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Tim Kurkjian joins Fair Territory: USA beats DR, Italy vs. Venezuela · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Monday episode of Fair
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  Speaker 1: Territory with Ken Rosenthal. As you can see, that is
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  Speaker 1: not Ken Rosenthal. I am absolutely privileged to be joined
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  Speaker 1: by my friend Tim Kirchin, of course does a tremendous
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  Speaker 1: job covering Major League Baseball on ESPN, the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: two BBWAA Career Excellence Award recipient, as well as the
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  Speaker 1: co host of Is This a Great Game or What?
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  Speaker 1: With his son Jeff, part of the Foul Territory Network.
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  Speaker 1: More on the show in a few minutes. Tim, great
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  Speaker 1: to be with you. Thank you for spots. Starting for Ken,
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  Speaker 1: It's awesome to have you on the show. I am
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  Speaker 1: very interested in knowing what your takeaway is from last
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  Speaker 1: night's game. Usas win two to one over the Dominican Republic.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was a great game, and it's just another
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  Speaker 3: reminder how great the young players are in today's games.
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  Speaker 3: Look at the three guys who hit home runs last night.
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  Speaker 3: They are part of an incredibly bright future for Major
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  Speaker 3: League baseball. There are stars everywhere, a lot of Ever
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  Speaker 3: since Mike trouton Bryce Harper came in essentially together what
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  Speaker 3: thirteen years ago, the wave of players who are coming
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  Speaker 3: to the big leagues. They are so big, they are
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  Speaker 3: so strong, they are so fast, they are so talented,
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  Speaker 3: and they are so ready when they get here.
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  Speaker 1: That was my.
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  Speaker 3: Takeaway when you look at all those All Stars and
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  Speaker 3: then you look at the age of them. The game
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  Speaker 3: is in really good hands moving forward, and yet it
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  Speaker 3: really well. It bothered me a little bit that the
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  Speaker 3: game was about, you know, the final pitch of the game,
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  Speaker 3: which wasn't a strike. We shouldn't be talking about a
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  Speaker 3: missed call, an umpire or anything else when there's this
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  Speaker 3: many great players on the field. But that's what a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people were talking about in the game last night. Unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is unfortunate because that game was so good
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  Speaker 1: up until that final moment. But that being said, whether
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  Speaker 1: it was a bad call or not, tim the Dominican
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  Speaker 1: Republic wasn't that great when they had the opportunities to
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  Speaker 1: be great two for nine with runners in scoring position,
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't as if they did not have chances.
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  Speaker 1: Are you surprised that that lineup was not able to
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  Speaker 1: capitalize in the big moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always surprised when a really good lineup gets
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  Speaker 3: shut down. Like that at the same time, Alana, we
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  Speaker 3: know this the pitching in the big leagues, the stuff
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  Speaker 3: we see every day. I say it every time I
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  Speaker 3: do a game, watch a game, how does anyone get
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  Speaker 3: a hit anymore? And I was told yesterday, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the United States bullpen is not very good, you know,
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  Speaker 3: given all things, And yet the bullpen was absolutely tremendous
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  Speaker 3: last night. They had very little chance to get hits
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  Speaker 3: off of that bullpen. And when you watch Mason Miller pitch,
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  Speaker 3: you ask all the time, how did anyone ever get
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  Speaker 3: a hit off of that guy? So yes, I'm surprised
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  Speaker 3: that that great lineup got shut down. But just another reminder.
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  Speaker 3: When our pitchers are locating with that ridiculous stuff, when
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  Speaker 3: they throw it where they want to properly, the hitters
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  Speaker 3: virtually have no chance. And these are some of the
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  Speaker 3: best hitters on earth. This is why the United States
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  Speaker 3: struck out fifteen times yesterday and won the game. This
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  Speaker 3: is what we face every single night. The pitching is ridiculous,
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  Speaker 3: and if you miss in the strike zone, it's not
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  Speaker 3: a single of the left field anymore. It goes thirty
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  Speaker 3: rows up. But if you locate with that ridiculous stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You don't just get people out, you strike him out.
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  Speaker 1: Mason Miller, Man, I tell you what, if you're in
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  Speaker 1: the National League and you're specifically the nationally West, you
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  Speaker 1: know a lot about Mason Miller. How does he compare
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  Speaker 1: tim to other dominant closers that you have covered in
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  Speaker 1: your tenure.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he throws a hat as hard as just about
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  Speaker 3: any closer that we've seen. And he's got that slider too,
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  Speaker 3: which he can balance and people still swing at it
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  Speaker 3: because they can't lay off of it. And alta. You
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  Speaker 3: know his story too. Remember he told me once that
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  Speaker 3: he got so sick that he went down to one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty pounds. Well, why weigh less than that,
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  Speaker 3: but not many people do. And he's now up. Then
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  Speaker 3: he gained back to like twoint fifteen and started throwing
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  Speaker 3: really hard again. So he's been through a lot. And
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  Speaker 3: go look at his numbers in the World Baseball Classic.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not positive about it, but it's like fourteen batters
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  Speaker 3: faced and ten strikeouts against the best hitters in the tournament.
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  Speaker 3: That's how good he has been. I've seen better closers
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  Speaker 3: than him because they've done it for longer. But when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to overpowering stuff. Not too many better than
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  Speaker 3: that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Tim, And it wasn't just the fact that they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: capitalize with runners in scoring position. This is a game
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  Speaker 1: that really illustrated that base running fundamentals they still matter
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  Speaker 1: that momentum swing. Of course, when Aaron Judge threw out
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  Speaker 1: Fernando Tatis Junior trying to go first to third, and
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  Speaker 1: then the second time you have the opportunity to get
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  Speaker 1: to third, he stopped at second base and that proved
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  Speaker 1: to be a turning point in the game. So this
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  Speaker 1: is where the fundamentals the base running doing the little
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  Speaker 1: things really showed and reared its uglyhead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of Six years ago for ESPN dot com,
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  Speaker 3: I wrote a story that base running is the worst
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  Speaker 3: I have ever seen it in all the years that
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  Speaker 3: I've covered. And I didn't just make this up. Paul Moleander,
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  Speaker 3: Dusty Baker, all sorts of you know, veteran Major league
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  Speaker 3: players and managers told me it's the worst we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: So I wrote another story this spring, and as a
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  Speaker 3: run yet on the similar topic that if you don't
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  Speaker 3: run the bases properly, it might cost you a game.
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  Speaker 3: And to some degree, it cost the Dominican Republic a
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  Speaker 3: game last night. You got to go from first to
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  Speaker 3: third on that ball. You got to score from second
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  Speaker 3: on that ball. And my story that I wrote is
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  Speaker 3: all about getting a good lead, a secondary lead, which
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  Speaker 3: we don't talk much about. But because the players just
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  Speaker 3: overpowered the sport with their physical gifts, their strength, their size,
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  Speaker 3: their speed, their velocity, they are not always taught by
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  Speaker 3: the industry how to get a good lead, how to
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  Speaker 3: run the bases properly. And last night it didn't cost
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  Speaker 3: him the game, but it sure didn't help the Dominican Republic.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Fernando Tatist Junior seemed like he was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit gunshy going again because of the previous you know,
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  Speaker 1: at bat or whatever, when he was thrown out by
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Don't run on number ninety nine, Tim, Who
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  Speaker 1: is the best base runner that you have ever covered?
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  Speaker 3: Paul Monitors the best base runner that I've ever covered,
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  Speaker 3: And I've talked to him about this multiple times a lot.
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  Speaker 3: He played a game that same name that we played
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  Speaker 3: when we were kids. It was called hot Box, and
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  Speaker 3: hotbox is when there's a guy in a rundown and
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to get from base to base. You could
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  Speaker 3: play hot box with three people. You don't need eighteen
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  Speaker 3: people to play hot box, he said. We played that
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  Speaker 3: for hours at a time when I first started covering baseball.
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  Speaker 2: On it.
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  Speaker 3: He would get on first for the Brewers, Robin Yell
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  Speaker 3: would hit a rifle shot to right field, and all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's first and third with nobody out.
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  Speaker 3: Molder was so good at taking a big lead and
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  Speaker 3: understanding the dynamics of running the bases. He could sometimes
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  Speaker 3: get so far off of first base that he could
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  Speaker 3: peek in and see the catcher's sign from first base.
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  Speaker 3: This is back when we used to put signs between
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  Speaker 3: our legs like that. That's how good he was. Joe
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  Speaker 3: Madden told me the other day, Paul molders the best
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  Speaker 3: base runner I've ever seen. And we've had so many
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  Speaker 3: good ones, Davey Lopes, Joe Morgan, you know, Lou Brock.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, Ricky Henderson was great, but the best I've
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  Speaker 3: ever seen was Paul Molder. And I quoted him in
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  Speaker 3: this story about the importance of base running, and he
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  Speaker 3: told me, it's always been the most fun part of
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  Speaker 3: the game for me, and yet we don't really stress
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  Speaker 3: it very often in the big leagues, and sometimes it'll
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  Speaker 3: come back and get you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Davey Lops That's one of the guys
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  Speaker 1: I know with such a tremendous first base coach because
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  Speaker 1: he'd really tell the tendencies of the pitcher, knowing exactly
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  Speaker 1: what those guys were going to do. Tim you had
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the great hitters already at the age under the
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  Speaker 1: age of twenty five, Junior Camenaro, the home run Gunnar
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  Speaker 1: Henderson only twenty four, of the home run Roman Anthony
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  Speaker 1: just twenty one. The Boston future in terms of star
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  Speaker 1: studded power there so young star power is in the sport.
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  Speaker 1: But let's talk about this in terms of the face
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  Speaker 1: of it right now. Aaron Judge obviously is Team USA's captain.
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  Speaker 1: But is Paul Skins the pitching face of the sport
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think he is. Alana, I have never seen
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  Speaker 3: in the forty five years that I've covered a pitcher
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  Speaker 3: come in and make this kind of impact in his
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  Speaker 3: first two full seasons now or his first two seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Fernando Alzuel had a nine star stretch at the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of his that no one will ever match but Skeens
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  Speaker 3: has essentially done this for two years. You could make
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  Speaker 3: a case that the day he arrived in the big
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  Speaker 3: leagues two years ago, he has been the best pitcher
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  Speaker 3: from that day until this day. And he still is.
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  Speaker 3: He's six', six he weighs two point. Fifty he's got ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff he's a absolutely maniacal, competitor and all he cares
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  Speaker 3: about is. Winning and even though he only went what
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  Speaker 3: four and a third last, night he gave them a
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  Speaker 3: chance to. Win IF i had anyone to pitch one
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  Speaker 3: game for me right, NOW i would pick. Him and
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  Speaker 3: he is the face of pitching in baseball, certainly and
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  Speaker 3: he showed it to some degree last.
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  Speaker 1: NIGHT i love the fact that no free passes, either
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  Speaker 1: zero walks on the night Four. Skeens of, Course Mark,
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  Speaker 1: durosa tim took a lot of heat for the. MISSPEAKING
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  Speaker 1: i guess that he felt that the team had already
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  Speaker 1: punched their ticket to the. QUARTERFINALS a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: vindication last night though for d row by Starting Gunner
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  Speaker 1: henderson Over Alex bregman at third Against. Louisino, Obviously severno
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have the best luck against.
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  Speaker 2: Lefties did you like that MOVE i.
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  Speaker 3: Did BUT i will say how difficult it is For
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  Speaker 3: mark De rose to Tell Alex, Bragman, okay you're not playing,
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  Speaker 3: today to tell Cal rawley with sixty omers you're not playing.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight how do you do? That that is not an easy.
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  Speaker 3: Decision But Gunnar henderson is one of those Guys alna
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  Speaker 3: that we're talking. About he's twenty four years. OLD i
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  Speaker 3: remember during his rookie YEAR i Asked Aaron boone About
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  Speaker 3: Gunner henderson and he just looked at me like this and,
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  Speaker 3: said he's gonna be a. Problem and, boy has he
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  Speaker 3: been a problem For american ly all. Pitchers and to
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  Speaker 3: get that ball and put, them you, know on the
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  Speaker 3: board like that was just. Amazing and, yes he's so.
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  Speaker 3: Athletic he was a great high school basketball player that
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  Speaker 3: he can play shortstop and third. Base he can play
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  Speaker 3: pretty much wherever you put. Him but he's twenty. Four
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  Speaker 3: and then then There's Roman. Anthony this spring, Again Alex
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  Speaker 3: cora looked at me and, said if you lined up
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  Speaker 3: twenty really great prospects right in front of, you you
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  Speaker 3: don't even have to see them work, out you would
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  Speaker 3: pick Out Roman anthony and, said that's the best of the,
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  Speaker 3: group just by the way he, looks the presence that he.
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  Speaker 3: Has this is what baseball people can. See and that's
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  Speaker 3: how Good Roman anthony. Is and Then Junior cambinaro a
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  Speaker 3: lot of three years, AGO i did a playoff game
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  Speaker 3: from the booth with The Blue jays and The. Rangers i'm,
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  Speaker 3: sorry The rays and The rangers and cambin AROW i
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  Speaker 3: went To toronto the weekend before to make SURE i
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  Speaker 3: got a good look at The rays before a playoff.
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  Speaker 3: Game cambinaro put on such a performance of prodigious power
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  Speaker 3: in batting practice at The Rogers. Center he got a standing.
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  Speaker 3: OVATION i don't Think i've ever seen a visiting player
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  Speaker 3: in batting practice get a standing. Ovation that's how big
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  Speaker 3: his power was three years. Ago now he's had a
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  Speaker 3: forty five homer season and he's going to go back
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  Speaker 3: to that this year because that kid is, really really.
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  Speaker 1: Good future of this sport is, bright tim with these
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  Speaker 1: great young stars coming. Up, okay another semi final. Tonight
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  Speaker 1: It's venezuela versus The Cinderella team In Team italy eight
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  Speaker 1: Pm eastern ON fs. One Francisco sevelli managing against his
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  Speaker 1: native country Of. Venezuela this has just been such an unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Story what are you looking forward to the most in this?
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  Speaker 3: Game, well you can't take your eyes off The italian.
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  Speaker 3: Team and this Is, look this is why baseball is
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  Speaker 3: so so, great with all due respect to, basketball WHICH
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  Speaker 3: i absolutely. Adore, also there are No cinderella teams that
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  Speaker 3: go in and beat the dream team for The United
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  Speaker 3: states With jordan And larry and magic and all. That, now,
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  Speaker 3: again this is not the dream team in, baseball but
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty darn. Good and This italian team didn't just
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  Speaker 3: beat The United, states they had him down eight to.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing only in this sport can this, happened which makes
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  Speaker 3: it so. Beautiful and Here's Bennie, pascatino who could be
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  Speaker 3: out of The american, team but he goes out and
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  Speaker 3: hits three home runs for The italian. Team it's so
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  Speaker 3: so good that baseball is offering up a story like.
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  Speaker 3: This and THEN i watched That venezuelan game the other.
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  Speaker 3: NIGHT i don't know Where i've been a. Lota how
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  Speaker 3: about the talent on that, team and we're surprised that
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  Speaker 3: they Beat. Japan japan is, great but there is no
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  Speaker 3: surprise when a team with that kind of talent beats
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  Speaker 3: another really good team in this.
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  Speaker 1: Tournament venezuela out Slugging, Japan italy race Past Puerto. Rico
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  Speaker 1: Tim if it was up to, you, though when is
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  Speaker 1: the best time of the year to play The World Baseball?
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  Speaker 1: Classic BECAUSE i Want Major League baseball players in The,
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  Speaker 1: Olympics but that's in the middle of the. Season when's
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  Speaker 1: the best time to play THE.
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  Speaker 3: Wbc, well there's no great, time but this is the best.
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  Speaker 3: Time i'm convinced of. That let's go to the end Of.
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  Speaker 3: July guys have played almost one hundred games at that,
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  Speaker 3: point some of them are on the disabled, list most
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  Speaker 3: of them are dragging in the. Heat this, way we
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  Speaker 3: get to play a lot of places indoors before the
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  Speaker 3: fatigue has taken over your. Body you're in spring, training
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  Speaker 3: and even though you're trying to get your body, READY
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  Speaker 3: i think this is the best, time if not the only,
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  Speaker 3: time to do THE. Wbc, now The olympics are a different.
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  Speaker 3: Animal we'll see how that. Goes But i'll take a
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  Speaker 3: fresh guy from the winter rather than a guy who's
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  Speaker 3: played one hundred games at a incredibly high, level and then,
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  Speaker 3: say all, right let's switch. Gears you got to go
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  Speaker 3: play for someone else now and leave your. TEAM i
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  Speaker 3: don't think that's a better idea than.
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  Speaker 1: THIS i will say this, though whenever it's, played THE
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  Speaker 1: wbc is phenomenal for the sport that you AND i.
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  Speaker 2: Love it's been so much.
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  Speaker 1: Fun it's going to be a great semi final tonight
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  Speaker 1: in the, final of, course should be a good one as.
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  Speaker 1: Well another good one is your podcast with your Son
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Tim is this a great game or what you?
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  Speaker 1: Are new to the fouls territory now, Work welcome to the.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Family your latest episode revisited an interview with ESPN's Scott Van.
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  Speaker 1: Pelt tell us a little bit more about the POT
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  Speaker 1: i love this.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's my, Son jeff AND. I he's thirty two years.
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  Speaker 3: Old he's a radio guy In, philadelphia does music. Talk
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  Speaker 3: he's not a big baseball. Guy but that's good because
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  Speaker 3: know anything other than, baseball at basketball and sitcoms from the.
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  Speaker 3: Sixties so we are a pretty good team when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to. That And, lana, sorry we've got a different
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  Speaker 3: direction instead of having hot takes every day to see
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  Speaker 3: how controversial we could. Be we just try to laugh
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  Speaker 3: and we try to learn, here and we're always trying
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  Speaker 3: to present something that nobody else has thought, about even
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  Speaker 3: if it's on even the silly side once in a.
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  Speaker 3: While SO i think it's okay to laugh at our game, Anymore,
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  Speaker 3: Alan and we don't laugh in our country very much,
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  Speaker 3: anymore and we don't even laugh as much at baseball
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  Speaker 3: as we. Should we're trying to bring that. Back just
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  Speaker 3: This, well.
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  Speaker 2: All, right we welcome you back To Inside.
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  Speaker 1: Dish of course it's typically With Ken, rosenthal but our
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  Speaker 1: great Friend Tim kirchen is a spot starting For ken
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  Speaker 1: And tim of, course among the best storytellers of our
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  Speaker 1: great game that there ever was any story or standout
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  Speaker 1: memory tim about players with birthdays? Today today Is march,
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  Speaker 1: birthday Adaimir Gerro, Junior Steven, Drew Brian, Wilson Curtis, Granderson Happy,
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  Speaker 3: Hudson you, know When Brandon league used to pitch for
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  Speaker 3: The Blue, jays he was in the same bullpen As David.
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  Speaker 3: Bush multiple times during that, Season David bush would pitch
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  Speaker 3: and relief and be followed By Brandon. League so we
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  Speaker 3: had The Bush league bullpen at The Blue jays throughout.
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  Speaker 3: There ALWAYS i always paid attention to those. Things Curtis,
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  Speaker 3: granderson of, course one of the great pros, ever really
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  Speaker 3: really good player in his. Day he's one of six
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  Speaker 3: players in history to hit ten to hit forty or
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: more homers in a season with ten or more letters
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  Speaker 3: in his last. Name SO i gave him that list
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  Speaker 3: and he thought that was like the greatest thing. Ever he,
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  Speaker 3: SAID i can't wait to go tell my grandfather THAT
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  Speaker 3: i am part of this. List because he, says my
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  Speaker 3: grandfather loved stuff like. That Stephen drew was a really
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  Speaker 3: good player in his. Day BUT i always found this.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting when his older BROTHER. J. D drew was struggling
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  Speaker 3: in the big, leagues he used to call his little,
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  Speaker 3: brother who was a collegiate player at the, time and,
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  Speaker 3: Say i'm all fouled. UP i need you to help.
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  Speaker 3: Me So Stephen drew would help his older BROTHER. J.
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  Speaker 3: D drew in order to get better at the. Game
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  Speaker 3: it should be the other way, around where the collegiate
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  Speaker 3: kid calls his major league. Brother but that's Who Stephen drew.
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  Speaker 3: Was who else is on that? List, Oh Charlie, Hudson
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  Speaker 3: oh my. Gosh So Charlie hudson pitched in the eighty
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  Speaker 3: Three World series for The phillies And i'm covering In.
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  Speaker 3: Dallas i'm covering The rangers at The Dallas Morning. News
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  Speaker 3: And Charlie hudson came back to his high school to
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  Speaker 3: speak to the high school, kids having just pitched in
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  Speaker 3: The World, series and it was like The beatles had
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  Speaker 3: shown up to his high. School this poor guy couldn't
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  Speaker 3: take five steps without being besieged by. Kids Charlie hudson
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  Speaker 3: going back To. Dallas we love.
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  Speaker 1: That, Also happy thirty first birthday To Rowdy, tulez who
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  Speaker 1: wasn't on the, list but he is thirty one, today
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  Speaker 1: so happy birthday to. HIM a lot of great baseball
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  Speaker 1: players with A march sixteenth. Birthday you talked About Vladimir Gerro.
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  Speaker 1: Junior ACTUALLY i did at the top of this list
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  Speaker 1: thinking about previous runner runners Up ken Or Tim when
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  Speaker 1: you're talking.
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  Speaker 2: About The World, series what kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Challenge do you think awaits The Blue jays this, year
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  Speaker 1: having fallen just short LAST i mean fallen like this
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  Speaker 1: much short last season to The dodgers In game, Seven.
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  Speaker 3: Right this much short in part because Of bath running
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  Speaker 3: a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Weeks, yes exactly.
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  Speaker 3: EARLY i think you could make a case The Blue
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  Speaker 3: jays are the best team in The American. League Now
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  Speaker 3: detroit is pretty. Good The, MARINERS i just saw them
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  Speaker 3: in spring. Training they're pitching is. Loaded BUT i Think
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: toronto is better than it was last, year and something
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  Speaker 3: happened to. Them they got a, taste the fans got a,
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  Speaker 3: taste and NOW i think The Blue jays are for.
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  Speaker 3: Real they've added to their rotation and back to Vlad
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  Speaker 3: Guerrero junior for a second line of this needs to
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: be said as many times as. Possible until the, postseason
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  Speaker 3: there were people out there who thought he was just
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: some heavy, set lumbering first. Baseman we saw him. Run
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: he can really run way better than people. THINK i
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: always knew he was a good first basement because he's
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: got great feet and great. Hands well we saw that
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: in the. Postseason, also so when it comes to complete
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: players in the game Of, Vladiermeer Guerrero junior is nearing
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the top of that list because of the things that
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: he can do beyond just hit a ball as hard
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: as any man on the face of the, earth he
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: does a lot more. Stuff in, Fact Brian John, schneider
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the manager, there went to Vlag guerrero last year and,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Said i've got three names here and three running. Speeds Manny,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Machado Aaron, judge and you who do you think is
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  Speaker 3: the fastest? There And laddie, said, well it's not, me
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: And John schneider, said yes it. Is you run better
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Than Manny, machado and you run better Than Aaron. Judge
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  Speaker 3: so it's a good lesson for all of. Us do
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: not always pay attention to what the person looks. Like
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: just watch him play and watch him, move and not
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: many players move better Than Vla, guerrero certainly in the last.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Year and he and the rest of that club are
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: really really.
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  Speaker 1: Good, yeah and you talked about the clubhouse chemistry and
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  Speaker 1: an article FOR espn back In october of twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: five and they're looking to get back to The World
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  Speaker 1: series in two thousand and twenty. Six all, right let's
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  Speaker 1: Gambler, Well, tim hopefully you like, barbecue because you're about
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  Speaker 1: to get. Grilled the first question is in regards to
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  Speaker 1: being the commissioner for a, day if you were in
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  Speaker 1: Mister manfred's position for a, day what would you.
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  Speaker 3: CHANGE i would get rid of the Ghost. Runner, Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: Elana i'm almost seventy years. Old when we were, kids
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  Speaker 3: we used to use the Ghost runner on when we
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: would play five on, five six on six pickup because
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: we didn't have enough players right, fields closed pitcher's, hand
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  Speaker 3: and a ghost runner on the. Basis, look the pitch
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: clock has taken care of all the dead. Time can
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: we please play until somebody actually wins a game without
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: putting a runner on second? Base i'm. Sorry some of
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  Speaker 3: the greatest Games i've ever seen have been eighteen inning,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: games including four of them in the. Postseason there have
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: been five eighteen inning games in the. Postseason i've seen
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  Speaker 3: four of, them and those games don't happen in the
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: regular season anymore because we put a guy at Second
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: it is, unnecessary and that would be the first THING
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: i would change two.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Of those with The dodgers being, involved and both of
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  Speaker 1: longer allowed.
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  Speaker 3: Right and the first Two Tim hudson started the first
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  Speaker 3: two eighteen inning. Game what are the chances of? That
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  Speaker 3: only in? Baseball can that?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Happen only in?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Baseball the next, question your favorite and least favorite ballpark
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to cover a game?
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: In Well fenway is still my favorite because it opened
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: in nineteen, twelve the week that The titanic sank my,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Father god blessed him in one of the great Baseball
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: he was a good player and a great baseball. Man
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: gave his three boys a really good feel for the
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  Speaker 3: game and taught us how to play the. Game that's
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  Speaker 3: where he grew up watching. Games so that's WHERE I
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  Speaker 3: you know that the first GAME i can remember going
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  Speaker 3: to who was in the early, Sixties Felix mantia hit
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: a home run At Fenway. Park those are the things
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: that you don't forget when you're a dinky little. Kid
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  Speaker 3: So i'm always going back To fenway because of its,
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  Speaker 3: age its, tradition and its. History least favorite. LOOK i
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: love the trop because the trop never gets rained out
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: and everything. Else But i'm, sorry we just can't have
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  Speaker 3: a pop up hitting the. Roof it's just as too
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  Speaker 3: much and we need to do something about. That it's
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: not LIKE i dislike the. PLACE i love going To,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: florida But i'm not a big roof, guy especially when
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: a ball can hit.
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  Speaker 1: IT i had the opportunity In august of last season
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  Speaker 1: to be the color analyst for The nessen broadcast At
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: fenway and to sit in that booth with something incredibly,
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  Speaker 1: Special SO i agree with you On fenway a very special.
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  Speaker 1: Place all, right last question for, You, tim most improved
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  Speaker 1: team heading into twenty and twenty, Six.
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  Speaker 3: That is a great. Question i'm gonna say that The
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: orioles are going to be the most improved team. NOW
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: i say it because they were so bad last year
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: THAT i fully expect them to get significantly better this.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Year and that doesn't mean they're gonna win The east
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Because toronto's, Better boston's, better And New york is. Better
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: but this thought that The orioles fell and they're not
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: going to get up this year of not buying. It
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: shane bos is gonna help, them you. Know Trevor rodgers
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: really gave them something at the top of that. Rotation
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: they've added With Taylor, War they've added With Pete. Alonso
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: they're going to score a lot more, runs And Gunner
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: henderson's going to be great. Now they just got to
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: get at the retchman back to where he should be
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: as an elite catcher in the Big. League So i'm
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: gonna say they're gonna take a really big jump in
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: wins because last year it just didn't make any sense
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to me or anybody.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Else Matt jackson holiday taking a step forward in his
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: development will help The orioles as. Well Tim, kirchin we
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