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L71 Sasquatch Encounters and a Night of Dogman attacks in New Jersey · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back to the live episode. For
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  Speaker 1: this week, I had on swamp Dog from swamp Dog
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  Speaker 1: Overland Adventures, and interesting enough, we were going to begin
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  Speaker 1: this episode as just his you know, his bigfoot encounters,
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  Speaker 1: which is crazy enough as it is, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: they started back in eighty nine. We actually went through
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  Speaker 1: those encounters, but right around the forty nine minute mark,
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  Speaker 1: he started to tell me a story about when the
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  Speaker 1: game warden showed up to his house and then he
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  Speaker 1: took him out to a ranch or a horse farm,
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  Speaker 1: better said, where you know, there was this you know,
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  Speaker 1: mutilated and dead horse with a broken neck and some
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  Speaker 1: other things, and it's pretty incredible. So it's kind of scary.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys need to be careful, especially you know
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  Speaker 1: in the woods, you know, watch where your kids are
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  Speaker 1: and make sure you know, you protect yourself however you
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  Speaker 1: episode with swamped off. What's up about? Yeah, just enjoying
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  Speaker 1: the summer. What about yourself?
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  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it, you know what I mean? I'm waiting
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  Speaker 2: for what I'm waiting for the follow the count. So
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  Speaker 2: you mean I canna start doing with dear hunting in September,
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  Speaker 2: But you know.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna go out there deer hunting with all the
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  Speaker 1: things you've been telling me. All right, Bud, I like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: tell me the name of your play name of your
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  Speaker 1: YouTube channelick quick Man, and introduce yourself to some people.
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  Speaker 1: Get to know who you are a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: All right. I don't swamp dog.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody calls me swamp dog in the cryptic world and
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  Speaker 2: out in real life too, I mean, you know, out
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  Speaker 2: out in the world, and uh but well, you know
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  Speaker 2: my channel is, you know, swamp Dog Overlain Adventures, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna start the channel like you know, like
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  Speaker 2: you know, doing the off roading Juan through the woods
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  Speaker 2: and doing overland camping and then uh I wanted to throw.
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  Speaker 3: H do you mean like a little bit of.
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  Speaker 2: My my boat hunting in it too? And okay, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe some fishing stuff. But uh do you
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  Speaker 2: mean everybody was talking me into like you mean also
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  Speaker 2: doing the cryptid? So uh do you mean overland camping?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna mix it up with a cryptid that way,
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  Speaker 2: like when I'm out in the middle of the woods,
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  Speaker 2: I can you know, I mean do my research and
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  Speaker 2: you know then you know, make my videos and yah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we enjoy life, man, I mean it doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to always be that. We always have to work hard
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  Speaker 1: and everything. There's things that you enjoy doing. And you're
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  Speaker 1: one of that people who enjoy the outdoors and fishing stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You wind me a lot of a lot of my
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  Speaker 1: dad's friends when I grew up, like you know, the
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  Speaker 1: hard nosed guy. Uh you you told me that you
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  Speaker 1: run a business where you actually fix trucks and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: I would do the mechanic. I I work on everything. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you mean I had work on like on tugboats. I
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  Speaker 2: worked on you know, big heavy equipment machinery. I work
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  Speaker 2: I tracked the tailors all the way down to your
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  Speaker 2: race cars. I do everything.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting. Here's this channel, guys. Check it out.
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  Speaker 1: It's uh the swamp Dog Overland Adventure at YouTube and
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  Speaker 1: it's uh uh so if you type in YouTube dot
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  Speaker 1: com at swamp Dog d O G G Lawless eighty
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  Speaker 1: eight and there you go. Guys, you can also maybe
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  Speaker 1: just go ahead and freeze the channel real quick and
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  Speaker 1: go and like subscribe to this channel because this gentleman
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  Speaker 1: does a lot of things. He's always been very nice
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  Speaker 1: to me, coming on my show and telling me about
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  Speaker 1: that unbelievable. So has anything happened since then?
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  Speaker 2: Have you?
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  Speaker 1: Have you been going fishing out there in that area
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  Speaker 1: to do striper fishing?
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  Speaker 2: I have him doing on fishing. I've been kind of busy,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean, but I had You haven't heard what happened?
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  Speaker 2: It was, uh, I'll say about a week ago, right, Well,
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  Speaker 2: i'll say about a week week and a half ago.
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, did you see.
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  Speaker 2: The live on that Cryptic podcast with like Yo Daniel Hamilton.
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  Speaker 1: No, I haven't had a chance. I think that one
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  Speaker 1: went up before my Man, if you knew the amount
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  Speaker 1: of videos that get sent to me every day, man,
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  Speaker 1: imagine now imagine what I get.
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  Speaker 2: You have to see that because I did a live
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  Speaker 2: with him. I can't remember what they was, but it
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  Speaker 2: was like two weeks ago maybe I think it was
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  Speaker 2: like two two and a half weeks ago, and on
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  Speaker 2: the live we had a possible dog man encounter while
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  Speaker 2: we were doing our lives and it was about I
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  Speaker 2: didn't see it, but everybody saw it on on live
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  Speaker 2: and it was at least by uh, you know, three
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  Speaker 2: dog man's that was around my truck. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: not closed, but it was there around and.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Daniel Hamilton's what's it called the Crypto podcast. Daniel Hamilton,
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  Speaker 1: I've had him on before. Okay, guy, and you can
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  Speaker 1: find that real quick, so we can so every we
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  Speaker 1: can check that out again.
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  Speaker 2: You guys gotta watch that video because it was possible.
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  Speaker 2: I was what happened that night. It was I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure it was ninety eight point nine that I had
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  Speaker 2: a dog man encounter live on the Crypti Podcast, and
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  Speaker 2: everybody was watching the videos. They were like enlarging but
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  Speaker 2: you know pictures, they've seen something on all fours. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was a wild night. It was a wild night.
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  Speaker 2: If you can look that video up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, where where were the where were you Where
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  Speaker 1: were you located when you were on with him?
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  Speaker 3: I was at my hunting spot.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 1: One.
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  Speaker 2: Uh no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wow, they we did our first one.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't in Forest Q where where I shot that
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  Speaker 2: dog man for attacking my wife four times. It was
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  Speaker 2: maybe about thirty minutes away from my first encounter. And
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  Speaker 2: uh yeah, that was a wild night unt spot.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome, Ray, Welcome. So people want here live people
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  Speaker 1: saying hello Jim from Night's Watch. You can go connect
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  Speaker 1: with Jim too, man and go on his podcast. If
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  Speaker 1: you get in contact with Jim. Uh he said, nice
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  Speaker 1: Camo truck, bro. So he went over to your channel.
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  Speaker 1: I hope he subscribed the gym. Michael Anthony was, no, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to.
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  Speaker 2: Start doing my I'm going to start doing my dog
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  Speaker 2: Man and you've me my bigfoot research hopefully next week,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's something to look forward to.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you started when do you start encountering bigfoot?
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  Speaker 2: When?
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  Speaker 1: When was this starting?
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  Speaker 2: I started counting bigfoot in nineteen eighty nine. It was
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  Speaker 2: I was a senior in high school. That's when I
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  Speaker 2: first saw my first You know bigfoot.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're nine years older than me because I
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  Speaker 1: was a senior in ninety eight. Okay, I'm forty five.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you're a baby.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Four.
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  Speaker 1: Nine years. Look the math checks out. I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I start creeping in pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Soon, just around when you start hitting fifty fifty.
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  Speaker 1: One, the painters start creeping in that. Oh, it's already
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  Speaker 1: creeping in. Bro dross me. But I do doll do
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  Speaker 1: some sports. I still get up and jump up and down,
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  Speaker 1: do some basketball, try to keep myself in shape a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. I'll be getting fatter here as I gotten older.
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  Speaker 1: But for a while there, about two years ago, before
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  Speaker 1: I met my new girlfriend who can cook, well, I
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  Speaker 1: was a little skinnier, but you know, it is what
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  Speaker 1: it is. But uh so nineteen eighty nine, what happened, man,
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  Speaker 1: walk me into what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, I had a Poniac Piero.
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  Speaker 2: Remember those Poniac Vieros, No little two cedar cars that
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  Speaker 2: kind of looked like a Corvette, but really short, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Like like like one of those Monsta fives or something.
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  Speaker 2: I guess a little smaller, I guess, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't remember give me that two Cedar cars like it
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  Speaker 2: was something like an MG. You know, I mean kind of.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: But the front end looked like kind of like a corvette.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it came down you have the next fling
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  Speaker 2: and and uh and then uh give me a buddy
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  Speaker 2: of mine. He had a Camaro and uh. We used
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  Speaker 2: to hang out at this airport. Uh you mean in
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  Speaker 2: violent New Jersey right up of Rock forty seven and
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  Speaker 2: uh and and so one.
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  Speaker 1: Night, you know, people are digging your truck.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, well I think they're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: the car.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody truck man. Well, so, uh, I wanted to go
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  Speaker 2: pick up my girlfriend and he went to go pick
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  Speaker 2: up his girlfriend. And you know we're now, dude, this
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  Speaker 2: is It's not a big airport. It's one of them
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  Speaker 2: little airports where you mean those crop planes yeah they
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  Speaker 2: take off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you mean it's it's like surrounded by woods and
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff. And we used to hang out back
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  Speaker 2: there and you know, make bonfires and you mean just
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  Speaker 2: hang out for the night.
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  Speaker 3: So so we.
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  Speaker 2: Was back there and uh yeah doing what you know
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  Speaker 2: teenagers do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially listen, Yeah, yeah, dude, I got you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you. Get your cigarettes rolled up in your sleeve
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  Speaker 1: in the eighty nine. Great here, Yeah, that was pack.
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  Speaker 3: Of marm brows back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's still on, but I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, but we were hanging out. I guess we
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  Speaker 2: were there for about a half hour. And uh I
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  Speaker 2: had looked across but well, you know the field well look,
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  Speaker 2: well you mean the property, but you mean like like
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  Speaker 2: it was an open, you know field, and.
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  Speaker 3: On the other side of the field.
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  Speaker 2: It was a but you mean, but give me the
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  Speaker 2: property goes up I don't know, about six seven eight
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  Speaker 2: feet you know up. I mean it was like a mound,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like a give me like a
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  Speaker 2: little hill, you know what I mean. Yeah, So I
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  Speaker 2: saw something and like it was all dark and it
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  Speaker 2: was walking from right to left, right to left, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I said my buddy, I said, Yo, what's
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  Speaker 2: that over there? And he says, I don't know. Some
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  Speaker 2: guy we thought was, uh, give me want hoboes or something,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like what do you call a vagrant or something?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And uh, I mean all that's
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  Speaker 2: all woods and so to.
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  Speaker 1: Me, we can hermits is the word we use hermits?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So what was this? What time of day?
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  Speaker 1: Was this dark night? The evening dark?
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  Speaker 3: Okay it was it was Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that night we had a full moved cause
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  Speaker 2: we got I could actually see the whole field, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, like you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And.
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  Speaker 2: So we kept looking at this thing like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: walking back, like right to laugh, right to laugh. I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 2: what the heck is this guy doing, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? But he was acting like he was I say,
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  Speaker 2: aggravated or you know what I mean, maybe because we
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  Speaker 2: were there, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So so me and my buddy kept looking at it and.
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  Speaker 2: Then like my friend said, he's like, yo, that thing
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  Speaker 2: is tall, and I says, yeah, it looks like it's
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  Speaker 2: like seven eight feet tall. I said, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's you know, I'm weird. I mean I'm
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  Speaker 2: six two, he's about six foot and uh, we're looking
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  Speaker 2: at this thing. I was like, man, that's like about
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  Speaker 2: seven eight feet tall. So so as we're talking and
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  Speaker 2: we're looking at it, it just kept walking right to left,
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  Speaker 2: right to left. I'm like, man, this guy, this guy's
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  Speaker 2: out there, you know what I mean. So, so what
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  Speaker 2: happened was we kept looking at it, and all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, give me near us, we heard a tree
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  Speaker 2: branch break and it sounded like a shotgun. And I
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  Speaker 2: looked at him and he looked at me, and what
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  Speaker 2: the hell was that? I don't know, but we out right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because so uh down here, down here like in South Jersey,
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  Speaker 2: you mean like be out in the woods and uh
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  Speaker 2: you mean out in the pine barrens and stuff. The
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  Speaker 2: sand is like, uh, gim me, we call it like
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  Speaker 2: it was sugar sand, and yeah, like you mean like
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  Speaker 2: just saying it is real.
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  Speaker 4: Fine, like loose, like real loose. Okay, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. But Jimmy, that's what we call it out here,
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  Speaker 4: like like sugar is saying. So have the Well, he
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  Speaker 4: took a guy in front of me. I got in behind.
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  Speaker 2: Him, and somehow so way he got stuck. So mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm behind him and I'm hearing noises where I heard
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  Speaker 2: that to me, that tree branch break, and we're getting
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  Speaker 2: closer to us, So I say, sick with this. I
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  Speaker 2: went around him and as I was going around him,
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  Speaker 2: he got unstuck and I got in front and we
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  Speaker 2: took off from that, you know what I mean, And
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  Speaker 2: we didn't go back. But I was talking to somebody
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  Speaker 2: like in the crypto world. Ah, he passed away. So
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  Speaker 2: he was telling me that that our preacher that was
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  Speaker 2: up in the hill was gim me distracting us by
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  Speaker 2: us looking at it, and the one behind us was
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  Speaker 2: coming in.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Okaystider, were kind of like the kind of distraction.
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  Speaker 2: So you mean they had a plan, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just what I am thinking. Give me, there's
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  Speaker 2: four kids out here and there partying, having a good time.
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  Speaker 2: So this one that we saw was going to distract
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  Speaker 2: us and then and then the other one was going
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  Speaker 2: to come in and do whatever he was going to do.
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  Speaker 2: But but I mean, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I said, there was one was distracting
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  Speaker 1: you in the front and the other one was flanking
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  Speaker 1: you from the side.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now there would be a probably territorial for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But now this is the cool part.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. The coup part was I've met my wife, you know, Tammy,
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  Speaker 2: about seven eight years later, I guess, yeah, And I
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  Speaker 2: was going out with her for about a month or two,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, I was gonna go out to Gloucester City
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  Speaker 2: to meet her parents, right, because after two months of dating,
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  Speaker 2: I never met her parents and her dad and.
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  Speaker 1: You got to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I had to shovel and make my presence and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I had to be on my good behavior that first.
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  Speaker 1: Day then and then I got the mill later.
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  Speaker 3: No, but you know what her father always said, he
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  Speaker 3: did like me, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So, so what happened was, uh, we're sitting around the table,
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  Speaker 2: and you mean we're talking about you know, but they're
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  Speaker 2: work and stuff because I mean, at the time I
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  Speaker 2: was an overod road truck driver and I was telling
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  Speaker 2: to him about my work and all that stuff and
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  Speaker 2: what I do where I go. And let me just
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  Speaker 2: see me having that conversation. So like, you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: having coffee and and uh we were having bagels and
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  Speaker 2: so you know, we're sitting around the table. Now I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know this. Her father was from Violent, where I
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  Speaker 2: lived and by the work where like all this stuff happened, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and at the time I didn't know this. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: Tammy told her dad, says, hey, dad, tell us Swamp,
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  Speaker 2: what happened to you when you were a kid when
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  Speaker 2: you lived in Violin and he didn't want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, and she kept edging them, all, come on,
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  Speaker 2: tell him, tell him the story, tell him the story.
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  Speaker 3: And he really didn't want to tell me, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, come on, just tell me the story,
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  Speaker 2: says I mean, I says, I mean, I heard every
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  Speaker 2: story out there, it says, all right. So when he
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  Speaker 2: was about I don't know, you know, thirteen fourteen years old,
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  Speaker 2: I think him and his buddies used to go camping
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  Speaker 2: there at that at that do mean airport, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: at that time it wasn't an airport or it was
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  Speaker 2: was you mean, like a field, and it was all
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  Speaker 2: the way around it, so like at that mound where
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  Speaker 2: I told you where i'd seen it first, where like
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  Speaker 2: it was walking right to left, right to left, right. Well,
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  Speaker 2: at that area right there, that's where they used to camp.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean they pitched a tent, you mean, they
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  Speaker 2: made a campfire, do me. They were cooking hot dogs
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  Speaker 2: and you know what I.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Mean, all that stuff.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: And when they looked up on top of the hill,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: there was an eight foot creature standing on top of
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: that mound where I seen it, and it wasn't moving,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: but it was just like you were looking down at him,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and uh and then when uh, I think he said,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: there were like four or five of them that were
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: camping that night, you know what I mean, And uh,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: when they looked up, they saw this creature give me
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: looking down at him. So I guess they were looking
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: at it, you know, for a minute or two, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: then it started coming down the hill towards them. And
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: when they saw that, they took off and you I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: mean they jumped on their bikes. It haul hall butt
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and I mean they went back there again. So that
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: was that.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Was yeah, I'm.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because when I had my first encounter,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I was back in nineteen eighty nine, in the fall,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: so he was only thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old. I
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: can't remember what he said, but uh, that happened back
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: in the forties, well, now, the fifties, it was. It
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: was it was somewhere back there. He was pretty old.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: My father in law was pretty old guy. Yeah, So
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that's what over forty years of like two stories, like
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you mean, over forty years apart at the same plight, Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean like in the same area, So
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you mean, and then I never told him about my
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: encounter yeah, I mean that day, you know what I mean,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I never said nothing. I just listened to the his encounter.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And then you mean I didn't tell my wife until
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know about a week later, and you know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: told her what happened to me, Like in the Saints
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: give me the same spot, you know what I mean? Right,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: But all my all my encounter, all my bigfoot encounters,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: except for one, it's all in that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Five or ten miles of the area.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And it's different. Is this different than the dog Man area?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, my first encounter from the dog Man area
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: is probably about i'd say about thirty I'd say about
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: thirty thirty five minutes away, okay.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So about like ten miles.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Uh, let's say about ten miles, right, about ten fifteen miles. Yeah,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: But except for what I had my Dogmen encounters that
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: was live on the Crypto podcast, that was about you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: three miles away from this airport.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Now, I mean, and you didn't start seeing
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: dog Man until recently, right within a year after something.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: It was the very first time I seen a dog man.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: It was the last week of August of twenty twenty four.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: That was the first time I seen one.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: So that's a year ago. Yeah, in a year, and
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: now you're seeing them more regularly. So it looks like
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: they it looks like they're interested in whatever you are
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: or what you're doing.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, but then when I did my Live
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: with the Crypto podcast, like I said, I was about
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes away from I shot.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: The thing, right, I mean, right right, yeah, dude.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: It's but ever since that's been going on, I mean,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of a lot of bad things that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: happened past week and a half. I've been I've been
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: in touch with you know, Darryl Detton, I've been I've
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: been in touch with you know, Joshua from you you
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: know for Mysteries Unknown and uh O'Daniel Hamilton yet me
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: for the podcast I've been talking about because after the podcast,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and like I mean, everything went crazy that night. I
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: mean everybody that was live that were Dangel told me
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: everybody was sitting on the edge of their chair because
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: of what was going on that night.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: So did you have the camera pointed? I didn't see it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna check it.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Out for me, but whenever watching me, they can see
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the reflection. I even had red eye shine behind my truck,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: but the camera saw it, and then Daniel and everybody
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: else is telling me to get out of there, get
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: out of there, and I'm like, yeah, I mean I
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: didn't think it was a dog man in there, but
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I mean I thought, uh, that's.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Secres this area where I hunt. I've been.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I think Gifting three, but you know, big foots there
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: for the past, you know, two to and a half
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: years with my wife.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: It's called the Live Show with Swamp Dog and the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Crypti Podcast. That's what it's called. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: there's the link in the bottom of the show. Guys.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I want to go check that out because.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not like, you mean, I'm not trying to put
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the crypto PaaS on plast but.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: My friend, I mean, you mean, even.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Like even my telephone was going in and out, in
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and out, in and out because all these things. It
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: was that you gotta see it, bro, I mean it
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: was I watched it like all the time, and you
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: mean I'm trying to look and trying to see and I'm.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Trying to see what on a certain times do you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: have any time stamps that we should be looking at?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, I gotta look again, you know, I mean, I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: gotta look at me. I'm looking for the front to
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the end, you know what I mean.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got you, I got you. Did you see
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: anything that they were pointing out?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I seen the pictures because Daniel, yeah, sent me some
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: pictures and I'm looking at him and I'm like, wow,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe I didn't see it. I got pictures
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of the red eye shinned out behind my truck. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: got a picture of something on all fours in the dark,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: but you can see the shadow on all fours.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, during the live.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: During the live, bro, I'm telling you, during the live,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: like you mean, like you mean?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: My wife was in the truck with me, like she
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: is right now.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And Hi, Tammy, Hi Tammy.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Hi?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm doing all right? How are you
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: ever since that that thing happened to you? You don't have
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to show yourself, but how you been doing everything that
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you got attack? Now you've been feeling I'm not myself,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: You're not yourself.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: No. I got a lot of fear.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I just don't know if I'll go baby to get
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: over it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think maybe eventually, whenever you're up to it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I don't expect you to. If you don't, that's also fine.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But maybe one day you can talk to me about it.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: You don't, we don't have to record it if you want.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: But I just want you to know that everybody over
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: here on this side, what we do over here on
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the show, as well as other shows, we believe you,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and we're with you, okay, and we pray for you.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You're welcome.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Talk to you one time.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: In a little bit.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I just, you know, I be able.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: To talk to There's a couple of people who I'll
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: talk to her like you're jobs and you know, Daniel,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: but she's not up to it, you know, I mean.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Sure, no no pressure, I understand. I mean I don't.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I don't understand, but I do understand. Yeah, okay, I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know you were there. You were
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: so quid Tammy. One time he looked over and I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: was like, who's he talking to?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I don't go anywhere with we always, I'm always I
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: don't go outside. I you know, like we live in
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: a residential area to giveing those houses all around us,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and uh, when the sun goes down, if she wants
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to go outside, and smoke a cigarette and have a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: cup of coffee. I have to go with her, Yeah,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you like, she don't want to get out of the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: house without me going out there.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Everyone's a very praying for you, Tammy. Everybody we understand, hugs, prayers, love,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: We understand my I don't. I don't know what to say.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: There's no like real psychologists or psychiatrists you can go
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: to to talk about these kind of things. We understand that,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: but the only thing that I know that helps is
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to talk about it and eventually and maybe go and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: talk to other people about it or meet up with
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: other people about it. When you guys finally get out
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to Tennessee, go and go to some of this conveny
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and talk to people, and you will find like minded
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: people and people have experienced the same thing, and it
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: should help eventually. But I don't. I don't know if
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: it'll ever go away for you, but we hope and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: we pray for that for sure.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Thankspecure, Thank You're welcome.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You're welcome. Okay, yeah, please please continue, my friend.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so you know we're doing that live and everything.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: We're crazy, as like I said, Daniel was saying, everybody's
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: on the edge of the chair because they're watching this
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: thing live. Now, I didn't see I didn't see it,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: but I heard it and I heard it walking and
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. So me, I'm thinking, it's my three guys,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: you mean, the ones that we've been gifted for two
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and a half years. So I get out of the truck.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Tammy's holding the phone and and on live. You mean,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: everybody can see me walking out in front of my truck.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And then I'm walking in the woods live. Oh you're
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: watching me. I'm walking in and I'm yelling at it
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: right because I'm thinking it's my guys, you know what
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, Yeah, it wasn't my guy, because it was
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: my guy. That's gonna let me know. Because when I
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: go hunting, where I got my tree stand or where
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I got my blind, I got a walk couple miles.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: You want me to get to my hunt spot. So
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: when I parked the truck in the woods, but h
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: eight out of ten times, they'll let me know they're there.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You mean they'll do like a wood knock, or they'll
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: do a whistle or do you mean they'll do something
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to let me know they're there. And I kind of
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: do the same thing. I'll uh, they'll hear me when
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I up my truck doors or you know something like
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll let them know that I'm there too,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But this has been going
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: on for two two and a half years, may three years,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But I mean we've been
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: gifting them. So when they're around me, I mean, like
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not scared or anything, you know what
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, And I feel safe knowing that they're kind
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: of around me in case something ever happens. I don't know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: it's weird. We got a relationship, you know what I mean.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Like it's weird, you know what I mean, Like you mean,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: it's hard to gift. We get these three now, I
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: don't know if there's any fever because all three are males,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the ones that we've been dealing with, they're males. Not
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to say there's not any females in there, but I mean,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I've never seen any of the females. The three males.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: The two are about seven foot tall and and the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: other one he's about eight. Now, you mean, they don't
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: come close to me, but sometimes I'll see them peeking
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: around the bus or give me they'll lift their head up. Uh,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: give me like a round, you know what I mean.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And and you know they're like twenty thirty forty yards
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: away from me, Well they let me know they're there,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So and then I'll hunt
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: all day. You know there's times I've been there all night,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: like you like me, and I'll go in there eight
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: o'clock at night, and I wanted to see where the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: deers are walking through right, I mean throughout you know
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, before that, Yeah, where they're betting and all
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that stuff like that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I got you back, right give me when it comes
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: to bow hunting me, I'm a I'm a hardcore bow hunter,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Like what you're using a compound psc browning?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: What youre using buddy, I use a well right now,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I'm using a bear because I like the I like
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the bear of bows.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I mean they're cheaper, but you know they're strong, Like
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: If I if I bump into a tree with my
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: bowl or something, I got a word back because they're
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a rugged.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I like my bare bows. I like hoids.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I have my dars. I got a darting too. That
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you mean you're.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Using compounds, using compounds, recurves, we're using I.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Use a recurve.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Well, no recurve.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no sorry sorry sorry say no no
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: no no he comtpound bo compound.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, dude, you are you are the man.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: You're running out there recurve because I want to get
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: into recurved boats. You know what I mean. It's a
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: lot of different Yeah, noah, bro, but but you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I want I want to get it into recurve.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: But I've been looking at them, you know what I mean.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: But so so these so.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: These so these uh these uh, the sasquatch, these big foot,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: they are out in your hunting area, and you don't
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you don't have the same fear as as when you
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: ran across that giant beast by the cemetery down there
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: were you not even close.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: No, not even close. I never I never, I never, ever,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: ever ever I can say that I had a problem
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: with these three never never.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, So there's been there's been more than the three off.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: There's the one you've seen in eighty nine, and then
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: there's the street. There's other ones too.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, okay, in the area, all except for one.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I had one encounter that was sixty miles away from
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: my house. We'll get into that one. That's I mean,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that's a that one that was that was one of
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: my best encounters. And uh but but but during these
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: three I never, I never had a problem. Me and
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: my wife will we'll go out and you mean, we'll
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: throw corn and sweet potatoes and stuff out put the deer,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and we never we never had a problem. I mean,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I mean, like I said, I
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: can walk in there at ten o'clock at night, which
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: was a flash flight in my hand, and I never
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: But the problem with that one is, ever since I
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: had that encounter with that dog man, that first encounter,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I haven't been like in the deer with I just
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: recently got my deer woods. Yeah, three weeks so just
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: since I had that dog man encounter, I haven't been hunting.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't hunt that fall, right right, because that last
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: week of August and at twenty twenty four, I didn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: hunt that whole year.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And I want to Okay, I'm gonna speak to the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: wider community right now who is watching this either on
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Facebook or in the future on YouTube. Now, Okay, I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: run across skeptics all the time, who who tell me
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: things like yeah, this, that and the other, and he
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: can't be Let me tell you something. This gentleman has
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: been hunting his whole damn life. And for a man
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: of this ilk to do what he does being a
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: bow hunter, if you guys don't know what that is,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you have to get rather close. What what's the follows
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you get away with fifty sixty yards? That's what you're
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: shot the fatherest one.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: The last year I shot was at eighteen yards. The
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: farthest I shot a deer was forty about forty forty
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: two yards.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Right, So so you got to get close to these things.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: So this guy is in the woods, he really reads it,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and for something to scare this gentleman in the in
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the way that it did, you go ahead and tell
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: me that he's wrong. You go ahead and tell me
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: that this person didn't have this encounter, that he's not
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: telling the truth. Okay, all right, back to the show,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: because I run across that a lot, dude.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: All right, buddy, well yeah, well so well, I mean
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I haven't been in the woods you know since my
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: first encounter. I didn't both hunt, I didn't both hunt
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: off ball. I didn't both hunt the winner. I'd ate fish,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, you know I usually
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: do my strapper fishing all the way through November. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: didn't fish. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even do that. So yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I mean I because when that dog ban encountered that
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: first one. That really mess me up. You know what
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I mean that. Uh, I swore that I'll never ever,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: ever ever go back in the woods. And uh, I
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: mean sometimes I get I get emotional when I talk
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: like that or when I think about it, because I
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: love being in the woods, you know what I mean.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I love being in the woods.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: And if you could drop me off in the middle
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: of nowhere with justin bow or a gun, that'd be good.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I would the cell phone,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I just get away from water,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: give me a water, a nice buck knife.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I'll be good to go.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I mean that that messed me up real bad. You mean,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I I'll stay because I did a I mean, I
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: did a podcast with Joshua about this, and uh, I
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: mean that really messed me up. In josh he was
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: always on the phone with me, uh, you know, talking
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: and texting, and he became a really good friend, just
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: like you, you know. Yeah, and and uh, I talked
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: and talked and talked, and uh, you know, Darryl Denton
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: got in my life and we always talked about it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And I mean somehow, some way, I mean, I had
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to get back in the woods. I had to, you
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. So just recently, you know what
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, like a few years. I mean, like a
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: few weeks back, I started going in my hunt grounds
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: and I was not only I was looking for deer,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I was also looking I called them my three you
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: know buddies, you know what I mean. So because I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: haven't been gifting them, you know, for almost because because
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: of what happened, right, Yeah, So I went in there
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: and uh, I didn't see them, I didn't hear them.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't you know what I mean, walked around the
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: woods for about two hours, let me checking things out.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I was by myself the first time, and uh then
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the second time, you know, Tammy where with me, and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: she didn't want.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: To go, but she went, okay, all right, Tam, good start.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen my three guys ever since. Uh do
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: you mean, like ever since I've been going in the woods.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I mean this past couple of weeks. I mean, I
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: haven't seen my guys. I call them my guys. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: know people think I wear it, but.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: About me.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: And then and then when the guy did this live
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: with Daniel on the Crypto podcast, that's when all healthbroke blues.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I mean, I'm I'm pretty sure
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: it was about hearing three dog man around me. From
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the video and from the pictures that Daniel has sent me. Okay,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, there were three of them
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: in there now. Just before we left the live, my
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: truck was running, I put it in reverse, and as
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I'm taking off, my wife says, I mean, I don't know.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I think you've seen it on the video. There it is.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I looked up and one had walked out of the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: tree line. Yeah, so that's how closely was and that there,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: when that thing walked out of the tree line, there
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: was one on my left. Because I can hear that
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: one walking. I didn't know about the one in the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: back where I told you about the red eye shine.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I hear it walking. I see it. And then.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: That one on the right.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: And when it came out the tree line, she saw
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: it first and she started flipping out. All that was
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: coming back, and I had a word about her and
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: she was like, you know, flipping out. I saw it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I put it in reverse and I took off. And
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that's when I told Daniel that one came out. One
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: came out on the tree line. And I've seen it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: It was about how tall you think that was? It
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: was like six seven feet tall. It was standing on
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: do you mean like you mean like like on those
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: legs and yeah, so, I mean, I don't know they've
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: seen it on the video, but you know we've seen it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: And you mean I put it in reverse, it took out.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, you took off and once that that's the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: area and then my phone went back to normal. Wow.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: What they were thinking it was because they were around
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: me something with my electronics on my phone, you know
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all my all my Christian friends in here tonight.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: All you guys go ahead, and you guys know what
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: you gotta do. Go ahead and throw the do what
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: you do, what you do, do, what you do. I'll
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: do what I do. You guys, do what you do.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't know. I mean, I guess you're
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: gonna have to. I would definitely rebuke your your your home.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: That's what I would do if you know how to.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: If you don't how to do that, go ahead and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: talk to Darryl about that. If not, you can talk
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: to Jim. Go ahead and rebuke your home and protect
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: your home because.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Because everybody's telling me that I gotta be careful for
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: these things will following you, because once they get a
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: set of you, yeah, they follow you. But the thing
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: with that is, you know what I mean. I mean
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: from where I had my first encounter with this dog
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: man and at my hunt spot, it's about, like I said,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes apart, right, But if I wanted to me personally,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I could walk through the woods and through the farmland
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and get from my first encounter to my encounter where
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: we had to live. I know, I can walk through
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the woods, even if it's a thirty minute I mean,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: you mean like a thirty minute ride in the truck.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: But if I wanted to, I can walk from point
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: A to point B right and not be you know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I mean because down here where I live it's all woods,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: all farmland. I mean, you know, we got residential areas,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: but I mean I can do it, you know what
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course if you know you're normally when
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: you have to drive, you have to kind of go around.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: So what me and Daryl thinking, as you know what
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they got our scent, you know what
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, and they started coming closer to where I live.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: That's what we're thinking. I don't know, because I'm going
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: to tell you all honestly before and I mean I
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: think I said this on a love on our last
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: show that we did that I never did believe in
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: dog Man right all these years. I watched him podcasts
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: and stuff, but every time somebody met the dog Man,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I used to laugh and like, there's no way to
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: such thing as a dog man, you know what I mean?
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: And man, you mean? And then you know that that
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: night when I had that encounter, that made me, you mean,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: that made me, That taught me right, there is uh
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: never say never, you know what I mean. When somebody says, oh,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I've seen this, who am I to say he didn't
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: see that? You know? Because when I saw that, I'm like,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: whoa I mean? Because my world turned around. I mean,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I said, I have my first dog man encounter.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: My whole world just went like a three eighty or
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: or three.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Sixty minus twenty degrees. We'll get there because the three six.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: My world.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: My world turned around. And everybody's wondering why.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Man, this guy used the bow hunt, always in the woods,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: always listening and doing nothing.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I was just sit on the porch. I mean, I
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: ain't doing nothing, you know what I mean?
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's that's the year. Yeah, be careful. I mean,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I know you have this. You have a bit of
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a vendetta from what he did this to Tammy, and
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I understand that. But at the same time, just careful, man,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Just be careful. If you need to, you reach out
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the outfit. There's a guy I don't know when you're
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: leaving to go to Tennessee or whatever, but there's a
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: gentleman in New York, uh the north North of New York.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: And like I was telling you, he's he's seen a
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff, dude, and he's very good at it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: And maybe you should talk to him too, because he's
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: had him actually come to his house.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so just just be yeah, talk to him
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and so you can kind of I don't want to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: scare you. I don't want to scare your wife either
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: of course right now, right now, Uh.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: The name betray my first encounter and the deal I
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: have him between me and my wife and be shooting
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: it there, I don't. I don't have a scared phone
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: on my body anymore. I just I just I'm more angry.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: And when I shot it four times, I mean I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: hope I did kill it, know what I mean? I
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: know I know that there's another one that was with
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: it that that night when I have my first encounter.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't see the second one, but I heard it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: But uh, I hope when I shot this thing that
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Daryl says I killed it me, I don't think I did,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: because when I shot it, it's like I told you before,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I mean like it ran in the woods like a
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: break train.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, bear, That's why Alfred was asking me about
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: what's the word he used? Let me see if I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: can do this. It's called a w.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: H heard of it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: It wasn't a gugway, you know what I mean?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: That I know for a fact because this thing had
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: that when I have my first encounter and all that stuff,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I always said this thing had ahead of a hyena,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It wasn't a gug wey,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And I'm probably you know,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I heard a lot of bad
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: stories about the gugweeds. You know.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a face has big foot legs and
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it's really big. He show. I didn't know what it was.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I never heard of it till today. Happy birthday by
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: the way to Alfred Santa Rica. Happy birthday, buddy, it's
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: his birthday today.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Guys supposed to be they're like very very nasty. They're like,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you know, more nannswer than a regular sasquads, you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: that's what personally, but that's what that's what I was told.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, but yeah, that live show was
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: messed up. Now a few days later and me and
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: my wife sit on the porch having coffee talking about
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: our bills and stuff, you.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, life stuff.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, animal Control pulls up in front of my house.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: So what to happened doing here? Right?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: So animal Control pulls up in front of my house.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: My wife looks at me.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I looked at her. I says, uh, I ain't called
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: no buddy, And you know what I mean. Our dogs
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: are docks and so I mean we have weener dogs.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, so you know what I mean. They
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: got the shots, they got the license, you know what
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I mean. So I'm wondering why he's there. So he
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: rolls down his window and he says to me, swamp dog.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: And I looked up. I looked at my wife. I says,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: swamp dog. He knows me by swamp dog, right. I said, yes,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: how can I help you? And he says, are you
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: swamp dog? I said, yes, I am. I said, what's
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the problem, you know, I mean, because I gotta think.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I gotta think about authority, you know, I mean, I
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: don't you know what I mean? Well, anyway, and he says,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: can I talk to you? And I says yeah, So
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I get up. I walked off the porch, walked to
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: my gate because I I have a fest around my
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: house and I mean, I walked up to the gate
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: and gets out of the truck. You don't come in
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: my property. He stays out the street. But you mean
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: on my gate, he says. I said, how can I
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: help you? And he says something about He says, we
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: know that you have seen things in the past, and
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: he wanted to talk to me about it, and I says,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about because I don't
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: know what you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you know.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, so, what are you talking about? He says, well,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: there's things been going on and we heard and he
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: never told me who. So I'm guessing that they have
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: seen me on the podcast before other podcasts me because
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I started doing Have a big Foot Society with Jeremiah
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: and all that, right, and but he didn't tell me who.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: But he says something like we heard, well first that
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: they have a problem and that they heard that, you know,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: they can talk to me, And I'm like, talk to
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: you about what? Well, he says, there's things. Now I'm trying.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: This is where I was trying to get him to
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: say bigfoot or dog man, but he never did. The
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: only thing he said was, you know, there's things out
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: there that we want to talk to you about. Okay,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm playing dumb, I mean.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Playing possum as we call it, plain dumb.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to see where he was coming from
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: and what he had on his mind. So he says, uh,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: do you got a half hour? I says yes, but
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I ain't doing nothing. He says, can you follow me,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, I mean, where are we going?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: So he says that there are three places where he
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: wants me to follow him to, and but they're close
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: to each other. He says, you know, they're like a
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: half a mile half a mile a mile will give
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: me a part from each other. I'm like, what what
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: is all this about? He says, I got to show you?
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: So all right, So I mean, I get ready to
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: get the keys and stuff, I get my wife stayed home.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I follow him.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Well I can't. I can't say the location yet, but
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I mean I will look in the future when I can,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: because they're still doing the investigation.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Ah god, dude, Oh my god, I'm afraid. Okay, please continue.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I went to a horse farm. But this guy, he
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: owns a couple of horses. I don't know, Like.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I counted like eight horses when I.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Went over there. So you know, we went all the
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: way in the back field and I I'm walking up
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: to a dead horse and I'm looking and it was
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: a bloody mess. So so as I'm walking towards the
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: horse with this animal control guy, the game warden was there.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, so.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at this horse. I walk up to the horse,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: and I said, what happened here? The game warriors said,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You tell me, and I'm like, I
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: didn't do this, you know what I mean? God, and
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: he says, we know you didn't do this, but we
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: know you. Like basically, the they were trying to say
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: that I know what did this. So I'm fishing, you
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, I'm fishing for what they got
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: on their minds. I said, so, what do you think
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: that did this? He says, it wasn't a cayo. No,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: as you know, we have one bear in the area,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: which is true because I seen the bear. Uh, but you.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: You're not going to do that.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: No, No, I mean, it wasn't a fox. It wasn't
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: wild dogs, he says. He says, you tell me. I said, well,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I know what did this? And I said, and I
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: know you did this. I mean, you know what did this?
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I mean I was not both of them, I says,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: but I know what did it? You know what?
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: The horse had a broken neck.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: The beellan from the you know from I mean I
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: caught the throat section of the horse. Okay, all the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: way down, all the way down to the bottom till
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: it was like sliced open and the guts were all
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: out of it, a blood everywhere. It was a nasty
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: your sight. I mean, I don't like to see animals
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: like that, you know what I mean?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but why, my friend, why would they have you
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: go out there? That's too much.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: That's animal control, That's what Donads didn't say. He was
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: surprised that they got me to see this stuff. But Danny,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: he was saying, they had no answers. And if you
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: got no answers, I guess you got the guy that
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: had the answers. The kind of took a shot in
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: the dark. Basically, they took a shot in the dark.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: And you see my truck. Everybody knows my truck. All
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: the cops, all the sheriffs, everybody knows my truck. I
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: mean you mean, I mean even the gang warrings they
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: see my truck. They know swamp dog. I mean, I
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: got but but uh so that was weird that, you know,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: law enforcement came to me and uh the horse, there
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: was no signs of anything eating that. You mean, there
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: was no signs of anything eating the horse. The horses okay,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: underneath of him, from the back here all the way
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: down to the bottom and you mean cuts lever everything
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: was out of it. It was just hanging out of it.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: And it looked like you got a chainsaw and you
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: just cut this horse up like this. I mean it
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: was a bloody mess, nasty, nasty.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: But did you see was it like was it like
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: multiple cuts? Like were something like?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: It was like rep? Yeah, you were repped. I mean
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: just like I said, like if you got a chainsaw
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: and you just went you know what I mean.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yes, I got you. So it's kind of crooked,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: not serrated clean cut. I got you.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: It was. It was nasty, I mean real nasty. So
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: so you know which.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: We're talking about it.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I mean I told the game warden,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I said, I know what did this? And I said
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I know that you know that what did Yeah, but
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: you guys ain't gonna come out and say it, and
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: you want me to say it. But then if I.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Say it, all that so much and you think I'm crazy,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: So you say.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: We all know what did this? We all saw it, and.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: We all come to the same conclusion.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Wasn't the bear, wasn't a coyo, was the fox, wasn't
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: wild dog, It wasn't no human being, because what's gonna.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Break the horse of a neck?
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: You know how strong? You know how you gotta be
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: to break a horse up a neck?
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: You can't mean yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: you can't. It's you can't unless you hit it with
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: like a I mean even a baseball bat wouldn't do
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: that now, No, I mean you really? Yeah, like maybe like.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Some type of guy hit it with a truck or something,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: or you know, like.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: A piece of like a tractor or something. That's what
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, right. I would love to I would
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: love to talk to them. I would love to talk
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: to them.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they will right now. I don't know. Yeah,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe Jimmy animal control, but I don't know.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: But so we were there for about ten to fifteen
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: minutes looking at this thing, talking. I'm telling them what
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: I think. And as we're talking, I'm looking into the
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: woods that I'm trying to see if I see it,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: like you mean, like a trail that's anything with walking
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: in and out of there.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're ripped through right, m right?
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: So and that you mean I'm looking on the round
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: for tracks and all that stuff. I didn't see no tracks.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: That was where too, because I didn't see no tracks
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: and and they were looking for tracks too. But you know,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: we didn't see nothing. I didn't see nothing. They didn't
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: see nothing. Unless they they like erased it. I don't know,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: because I don't trust law enforcement. I mean, I don't
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: trust Okay, no, hey, walk to the club.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: So so, and I'm a.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Control guy, and I mean, I'm not gonna give their names.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Adam a control guy. And the game war that we got,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: we got two more things to show you. I'm like,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: what a couple of houses down from this horse farm,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't see. I didn't see the dog because they
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: just buried the dog that morning before we got back
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: over there. But there was a oh yeah, but I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: seen by, you know, pictures of the dog. The old
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: man and his son one had buried the dog before
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: the granddaughter seen it.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, the.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: The dog was dead and the right hind leg was
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: ripped off and that yeah, yeah, that's what I told
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: the gay wards. So I see the pictures of it,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: and I'm standing in the backyard with this guy, let's talk.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: What he said was he lets dog out.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: About an hour later, he heard the dog barking and stuff,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: and he thought could have been a raccoon or kyo
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, and he didn't paid no mind to it.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: And then later on that night, the dog didn't come
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: back in the house and he went out there and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: he found a dog dead like that, with this right
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: hind leg ripped.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: When when did he find a horse? When did you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: find when? When did he find the horse?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, these are two different people.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, the horse they found that morning that that animal
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: control came to my house. Okay, okay, the dog they
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: found the night before, like you know what I mean.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: He was telling you why you were standing there?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah. So uh, I didn't see
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: the dog, you know, alive. I just seen pictures of it.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: And like I said, the right hind leg was ripped
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: off the dog, you know, was kind of so so
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: so I got all I was saying. The dog didn't
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: come back to the house, and you know that night
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: he went out there and he found his dog dead,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it was like I say,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: about two or three houses down from this horse farm.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: They were close to one another.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to walk to that second house. We walked
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: to the second house. That's how close it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, how far is this away from where you encountered
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: yours or where you did this with Daniel?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Uh, half a mile ain't nothing, man, No, I mean
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I go to have them right now, yeah, in good
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: shape or really like a half a mile. I mean
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: it's not far. So I felt bad for the guy
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: because you mean the old man will say, man, he
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: raised his dogs and it was a puppy like eight
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: nine weeks old, and you mean the dog always went
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: with him everywhere, you know, but uh, you mean they
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: buried that dog.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: The group and uh, I said, all right, So I'm
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: looking at these guys.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: They're looking at me, and we're talking, and again I'm
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: looking to see where anything be coming in and out,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: looking for tracks. We didn't see anything. So the guy
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: the game warring says, h I have another game ward Well,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I mean they call himself.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Conservation officers.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I call him game warden dn RM dnry.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: He says he's got a guy at the third spot
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: that they're taking pictures and they're looking in the area
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And I said, where's that at
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: and he says, up the road by the power lines. Well,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: that's where I hunt. I hunt the para lines. Then
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I started. I knew they were there because of the live.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't say nothing about the live, you know, with
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Daniel right, so the power line, I said, oops, I know,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Here we go. So I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: walked all the way down to para lines, all the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: way down to the end. It's probably about a half
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: a mile walk. I walked with his game boarding, walked
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: with well, you mean animal control. And at that last
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: tower that we can walk into, I mean you mean
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: walk too, secause on the other side, it's like, I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: want to say, it's a river. I guess it's like
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: a stream, but but it looks like it's marshy. It's like,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: you're real high grads. You can't walk through that. I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: did once, but I wouldn't do it again. But that's
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: a bad area to walk through. And I really want
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: to drag a deer through there either, So that's why
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: I had to go there. So when we get to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: the last tower, we bear out to the left, and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: when we bear out to the left, I'm thinking, these
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: are the guys gonna go pump right into my hunt stand,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because I left my hunt
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: stand there. But we quite didn't go to my hunt stand.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: The game one was there taking pictures. I mean that
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: was another one walking around the area. You know, there
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: was circles. So when I come up to, I walk
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: up to a bunk. It was an eight point buck
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: just ahead nobody.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: And this When did this happen again? Last week?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one day they come over. They came over.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: It was like three or four days after the live podcast.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that was like yeah, I mean, yeah, this
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: bug I'm thinking, sob you mean after the shot this yeah,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I mean hunt see yeah, I mean.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I got you.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was it was just ahead, they're taking pictures.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: The other guy he's walking around like like twenty yards
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: and he walked around thirty yards. He's looking for I
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: guess basically he's looking for the body who was just ahead.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: And you could tell the head was ripped off, mean,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: wasn't cut was like that. The head was ripped off,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, you can see you
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I'm looking at this buck
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the game warden and I'm like,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I said, so what are you going to do now?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: But how they found that head was that morning there
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: was a guy riding his electric bike.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: And you know, they got trails going through there. Okay,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: he's going through.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: The trails, and when he came across, like you know,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, the head of this buck, that's when he called,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: you know, me, the game warden. Let him know. He
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: stood there until they showed up. I don't know why
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: he did that, but but like you know, that's who
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: found the head, was the guy that was riding his
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: electric bikes you know, through woods and trails. That's how
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: they found that head.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: And so it's like a it's kind of like a
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: rampage massacre of sorts, like these things kind of went
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: off the rails. It might be that that maybe you
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: fired off on that one and he's he might still
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: be out there, man, he maybe you know what I mean,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: because a wounded animal can do some crazy shit too,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. I mean I can't because
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: I can't. Yeah, I can't tell you it was the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: same one I shot, But you know what I mean,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But uh, that's so, you mean that's
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: three animals. So then I kind of got aggravated and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: I said, Uh, what you guys gonna do about this?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I says, you know, next could be a little kid,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: it could be somebody you're hiking through the woods. I mean,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: what you guys gonna do about it? He said, we
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: don't know what to do about it? So when you
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: to figure it out? Because I mean that you already
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: seen the horse, you've seen the dog, and now you're
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: me for something to grab. A eight point fuck I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: ripped the head off, and you don't see a body anywhere.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like it ripped the body off
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: and just carry the body wherever the hell it went,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: right if we just you know what I mean? I mean,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I seen the blood trail, but after a while you
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: lose the boat trail because it just disappeared. You know
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Right y, So things are going on
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: around here, and it's like it seems like they want
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: to involve me, you know what I mean. I talked
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: to Aimal Control the other day. He stopped by the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: house again and he was telling what I think, I says.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: I said, whatever it is, you guys better figure out
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: how many there is, where are they at, and you
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: better make sure you kill it before it kills a kid,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: it kills somebody else.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Or at least in the very least inform the public.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: They don't want to do that.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: They have to, dude. Okay, look everybody, everybody wants Okay, everybody,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: can you at least how many county the county that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: you're in the county. Don't tell me where you are,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: just the county.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Do you think I said, test the county that I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: won't get in trouble, right, Okay, I live in Cumberland County, all.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Right, cumber County. All right, Guys.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: People out there that yeah, I don't want that, but
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: I do want people to be their investigation. But they
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: don't want to tell the public. I know that for fact,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: because I said, I said, listen, you better just spill
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: the beans and let people know because somebody's going to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: get hurt or killed one of the two. And when
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: that happened, I told you, it's on their hands, and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: when it happens is in your hands.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: And I'm spilling the beans.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to the beans.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: I'm to tell the world what's in here, and it's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: up to you guys, you know what I mean.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: So so you mean I left that and like I said,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: three days ago, animal control came by my house and
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: you know, this time he sat on the porch and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: he's like, you know, there's things going on and stuff,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: and you know, they really they really don't know how
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: to deal with this. I mean, they really don't.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: And then I asked him, I said, well, how you
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: guys heard of me?
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: He says, we have our ways, you know what I mean.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: There's people watching.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: So then I said, oh, so we got people watching
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: podcasts and watching. He said, well yeah, and we heard
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: about you, you know what I mean. And I'm like, oh,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: so you know that's.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: I'll what it is. But they don't want to They
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: don't want to tell the public.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Bro, they don't. They told me, you know what I mean,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: They know that I do podcasts, they know that that
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: talk dude, you got me different researchers. They know what
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: I do, I do my thing and all that. But
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: as far I mean, they just don't want to say nothing. Yeah,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, and they don't, you know, I mean, they
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: don't want to say nothing.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to change. I'm gonna have to go
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: through and change this whole my my thumbnail, all the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: information here and redo everything, because I think this needs
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: to be put out at least in the grassroots area
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: of what we can do. Do me a favor, anybody
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: listening to this, anybody, if you see this, post it
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: where you can post it. Not for me, not for me.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with me, nothing to do
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: with me. Thank you. I know it takes a lot
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: of guts to do that, and Tammy, it takes a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: lot of guts to do what you did too. It
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: takes a lot of guts to come forth with this.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: You completely you completely up ended this show and what
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: it was going to be about to turn it into
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: a p s A. Which is fine, which is what
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: you should do. I think that's a I think that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: is an admirable thing, an admirable thing to do.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: And I know you're you're kind of sticking your neck
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: out doing it, and I want you to know, man.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: I've been sticking my heck out all my life, you know.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: But the thing is, I've been talking, like I said,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: you mean, like you and I've been talking to the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: game Warrins. I've been I've been getting it real close
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: as animal control guy, and uh it seems like I mean,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: they didn't come out and say it, but like, but me.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: But the way I'm reading it and the way they're
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: talking can especially with his animal patrol guy, it seems
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: like they want me to get involved. Yeah, Like I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: mean I don't know yeah.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, but what that what would that entail?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: I think they want me to kill it or help
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: them kill it. Yeah, but you but I think that's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: what I'm getting out of it. I mean, they didn't
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: come out and tell me that. The way they're talking,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know it. I think they want
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: my help and killing it or then you may get
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: rid of it. But the thing, the thing is, it's like,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: how how is one to do that?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: What do you do a drive? You do a drive?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Do you like go through the area and drive you
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? Right? How would you do that?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: How would you ensure the safety of people these things?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Are you hit it four times with a freaking forty four, dude,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: and you're not sure if you got it or not?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna go out there with a thirty eight?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: I think I think if I would have show in
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: the back of the head when I grabbed my wife. Yeah,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: I think I would have killed it, you know, mean
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: it those four shots in the back in the head.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: That was my mistake, you know, I mean I should
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: have I should have shot it in the back of
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: the head and not in the back. But then again,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: it's like dark, I don't know if I killed her
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: or not. I don't think I did. Darrell didn't think
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I killed it, But I haven't been back there. And
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: you know, Darryl hasn't been back there either. Yeah, he's
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: a parentcy now, but he told me when he gets
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: back from Tennessee, he wants to take a walk out there.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: And I said, all right, no problem.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Pam. I think Pam nailed that. She said,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: it's not your job, dude, She said, to take care
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: of this problem. I think, honestly, in my opinion, of course,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: you are a man. You do your own damn thing.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: I would never tell you what to do ever, uh,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: man the man. But at the same time, you were
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: doing more than you possibly know, than you could possibly
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: realize by saying what they says. So please, once again, guys,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I know I'm going a little bit long today. I'm sorry.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: The Magical director Journey podcast. If you guys want to
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: go over, Uh, he's gonna be up in about ten minutes.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: No worries, Just go do that and this might end
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: soon anyway. But it's not your job to do that, bro,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But maybe you have the
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: inkling to want who's you know, being that it did
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: what it did to your wife, like Tam, it's not
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: there what it did to you Temmy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I personally, I know it's not my job. I
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: could just walk away from it, you know what I mean.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: But since my first encounter were this dog man deal
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: and we'll have it with my wife, yeah and everything
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: I did you mean to say my wife? It could
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: be in my mind is how I'm thinking. It could
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: be I'll give a ten year old girl riding her
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: bicycle down the street alongside the woods. Or it could
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: be yeah, ladies hiking in the wood. So if something
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: would ever happen, and I hope it doesn't nothing happens, yeah,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: I probly will feel guilty because, yeah, you know, it
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: has opportunity to help these fellas and get rid of
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: it or get it out of our area at least, okay,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: because it's something. Listen, if something were happened to a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: little ten year old kid. I will I couldn't let
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: that down, you know what I mean.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, yeah, neither neither. I wish I was
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: with you. Honestly, I wish I was there with you. Yeah,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I feel about that.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: It's easy to say, well, it's not your job, but
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: then I've been having these encounters.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: And I'm right, you're right. No, no, no, you're right.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: The reason why they come find me, you know what
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like Daryl says, they want your help. Look,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, they want information. They want to know what
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, then if it's true, if this is true, what
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: you're saying is happening, then you need to contact them.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: You guys need to have you know, sit down at
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: a bar somewhere, at a coffee shop or cafe or
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: some ship. Sit down, have a cup of coffee, and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: lay all your damn cards on the table. You tell
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: them what that. You tell me what you know, and
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I know, and we will devise
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: a plan, a strategy.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: All this time, all this time, I'm trying to get
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: them to say bickfoot or dog man.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: They won't say that. They will never say that.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Every time I talk to these guys, they will never
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: say bickfoot or dog man mm hmm.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Ever, I mean right, because because the thing is is
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: that they're protecting their job instead of protecting the community.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Will just should be, Oh, our only thing is to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: protect the nature. No, your your Your job as a
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: DNR officer is to protect both both both.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to protect nature and you're supposed to, you know,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: protect your citizens of your.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Why do you think you when you go up with
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: his rifle season, why do you think you go out
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: with two hundred and fifty square inches of fluorescent orange?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Is to protect the hunters. Yeah, so it's the same thing.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: So they need they need to step up.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: But eventually something's going.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: To happen because these things seem to be on the rise,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: whatever is going on the freaking.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: They still here. I know they're here, so just me,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: I know they're here. They're here, but they better do something.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many they are. We possibly seen
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: three on that live I don't know if there's anymore.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: What you mean, I don't know, but.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this, but you kind of know, but
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: you kind of know where they are.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: You kind of.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe one hundred acre or two under acre spot
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: in that area. You have them kind of around this
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: not too far from the Pine Barons. You know, I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: told you this before.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: The Pine Barans is over a million acres and what
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: connects to the Pine Barrens is Marsh River Stream.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: That's where they are.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm down here, you know. I mean, like everybody
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: would think New Jersey is like part of New York
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: City down here in South Jersey, it's not. I mean,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. If I committed a crime,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I know I can go in the woods and they'll
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: never find me. I'm serious.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know quite how to how to end
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: this show, man, I don't know how to quite an
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: end this thing. But I just okay from from for
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: at least from me and everyone over here in the chat. Yeah,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: everyone here on the chat. Everyone, We want you for
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: all the for for everything, to be safe, protect your family,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: protect your wife, Pam, Pam, everybody, Tammy. You know that's
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: the first thing we want. We want you to be safe.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: That's the first thing. Uh. You coming forward and talking
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: to me for me is uh, it's amazing, shocking. You
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: had me in tears over here, dude when you said
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: what you said. You're a good man. You're a good man. Yeah, buddy,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: I wish, I wish I could go there and arm
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: some you know me because I'm a former Army. I'm
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: former army dude, and a know two two three round?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: You know what is it?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Five five six? Yeah, it's similar NATO around. That's not
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: going to do it. But yeah, man, I don't know
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: how to end this show man, but I just want
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: to thank you so much for coming on the sharing
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: this and.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Anybody got any questions or I mean, if anybody got
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: any questions, and uh give me my Facebook page. It's
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: the same thing. Uh mean, it's the same thing as
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: a YouTube channel. I mean, swamps all over that adventure.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: If anybody want to message me, ask me a question,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: or if they have a problem, I can possibly help them,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been just deep right now, you know what
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: I mean. I understand, But I need you to talk
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: to somebody when you get a chance. I've been mentioning
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: his name because he reached out to me about you.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: His name is Alfred Santa Riga from the Bronxville, paranormal society.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: This man has had them at his house. He's he's
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: found the nest of them in a swamp. Okay, he
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: knows about them. He can possibly give you a little
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: bit of like, you know, what to do, what to
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: maybe think about these. He said, he's right there in
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: New York. Was it maybe hour and a half two
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: hours away from you, something like that.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm staying New York, you know, I'm stayed New
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: York to pick state.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, he's not that far from the city
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: as far as I know, and I don't really know
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: where he is, but but it's everybody that you could
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: reach out to at least get some more information what
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: to look for, because he's actually really I really trust him.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: He's a cool guy and he's always been straightforward with me.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: And uh, I thank you so much for coming on
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: to day and sharing basically you're always talking.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Mean, anytime you want me on the show or if
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: I come up, yeah, I mean, I'll let you know
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: and all that. You know, you're like you're part of
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: my circle, like this a researcher between you and Josh
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: and Daniel and you and Darrell that and all that.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: You guys you know, I mean, you know what I mean.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just a medium, just a medium to get it
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: And in the end, learning about these things helps protect lives.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: We can do all that stuff, but until law enforcement
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: or the government can say yes, they're out there, we're
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: on our own. Really, I mean, you know what I mean,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: me and you and everybody else. We can go on
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: the podcast, then you mean, we can let people know
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: that way they're careful and they're safe, and you know
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: they're no you know what I mean. Where you're walking
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: in the woods or or if you're camping or something,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: don't let your kids you'll go far.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're doing what the government is supposed to
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: be doing. You know what I'm saying, be aware.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: That's all great message. If you're going to go out
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: and enjoy the outdoors. We're not saying don't, but we're
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: saying for be aware of all times where your children are.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: You look for the marks, look for the signs, and
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: you see orbs, you hear tree knocks, even if it's
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: that big football, it doesn't matter. A check. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: get out of there.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: I always tell this to people when you walk in
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: the woods. The woods can tell you a million stories
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: if you look for it.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well said a trail and you.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: See a twig broke. Okay, a deer walk through here.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean, just don't go in the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: woods nonchalant walking and having a good time. You know,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: you gotta be observant. I mean, yeah, that goes these creatures.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, because you mean, like I said, you mean,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: it could be wild dogs, it could be cat, it
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: could be a bear. I mean, wherever you're at this country, anything,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: even rattlesnakes. How many times you hear people they walk
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: in the thread and also they step on a rattlesnake.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Even worse is, uh, do you guys have copper heads
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: out there where you're at?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: We don't have copper We got rattlesnakes, but we don't
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: have copper heads.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, copperheads, guys, you smell cucumbers. You're not at a
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: solid bar. Okay, all right, man, I appreciate so much
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: for you coming on to day dude. Everyone. This has
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: been a very, very very crazy episode, man, and thank
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: you so much for coming on to share with me.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: It kind of change gears on us. And but it's fine, dude.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: You needed to say it here.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: I couldn't say too much because, like I said, they're
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: still doing their investigation. And they told me that they're
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: still doing it. Do you mean like, okay, I just
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to be careful. But I don't want
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: to get in trouble too.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: No, I don't want you to. I don't want that either.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: For you money, Thank you so much. Coming on, Tammy.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Take care of yourself, take care of yourself and don't
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: worry about it. You never have to come home with
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: me if you don't want, no big deal, It's fine,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: I promise.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Just give me a little bit of time.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: No problem.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: You.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: You reach out to me in your own time and
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: your own patience, and I'll be here. Okay. Thank you,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and thank you swamp Dog, and
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: thank everybody out there.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Remember guys, we are the Eye. We are aware. Be
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: careful out there, love you all, be careful, have a
• 1:27:23
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• 1:27:35
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