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Episode #56: Modern Medicine: Born out of Lies & Fear that STILL Affect You Today · Beyond Labels Premium

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SPEAKER_01: Why did Carnegie and Rockefeller want control?
0:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean, was control of the medical system an ancillary result of their of their well-intentioned philanthropy, or were they actually conniving to get control?
0:18
SPEAKER_00: So let's say Rockefeller, for example.
0:21
SPEAKER_00: Rockefeller obviously was an oil mogul.
0:24
SPEAKER_00: And right around the beginning of the 1900s, people had begun to identify vitamins and you know, different vitamins in the body, and they began to try to synthesize them in order to give people vitamins so that they can cure diseases like rickets and pallagra, for instance.
0:44
SPEAKER_00: And so Rockefeller saw this as an opportunity to do something with the oil that he monopolized.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: So they figured out that they can use oil and make these chemical compounds, make these pharmaceutical drugs from the oil.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: So today we're going to um we're going to dig a little bit and this will be this will be primarily um Cena's uh uh gig uh to push us into an understanding of the modern medical the the birth of the modern medicine.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, when you go to the doctor and you hear the doctor begin speaking, everybody speaks from their perceptions, their experiences, their knowledge base, their paradigm, their worldview.
1:51
SPEAKER_01: Every single one of us.
1:53
SPEAKER_01: And and isn't it one of the you know, one of the critical elements in life to uh acquaint ourselves with things that push us to question uh some of the, you know, some of the perceptions that we have.
2:07
SPEAKER_01: And so it's important as we have conversations with people and discussions with people, uh including you know a doctor, to understand that that none of us came to our thoughts in a vacuum, that they they developed you know over time with a lot of uh foundational assumptions and themes and and um uh you know discussions, backgrounds.
2:31
SPEAKER_01: So Cena's gonna take us in a little bit of a um a historical move here through the birth of what we call today modern medicine and and what's driving the thought process and the databases and the analysis behind that modern medical idea.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: Great.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: All right, thanks, Joel.
2:54
SPEAKER_00: So I'm really excited about this episode because as you know, um I don't take any prescription medications.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, I use alternative medicines.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: And when I say that to most people, they look at me almost like I'm crazy.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, why would you take that stuff?
3:10
SPEAKER_00: Like, that doesn't even work.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: We we have modern medicine because alternative medicine doesn't work, right?
3:17
SPEAKER_00: So um so I'm very excited to share about um the lies, the deception, and the manipulation that occurred in order to birth this modern medical system.
3:29
SPEAKER_00: All right.
3:30
SPEAKER_00: So let's just jump right in.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: We already talked about the birth of the FDA, which was in 1906.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: Around that same time, this was in 1910, we handed control over of our medical schools and our healthcare system to the government, big pharma, and the American Medical Association.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: And if you recall, in the episode on the birth of the FDA, I said, remember the American Medical Association, the AMA, because it also played a big role in the development of our modern medical system.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: So this um this ushered in what I call this era of enslavement.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: And it was ushered in by the Flexner Report.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and so look for similarities when I tell you the history of our medical system.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: Look for similarities with the history that we talked about with the birth of the FDA.
4:28
SPEAKER_01: So we're already go ahead.
4:30
SPEAKER_01: Just to make sure everybody's with us here on this, just realize that prior to 1910, there there were, it wasn't just uh a free-for-all out here, there were medical schools.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: People went to uh private medical schools, and there were numerous um you know medical educational gurus, uh, some of whom had had success treating different things.
4:54
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes, you know, the pinnacle of medical success was um that you that you started a school, right, to teach methodology that you know, we've been successful at treating this.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: So there was there was a lot of so so it was truly a free market um uh what a medical meritocracy, could we say?
5:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh that that that generally, generally speaking, and you correct me if I'm wrong, generally speaking, people who had success ended up teaching or starting these medical schools that were small to teach protocols and methodology that they were showing in their practices uh was being successful.
5:37
SPEAKER_01: That was that was that was ongoing.
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SPEAKER_01: That's where the guy that shows up in the Western movie, you know, uh on the in the little, you know, the little uh uh buggy and takes his little black case out and goes into visit Laura Engels Wilder on the on the sick bed, you know, those those guys didn't just suddenly wake up one day and say, I'm gonna be a doctor.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: No, they actually had credentials from you know medical schools that were all private, privately run and market driven.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: That's exactly right.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: They were not part of the universities that like they are today.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, and we'll get into that, but obviously there's bias there.
6:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, there's conflicts of interest when it now that they're part of universities, and then they get grants from big pharma.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: So there's all these conflicts of interests now that did not exist before our modern medical system was established.
6:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, and like Joel said, so before we ended up having modern medicine, the type of medicine that was practiced and promoted in the United States was what we now call alternative medicine or ancient medicine.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, there were um herbalists, there were naturopaths, homeopathic practitioners, chiropractors, uh all types of um practitioners that use like God's medicine, as I call it.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, and in fact, today, 80% of people worldwide still use this traditional or ancient medicine.
7:03
SPEAKER_00: We don't in America, of course, we predominantly rely on pharmaceuticals.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: So why is that?
7:10
SPEAKER_00: Why did in America God's medicine get replaced with pharmaceuticals?
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SPEAKER_00: And this is where it comes into play that I say when I ask people that, most of them tell me the natural medicine doesn't work for our modern diseases.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: We needed something stronger.
7:24
SPEAKER_00: But that couldn't be further from the truth.
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SPEAKER_00: There are top scientific journals published uh publishing peer-reviewed articles promoting the power of natural plants to heal disease.
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SPEAKER_00: In fact, there's over 100,000 studies published in the scientific journals proving that God's medicine actually works.
7:46
SPEAKER_00: In addition, more than 80% of pharmaceuticals are actually developed from plants.
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SPEAKER_00: So you can't tell me that natural medicine doesn't work because pharmaceutical drugs are largely created by scientists who identify plants that are documented in the literature to heal disease.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: Then the scientists isolate the compound from that plant that they think is responsible for curing people, and then they synthetically reproduce that plant compound in a lab because you can patent it, right?
8:17
SPEAKER_00: There's no money in natural plants.
8:19
SPEAKER_00: You can't patent them, but you can patent a synthetic compound that's identical to a plant compound and you can make money out of it.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so just quickly before we get into how this came about, just so everyone's kind of on the same page, we can look for proof of this in our current um society with COVID, where natural remedies were demonized by the government, by the pharmaceutical industry, healthcare promoters, uh sorry, healthcare practitioners who promoted these natural remedies like vitamin C and vitamin D.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: They were often banned from social media.
8:56
SPEAKER_00: They were trying to silence them for trying to help their fellow Americans.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: Now the FDA is trying to ban Nacetylcysteine or NAC.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: Why?
9:07
SPEAKER_00: Because NAC actually works to fight COVID, right?
9:10
SPEAKER_00: So this is happening in our modern day um system where we are still demonizing natural remedies, even though these natural remedies are the templates for the compounds that they synthesize to put in pharmaceuticals.
9:25
SPEAKER_00: All right.
9:26
SPEAKER_00: So let's get into why this came about, and then we can give it, go into specific examples of the corruption.
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SPEAKER_00: So around 1910 was when we handed over the control of our medical schools and our healthcare system, and it was largely the result of the Flexner Report.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so one document changed the entire medical establishment.
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SPEAKER_00: We give credit to Abraham Flexner for writing it.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: He was not a medical doctor, he was a politician and an administrator.
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SPEAKER_00: This report was funded by Andrew Carnegie and John Rockefeller, right?
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SPEAKER_00: As most of us know by now, these two men were among the wealthiest people in the world at that time.
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SPEAKER_00: They worked together through their foundations to gain control over the medical system.
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SPEAKER_00: And they did it largely through this Flexner report.
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SPEAKER_00: In fact, this one document has such a profound effect on our medical system even today that it's been called the most important event in the history of American medical education.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: So what did it actually see now?
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SPEAKER_01: Why why why did Carnegie and Rockefeller want control?
10:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, was control of the medical system an ancillary result of their of their well-intentioned philanthropy, or were they actually conniving to get control?
10:57
SPEAKER_00: So uh let's say Rockefeller, for example.
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SPEAKER_00: Rockefeller obviously was an oil mogul.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: And right around the uh beginning of the uh 1900s, people had begun to identify vitamins and you know, different vitamins in the body, and they began to try to synthesize them in order to give people vitamins so that they can cure diseases like rickets and pallagra, for instance.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: And so Rockefeller saw this as an opportunity to do something with the oil that he monopolized.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: So they figured out that they can use oil and make these chemical compounds, make these pharmaceutical drugs from the oil.
11:44
SPEAKER_00: And so that's what they did.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: He wanted, in order to do that, he had to squash the competition.
11:50
SPEAKER_00: And so, as we've already mentioned, there were medical schools and um medical practitioners that were practicing with God's medicine, these herbal remedies, these you know, homeopathic medicines, for instance.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: And they were not going to use pharmaceuticals, obviously.
12:09
SPEAKER_00: Those are two different paths.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: So one thing that Rockefeller needed to do was to squash the competition.
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SPEAKER_00: In other words, he tried to create a monopoly.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: And the way you could do that was by changing the medical system.
12:23
SPEAKER_00: You changed what was taught in the medical schools.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: So so back then, in the medical schools, you were taught, um, for instance, that diet plays a big role in disease prevention and reversal.
12:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh compare that to today, that most um medical schools don't even teach a nutrition course.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: Or if the doctors are going to get um any any information on nutrition, it's usually around an hour of nutrition.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: So completely change that.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: Now our model is oh, um, a pill for every ill, right?
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SPEAKER_00: You diet doesn't matter, your genes are your destiny.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, if you have this gene for cancer, that's just your bad luck.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, there's nothing we can do about it but manage your symptoms with these pharmaceutical drugs, okay?
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SPEAKER_00: Very different model.
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SPEAKER_00: And in order to be able to sell these pharmaceutical drugs, they needed to change the entire model of what was taught in medical schools and then what could be practiced in the hospitals and you know, private practices.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: So so I can't help but but uh delve into your your chemist uh background and don't don't don't lose me here, Cena.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: But so so they synthesize vitamins out of oil.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it does it.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I'm trying to make the connection between oil and and um and taking uh taking a is it vitamin or pharmaceutical?
14:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm not drinking, I'm not taking gas, am I?
14:03
SPEAKER_01: I mean, what what is this?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so quite a lot of products are still made from petrochemicals.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: So um, so and this is you know, this is one reason why if I'm ever gonna take a supplement, I try to take the like, so for instance, Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: Cowan, our friend, Thomas Cowan, he now sells like a supplement, but instead of it being these synthetic um mega doses of vitamins, he um he basically takes vegetables and fruits that have been grown organically or regeneratively, and you take the whole fruit and you dehydrate that and grind that up, or the whole vegetable dehydrate it and grind it up.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: And so you're you're taking a powdered form, like a concentrated form of these foods to get the nutrients, all right.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, but like if you look at most um pharmaceuticals, for instance, they're still made from petrochemicals.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: So that's been carried on till today.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, this is one reason why, uh, just one reason why there's so many side effects of taking pharmaceuticals, right?
15:08
SPEAKER_00: The another obvious reason is because you've isolated a compound from a plant and given it in a megadose, right?
15:16
SPEAKER_00: And that's not how God designed his medicine to be.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: It's designed in this beautiful network of other nutrients, um, and they all interact with each other.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so just to give you some some examples, and then we'll then we'll get further into the history of it, but just to give you some examples of what this medicine, uh, this new modern medicine has given us, and this we call it actually Rockefeller Medicine.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what we have today, is Rockefeller Medicine because it's pharmaceutical based.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: It's centered around pharmaceuticals, and it's because you know he wanted to do something with the oil and make money off of it.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: So um I'll give you a couple of statistics.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: There's a new study out of Harvard Data Science.
16:02
SPEAKER_00: It concluded that there have been some prescription drugs that actually increase suicide attempts, including Xanax, which is ironic because it's an anti-anxiety drug, but apparently it increases um, you know, suicide attempts.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, prednisone, which is corticosteroid, and Valium would do the same.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh, there is a study in neurology that concluded that um anticholinergic drugs, those are the drugs prescribed for like seasonal allergies, depression, urinary incontinence.
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SPEAKER_00: They actually can increase the risk of Alzheimer's and dementia.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, as you know, ibuprofen, we know it can cause gastric bleeding, but also increases your risk of heart failure.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: Steroids can lead to osteoporosis.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, this is one of my favorites.
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SPEAKER_00: So blood pressure lowering drugs can lead to nutrient deficiencies that cause diseases.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: So get this.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, CoQ10 is one that that can be um you can become deficient in CoQ10 from taking blood pressure lowering medications.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: But um CoQ10 is also known to lower your blood pressure.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: So the same, so a medication that there you have, so if you go to the doctor and you have low, if you have high blood pressure, the doctors can say, okay, well, here, go on this blood pressure lowering medication, okay, instead of actually testing your level of CoQ10.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: So now you're on this medication that lowers your level of CoQ10 even further, uh, which is gonna increase your blood pressure.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: So there's no now respect or acknowledgement of the role of nutrients, right, from the diet, for instance, in when people are when doctors are prescribing medications.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: It's this is the disease, I it has a label, and I'm gonna attach it to this drug.
17:49
SPEAKER_00: And now we're learning all these drugs can cause um secondary deficiencies and even diseases.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: There's 90 medications, 90, that have been implicated in causing drug-induced lupus, right?
18:01
SPEAKER_00: So that means um the people are taking a medication for something other than lupus, and the medication causes them to develop lupus, right?
18:11
SPEAKER_00: So you can actually develop a secondary disease from taking these drugs.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, so so those are just some of the side effects.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the system that we have now.
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SPEAKER_00: 66% of all adults in America use prescription drugs.
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SPEAKER_00: People aged 50 to 64, 75% of them are on at least one prescription drugs.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: On average, people aged 50 to 64 are taking 13 different prescription drugs.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: All right.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: So that's the system that we have now.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: What's the guy's name?
18:44
SPEAKER_01: What's his name?
18:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh spell it for us.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: Is it Flexner?
18:47
SPEAKER_00: So F-L-E-X-N-E-R, Flexner report.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: How did he how did he penetrate?
18:54
SPEAKER_01: How was this this um this coup, this medical college coup, how was it, how was it orchestrated?
19:01
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you don't just go over, you just go don't go in and you know with blazing guns and say, we're gonna change the way you teach.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: What's what's the report?
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SPEAKER_01: What was the deal?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, so okay, this report concluded that there were too many medical schools and too many doctors in America.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Why did he conclude that?
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Because it meant more competition.
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SPEAKER_00: It was more competition for Rockefeller and the American Medical Association.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: More competition drove down the cost of medical care.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: So they made less money.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, remember how I said we credit Abraham Flexner for writing the Flexner report?
19:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's been widely accepted that Flexner's report, it was actually virtually written in advance by high officials of the American Medical Association.
19:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: So they wrote it, and he was kind of like the front man for it, you know, who like basically just put it all down and made it flow and look pretty.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: So the so the consequence of that is the Flexner report was written to create a medical monopoly.
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SPEAKER_00: And it wanted to do that by reducing the number of medical schools and practitioners.
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SPEAKER_00: So it worked.
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SPEAKER_00: The medical schools in the US were cut in half in less than 15 years.
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SPEAKER_00: It went from about 160 to about 80.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: But here's the key which medical schools were cut?
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SPEAKER_00: So, Flexner, in this report, um, he demonized natural practitioners.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: He called them nonconformists.
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SPEAKER_00: He attacked their methods, calling them quackery and charlatanism.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: And he said that any of these people who are practicing these natural remedies were a disgrace to the state.
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SPEAKER_00: So his report led to shutting down most of the colleges and the programs that practice this alternative medicine.
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SPEAKER_00: Nearly 80%, 80% of all the programs in homeopathy, naturopathy, physical therapy, osteopathy, and chiropractic were all shut down.
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SPEAKER_00: This was a political crackdown on alternative and non-conventional forms of research and education in medicine.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and almost half of the medical colleges and doctors at the time in America were practicing holistic medicine.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: So this was a sweeping reform of the American medical system.
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SPEAKER_00: It was, Joel, to be honest, it was a witch hunt.
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SPEAKER_00: The natural practitioners were publicly demonized, publicly discredited.
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SPEAKER_00: And sometimes they were actually thrown in jail just for using these natural remedies.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: And why?
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SPEAKER_00: Because they were dangerous to this new establishment.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: Any of these medical professionals or practitioners who were using natural healing methods, um, they were.
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SPEAKER_00: Threat to the new medical norm because they could demonstrate that nature, right, God's medicine, can treat or prevent any illness.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: This is the same witch hunt that persists today, where during COVID, medical boards suspended doctors' licenses for going against the medical establishment lies, right?
22:21
SPEAKER_00: If they dared to promote, oh, you can use supplements, you can use diet, right, to heal yourself from COVID, their licenses were suspended.
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SPEAKER_00: And by the way, those medical boards that have the power to suspend doctors' licenses, they arose from the Flexner report.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: And those boards, those boards are created by the American Medical Association, the AMA.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: So what happened was Rockefeller got all these natural alternative institutions shut down by using his control over media, just like we saw with the birth of the FDA, they used media to instill fear in the public, right?
23:06
SPEAKER_00: He riled people up by exaggerating and sometimes stating falsehoods about these alternative colleges and practices.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and it generated public outcry.
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SPEAKER_00: That public outcry led to Congress declaring that the AMA would be the only body with the right to grant medical school licenses in the U.S.
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SPEAKER_00: So Rockefeller used the AMA to compel the government to destroy the natural competition through regulating medical schools.
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SPEAKER_00: In the end, the what the decision was was that only medical schools with a drug-based curriculum would be allowed to be accredited by the AMA.
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SPEAKER_00: That was the death of natural medicine and the birth of big pharma and what we call Rockefeller medicine.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because without that, we'd still the we'd still be using herbs and concoctions and homeopathy and other uh all sorts.
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SPEAKER_01: Who knows if we hadn't had that, what innovative, innovative things we would have discovered in that century had had that had that emphasis toward uh toward pharmaceuticals been instead directed toward emphasis toward harmonic living, toward uh you know tuning your body to you know to the rhythms of your um you know surroundings, whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's there's there's all sorts of um of options that could have developed.
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SPEAKER_01: But when a when a culture decides to throw all of its uh all of its creative research and economic equity in a certain direction by by fiat, um, then it automatically eliminates that kind of investment in in an alternative idea.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: And not only that, not only do they invest in that other direction, but they are trying to rid the option of steal your option of using alternative medicine.
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SPEAKER_00: For example, this new modern medical system we have, um, the medical doctors are largely beholden to the medical boards.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: I gave the example with COVID and people supporting um, you know, supplements.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Here's another example.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: In some states, it's actually illegal, illegal for a medical doctor to treat cancer with any modality other than chemotherapy, surgery, or radiation.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: It's actually actually a criminal felony for a medical practitioner to treat cancer with anything but those three modalities.
25:50
SPEAKER_00: So we have a friend, Dr.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: Cowan, who suggested to one of his patients when he was practicing in California, suggested to one of his patients that they change their diet, right?
26:04
SPEAKER_00: He wasn't saying don't use these other treatments.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: He was simply saying diet plays a role.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: Here's some suggestions of how you can improve your diet, right?
26:11
SPEAKER_00: Eat more of the way that God intended us to eat, in other words, and they came after him.
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SPEAKER_00: He was reported and they came after him, um, came after his license.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: So, so the medical doctors themselves are now compliant in this system where they don't even have the freedom to practice medicine, even maybe the way that they think that God's compelling them to practice it.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's one example.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: If you ever wonder how um, like we have all these specialists now, right?
26:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, like when I was sick, I went into the doctor's offices for over 20 years.
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SPEAKER_00: I was trying to get help from the Western Medical System.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: And what did they do?
26:47
SPEAKER_00: I went to my primary care doctor, they didn't have the answer.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: So then they're like, oh, I'm gonna send you over to a rheumatologist.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: Went to the rheumatologist, they couldn't figure it out.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm gonna go send you to an endocrinologist.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: So you get bounced from one to the next.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: They spend like five minutes with you, right?
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Write down a code to diagnose you as with a label, send you to somebody else because they can't figure it out.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: That's the modern system.
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SPEAKER_00: The system we used to have was a holistic patient-centered approach where they were actually trying to find the root cause of the disease.
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SPEAKER_00: The one you would have this practitioner that could connect all the dots.
27:21
SPEAKER_00: They looked at you as one whole person, not as pieces of a machine, which is actually how we're looked at today.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: Another result of this, as we know, is the pharmaceutical-based um our our our medical system is centered around pharmaceuticals.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, what's the third leading cause of death in America?
27:41
SPEAKER_00: Pharmaceuticals.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Pharmaceuticals.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: And half, half, roughly half of those were like overdosed, the person didn't take it properly.
27:48
SPEAKER_00: But Joel, half of those, the person took it as prescribed.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: And it's the third leading cause of death, not to mention the side effects, the secondary diseases that I mentioned.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, chemotherapy, right?
28:00
SPEAKER_00: As we mentioned, that's the primary treatment now.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: You have to abide by it.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: What's the success rate of chemotherapy?
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Right?
28:07
SPEAKER_00: There was a study done looking at um 22 types of cancer or in over 160,000 patients.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: They looked at what effect did chemotherapy have on helping the people live for five more years.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: They said that it was had no effect on most cancers.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: Some cancers, it had a 2% effect, right?
28:28
SPEAKER_00: So that's the best that we can do in this sick in this system.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: We're sicker than ever before.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: I mentioned all the people on pharmaceuticals.
28:35
SPEAKER_00: Do you know one in six Americans is now taking psychiatric drugs?
28:39
SPEAKER_00: One in six.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: 60% of adults have a chronic disease.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: It's estimated one in two men and one in three women are going to get cancer, right?
28:47
SPEAKER_00: And the and the biggest problem for me is this system has indoctrinated us to be afraid.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: You can never cure a disease, right?
28:55
SPEAKER_00: That's what the message is.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: You can't cure it.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: You if you get a disease label, it's a death sentence.
29:01
SPEAKER_00: You will die from it.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: Not only that, but to even fear, I'm gonna go deep here, Cena, to even fear the notion that we could have a medical system that didn't have any licenses.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I mean, when when you when you say, well, uh, you know, I I've written routinely, well, I I think if I want to have a doctor, uh, I mean, if if I want to go to somebody that that prescribes whatever, I should have the freedom to do that.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: Uh, people just go go nuts over, oh no, you know, um, we we'd have we then then they then they think back of that huckster wagon in the old western, right?
29:38
SPEAKER_01: With the snake oil and get uh you know Aunt Matilda's remedy, right?
29:42
SPEAKER_01: And they think it's just it's just free-for-all.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: But but but you have to understand that a free-for-all, a free-for-all does tend to shake out winners.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: It it it that's right as as whatever, as disturbing and disruptive as a free-for-all might be, it does actually uh allow for a meritorious uh a meritorious winner rather than a political winner or a winner of subterfuge or sabotage or those kinds of things.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: And and that's what we're seeing is we're seeing we're seeing winners that aren't meritorious winners.
30:17
SPEAKER_01: They they are winners by right of of having some sort of a you know a political in or an economic in or uh you know uh the knowing the right people.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: And and that's not that's not a meritocracy.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's serfdom.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: And so let me give just two quick examples of how this still affects us profoundly today.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this wasn't like, oh, this was back in 1910 and now it's better and we're more free.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: No, no, we're less free now.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: Here's one example the the way the American Medical Association, the AMA, works is that it could it restricts the number of approved medical schools, it restricts the number of applicants to those schools, and it limits the supply of physicians.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: So when we talk about, oh, we have a doctor shortage, okay.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: Look back to the AMA.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: They effectively limit the supply of physicians.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: What does this do?
31:13
SPEAKER_00: It increases the wages of the physicians, it increases the pocketbook of the AMA, and it raises the overall cost of medical care.
31:23
SPEAKER_00: So this is not a free market, like you're saying.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: This is a tightly regulated, controlled, manipulated um system.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: I won't even call it a market.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: Now, if you think the Rockefeller, you know, Rockefeller is dead, obviously.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: His institute, his um foundation is still having a huge impact on us today.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: Here's something, the latest news from them.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: The latest endeavor by the Rockefeller Foundation is a$7.2 million investment in COVID vaccines.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, they started this initiative that they're gonna give$7.5 million in grant money, quote, toward the cost of launching a research consortium to drive acceptance and uptake of COVID-19 vaccination efforts and provide insights to counter health myths and disinformation.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: So that organization is still alive and well.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, they promote, you know, chemotherapy, radiation, all these treatments you're talking about, obviously pharmaceuticals, vaccines, and now they're giving grant money to try to censor people like you and me for spreading misinformation.
32:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's uh it's uh it's talk about collusion.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: That that's uh that's real collusion, isn't it?
32:43
SPEAKER_01: And so it yeah, it's just fascinating to see uh how when you go back into the into the history, you know, um you you can question the intentions, you can say, well, that was sincere, they they meant well, they thought they were doing well.
32:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm even willing to grant that.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm even I'm even willing willing to grant that that Rockefeller, when he in when he infiltrated the colleges, even had good intentions, that he really did think that that the the snake oil people and all that, you know, were were bad for our country.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: Let's let's give him that.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: But but the answer is not is not regulatory.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: The answer is okay, use your clout, use your money to advance your agenda, that's fine, but leave the other side alone.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: All I want to do is be left alone to practice liberty and choice, to to to have a voluntary way to practice choice.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: And as soon as you get, as soon as you get the licensing and the regulatory involvement uh in it, then you're you're no longer competing, um competing meritoriously, you're you're competing politically and administratively.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: And that's not that's not a fair, it's not a fair competition.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's not at all.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: Um and this was just like a highlight, too, of the corruption.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: But I want to point out, look at the pattern, right?
34:04
SPEAKER_00: From the in from the birth of the modern medical system, Rockefeller Medicine, compared to the birth of the FDA.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: They follow the same pattern, okay?
34:14
SPEAKER_00: They have these um a handful of individuals that have some idea that they want to push forward, right?
34:22
SPEAKER_00: They drum up fear amongst the American population so that we will comply.
34:27
SPEAKER_00: Because when you're afraid, right, you're not even thinking logically.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: You're like, help me, help me, you know, save me.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: So they drum up this fear, and then they get Congress to act, right?
34:38
SPEAKER_00: Because Congress has wants to make their constituents happy.
34:42
SPEAKER_00: So they force Congress to act and the president to sign these things.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: And then and you also have these institutions outside that we supposedly trust, like the American Medical Association, American Heart Association.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: We got to do a podcast on them.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, and they feed into it, they feed into this corruption.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: So you have like the same pattern over and over that's developing all of these major institutions and regulatory bodies that we are now slaves to, and we don't even realize it how much we are enslaved to them.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: But they were all birthed on manipulation and fear and lies and deceiving us.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: And so that's what that's where I think you and I could come in here is let's show them how these things were birthed and then you know, tease it out for them so we remove the fear, right?
35:33
SPEAKER_00: That like you said, you do not have to have a you know government approved approved or AMA approved medical uh practitioner you're gonna go to.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: And because what does that even stand for?
35:44
SPEAKER_00: Right?
35:45
SPEAKER_01: But you but you know as well as I do, Cena, if you walk into any room in the US and you and you say we shouldn't have licensed, we we shouldn't have uh uh AMA or government-sanctioned uh medical practitioners, you you you would be drummed out as as what do you want to do?
36:04
SPEAKER_01: You you want everybody to die?
36:06
SPEAKER_01: I mean, literally, everybody to die.
36:08
SPEAKER_01: And and so so that's why this history, this this walkthrough history is so valuable because it ties, it ties choice and freedom to the true um uh innovation and the ability to have competition, to have a meritorious system.
36:26
SPEAKER_01: That that that's how it ties.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
36:29
SPEAKER_00: And to wrap that up, and so you're exactly right.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna change the system, right?
36:34
SPEAKER_00: And so that's not where I want to go with this.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, you and I both know we're not gonna change the system.
36:40
SPEAKER_00: So, what I want to do is help people get step out of that system, just like we're helping people claim reclaim their freedom by stepping out of the food supply.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: We can help you step out of the medical system in your own space and time when you are ready.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: And so, one thing that we're gonna do is um we're gonna have more episodes on how to do that.
37:01
SPEAKER_00: And the first episode is gonna be a bonus video.
37:04
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be with Amy Fuel, our friend from Um Homesteaders of America.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, she and I talked, and we have this um beginning episode on how to start using some herbals um in your daily life.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna launch that as our first bonus um episode here.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: And if people like it, if people listening, if you want to know more about how you can kind of free yourself, step, step outside of this modern medicine box that we're in, let us know, email us, and we'll do more episodes um to help you um basically regain that freedom that we've all lost.
37:41
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37:45
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38:01
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38:08
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38:28
SPEAKER_01: Let's stand for a lot of alternatives in the system.
38:33
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