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Sugar and Vice: A Hannah Swensen Mystery · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Homemark, a homemark review podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan. I'm Wendy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a former Hallmark hater. On today's episode, we're discussing Sugar
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  Speaker 1: and Vice, a Hannah Swinson mystery, which originally premiered on
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  Speaker 1: is in our show notes. Let's talk HANNAHS wentson sugar Advice.
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  Speaker 1: Sugar Advice, Hannah S. Whinson. I always want.
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  Speaker 2: To put the name first before the title yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I hear you. Sugar Advice Hannah's wants. In Mystery, Hannah
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  Speaker 2: finds a body at the grand reopening of the Lake
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  Speaker 2: Eden Inn when a storm traps everybody inside.
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  Speaker 1: Hannah must find.
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  Speaker 2: The culport before the road clears and the killer escapes.
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  Speaker 1: Peter Benson directed Sugar Advice, a Hannah s Whinson mystery.
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  Speaker 1: This movie marks Peter's directorial project. His recent work includes
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  Speaker 1: The More the Merrier, Christmas, Above the Clouds, and Return
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  Speaker 1: to Office.
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  Speaker 2: Allie Sweeney wrote the screenplay for Sugar Advice. This marks
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  Speaker 2: her fourth writing credit in the Hannah s Winson franchise.
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  Speaker 2: She also serves as producer.
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  Speaker 1: And leads, starring as Hannah Wowie Zwie. Victor Webster returns
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  Speaker 1: as Chad Norton. We last saw Victor on Hallmark in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, with back to back Hannah movies, Reality
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  Speaker 1: Bites and Pie to Die For, respectively.
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  Speaker 2: Is this all he's working on lately? Just Chad Norton?
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  Speaker 2: I need a Wowie Zowie romance rom com Give me something, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: yeah yeah. Barbara Nevin co stars as Hannah's mom, Dolores.
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  Speaker 2: Barbara also appeared in Reality Bites and Pie to Die
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  Speaker 2: For in twenty twenty five, as well as Christmas Baby.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Dupon returns as Sheriff Ealing and blossoming love interest
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  Speaker 1: for Dolores. Mike has two hundred four acting credits and
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  Speaker 1: has appeared in five previous Hannah Swinson mysteries.
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  Speaker 2: Juliana Wimble's plays Cookie Jar colleague Lisa. This marks her
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  Speaker 2: forty eighth acting credit, but Juliana has also been busy screenwriting,
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  Speaker 2: as she recently pinned Romance at Hope Ranch starring Alison Sweeney.
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  Speaker 2: Tess Atkins return as Hannah's sister Michelle. This is her
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifth acting credit, and she has been a part
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  Speaker 2: of the Hannah Swinson universe since Sweet Revenge in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one. When I'm putting these notes together the sister triangle,
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  Speaker 2: I need a reminder every single time there's another sister, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, played by Lisa Drupt Where was she? They seem
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  Speaker 1: to swap them in and out. It's weird to me. Also,
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  Speaker 1: Norman is completely missing. Oh, I got tons of notes
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  Speaker 1: about normOn. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Warn Lee plays hotel employee Bobby. This is Warren's fourteenth
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  Speaker 2: acting credit, and he previously appeared in Reality Bites, as
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  Speaker 2: well as Aurora Tea Garden Mysteries, Something New.
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  Speaker 1: Paul mcgillian plays Kurt Howe. You may recognize Paul from
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  Speaker 1: his role as Jane McLeod on Providence Falls. Interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 1: Paul will appear in This Weekends, Nelly Knows Mysteries, All
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  Speaker 1: Manners of Murder, Back to Back Mysteries, Back to Back.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Steven appears as Darryl with forty seven acting credits.
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  Speaker 2: Tom's last role on Hallmark was in North to Home
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: Teagan Vince plays Kurt's wife Cheryl. Teagan has sixty two
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  Speaker 1: acting credits and has appeared on Hallmark before. But also
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  Speaker 1: noteworthy is her role as Marsha Cross in the unauthorized
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  Speaker 1: Melrose play story I Can See It That Red Hair, Harriet. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Marley Collins plays ill fated brandy Wine Justice for Marlee Collins.
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  Speaker 2: She has thirty four acting credits, which includes The More
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  Speaker 2: the Merrier and The Real West. She needs a much
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  Speaker 2: more substantial role than brandy Wine Gone Too Soon.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, let's take a quick break, chick, and we'll come
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  Speaker 1: right back with our first impressions. Hey, Wendy, what is
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  Speaker 1: your first impression of sugar and vice.
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  Speaker 2: If someone calls nine to one one from the Lake
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  Speaker 2: Eden Hotel, please make sure to say the entire name
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  Speaker 2: of the Lake Eden Hotel and Spa, so emergency services
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  Speaker 2: know exactly which Lake Eden Hotel and Spa you're referring.
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  Speaker 1: To catch that at all. My first impression is, is
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  Speaker 1: this Tannas Winston or the Halloween episode of Beverly Hills
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  Speaker 1: nine two and oh season two? Oh my god, you
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  Speaker 1: nailed it. Nailed it. I thank you. There wasn't fire
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  Speaker 1: there and I couldn't put my finger on it. That
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  Speaker 1: was it? Yay, that was it. What did you like
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  Speaker 1: about this movie? Way? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: I do think Alie Sweeney deserves some writing credit here.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the dialogue in this movie was pretty sharp,
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  Speaker 2: especially the conversations between Hannah and her sister and Hannah
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  Speaker 2: and Lisa. They felt very natural and funny. The standout
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  Speaker 2: line for me in this entire movie was when Lisa says, Hannah, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I never get to be around for this part, the
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  Speaker 2: part where you find the body. It's the best I
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  Speaker 2: thought of what I cackled?
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  Speaker 1: We do? I love that sort of self aware humor.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't these movies don't usually do that. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: and so I really appreciated that. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: very funny, especially because you and I have talked about
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  Speaker 1: why would anybody go to Lake Eden? People die there
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  Speaker 1: all the time, so this felt prescient. Definitely. I loved
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  Speaker 1: the costuming for this movie. I think that's where the
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  Speaker 1: bulk of the work went, honestly, was to the visuals
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  Speaker 1: of this movie, the costuming and the party. Hannah's dress
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  Speaker 1: did remind me of Donna Martin's Mermaid dress from that
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  Speaker 1: memorable Halloween episode of nine or two and zero that
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  Speaker 1: she can barely walk it and she does that little
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  Speaker 1: wattle and just be I think carried in at one point. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought her dress was beautiful, the little net
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  Speaker 1: as the skirt like, I thought she looked great. I
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  Speaker 1: loved her hair extensions, her wig, whatever was going on there.
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  Speaker 1: She did have to keep hiking it up to be
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  Speaker 1: able to walk. It was a touch too long, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, and she was like holding it by
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  Speaker 1: the crotch a lot of the time. Oh, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: notice that. Could we give her a bustle or something? Anyway? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought the costuming was nice. I really loved
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  Speaker 1: Dolores's Queen of Heart's costume. I thought that was perfectly
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  Speaker 1: on character for her on brand. I do have some
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about the costume party as a whole that will
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  Speaker 1: come a little bit later. But I did think the
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  Speaker 1: costuming was fun. I liked Peter Benson popping up in
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  Speaker 1: his heart, Like, what was going on with his costume?
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  Speaker 1: Like he's wearing that heart blazer. I'm not really sure.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, who are you?
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  Speaker 2: It was giving Valentine's Day? It wasn't giving like dressed
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  Speaker 2: up as a character.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, am I missing something? Are you
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  Speaker 1: a I don't know what he was. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but uh. I did like the appearance of Peter Benson
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  Speaker 1: as like the loudmouth partygoer. Loved it too. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: there you are, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I was excited about him mostly because like that he was.
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  Speaker 1: Like complaining and then he was dancing. I did you know?
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  Speaker 2: I just enjoyed. I enjoy seeing him put in these movies.
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  Speaker 2: Yet me too put himself in these movies. Circling back
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  Speaker 2: to Dolores, I think Delris says the absolute most. I
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  Speaker 2: know people don't love the character Delores, but listen if
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  Speaker 2: Barbara Nevin wants to dial it to eleven.
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  Speaker 1: I say, let her.
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  Speaker 2: I just love the confidence, I love her drama. I
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  Speaker 2: love just the silliness of her character. Give me kookie
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  Speaker 2: mom energy.
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  Speaker 1: And I love that the sheriff calls her Lolo Lo.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that too. Lolo was so cute. I also
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  Speaker 1: love her iconic line she pops into the cookie jar.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning and Hannah and Lisa are hanging by
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  Speaker 1: a thread after their long night of partying, and she goes,
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  Speaker 1: that was nothing. The eighties, those were long nights, and
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  Speaker 1: I thought, wow, that was funny. I love that too.
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  Speaker 2: Also a note, I did enjoy that Hannah was wearing
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  Speaker 2: tennis shoes under her Mermaid costume. Yeah, very relatable, especially
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  Speaker 2: if you're working the damn event and you're wearing a costume.
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  Speaker 1: Huh, wear a tennis shoe.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact that Dolores was like so disgusted by
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  Speaker 2: it was hilarious to me.
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  Speaker 1: Very funny. Okay, a couple of little things. I liked
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  Speaker 1: the character of Bobby. I know that he was per
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  Speaker 1: your notes in a previous movie. I had forgotten that.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize to mister Lee, but I do hope we
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  Speaker 1: see him again, particularly since we have some characters that
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  Speaker 1: seem to have exited the building, whereas Norman. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. But also, like the sisters come in and out,
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  Speaker 1: I think the town of Lake Eydon could use some
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  Speaker 1: fresh blood unintended there. I thought he was a nice,
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  Speaker 1: fun energy in addition to this cast, he was a
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  Speaker 1: nice partner for Hannah. I'd like to see more of him.
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  Speaker 1: But he's probably not gonna last long at the Lake
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  Speaker 1: Eydon in and swall because that place is doomed? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it doomed? Would you stay there if somebody was?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure we've stayed at a hotel before
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  Speaker 2: that somebody's actually no, I've stayed at a hotel that
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  Speaker 2: somebody's died before.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, but the staff was doing the murdering. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Can finish it, finish up here likes and then talk wishes,
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  Speaker 2: And then we're gonna talk wishes because I have some questions.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't really know if this is a like
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  Speaker 1: or not. It's not something I didn't like. It's just
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  Speaker 1: something I noticed and I wonder I guess it could
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  Speaker 1: be did to see that whatever here we are and
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  Speaker 1: the scene where Dolores is leading the conga line. Did
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  Speaker 1: it give hocus pocus? The party guests are all possessed
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  Speaker 1: when they dance all night long. I don't get that reference.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen hocus Pocus. I maybe have started in
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  Speaker 1: them fallen asleep. Yeah, well, all the parents in town
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  Speaker 1: are at this Halloween party and then at some point
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  Speaker 1: the witches show up and they curse them, and so
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  Speaker 1: the kids like try and get the parents to help,
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  Speaker 1: and the parents they're just like dancing and dancing and dancing.
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  Speaker 1: They have no idea what's going on. Anyways, it gave
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  Speaker 1: me those vibes. That's not landing for you. If it
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  Speaker 1: landed for you, the listener, let me know.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I thought about in that moment was
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  Speaker 2: would I be doing a conga line if the like
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  Speaker 2: lights went out and everybody's like you adds basically stay
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  Speaker 2: in this room, and like I know, Dolores is doing
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  Speaker 2: everything she can to like keep everybody engaged.
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  Speaker 1: But would I join a congo line?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so, unless I was really drinking a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cookies and milk. If you know what I
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  Speaker 2: am saying here, I mean, I don't think I would
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  Speaker 2: join a congo line in the best of circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like fun don't I don't like the illusion
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  Speaker 1: that I put on a shirt. I don't like putting
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  Speaker 1: myself in any position that could make me look ridiculous. Question, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: have you done like the macarena at a wedding or
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  Speaker 1: the like electric slide? Okay? I feel like the electric
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  Speaker 1: slide is a little bit different. Why I don't know? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but at least if yes, I have done the electric slide?
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: Have I done the Makarina? Not in the last one?
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, no, give me a break. Chicken Dance? No? No,
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm no funny either. We had a table
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  Speaker 1: on a lot with our wedding DJ. We had like
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  Speaker 1: a long list of do not play these songs? And
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the Chicken Dance was on there. No, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no y m c A. Although although I would do
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  Speaker 1: a y M c A probably who can? Who can resist?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk wishes. The mystery for me a little complicated. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can't even tell you. I think it's Daryl who
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  Speaker 2: was the bad guy?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, First of all, when he chased them with
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  Speaker 1: a gun, that wasn't the.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but sometimes like you know, okay, clock Darryl immediately
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  Speaker 2: like his vibes were way off from the very sure.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you're the bad dude, Like, did I
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  Speaker 1: solve it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And then he like disappears. That's always that's that's a
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  Speaker 1: dead giveaway. If we meet someone and then we don't
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  Speaker 1: see them from a long time. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But like with the time cards and the notes and
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  Speaker 2: the mispromotions and the staff drama, I was like, these
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  Speaker 2: clothes are just washing over me. I don't even care.
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  Speaker 2: It got too tangled up for me.
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  Speaker 1: My biggest problem with the mystery is they leaned really
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  Speaker 1: hard on this being a locked room mystery, and then
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  Speaker 1: they gave it up. They had to let everybody out,
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  Speaker 1: So we have all this build up. Got to solve it.
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  Speaker 1: We have to create this pretense that the roads are
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  Speaker 1: closed and keep them closed for longer than we should
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  Speaker 1: and do the conga and all of this. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: then the party ends and they said everyone on their way,
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  Speaker 1: and they had not solved this mystery. That is my
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  Speaker 1: biggest problem is the investigation was not great.
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  Speaker 2: No, they have a dead body in a room, they
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  Speaker 2: lock this, they secure the room right, and then then
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  Speaker 2: they're just like letting everybody, no, don't you just like
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  Speaker 2: shut that shit down and like start interviewing everybody who's
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  Speaker 2: at the party.
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  Speaker 1: Like you need to like bring in a row folding chair,
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  Speaker 1: said everybody the hell down, and everybody needs to be
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  Speaker 1: questioned and released once they've been cleared. It was a mess.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, is the sheriff not good at his job?
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  Speaker 1: What was weird to me is they're like, well, we
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  Speaker 1: don't want to create panic, but the sheriff and Chad
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  Speaker 1: were the ones who needed to be like, well, Chad's
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  Speaker 1: a DA, right, yes, why is the DA doing all
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  Speaker 1: of this investigating in this episode? Shouldn't be like as
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  Speaker 1: much as Hannah shouldn't be right. They're just like they've
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: fully given up on the fact that Hannah is not
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  Speaker 1: a detective, and they're like, yeah, you go help us
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  Speaker 1: out with that. Yeah. Look, the sheriff and the DA
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  Speaker 1: do not have any obligation to the owner of the
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  Speaker 1: lake eaten inan SPA. Do not turn this into a
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  Speaker 1: panic situation, Like I understand that that's not what you
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  Speaker 1: want on your grand opening, grand reopening moment. Too bad,
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  Speaker 1: We've had a murder. Party's over now. I got to
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  Speaker 1: conduct some business well, And isn't the safety of the
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  Speaker 1: public the utmost important? And they just keep theirs off
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  Speaker 1: on their own. They're like, Hannah, you go do this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna let her walk the halls by
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  Speaker 1: our side? What are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I didn't quite understand that. We don't want to
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  Speaker 2: create panic, but we're gonna let a murderer just be
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  Speaker 2: amongst us in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Here, because every I'm trying to think of like another
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  Speaker 1: locked room mystery. And did you watch the show The
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  Speaker 1: Residence on Netflix last year? And I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: It takes place in the White House and a staff
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  Speaker 1: member is murdered, and I don't think it's a secret
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  Speaker 1: that this person has been murdered, but they're questioning all
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  Speaker 1: of these people, and it's kind of a similar situation.
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  Speaker 1: I think the idea that they were keeping the murder
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  Speaker 1: a secret was a mistake. That's all. That's not all.
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  Speaker 1: I got more.
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  Speaker 2: I got some more too. Where the freak was Norman?
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  Speaker 2: You're telling me that this huge party at the Lake
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  Speaker 2: Eden Hotel and spot the social event of the year,
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  Speaker 2: and the town dentist Norman simply not there, not even mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: not even mentioned at this point. I'm convinced they bring
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Norman in as a killer just to get Hannah's attention.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, sister Michelle is basically an afterthought in this
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: movie as well. Totally she's here, but I would have
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  Speaker 1: loved to see her and Hannah working together. They have
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  Speaker 1: a fun line and they show up at Lolo's house
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  Speaker 1: and the sheriff's leaving. They're like, well, I don't like
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  Speaker 1: that at all. Great, but let's dig into that a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more. I think so too. Can we talk
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: about Chad. Let's talk about Chad now? I love me
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: some Wowie's Auie. I love Chad as Hannah's love interest,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: but I needed to see them spend more time together.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: If these two non detectives are going to be detecting
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the mystery, maybe they could work together. Also, their relationship
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: appears to be in a good place, although it still
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: appears to be in its newest stages. Again, timeline is
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: weird because it's been months in real time, but who
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: knows how long it's been. She's still acting like surprised
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: when he kisses her. Right, they're not into that settled
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: relationship place, but I need to see some sort of
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: plot points surrounding their relationship. There wasn't a lot of
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: conflict outside of the murder itself, right, and so I'm
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: gonna need somebody to be working through something. It doesn't
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: need to be bad. They could be together, they can
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: be endgame, but I needed something else to be happening
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: in the town of Lake Eden.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Well that is really thoughtful commentary. Uh huh, my notes
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: say I need more electricity here. Oh sure, I love
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: you know. I'm real sweet on Victor Webster and especially
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: joining this cast.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I just like his male energy.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But I agree it gets a little old with the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: like she's surprised, like that he kissed her, she's seen
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: by him.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It's giving like second date energy. Yes, and I think
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: back to Amy and Travis from Mystery one on one
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: that was like you could feel the sexual tension through
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the TV. Right, I need that, and we know Victor
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Webster can bring that. I know. So I watch Working Moms, y'all.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I need some watch Working Moms.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need something else, But I think your commentary
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: is spot on. I need some sort of like outside force.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I don't something, Yes, something that's gonna move this forward
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: some Are you ready for digit see that I am.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I have a question. Tell me. I actually googled this
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: question and it was is there a difference between a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: costume party and a masquerade ball? And in fact there is.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And to me it seemed like this isn't a DIGITU that.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I guess it's a wish. I don't really know what's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: happening here, but to me, it seemed like they couldn't
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: decide which was which in this movie because you got
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: some people in costume, some people in masks. Yeah, just
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: everything all at once and come in disguise of some sort.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're right, it was kind of costume. It
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: was costume, like Lisa was dressed up as Dorothy and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: we have had.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: As a mermaid, and then you have some people in
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: like dresses and masks very different by and on the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: movie poster they the cookies are the masquerade and they
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: made those math cookie masks at the party. I gotta
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: talk about the cookies. I got a question about too.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, First, my first problem with the cookies is our
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: cookies the only thing to eat at this party. That's
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: terrible food for I don't party. So I didn't see
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: a past order either. I know no, no, no, But
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: are they I seen cookies?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I have so many issues with the cookies,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: going back to when Darryl comes to the cookie jar
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and Hannah's like, I have some ideas and he picks three.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: She's like three. Three doesn't seem like a crazy number
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of cookies to have in an event like a three varieties. Sure,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like a lot to me. She They
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: were like, how are you gonna do three? And I
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: was like, you're a professional baker. This literally is your
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: full time job. Stop solving murders too. Why are they
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: baking them on site? They would never in one million
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: years have done that. They show them with the sugar
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: cookies on the tray, then we see the iced sugar cookies.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: There is no chance they are icing these sugar cookies.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: First of all, they take a full day to set
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that icing. Second of all, it probably takes fifteen minutes
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: per cookie to ice those. So what are we doing?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: We are not baking those? Oh, let me just go
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: through those in the oven and no, no.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell me they're not doing like a chocolate
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: chip cookie. First of all, you bake cookies that you
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: can bake cookies ahead of time. This is not a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: stuffed mushroom coming out of the oven that needs to
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: be hot.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And needed to be baked. She didn't need to be
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: working at the event period. Cookies need to cool. You
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: wouldn't make fresh baked cookies anyway. I think cookies at
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a party like this is weird. And they explained it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: They were like they wanted people to be like up
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and around, so it's easier to eat a cookie than
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: some sort of like you need a fork situation. I mean,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: fine cookies are a perfectly fine dessert. It's fine, but
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't be making them on side. I agree. And
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: she's a she's a member of the town, she's a
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: she owns a very prominent town business. They didn't need
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to contrive a reason for her to be there, right,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: All these people are there, go to the opening, Your
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: cookies are there, your special coffee blend is there. You
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: have a reason to be there. The end, people drink
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: coffee at this party, evidently coffee and cookies. It's a rager.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: That's my type of rager. But I have a couple
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: digit see that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: The danccene dip moment when Chad dips Hannah during their
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: dance scene.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a lot of dec latage for Hallmark.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just was I'm not mad about it. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: just was like, Wow, didn't see that coming. You must
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: not have cloth that he like, I didn't. You're backward
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and you know she's wearing the sort of that that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Mermaid's sweet Heart neckline.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So it just was a lot of like yeah, and
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: all she has is like a clear strap holding it up.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: It's just all off And I don't care. But I
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: just was like, Wow, Peter Benson did something here my
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: other did you see that? It's kind of a wish
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: kind of a question. Did the cheating husband's storyline just disappear?
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: The whole subplot where Kurt's wife comes to Hannah and
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Dolores and she's like they were like a little bit
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: afraid of her and the alley and she's like asking
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: for help for her cheating husband, and then like did
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: that ever get wrapped up? Did anything ever happen there?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he gets exonerated as the killer, so
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I suppose there's that.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: But he still was a cheater and that's what the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: wife was pissed off about. Yeah, and I did like that.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: She's like, I wouldn't have killed her, I would have
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: killed him, like no, right, But I was like, please,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I hope this continues into like the next movie, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I doubt it's going to.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I just was like, no, I know, why why? Why? Right?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: It was unfinished, unfinished, right? Anything else? That's all I got. Hey,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: what did you rate, Sugar Advice? I gave it three stars?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Me too. Okay, hey, thanks for listening to this episode
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