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Trevor Loudon: ‘Enemies Within’ Destroying America On Purpose (Replay) · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Hello friends, welcome again to World View Matters.
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  Thank you so much for tuning in, for listening, watching, sharing.
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  God bless you guys and for your support and your prayers.
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  Got a special treat today.
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  This brother is a great truth proclamer and defender.
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  Trevor Loudon is back with us.
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  He's an author and a filmmaker, public speaker from Christchurch, New Zealand.
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  And for more than three decades, he's researched the radical left, Marxist and terrorist movements,
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  and their covert influence on mainstream politics.
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  So it's a blessing and a privilege to have Trevor Loudon back with us.
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  Trevor, good to see you again.
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  Hey, it was great, David, thanks for having me on.
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  Well, thank you, sir, for your time and all your work, your wonderful work.
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  And let's go back, I want to go back to agenda documentary.
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  That's when I met you the first time when that was being produced and put out by Curtis Bowers.
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  I want to ask you, run off the top because you said some really good things in there
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  as all the guests that were interviewed for agenda.
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  But it was like a wake up call to the church and to a lot of people who had no idea
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  how deep this agenda for socialism and Marxism in America was already advanced.
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  So I want to ask you right off the top, what has changed in your mind since 2010
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  when agenda came out and already there was so much to be concerned about then.
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  But this is about now 15 years ago.
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  So what has changed and has concerned you since then?
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  Well, look, if we're said in 2010 that we were going to have several million people
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  coming across the border every year, welcome to buy the president,
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  including a military age men from China, Russia, Iran, Syria,
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  Hezbollah, Hamas, we're getting ready to create chaos
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  that we would have 24% of California teenagers not quite sure of their gender.
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  A massive suppression of free speech via big tech, social media, et cetera.
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  And mass writing in the streets of America and possibly two stolen major elections.
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  Do you think anybody back in 2010 would have believed that?
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  Probably not.
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  But if you are paying attention back then, this is how communist, we are in a communist revolution.
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  And this is what communists do, they create chaos, they create rights,
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  they twist the minds of kids.
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  They all are things that we're seeing.
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  They owe deliberately open borders and foster mass illegal immigration.
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  All of these are out of the communist playbook.
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  And they're all happening in America today and we're all feeling the impacts of it.
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  So all I'd say is Curtis Bowers was very present.
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  But if he put in what would be happening in 10 years, nobody would have believed it.
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  Because they would see it, are we okay, we can see this Marxism, we're a little bit of it.
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  But when they see the practical impact of it today, they would have believed it in 2010.
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  I can guarantee you that, probably not in 2016, probably not in 2018.
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  But they better believe it now.
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  And the level of infiltration that we've seen.
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  As I think Abraham Lincoln famously said, America will never be overtaken from paraphrasing
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  his quote from other countries, in other words, internationally.
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  We are consumed from within, overtaken from within.
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  And that was a very, very profound.
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  A lot of people have alluded that.
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  I want to mention your latest book and we'll come back to it Trevor.
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  You're in a series called House UnAmericans.
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  And you are in part three, you've gone from part one, Alabama to California,
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  part two, California to Connecticut, and part three of House UnAmericans,
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  Delaware to Illinois, 13 subversive congressmen in this book, in this most recent issue.
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  So you've written about senators, you know, and a great series on security risk senators.
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  And as you famously said, oftentimes, but last time you were on the podcast with us,
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  a lot of senators would not pass a basic background check, but yet they're US senators.
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  Your thoughts on the series from security risk senators to House UnAmericans?
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  Well, I'm covering both the avenues of government.
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  I say there's about 40 members of the Senate who couldn't pass a background check
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  and roughly 100 members of the House, which we are profiling in a series of six books.
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  This is the most intensive drill down into the communist infiltration of our Congress and Senate
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  that's ever been done in America. And you know, the congressman that you see on TV every night,
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  the head of the Homeland Security Committee, like Benny Thompson, the former head of this intelligence
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  committee, like Adam Schiff, deep communist backgrounds, all of them. They are there working for
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  our enemies. And so what we're exposing here is the thesis is this, you know, why do we have open
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  borders? Why do we have indoctrination of kids? Why are the Chinese allowed to buy anything they want
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  and compromise our politicians? Why is Hollywood woke? Why are the churches going woke?
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  It is because we have deep penetration of our Congress and a Senate by foreign intelligence
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  services, communist parties, Islamic groups, and they are turning a blind eye or actively helping
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  the takedown of America. That's the thesis of the book. Because as you said, there are no
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  background checks in Congress. You need a background check to work in the Department of Homeland
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  Security. But Benny Thompson, who was the chair of the Homeland Security Committee, had a 30-year
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  connection to American communism. But that's all right. You know, so what do you think he's going to
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  come after? He's not going to come after Black Lives Matter. He's going to come after people who
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  got themselves, who took selfies in the Capitol Building in January the 6th and declare them
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  the greatest threat that America faces. While Black Lives Matter, a Chinese communist operation
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  burnt cities all over America for weeks, but that's all right. That's just peaceful protest.
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  The communists are running the Congress and in the Senate in key positions and are working to
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  bring us down. And it's been, I think you actually said in a video I watched years ago that
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  they knew America could never be taken down militarily or that wasn't, definitely wasn't the
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  approach they wanted to use. It had to happen from within. And by the way, Trevor's book March 15
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  is the release date. It may come out earlier than that. But March 15, if you want a signed copy
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  of House UnAmericans, go to TrevorLowden.com TrevorLOUDON.com. And the part three in the series of
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  six is coming out around March 15. So Trevor, you said something about Black Lives Matter Global
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  Network Foundation. And let's go back to 2020. Because what we saw, we've never seen that level
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  of lawlessness in America that the open defund the police campaigns, the damage, the millions,
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  perhaps billions of dollars in damage across the country. While people like Kamala Harris and
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  others were bailing out felons, the Minneapolis Freedom Fund and other ways, we've never seen
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  that before. But our own government was telling police to stand down. Just share your insight on
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  that before we go on. Well, you know, this is Occam's razor. What is the simplest explanation
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  for this inexplicable phenomenon? The simplest explanation is Kamala Harris and her friends
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  are in car hoots. Kamala Harris is a very close friend of Alicia Garza, the founder of Black Lives
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  who worked for the Chinese Progressive Association, Communist China's main front in San Francisco.
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  Kamala Harris is part of this group. She's been working with these marvellous communists
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  her entire life. And you know, Jerry Nadler, who was head of the Judiciary Committee at the time,
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  was the man who got Susan Rosenberg, a weather underground terrorist out of jail,
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  so Susan Rosenberg could serve on the on the board of Black Lives Matter International.
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  Jerry Nadler, the card-carrying member of Democratic Socialists of America, the Marxist group
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  that we know of from Rashida Tlaib and AOC and Cory Bush. But we don't know. Most of us don't know that
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  Jerry Nadler has also been a member of this communist group for many years, even though he was overseeing
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  the FBI and the Justice Department through all of those rights. You think the FBI was going to go
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  out and arrest the friends of their boss? No. No. So you've done so much extensive work
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  through all these books and I just want to bring up what we'll come back to House UnAmericans.
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  I want to bring up one that you did I have in my hand White House Reds and I got this from you
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  in person in 2020 in Dallas, Texas. You signed it. I even have my proof there friends. Look at that.
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  In person because I met Trevor. I'd met you previously years ago, but it was good to see you again
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  in August of 2020 at the Liberty Pastors event and they're still doing these events.
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  Trying to wake up pastors and Trevor, that's my next question because we will maybe talk a little
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  bit about enemies within the church, which you were a part of and you were one of the producers,
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  I believe. This is one of the concerns where you and I are talking about Christians in America,
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  the biblical worldview and what's happening with the advance of Marxism and globalism.
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  Where's the church and what about the church and the lack of speaking out from the pulpit
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  on these movements? I know it's concerning to you, but you say there are enemies within. Tell us
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  about that. Well, the churches are the backbone of America. They're the heart of America. They
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  what made America great. Christianity made America great. There's no even an atheist would have
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  to acknowledge that. So the very first Communist Party front in America was the Methodist
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  Federation for Social Action set up by Harry Ward of Union Theological Seminary.
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  A Communist, the Communist Party member. So right from the start and even by the time of the
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  Bolshevik Revolution, they were infiltrating America's churches and they went right into the
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  the mainstream churches of Piscopalian's Methodist very early on. They went into the Catholic church
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  that was revealed by Bala Dada, former Communist who went back to a Catholic faith and testified.
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  Before Congress to that effect put a, she put 1100 young Communists into the Catholic Church.
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  And so this is carried on and now but the horrific thing is now they are working inside the
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  evangelical churches, even the Southern Baptists. And you look at it from a Communist point of view.
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  You know, it's those conservative Christians who voted for Ronald Reagan. It was those
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  conservative Christians who elect the Donald Trump, both of whom set back the Communist movement
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  quite considerably. Do you think it might have annoyed the American Communists that these
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  evangelicals and these Baptists are voting so conservatively? Well, maybe it would be a good idea
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  to get inside the Bible colleges and inside the seminaries and indoctrinate the youth pastors
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  to turn out a generation of left-wing Baptists and left-wing evangelicals, which is exactly
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  what we're seeing now. All those young evangelicals who used to love Israel now love Palestine.
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  You know, they've switched to the Communist cause. They don't understand that. You know,
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  they love Black Lives Matter. They love, they're all about anti-racism. They're all woke.
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  Wokism is Marxism. And so, yes, we are in huge trouble. America's in trouble and the churches
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  in trouble because the good-heartedness of Christians and the little bit of naivety and lack of
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  disarmament we see with some has allowed the Marxists to penetrate even the evangelical churches
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  now, even the Southern Baptists. Yes, I agree. We'll take a pause right there. The good-heartedness
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  of Christians and many of us naivety, the lack of discernment. Oh, my goodness, a lot of issues
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  facing the church that's been under attack. But we're with Trevor Loudon and you can get his latest
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  book in just a little bit a couple of weeks away or less at Trevor Loudon.com. If you want to
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  signed copy, we're going to talk about Amazon when we come back. I have a question I want to ask
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  him about that. But we're going to take a break on World View Matters. We'll be right back with Trevor
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  Loudon is our guest today. Before we get back to his series of books House on Americans, Trevor
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  over on the website for enemies within the church. Fascinating page called Wokeipedia or Woke
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  Tell us about that. I think that's a great idea. Well look, people go to church, you know,
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  say somebody might, they went to church when they're kid, they drifted away, they want to come back,
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  they're in their 20s, they want some spiritual direction. So they go to the church down the road.
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  And they don't hear anything about how or the Old Testament or repentance or sin. But they do hear
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  a whole bunch about their white privilege and welcoming refugees and ending global warming
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  and wealth risk, you know, social justice and wealth redistribution. And they think this is
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  Christianity. So we are identifying these woke pastors, we're identifying where they come from
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  the institutions that are turning them out, the lies that they spread and putting it on Wokeipedia.
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  So you can go and look up your local pastor, you can go and look up the Bible college that he or she
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  came from. So that you will have an idea and you can be warned and get the heck out of there as
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  quick as you possibly can. So you don't get sucked into this because a lot of young people don't
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  know the difference. They don't know what real biblical Christianity is. So they go to church,
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  they get taught Marxism and they don't know the difference. They think they're on the way
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  to salvation, but they're not. They're going somewhere else. And can I just add something?
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  Yes, I'm very quick. This is something I've been pondering a lot lately that I'm
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  counting with a lot of Christians. I say, well, we shouldn't get involved in politics. We should
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  as a dirty game. It's not our focus. Look, here's my argument, James 417, for he who knows the right
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  thing to do and does not do it for him, it is a sin. Now, we would all acknowledge that it's
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  the right thing to do to save somebody who's drowning in a river. And you don't, you're sinning.
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  We would all acknowledge that it's the right thing to do to save your church if it's under threat.
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  We would all acknowledge that it's the right thing to do to save your town if it's being flooded or
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  threatened by a fire. It's your Christian duty to help out and save your family, save your
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  community, save your church. So why is it not a Christian's responsibility to save your country?
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  Amen. So if you're not saving your country, are you sinning?
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  For he who knows the right thing to do but does not do it for him, it is a sin.
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  It is right to save America. The first country in world history that says man's rights come from
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  God, not from the government, that has done more good in the world, built more churches, built more
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  hospitals, saved more people from tyranny than any other. It is the most God-fearing country on
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  the planet, basically, in the Western world anyway, despite the propaganda to the country.
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  And this country is under threat and you as a Christian think you have no responsibility
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  towards saving it. I say you're sinning. Do you set a little hash?
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  No, no, I like it. I like it. If you love your neighbor, you'd be concerned that their
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  country is being destroyed. Their children are being assaulted in the public school system,
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  the government run schools, and they're just being taught all these demonic ideologies.
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  But that's for another show, Trevor. You said something, you know, Paul Blair,
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  Pastor Paul Blair talks a lot about compartmentalizing your faith. In other words, you can't leave
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  Jesus in the car when you go in the voting booth and vote on election day. You can't separate
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  your life like that. But a lot of Christians have been somehow taught that they should just be
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  concerned of certain, certain moral issues when they call abortion or same-sex marriage or
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  socialism. They call those political issues. I know you've already talked about that. I've never
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  understood the oxymoron of the liberal left or the Christian left, the liberal Christian. I just
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  don't understand that at all. It is not Christian, someone like a Jim Wallace, right? I don't call
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  him the Reverend Jim Wallace. The Christian, your thoughts on that, what they're saying? No, no,
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  you guys should stay away from politics. Well, these are moral issues. Go ahead.
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  It's only staying away from conservative politics. If you're a Marxist like Jim Wallace's,
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  you can be as left-wing and political as you want to be because that's just Christianity.
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  Christ was a socialist, they will tell you. So that's all right. It's just the conservative
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  politics they don't want you to be involved in. And my view is a Christian should be conservative.
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  You can't be a socialist in a Christian. If you're a socialist in a Christian, you either don't
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  understand Christianity or you don't understand socialism or both. If your views, you know,
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  Christianity is pro-family. It's pro-productivity. It's pro-the work ethic. It's pro-life. It's all
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  of these things. That's what conservatives are. They want to conserve what we have been given
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  through our Christian heritage. That's what the interests of a conservative. So you shouldn't be
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  calling yourself a Christian, then going voting for pro-abortion politicians or well-three
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  distribution politicians or open borders politicians for he who will not protect his own family
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  like with borders is worse than an infidel. You know, what happened to the Israelites when they forgot
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  to build a wall around their city? You know, are there any lessons in the Old Testament
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  how to run a country? Are there any national security lessons in the Old Testament? I would say
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  there's lots. There's lots. Which is why the won't Christians very much de-emphasize the Old Testament.
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  Very much. Oh, the anti-standlies and others. He's a poster of child for a walk of media, right?
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  Oh, I'll look exactly. You know, you're not bound by the sexual morality of the Old Testament.
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  This is what he'll tell you. Well, where does he, what gives him the right to make that determination?
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  Where does this, where does he, how does he justify that? That's his own personal preference
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  that he's giving a biblical veneer to. But that's all it is. Yeah. And we've seen, I mean, some of
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  the Barna research they've come out with only, I think it was 37% of American pastors have a
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  biblical worldview. When it comes to youth pastors, Trevor Loudon, I know you've seen these numbers
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  as well. Only 12 or 13% of youth pastors have a biblical worldview. What are they? They're
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  entertaining the kids and keeping them occupied in youth group. Now, they're also in doctorating.
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  Go ahead. We're also in doctorating the kids. Yes. I was talking to a lady in Georgia just the
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  other day. And she was sending her boy, as you're funny, you should mention Andy Stanley,
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  to a youth group of Andy Stanley's church. And he came back, they said, I'm not going there, Mom.
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  I'm not going back there. And she said, why? Why? They spent all the time calling me a racist.
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  I'm a racist. They just kept on that I am a racist. There was nothing, it was learning nothing
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  from the Bible. He was just learning Marxist race fading to make him to so guilt amount
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  about being white that he would start accepting Black Lives Matter and become an active
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  anti-racist. That means the Marxist with a little bit of Christianity sprinkled on top.
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  I know we talked about in the previous podcast of Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation
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  that they're not just about supporting equality, their anti-family, anti-Christian, their
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  anti-American, their founders were Marxist. And it goes on down the road. But anyway, back to
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  Chinese Marxists. We got to remember that. Absolutely. The Chinese are part of that Black Lives Matter.
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  So over on Amazon, your books are available. My books are available. And which is good.
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  These people can get them there. But if you want to sign to copy, friends, go to TrevorLoudon.com.
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  Trevor on YouTube. And I've had some videos deleted because it didn't meet community standards.
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  I know you've probably had videos deleted. Maybe your account on YouTube has you've been warned.
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  I've been shadow banned for years on Facebook. The question is Amazon. What Amazon still
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  allows us to have our books on there. Give me some insight into that. Do you have any thoughts on that?
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  Well, you know, this is a business and Jeff Bezos wants to make money. A lot of these,
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  he's probably a bit more independently wealthy than some others. So it depends on your degree of
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  working with China. Like Nike, for instance, is heavily dependent on China for workers,
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  market, etc. So Nike is what drives the woke sport movements. You know, the football players
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  take in the knee and having drag queens at their shows, at their games and this kind of thing.
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  So Bezos is not quite in China's pocket, like some of the other major things are. So he wants to
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  make money. So we'll still sell our books for now anyway. But I'm always waiting for the day,
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  you know, where even that avenue is closed from us, but closed to us. So that's why I'm trying to
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  you too. You were trying to establish our own market, our own relationship with customers.
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  For the day that Amazon will no longer stock our materials. Well, we haven't done it to that,
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  but we got to acknowledge that it may. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we're not saying if we're saying
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  more, most likely when, but we'll see. So TrevorLoudon.com, what else people can get your information
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  in the series, White House. I'm sorry, House UnAmericans. I'm thinking about the book, White House
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  Reds. But what else, you have articles on your website. Trevor, I'm sure they can sign up to
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  get a newsletter. Go ahead and tell us what else they can do. Let's get some transition in my
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  moment. We've had some technical difficulties. We're trying to get that reestablished with the
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  newsletter. But people can go to my daily blog, my Facebook page, etc. But you know, and I have,
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  you know, I'm working on some podcasts and that coming up in the near future. But yeah,
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  there's a lot, lot going, but I'm really focusing on getting these books out there. This is my
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  argument, David. They can shut down the internet any time. They can, my website key wiki has
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  been attacked multiple times where I have a lot of these profiles. But if you have a hard copy
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  exposing all your local congressmen sitting in your library at home,
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  thousands of copies all over the country sitting in people's libraries, they can't shut that down.
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  That's why books are still king. You know, we all love the internet, but a hard copy paper book
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  that you can reference at any time that that information cannot be taken away, that's still
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  some problem. Amen, brother. And as a fellow author, yes. Well, imagine if it was no hard copies
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  of the Bible. How long do you think it would be before they took it off the internet?
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  That's right. That's a good point. I mean, they took it out of public schools in the 60s. Yeah,
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  that's funny. There was a quote from one of your articles. I, we ran out of time, but I really
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  wanted to get to it at Trevor Loudon.com on globalism being a replacement ideology. It's the
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  phenomenal quote from your article. It's not yours. I forgot. Do you remember the author of
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  that one, Trevor, because I really like that. It's good smith. Yes. Good. Yes. So one of the top
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  articles on your website, go check that out. Friends a lot of great information and Trevor's books.
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  Brother, I appreciate your voice, your work. And as long as if Jesus doesn't return in the near
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  future, and we've got breath in our lungs and a beating heart, and we can still talk. We're going
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  to keep on speaking the truth. And that's what I appreciate and love about you. Thank you for your
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  ministry and all that you do. Look, truth telling the truth takes courage. Courage comes from faith.
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  Faith pleases God. That's the formula. Amen. Amen. Lord willing, we'll talk to you in the near
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  future, brother. Thank you. Keep up the great work. Thanks so much, David. Real pleasure.
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  All right. Thank you. All right. Trevor, loud and guys, what a blessing to get to
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  glean from some of the expert guests we have on this program. And thank you for sharing it for
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  supporting the show. And for praying, you know, there's a dynamic of spiritual warfare that
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  we don't often talk about. But if you speak the truth, you will get attacked. But thank you for
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  sharing the show. God bless you. And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that man.