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The Late Debate | 17 September · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Base.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with Frei Leach and James Willis. Here's what's coming up tonight.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: Is it wrong to keep fish in an aquarium inside
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: a nightclub? And animal rights activist is taking on a
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: couple of late night hotspots. We'll have an argument about
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  Speaker 2: that soon in the papers. A betting scandal has broken
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  Speaker 2: out in the NRL. Exclusive details in Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph.
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  Speaker 2: And last night we brought you news of anti aging
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  Speaker 2: drugs for dogs, and tonight we have more from the canines.
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  Speaker 3: God bly with me.
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  Speaker 2: We'll fly, We'll fly.
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  Speaker 4: Where.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the first Australian plane tickets for dogs have gone
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  Speaker 2: on sale.
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  Speaker 1: More on that later.
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  Speaker 2: But first, when is your money your money? Apparently not
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  Speaker 2: when it belongs to the Commonwealth Bank, or so one
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  Speaker 2: woman has found out because she went down to a
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  Speaker 2: bank brunch. She was lucky to be able to find one,
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  Speaker 2: but anyway she managed to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Went down to the Bank.
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  Speaker 2: Bruanch and said, excuse me, I'd like to take out
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  Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars for some renovations going on at my home.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to pay the.
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  Speaker 2: Trades in cash, and so I would like to collect
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  Speaker 2: my money in cash, and the bank said to her, no,
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  Speaker 2: you need to give us proof of the fact that
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  Speaker 2: you're going to spend this money on the trades.
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  Speaker 5: Here she is.
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  Speaker 6: She basically said, you have to give us a proof
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  Speaker 6: or a reason. I've given you a reason. I'm building
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  Speaker 6: and I like to pay my trades in cash. And
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  Speaker 6: she goes, yeah, that's not good enough. We need proof.
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  Speaker 6: If I just want to withdraw ten thousand dollars to
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  Speaker 6: go to the casino tomorrow night and just have a
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  Speaker 6: great night, go to a find only restaurant, buy myself Lubertin's,
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  Speaker 6: and a Chanel Bank, and you know, I spend all
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  Speaker 6: my money, gamble it away.
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  Speaker 2: You know again, it's my money.
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  Speaker 7: I can do whatever I want.
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  Speaker 6: And then she looks at that lady next to her
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  Speaker 6: at the teller, and then that lady, you know, she
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  Speaker 6: steps in and she goes, we wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 6: give ten thousand dollars if you were going to the casino.
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  Speaker 2: I mean's her money. Why can't she just get her
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  Speaker 2: hands on it? I understand the tell them I'd ask
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  Speaker 2: some questions to make sure that she's not being scammed.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, at least she says, yes, I'm taking
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  Speaker 2: out twenty thousand dollars to go and buy Apple gift
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  Speaker 2: cards so I can send it to some guy in India.
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  Speaker 2: What business is it of the bank to be telling
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  Speaker 2: her that she must come in with written proof of
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  Speaker 2: what she is going to spend her own money on.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, that point she makes as well
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  Speaker 2: about spending ten grand at the casino. What job is
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  Speaker 2: it of the bank to say that you can't go
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  Speaker 2: and spend ten grand at the casino. It's my money, James,
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  Speaker 2: I should be able to do it.
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  Speaker 3: I want with it well, and the thing is, And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, it's not just the CBA. When when
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  Speaker 3: banks make a decision, they all follow. The big banks
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  Speaker 3: work in a pack on these things. And to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the government minds because I think the
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  Speaker 3: government is of the view and I'm not saying this
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  Speaker 3: for trade's watching or anything else, but the government is
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  Speaker 3: of the view that the tax economy is linked to people, sorry,
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  Speaker 3: the cash economy is linked to people not paying enough tax.
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  Speaker 3: And so they've allowed the banks to shut branches, to
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  Speaker 3: close ATMs. To miracle this lady could find a branch
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  Speaker 3: the way from it going at the moment. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: still of the view that if it's your money, and
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  Speaker 3: the main reason they do this as well, the bank
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  Speaker 3: says to prevent fraud, But if it's you with your ID,
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  Speaker 3: you should be able to pull out every last cent
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  Speaker 3: if you want to put it in your mattress, buryed
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  Speaker 3: in your backyard. So be it's your money, you want
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  Speaker 3: to pull it out, put in another bank, just go
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  Speaker 3: for it. The fact that there's such strict limits and
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  Speaker 3: they ask you what you're going to spend your own
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  Speaker 3: money on, I think is a real problem. But it
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  Speaker 3: shows that ultimately you don't really own your money when
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  Speaker 3: it's in the bank.
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  Speaker 8: Well, you can pull out up to four thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 8: I believe, so you can get two grand out of
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  Speaker 8: the ATM and two grand from Mattella. You can do
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  Speaker 8: that every single day, getting four grand out in cash
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  Speaker 8: every day. That's not that bad, I think when when
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  Speaker 8: you see people trying to get twenty thousand dollars at
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  Speaker 8: like whin do you need that much cashing tree in cash?
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  Speaker 8: What kind of tax are you trying to avoid paying?
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to do a favor for the trading.
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  Speaker 7: No, but that is not fair.
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  Speaker 8: We all have to pay our fair share of tax,
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  Speaker 8: so that makes.
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  Speaker 2: It fair for you to not be able to get
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  Speaker 2: your hands one.
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  Speaker 8: We lose sixteen billion dollars in tax revenue as a
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  Speaker 8: country every single year because of the shadow cash economy.
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  Speaker 8: Now I'm not anti cash by any means, but i
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  Speaker 8: do think that we should all be paying our fair
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  Speaker 8: share of tax, and.
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  Speaker 2: So in order to make that happen, we should have
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  Speaker 2: restrictions on access to our own money.
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  Speaker 8: Well, you can still access it, they just want in
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  Speaker 8: four thousand dollars increase.
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  Speaker 2: But why should that that? Why should there be any
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  Speaker 2: limit whatsoever? It is my money. I, as a customer
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  Speaker 2: at a bank, pay for a service which is for
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  Speaker 2: them to look after that money while it's in my account.
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  Speaker 2: But why does that give them the right to think
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  Speaker 2: so you can only have four grand of it every day?
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  Speaker 7: Caleb?
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  Speaker 8: The whole banking system operates on the premise the banks
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  Speaker 8: don't actually have your money. Money looks like it's sitting
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  Speaker 8: in your account, but the banks are actually lending it out.
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  Speaker 7: To other people.
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  Speaker 8: Sure, they're investing it like they don't have your money
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  Speaker 8: there They don't have unlimited cash for people to withdraw
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  Speaker 8: sitting there, So this makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think Australia I feel like in other countries
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  Speaker 3: that I've visited, I think Australia is really an island
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  Speaker 3: on this kind of stuff. I think in other parts
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  Speaker 3: of the world cash is still key. There's places where
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  Speaker 3: you can't pay with a card, often in bars and restaurants.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you've got to tip people as well. Till
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  Speaker 3: about five minutes the cash economy in the US, up
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  Speaker 3: til about five minutes ago, they were still paying for
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  Speaker 3: everything with checks.
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  Speaker 1: You go to the shop and write at a check.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: But if this is the standard that you can't access
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  Speaker 2: your own money, I don't know. Look beyond the advantage
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  Speaker 2: of being able to get some interest, maybe I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why you'd bother having your money in the bank.
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  Speaker 2: You may as well have it under the mattress where
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  Speaker 2: it's safe from anyone else who wants to dictate what
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  Speaker 2: you do with.
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  Speaker 3: Four thousand dollars doesn't get your bathroom floor these days
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  Speaker 3: with tradinges, I mean, couldn't be a little bit higher.
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  Speaker 3: Go on for if the training wants cash, you've got
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  Speaker 3: to pay cash right, paying them in cash because it's
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  Speaker 3: good on them, it's free. It's it's a market tender.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, as carry pack aren'try correct, Kerry packer
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  Speaker 2: won't said any person who's paying a scent more tax
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  Speaker 2: that they need to needs their head rid and if.
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  Speaker 1: You can find a way to get around it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it. No, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a problem.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think he was encouraging tax evasion when he
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  Speaker 8: said that. He was still saying pay a fash shat.
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  Speaker 8: I trainees in twenty grand cash. They can't pay tax.
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  Speaker 8: That's very different. That's not paying a fashat. I'm happy illegal.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a lot of traders that have been watching. We
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  Speaker 3: should say they do pay their tax and the very
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  Speaker 3: workers and they get up very early. Yes, we love
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  Speaker 3: our trading audience watching it high.
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  Speaker 2: But you know if they save a couple of bucks
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  Speaker 2: on the way, no skin I have to say, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about those scenes we just saw through the
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  Speaker 2: last hour. Paul Murray, of course, was showing out of
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  Speaker 2: the UK, Donald Trump, the prison of the United States
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  Speaker 2: and the first Lady Millennia have gone over for their
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  Speaker 2: second state via of course, seeing King Charles and Queen Camilla,
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  Speaker 2: and of course they're the Prince and Princess of Wales
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  Speaker 2: as well. They've gone to Windsor Castle because Buckingham Palace,
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  Speaker 2: which is where they went last time, is currently being renovated.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder whether they're playing paying their tradees in twenty
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  Speaker 2: grand installments that they're taking out of the bankage day
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  Speaker 2: to avoid the tax. But anyway, they're over there having
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  Speaker 2: a gay old time. And Trump, as we know, loves
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  Speaker 2: the pomp and ceremony and all this stuff, so he
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  Speaker 2: would be loving himself sick what I couldn't get over though,
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  Speaker 2: And this is just getting away from the vision that
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  Speaker 2: we've seen, like this is a genuine news event, and
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  Speaker 2: most news channels were running that coverage as we were.
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  Speaker 2: Of course we had it. Sky News UK, our sister
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  Speaker 2: channel over there was running it. GB News had it,
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  Speaker 2: Fox News in the US had it. But ABC here
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  Speaker 2: they've got a news channel twenty four, our news channel.
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  Speaker 2: They just had a little box in the corner with
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  Speaker 2: a bit of footage running in the background. CNN, until
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  Speaker 2: about ten minutes before we went to air, had not shown.
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  Speaker 1: A single frame of this.
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  Speaker 2: This is a news channel in the United States had
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  Speaker 2: not shown a single frame of their president going to
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  Speaker 2: meet the Royal family, like this is a big news event.
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  Speaker 2: MASNBC just had a little box in the corner. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't nail your colors to the mast any more clearly.
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  Speaker 1: Could you?
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  Speaker 2: That we're basically just going to ignore the fact that
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  Speaker 2: for the first time in history, the American president is
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  Speaker 2: getting a second state visit with the Royal family.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's because the left wing media in the US
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  Speaker 8: cannot give Trump any wins. They will not acknowledge anything
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  Speaker 8: impressive that he has achieved. This is objectively, this is
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  Speaker 8: a world first for US president to receive a full
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  Speaker 8: second state visit. They are not sparing any expense, pulling
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  Speaker 8: out all the bells and whistles. I mean, thousands of
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  Speaker 8: people were involved in that military parade. This has been
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  Speaker 8: planned for months and ultimately this is because the UK
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  Speaker 8: realizes they actually do need to suck up to Trump
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  Speaker 8: if they want to get good outcomes on trade, on defense,
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  Speaker 8: and strengthening their relationship. It's a lesson I think our
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  Speaker 8: government could learn. But yeah, the US media, they don't
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  Speaker 8: want to give Trump any wins. This is objectively a win.
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  Speaker 8: This shows that the international community is not treating Trump
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  Speaker 8: like a pariah, which is what the left wing media wants.
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  Speaker 8: They're sucking up because they have to.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and given what we saw from one of the
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  Speaker 3: ABC journalists today and his questioning of Donald Trump, and
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  Speaker 3: given what you remember when the King's coronation occurred, the
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  Speaker 3: coverage and the fact that they were almost apologizing for
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  Speaker 3: having to show this coverage, and the amount of complaints.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they've got hundreds, if not thousands of complaints
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  Speaker 3: for the way they covered this and made it all
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  Speaker 3: about First Nations people instead of just being allowed to
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  Speaker 3: sort of overwhelmingly celebrate what was going on. It's to
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  Speaker 3: their loss because they are amazing photos. It's a great
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  Speaker 3: escape from some of the troubles of the world. But
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  Speaker 3: the wider issue and Freyer, I agree with you. This
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  Speaker 3: is a great example of where the UK and the
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  Speaker 3: US feel they sit in their relationship with each other. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: we don't know who we're friends with. One moment, we're
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  Speaker 3: in the Pacific trying to catch up with China. The
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  Speaker 3: next minute we're trying to suck up to China and
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  Speaker 3: say everything is good there. Starmer has met with Trump
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  Speaker 3: twice already. This will be the third meeting. We're apparently
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: now only getting our first meeting. But our relationship with
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  Speaker 3: the US has really gone backwards under the Albanezi government.
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  Speaker 3: And you see these two countries today showing why it's
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  Speaker 3: so important.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll have that meeting with Starma. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: basically hoping that this will steady the ship for in
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  Speaker 2: front of for a little while with all the leadership troubles,
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  Speaker 2: he's potentially facing himself. And I think what this proves
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  Speaker 2: is what Donald Trump has done to put the US
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  Speaker 2: back on the map as a world force. Because you
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  Speaker 2: could argue, particularly under Biden, but you know, in the
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  Speaker 2: last fifteen years, as the US has sort of slowly
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  Speaker 2: pulled out of wars and had unsuccessful wars through the
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  Speaker 2: Middle East, the influence of the United States facing a
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  Speaker 2: rising China as well has been diminished somewhat. But Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump has really put the US back on the map.
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  Speaker 2: I said, we are here to take the fight up
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  Speaker 2: to China and to be the natural ally for people
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  Speaker 2: in the West, countries in the West to go to,
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  Speaker 2: to deal with, to do business with, to make friends with,
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  Speaker 2: because he can see that if he doesn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: It is China that will move in.
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  Speaker 2: And this is proof of just how well Trump has
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  Speaker 2: done that and managed to get people to come and
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  Speaker 2: kiss the ring and say, actually, the US does still have.
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  Speaker 3: A role to play.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 8: And it's the shift away from this sort of liberal
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  Speaker 8: international order back to a realism that says, actually, really
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  Speaker 8: the two countries that matter most in the world are
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  Speaker 8: the US and China. That is the great competition lies.
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  Speaker 8: Pick aside, pin your flags to the mast, and there
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  Speaker 8: is going to be conflict. There's going to be competition,
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  Speaker 8: and everyone has to pick aside, and you better be
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  Speaker 8: on the US side otherwise you're in for a lot
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  Speaker 8: of pain.
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  Speaker 7: But I think for.
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  Speaker 8: Sarma as well, I mean, he's going to be hoping
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  Speaker 8: that this is what saves his prime ministership. Obviously he's
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  Speaker 8: had he's sacked the British ambassador to the US, the
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  Speaker 8: deputy prime minister's been forced to resign, his head of
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  Speaker 8: strategy has resigned. They've lost a third of their labor
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  Speaker 8: voters since they got elected fourteen months ago. So his
• 12:34
  Speaker 8: prime ministership is hanging on by a thread. Now he's
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  Speaker 8: going to hope that projecting this strong relationship with the
• 12:40
  Speaker 8: US might be the thing that keeps him in power.
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  Speaker 8: But I mean, when your alternative is Nigel Farage, whose
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  Speaker 8: best is with Trump, I don't think this is going
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  Speaker 8: to do it for him.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, I think is that the weeks
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  Speaker 3: go on and there was the initial reaction to the
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: tariffs from Trump and how significant that was. But there's
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  Speaker 3: one thing that's going to hell and encourage and incentivize
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  Speaker 3: local business to kickstart manufacturing, which, by the way, we
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: need here much more than the United States needs, and
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: that's to make it harder to import things from overseas
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  Speaker 3: just for final or have jobs offshore. So look, as
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  Speaker 3: time goes on, that will be Trump's legacy and it
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  Speaker 3: will pay dividends for the US in my view.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 8: Well, let's move on to the US now, where the
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  Speaker 8: accused assassin of Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, appeared in court
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  Speaker 8: in Utah for the first time. And also we received
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  Speaker 8: a trove of text messages between Tyler Robinson and his
• 13:37
  Speaker 8: lover roommate was a transgender person, a man transitioning to
• 13:43
  Speaker 8: become a woman. Now, what was interesting about these messages
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  Speaker 8: They were communicating right after he allegedly shot Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 8: The coverage of these messages from some left wing media
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  Speaker 8: outlets is honest, mind blowing. This was a lefty at
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  Speaker 8: the ABC in the US gushing of how intimate and
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  Speaker 8: loving the text messages between Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin and
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  Speaker 8: his roommate were.
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  Speaker 9: So what do I think about Charlie Kirk and obviously
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  Speaker 9: his assassination. I think he was a pretty awful person
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  Speaker 9: and he doesn't deserve all the recognition he's getting. It
• 14:30
  Speaker 9: would have been best to not have him assassinated and
• 14:34
  Speaker 9: for him to remain a footnote in the Trumpian era
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  Speaker 9: of the United States. Charlie Kirk got shot, and he's
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  Speaker 9: RIP whatever you want RIP to stand for.
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  Speaker 8: So that was not Tyler Robinson's trans roommate. That was,
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  Speaker 8: in fact, Senator Fatima Payman from Australia essentially saying that
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  Speaker 8: she was, you know, Charlie Kirk was a horrible person,
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  Speaker 8: which objectively is untrue. She obviously provides no evidence to
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  Speaker 8: substantiate that claim, and then says RIP interpret the p
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  Speaker 8: to mean what you want. I can't help but think
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  Speaker 8: that is a reference to Bob Villan who said rest
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  Speaker 8: in piss instead of rest in peace. Now her family
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  Speaker 8: fled Afghanistan because of the Taliban. Now she's coming here
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  Speaker 8: to it Australia. She's an elected member of our parliament
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  Speaker 8: and she's making a mockery of someone who was assassinated
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  Speaker 8: for exercising their right to freedom of speech.
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  Speaker 7: That is just so wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And also potentially a dual citizen by the way, which
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: that question has never been answered, because as you would
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: well remember a few years ago, we had all these
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: people to that were dual citizens and had to go
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: to by elections at sea because constitutionally that's not allowed.
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  Speaker 2: And she says that she's written to Afghanistan and asked
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: them to received to her citizenship over there, but we
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: don't actually know whether they've done it or not, so
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: technically she may well be Illegally she is still so,
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  Speaker 2: and no one's doing anything about it.
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  Speaker 3: So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: She probably shouldn't be in the job in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: But I think this just to squalifies her even more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is someone I'm sure I'm right in saying
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  Speaker 3: one because of the Labor Party and then left the
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Labor Party after you know, the election is now standing
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  Speaker 3: because of their views and not, you know, being two
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  Speaker 3: in favor of Palestine. I mean, you can just you
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: could just imagine if someone someone made a comment about that,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: regarding someone in her stratosphere, they'd be called, you know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: islam as islamophobic and everything else. It's just horrible. And again,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: why are we seeing so many examples of prominent people
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: mocking and joking about someone that's died.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm kind of glad they've done it, because at
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: least we know now they're marked. We know who these
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: people are. We've seen who they really are. Believe it
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: when they tell you who they are. We've got that
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: to grab back from ABC News in the United States.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: The reporter is Mattman. This is him describing the text
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: messages sent by the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson to his lover,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: his roommate transgender.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Here it is.
• 17:10
  Speaker 10: It was very touching in a way that I think
• 17:11
  Speaker 10: many of us didn't expect, a very intimate tortuit into
• 17:14
  Speaker 10: this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself,
• 17:20
  Speaker 10: with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling
• 17:25
  Speaker 10: him my love and I want to protect you.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: My lover, they strike me, pink, Could you do any
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: more to try and humanize the guy?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And yes, it's alleged. You know that the law assumes
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that he's.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Innocent, But you don't go on with text messages that
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: basically damn the guy before the cases even stagger. Oh,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: it was just a touching, touching moment between him and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: his lover.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: The guys accused of murdering someone, and.
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: The only reason he was sending those text messages, well
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: partly was to make it clear. I guess that the
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: roommate was not involved in the assassination. He doesn't care
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: about the well being of his trans lover. He cares
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: about keeping him out of jail because they would be going.
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: Did you know about the assassination before it happened, So
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: we can't have sympathy for a cold blooded, psychotic alleged assassin.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is all alleged, But when I read
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: these texts, it seems this is someone that wasn't showing
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of remorse. The only remorse was whether or
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: not he could get the family gun back from the
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: hiding spot, because it was Grandpa's gun and he wanted
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: to make sure and then suddenly it was too late.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know what text that ABC reporter was referring to,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: must be a different version of texts that I've seen,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: because there was nothing nice about it, and all he
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: cared about was getting the gun back.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Just just extraordinary the links these people will go to
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: either justify in some cases, as we've shown you plenty
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: of time, celebrate the murder of someone in cold blood.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: It is just shocking.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Let's go down to Adelaide, of course, my hometown, where
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: a couple of nightclubs are in trouble because apparently they've
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: been cruel to fish. This was a report on Channel
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: seven last night where animal activist Tyler Clear says that
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: a number of nightclubs have installed aquariums and well they
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: need to be dealt.
• 19:16
  Speaker 11: With blights that are going off all through the night,
• 19:22
  Speaker 11: mess with the fisher's circadian rhythm.
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: Tyler Claire wants the fish rehomed, insisting they don't belong
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: in a nightclub surrounded by blaring music, flashing lights, and
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: drunken crowns.
• 19:35
  Speaker 11: All of the fish were gapings, had their mouths wide
• 19:38
  Speaker 11: open for the entire time I was there, which is
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: a clear sign of stress.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: So the two nightclubs in question here are the Atlantis
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Bar and mister kims Will, the owner of Atlantis Bar,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: says he's done everything possible to make sure there is
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: no cruel.
• 19:54
  Speaker 12: We got fifty mil thick acrylic glass, we got twenty
• 19:58
  Speaker 12: five thousand liters of water. The fish can't hear nothing.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: He says.
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: Two marine biologists signed off on the aquarium.
• 20:05
  Speaker 12: When he built the tank, they had people in there
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: trying to listen with the music blurring, and they had
• 20:12
  Speaker 12: dB readers.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he's got the marine biologists in there
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: to look at it and they say it's fine, what's
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the problem. Some people, I think are just opposed to fun.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: If he wants to have an aquarium in his bar, why.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Can't he have an aquarium in his bar?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you heard the activists. The fish were gaping.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Their mouths were open from like something at lunar parts
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: from right to left, and therefore they were in paint.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: The fish might have been eating, by the way, that
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: might have been the reason the mouths were open. But look,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the other thing that people forget with all this is
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: that a lot of fish in this case would surely
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: be bred to be in tanks right, Like, they're an
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: aquarium industry. So if you shut the industry down, there's
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: unfortunately going to be a lot of animals that die.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: If you don't like it, don't go mind you. There
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: are enough animals in nightclubs as it is.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: That is a very good that is that is a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: very good point.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: It doesn't grab me though you're really going to go
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: to an adu, you wouldn't.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: We'll let to see the animals doing the grabbing in
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the nightclubs.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But and the other thing is I mean, if we're
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: going to start saying, oh, it's too noisy for the
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: fish in the nightclubs, I mean what about people go
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: with this speedboat to go and do some fishing.
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: Oh no, you've got to turn your engine.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Off because the fish in the sea are annoyed by
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Get over.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: But that's where this goes. Now.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: Actually, he the owner of the nightclub, made a good
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: point that they did decibel test this. They've got thick
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: glass and then you got all the water. And notice
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: the activists didn't actually complain about the noise. What she
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: complained about was the lights because of their circadian rhythm. Well,
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: if it's a nightclub and it's empty during the day,
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: wouldn't it be dark during the day, and then they
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: can have the lights at night, So why don't they
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: just adapt to a new nightclub friendly time zone?
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I also feel like Australia has made such length, such
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: growth in animal rights, and I think we've actually been fantastic.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: And yet you have people that go to the races
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: every Saturday and out the front covered in blood, people
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: that don't want you to eat meat, people that are
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: saying we shouldn't have zoos, we shouldn't have circuses, And
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: it just gets to a point where they don't want
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you to have too much fun.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: So that's the point I think they are just like
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: they have an issue with fun. I mean, has anyone
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: asked the fish they love living in a nutclub? I mean,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: it would be a pretty fun place to live.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Now. I'm not sure this is meant to be the
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: consequence of net zero, but there is a story that's
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: going in the Daily Telegraph tomorrow regards to solar pans. Now,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the agreeent energy industry says over and over again, Australians
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: love solar. Four million people have solar panels on their roof. Well,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: it turns out that despite promising to do something about
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: this several years ago, the state and federal government have
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: not engaged in a recycling program, a mandatory recycling program.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: So sixty thousand tons of solar panels ending up in
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the tip every year, just like this. This is from
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Regional New South Wales, a photo that was sent in
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to us. They're being resold for five dollars. People are
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: getting new panels. There's really good incentives, taxpayer funded incentives
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: in this space. And the government saying, oh, sixty thousand
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: tons of panels a year are being thrown out and
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: they can be recycled, but at the moment they're just
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: ending up in the tip. I mean, is this really
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: what net zero is meant to be all about? I
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: love it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I think this is brilliant. Not because it's all ending
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: up in landfill is probably not great, but it just
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: proves what a scam this whole thing is. It is
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: not actually about saving the environment. It's about lining the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: pockets of people who sell the dream of saving the environment.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: You know, if it was really about saving the environment,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't see these kinds of things. If it was
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: really about saving the environment, we wouldn't see all these
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: wind turbines that get decommissioned and then just sort of
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: dumped out the back of burke somewhere and in the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: hope that no one will notice.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: That they're there.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: All the heavy metals that go into making these things.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Is that we think are who cares, We'll just dump
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: it and see how we go. We're lining the pockets
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of China on the way. I'm increasingly of the view
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that this whole renewable energy thing, apart from the fact
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: that there is some legitimacy in it, but the way
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it has been pushed upon us is just a great
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: scheme to redistribute wealth from poor people into the hands
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: of rich people, particularly people in China, who are taking
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: us for a ride. And then we have to pay
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: the price for it, not only in dollars.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But in having to clean up the mess afterwards too.
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: And look, sixty thousand tons of solar panels ending up
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: in landfill.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: That is actually huge.
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: To put that into perspective, the average household produces zero
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: point five tons of waste per year, So that's one
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: hundred and twenty thousand households worth of waste just in
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: solar panels every year, and by twenty thirty that's going
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: to be ninety thousand tons, So that is that's almost
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: two hundred households of waste just from solar panels. So yeah,
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: it's not green, it's not doing anything for Australia. We
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: cannot solve climate change on our own. And the majority,
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: the vast majority of these solar panels do come from China,
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: So we're shoveling money out the door to China. Now, meanwhile,
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: there's another interesting story on that China. Note do you
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: drive a Chinese EV because if you do, you may
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: want to think twice about your security. A top security
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: advisor he worked for Malcolm Turnbull, his name is Alistair McGibbon,
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: has warned that Chinese evs may be used for surveillance,
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: they could be used to kill people and potentially even explode.
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: Here's what he had to say.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: The vehicles are updated all the time, the telemetry goes
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: back to the manufacturer. That manufacturer can be directed to
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: turn off those safety features. So yes, in extreme is
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: it conceivably possible this could occur? What about household batteries
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: ninety plus percent of which are manufactured and therefore controlled
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: by China. This is not an issue of where something
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: is made, it's where it is controlled from.
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: Now you'll remember probably one of the only good decisions
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: the Termbull government made was to exclude Chinese companies from
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: the five G network. But you think about what Israel
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: was able to achieve with their pages small, very uncomplex
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: devices really, and they were able to inflict massive damage.
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: If we've got evs driving around the country that could
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: at the hit of a button be turned against us,
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: that is a huge national security risk.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Well, and it extends beyond cars. And there was a
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: national security expert that told me about a month ago
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that if you think of your household, every device that
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: updates on its own so plugs into the Internet and
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: receives an update, and that could be a hot water system,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: could anything that plugs into the grid. In theory, they
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: could all be switched off at once one day, or
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: they could all be charged to actually overload the grid. Now,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: the US government warned about this a couple of months
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: ago with solar panels, where they were opening up panels
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: and discovering listening devices and other things that we're concerned.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: The US government's also put tariffs on Chinese vehicles for
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: this very reason over this concern that if you have
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Chinese technology throughout the community, in every house, in the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: event of something bad happening one day, the idea of
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: being able to switch everything off people can't speak. It
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: might be your mobile phone, it could be a computer
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: who knows, is actually terrifying without someone having to fire
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: a rocket or a bullet. I mean, this is the
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: kind of thing we need to be aware of because
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: we're all plugged into the same stuff.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, that will be the next vanguard of war, right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if you want to bring a
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: country to its knees, the best way to do it
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: now will not be to send in tanks and bombers
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: and all these sorts of things. It'll be to cut
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: off the sea able that connects you to the internet,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: or shut down an electricity network or something so that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you can't transfer money and bring a country to its
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: needs that way. And then once it's down that then
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you can send in the tanks and the bombers, because
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: well they're sitting ducks at that point. And if we
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: are handing over the ability which we are to bring
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: all this technology into our country, a lot of it
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: coming out of an adversarial country like China.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're asking for it, basically, I know of.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's it is official public service
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: or government policy or not, but I know of seeing
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: federal government ministers or at least one who looked into
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: buying a Chinese even was told not to because it
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: would be a risk, And others are being told, you know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: if you're going to use these cars, you go to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: basically disable all of the stuff inside of them, don't
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: make phone calls in them, etc. Because the government is
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: concerned about the potential risk here.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So if we acknowledge that this.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Risk exists for government ministers and for public officials and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: bureaucrats and whatever, why are we not concerned about what
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: it means for the.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Rest of us too?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Like, if they're interested in listening to them, I can
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: tell you slightly it's interested, but they're also interested in
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: listening to lay people. I can tell you that the
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Chinese are monitoring this channel, and they're monitoring everything down
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: to the local rag to see anything that is mentioned
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: about China. They have their eyes on everything. So why
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: would they not want access to your car and your
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: phone and all this sort of business.
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: Well, it's been a very successful enterprise for them exporting
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: highly subsidized technology. So firstly, they're not a free market economy.
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: They're disadvantaging Western companies by subsidizing their own industry so
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: they can then export it to Western countries to compromise
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: our national security while sending our own industries bus. But
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: it's been so successful that Tony Burke drives a Chinese EV.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: Our Home Affairs.
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: Minister drives a Chinese EV. Government employees aren't even allowed
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: to have TikTok on their phones, yet he can drive
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: a Chinese EV.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: That is just embarrassing.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: But it pretty much sums up the state of our
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: foreign policy under labor.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Stupid and embarrassing.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of stupid and embarrassing, take a look at
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: this out of the United States. Now in Michigan, there
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: is an intersection where they have named it renamed it
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: after a go recently died. He owned an Arab American newspaper.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: His name is Osama Sublani. His newspaper was called the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Arab American News. Now the council or local council says
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: this decision was made by the state government, not by them.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: That's rather immaterial.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: This guy, mister Sublani last year got up on a
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: stage and praised Hassan Nasralla, who used to be the
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: leader until he was killed of Hezbelah. So this is
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: a guy who is on the record having supported a
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: terrorist organization and the leader of a terrorist organization. He
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: said he was a great leader, and so after his
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: death a government, be it local or state, has seemed
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: fit to name streets after him. So a local goes
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: along to a council meeting and says, I'm a Christian man.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I have a bit of an issue with a guy
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: who praised an Islamist terror organization and its leader having
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: streets named after him in my town.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Have a look at how the maya responded.
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: As Buller, you know, bombed the embassy in b Roots
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: and including many Americans.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So I just feel that it's quite inappropriate.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: You are an islamophobe, and although you live here, I
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: want you to know as a mayor, you are not
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: welcome here and a d you move out of the city,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: or with the D that a launching parade celebrating the
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: fact that you moved out of the city because you
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: are now somebody who believes in coexistence blimey child.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So that's where we're at now.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: You can't go along to a council meeting and say, hey,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think streets should be named after a guy
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: who praised Hassan Nazraala without being told that you're in
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: islamophobe and that the day you move out of this city,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I'll be putting on a party.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: It's so bad.
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: But dearborn Michigan has a reputation for being very very Islamic.
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: It is fifty five percent comprised of people from Middle
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: Eastern and North African origin.
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: It has continued to churn out a.
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: Lot of very far left radical politicians, and it is
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: has been termed the Jihad capital of the United States.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: So this doesn't really surprise me. But for a resident
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: to go along and be treated like that by the
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: mayor that's supposed to be representing him as a constituent,
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: and to be accused of Lamophobia for calling out radicalism,
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: I mean that is it's dystopian. But I fear that's
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: where we're headed as a society. If you criticize Islam,
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: you'll be labeled and islama.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Fha just very quickly. I've already said this to not already.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: But can you just imagine if the roles were reversed
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: in that situation and there was a Christian mayor and
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: a member of Islam came and said I have a
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: problem with this, and the Christian mayor said, leave town
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and don't come back. I'll be happy for it. Can
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: you imagine, seriously.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: In a country in the US, you'd have riots and
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: people shooting guns. I have no doubt it would be
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: that bad if you said something like that, which is
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a sad indictment. But this is the thing is if
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: you feel comfortable in a country like the United States,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: or certain pockets of the United States to say to
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: a white Christian man that you are not welcome in
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: this country, it kind of proves just how far things
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: have gone.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Some court.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: I think it's actually called cultural Richmond diversity is it's
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: truly their strength in dearborn Michigan. But something else that's
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: really interesting, and it's happening here in Australia, is a
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: billboard celebrating Modi, the Prime Minister of India, celebrating his birthday.
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: Now this has popped up at Epping train station here
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: in Sydney.
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: If you look at the company behind the billboard. It's
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: apparently an advertising company based in Dubai, with very little
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: information on their website about who they are or what
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: they do.
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: And I just find that very interesting.
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: Why here in Australia are we having billboards pop up
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: in train stations celebrating the birthdays of foreign politicians.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: It is bizarre, right, because I mean, you don't celebrate
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the birthdays of any foreign leader any nationally.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: We don't celebrate our own direct album.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: We don't all go, oh, look it's Olbo's birthday. And
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: if it's Trump's birthday, oh it's Trumps.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Oh it's sir KEYA. Stama's birthday.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: What a wonderful day.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: But for Nearendromod, he's seventy fifth. There's been World Walk
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: coverage in India. I mean they're treading him like he's
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the Bloody Gang or something, right, But for this ad
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: to pop up in Australia, what I want to know is,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and if you go on the website, it says at
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the bottom of that billboard, you know, paid for by
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: EXH Productions. On their website it says we specialize in
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: crafting highly exclusive, private, unforgettable experiences trusted by the most
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: discerning clients. Discretion is at the heart of everything we do.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: We operate with complete confidentiality. No work has shared publicly
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and we maintain no social media presence.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: This company is.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Based in Dubai and they're selling themselves as some sort
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: of like wedding or event organizing company. That's literally the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: only thing they have published on their website. They have
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: no presence anywhere else. So a company in Dubai has
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: paid to put a billboard up at a railway station
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: in Sydney, Australia to celebrate the seventy fifth birthday of
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the Indian Prime Minister.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Something is weird about it totally.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Although we have seen in the last couple of weeks
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: and fair enough that the Indian community and what happened
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: with the Liberal Party as well, that they have a
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: significant presence in Sydney now and it might have been
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: a targeted ad like that, but the background to it
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: is bizarre. You need to know how much they paid.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: For indeed, and I'd love to know who's really behind
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: this and whether there's any foreign influence involved.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Is a very strange case.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: After this, we'll get into the papers on the front
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: of the Telly tomorrow exclusive details of a betting scandal
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: breaking out in the NRL.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Don't miss that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Radio.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Let's get into the papers.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Cracker on the front of the Daily Telegraph tomorrow James
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: your home paper.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Great exclusive from Brent Reid. And with the NRL
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Finals well and truly underway, this is an ugly story
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: involving brand and Smith, one of the biggest stars of
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: the game. The story says NRL star brand and Smith
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: told an alleged drug dealer bro I'm paying ninety one
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: dollars for first try scorer, before assuring the dealer he
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: would be in the starting lineup for South Sydney on
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the game on July sixth. This is according to Bombshell
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: police claims. Now Smith's lawyer has said that there is
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: no evidence that Smith altered his game or attempted to
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: impact his teammates after it emerged that the friend stood
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: to win more than twenty thousand dollars in bets. Smith
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: will face Southwook court tomorrow. There's a separate charge including
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: alleged drug supply and the other thing to come out
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: of this is the Sydney Rooster is one of the
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: big clubs in the rugby league have in the last
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: couple of hours considered sacking one of their big stars,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: or they're at least looking at that after Victor Radley
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: was caught up in all of this. And there's text
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: mere messages that allegedly show drug supply between players.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So it's a big or football Yeah, I mean, you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: drugs are a big issue in both codes.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: NRL and AFL.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Of course, will leave it up to the courts to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: decide what has and has not happened. But see, regardless
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: of whether or not there was any altering of play,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and of course he says there wasn't you know, I'm
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: just texting someone and saying, these are the odds I'm paying,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to be in the squad And the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: perception that it gives, regardless of what did or did
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: not transpire, is not a good one. And you know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: unfortunately in the world, perception is reality.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: And shouldn't you even be betting on games you're actually
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: playing as a sports player, Because.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: He's not saying he's betting on it, he's telling someone
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: else that these are the odd zion pays, essentially saying,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: you know, if you wanted to have a bet, this
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: is what you'd be able to get for me to
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: be first dry score.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: But you think about in other industries like the financial services,
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: the regulations around training and stocks are so stringent you
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: can barely do anything, so many disclosures required. Sport is
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: big money. This is a big industry. You can make
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: a lot of money. They should be held to the
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: same standard as any other industry would be.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what the go is in greyhound racing,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and I probably should look into it because I own greyhounds.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: But I know that in horse racing, and I also
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: own horses, I am not allowed to bet against my
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: own horse in a race in which I have a runner.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: And so there you go on that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I know I don't have a fish tack.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: If I could find a way to get fish to race,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I see if I can do it anyway. On the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: front of The Advertiser Tomorrow, bot hallucination derails Frank AI
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: tail wags dog self proclaimed proclaims liberal watchdog Frank Pangelo
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: has admitted using artificial intelligence to craft allegedly fake academic sources.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Submitted to an Algal Bloom inquiry after the Advertiser used
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: AI to uncover his use of hallucinating bots. Funny little story,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: this one out of the essay, and I like Frank Pangalo.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: He's a good guy.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: And he's a former journalist as well, which is part
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: of one of the funny parts of this story. He
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: was in one of these parliamentary committees and he's put
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: forward some academic reports and then given like the bibliography
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: as it were, for where they've come from and who
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: wrote them. And he says that the reports do actually
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: exist in they're real, but the list he gave was
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: false because it had been made up by AI. So
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: he's got authors on it who don't actually exist. And
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: The Times has gone off and contacted some of these
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: authors and I'd never.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Heard of that report. I've never written that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: So the Juno's go down today to his office and
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: door stop him. They knock on his door and he
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: opened the door. They put the foot in, And that's
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: one of the funniest parts of it, because Frank Pangelo
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: came from today tonight, which is the good old fashion
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: knock on the door, shove your foot in the door
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and don't let them close it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: So he's come full circle thanks.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: To AI well and a big biby where with AI
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: on that and you've always got to check whatever comes
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: out at the other end in the Mercury in Tasmania
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: tomorrow now, Premier Jeremy Rockcliffe is vowed to push your
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: head with plans to build a stadium at Hobart's Macquarie Point,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: despite the Tasmanian Planning Commission recommending against it. Mister Rockcliffe
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: said a vote of both houses of Parliament would be
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the final say on the stadium. So this has been
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: an issue that Jackie Lamby's obviously had a fair bit
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: to say about. It's been a big talking point when
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: you've got a housing crisis in Tazzy as well. But
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: despite getting some advice that it's not value for money,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: he's of the view that they've got to do it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: And of course calebern Afl team link to this as well.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a no brainer to build it,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: to be perfectly honest, I was down in Tazi a
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: couple of months ago. I've seen the site where they're
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: going to build it. I mean, you know, it's as
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: close to the smack bang as middle of town as
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: you can get. People will come from Melbourne in particular
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: in droves to go to the football in Tasmania. If
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: they build this stadium, I don't see why it even questions.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: It just had an election. They've re elected a liberal government.
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: It was no secret their position on the stadium. For
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: them to block it and continue to put up a
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: fuss is just fighting the will of the people at
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: this point.
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: And these stadiums always work out in the end. You
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: do attract more customers.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Well that's the other thing as well. I mean everyone thinks, oh,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: when we need money for house, you need money for hospitals.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: But ultimately sport has its own budget, and when you
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: build something brand new like they have another parts of
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: the country, people turn.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: Up exactly well.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: In the Townsville bulletin tomorrow, a very interesting headline storm
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: over teacups Councils spent whopping eight hundred k on Wedgwood.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: Townsville City Council's under fire after its world renowned Wedgwood
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: artists and industry exhibition. Cost rate pays eight hundred thousand
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: dollars but generated only one hundred and forty thousand dollars
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: in ticket sales, so a loss of about seven hundred
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: and sixty thousand dollars not ideal. Sorry, six hundred and
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: sixty thousand dollars the money they did not make their
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: money back. Classic council trying to do everything. But I
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: think this is really sad because I love Wedgewood. I
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: know it's not exactly cool and hip anymore, but.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: You know, so what is it? In a nutshell? What
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: would you be going to see? Teapots and tea cup
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: you just walk around and what they're locked up where
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: you can hold it?
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: This is a world renowned Wedgewood artists and industry festival.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Do you just look at them? And how do you know?
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: There's rare ones?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming and there are ruins.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: But has you got eight hundred grand to put on
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a display?
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: Were they buying all the tea cups to put them
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: on display?
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I would have had to go on those little really
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: tight wrap containers.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: You could just just pop around in my kitchen in
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: the morning and I'll put the headline and you're gonna
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: have a look at my wedge?
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: Would because you have.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Costs costs absolutely.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Nothing except the cost for me of putting the Earl
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Gray in the teapot. Let's look the Newcastle Herald tomorrow
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: where it's his fury over Pippy plundering authorities are investigating
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: allegations that truckloads of pippies otherwise known as cockles to
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: me as a South Australian, being stripped from Stockton Beach
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: and then sold for cash. The beach's pippy population has
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: been rebounding in the past couple of years after a
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: period of over fishing, but local fishermen have reported that
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: mid North Coast pippy harvesters have been routine routinely sorry
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: targeting the beach before dawn recently, so they're coming in
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: before sunrise and basically raping the beach of all the
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: pippies and baggering off and saying that the rest of
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: you can can deal with it. It was as a
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: kid saying I loved going to the beach and you
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: put your feet in the sand and wiggle it around
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and get the cockles out that I'd use for bait.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Of course it's a great meal too.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I've never heard them called cockles. I'm going to say, well,
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I know it's how the Australia wain cockles and xosaurce
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: is that how?
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I'll have to go and check what I'm back in
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Adelaide next. But they do make up a good meal,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: don't they.
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: I'll be great, fantastic, sober, but very sad for the
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: pippies that they're being exploited like that. Over in the
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: Gold Coast Bulletin tomorrow. You may remember from a couple
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: of nights ago, we were talking to you about this
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: saga of someone who was allegedly running a euthanasia ring
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: using whale euthanizer.
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: Well, there's a development in that story.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: Ten k to buy deadly drug and accused Gold Coast
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: euthanasia ring was charging up to ten thousand dollars for
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: access to a drug used to kill beached whales, police alleged,
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: and then they were obviously selling that to people who
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: wanted to end their life. So very sad, and ten
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: thousand dollars is a fair bit of money.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: It is a lot of money.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: After the break, let me give you a tip. If
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: you can steal a television, don't do what this guy did.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I'll show you what he did in just a moment.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Radio. It's our favorite segment and I know it's yours too.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Wow, you don't look the day.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: And today's entry is well not so smart chap In.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Of course, he's the day of the day. In Whyala
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: in South Australia, who's walked into an electrical store and
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: decided he'll knock off a television, which you can see
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: him in his footage shoving up his shirt. So he's
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: just taken the box and gone, Yep, no one's going
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: to know. I'll just put this up my shirt and
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I will walk out and it's not going to be
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: obvious on the CCTV footage that it looks like I
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: have some weird growth on the front of my Tourso
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: the shop Electrical Discount has put that footage up on
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: their Facebook page and kindly ask for this chap to
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: either return it or come in and pay for it.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably Do you think you can get
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: away with that?
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: In this data?
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: I feel like that was really a spontaneous robbery, like
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: he just let the silent thoughts in his mind win
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: and just overtake. Because if you were seriously get to
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: carry out a robbery, you'd bring a duffel bag, you'd
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: actually prepare. He was just like, slide it up the
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: shirt and hope no one notices.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Hey, just before we go, Virgin has decided to enter
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: new ground and allow animals on flights. This is going
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: to be a trial that starts very very soon. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: tickets for small cats and dogs and they're going to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: allow four small cats or dogs to travel in the
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: cabin will be one hundred and forty nine dollars each.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: The pets must be kept inside a soft carrier under
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: specific seats, and the combined weight must not exceed eight kilograms.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: And the pets will not be permitted inside any airport
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: foot or beverage service area, and they won't be allowed
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: in the Virgin lounge either. But at long last, and
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: by the way, it's Melbourne to Gold Coast and Melbourne
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: to Sunshine Coast flights. The tickets are on sale. I
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: have to say I'm completely opposed to this completely. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: think this is going to be really not good. I
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: think it's fraught with danger.
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: Fraught with danger.
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: Give me a break, Four little fluffy dogs on a
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: plane danger, Yeah.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's bad enough. It's bad enough with crying,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: bloody kids on planes. Now you're going to have barking dogs.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And then the dog's going to want to take a
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: dump and the whole cabin is going to be stunk
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: out because some little dog wants.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: To what they all start letting him out. That's the problem.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: It'll be cages to begin with, and then they let
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: them out. Then you'll have dogs fighting on planes. You
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: let dogs fighting cats. They do that, really, they do
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: that in the US. Fraught with that, they let them.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: They actually let the cats and the dogs and whatever,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: you know, sort of come out of the cage and sit.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: On the lady. I'm kind of cute, but I just
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: don't practical.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: Well, I've been on a FLNE.
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: I was on a flight out of New York and
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: we got grounded on the tarmac for six hours and
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: the woman next to us had a dog in her karrot.
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: Didn't hear a peep out of it, did not hear
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: a people. It's well behaved, gorgeous little puppy. And I'd
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: rather sit next to a dog than half of the people
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: I've had to sit next to.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly if the dog is well behaved, maybe, but you know, anyway,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I have to go home to not and break the
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: news to one of my cats that he is above
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: the weight limit and so.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: He will not be allowed to get on.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us tonight after this the Readly Bandy
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Show