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Trump is 'very carefully calibrated' ahead of Xi meeting, expert says · THE DAILY BRIEF

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  Speaker 1: So let's bring in our panel of China experts, Michael Allen,
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  Speaker 1: former Bush national Security official, and Heritage Foundation senior advisor
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  Speaker 1: Michael Pillsburg. Great to have both of you here to
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  Speaker 1: break this down and to look forward a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Here's how the apiece spells this out. They say at
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  Speaker 1: stake is nothing less than the future of the global economy.
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  Speaker 1: A misstep could send shock waves through American industries that
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  Speaker 1: have already been rattled by Trump's aggressive tariffs, government layoffs,
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  Speaker 1: and political brinksmanship. So how tricky is this moving forward?
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  Speaker 2: It's very tricky. The media is covering this from hour
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  Speaker 2: to hour. You'll notice the caution and the care in
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  Speaker 2: what Scott Dissent and Jamison Greer are saying. Every word
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  Speaker 2: is carefully chosen. They're not saying we have a deal.
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  Speaker 2: They're not saying, you know, if you have a scorecard.
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  Speaker 2: They're not saying they just purchased fifty billion dollars of soybeans,
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  Speaker 2: or they're not saying China just agreed to stop its
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  Speaker 2: navy patrols around Taiwan every every day. None of that's happening.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of pressures being put on China, and I
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  Speaker 2: think behind this, I would just use the word brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: Trump has a brilliant long term strategy. He knows there's
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  Speaker 2: only one person in the world who can make things
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  Speaker 2: happen in China. That's She's in pain. So what has
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  Speaker 2: he done after this summit? He and Milania are going
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  Speaker 2: to China in three months. Then she and Madame Panga
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  Speaker 2: we need to come here. So he's laying the framework
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  Speaker 2: for a long term new arrangement where we don't get
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  Speaker 2: ripped off and where our economic growth rate is benefited
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  Speaker 2: by China. But we still have a long way to go.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why every word President Trump is saying, also,
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  Speaker 2: I think is very carefully calibrated for how do we
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  Speaker 2: get China to make the kind of concessions we need
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  Speaker 2: to grow our own economy and that they not invade
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  Speaker 2: Taiwan and that they agree to one of President Trump's
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  Speaker 2: favorite issues, he wants nuclear stability talks with Russia, China,
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  Speaker 2: and America together to kind of put a cap on
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  Speaker 2: overall nuclear weapons totals. There's a lot to get done,
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  Speaker 2: but he's well on the way to doing it by
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  Speaker 2: having this what I call this long term framework.
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  Speaker 1: And you mentioned Russia and all of those interchanges. There,
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  Speaker 1: there's reporting the President is going to press China to
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  Speaker 1: be more helpful when it comes to Russia. How does
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  Speaker 1: that conversation go and how do we measure any kind
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  Speaker 1: of concrete success from this particular meeting.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think just in terms of success for this meeting,
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  Speaker 3: if it turns out to be a fragile truce and
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  Speaker 3: the framework goes forward and the markets are calmed, I
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  Speaker 3: think that would be great. We were two loaded guns
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  Speaker 3: aimed at each other, and if we've begun to back
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  Speaker 3: away from that, that is terrific news. If he raises
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  Speaker 3: Russia with Jijinping, I don't expect him to have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of success. Jijinping, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: wants to see Russia succeed. China, however, is keeping Vladimir
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  Speaker 3: Putin's wartime economy afloat. So if the President is serious
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  Speaker 3: about continuing like he's been doing, putting pressure on the
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  Speaker 3: Russians to condition them to make concessions like a ceasefire,
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  Speaker 3: he might consider consider continuing the tariffs that he wants
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  Speaker 3: to do. And so I think these are just important tools.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about economic warfare tools across the board. And
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  Speaker 3: I think this is just typical of this new era
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  Speaker 3: of geopolitical competition that we're in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a couple of weeks ago, we had the
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  Speaker 1: daughter of one of the pastors. She's a US citizen,
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  Speaker 1: her father is one of these pastors that was rounded
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  Speaker 1: up all across China. And I wonder if the timing
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  Speaker 1: is coordinated to the meetings we're having now. Are they
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  Speaker 1: bargaining chips? There are questions about whether President Trump will
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  Speaker 1: raise those issues human rights abuses as well with China.
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  Speaker 2: I was just in Rome at the Vatican last week.
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  Speaker 2: We happy to know they're quite alarmed at this new
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  Speaker 2: treatment of Christians in China. This used to be a
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  Speaker 2: kind of solved problem. Now these look like systematic arrests
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  Speaker 2: to deliberately take hostages and perhaps even to undo the
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  Speaker 2: Vatican China deal of about eight years ago. So this
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  Speaker 2: is a very alarming. But again it's the kind of
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  Speaker 2: thing that Trump and chi Jin ping together. If chi
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  Speaker 2: Jin thing thinks he's going to head off one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent tariffs by releasing some Catholic leaders, he'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: But there's no other way. I don't I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: big believer in dialogue. You know, with human rights people
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  Speaker 2: asking other human rights people what to do. The Chinese
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  Speaker 2: are a dictatorship. They're not going to do anything for free.
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  Speaker 2: So this she jin ping Trump relationship, just as Michael
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  Speaker 2: is saying, is it globally important?
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  Speaker 1: And end of the day, what do you think is
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  Speaker 1: the top takeaway from this? They've talked fentanyl, they've talked soybeans,
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  Speaker 1: they've talked rare earths, which is the most crucial.
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  Speaker 3: For this meaning well, I think it's terrific if we
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  Speaker 3: did get some soybean purchases atic here, and I expect
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  Speaker 3: the Chinese will say that they've agreed to something as
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  Speaker 3: it comes to fentanyl. So I think it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be as a scene as a success. But we're not
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  Speaker 3: out of the woods on this. We are quite dependent
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  Speaker 3: on China for rare earth minerals. We have to get
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  Speaker 3: out from underneath this ton of bricks. I know the
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  Speaker 3: Trump White House knows this. They're working with speed, but
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  Speaker 3: we need an Operation warps Warp styled crash effort to
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  Speaker 3: develop our own rare earths. I know they want to
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  Speaker 3: do that, but we've got to do that sooner rather
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  Speaker 3: than later, because we don't want to be leveraged by
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  Speaker 3: China like we have been over the last two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Well much to see and watch and wait for this
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  Speaker 1: meeting coming together. We believe it's going to happen, and
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  Speaker 1: when we have a readout, we'll head back to our
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  Speaker 1: experts to see how it went. Gentlemen, Thank you Bill,
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  Speaker 1: good to have you in this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks.
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