
Speaker 1: And also, I think that if and when Ghislaine Maxwell
37:56
Speaker 1: is found guilty, it's going to really strengthen this civil
37:59
Speaker 1: case moving forward as well, right? because now the courts
38:02
Speaker 1: have already found her guilty, I would have a hard
38:05
Speaker 1: time believing that a jury would not be awarding mega
38:09
Speaker 1: bucks to somebody who brings the case against Maxwell, right?
38:14
Speaker 1: So I understand that Jane Doe here wants to press
38:20
Speaker 1: forward with her claim, but also at the same time,
38:24
Speaker 1: we have to remember that it looks like her allegations
38:28
Speaker 1: here Jane Doe's from the civil case are also being
38:33
Speaker 1: used in that criminal case. So it's not your typical situation, right?
38:38
Speaker 1: And it's one of those situations where I think that
38:41
Speaker 1: the criminal case must be put a rung above at
38:45
Speaker 1: this point. Federal prosecutors had asked Freeman earlier this month
38:53
Speaker 1: to halt proceedings in the lawsuit, which was filed in
38:56
Speaker 1: January by an alleged child sex abuse survivor against Maxwell
39:00
Speaker 1: and Epstein's estate. Prosecutors told the judge that there is
39:04
Speaker 1: a significant risk that proceeding with the case would adversely
39:07
Speaker 1: affect the ongoing criminal prosecution against Maxwell. And now remember
39:12
Speaker 1: what we always talk about. These people like Elaine Maxwell,
39:16
Speaker 1: she's not up there to argue her innocence, right? She's
39:19
Speaker 1: looking for loopholes. She's looking for technicalities. And if you
39:25
Speaker 1: run both of these cases concurrently, you're going to give
39:28
Speaker 1: her law team a... the ability to exploit loopholes or
39:33
Speaker 1: technicalities and get her off of those criminal charges perhaps
39:37
Speaker 1: and i don't think anybody wants to see that In
39:41
Speaker 1: a letter from Audrey Strauss, the acting U.S. attorney for
39:44
Speaker 1: the Southern District of New York, prosecutors asserted that there
39:48
Speaker 1: is a factual overlap between the civil and criminal cases
39:52
Speaker 1: that could result in a premature disclosure of evidence and
39:55
Speaker 1: testimony from witnesses who may be called upon in both cases.
40:00
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I was just talking about. The
40:03
Speaker 1: overlap from these cases is obvious, and it's obvious that
40:07
Speaker 1: Jane Doe and her allegations are one of the allegations...
40:11
Speaker 1: being prosecuted criminally. So I would think that if the
40:15
Speaker 1: prosecutors got with her legal team and everybody sat down
40:19
Speaker 1: and discussed what was going on, that they could come
40:21
Speaker 1: to a proper resolution here and give Jane Doe a
40:26
Speaker 1: peace of mind that she is more than able to
40:30
Speaker 1: pursue her claims after the criminal case winds up. Because again,
40:36
Speaker 1: I think that the criminal case and Ghislaine Maxwell going
40:39
Speaker 1: to prison For what she has done. Is the most
40:42
Speaker 1: important thing we have going on here. And I also believe.
40:47
Speaker 1: Obviously in my opinion anyway. I'm certainly not a specialist.
40:51
Speaker 1: On the matters of the estate. Or suing estates. But
40:54
Speaker 1: I think that it would. Lend some strength. To the
40:58
Speaker 1: claim in civil court. If we're talking about somebody. Who
41:03
Speaker 1: is already. Indicted. And sentenced. In prison. a criminal case
41:10
Speaker 1: that relates to the civil one. Such witnesses may be
41:15
Speaker 1: forced to testify about any efforts to assist the criminal
41:19
Speaker 1: investigation and prosecution and may thereby expose facts about the
41:24
Speaker 1: investigation and could potentially expose witnesses and or their families
41:29
Speaker 1: to harassment, the government's letter states. Moreover, permitting any discovery
41:35
Speaker 1: to proceed in this lawsuit would enable Maxwell to seek
41:38
Speaker 1: a preview of trial testimony in the criminal case and
41:41
Speaker 1: would afford her with a broader array of discovery than
41:45
Speaker 1: she is entitled to in the criminal case. So you
41:48
Speaker 1: see here, you know, when you read the headline and
41:50
Speaker 1: you hear some people talk about this, they act like it's,
41:54
Speaker 1: you know, the government trying to help Ghislaine Maxwell. When
41:58
Speaker 1: in reality, if you're really paying attention to this case,
42:01
Speaker 1: and you're not trying to, you know, salt seeds of nonsense,
42:06
Speaker 1: then you understand this is how it works. The criminal
42:09
Speaker 1: case takes precedent over the civil case, especially when there's
42:13
Speaker 1: overlap here. And it's obvious that Jane Doe is one
42:19
Speaker 1: of the accusers. So there is obvious overlap here. The prosecution,
42:25
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is doing the right thing here. And
42:28
Speaker 1: I haven't heard any lawyer worth their weight in salt
42:31
Speaker 1: or any law pundit come out and really pan this move.
42:36
Speaker 1: Because I think at the end of the day, everybody's
42:38
Speaker 1: focused on the same thing. And that is making sure
42:42
Speaker 1: that Maxwell pays a criminal price. The civil lawsuit filed
42:49
Speaker 1: under the pseudonym Jane Doe contains allegations that are substantially
42:54
Speaker 1: similar to those contained in the criminal indictment against Maxwell,
42:58
Speaker 1: who allegedly groomed three minor girls to be abused by
43:02
Speaker 1: Epstein between 1994 and 1997 and, in some instances, participated
43:08
Speaker 1: in the abuse herself, according to prosecutors. Maxwell has pleaded
43:14
Speaker 1: not guilty to the charges and has denied the allegations
43:17
Speaker 1: in the civil suit. So you see, it's very obvious, right,
43:22
Speaker 1: that we're talking about the same Jane Doe here. We're
43:25
Speaker 1: talking about the same case. And we see why prosecution
43:29
Speaker 1: would ask for a stay in the civil portion of
43:33
Speaker 1: this case. In its letter to the court, the government
43:38
Speaker 1: declined to address speculation Maxwell's attorneys have raised in court
43:42
Speaker 1: filings that Doe is one of the alleged victims identified
43:46
Speaker 1: in the criminal case. Those attorneys have declined to comment
43:49
Speaker 1: on the apparent parallels to the criminal case. So we
43:53
Speaker 1: don't have the confirmation, right, that this is the same
43:58
Speaker 1: person who is making these allegations, but all of the
44:02
Speaker 1: stars aligned. By advocating for a stay in the civil case,
44:08
Speaker 1: the government found itself, in this instance, aligned with Maxwell
44:12
Speaker 1: and the co-executors of Epstein's estate, who had been arguing
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Speaker 1: for months that the case should be placed on hold
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Speaker 1: while criminal investigations of Epstein's alleged co-conspirators remain open. That's
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Speaker 1: kind of a bit of a stretch, right? The author's
44:29
Speaker 1: kind of making it out like prosecution was working behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes with the lawyers for Epstein's estate. That's not
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Speaker 1: what's going on here, all right? This isn't like the
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Speaker 1: first time around when they were in the back room
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Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing. This is something that I think, as
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Speaker 1: unfortunate as it is for Jane Doe and as shitty
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Speaker 1: as it is for her, it's something that has to
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Speaker 1: occur if we're going to get to the bottom of
44:53
Speaker 1: this as far as the criminal aspect goes. We don't
44:57
Speaker 1: want to give these people any loopholes. How many more
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Speaker 1: hooks are we going to let these smarmy, disgusting, slippery
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Speaker 1: garbage fish wiggle off of? Absent a stay, Ms. Maxwell
45:12
Speaker 1: will be forced to choose between her constitutional right to
45:15
Speaker 1: remain silent and her active and vigorous participation in defending
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Speaker 1: against and refuting those false claims in this case. wrote
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Speaker 1: Maxwell's lawyer, Laura Menninger, in a letter to the court
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Speaker 1: earlier this month. Those lawyers had opposed those efforts, arguing
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Speaker 1: in court filings that a stay would simply delay long
45:35
Speaker 1: overdue justice. And I agree about that. If we didn't
45:38
Speaker 1: have the criminal case proceeding in the manner that it's proceeding,
45:42
Speaker 1: and there was no overlap, I would be 100% against
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Speaker 1: a stay in this case. But, We have to look
45:50
Speaker 1: at the big picture here, right? We have to look
45:53
Speaker 1: at the criminal portion of this case. There has been
45:55
Speaker 1: way too much work put in at this point to
45:59
Speaker 1: get to where we are as far as Ghislaine Maxwell
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Speaker 1: facing justice to have her be able to wiggle off
46:05
Speaker 1: on some sort of technicality. It cannot be allowed to happen.
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Speaker 1: Doe is seeking to hold defendant Maxwell accountable for the
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Speaker 1: heinous and sick sexual acts she committed against her over
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Speaker 1: the course of several years when she was just a child,
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Speaker 1: wrote her lawyer, Robert Glassman, of Panish, Shea & Boyle, LLP,
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Speaker 1: in a letter to the court. She is best served
46:28
Speaker 1: by pressing forward with her claims, not waiting even longer
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Speaker 1: for justice. I don't agree with that. I do not
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Speaker 1: agree with that because her case isn't going to be
46:38
Speaker 1: over in a day either, right? They have to go
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Speaker 1: through the process. The wheels of justice have to turn.
46:43
Speaker 1: So I think that the criminal portion of this case
46:46
Speaker 1: is where the focus should be. And I think that Mr.
46:51
Speaker 1: Glassman here should be focused on helping the prosecution with
46:55
Speaker 1: whatever sort of information that he thinks is necessary for
47:00
Speaker 1: their prosecution to move forward in an expedited manner. Because
47:04
Speaker 1: the faster the prosecution moves of Ghislaine Maxwell in the
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Speaker 1: criminal manner means the quicker they can get to the
47:11
Speaker 1: civil portion. Of more than 30 women who brought legal
47:16
Speaker 1: claims against Epstein's estate following his death last year, Doe
47:20
Speaker 1: was the only accuser who declined to voluntarily put her
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Speaker 1: lawsuit on hold to pursue an alternative resolution via the
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Speaker 1: Epstein's Victims' Compensation Fund, a non-adversarial program established by the
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Speaker 1: estate that began evaluating claims in June. Again, Jennifer Arreaz
47:40
Speaker 1: just filed a civil suit as well in the Manhattan...
47:43
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. So that's two girls now, right? Two ladies
47:48
Speaker 1: who aren't involved in the compensation fund. At least it
47:53
Speaker 1: would look that way from Jennifer Arreos' newest filing. Doe
47:59
Speaker 1: alleges in her complaint that she was first approached at
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Speaker 1: age 13 by Epstein and Maxwell in 1994 at a
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Speaker 1: summer camp at the Interlochen Center for the Arts in
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Speaker 1: Michigan and And that a month-long grooming process by Epstein
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Speaker 1: and Maxwell continued after she returned home to Florida. And
48:18
Speaker 1: we covered that when that story came out. We discussed
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Speaker 1: that at length and how Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein groomed
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Speaker 1: this young lady and subsequently sexually assaulted her. Doe, now 40,
48:35
Speaker 1: alleges that the sexual abuse by Epstein escalated over the
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Speaker 1: next few years as Epstein and Maxwell asserted control over
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Speaker 1: her life. She claims she was sexually abused at Epstein's
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Speaker 1: homes in Florida, New York, and his ranch in New Mexico,
48:51
Speaker 1: and that she would often travel to those locations with
48:54
Speaker 1: Epstein and Maxwell on one of Epstein's private jets. Well,
48:59
Speaker 1: we know for a fact that Epstein There was some
49:02
Speaker 1: funky shit going on in New Mexico, and we also
49:05
Speaker 1: know for a fact that there still is not an
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Speaker 1: investigation running in New Mexico. As usual, my question is, why?
49:15
Speaker 1: What is going on in New Mexico that makes them
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Speaker 1: so adversely to doing a real investigation to what occurred
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Speaker 1: at Zorro Ranch? Epstein's system of abuse was facilitated in
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Speaker 1: large part by his co-conspirator and accomplice, Maxwell, who helped
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Speaker 1: supply him with a steady stream of young and vulnerable girls,
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Speaker 1: the complaint said. During Doe's time in New York, Maxwell
49:41
Speaker 1: also regularly facilitated Epstein's abuse of Doe and was frequently
49:46
Speaker 1: present when it occurred. So, we know how heinous these
49:51
Speaker 1: claims are by Jane Doe. We know that Ghislaine Maxwell
49:55
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein, according to her, abused her and sexually
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Speaker 1: assaulted her for quite some time. And Jane Doe most
50:07
Speaker 1: certainly deserves her day in court. And with the greater case,
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Speaker 1: the criminal case, she and the rest of the survivors
50:16
Speaker 1: are going to get it. And then after that, after
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Speaker 1: Maxwell's prosecuted, after Maxwell is sentenced, then Jane Doe will
50:27
Speaker 1: be able to pick this lawsuit back up, the lawsuit here,
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Speaker 1: the civil lawsuit, and pursue it all the way home.
50:38
Speaker 1: Maxwell formally requested a stay in Doe's case last month,
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Speaker 1: arguing that Doe had failed to articulate a cogent reason
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Speaker 1: for wanting to press ahead with her lawsuit while the
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Speaker 1: criminal case is ongoing and while Doe can choose to
50:51
Speaker 1: present her claims to the estate's compensation fund. If it
50:55
Speaker 1: is money she seeks, she can pursue it in the
50:58
Speaker 1: claims program, Menninger wrote in a letter to the court
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Speaker 1: last week. If it's justice she seeks, the criminal case
51:04
Speaker 1: will resolve those issues one way or the other. Oh,
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Speaker 1: Laura Menninger. Big mouth menager. Guess what? She's going to
51:12
Speaker 1: go after it both ways, right? She's going to get
51:14
Speaker 1: the money she seeks, right? And there's going to be justice.
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Speaker 1: So enjoy your last few months milking Ghislaine Maxwell for
51:23
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars an hour because no matter what you
51:28
Speaker 1: or the rest of those defense attorneys do, your client
51:32
Speaker 1: is spending the rest of her natural life in prison.
51:38
Speaker 1: Those lawyers countered that a stay of the case would
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Speaker 1: deprive her and the public with an opportunity to learn
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Speaker 1: long-hidden information about Epstein's alleged criminal sex trafficking operation and
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Speaker 1: Maxwell's alleged role in it. That is for sure, if
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Speaker 1: it wasn't for the criminal case running at the same time.
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Speaker 1: Because we're going to learn all of that stuff in
51:58
Speaker 1: the criminal case as well. We're going to learn all
52:01
Speaker 1: of that and more. Because remember, Ghislaine Maxwell is not
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Speaker 1: going down alone. You can mark my words on that.
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Speaker 1: Write it down. Ship it home. Get it notarized. Maxwell
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Speaker 1: is not going down alone in this. The continuation of
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Speaker 1: this last remaining civil avenue... can furnish the public with
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Speaker 1: critical information... as to defendant Maxwell's well-known criminal enterprise... how
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Speaker 1: it was operated... and all of those involved. A stay
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Speaker 1: of the civil proceedings... would provide what defendant Maxwell has
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Speaker 1: sought for years... Concealing her heinous acts from public view,
52:39
Speaker 1: Glassman wrote to the court last month. I agree, right?
52:42
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for the criminal case, I think Mr.
52:45
Speaker 1: Glassman is spot on with everything he's saying. And I
52:48
Speaker 1: don't disagree with their position, right? I think that if
52:53
Speaker 1: Doe wants to pursue this all the way to a
52:57
Speaker 1: jury trial, then that's her prerogative. But it cannot be
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Speaker 1: done if it's going to interfere with the criminal case.
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Speaker 1: Judge Freeman was unpersuaded, determining that the public interest is
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Speaker 1: best served by protecting the integrity of criminal proceedings. And
53:15
Speaker 1: I have to agree with that, right? I think the
53:17
Speaker 1: criminal proceedings supersede anything at this point. I think the
53:21
Speaker 1: criminal proceedings are the most important thing going on right now.
53:25
Speaker 1: Because justice must be served in this case. Overall, and
53:31
Speaker 1: despite Doe's assertion that a stay would work to her disadvantage...
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Speaker 1: This court finds that any generalized prejudice that she would
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Speaker 1: suffer as the result of a stay is not sufficient
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Speaker 1: to counterbalance the other factors that the court should consider,
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Speaker 1: which all heavily favor a stay, Freeman wrote. So, that
53:50
Speaker 1: was Judge Freeman's decision on Jane Doe's case against Ghislaine Maxwell,
53:56
Speaker 1: and that is where we're at. The civil case is
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Speaker 1: on hold, while the criminal case... is barreling down the
54:05
Speaker 1: street at 100 miles per hour. If you'd like to
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