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Catfished By Your Best Friend, JLo and Matt Damon with Brittany Brave · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
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  Speaker 2: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 3: Where?
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  Speaker 1: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 4: Lift?
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  Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 1: No. Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else. Heather
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  Speaker 1: MacDonald has got.
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  Speaker 3: The Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Remember you guys, I
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  Speaker 1: have lots of dates this fall and into now 2025.
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  Speaker 1: It's all at heathermcdonald.net. The next one up, it'll be
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  Speaker 1: the Venetian for standup and a full Juicy Scoop experience
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  Speaker 1: with Brandy and Julie. And that is on Saturday, September
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  Speaker 1: 21st at the Venetian. So that's the next show up.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you get it, but I'm going everywhere, including
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  Speaker 1: the Irvine Improv in November. And that one always sells
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  Speaker 1: out five shows that weekend of November 8th, 9th and 10th.
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  Speaker 1: So check it out. OK, let me get into my
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  Speaker 1: super fun weekend. I went to a fabulous weekend for
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  Speaker 1: my friend Laurie Smith's daughter, Hannah Smith. And it was
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  Speaker 1: beyond fabulous. It was in Santa Barbara because we I
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  Speaker 1: just want to tell you how disgustingly hot it was
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  Speaker 1: in L.A. And I rarely complain about LA weather because
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  Speaker 1: it is the one fabulous thing and what you deal
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  Speaker 1: with with paying the money that we pay and everything
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  Speaker 1: else in LA is that the weather's nice. But it
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  Speaker 1: is really gross and really hot and gross. So we
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  Speaker 1: got to go to Santa Barbara, which was absolutely lovely,
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  Speaker 1: like 30 degrees cooler and nothing gets me more excited
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  Speaker 1: than when it's really hot like that. And then you
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  Speaker 1: get in your car and you see the temperature go
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  Speaker 1: down and down and down as you drive through California. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it was fabulous. They did it at this beautiful estate,
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  Speaker 1: got married over the ocean. Then we walked through the
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  Speaker 1: estate to the backyard. It was so fun. There were
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  Speaker 1: a couple of cool things that they did that I
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  Speaker 1: really want to just talk about for wedding people. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is at a very expensive wedding, so I understand
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  Speaker 1: not everyone can do this, but One thing is they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have the recap day after brunch thing that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people do. I did it. And it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of great, you know, because it's like you partied hard.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to get all cute. And we already
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  Speaker 1: said goodbye. We already had our fun. If you got
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  Speaker 1: too drunk, maybe you don't want to show up at
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  Speaker 1: that brunch and have someone be like, oh, you had
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  Speaker 1: a good time. And you're like, I don't even fucking remember. Like,
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  Speaker 1: was there a cake? Like, who needs that? But what
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  Speaker 1: they did that was so great is they had kind
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  Speaker 1: of a pre-cocktail party situation for anybody that was invited
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  Speaker 1: to the wedding to come after their rehearsal dinner and rehearsing.
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  Speaker 1: And then they had their dinner, everyone who was in
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  Speaker 1: the wedding. And then everybody else came and they had
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  Speaker 1: pizza and open bar and everyone got to meet each other.
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  Speaker 1: So then when you see each other the next day,
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  Speaker 1: You've met all these people. It's not the first time.
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  Speaker 1: So it made the wedding so much more fun. And
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  Speaker 1: I just thought that was great. Also, I couldn't believe this,
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  Speaker 1: but the bride sang an original song that she wrote
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  Speaker 1: with her dad and the dad played guitar, Danny Smith.
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  Speaker 1: And I just, I couldn't believe it. It was so good.
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  Speaker 1: I told them that they have to make an original song.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they have to record it. because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it could, anybody could change like the, the words in
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  Speaker 1: between about your spouse in this wedding, in the song
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  Speaker 1: it is anyway. So it was fabulous. And then we
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  Speaker 1: stayed at the beautiful Miramar Rosewood hotel, which was just very,
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  Speaker 1: one of those places where you walk in and you
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  Speaker 1: just smell the wealth. I mean, I dress like a
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  Speaker 1: classy lady. I prepared my outfit for what it's like
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  Speaker 1: to be a rich Santa Barbara woman. Um, I loved
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  Speaker 1: every second of it. It's very, very pricey, but I
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  Speaker 1: finally made it, you guys, thanks to Juicy Scoop. So
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  Speaker 1: it was great in here. Peter and I enjoying ourselves. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I wore this dress before. I do wear things over
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  Speaker 1: and over again so that I can afford the Miramar
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  Speaker 1: and Rosewood on occasion. And I do my own hair
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  Speaker 1: and makeup. Also saves me a lot of money. Anyway, so,
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  Speaker 1: so fun.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this was Juicy. OK, J-Lo is went to the
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  Speaker 1: premiere of her movie, which was produced by Ben Affleck
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  Speaker 1: and Matt Damon's production company about a wrestler. And she
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  Speaker 1: plays the mother. She shows up in just the revenge dress.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the body's always banging, but it was this
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  Speaker 1: like mirrorball sequence dress, full side cleavage.
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  Speaker 3: Full ass cleavage.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was like, she took two pieces of paper
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  Speaker 1: and then just did like a little ribbon. So all
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  Speaker 1: the side, the tiny waist, the start of the ass,
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  Speaker 1: but then this part was covered. So it was like
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  Speaker 1: class from the front, slut from the side. Looked amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And then there is a photo that page six shared
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  Speaker 1: of her sitting down, holding Ben, Matt Damon's hat, hand,
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  Speaker 1: and having like an in-depth conversation. Ben Affleck did not
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  Speaker 1: go to this premiere. Matt Damon did. And what I
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  Speaker 1: think is so juicy about that is like, this is
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  Speaker 1: his best friend, his partner. She's known him from the
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  Speaker 1: first time they were engaged to this last one. And
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  Speaker 1: first of all, you know, Matt Damon sounds and seems
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  Speaker 1: like a peach. He's been married forever. No one has
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  Speaker 1: a bad word to say about him. And he's a
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  Speaker 1: good friend, but it just, You know, now it could
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  Speaker 1: have been that he took her hand and was like, Jennifer,
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  Speaker 1: you were so incredible in this movie. I knew that
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  Speaker 1: you would just kill it. It could have been that.
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  Speaker 1: It could have been nothing about Ben Affleck. But when
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  Speaker 1: you see something like this, it's like when you go
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  Speaker 1: to a party and you see someone that's connected to
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  Speaker 1: your ex or your ex best friend or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: you kind of have that little like moment, maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: the first time and you have the heart to heart
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, I mean, it could have been like, girl,
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  Speaker 1: I know what you've been through. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: he just got up and left one day. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to tell you. He's a complicated dude, but you,
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  Speaker 1: let's just focus on how talented you are in this movie.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're going to get an Oscar. Who knows? And
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great because I believe it's more of
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  Speaker 1: like a supporting role that she's doing in this movie and,
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  Speaker 1: but it's getting buzz. And wouldn't that be great if
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  Speaker 1: she got like the worst year of her life, uh,
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  Speaker 1: also resulted in an Oscar in the next year. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Or an Oscar nod or something. So I
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  Speaker 1: feel like she's back on track with her side tits
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  Speaker 1: and her good movie and all that. So there you go.
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: Vanderpump supposedly is filming a pilot with all new cast members.
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  Speaker 1: And this is coming from Bravo Breaking News. And this
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  Speaker 1: was an article, I think, from TMZ. And so they're
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  Speaker 1: filming at the restaurant, all different people, hoping that some
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  Speaker 1: of those people will, will be well enough to have
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  Speaker 1: their own show. Maybe they'll merge them. Maybe they'll have
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  Speaker 1: two separate, um, Vanderpump shows altogether and, you know, bring
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  Speaker 1: back the original cast doing one thing, but then really
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  Speaker 1: have a new young cast that actually works at the restaurants,
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  Speaker 1: kind of the way the show started. Thought that was interesting. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Our girl Kristen Doty, originally from Vanderpump Rules, she's dated
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  Speaker 1: James Kennedy. She dated Tom Sandoval first, then James Kennedy,
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  Speaker 1: had an indiscretion with Jax Taylor, then had a couple
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  Speaker 1: other boyfriends and close engagements. She finally, she is happy
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  Speaker 1: she got engaged to her boyfriend, who was also featured
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  Speaker 1: on the show. And he's a normie from Colorado, now
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  Speaker 1: a reality star with her. So good for her. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: Ariana Maddox's brother, who I spoke about before, Jeremy, he
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  Speaker 1: is facing a lot. Uh, his attorneys are fighting for him.
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  Speaker 1: They're fighting these felony drug charges. He and his friend were, um,
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  Speaker 1: their luggage, they were leaving Orlando international airport and they were,
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  Speaker 1: they found large amounts of marijuana in their luggage, over
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  Speaker 1: a hundred pounds of marijuana combined. Um, But he, you know,
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  Speaker 1: is fighting this charge. He's on an $ 80, 000 bond, but
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  Speaker 1: he could face anywhere between three and 30 years. So
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  Speaker 1: I guess three, maybe three is the minimum and 30
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  Speaker 1: is the maximum. I'm not sure. But the mother is
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  Speaker 1: saying good things about him. His employer is like he
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  Speaker 1: can still work here and he has a fiance. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just want to bring this up because
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  Speaker 1: it's like Ariana got some kind of like shit like
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  Speaker 1: in the talking of like, where's her brother? And she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't there for the brother's birthday or she wasn't there
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  Speaker 1: when the brother and the fiance got engaged. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You know, these are adult siblings and she's got a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on. And maybe it was just they just,
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  Speaker 1: maybe there was a bunch of stuff we didn't know
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  Speaker 1: about it. Maybe this was one of them. Maybe she
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  Speaker 1: kind of felt he was involved in stuff that she
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to sign off on and didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of. And maybe she knew about it,
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  Speaker 1: but didn't want to like tell the mother and maybe
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  Speaker 1: she tried to tell him and he did it. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know. But I mean, just sometimes when people judge that, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: why wasn't the person? Oh, just because she's become a
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  Speaker 1: big star. Now she's not hanging out with her brother.
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  Speaker 1: It's not always what you think as someone, you know,
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  Speaker 1: who shared a lot about my life and my adult
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  Speaker 1: sibling relationships, things change when you become adults. And, and
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  Speaker 1: then when one is a public figure, everyone always is
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  Speaker 1: so quick to judge that that person is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: is aren't who they used to be. So anyway, whatever happens.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to see anyone spend their
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  Speaker 1: whole life in prison or anything, but I'm just kind
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  Speaker 1: of thinking from her perspective, maybe that was a little
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  Speaker 1: more to it than just, you know, than what we
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  Speaker 1: first were seeing when other, When, you know, people were
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  Speaker 1: throwing him parties and stuff and she wasn't there and
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  Speaker 1: everyone was looking into it. Anna Delvey is on Dancing
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  Speaker 1: with the Stars. Sheena Shea is not. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people were like, how could they do this to Sheena again?
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  Speaker 1: Anna Delvey is, what? Why are you so poor? Why
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  Speaker 1: do you dress like that? You remember her, okay? And
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  Speaker 1: she was the one that, you know, was a total grifter.
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  Speaker 1: She lied about her childhood, lied about, you know, where
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  Speaker 1: she was from. And acted like she was so rich
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  Speaker 1: and stole money from investors and, you know, made her
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  Speaker 1: friend pay for this big vacation in Morocco that the
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  Speaker 1: friend thought that she was being treated to. The whole thing. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: she did time. They did the documentary about her. And
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  Speaker 1: now she's on Dancing with the Stars. But she is
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  Speaker 1: very pissed at Whoopi Goldberg because Whoopi Goldberg spoke about
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  Speaker 1: it on The View. And Whoopi said... That, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that the that ice, because she's not American, allowed her
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  Speaker 1: to travel and be part of Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 1: And Whoopi's like, you know, would they let other people
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  Speaker 1: do that? That was in this situation, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: but Anna's like responded, saying that she didn't get any
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  Speaker 1: special treatment. And she explained that she finished her time
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  Speaker 1: in prison. was under house arrest for three years and
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  Speaker 1: paid all the money back she owed the victims by
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  Speaker 1: March of 2022. So anyway, I didn't know that she
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  Speaker 1: did pay back all the money. So, you know, good
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  Speaker 1: for her, I guess. So, you know, it's Dancing with
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  Speaker 1: the Grifters this year. And of course, they love that
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  Speaker 1: she has an ankle bracelet still on. And I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to see the dance that they do about like
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  Speaker 1: her breaking out from bars or whatever. And then they're
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  Speaker 1: going to bedazzle the, you know, the ankle. I can
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  Speaker 1: see it's like dancing the cha-cha-cha at a Delvey. And
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  Speaker 1: then they'll like pan the camera just like on a bedazzled,
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  Speaker 1: like get through that tan character shoe and then just
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  Speaker 1: the bedazzled ankle bracelet. And then she'll be up and And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she looks good. Her legs look nice. She
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  Speaker 1: looks good in the dress. So there you go with that.
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  Speaker 1: Armie Hammer, when's he going to be on Dancing with
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  Speaker 1: the Stars? He could use it because he was forced
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  Speaker 1: to sell his truck. He can't afford the gas, he said.
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  Speaker 1: He did a video about it. This was about a
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  Speaker 1: week or two ago. No, it was a week ago,
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  Speaker 1: August 27th. Anyway, and, you know, since he's not working,
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  Speaker 1: since all the stuff happened with him, being into cannibalism
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  Speaker 1: and writing weird texts to multiple girls. Well, Erica Jane,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, baby, Erica Jane, she has shared that she
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  Speaker 1: was his neighbor at one point and had his number
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  Speaker 1: and was like, hey, it's so loud. Can you stop
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  Speaker 1: playing all, you know, either invite me or stop being
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  Speaker 1: so loud? Because she said two girls were fighting on
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  Speaker 1: the front lawn one time when she rolled up over him.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, I'm happy to come over and
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  Speaker 1: make you a steak. And then she said he got COVID.
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  Speaker 1: And then she found out that he would like to
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  Speaker 1: make her a steak and eat her rib afterwards. And
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  Speaker 1: so she never heard from him again. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what will it take for him to come back? What
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  Speaker 1: do you guys think? I've said from the very beginning,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think this is the end for him. I
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  Speaker 1: definitely think he'll start acting again soon because I just, um,
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  Speaker 1: I actually figured the documentary about this whole scandal actually
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  Speaker 1: made him seem less horrible than when it broke out
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  Speaker 1: on social media. And we were just getting the, reading
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  Speaker 1: the texts and all that other stuff. I think when
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  Speaker 1: we saw everybody sort of share, we were like, Hmm,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't, I don't think I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a weirdo. I wouldn't want my daughter to date him.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want Erika Jayne to date him. Erika Jayne,
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to date someone who doesn't even have
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  Speaker 1: a car. He just had to sell his car. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what she's looking for. Please. As with Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Girardi.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that man was going to be in my
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  Speaker 1: life forever. Thought I was going to hold his hand
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  Speaker 1: until he died. Well, look at me now. It's expensive
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  Speaker 1: to be me. So there you go. Big weekend for
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  Speaker 1: Travis and Taylor, they went. I don't know. There's so
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: much going on. They went to a wedding. They went
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: to the tennis thing. They had the new cocktail that
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: everyone's dying over, which is vodka, lemonade, melon balls, and chambronde,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: whatever that purple like. Anyway, everyone's drinking at the tennis.
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  Speaker 1: They were drinking and having fun. They're having a good time.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people tried to say that she was
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: in a fight with Brittany Mahoney because they weren't in
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  Speaker 1: the same suites watching the game, but it's because they
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  Speaker 1: each have their own suite. Because then they went to
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  Speaker 1: the tennis together and they were asshole buddies again. So
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: there you go. But, you know, when's this going to happen?
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  Speaker 1: They wore a lot of Gucci. Travis was wearing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Gucci. And it was this Gucci bucket hat
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  Speaker 1: and this Gucci collared shirt. And I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: hope he got it for free. There is also a
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark movie. We heard that this was coming. It's here,
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  Speaker 1: you guys. It's going to be on the Hallmark channel.
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  Speaker 1: And it's going to be on November 30th, just for
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  Speaker 1: the holidays. And it's basically the story of Taylor and Travis.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a blonde girl and a guy with some
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  Speaker 1: facial hair and sitting on a football field in the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs' colors wearing Cannot. We have to watch that. That's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a Juicy Scoop assignment. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: even watch Hallmark movies, but I'm going to have to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: watch that. Tom Brady was doing broadcasting and everyone says
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  Speaker 1: he sucks. They said he was awful. They can't believe
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  Speaker 1: that he got paid $ 32 million to do this job.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just for one year, but whatever.
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  Speaker 1: They said he wasn't good. I saw a quick clip
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of him and he looked cute. So that's all I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: care about. Kendrick Lamar is going to headline the Super Bowl.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I like his music a lot. I've never seen him
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  Speaker 1: in live, but everyone says he's like an amazing performer.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting. Also, Marlon Wayans did an interview recently,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought this was so interesting. He said that
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  Speaker 1: when they were doing In Living Color, for those of
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: you that are not familiar with Living in Color, it
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  Speaker 1: was completely groundbreaking. And not just because J-Lo was one
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: of these dancing girls that did between the sketches. It was,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I remember we would stop everything on a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night in college to watch this. So they did
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  Speaker 1: this thing where they had, according to Marlon, they had
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  Speaker 1: like a special live episode of In Living Color to
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  Speaker 1: air on Fox while the other network was playing the
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And And it was very, very edgy. I mean,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: these sketches would never be allowed today, but hilariously funny
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: at the time. And funny today, but just not appropriate. Anyway.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And so people left the network where Super Bowl was
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and went over to watch that. And so it was
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: after that, that then the people that produced the Super
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Bowl was like, we have to have really big halftime shows.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And that's when they started booking all the big stars.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Really not prior to that. So that was like, you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: early 90s. I never knew that. I never knew that.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But I remembered it. Now I remember seeing it and
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: remember hearing that that was like quite the coup. And
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty juicy. I'm watching a pretty
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: juicy show right now. Definitely, you guys, I need you
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to watch it so we can discuss it because there's
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: already some things that bug me about it that I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: need to get off my chest and talk about. But
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it's keeping my interest, which is most important. And it's
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: on Netflix. It's called The Perfect Couple, based on a
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: book and with Nicole Kidman. And it starts out, it's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the rehearsal dinner for a big wedding weekend for a
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: rich family in Nantucket. And There is a murder. And
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: then they flash back like a year before. And you're
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who killed this person and why.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And you know it's not going to be the obvious.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: So you keep watching. it but there's definitely some weird
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: things about it that I just need to talk about
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to give you guys a week to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: watch this it's a limited series and then we need
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: to go off okay because it's some things are very
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: odd like the opening scene of them dancing like just
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: so strange um Casey Anthony, top mom. That's what Nancy
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Grace used to call her. Casey Anthony, top mom. OK,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: she's a top mom. And sad to remind you the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: sad story. This is the again, another one. She could
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: be on Dancing with the Stars. They have not asked
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: her yet because she's not popular. So I can see that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: But because she was accused of killing her toddler daughter.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: But she did get off in the end. And then
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: recently she had a Netflix documentary where she blamed the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: death on her dad, said she had nothing to do
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: with it, and told this whole story that the dad
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: did it. Anyway, she is out having the time of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: her life with her new boyfriend. This is according to
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: New York Post. And apparently he blew off his wife
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of 20 years to be with her and their just
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: really happy. It has nothing to do with a wife.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: They're just really having a great time. And then in
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the article, it was like a source said that they
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: saw them at a restaurant and he said to her,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: bring that innocent ass over here. I'm like, no, he
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: did not. No, I don't believe that part of the story.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Do I believe that they're together?
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Do I believe that maybe he left his wife of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: 20 years? Yeah. But I don't think you're at a
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: restaurant being like, hey, Bring that innocent ass, like you
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: were innocent for killing your daughter. If they're together, they're
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: never bringing up the fact of what she lived through
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: in the past. They're just acting like it didn't happen.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: That's my opinion. All right, you guys, we have so
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: many other fun topics to discuss. I have a new
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Juicy Scooper, but she might not be new to all
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: of you because she opened for me a few times
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: this tour. I love her. She's adorable, and she's so funny.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: She has a great stand-up. Brittany Brave is here.
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• 22:30
  Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I need a home dad.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: It's about what happens next.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: every day was. You're worth the work.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: All right. We are back with Brittany Brave. Brittany, you're
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: so adorable.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And tell everybody how we met.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Our success story, our love story. We met in
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: April of this year. I had somebody from the improv
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: reach out and say, Heather McDonald. needs an opener this weekend.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I actually was going to ask them to be able
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: to open for you. Oh, really?
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, and then I think there was
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: like a miscommunication where one of the GMs of the
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: improv said, I thought she wanted a male opener, didn't
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: want a female opener, because I know everyone has specifics
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: for who they want to open for them. And I said, oh, OK.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: And then literally two days later, like one of the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: heads of the improv was like, Heather needs an opener.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And I was like, absolutely. And it was an interesting
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: weekend for me, too, because I just quit my radio job.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: And I had thrown together a big event for our
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: morning show that Friday night. And then this came up
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: and they were like, oh, do you want to open
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: for Heather McDonald? And I was like, I absolutely do.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: So bailed on that, rushed up to West Palm. And
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: here we are.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. And then and then we did another couple
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: shows in Florida.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Tampa and Orlando. Yes.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So you I don't know if you know this, but
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that Tampa crowd. was so, I mean, they were so fun.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: It was at the Hard Rock. They were so wild.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: A woman in the crowd was laughing so hard during
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: both of our sets and I think very drunk. Somebody
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: told me that she walked in with two drinks and
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: she threw up into her drinks because she was both
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: drunk and I guess having such a good time during
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: our sets. And she threw up in her drink and
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: then didn't leave because she was having such a good time.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: That's how great it is, you guys, to come see stand-up.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: It's CS Live, yeah. Um, So, OK, you were just
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: right when you got here telling me, reminding me of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: an interesting story you had regarding P. Diddy.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Tell that story.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: OK, so earlier this summer, like June, I threw a
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: roast of P. Diddy because obviously all these accusations came out.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: that are horrifying, even though people have been calling him
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: out on this behavior for like over a decade, right?
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And I myself, I'm a domestic violence survivor too. So
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I dated a monster for three years and sent him
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: to jail, got out, got a restraining order.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Wait, I don't know all this.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know if I've ever told you. Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: this was a couple years ago now. But yeah, yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: dark time.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Well, wait, where is he now?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I think he's in Salt Lake City.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: So he did his time.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: He did his time, and then we went to court again,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and then he got off on a plea bargain, which
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: was like total bullshit. But I have a restraining order,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and he's been out of my life now for five years.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Everyone's always like, is he dead? I'm like, no, but
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: he's living in Salt Lake City, so that's close enough.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: He's just surrounded by Mormon wives.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, thank God. We might see him on the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: new Mormon show.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: You never know.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Secret Lives of... Listen, by Mormon girls, beware of this person. No. What...
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I just want to ask a couple questions.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So you found yourself in this relationship.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: And then when, when did there come a time where
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Brittany brave, you're brave enough to just be like, I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: can't do this anymore.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I, um, and believe it or not, brave is
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: really my last name. I think because I went through
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: that and I also do stand up, everybody's always like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: what a killer stage name. And I'm like, Nope, just
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: my Italian parents assimilated when they moved here. Yeah, we
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: met when I was working in the music business. I
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: was a publicist at Columbia Records and Sony, and he
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: was a manager and met. He was a lot older
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: than me.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: How much older?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: 17, 18 years.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: So how old were you when you met him?
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Mid-20s, early 20s, so he was 40.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: That's such a big difference at that age.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: If you were 40 and he was 55, it's a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: whole different story, you know, or even 35 and 50.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: But early 20s is Yes, it's over 18, but wow. Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: You know, it's young.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I say that all the time. I'm always like, you know, yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: like 30 to 40, then you're kind of more or
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: less at the same place in life. And the funny
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: part is when I told even just my mom, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: about the age difference and that he had been married
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: once and divorced, which there's nothing wrong with that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: But also he had a seven-month-old baby daughter, like with
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: his baby mama.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, so, God.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who is actually a former Playboy bunny, and she's wonderful,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Deanna Brooks. Yeah, and we're friends now. And did you.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Become friends once? Yeah. And did he tell you awful
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: things about her?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it was such classic DV. The thing about
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: these relationships is they're always very textbook.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, so tell us the textbook signs. So, for instance—
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I'm very lucky to never have experienced anything like this.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: But let's share.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: So— One of the number one things, and I look
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: for it, I think it's like the biggest red flag
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: in dating now, is whenever a person is unable to,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: if not speak highly of their ex, that whole dragging
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: of their ex, and like, they're the problem, they were crazy.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: It's a huge red flag for me any time a
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: man calls a woman crazy now, because that's usually like, well,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: what did you do to warrant that reaction? And did
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: she call you out on your shit? Did she send
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: you to jail? Did she get a restraining order? Obviously,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: no two cases.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Were you cheating and she looked at your phone?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Literally.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: That's, yeah. No drama, please. It's like, no, that's not drama.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: You were cheating.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: You were cheating and you got caught. I remember one
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: time I literally caught him red-handed cheating and he said,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: he goes, yeah, the issue is that you talk to
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: my friends and you go looking. And I'm like, that's
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: like getting caught for murder and on trial being like, well...
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: if you didn't show up to the scene of the crime,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be here. That's the same logic. But that's
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: number one red flag, is he always spoke really badly
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: of her. She was crazy, she was over emotional. She
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: was hiding the kid from him. It was like so dramatic.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Number two, she warned me. She had reached out once
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: she figured out that we were dating and I got
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: like 13 DMs and it was like, oh, you're the
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: new girlfriend. Well, well, well. And honestly, it foreshadowed so
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: much of the relationship.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: But at that time, you weren't going to receive it
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: because you were believing that she was crazy. So you're like,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of course you're jealous of me and you're going to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: try to ruin our love.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: 100%. And it's like, I also was young. It was
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: the first time I was really in love. He was
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: a lot older. That always got thrown in my face.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: It was always like, well, you wouldn't know. You've never
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: been married. You wouldn't know. I'm older than you. I've
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: lived more life than you. And yeah, when you're in
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: love with someone, your rose-colored goggles are on, right? Yeah.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I remember it feeling weird and I definitely brought him
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: the DMs like, let's chat about this. Some of this
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: is concerning. And he was like, she's fucking crazy and
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: this and that. But the thing is, you can't hide,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: you can only hide that behavior and that toxicity for
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: so long. Literally, He was moved into my apartment before I.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: So wait, the rich older guy, but he moves in
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: with you?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: No, he wasn't rich.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: At all.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: He talked a big game and.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: So was there a love bombing aspect to this as well?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: A thousand percent.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Tell me how that happened.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. You're the love of my life.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Right off the bat.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Right off the bat. I'm obsessed with you. I've never
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: met anybody like you. And if you're like in your
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: mid 20s... And a young girl and you've never been
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: in love before.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: See, I think love bombing can happen to anybody. Anybody.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Because I think it's like someone just tells you how
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: great you are and you're like, finally, somebody gets me.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I agree. Exactly. I agree I'm gorgeous.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I agree this body should be wanting to be banged
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: every day.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I've been waiting my whole life for someone to be
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: obsessed with me.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Finally. Finally. Yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And also like in 2024, like dating has changed so much.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: It's so hard to even get guys now to express
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: interest or make a plan or follow through. So yes,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: when you do have a guy in front of you
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: who you're into and he's into you, I feel like
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: everybody gets a lot bombed nowadays. It's so common. But
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: it was a lot. It's funny because my mom and
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: everybody around me was like, this is a lot quickly.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: And my parents were like, we don't understand why a
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: 40-year-old man is moving in with his 23, 24-year-old girlfriend.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Why is he not with his seven-month-old daughter? Where is
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the mother of his child? Like, all very valid.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Do you have other kids with the first wife?
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: No.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: No kids with the first wife.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, just the one baby.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And did he have any visitation, which then you played
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: stepmom to?
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I did. I played stepmom a little bit in the relationship. Like,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was a deadbeat on, like, every front. Like,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: I remember having to remind him of his own daughter's birthday. Like,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: it was crazy.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Like, I was like, her.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Birthday is next week. You know, and he was like, oh, right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, are you going to visit? Are you
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: going to do something? So, yeah, it all I was
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: super in love and he moved into my apartment. It
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: was like, I really want to stay with you for
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: the summer in New York. He had said he was
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: living in L.A. at the time. Later learned he was evicted,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: did not have a place to live. He was actually
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: with his parents in Lubbock, Texas. Like it was every
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: part of his life as the relationship went on. just
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: like fell apart. Like every, nothing added up. Yeah, everything.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Nightmare.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: So then when did it turn to a violent situation?
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Situation. So honestly, it was about six months in. Around
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: three months in is when I started having some trust issues.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Like just, you know, weird text messages from girls, stories
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: not adding up.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: So was he like a good looking, charming guy so
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that he could get girls to be interested in him,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I assume?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: No, to be honest. He was like not ugly, but
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I guess if I were to give him credit, like
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: he was, he knew how to talk to people. He
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: was a manager in the, in show business.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So like he was very smart.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: He was good at his job. I think he knew
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: how to like schmooze and talk to people. And I
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: think at some point when you're like in your early twenties,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: mid twenties, an older guy is really like appealing to you.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: You're like, Oh, he has his shit together. And, He's
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: older and there won't be as many games, which I
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: guess to his credit in pursuing me, there weren't games.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: But yeah, he was like, oh, I want to come
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: hang out with you for the summer in New York.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: And I said, OK, but you should probably still stay
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: with your friends. We're still just dating early on. And
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: then I don't know, before I knew it, he was
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: moved in, basically living in New York. We were fully together.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: And then, yeah, there was one night where he went out,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: lied about where he was going I don't know why
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: it clearly was up to something that he didn't want
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: me to know came home hammered drunk like early to
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: like 8 p.m comes home hammered probably coked out there
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: was a huge there was obviously substance abuse issues too
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: and I just kind of caught him in a lie
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: and I said well what I don't know why you
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: would lie about going to this happy hour like I
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: don't there's I didn't accuse you of anything I didn't
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: have any issues and he just went from like zero
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: to a hundred and he tried to like shove me
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: out of my own apartment. Like he tried to, he
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: was like, it's never gonna be enough. I didn't do it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: He was like irrational, so drunk. And I was near
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: the door of my apartment because I wanted to go
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: for a walk and he pushed me out of my
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: own apartment. And when I tried to get back in,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: he closed the door on my hand. Yeah. And I
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, that was the first incident. And then
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: we walked it back from that. I'm sorry, I was
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: too drunk. I did lie. I shouldn't have lied. I
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: really wasn't, all the textbook stuff. And then it just,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: it got bad. It was really bad. Like to the
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: point where I didn't even really want to send him
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: to jail. I just wanted to get a restraining order
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: when I was ready to go. And when I presented
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: all the evidence, death threats, domestic incident reports, every time
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I had to call the cops on him because he
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: was out of control, the detective I worked with in
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: New York was like, oh, he needs, he needs.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: To go to jail.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Like, This is aggravated harassment, harassment, assault. This is like
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: out of your hands now. So here we are.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it also sounds like you finally had a
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: detective that cares. You often hear that people don't, you know,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, we need more or whatever. Yeah. So
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: then you, so then he got arrested.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: And I left. I literally fled. Like we, I flew
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: to Salt Lake City for one last weekend to try
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: to work it out, to, Even though everybody in my
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: life at this point was so over him. At some point,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: relationships like this isolate you from everybody. They were like, okay,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: we can't get through to her. She keeps trying to leave.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: He keeps coming back. She keeps coming back. It's such
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: a vicious, hard cycle. I went to Salt Lake City.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: It was supposed to be our hurrah, let's heal, let's
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: rekindle weekend. Of course, a day in, he's a violent drunk.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: monster again. Um, really bad. And I, when he was
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: busy watching TV, I stepped outside of his apartment, called
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: American Airlines, switched my flight silently. He had no idea.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: And then I got out of bed at like three
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: 30 in the morning when he was like dead asleep,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: finished packing and left. Like I was supposed to stay
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: like two more days and I just, the light switch
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: went off. So like my advice always to girls or
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: people in this situation is like, You do have the
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: strength to leave. You can leave. And also if you're
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: friends or you're near somebody who's going through something like this,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: like they will, they will leave. But a lot of
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the times you have to arrive at that conclusion on
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: your own, which I did.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: But I literally, he woke up and I was gone.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: And by the time I had landed in New York,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I had him blocked on everything. And I just went
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: straight to the courthouse in Dumbo, Brooklyn. And I was like,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: please help me.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: And then did he get arrested in Salt Lake?
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: So he got arrested a month later. Um, it was the, the,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Messed up thing is even if there's multiple incidents across
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: the country, which there were because we lived in L.A.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: for a little time together, there were incidents in Salt Lake,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: incidents in Miami where I live now. Obviously, New York
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: can only rule over New York and that jurisdiction. So
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I knew he was going to visit a month later.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I had just I restart my life. I had just
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: moved to a new area of Brooklyn. He knew the neighborhood,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: but he had no idea what the cross street subway
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: stops were. And the detective said, okay, well, when he's
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: in town, we have to serve him the restraining order
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: and we'll arrest him. We have to do it in person.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I said, okay. So I was working with my detective
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: all week, like using context clues through like burner accounts,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: mutual friends to try to find him, to get them
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: to just serve him and arrest him. And this is
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: so much, I know I've never told you any of this.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: No, no. I, um, I.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Went to a new client show at Gramercy Theater in
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: New York, and I told my detective, I know he's
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: gonna be here. And the detectives, a couple of them
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: was working with me.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Wait, what do you mean a new show? You were performing.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I was still a publicist at the time. I hadn't
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: even started comedy.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I have a feeling he's gonna
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: show up. He knows I like this band. He knows.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: And they were like, okay, yeah, yeah, okay. And I
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: was like, really? Like, I'm telling you guys, I know him.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: He's gonna try to see me while he's in New York.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: This is where he's gonna pull up. Sure enough, Halfway
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: through the show, I get a text from him. He
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: took a picture of me in the crowd. And he's like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: I'm here. I'm afraid to say hi to you, but
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I was hoping we could. I freak out. Detectives don't
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: have my back in this moment. They're not there. I'm crying.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I run out of the venue. The next morning, he called.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: He's like, please see me, love you, we can work it,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: all the usual crap. Called my detective, I'm like, this
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: is his last day in New York, this is our
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: last chance. If you're gonna serve him, this is the
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: last opportunity. Female detective.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And this was just a service so that you could
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: be granted the restraining order. And then you were kind
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: of like, hey, what happens after that is your deal.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: 100%.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, got it.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: And also they were planning to arrest him on aggravated harassment, harassment,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: and assault. Those were the three charges. And I called
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: her and I said he really, he somehow figured out
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: where I live. Not surprising. And he picked a bar
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: on the block of my new apartment. Again, have no
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: idea how he figured this out. And he said, please
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: just come meet me for a drink. Please just talk
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: to me. And the detective said, text him right now
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: and tell him, sure, I'll meet you. Give me 20 minutes.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: And I told him that, and he said, okay. And
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: then instead of me meeting him at the bar, it
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: was two women, two. Two women who walked up to
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: him and were like, close your tab. And he was like,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: what's happening? And they were like, what's happening is you're
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: under arrest. And arrested him at the bar, served him
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the restraining order, and here we are. So he thought, yeah. Juicy, right?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: His girlfriend slash victim turned survivor slash detective was going
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: to meet him, forgive him, and fall in love again.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And instead, he spent the night in jail.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was in jail for a couple weeks
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: because it wasn't actually the first time that he had
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: gone to jail because I had to call the cops
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: because of a terrible incident. Yeah. he blew through everybody
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: in his life that he could have called for bail money.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Like he had no, he had nobody left. He isolated
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: crappy person. He isolated his clients, his friends, everybody. He
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: had nobody left. Um, yeah, it was, and it's a
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: mix of emotions too. Cause it's like empowering, freeing. Oh
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: my God, I finally did it. Like I really, that's
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: why I was so anxious that week with, and working
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: so closely with the detectives to get this stuff locked
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: in and arrest him and give him the order. Cause
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, finally for the first time in three years,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: I saw the light and I was really ready to leave.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, please like end this for me while,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: while I feel strong enough to get out of this. Right. Um,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: and then, yeah, he had, he eventually got bailed out
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: of jail and then we went back to court three
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: months later. Um, and he got off on a plea bargain.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: He basically pled guilty to like one of the charges
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: and he did anger management, some fines, some community service,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. But Yeah, I currently have
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: a restraining order. He can't come near me.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And he is not tried or violent?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: He is not tried. Thank God. I will say that.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: He is not tried. I think I've truly scared him, finally. Good.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You should be on that. There's a new show
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: on Netflix, The Worst Ex Ever or something.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I should be on that.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I've seen a couple. I've seen a couple. They're like
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: little documentary one-episode segments. I would love it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: If they need a new host, I'm here.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: It's not a host.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: They can do your story, though.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, so now getting back to, so now you're doing stand-up.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: You've been doing it for how long?
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Four, four and a half years, something like that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: So did you start the stand-up after this chapter of
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: your life ended?
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I did, because the first couple of things I really
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: wanted to joke about were, like, the first jokes I
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: wrote are, like, really dark and about this experience. And, like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: I would tell my friends, and they'd be crying laughing
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: at me. What is it?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Can you tell everyone now? Oh, yeah.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I have, like, one of my jokes is, like, I
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: sent him to jail. And I was, like, the judge was, like,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: 25 to life. And my first thought was, oh, my God,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: he's finally so committed. Like, just, like, and I'm, like,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I got to see him in handcuffs. And I was, like, oh,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: to think you were the one that never wanted this
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to get serious. Like, certain things like that. And I
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: talk about how, like, I'm a rescue dog now because
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: of that relationship. And I had a really funny story
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: when I was trying to get my restraining order. I
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: was sitting next to a girl, deep Brooklyn. We were
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: at like family court. And she was like, why are
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: you here? And she was like a very like Brooklyn girl.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Like really, like she's like, why are you here? And
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, my boyfriend like hit me and he's
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: kind of crazy. So I'm trying to get a restraining
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: order to end this. And she's like, okay. I go,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: why are you here? And she was like, I need
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: to get a restraining order against my man and his
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: new girl. Because I'm pissed he moved on, and I
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: don't like her. So if I get a restraining order
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: against them, then they grant it to me, and I
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: can fuck them up, and nobody can do nothing. And
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: in my head, I'm like, I don't think that's how.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, and this is why sometimes the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: detectives will say, we need more, ma'am. Because there's people
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, you go, girl. But so funny, such
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: a New York girl, because she immediately had my back.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: She's like, does he live in New York? And I
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: was like, nobody comes here a lot for work. She
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: was like, if I see him, I'm going to fuck
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: him up. I'll find him. I'll kill him. I will.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: And it was so funny because she walked, poor thing
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: walks in the courthouse and then walks out and looks
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: at me. She goes, oh, they didn't give it to me.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: That's the other thing that people also need to realize
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: is if you are granted a restraining order.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It is very hard for all these reasons. And, you know,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: if you're the person that is trying to where they're
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: trying to get it against you you don't want it
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: because it is on your record it will show up
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: on things so that's why other people will fight it
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and it is a big deal so it is.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: And it's it's also too like if you're the one
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: who and this is where it's twisted if you request
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: the restraining order and it's given to you that person
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: can't come near you but you can choose to break
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: it at any point. Which, honestly, with domestic violence happens
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: a lot because it's such a vicious cycle and there's
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: so many mind games and there's vulnerability and you're not
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: in your obviously best physical and mental state when you're
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: with somebody for that long. But then obviously if you
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: break your own restraining order that you got, that's obviously
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: gonna work against you should something else happen. It's very,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, one time when I went in to go
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: renew it, I got told no. Cause the first time
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I had a female judge and she effortlessly granted it
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: and like rolled her eyes at everything he said in court,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: like the usual, like, well, she provoked me. Well, she's crazy.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: And the, and she was such a badass. She was like, Oh, okay. Okay. Like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: but the next time I had a male judge and
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: he was like, well, I don't know. He's been on
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: his best behavior. He didn't break the restraining order. And
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I understand that, but I also want to
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: like keep it in place because I like to continue
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: living my life free of his presence and, And I
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: had to really contest it for a couple months and stuff.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: So it's, it's all, it's crazy.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: So you have it and you haven't it for how
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: much longer now?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: It's indefinite now.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Like I'm fine now, but I had to like, and
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I could have also like pursued bigger charges and one
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: of my DV advocates really like wanted me to, but
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: then I spoke to somebody else and they were like, listen,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: you do have a case. Like there's a lot of
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: things that you could also address and press charges. And
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: if you really want to like, Send him to jail forever.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: You have a case, but they're like, also consider what
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: you're putting yourself through. And you're probably ready to move on, right?
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah. And they're like, probably just take
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: your restraining order. It'll keep him away from you. And
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: just try to start a new chapter. Instead of put
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: yourself through the ringer again. Yeah, start a comedy after that.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Trauma. That's why everyone goes trauma. I go, yeah, that's
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: really what led me to stand up specifically. So, yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Well, comedy is tragedy plus time.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Now, when you first started this story, you were saying
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: you did a like a comedic roast or what was
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: this about?
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: It was a roast of P. Diddy. So that story,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I hope, gives like that kind of context because obviously
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: I'm really passionate about DV and helping survivors and victims.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: was really upset about all the stuff coming out about P. Diddy,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: and I think I was even more upset about some
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: of my friends' reactions. People I considered friends being like, well,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: we don't know if he's guilty. And I'm like, did
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: you see the hotel footage? I don't know, and it
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: was just upsetting for me, given what I went through.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: So I was like, I just wanna roast his ass.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I wanna get a bunch of comics, and I just
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: wanna write jokes, all the tickets will go to charity,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: the National Domestic Violence Hotline. All the comics were on board.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: It was great. They were like, this will be fun,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: fun writing exercise. Yeah, let's roast this billionaire pedophile abuser.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: And the bar that I ended up picking in Miami,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: on board immediately, they were like, let's do it. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: was only in town for one week, and that week
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: they were already speaking to 50 Cent about a potential
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: promotional appearance for his new cognac. And they were like,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: if we could pull this off, This would be, if
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: we can align the dates, I even canceled a gig
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: in DC, they were like, we can get him to
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: come by, we'll tell him the roast is happening, and
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: maybe he'll, and he did. We couldn't announce that he
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: was coming, but we could tease it, and then, yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: night of the show, he rolled up, he knew it
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: was a roast, he knew it was for charity, he
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: was like, 100%, I wanna be there. It was great
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: because we got a bunch of national coverage. We raised
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: more money than we would have. It was wild. Crazy.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: I hit on 50 Cent. I flirted with him. It
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: was great.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I've hung out with 50 too.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: He's sweet.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yes. We hung out for a few weeks because he
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: was dating Chelsea.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: I remember that.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: And he was totally a nice delight.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: That's all I can say.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: He's so nice. And he was so nice to the comics,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: especially once he learned about the cause and stuff. He
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: was like 100%. I mean, he's also like a famed
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Diddy hater. So I'm sure the petty side of him
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also he was like,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: this is a great cause. Absolutely. And afterwards he was like,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I could never be a comedian. What you guys just
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: did was so great. And then I got someone from
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: his team's number, and they were like, he wants to
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: party with you. And I was like, ah! But, yeah, anyways,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: nothing happened. I wish it did. I should have. But, anyway.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I want to tell you about this book
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: called There Is No Ethan. This is from the New
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: York Post. It's based on a true story. So I've
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: actually– this story is just fascinating. So– These three women
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: found each other because they realized they were all being
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: catfished by this guy named Ethan.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: So it was an Ethan.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Ethan was actually a female gynecologist. Oh. Who, when she's
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: not working as a medical doctor, did this for fun.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: So would create, you know, whatever, a stock photo of
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: some guy or something.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: And- went on dating sites, met the women, and never,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I guess, never did FaceTime or maybe never talked on
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the phone, which I always think that's weird. Like, how
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: long do you go? And I've never experienced, you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: apps and stuff like that.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I don't really use them.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: But how long would you go solely texting in a
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: relationship before you're like, hey, either we get on the
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: phone or your face. So, you know, but she did.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I haven't read the book, but She did waste these
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: girls' times, these women's times. And they let the hospital know. Yeah.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: And everything. And they're like, well, we looked into it
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and it was 10 years ago. And we think that,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: you know, she's done really well and it's fine. And
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and the thing about this is I listened
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: to this podcast. this great long podcast about it. It's
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: from the podcast called something was wrong. And this, it
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: was like several episodes in it. And it was about,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: and it was about a girl that pretended to, she
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: would meet, she would present herself as a guy online. Yeah.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: And just lead women on. And then, and then would
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: become physical friends with the girl.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: And sometimes there were several girls and sometimes she would
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: do it with, she'd become their roommate.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And the whole time. She's also catfishing them.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: She would be like in the bed next to them
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: watching a movie just as friends.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: They were like, is she a lesbian? And she'd be
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: texting them back as the guy. And the thing is
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: that both that story and this is that she would,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: that these women that present to be guys.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: To a straight, to a girl who thinks they're in
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: a straight relationship with someone. They create all this drama.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: They're like, never mind. You clearly don't want me. They
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: both faked cancer.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Cancer, like being ill.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And then so then these girls are like, well, I
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: can't leave him now. Sometimes there's different characters that they'll play.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: So then they also are suddenly friends with the fake
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: boyfriend's cousin.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's all the person. And it's all this
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: one person who's doing it. And it's a girl.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Yes. In both of these cases, one which was, and
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: in both of the cases, when the victims tried to
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: get police involved, it isn't really a crime. Because unless
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: they tried to extort money from you.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Or harm you.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Or harm you, which they didn't. They just wasted your time.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: It was just full-blown emotional cyber abuse.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: And faking who they are. In the case of the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: story from the podcast, There was a guy, and he's like, oh,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: my God, because somebody found his face, and he's like,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: she's doing this again?
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: She's used my face before to fake out women.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: That's not a crime, though? Like, using somebody else's likeness
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: and image? Like, that's got to be the one thing, that, right?
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Right. There's something a little bit there, but still, it's
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: just a very... You know, sometimes these crimes, my sister's
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: a criminal defense attorney. She's like, so many of these things,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: we're not caught up yet with what's happening. So there
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: isn't like law precedence for, it's like.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: And they're just kind of like, can you just change
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: your number? Can you just block this? And then.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Totally.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: But then the victims are like, yeah, but. She has
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a sickness.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: She's done this now to four other women. Yeah. And
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: so this woman has a book out and this is
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the doctor.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: That's insane. So she's professionally a gynecologist.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: A female doctor for a female body part.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: So you're saying to me she makes great money. She's
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: a professional gynecologist day in and day out. She's interacting
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: with women already and arguably one of the most vulnerable...
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: settings yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: That's not enough i also want to like and the
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: joy mentally ruin them that's crazy what i think it's
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: so crazy that it's a woman is when you've seen
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: this happen before yeah with with men pretending to be
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: successful or pretending getting getting women to fall in love
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: with them as a game and or even with regular
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: grifter people that um you know get joy out of
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: seeing you be excited because you think you're going to
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: be part of this big business that's a scam or whatever.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: They get off on it. Or a guy that's, like,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: taking his girlfriend, or even in person, a guy that's, like,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: taking the girlfriend to see houses. I always think that's sad.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: It always seems like realtors have to deal with a
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: lot of weird grifters, too.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: I'm sure. Because that's always this.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: And so now you're, like, and I think they get
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: off on seeing the realtor think, like, oh, God, I've
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: had my license for a year.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: I might make this sale.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I might have this sale.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: It's such a weird thing.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, I live in Miami, so that's the capital
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: for everything you're talking about right now. Like literally everything
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: you do. Every man's like a character from Grand Theft Auto.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Everybody's trying to sell you on a business plan. And
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: then you're like, so what is it you do? And
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: they're like, I'm just out here grinding, connecting the dot.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: And you're like, this isn't all of a sudden all
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: the money in your account's wired out. So I get it.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: I'm around it. I'm constantly dodging it in Miami all
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: But I find whether it's a man or a woman, Yeah.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: More intriguing that it's a woman.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: So you end your hard day of being a medical doctor.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: And then you're like getting in weird text fights with
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: an attractive woman who thinks this might be her boyfriend.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Like she makes him. Oh, the one thing that she
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: also did is she made him Jewish. And she found
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: a Catholic girl. Got the Catholic girl to fall in
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: love with her.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Got her to convert to Judaism?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: No, but then was like, well, to really- Not going
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: to work. Not going to work, my mother won't accept you.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's believable.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I've gone through that personally. But I'm saying.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Just the tactical ways to seeking out this girl to go,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Almost like seeing, okay, I'm on the Tinder or whatever. Yeah.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what side it was. But I'm
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: on the Tinder and I'm as this fake guy and
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I'm seeking out girls to and sees this person. Yeah.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: And is like, oh, I'll pursue this one because then
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: in five weeks I will break her heart. And won't
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: that be fun for me on a Tuesday night while
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I'm alone in my bed?
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: That's why. And she doesn't have any sexual interest in
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: sleeping with women.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: We don't know that part because it's just, we'd have
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: to read the book. But it's just, hey, if you're
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: the author, come write me. Let's have you on. Also,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: does she have like, does.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Gynecologists have high levels of testosterone in her body? Because
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: this is like straight male behavior. To just want to
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: like play mind games with a poor woman and waste
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: her time.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a level... of, I think there's,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: soon there'll probably be some type of like real diagnosis
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: in this day and age, but it's a level of
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: being a troll, having like several identities, playing with people's
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: emotions somehow that you'll never really meet.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: And you also won't suffer any real consequence because like
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: you said, there's no way to really arrest her.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, in this case, I don't know if she
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: knew any of these women personally as her as her
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: normal person. In the other case I talked about, that
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: girl was like roommates with them.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: And quite literally in bed with these people.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Like as friends. As friends.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. I feel like also the number one red
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: flag is like, I feel like both of these women
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: in this scenario would be the kind of woman that's like,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of female friends or something.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: They'd probably be like, all my friends are men. Because
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: this is like, to just want to like ruin women's lives.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Like this is insane. And it's just such a cruel thing.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Because like you said, like, Love and dating is so hard.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And then you create this person that sounds great, looks great.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Same with the other case. Like they, if, you know,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: she would create a guy to then like pursue her friend.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: That she knows a friend would like, like. You know,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: if they're in a more conservative town, she made him
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: a little edgy and liberal with some tats.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure. And if it's in Austin, then he
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: obviously works in tech or something.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: They just created this where a girl's like, oh my God, actually?
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: This guy's perfect for me.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: And this is wild. I don't even know where to.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: And it was always like this.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Like an accident. Like I was going to meet you,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: but now I got in this car accident and then
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: it's like, and you know, okay, should I drive all
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: this way and see you? And then, Oh no, my
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: phone was dead. Sorry that you already drove back.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that. No, I didn't know that now
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: whenever I have A, either a new female friend or B,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: God forbid, I need to switch gynecologists. Like, I didn't
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: know that one of the preliminary questions needs to be like,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: what do you do in your free time? Can I
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: hook you up to a lie detector machine to see
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: like who you really are? That's, this is. Although, it
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: does give me a little bit of hope because I've
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: always joked for years that I'm like, we need a
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: really good diabolical female character. I'm always like, we need
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: a female serial killer. The most famed serial killers are
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: always men, like the Zodiac Killer or John Wick.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I think that's what makes it fascinating because as- Yeah,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: it's a woman. Yeah, and women can be horrible. Women
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: can be narcissists, women can be horrible, women can be evil,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: women can lie, women can fake.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: You know, it really breaks my heart.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: There aren't as the percentage is down. It's always going
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: to be a little bit less just because it just is. Yeah.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: But there's there's evil bitches out there.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: This is crazy. This is insane. And I also feel
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: like catfishing like dating in 2024. Everyone kind of cat.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Same way. Like love bombing. Everyone kind of love bombs,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I feel. Men just kind of love bombs. I feel
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: like it happens to everybody. And I feel like catfishing
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: happens to everybody, too. Even on a smaller scale, you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: think a guy is one way, and then he's not.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I have so many girlfriends who go through that. They're like,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: I thought he had his shit together. And then three
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: months in, I'm paying for everything. Or, surprise, there's a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: kid or something. So this is like.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: My friend's daughter, she's a teenager, and she's like, we
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: went to go play... the sport against this very rich
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: LA prestigious school.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: And this one girl was just horrible, horrible, mean, awful,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: just like the meanest. They couldn't believe how mean this was.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And, um, And so then on the whole bus
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: ride back, they went and looked up her Instagram and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: she comes from famous parents and she goes, but she goes,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: but she's totally catfishing. Like her Instagram doesn't look anything
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: like what she looked like as the 16 year old girl,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: but she has these famous parents and she's just a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: mean person. So she's like, we didn't care looking her
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: up and being like, she's a fucking liar because it
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: was just, and I of course know all she's talking about,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say it on the show.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my God, like what? And they're
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: at this like, you know, prestigious Christian school and they're
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: just a horrible mean girl.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: But that's, it's, that's crazy. This is insane. I just
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: wish people would find a regular hobby instead of just
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: doing this. It's great. Well, we had like in Miami,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: we had, it's not quite catfishing, but it's crazy. And
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: it's like one of our biggest scandals in our comedy scene.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: So there was a girl who, it's just comedy. And
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: I think like, she had some issues with partying and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: drinking and stuff like that, but it would never kind
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: of add up. Whenever she acted badly, it was one
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: of two excuses. It was either like, oh, well, I'm sorry,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: I really need to get clean and I know that
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: my drinking and my drug use is out of control,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: or when she would do something shitty, it was the opposite,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: where it was like, okay, well, I'm recently clean, so
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to get, the stories never added up
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: and she always used her partying as an excuse for
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: her crazy behavior. I, from the day I met her,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: I thought I got like a weird vibe from the whole,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: in her face and her vibe and everything. I was like,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: I don't, this, I was like, she really looks like
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: she would be like Casey Anthony's accomplice. Like, she really,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: crazy energy. So like, she would do, she borrowed my
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: friend's car one day. She was supposed to bring it
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: back at the end of the day. She went off
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: grid on her, ghosted her. Her phone didn't die. Brought
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: the car back two days later. My friend was literally
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: about to call the police. And she goes, what is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: wrong with you? Like, I told you you could borrow
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: my car for a day. She goes, oh, yeah, well,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I ran errands and I saw some friends.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: And, like, what?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: And she goes, like, are you a sociopath? Like, you
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: just didn't answer me for two days. Then she got
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: caught pocketing money from a hotel that hired her on
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: South Beach to run a comedy night. She was getting, like,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: thousands of dollars. None of the comics got paid.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: And this girl's a stand-up, too.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Sort of.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Sort of. That was like producing a night of stand-up.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Producing a night of stand-up. At a club or a restaurant. Okay,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: got it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: And a bunch of the comedians called the hotel, and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: they were like, we never got paid. And they're like,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: what are you talking about? We give her like three
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: grand a month. And they were like, are you? First off,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: she's only giving me $ 100. They were like second. So
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: pocketed all the money. And then we turn on our
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: local news in Miami. There's a guy, old guy. He's
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: at a column forever and it's called Help Me Howard.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: And it's when crazy crap like this happens that's like
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: not quite illegal or it is, but you're not getting
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: an answer and you just need to get to the
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: bottom of it. And this girl is on Help Me Howard.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: She was house sitting for somebody and when they came home,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: she had stolen a bunch of their jewelry, a bunch
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: of their items, including an urn that had the woman's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: dead one-month-old's ashes. And she threw the ashes out.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: To keep the urn.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: To keep the urn, because I guess the urn was
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: fancy and worth money. And then brought it to a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: pawn shop. And luckily, the hero in this story was
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: the man who ran the pawn shop. It was like,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: this is weird. Like when people walk in with like, oh,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: a Tiffany necklace, an urn.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: That has like remaining Tiffany. baby ashes in it, like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: random things. And then, yeah, she got put on the,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: and the craziest part about it is she's taken no
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: accountability and she's like, I was framed. Literally, the whole situation.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Wait, did she ever get arrested or anything?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: I think she ended up getting arrested at one point
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: and going to jail for a little bit, but even still,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: she still to this day will be like, Is she
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: still in Miami? Still in Miami.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I would think that she would go somewhere else.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: You would think she'd relocate.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Like be the grifter that goes somewhere else and starts
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: a whole new thing.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: No, she literally was on the local news and all
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: of us were like, we knew it. We knew she
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: was like super sketchy and a fraud. And then like
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: that night she was showing up to open mics with
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: like a white claw in her hand.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: And we were like, next she'll be on Dancing with
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: the Stars.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Well, next she'll be framed for catfishing her friends or something.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: But like it's, I just think it's insane. People can
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: live these double lives. I mean, I lived it in
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: my relationship. When I left him, I had to pull
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: a background check on him. And he always said that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: he moved around a lot because he was a tour manager.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: And he worked in music. And he would relocate and whatever.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. He was literally running from the law for years, Heather.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: And I saw it on his background check. So the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: world is weird. Everyone's a con artist.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Did you hear about the Risa Tisa thing? Risa Tisa
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: was this woman and she... Did a 50-part, 10-minute series
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: on TikTok about her horrible man that she was either
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: married to.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Who the fuck did I marry is what it was called.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, funny.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: And, you know, he was a liar and he would
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: do all these things. Sure. Anyway, they just started. They're
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: going to make that a movie.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. And I'll be first in line.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: I will be first in line. I'm ready for the remake.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: I'll audition.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Speaking of documentaries. Mm-hmm. The Fyre Festival. Remember the Fyre Festival?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: It's back.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: You know the first thought in my head when you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: said Fyre Festival was not even like the tragedy of
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: the money lost. It was that disgusting sandwich.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Well, he's back. He says it's going to happen in
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: April of 2025. They found an island, but it's much
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: better than what they had before because it actually has
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: hotels and stuff on it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: They already did a sellout at the $ 4.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: 99 price.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So for the tour, they don't, they don't know
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: who they're doing it, but he goes, I have a
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: real company that's doing it.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I'm working towards paying back the 25 million restitution. Okay. And, um,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: He's like, people probably want to come because even if
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: it is a disaster, then they just want to see.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Then they want to be in the front lines of
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: the disaster with the TikTok going viral of the cheese sandwiches.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: He goes, we will have cheese sandwiches, but they'll be
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: like really gourmet and delicious. And you can there is
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: even packages as high as one point one million dollars,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: which will include a luxury yacht. and scuba diving, and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you get up to $ 1. 1 million,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: but maybe you meet, maybe you have a private concert
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: or something with somebody. They don't know who the people are.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe $ 1. 1 million, that package just guarantees you make it
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: out of Fyre Festival alive. Yeah, yeah. It's like insurance
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: for your own life. But you promise you'll survive.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: You'll get out of here.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: I will say this. If anybody who goes to Fyre
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: Festival 2, if anything goes wrong in their experience... I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: don't want to hear about it. You're a glutton for
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: punishment if you go back to this. I cannot imagine
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: that they figured it all out. Something is going to
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: go wrong at this festival. Not to be a pessimist,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: but I don't know.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, he'll probably be on Dancing with the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Stars next year.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Because he looks pretty cute. He thinned out. He looks
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: a lot cuter than he did before. But yeah, all
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: this stuff, it's just like, well... Yeah, I could see
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: why someone would go, let's go, especially if they're big influencers.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: We'll document the whole thing.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: If it's a total great delight, great.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: And if it's a disaster, then great. Yeah. So I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: think that's kind of the plan.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping it's a disaster, selfishly. I really am, just
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: for the material. I am, absolutely. And I think it's like,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, talk about leaning in to whatever happens. I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: guess they're leaning into it, they're accepting that it was
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: an absolute disaster, absolute shit show a couple years ago,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: but it's like how, I don't even, and the funny
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: part is, in my head, if you were gonna make
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: a comeback with a festival like this, wouldn't you want
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: to ease into it a little bit? Wouldn't you want
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: to not be immediately lavish with $ 1. 1 million packages? I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: would be like, how about you just confirm a lineup?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: How about you just get hotels locked in? Let's ease
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: back into Fyre Festival.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I think whenever there's something celebrity-driven, I think there is
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: an element of international people that have so much money
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: from whatever country that they're like, I go. I'll go.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I'll go for the $ 1. 1 million or whatever.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: I guess that's true. Disposable income.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: If we get someone, then we'll just charter the yacht
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: and we'll keep 50% or whatever it is.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something to consider. Make sure you're wealthy enough
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: if you're going to go to Fyre Festival. To get
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: yourself out of Fyre Festival.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Make sure you have enough money for a contingency plan
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: on your own.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: I always feel that way about, have you ever been
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: to Burning Man?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. I just talked about Burning Man because
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just fascinated by... Who would ever want to go?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know. How much money? Is it expensive to go?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I assume it's pricey enough. It's pricey because I.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Think it's so much effort in what you have to
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: bring and set up and everything.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: And then there's like different levels of where you can
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: have it more luxury. And people say, no, you don't understand.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Now it's like you can just show up and you
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: can pay for the camp to be set up and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: there's taters and all this other stuff.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: I thought they had like a comedy club, like a
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: pop-up comedy club this year too.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: What? I think it's just about like being on psychedelic
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: drugs and stuff. I don't know what the appeal is.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: I don't either. It looks like a bunch of really,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: really rich people spent a lot of money to go
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: learn how to be a good person.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: I know a really, really rich person who went.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: And I saw all then when she got back and
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: put away all of her Mad Max outfits and stuff.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: It's so big. It's like the size of a whole closet.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: So she had to bring all that stuff.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: For all the outfits.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: And then also they had the nice homes and they
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: had the luxury, whatever. But then part of the bartering
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: was that she had to be like a housekeeper.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, in order to stay in her luxury home?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: I love that someone that rich spent that much money
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: to be like, let's see how the other half lives.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, she and her husband, I'm like, I go,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I just wonder, is either of them ever going to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: turn to the other and be like.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: Can we not next year?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Like, are you really both 100% on the same page
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: year after year after year of doing this? Yeah. But
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I know people that have gone for
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: like 20 years straight. I think that either you go
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: 20 years straight.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: Or you just do it once and then that's it.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Yes. I don't think there's anyone that's like, I did
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: it for three and I'm good.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's a lifetime commitment. I'm never not
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: going to go.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: And because it looked like I did see kind of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of older people there now.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: I did too.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: That have probably been going for 25 years. Or you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: went once and never again.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: And that's it. I could rationalize going to Fyre Festival
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: a second time before I could rationalize going to Burning
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Man a second time because at least Fyre Festival I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: want to see what happens.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: And there's like a beach.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: And there's a beach and I want to be a
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: part of history even if it's lopsided. But like Burning Man,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: it's just insane to me because I feel like everybody
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: who's gone to Burning Man comes back and they're like, no,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: you don't understand. It's groundbreaking. Like it's really important to
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: be kind to people. They always like go to Burning
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Man and come back like, did you know it's really
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: important to be like polite to people and consider. I'm like,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: you had to go to this random festival and spend
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: a bunch of money to be in a desert stranded
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: to learn that you should maybe look out for other
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: people's interests. That's everybody I know who goes to Burning Man.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you could have learned that just with your neighbor,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: but okay. Yeah. I have no desire, but I was
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: the same way with Bonnaroo. What's Bonnaroo? Bonnaroo's the one
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: they do in Nashville that's kind of like, I feel
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: like it's like Burning Man light. Okay. Not really. It's
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: not as, you don't barter, and it's obviously.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: But there's music, though.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: There's music, there's comedy. It's very hippie-like. It's maybe not Nashville,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: maybe like right outside of Nashville. But even Burning Man alone,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, ugh, I'm not gonna, it looks like
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I'm roughing it. And I don't camp, I glamp. and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: I don't even glamp, you know what I mean? I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, my chosen festival would be Lollapalooza in Chicago.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: That one's nice and has its shit together and whatever.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: But Burning Man feels like Bonnaroo on crack.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Because if I feel like the hotel I'm going to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: might require me to bring my own hair dryer, that's
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: about camping as I go. I literally threw a.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Fit at my hotel in Hollywood two days ago because
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, the lights aren't working!
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I know, I just started packing my own mirror.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, why haven't I done this before?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I won't even go to a dive bar. My
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: friends are like, come on, let's just go grab a drink.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: And if I walk in and the lights are too
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: low and they don't have dry vermouth for my martini
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: and it smells like plumbing, I'm like, this is abhorrent.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: I need to leave immediately. I need to go to
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: lounges and martini bars. So I'd be on day two
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: of Burning Man and I would be like, just let
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: me die. Just let me, I'd be like, I hate this.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: So yeah.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Real quick before we close it up. This was from
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: People Magazine. This has gone viral. This was an obituary
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: that this girl posted for her mother. Florence Flo Harrelson, 65,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: died on February 22nd without family by her side due
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: to burnt bridges, and a wake of destruction left in
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: her path. It's going to be my obituary. Florence did
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: not want an obituary or anyone, including family, to know
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: she died. That's because even in death, she wanted those.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: She terrorized to still be living in fear, looking over
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: their shoulders. So this isn't so much an obituary, but
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: more of a public service announcement. I.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I love this.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: I love it too. I love this energy.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Sometimes when someone's horrible and you hear they died and
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: you're like, okay.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: You know what really annoys me? Yes, that and what
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: really annoys me is when people, when celebrities, certain celebrities
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: die and people, I understand having a very strong emotional
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: connection to some celebrities. Obviously for me, when Robin Williams died,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: very sad. Kobe Bryant was very sad or whatever. But like,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: I always get, like, it's such a pet peeve when
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: my friends get really upset when certain celebrities die. I'm like,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: you didn't know them. Like, you don't know if they're shitty.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: You didn't know. Like, don't act like your world is
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: crashing around you. You didn't just lose your brunch partner.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, it's okay. Like, it's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: the same thing. Like, it's like when the Diddy stuff.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: I was like, let his career die. He's a billionaire
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: pedophile or whatever. But this reminds me, like, didn't Shannon Doherty,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: before she passed, she had a list of people she
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: didn't want at her funeral?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: I loved that. I was like, I don't want people
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: who treated me shitty, cheated on me, lied to me,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: were not good friends, whatever, talk crap about me. I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: don't want them showing up when I'm passing into the afterlife.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: So that they can, like, network at my funeral.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Yeah. Like, I'm like, don't come pay your respects.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: If you couldn't respect me when I was alive, don't
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: respect me when I'm dead in a casket. Like, you
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Yeah. I love this. Honestly, the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: energy of her headshot's incredible as well, too.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I honestly thought that was Richard Simmons for two seconds,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: which is terrible of me to say, but that's what
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: I thought for two seconds. Yes. Yeah. I love this.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Girl, tell everybody where they can start following you.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, yay.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: And enjoy the joy that you are.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Brittany Brave. Brittany Brave, B-R-I-T-T-A-M-Y, Brave on everything. TikTok. TikTok. Instagram.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: I'm on tour. I'm going to be doing some stuff
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: at New York Comedy Festival. Oh, cool.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: I have a big Miami headline show coming up to November.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: And yeah, come see me. Oh, I have my podcast, too.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: I have a podcast. It's called Big Yikes. It's brand new. Great.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: And I get cool people to come on and admit
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: their big yikes moment, meaning whenever they messed up or
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: fell flat on their face or how to say sorry
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: or all that kind of stuff.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you. You're adorable. And you're so, so funny. And
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I know we'll work again.
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  Speaker 3: did not.
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