Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Carolyn Young: Retail NZ CEO on new Ministerial Advisory Group on retail crime
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ministerial Advisory Group will be set up to engage with
- 0:02Speaker 1: victims of retail crime. The group will advise the government
- 0:05Speaker 1: on how to reduce offending. This effects ninety two percent
- 0:08Speaker 1: of all retailers. Can you believe it two point six
- 0:11Speaker 1: billion dollars a year? It costs us. Carolyn Young from
- 0:14Speaker 1: retail in z is with me now, Carolyn, good to
- 0:16Speaker 1: have you on the program this morning. Have you, first
- 0:19Speaker 1: of all, got any out of the box ideas that
- 0:21Speaker 1: we should be trying that this this group should be looking.
- 0:24Speaker 2: At moderna Ryan Well, I don't know, I it's out
- 0:28Speaker 2: of the box, but effectively looking at you know, some
- 0:32Speaker 2: of the work that we're already doing in terms of
- 0:34Speaker 2: the space, and the most obvious thing is obviously wanting
- 0:38Speaker 2: to have increasing police numbers because you know, the having
- 0:42Speaker 2: a police presence on the streets by always deters offending.
- 0:48Speaker 2: So you know, that's a no brain or something to do.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Sometimes the simple things are the most effective, and that's
- 0:54Speaker 2: a really effective toll. And then as we move forward
- 0:58Speaker 2: the use of technology, and there's lots of different ways
- 1:00Speaker 2: in which you can use technology to help combat offenders,
- 1:04Speaker 2: keeping stores safe for staff and customers, so it can
- 1:08Speaker 2: be anything from body cameras to facial recognition to license
- 1:12Speaker 2: plate recognition. There's a whole raft of other things as well,
- 1:15Speaker 2: and the use of technology and training for staff is
- 1:18Speaker 2: also really important.
- 1:19Speaker 1: What about the more aggressive ones, Carolyn, And I know
- 1:22Speaker 1: that some it's more dairy owners, some dairy owners who
- 1:25Speaker 1: want to go down this track, but allowing them to
- 1:28Speaker 1: have you know, tasers or arm themselves and then be
- 1:32Speaker 1: immune from prosecution should anything go wrong.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think that or certainly the police Minister
- 1:38Speaker 2: is already looking at the role of security guards and
- 1:42Speaker 2: I know yesterday there was a talk of extending that
- 1:45Speaker 2: to retail workers on the sense a little bit around
- 1:50Speaker 2: what might that look like and does that then encourage
- 1:52Speaker 2: people that are going to offend to escalate the situation
- 1:56Speaker 2: in advance so they're prepared for something like that and
- 1:59Speaker 2: they bring other tools that could end in more more
- 2:02Speaker 2: violence in stall. See here to be really careful because
- 2:05Speaker 2: we haven't really as a country or a nation, gone
- 2:08Speaker 2: through a situation where we fight fire with fire, because
- 2:11Speaker 2: it's not doesn't always work out that well.
- 2:13Speaker 1: The fire is all coming one way at the moment, isn't.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the same it is.
- 2:18Speaker 2: All coming one way here, and I think that, you know,
- 2:21Speaker 2: there might be some tools that might be appropriate, but
- 2:23Speaker 2: things like guns and swords and things like that, I
- 2:25Speaker 2: don't really think is a country want to head down
- 2:27Speaker 2: that pathway. But you know, I guess the Advisory Group
- 2:30Speaker 2: will look into that and we'll be doing our own
- 2:33Speaker 2: research around that space to see what our members are
- 2:36Speaker 2: telling us that they feel that they need.
- 2:38Speaker 1: The opposition says that this is a talk fest. Do
- 2:41Speaker 1: you know is there a rest? This is just going
- 2:43Speaker 1: to go round in circles and actually we'll be here
- 2:45Speaker 1: again in two years.
- 2:47Speaker 2: And there is a risk of that. But we are
- 2:50Speaker 2: leading a bunch of that's looking at legislative change and
- 2:52Speaker 2: how that can be a toll and a mechanism to
- 2:57Speaker 2: help retailers. We're also obviously advocating on the use of
- 3:00Speaker 2: technology to protect staff and stores. And if you can
- 3:03Speaker 2: protect staff and stores, it reduces the needs for people
- 3:07Speaker 2: to be having things like tases and be defending themselves.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I certainly think that if you are having to defend
- 3:13Speaker 2: yourself against criminals, that you don't want to be charged
- 3:16Speaker 2: with that. But it's really thinking about do we want
- 3:19Speaker 2: to encourage that is that the right pathway forward. So
- 3:23Speaker 2: there's certainly lots of we're working with the Police Minister,
- 3:27Speaker 2: the Justice Minister, the work postulations, We're working with the
- 3:32Speaker 2: Police Commissioner as well, and we've got a number of
- 3:34Speaker 2: working groups who are actually doing this and stuff, so
- 3:36Speaker 2: we can creede into this other group as well well.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Hopefully between all of these groups, something will happen, something
- 3:42Speaker 1: will change. Carolyn, thank you very much for your time
- 3:44Speaker 1: this morning, Carolyn Young from Retail end Z. For more
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