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Mori's Rock Boutique The New Album From Chicago's Refestramus · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: you about your music and your exploration. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: guys really expand and invite a lot of listeners inside.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. That's great to hear her.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks you, indeed, indeed, thank you so much to put.
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  Speaker 1: This whole entire project together. We're talking about nine different tracks.
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  Speaker 1: Did you go into it with a concept album or
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  Speaker 1: was it one where you went in there with ideas
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  Speaker 1: knowing that you were going to grow into a different area.
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  Speaker 4: It was, uh, just a collection of ideas initially, and
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  Speaker 4: the if there's been a concept, it's been that every
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  Speaker 4: Reefa Stramas album should be better than the one before it,
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  Speaker 4: and so you know, we we we feel like with
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  Speaker 4: each album we've introduced something different into the mix. And
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  Speaker 4: the big edition in this case was recording more together
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  Speaker 4: in the studio and the addition of Ian and Diane
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  Speaker 4: on the.
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  Speaker 1: Album see and that's what really makes it authentic because
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  Speaker 1: as a listener you can feel that there is a
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  Speaker 1: presence there. So when you're telling me that you've you
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  Speaker 1: were in the studio together, that means a lot to
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  Speaker 1: us on this side because it isn't just cut and paste,
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  Speaker 1: cut and paste.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, this is this is truly sorry, absolutely and and
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  Speaker 3: and and we we owe a lot of that vision
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  Speaker 3: as well to our great producer Ian d About. Ian
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  Speaker 3: is such a creative force and it's such also a
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  Speaker 3: co visionary behind great the Stramas that has supported the
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  Speaker 3: genesis of this record along every step of the way,
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  Speaker 3: and his mix and his mastering are paramounts to the
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  Speaker 3: sound that each here today.
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  Speaker 1: My god, the song tonight tonight, tonight, tonight, not only
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  Speaker 1: are there five different tonights going on there, but this
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  Speaker 1: is one of those songs. As somebody actually came up
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  Speaker 1: to me and said, why is that not in a
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  Speaker 1: VR goggle world because they want to hear it when
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  Speaker 1: they when they're playing their games. Are you guys pushing
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  Speaker 1: it to the video games?
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  Speaker 2: Great idea?
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  Speaker 4: I know that that's an aspect that some folks have
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  Speaker 4: gone down.
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  Speaker 2: I think somebody was just telling.
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  Speaker 4: Me about that as an avenue young Was that you
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  Speaker 4: or was that someone else?
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  Speaker 3: I think that was someone else.
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, yeah, someone else.
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  Speaker 4: Was mentioning to me that that's a big sort of thing.
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  Speaker 4: I guess that's something we should look into.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's got that David Lynch kind of vibe
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  Speaker 1: to it.
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  Speaker 4: It's our producer, Ian would be thrilled to hear that
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  Speaker 4: David Lynch reference. He's, uh, that's he's a huge David
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  Speaker 4: Lynch fan.
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  Speaker 1: Really, so yes, really yeah, because it definitely fits into
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  Speaker 1: the mindset of a great binge watch or a movie
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  Speaker 1: or even a VR game. I mean, if if people
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  Speaker 1: are gaming, this is the kind of stuff I want
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  Speaker 1: jamming inside my headset.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that I tend to think of it as
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  Speaker 4: sort of like a film noir sort of setting.
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  Speaker 1: Have you even have you guys chat GPT's your name yet?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's one of those things where I went on
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  Speaker 1: there the very first time, and I went, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: wanna find out what's going on. And it's like, oh, well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we need we need to get a definition of rap
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  Speaker 1: as dramas here.
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  Speaker 4: You know. I I actually haven't tried that for a
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  Speaker 4: long time because I tried it early, early, early on,
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  Speaker 4: and it didn't know who we were, and I think
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  Speaker 4: I was offended. I haven't tried it since what did
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  Speaker 4: it tell you everything?
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  Speaker 1: But and it was one of those where it was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a story right there. It's like that that
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  Speaker 1: could be like a fan of the music and they're
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  Speaker 1: in search of their favorite, you know, artist, and where
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  Speaker 1: are they at? And so they started chat GPT and
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  Speaker 1: go on this wild goose hunt, I mean, doing like
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  Speaker 1: a rock opera of nothing, but this this goose hut
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  Speaker 1: of trying to figure out where you guys are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well it was a word that was coined by my
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  Speaker 4: mother actually to mean to rearrange oneself.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, So walky go through tsa. You have to take a.
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  Speaker 4: Moment to reifa stramas as the example I always use
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  Speaker 4: with folks.
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  Speaker 1: So when you talk about the lake View Samaria is,
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  Speaker 1: were you in Chicago when you put that together, because
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  Speaker 1: when I hear of Lakeview, I'm thinking of Michigan Avenue.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of that whole entire downtown area.
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  Speaker 4: Yan and I both are are in Lakeview, and Diana
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  Speaker 4: is a little more on the suburbs.
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  Speaker 2: And then Ian, our producer, lives in actually.
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  Speaker 4: Roll Ohio over by Rick Wiktowski and pract the Sky ironically.
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  Speaker 3: Take The story behind Lakey Samurai is that there is
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  Speaker 3: an urban legend that has manifested itself in the Lakeview
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  Speaker 3: area about a gentleman who rides his bike around the
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  Speaker 3: part of northern parts of Chicago in a full samurai costume.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe, Derek you can expand on this, that
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  Speaker 3: was sort of the impetus to create this song, to
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  Speaker 3: make something that is really homegrown Chicago.
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  Speaker 4: Prov Yeah, that's completely accurate. That I've seen him a
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  Speaker 4: couple of times on a bicycle with a couple of katanas.
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  Speaker 4: It's quite a sight, but it goes it passes completely
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  Speaker 4: unnoticed in lake View. Well.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's what I like about being a writer of
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  Speaker 1: songs and or even short stories or long form in
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  Speaker 1: the way that our eyes are always wide open and
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  Speaker 1: we see what other people walk beside and don't even
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  Speaker 1: take note. And so this opens up my eyes because
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  Speaker 1: my wife is from Chicago. Now I want to come
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  Speaker 1: there and see this samurai.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's uh wrigleyvill.
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  Speaker 2: It's is the area where he usually hangs up.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So in the song storms, I mean life as
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  Speaker 1: we know it is a storm. I mean this song
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  Speaker 1: right here is powerful, it's beautiful, but yet I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that you're reaching into us saying, hey, look, we
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  Speaker 1: are going through storms, but we've got something that other
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  Speaker 1: generations don't have. And I just feel something in this song.
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  Speaker 2: I love that interpretation.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it is definitely about a sort of you know,
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  Speaker 4: matter and energy.
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  Speaker 2: I guess relationship with people.
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  Speaker 4: Typically thinking about like, you know, you've got electrical activity
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  Speaker 4: in your brain, and you know what what happens to that? What?
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  Speaker 2: What does it really mean to be conscious? That's sort of.
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  Speaker 4: The thoughts that that that that you see sort of
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  Speaker 4: in the I guess literal interpretation of the lyrics. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: certainly the idea we're going through storms as people, but
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  Speaker 4: we can still hang on and get through it. I
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  Speaker 4: love that interpretation.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not Move. There's more with Derek and Yawn.
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  Speaker 1: From Rough Astramas. Coming up next the name of the
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  Speaker 1: new album, Maury's Rock Boutique. We are back with Derek
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  Speaker 1: and Yawn from Rough Astramas.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: You guys, you know, you set us up in the
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  Speaker 1: way of describing the album as we're right and wrong
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  Speaker 1: still exist. And I love that because that meant that
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  Speaker 1: I could go into this as an honest to god
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  Speaker 1: real person and listen to this music and take in
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  Speaker 1: the lyrics because so many people will listen to the
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  Speaker 1: instrumentation and they fail to listen to the lyrics. In
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  Speaker 1: your music, they go hand in hand and they need
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  Speaker 1: each other.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to hear. Thank you, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: The folks often ask, you know, is is it the
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  Speaker 4: lyrics first or the music first? Usually it's a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of both at the same time. One of the
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  Speaker 4: things that it's really great on this album is uh,
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  Speaker 4: Jan brought his uh you know, tremendous skills as an
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  Speaker 4: arranger to bear on a number of the songs, and
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  Speaker 4: uh just uh, you know what what what started as
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  Speaker 4: perhaps more conventional tracks were really sort of uplifted with
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  Speaker 4: additional musical parts and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell.
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  Speaker 4: You more about, you know, the art of arranging and
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  Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. But yeah, I would, I
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  Speaker 4: would say it's it's all of those pieces.
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  Speaker 3: Was such your joy to work on the album because
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  Speaker 3: the source material is so strong and so compelling from
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  Speaker 3: the outset. One of my favorite things to do in
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  Speaker 3: any sort of recording environment is to step myself twenty
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  Speaker 3: four tracks of vocals and just see where the music
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  Speaker 3: takes me. And when you're talking about the lyrical aspect
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  Speaker 3: and intertwining with the with the melodies and the harmonies
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  Speaker 3: and the portal content of the piece, it's so fun
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  Speaker 3: and so engaging to just sit down it's almost the
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  Speaker 3: starting and say, all right, this is going to be
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  Speaker 3: your main melody, and then let's build an entire soundscape
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  Speaker 3: of harmonies around it. Also, if you add on to
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  Speaker 3: that the great drumming from Derek, the incredible musicianship he brought,
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  Speaker 3: Diane Potter Vocalin's an amazing keyboard playing, it was so
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  Speaker 3: much fun to just be able to manipulate it ever
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  Speaker 3: so slightly and take that source material and make it
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  Speaker 3: into the director you.
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  Speaker 2: Here today, Darik.
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  Speaker 1: I mean get he complimented you in a way that
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  Speaker 1: you know, because when it comes to Prague, that drummer
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  Speaker 1: better be spot on because we've got a whole entire
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  Speaker 1: history of progue music that's laid before us. And now
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, I've got the baton, we got this, We're
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  Speaker 1: going to go across that finish line. We've got it today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh prog drumming.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's it's so interesting that so many different schools
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  Speaker 4: of thought and so many different ways of approaching it.
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  Speaker 4: I've always I've always been really into Bill Brufford and
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  Speaker 4: Stuart Copeland from Uh yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Stuart Copeland.
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  Speaker 4: You know a lot of folks would hesitate to plag
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  Speaker 4: up the Police as a prog band, but uh, I
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  Speaker 4: have no hesitation with that, and certainly in terms of
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  Speaker 4: you know, the drumming, Uh, just the feel and you know,
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  Speaker 4: what he can do with I had is uh very cool.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, I guess I do what I can on drums.
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  Speaker 2: But those are those are sort of my north stars.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be that guy that's going to
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  Speaker 1: compare your music to other people, but my God in Heaven,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I grew up listening to sticks and I've
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  Speaker 1: been starving for that sound ever since, and I found
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  Speaker 1: it in your music. Were you guys inspired by Sticks?
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm feeling something just as dramatic. I want to
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  Speaker 1: see like a Mister Roboto kind of a live rock
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  Speaker 1: concert from you guys, because I know that's the kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff you guys deliver, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I I think lately we've sort of been talking about
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  Speaker 4: it as what we what we think of as American Prague.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's that late seventies, yes, sort of response to
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  Speaker 4: the sort of early seventies British Prague, which is a
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  Speaker 4: little a little more song focused, but you know, it
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  Speaker 4: has a musicality, hopefully it has the attempt at saying
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  Speaker 4: something meaningful and worthwhile, but at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: it's still it still has that hook. So and of
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  Speaker 4: course we're from Chicago, so Stix is, the Sticks and
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  Speaker 4: Ario Speedwagon are from this area. Cheap Trick is from
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  Speaker 4: this area. I think I think we have a lot
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  Speaker 4: of and Kansas is. You know, if you're not too
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  Speaker 4: far away in the Midwest, I think it's that whole
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  Speaker 4: sort of the Midwestern brog thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look at what you've got in the
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  Speaker 1: way of the lead vocals. I mean to me, this
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  Speaker 1: is part of your signature, not just the drums, but
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  Speaker 1: the lead vocals. Every instrument is finding your own path.
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  Speaker 1: And that's like when I sit there and I start
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  Speaker 1: a song, I'm going I know exactly who that is?
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  Speaker 1: That Isn't that the place that everybody wants to be
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  Speaker 1: the very second a song starts, Oh, I know who
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  Speaker 1: that is?
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much, I'll jump into that. As
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  Speaker 3: the lead vocalist, I think it's so important to have
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  Speaker 3: a presence that is compelling, both on the record and
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  Speaker 3: on the stage. You mentioned translating that to a live environment.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons that I am a musician
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  Speaker 3: is that ability to place and play in front of
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  Speaker 3: people and make their day a little bit better, share
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  Speaker 3: that time with them, and present something to them that
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  Speaker 3: they can enjoy. I think the comparison to Stick is
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  Speaker 3: even deeper a little bit in our live shows because
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  Speaker 3: we really try to bring all of those harmonies, all
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  Speaker 3: of that that signatures down, that makes reach the stramas,
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  Speaker 3: that makes MOR's rocky teeth, this the record that it is.
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  Speaker 3: We try to bring that to a live environment and
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  Speaker 3: it makes the remabsolutely electric.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know one thing that you talked about, Derek,
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  Speaker 1: when you were talking about the twenty four tracks of
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  Speaker 1: different vocals, And right away my imagination lit up because
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  Speaker 1: I have all forty eight tracks of Bohemian Rhapsody from
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  Speaker 1: Queen and to sit there and listen to one track
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  Speaker 1: at a time, I can't imagine what you're going through
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  Speaker 1: because I know what I feel in going through those tracks.
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  Speaker 1: There's just something electric about the rawness of music. But
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  Speaker 1: we get the produce side as listeners.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think Jong went through UH more
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  Speaker 4: of the UH tracks than anyone. I think I think
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  Speaker 4: my demos were maybe twenty four tracks most Wow.
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  Speaker 1: But still the average listener doesn't understand that language. But
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  Speaker 1: to be in that moment inside that engineering room and
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  Speaker 1: you're breaking that stuff down, my god, that's a part
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  Speaker 1: part of music history that so many people don't get
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  Speaker 1: to experience.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's true.
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  Speaker 3: It really is, it really is it. It's an absolutely
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  Speaker 3: joy to watch a piece of music evolved and something
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  Speaker 3: that it gets a life of its own, and you
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  Speaker 3: get to that I start a relationship with every tune
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  Speaker 3: in a different way than you did do with any other.
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  Speaker 5: And and T five tonight tonight, Tonight, Tonight Tonight ended
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  Speaker 5: up being something like two hundred tracks altogether, with close
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  Speaker 5: to twenty guitar parts and all the vocals.
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  Speaker 3: So you get you get it. You get a very
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  Speaker 3: intimate relationship with every ting that you work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the song Lucky One, did you guys feel like Timekeepers?
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  Speaker 1: And maybe it's because I watched The Twilight Zone every
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  Speaker 1: day on on on t B TV, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I just I just felt like that you guys were
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  Speaker 1: watching the same episode I was on the on on
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  Speaker 1: the Twilight Zone.
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  Speaker 4: Now, which, uh, what's what happens in Timekeepers? I've seen
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  Speaker 4: uh Twilight Zone a lot, but I can't remember which
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  Speaker 4: episode said.
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  Speaker 1: Well the timekib to me. It's all of them. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're all traveling back. And that's the thing about it
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  Speaker 1: is that, once again, this goes all the way back
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  Speaker 1: to the thing about doing music for movies as well
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  Speaker 1: as binge watches. You fit into the atmosphere of whatever
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  Speaker 1: the story is, and all of a sudden, I'm starting
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  Speaker 1: to think of songs like the Lucky One and going,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, it sounds like that you guys were
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  Speaker 1: once a part of the Twilight Zone family and you're saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, when we were on that show, this
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  Speaker 1: is the song we used Welcome to It twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a really interesting perspective. It's you know,
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  Speaker 4: that particular song is about when we meet people in
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  Speaker 4: life who are sort of mean or nasty or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: trying to think about what might have caused them to
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  Speaker 4: get into that state and regard yourself as lucky to
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  Speaker 4: not be them.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, oh yeah, I do enough studying on the
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  Speaker 1: old man's syndrome. You know, they grumpy old man syndrome.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want to be that guy. So
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's my connection to the song, the Lucky One.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be those other people. I want
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  Speaker 1: to be the lucky one. That's got to be my connection.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh. I think I think many of us
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  Speaker 2: feel that way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hell or New York. I love the bluesy aspect
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  Speaker 1: of this, and I also feel some scat am I
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  Speaker 1: wrong when I say I feel Scare's.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's definitely Scott. That's that's that's very perceptive.
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  Speaker 4: It's sort of like prog rock meets madness.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it does, God Almighty that's perfect. Put that on
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  Speaker 1: a T shirt and sell at your concerts.
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  Speaker 2: So true, You're a great idea.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, David Jackson is our guest saxophonist on that from
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  Speaker 4: Vandergrat Generator.
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  Speaker 2: Super cool, very cool.
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  Speaker 1: So I love it when musicians can collaborate when they
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  Speaker 1: step in the studio, and it's like when I put
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  Speaker 1: my last project together, I didn't get to be with
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  Speaker 1: everybody one on one, So I'm jealous that you guys
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  Speaker 1: got to be face to face. But it was like
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  Speaker 1: hire the musician, get the musician in there, and trusting
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  Speaker 1: that they're going to give you the best job. And
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  Speaker 1: it's like that. That's why I'm so jealous of this
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  Speaker 1: particular project is that you guys worked as one.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, or at least two. We very half the band, Yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: half the band. We're in a studio in Ohio, and
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: then Jan and Diane were in a separate studio here
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: in Chicago.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, Jan, Yeah, absolutely.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Would you say that no other country it's going to
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: be this summer's top song because you've got kind of
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: a Roger Daltrey kind of vibe to it, and man,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it screams hot time in the summertime.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Another country I think yeah, it's I think think it could.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: It was written many years ago, but it's it's still
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: quite relevant.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would have never thought that. My god, I
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: just felt like that it was within the past six
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: months or so.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sadly. The messages is evergreen. You know, it's
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: about uh wondering if if you're in the right place,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: and or if if it's if it's time to put
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: one foot in the uh in the estate boat.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Wow. Where can people go to find out more about
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the band? Because with all this sound that you guys
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: have got, you've got some pretty nifty cool merch You've
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: got to because and we need to get it in
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the hands of the fans.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Uh Reathless tramis uh dot bandcamp dot com is definitely
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: the best place for merch or if you just want
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: to check out the rest about the band, just reaflestramas
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: dot com works too.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Are you going to be doing a tour and come
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: down to the South.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. I We're trying to plan as many live
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: shows as we possibly can. We're going to be playing
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: a festival International Pop Overthrow here in Chicago. I'm April
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: twenty fifth of this year, and that's gonna be our
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: sort of springboard going into the live performance season, and
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: we're hoping to play with as many other bands and
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: as many festivals and as many live dates all across
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the country and even even in Europe hopefully as well
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm glad you said Europe, because
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing word that the progue UK is all over
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you guys and that they're screaming for more.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: They were very kind to us in their review in
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: this month's issue, thankfully.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they and it. It's always a little bit of
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: a coin toss with them because you do get a
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: little bit of gatekeeping.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: In the prog community and we probably see a little
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: bit more to the not pop but maybe the hard
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: rock side of the equations and so, but you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: they were very kind to us and it was great
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: to see an exceleb review from them.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Wow, you guys are gonna have to come back to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: this show anytime in the future. I want to share
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: your story. You dropped the next track, We got to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: talk about it. That's that's how we got to promote it,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: one step at a time so people can jump on
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: board their Spotify with you on their list.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having us. I've been great talking with you.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Will you guys be brilliant today?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, you and you thank you.