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Screen to Speed No.29: Victoria Thomson: Champion of Global eSport Games Qualifiers · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Welcome in everybody.
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Happy to see you on any talks today.
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Hope you're doing well.
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Uh, we have in today, Victoria Thompson with us.
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Uh, she's a sim racer.
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Uh, she won screen to speed at the Dark Sim Racing Expo.
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So welcome Victoria.
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Hello.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for the invitation.
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Yeah.
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Thank you so much for taking your time and, uh, I have this,
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uh, wonderful stream with us.
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Um, so let's start with, uh, how do you get into sim racing?
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How you start?
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Well, um, for me, I would say I started with a set a course of one kind of, I
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mean, what, what actually is sim racing?
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When I would say I started more.
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playing video games on computer than maybe it was Gran Turismo 4, I think, on the
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PlayStation, a few years ago, actually.
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But I would say really into simracing, um, AC1, when I at least got a
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more professional simracing wheel.
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And I really started simracing basically with ACC like in 2019,
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2020, something around that.
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Joined a community and Well, from that time on, SCC, at least for me, I know
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there's differences between SCC iRacing and other simulators, but, um, on SCC
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I felt like home on the very first day, and for, like, four years ago,
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my simracing career kind of started.
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That's great.
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I remember that I, uh, also kind of started from Assetto
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Corsa, uh, the first one.
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Uh, but before that, I also did some, you know, racing
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games, uh, also racing race 07.
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That's the old Air Factor 1.
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So I'll prepare for some racing game, uh, racing, um, events, uh, on this one.
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Um, you mentioned that you get your first wheel.
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Can you tell more about it?
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What was it?
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Yeah.
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Um, I think my first more professional wheel basically
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was a complete Fanatec set.
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Um, it was the Club Sport wheelbase V2.
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5 with the bigger BMW rim and I think the V2 or V3 pedals.
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And basically it's never really changed in that last 10 years.
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I think I got it like 20, 12 to 15, somewhere around there.
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Mm-Hmm.
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. And before that, I mean everyone had like that Logitech one.
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So, um, on AC one I raised with, I think I ruined two G 25 wheels and the G 27.
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And after the, the G 27, I moved to the Fantech rims and I think
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20 20, 21, something around there.
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I moved to the podium set from Fantech and that's basically my set right now.
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So I'm still with Fanatec.
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That's great.
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Uh, how do you feel to switch from, uh, like entry level equipment
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to the, uh, high end equipment?
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How was it for you?
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Um, Um, a lot think with high equipment, more pace or something is coming,
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I would say even on a G25 or 27 or something, you can be very quick
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with entry level sim racing gear.
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Personally, I would say with, um, for example, now a DD2 or the bigger,
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um, direct drive wheels, I just got more consistency into the races.
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So I was able to just pull out every lap the same lap times
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or nearly the same lap times.
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And with that consistency, I think even more speed was coming.
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But I wouldn't say that I'm much faster or that I was faster with, um, entry
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level wheel or that I'm faster right now with, um, higher equipped wheel.
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Um, So I would say I love my wheel it really gives I love the strength.
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So right now I'm at 15 12 to 15 newton meters something around there
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and the races which is physically Kind of hard to to race more than
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like four hours a few weeks ago.
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I did Uh four hours race on the nordschleife Um in a row so without
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the brakes and I would say after four hours with 12 to 15 newton meters
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It's kind of heavy, but it's also that Typical thing like, um, it's not a
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real workout, but you you just love to have more than the typical two and
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a half To five newt meters, but um still it's it's not making me fast.
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It's just more immersive stuff That's what's the kind of worth for me the
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price Yeah, that's a really cool thing that you, um, noticed that you didn't,
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uh, feel that you're, like, a lot faster, you're more consistent with
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the higher end, uh, equipment, but, uh, definitely, it's really good to start from
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something, uh, we're talking on Unitalks a lot about this, uh, that everybody
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should have an opportunity to jump into our, uh, like, to sim racing, yeah?
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And, uh, with whatever equipment they got, and I think it's a really important thing.
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Um, what are you doing, uh, with, uh, so what's your routine for the
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practice when you, um, Uh, preparing for events, for big events in sim racing.
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Depends on what kind of races.
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Um, usually depends on the, the race that I'm racing and the duration I'm
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double to three times the time the race time is, um, I put into practice.
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So if we're racing a 24 hour race, I'll have, um, somewhere around 48 hours
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plus on practice before the actual race.
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And I'm trying to, well, I'm trying to have a setup that's feeling comfortable.
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I know that sometimes you just can min max the settings or something
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that you have like some tweaks that makes you extremely fast.
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But for me personally, it's a lot more important to have a car that just feels
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comfortable that every lap I know, even if I'm not on the like, mental top state
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right now in the lap, if you're racing for an hour or two, maybe double stinting,
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and you're doing a small mistake.
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Um, I need to set up that, uh, knows that I can excuse that for example,
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um, that's not completely on the edge.
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And from that point on, I'm trying to get up my consistency.
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So I'm trying to have, um, practice evenings.
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I'm trying to, um, redo all the practice conditions if we
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know them before, otherwise I'm trying to, um, do some races.
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And even there, if I know it's an endurance race, I'm more
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practicing on my own because I'm trying to get just in my routine.
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Teen in my flow and if I know it's sprint races then i'm trying to do a
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lot like public lobbies to avoid the the Yeah, the mock ups in the, in the
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beginning, the, the chaos, um, because in sprint races, if you spin out in T1,
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then you don't have the time to gain the time again in the, during the race.
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So, um, it depends on what I'm racing, if I'm doing more like casual lobbies
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or if I'm practicing for My own, or for example, with teammates, um, to
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have a little bit, um, dirty air, also multi class racing, also different, um,
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because then the pace difference in the cars is what we are trying to simulate.
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So a friend is joining the slower car, depending on the corner.
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We're trying to practice that, but how it's a, basically it's.
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Just like having fun.
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That's the most important thing.
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And even in the practice times, I'm pretty sure if some of my teammates will see
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that, um, maybe afterwards, um, they know that I can get emotional while training,
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but it's like letting all emotions out before the actual race and in the race.
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I know it's also, I mean, sometimes we have emotions, that's completely normal
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for racers, but, um, I'm trying to just push me to Every race before the
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actual race is starting to more than a hundred percent to have like my a
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hundred percent performance in the race.
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That's basically kind of the practice I'm doing before and
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also to get a mental state on.
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Yeah, that's a good thing.
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Uh, I also try and to still stay cold blooded when I'm doing races, uh,
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like official races or big events.
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Um, of course everybody can be emotional, as you said, I think it's absolutely okay.
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Um, What do you like the most in endurance races because you mentioned
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that you're doing endurance races and sprint races as well So would like to
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know what you prefer in endurance races.
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What's the best about them?
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Yeah, well as as you said, I'm personally I prefer endurance
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races Because, uh, it's not about always being the quickest person.
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It's about the being the consistent person over a very long time, being one with
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the car for more than just 30 minutes.
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And I mean, I also do strength races.
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They are also a great competition, even a higher competition than endurance races.
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But, um, I mean, even if it's sim racing and the car is not really
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breaking down, sometimes you have like technical issues, everything
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that's bringing sim racing with you.
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But for me, it's driving hours for hours, the same pace or nearly on
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being focused for over a long time.
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That's, um, Something I personally love also with um having the time with friends
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for example doing the spotting for guys doing the setup work Doing the strategy
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even the complete thing about strategy in endurance races is something that I
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completely could Go into detail because I really love doing the strategy and
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for the rest, it's Just keeping your focus for such a long time on a state
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where you say it after that, you, you seem like, or you, you feel how you're
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getting exhausted without getting to know that you're exhausted after a few hours.
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And for example, I personally loved, uh, the night stints and in real time between
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two and 5 AM, when the happy time is going to start, like everyone's tired now.
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Um, usually you're, Sometimes alone on the rig, or we at least try to be two
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with one backup in the rig or in the race.
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But, um, you're basically alone driving through the night, everyone's starting
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to do mistakes because you're getting, you're zooming out because you're doing
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the same thing like for 14 to 16 hours.
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But still, I don't know that to keep there the maximum performance,
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um, to like every time you're tired as fuck, whatever, it's still
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And that's what is endurance racing for me.
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Endurance is really special.
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Uh, and I think the endurance racing, uh, also bring a lot of people into some
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racing because, uh, many people like they not doing any official races or leagues.
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They just jumping into special events, like in a set of course, competition
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in, in iRacing, for example, as well.
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Um, so what was your highlights?
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Uh, Endurance event for you.
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What was the best result, the best race, which you remember?
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Well, the best race, it wasn't the best race that I remember, but I
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really remember one race that kept in my mind for still for today.
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Um, it was, I think two to three years ago, um, when sim racing was just
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coming up in Corona and all that stuff.
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Um, I did a race with a few friends with Chris Samir and Jadia and, um,
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it was my first time with Jadia in a car and we had, um, I think two
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and a half thousand live viewers.
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Right now and I was a little bit nervous And the first thing I did was I got
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out of the box tires were cold and I just smashed the car into um after
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radio and Into the world in front of two and a half thousand people that
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for me It was a moment that um, I mean you need to get back in the car And I
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even had two hours of stints in front of me, but I know I crashed the car.
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I messed up p1 But A few people were watching, few, and to get up there,
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the, the, the, like emotional stability.
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Um, that was something that I remember until today because you
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still need to get back into the car.
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You need to be, um, you, we can't just stop.
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We repaired the car.
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And after that, I just needed to drive again because it was the only
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person who was driving right now.
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And.
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Knowing that you have a lot of people watching you knowing that
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you messed up the p1 for the team I think in the end we made p2.
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Um in a I think it was a 24 hour race in Maybe sim grid.
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I'm not sure which race it was But the 24 hour race in spa and I mean like
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two years ago three years ago still a great experience and I would say
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that race to keep up there the the mentality and still get back in the
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car to trust the car in every Eau Rouge and Radeon when you're entering that
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and you know you just smashed it once.
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Make it simple and as we all know if you lift the car there, shouldn't, shouldn't
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be the best way and um, if you get scared for something, even if it's sim
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racing, then um, you're getting slow.
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and well as I said again the the endurance races that Type of racing the
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type of mentality that you need there.
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That's what really brought me forward and which still is in my mind so endurance
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is like Push you to go because you got a team next to you And you also like even
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if you crash you really want to finish the race because you learn everything other
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people plan This race to do it with you.
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So yeah, I fully understand you in this So speaking about sprint events, and I
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know that you recently Won the screen to speed at the Dark Sim Racing Expo.
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Can you tell me more about this event?
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How was it for you?
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How did it feel?
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That was, uh, uh, to be a part of the big sim racing expo and of this event as well.
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And how was it for you to take a part in sprint event?
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Absolutely.
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Um, I mean, um, we were talking about endurance races and now we're
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switching to the sprint races.
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I'm completely not common to sprint races, but it was more than just
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an honor to race into that race.
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And even to, to win that, I, I never thought about it and still until now, I,
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if I would tell myself, um, you're going to race it again, I would say I'm pretty
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sure I won't, uh, win that again, because iRacing is not my, my main simulation.
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Um, I have like two race, two rank races in iRacing, I have an account, but it
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never felt like the simulation that I want to race because I have no content.
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Um, I had.
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No licenses and stuff.
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And, um, when I got asked if I want to race there, I was
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like, okay, I need to practice.
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I need to download the iRacing.
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I need to download everything around it.
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And then I started to practice, as I said, um, for, for the sprint stuff.
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So I tried to do some, um, open lobby races.
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I tried some practice runs and getting there is, I don't know.
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Everything was kind of overwhelming.
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I, so far, I haven't done any races, um, live on a stage or at least on.
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somewhere and the complete situation was new.
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It was, as I said, overwhelming, but, um, it was more than just a great
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experience because I know that from all the experience that I've made in
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the last years over the time and in sim racing, um, I could use it because.
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In the SimRig itself, I, like, I was in my own zone.
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I could cancel out everything that was around and just focus on, on the car, on,
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on the girls next to me, even knowing they were actually really sitting next to me
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and you could look over to them, like, um, what are their feelings right now?
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How are they feeling?
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How are they driving?
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Um, How will the race end, for example, in the next minutes?
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But, um, still right now going through that race, it's
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Because I never thought with the, like, circumstances that I had On site race,
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iRacing completely new to me Formulkas, I've never done a Formulka race I think,
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even in the first race, it's Maybe some some noticed it when it got into the the
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grid I realized that i've never practiced a standing start with the formal four
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with a clutch And we didn't have the clutch pedals on on the steering wheel.
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So with like the real clutch on the foot and I was just standing there
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like, uh, okay, how, how to do that?
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I know what I should do with my double clutches at home.
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But when, when I came there, it's like, okay, shall we just smash it?
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Then I had to wheel spin as hell.
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And I saw that the other girls just coming up because they, I'm pretty sure
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they then they've done in their practice sessions, at least some race starts.
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And I took the second race.
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Or the practice for the second race, also to practice some race starts, but
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that was like, I've never thought about practicing, um, the start actually
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from the starting grid or the standing start in a Formula Four, because it's
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not my, my sim or not my, my cars.
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And I know there's, um, I think a safety car in, in Irising where
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you have the rolling starts.
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If they would have done that, I had no idea what to do.
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That would be some very, uh, Let's say some interesting stats, but
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good thing everything worked out.
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Um, in the end I worked I won by points at the first race.
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I won the second race.
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I think I made third Still awesome races.
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I've never thought that it got so close on on the first three to four people
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Um because I never saw myself somewhere in the front And I really got It.
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I'm, I mean, those were really great races.
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We had very close fights.
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Um, we had a little context maybe due to, I was not used to the mirrors and
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the, the completely I racing views.
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Um, I had my spotter turned off because I, I'm new to I racing, I'm
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sorry, , but still, it, it worked out.
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I had fun and right now let's see what, what the future brings and maybe it
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opens some doors for some other races.
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Uh, yeah, let's see.
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Yeah, once again, congrats with P1 in this event, uh, as there
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was really huge, the biggest event in sim racing, uh, which we got.
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Um, uh, I know that you're going to get the testing at Nordschleife
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as your prize and can you tell me, are you excited about this?
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Maybe you're thinking how it's going to happen and did you have any in
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real life experience in racing?
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To be honest, um, I can't wait to race.
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Race car.
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I'm not, uh, having any information or most of the information is still pending.
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Um, so we are in the discussions when it will happen because right now going
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to the Nordschleife is like, I'm pretty sure it could be a little bit dangerous.
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Um, even in a normal street car, maybe, I don't know what's, what's going to be
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there, but, um, I I'm happy about it.
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I can't wait for it.
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And, um, for the real racing experience so far, I've raced in an AMG.
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Um, the Shiroko Cup R and a few Audi R8 V10s with, um, street tires and
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slicks, but not, um, build up there.
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It's the, the highest thing I've driven was the NG GT4.
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Um, so I have some experiences, but as everything was on a private racetrack
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or airfield, um, I wouldn't say that I'm really experienced in high competition
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cars or in real car racing, but, um, I'm doing cart racing, um, also did there
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a real life 24 hour race with the team and experience at least some kind of
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24 hour endurance races, also did the sprint races, um, and the last company
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I've worked at, we had a, um, karting competition over the completely year
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where I, basically also won against 51 other guys and um still was able to to
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get the crown but we had also like that all kind of um racing rules with 85 kilos
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as ballast of performance so if you're lighter and a few of us were lighter
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you're getting ballast into the cart that we are leveled out with that so we really
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try to have a very high competition and as in sim racing it's outstanding to
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to be part of Real racing sim racing, it's kind of the same thing, having the
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racecraft from so many thousands of hours in a CC, it's, I love racing and I can't
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wait to have the, the opportunity thanks to screen, to speed and, and in it and
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all the people working here, um, to, to get me into the car and let's see what's,
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I mean, it's a notch life Who don't want to race on the notch life and a race car?
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Not sure.
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So, uh, you, you race Nordschleife, I'm pretty sure in the SED Corsa, yeah, um,
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is it your favorite track or not really?
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Because, uh, you know, for me, Nordschleife, uh, that's the track where
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I can, uh, spend some time because I was working in, um, a sim racing center as a
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coach and as a manager of the location.
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And I remember that I was spending, uh, you know, just, uh, To spend some time
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on Nordschleife because it's really long and you just like can be here for
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15 minutes 20 or something like this So do you do free laps and then go home?
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So how is it for you?
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Do you like this track or do you?
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Like not really your favorite.
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So we got other track as your favorite one.
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Mm hmm.
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Um, I would say It is one of the favorites, but not the favorite racetrack.
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Um, as favorite racetrack, don't ask me why I'm personally having Brands Hatch
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because I love the techniques there.
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It's like a small Nordschleife, but, uh, as a German, as the most extreme
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racetrack that you can have somewhere, I would say Nordschleife is the
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racetrack to, to practice the most.
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You're learning so much At the Nordschleife and it's also so dangerous
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that to be honest I'm a little bit frightened to to be there knowing
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you're racing a race car Um, you know the track from the simulator, you
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know, if there's something going to happen you basically as everyone says
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Um, you just hit escape and go back to pits and start again in real life.
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It's something different but I would say the um You The, the elevation that you can
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have on the Nordschleife, everything that you have there is like, it's, I would say
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that the best race track, but personally, I haven't driven there on the real race
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or on the real Nordschleife in real life.
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So, well, also not in Brands Hatch, but I don't want to judge
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which one is the very best.
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Personally, I love the Nordschleife, but I think, um, for example,
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Silverstone or Brands Hatch are tracks that I could also race the whole day.
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Don't ask me why.
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Yeah.
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I think that Brands Hatch is one of the best tracks, to be honest.
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I'm a big fan of, you know, narrow tracks with elevation changes.
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Like, Road Atlanta, I really like this track.
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Many people on stream are joking about this, because I just, I
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really like to race this track.
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And they're like, oh, you again at Road Atlanta, oh no.
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Something like this.
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So yeah, I fully understand you with Brands Hatch, I think it's a, it's
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a great track to race, especially with GT3s and in a set of course
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competition, it's really fun track.
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So that's cool.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So would you say, um, is, is, um, if you could decide on one racetrack,
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I'm not sure which um, uh, real life experiences on your side are, but.
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If the experiences that you've maybe made from, um, real car racing, sim
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racing, um, the instructor you did on the Nordschleife, um, which car
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track combination would you say is something that you would live for?
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If you could wish yourself something, what track and car combination would
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you like to race and what type of race?
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Oh, that, that will be, uh, Porsche Cup, uh, and Road Atlanta 100
25:50
percent because I real life Porsche Cup in a racing, I would love that.
25:54
Love to try it in real life if I ever going to have a opportunity for that.
25:59
And road Atlanta for me is like one of the best track on this planet.
26:04
And I really like it.
26:05
Uh, speaking about in real life experience, I race, uh, four more cars.
26:10
Uh, so I'm not really into.
26:12
GT cars.
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Um, so yeah, I think that would be a great experience to, to have an
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opportunity to race maybe Porsche Cup one day, something like this.
26:22
Um, can you tell me, you, um, mentioned that you race, uh,
26:27
in real life, uh, some cars.
26:28
Can you tell me the feelings?
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How can you compare them to what you, um, feeling in sim racing?
26:35
Is it really close or not?
26:37
Because, you know, just many people, uh, that's like.
26:39
Top question for everybody.
26:41
I think they asking all the time about this.
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Yeah, I would say it depends, um, what you're trying to compare.
26:49
I mean, as we all know, you don't have the G forces in the simulator.
26:54
You can have like that, uh, actuaries are ultimate.
26:56
Stuff where you have a five axle thing where you really can feel drops and
27:01
something like that, but pressing use In into the seat belts when braking a car
27:07
like the ng gt4 or also the audis Um, it's something that you don't feel in Uh in the
27:15
simulator But on my first days, when, when I got an instructor next to me, I'm racing
27:21
in that, um, R8 V10 that was a street car, basically with, um, the crashing
27:28
frame and slicks, uh, for example, on, on the second one where we had to, uh,
27:33
rear wheel drive, um, the person next to me, uh, which was a former DTM.
27:38
Driver asked me after like three laps.
27:41
I mean, we, we went out to the track and I didn't know the car.
27:43
I've never driven a car with over 600 horsepower and I got overwhelmed by
27:48
the speed that you gain in a very short time because it's not the monitor.
27:51
It's you really getting pressed into the seat.
27:54
But, um, after getting the, the.
27:56
to know the car like a few corners, um, everything's pulled in the head,
28:01
like, like in the simulator kind of.
28:04
And the instructor sitting next to me was after three laps, like, he just sat there,
28:10
watched me and was asking, and you're really just doing sim racing, do you?
28:14
And I was like, yeah, why, uh, what am I doing wrong?
28:17
And he was like, n nothing.
28:20
The, the thing is you're breaking the car, you're steering into the corner
28:25
and then you are holding the steering angle and you're just turning the
28:28
car by throttle and brake inputs.
28:31
And that's driving styles that guys are, that people have with cutting
28:36
experience for 15 years or more.
28:38
And I'm just doing sim racing, but I have also like.
28:42
Hours and years of practice, um, recalculated kind of for, for real racing.
28:49
It's just that you feel everything by the steering wheel.
28:52
I mean, we are used to steering wheels and I even told the person that i'm not really
28:57
Interested in what the car is giving me through the seat or what the car really
29:02
is doing Um behind me or in front of me I feel like everything in the wheel because
29:07
we are trained to feel everything in the steering wheel And I would say it's for
29:13
sure you can't compare real racing and sim racing and I would also say it's It's not
29:18
good to compare those as the same thing or something that you want to compare.
29:22
I would say it's completely two But it's two different.
29:25
Um Botch categories, maybe two different things But everything that you learn
29:32
in sim racing you can somehow compare in real racing or you can use The the
29:37
race intelligence, you know, the the Um, if you, if the car, for example,
29:43
is slipping, if you have a slip angle, or if you're close to a spin, you know
29:48
instinctively what to do with the wheel.
29:49
So you have something that you've practiced as a routine over years
29:54
and hours in sim racing, and you can use that in real racing.
29:58
At least I would say.
29:59
I mean, if we look in Formula 1, Max Verstappen is also a very good
30:03
sim racer, and I'm pretty sure that everything that he's practicing in
30:07
sim racing, he can bring into real racing and the other way around.
30:11
So, um, the conclusion I would say is, you can't compare both, but
30:18
everything that you're learning is usable in both situations,
30:23
if that's kind of answering it.
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Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.
30:27
So you got really good, uh, base skills, which you learn in some racing
30:31
and, uh, you can transfer them to real life racing, uh, without any issues.
30:36
I think you just need some time to get used to, uh, G forces.
30:40
Yeah.
30:41
That you like moving in the real car.
30:43
Uh, but, uh, yeah, you know, articles, which I read about some racers who first
30:48
time get into, uh, the racing track, uh, absolutely the same as you said.
30:53
So just, uh, You know what to do, actually.
30:56
You get into the car and you already know how it's working,
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and that's the main thing.
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So you don't need, like, a lot of time to get used to everything.
31:06
And it's really cool about sim racing, and really nice that for some people that
31:12
sim racing can be the starting point, like karting was for me, for example.
31:18
Um, so it's cool, because it's more open for everybody as well.
31:22
simracing.
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com
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I mean, sim racing is affordable.
31:27
It's, I would say that the better, or it's the other wave of motorsport.
31:32
Motorsport is expensive and dangerous.
31:35
I would say just, but if we put all that on renewable, sustainable topics, On the
31:41
side, I would say that the main thing in sim racing is, it's not dangerous and
31:47
it's more affordable for nearly everyone.
31:51
Even knowing that sim racing is a very expensive sport compared to,
31:55
I would say, usual sports or usual eSports, where you need the keyboard,
31:59
a monitor, gaming PC you already have.
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But in sim racing, I would say you can put in so much money, But still, it's
32:09
way more affordable than a real car.
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Because if you crash your real car once, you have a crashed car.
32:14
Sim racing, it's a little bit cheaper, I would say.
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Yeah, crashes are free.
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That's the main thing.
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Uh, and definitely you can get into sim racing.
32:24
So entry level is a really low with a budget, of course.
32:29
And I would like to say that I noticed that races in sim racing, which I'm
32:34
doing in a racing, I'm usually racing top split and they more competitive
32:40
than races, which I had in real life.
32:42
Uh, just because in real life you're really limited, not a lot of people
32:46
getting into the series and it's not that competitive compared to sim racing
32:51
and because we're getting a lot of people here is just, you know, can be,
32:55
uh, for example, Porsche championship, which got in a racing and, uh, everybody
33:00
like 20, 30 people, they want in one second to everybody that that's crazy.
33:09
Funny thing, um, that's something I also recognized.
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Um, two weeks ago.
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I was at the FIA motorsport games in Valencia and I also saw there, um,
33:18
the sim races and the real races and personally or my personal opinion on the
33:24
real races was I mean that's very easily said and I know, um, I don't want to be
33:30
too provocative, um around them But I would say the sim racers had The more
33:36
interesting races to watch even if they were looking more Like more perfection.
33:42
They were racing just car by car and no mistakes in the real races Um for sure
33:47
you had a few guys that were leaning on each other even in the gt cars It's a
33:52
different type of racing, but it felt more like a a Kind of a childish racing
33:58
as the race intelligence was different compared to the sim racing I have no idea
34:03
how it is in the car And I'm pretty sure I would also drive a lot worse in a real
34:09
race car than I would do in a simulator but um the the races itself to watch how
34:16
The guys are racing how they're leaning on others Um, I will personally say some
34:20
stewards in simracing would even kick you out of track if you are behaving like
34:24
that, what I've seen on the real races.
34:26
And I really appreciate every real racer that is doing that.
34:29
But I also want to say to, to all people watching, kind of give simracing a chance
34:36
and try to step into that perfection of racing that you're seeing there and
34:40
appreciate what they are actually doing.
34:43
It's that that was a very big point for me to see that in valencia.
34:47
Yeah, it's a really high level right now It's racing as you mentioned.
34:51
I absolutely agree with you and Just because uh, it's competitive.
34:56
We got a lot of people.
34:57
Uh, it's also really high level So no wonder if we would have um Like, the same
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amount of people racing in real life, we would have the same kind of level
35:09
and the same competitive races as well.
35:12
But unfortunately, not everybody got the opportunity to get into real life
35:15
racing because it's just crazy expensive and it's really hard to get into it.
35:20
Get sponsors to get it.
35:21
Uh, like even if you're getting good results, that's not, uh, Not mean that
35:27
you're going to get sponsors to sponsor you for your career and you'll get
35:32
forwards into the racing Um, so yeah, it's a kind of sad thing About racing.
35:37
Uh, but uh, on the other side we got some racing where we
35:40
can, um, race and, uh, have fun.
35:44
And also I really enjoyed to watch, uh, broadcast, uh, some racing races.
35:50
Uh, they're really fun to watch, like everybody, uh, really close
35:54
with the gaps and doing the same lines, the same breaking points.
35:58
It's, uh, it's wonderful.
35:59
I agree with you in this.
36:00
Yeah, absolutely.
36:02
And still, I also love the real racing topic.
36:06
And, um, if I could choose between both, or at least I never hope to
36:11
choose between both because I would love both categories in sports.
36:16
But, um, as you said, I mean, real motorsport is in the first
36:20
point for me, it's dangerous.
36:22
And it can hurt you a lot if something's going wrong, and I really feel that
36:28
that kind of fear is for sure in simracing not, not the main topic, but
36:33
even then, it's more interesting to see that the simracers are so much on
36:37
the edge and still racing like hell.
36:40
I mean, they also crashing sometimes, but, um, to see that.
36:44
That kind of difference in in the skills in in real racing with fear and I really
36:50
have deeply respect for those who can Kind of get off that kind of fear in the car
36:56
and really race like a sim racer would do.
36:58
Um And right now we're again compare, um comparing real racing and sim racing But
37:05
it's just it's two so so outstanding types of sports that I still love both and I
37:11
couldn't could talk about ours Yeah, true.
37:16
I agree with you.
37:17
So I still remember how I get into the car thing.
37:20
I was like 10 or 11 years old and I was like, Oh my God, I'm just, I'm
37:25
so afraid of the speed or something.
37:27
Uh, it was, uh, yeah.
37:29
Uh, so you just, uh, trying to, um, make the step forward, you just
37:35
trying to get through this fear and, uh, then you getting fast lap times.
37:39
But on the same side, I can tell you that sometimes I got situations in some
37:44
racing where I'm feeling like, my God, like, you know, I'm just feeling like
37:49
I'm like, it's happening in real life.
37:52
It's, it's crazy.
37:53
So your brain thinks like, We go into crash or someone go into
37:57
crashes, something like this.
37:58
So, and you feel, uh, the same fear as in real life.
38:01
So it's, uh, kind of interesting.
38:06
Yeah, absolutely.
38:07
As I said in the beginning, in the first story, like, um, when I crashed the car,
38:11
um, and the judges dream after that, I really was frightened about that.
38:16
Corner combination.
38:17
I really was scared to go flat out through a rouge.
38:21
And I mean, it's sim racing.
38:23
If I crash again, who cares?
38:25
It's not hurting me, but the mental issues or the pressure to know that
38:30
you have a team behind you that have practiced for it, that you don't
38:33
want to, um, I don't know, you, you don't want to let them down.
38:37
You don't want to get the car into repairs for hours.
38:40
That's something.
38:42
I would say a completely different level of fear, because there are a
38:46
lot of people hoping for you, knowing that also in a real race car, there is
38:52
a complete team setting up the cars, they are flying there, they have spent
38:56
a lot of money just to get the car there, and you know, crashing into the
38:59
wall, it's like wasting so much money.
39:02
But still, the pressure and the fear and I'm sometimes I'm really scared even
39:07
in sim racing, if you're really getting into it, have a triple screen or even
39:12
VR players in VR, if you're racing, or if you're crashing into the wall, pretty
39:17
sure that makes something with you.
39:19
Yeah.
39:22
You know, I got triple screen and even it was triple screen sometimes like, I
39:26
really, you know, just into the race.
39:29
So I just, uh, Yeah.
39:32
Kind of, uh, don't, don't feel like I'm sitting in a room or something like this.
39:36
So I'm really into this racing car and yeah, it can be, uh, really,
39:41
really scary sometimes, and, uh, I can imagine that people in VR got
39:45
really, um, you know, good impression, uh, with the crashes, with everything
39:50
which happening in some racing.
39:54
Absolutely.
39:54
I mean, I also got triples and I tried VR a few years ago.
40:00
I think I had the Oculus, uh, the CB1.
40:03
Back in the day in the days.
40:05
That's like really know a few years, but I stayed with triples.
40:09
Um Because I always have the feeling it it still gives me enough for sure You don't
40:14
have that distance checking that you have in VR and that you really can feel like
40:19
being into the car But then you also have like expensive wheels They are flashing
40:25
and you have all that information that I wouldn't see if I'm racing in VR So
40:30
I think it's Type of something that you personally like the preferences, but I
40:35
also would like to stay with with triples and so far I'm not planning to go to VR
40:41
Maybe also being scared of driving into the wall and getting even more scared.
40:46
Yeah, also as you mentioned you doing A lot of endurance races, yeah, in my
40:51
opinion, uh, VR is more for the sprint races, uh, because, um, you know, you're
40:56
going to sweat and it's not going to be comfortable to race, uh, for, for hours.
41:01
Um, so personally, I absolutely agree with you, the triple, uh, in that,
41:06
Circumstances a lot better, um, as you can do long scenes without any issues
41:11
and, uh, you don't have to worry that your eyes are going to be tired and
41:16
you will sweat in the VR headset.
41:19
Um, but the VR give, uh, really good, um, you know, just feelings, emotions.
41:24
It's really cool.
41:25
I tried once there was the Oculus Rift, uh, the first version of it.
41:29
Um, it was really nice.
41:31
So my dream is one day to try a better VR.
41:35
headset and iRacing, maybe, because I didn't try VR and iRacing.
41:40
I'm just really curious about this.
41:44
Yeah, me too.
41:46
Can't wait.
41:46
I tested Apple Vision Pro a few weeks ago and I mean, technology is awesome.
41:53
I know it's not a VR headset for racing and all topics, but But, um,
41:58
I would love to see a headset, uh, VR racing that's still just letting
42:03
out exactly our wheels, our hands, so that we really sit into the car.
42:08
So it's kind of a mix of an AR.
42:11
Um, headset that's allowing to see what you need to see, getting everything, um,
42:17
else that you don't need rid of, but, um, not that complete throughput that
42:22
you have on, I think the, what is that Rift 3 or something, um, Quest 3, um, I
42:28
think they, a few of them, of the modern ones have the, the, um, the throughput,
42:33
but, um, then you see everything around.
42:35
And I would love to see something that's, like, if you're wearing
42:39
some special suit or something, that just that is in the simulator.
42:43
If that's already possible, I'm sorry, I don't know everything, um, but that
42:49
would be something I really want to test.
42:51
That would be cool, I think.
42:52
Yeah, kind of mixed reality I think will be awesome, uh, because as you said
42:57
the VR, uh, unfortunately cutting the opportunity to see your real, uh, wheel
43:01
which you got and sometimes you got really expensive like a Fanatec wheel or, um, I
43:06
don't know, GSI, something like this and you really want to see this buttons and
43:11
everything, uh, so yeah, and unfortunately VR cut this opportunity from you.
43:15
Yeah.
43:15
I mean, you're paying so much for a wheel with the display and
43:21
then you can't see the display.
43:22
It's like, I don't know, maybe stay with triples.
43:26
Oh, yeah.
43:27
So moving forward, can you tell me, how do you feel to be a female
43:31
sim racer in male sim racing?
43:36
So how do you feel about this?
43:38
Is community friendly to you?
43:40
Or you had some toxic moments or something like this?
43:46
Um, basically.
43:48
I would say I had no toxic moments being a female or being male um
43:53
in in one big family I would say.
43:57
It's like being toxic between racers because under the Heimat I would say we
44:01
all are just racers in Every kind of way.
44:06
Um, I see that we are quite less women in In sim racing, but um, I think it's also
44:14
cars and uh car enthusiasts Is not that a female dominated thing but um I love
44:21
to see if women are around how supportive they are to Each other because there are
44:26
not much and we are supporting each other.
44:29
We Show that we are in sim racing and for sure it's a male dominated world But
44:35
in the end everything everyone before the computer I would say I don't see
44:41
If we wouldn't have our cameras on, um, I wouldn't see if I'm racing against a
44:45
male racing against a female, I'm just racing against a person and that's what
44:50
I also love in sim racing because there is not that, um, I would say physical
44:55
differences like in real racing that, um, maybe some are stronger, some are
44:59
weaker, but But, um, I would say I, I love the, the female empowerment kind
45:05
of, if you see another girl on the street, even for example, I'm racing or
45:09
I'm driving a motorbike in real life.
45:11
If you see another girl, um, biker, you're just waving, you're happy, you
45:16
just enjoy the moment that you've seen someone like you on a motorbike or
45:21
in sim racing on the karting track.
45:24
But what I also see is.
45:26
If you are an, um, in the minority on the race track, um, you also see that, uh,
45:31
the competition between the persons that are racing there, or that are in that
45:36
competition is also a little bit higher or more tense because there are not much.
45:41
So you're competing also in a, um, smaller group of people.
45:46
And then you have a kind of different competition.
45:49
I would say, even if we have like the big competition, the big race.
45:52
Um, but so far I would say, um, um,
45:57
Pressures everywhere, um, you have moments of panic.
46:01
toxic relations in every kind of sport, in every kind of gender,
46:06
in every kind of car and team.
46:09
So I would say that's, that's motorsport.
46:12
Everything is kind of emotional.
46:15
Yeah, that's true.
46:16
I agree with you.
46:17
Also had some, uh, Toxic stuff in, uh, in the racing races sometimes and, uh,
46:23
but most of the stuff which happened with me in SimRacing, uh, especially
46:28
I'm talking about the racing because most of the time in this, uh, in this
46:32
simulator, um, People really supportive.
46:36
They really try to help you with some advices.
46:40
Uh, they're really really nice and it's it's really cool because um, We can have
46:47
the same thing like in other esports.
46:50
Yeah Uh, so other esports can be a bit more toxic compared to some racing So
46:55
we've been talking about other communities in the set of course competition and
47:00
other simulators also And Everybody like trying to uh, guide you through
47:06
your journey and to show you How to do some racing and help you and you
47:12
can find team really fast if you want to do endurances You can find like a
47:17
supporter for almost if you're doing them.
47:20
It's it's nice.
47:21
Yeah,
47:23
absolutely I would say sim racing or at least gaming um is And very
47:29
open world, you can find a home.
47:32
Um, the thing that is important for me, I would say is being an open person.
47:37
It doesn't really depend on what kind of gender you have for sure.
47:41
It's important to show which kind of.
47:44
People and characters we have in racing.
47:46
And I'm very glad that we have so many different types and persons
47:50
and personalities in racing and, or in gaming and racing.
47:56
And, um, I think it's also important to stand out.
47:59
Who we have, but for me, most of the thing is about the character that a person is
48:04
bringing into the team, into the sport.
48:07
And I would say support that kind of character.
48:11
And I would say that's, that's the most important thing to appreciate
48:15
the characters and support them.
48:18
Um, what do you think, how can we bring more girls into some
48:22
racing into racing as well?
48:23
Um, so what's your, your opinion about this?
48:29
I would say the girls that want to race in racing, um, we need to see where we
48:34
can approach them and get them trained up kind of, I mean, as I said in the
48:40
beginning, under the helmet or in front of the monitors, we all are racers.
48:46
And I would love to see if we found a lot of more of these girls, if we can support
48:51
them, if we are not just pushing them into the market, if we push them into
48:55
the market, Um, with, with the support that they really can compete with others.
49:01
And I would say bringing everyone on, on a very good level.
49:05
That's something that we really can do.
49:07
And what we are all trying here to, to support the females or to
49:13
support the women in, in, in racing.
49:15
And, um, I think even if it's a male dominated world, um, we have interested
49:21
girls and we just need to be there to show them that simracing is one of the
49:26
things that you can do if you want.
49:29
And if you want, what do you need?
49:31
I mean, is it the mentality that you need?
49:33
Is it the pace?
49:34
Is it consistency?
49:35
Is it bringing you in, in racing games, um, overall?
49:39
Is it, um, about the setup?
49:42
I mean, in the end, a race is a race, and we just need to get them, like,
49:47
on pace, and see to, uh, if we can get them competitive with others.
49:53
Yeah, I think, uh, what do you need doing, uh, for Female, uh, for girls in
49:59
simracing, it's, it's really cool, uh, because more girls you're going to see,
50:03
like, uh, you just I would love to race in SimRacing then, uh, by the end of
50:08
the day, because you can see all these girls, they're racing, you're like,
50:12
Oh, I want to be like her, yeah, jump into SimRace and, and race, uh, with,
50:17
uh, whatever person, like, if it's, uh, guys or girls, it doesn't matter.
50:23
Uh, so I, I would, I I was in the same way as you with my
50:29
opinion about in real life racing.
50:31
So when someone asked me about like, how do you feel to be a girl?
50:36
I'm like, I'm just a person behind the helmet.
50:38
I'm just a driver and everybody doing the same stuff here.
50:42
So when we equal because In my opinion, I think that, uh, yeah, physical, uh,
50:49
thing is not really, uh, important, especially if we're talking about sim
50:52
racing, because you can set up the force feedback in the way you like.
50:55
And, um, it's, it's great.
50:58
So I think we got a lot of opportunities now, and I hope
51:00
we're going to see more girls and more, uh, boys also in sim racing.
51:06
Absolutely.
51:07
I mean, sim racing for me is.
51:10
Really personal talking a sim racing is like everything I really love sim racing
51:15
It's it's my passion and I'm trying to get my business related topics to sim racing
51:19
my private topics to sim racing or at least racing and overall The automotive
51:24
industry and stuff, but I'm getting Overall speaking, more people into racing,
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I would love to see if whoever is watching this and sees I want to simrace too now,
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or maybe I am already simracing, and maybe I can learn something from the mentalities
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from the stories or anything else, I would love to just bring that to more people.
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That's, that's my goal.
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What really is driving me.
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Um, so speaking about the future and plans, uh, what plans do you have
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in the future in the sim racing?
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Maybe you're thinking to make some kind of content, uh, which can bring more
52:04
people, uh, into some racing as well.
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And, uh, share your opinion with other, uh, people.
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Um, so what's your plan?
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And I know that you're going to take a part in global e sport games.
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Uh, can you tell me more about this?
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Yeah, um about the content thing Uh, I thought a lot of
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well, I have thought about it.
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Um several times but uh so far i've never got the point or i've never
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got so far to say I really want to be content creator or Bring that points in.
52:41
Um but You're right.
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I mean in the end to bring People more into simracing and
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tell those kind of stories.
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I should do some kind of content But so far, I don't know why it's maybe the
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online world or getting the the criticism of everyone Maybe the the opening to
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the world to be a content creator.
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Maybe that's something that i've never accomplished so far Um, or got into it.
53:10
Maybe.
53:10
Um, I need a support here, but, um, maybe it's going to start
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with the global esports games.
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Um, because in there, um, I will be representing Germany for the
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female team together with a friend of mine, um, for the male category.
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So there are two.
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From Germany going to the global esports games, um, which actually should have
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been hold now in December 24, which has shifted to early 25, as far as I know.
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But, um, I will be representing sim racing there.
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And it's, I don't know what to say.
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I mean, it's more than just an honor to race there.
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I even love to see, um, that they made categories for the drivers
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or at least, uh, the teams.
53:54
So far, unfortunately, no information how the race there will be held.
53:59
If it's a combined race, if we have two classes, for example, or if they are
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separate, um, I just know that we are sending two representatives and as far
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as I know, e sports, and I think one of the parts is also motorsport also from
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the IOC got a Olympic, so there will be most likely also Olympic e sport games.
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And if I.
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Can have a chance If I might have the chance, I hope I can also be there and
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see what's going to be there So that will be my goals, um to see what we all
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together can reach in sim racing Maybe just as persona maybe with with different
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categories, maybe in different cars, maybe in different simulators We'll see
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what's going to happen And I think that the future right now is Well, working.
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And next work, a little bit of simracing, practicing for a 24 hour
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race on the Nordschleife in a full motion simulator, um, the global
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esports games, and for sure in my real life experience, the race on the
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Nordschleife, or the test day, somehow.
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So you've got great plans.
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About content creation, I can tell you that Simracing community is so friendly.
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So they go on to support you.
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Of course you can get some toxic people from time to time if you're streaming.
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Um, but you know, we can't live without these people, unfortunately.
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But most of the time I notice that community is just amazing.
55:27
So if you will have opportunity, if you will have like, uh, the wish to make
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some content and I know maybe stream us at a course competition and one day,
55:36
I think you just have to jump into it.
55:40
Well, I will have a thought about it again.
55:43
Um, well, let's see if I see myself on camera, I'm pretty sure I will cringe out.
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So I'm not sure if I'm going to do that.
55:50
Uh, no worries.
55:51
You know, um, To be honest, I was really shy when I first time started streaming,
55:56
I was like, you know, really confused, uh, really close, and also my English
56:02
wasn't that fluent as, uh, right now, so yeah, I think it's okay when you're
56:06
starting something new, it's absolutely okay to feel shy, to feel unconfident
56:10
a little bit, uh, but then, Just like in simracing, you, um, like gaining
56:16
time, yeah, and getting better in some corners, uh, you doing the same thing,
56:21
uh, with the rest of, in your life.
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Isn't it great to see that like, every, um, tip or any hint that we,
56:31
we are talking about is related to simracing, completely transferred
56:36
to other real life problem.
56:38
So kind of do simracing, learn something for life, and.
56:43
Even if it's your passion, you will find something that brings you forward.
56:47
Even if it's coming from simracing or from real life,
56:51
somehow both can go hand in hand.
56:53
And I love the experience, uh, the examples that you made up,
56:57
um, with being shy or being on the racetrack, the mentality that
57:00
you need to set up for streaming.
57:03
Maybe I should think about it again.
57:05
Yeah, it's, uh, you know, really close to, I think I learned a lot of Uh,
57:10
things in simracing, in streaming also.
57:12
Uh, met a lot of cool people, uh, nice people who really dedicate
57:17
about simracing, about racing and It's really cool to be a part of
57:21
this and, um, it's really nice.
57:24
Uh, so before we end up, uh, the stream, I would like to Give you the last question.
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Um, what will be your advice for people who starting in sim racing?
57:36
So what, what can you give from your experience?
57:45
Pretty simple.
57:46
The thing is, if you, if you want to start in sim racing, um, I think the
57:52
worst thing that you can do is think about what do I need for sim racing?
57:57
As we talked about the start in sim racing or the entry level in
58:02
sim racing is, Kind of pretty low.
58:04
You can start with a keyboard, with a mouse, um, you can then join to, um,
58:08
switch to, to a gamepad, you can buy a sim rig, you can buy a racing wheel,
58:13
you can get a direct drive wheel, there is no limit to above, kind of, but if
58:19
you want to start in sim racing, the first thing that you have to do is
58:22
like on a real car, you need to start up the car before you can drive a car.
58:26
So just get started.
58:29
That's, I would say that the main advice that I can give for those who want to
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be part of the simracing community.
58:35
That's great.
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So thank you so much for taking your time.
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Was awesome.
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Uh, I had a lot of fun to speaking with you.
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Uh, everybody, thank you so much for watching.
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Uh, next CineTalks will be, um, next Thursday.
58:49
So we'll see you.
58:50
Thank you so much for watching and bye.
58:54
Bye.
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