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2062 - Welcome to Plathville (s8ep9) "It's All Cattywampus" with Kimberly! · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It is Wednesday. It
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: is waspy Wednesday. It is Ethan is a mute Wednesday.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: Everyone is.
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: This episode is people with zero personalities and monotone voices
• 0:32
  Speaker 3: sitting around being monotone important.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't understand what Teagan is doing with
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: putting on four pounds of makeup before everything she does
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: on the show, because I don't think she looks like
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: that in real life.
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: No, she looks like a totally different person with anout makeup.
• 0:50
  Speaker 3: It's like one of those books where they transform people
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: using makeup.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they make some sudden like King Fardashian or something.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wild, it's totally different.
• 1:04
  Speaker 3: She's really leaning into the heavy lip and yeah.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Well we do know that she has a new boyfriend,
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: and that is on my list of things to discuss
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: for our Thursday Night. Thursday Night, Thank you guys. So
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: ten dollars an up level Pink Shape Prime. We're doing
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: Pink Shade Live. It'll be at myself, Keisha and Kimberly.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: I've got hot topics and then we will take questions.
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  Speaker 1: I will not see it, yeau, don't check it that
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  Speaker 1: often now. Our buddy Amy Archer sent me a screenshot today.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: I guess Veronica formerly of Veronica and Micah did a
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: AMA over there on the reddit.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: And did she on the reddit? She's a lingerer or
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: malingerer on Reddit.
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: She You have to be careful what you say because
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: people will pop up and be like.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: She's here, she's always listening.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: Did you see this thing that she did? Well, Amy
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: sent me a somebody recapped it a t L d
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  Speaker 1: R if you will. So since we're talking about Plaithfill,
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: let's see what we've got here.
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  Speaker 3: I know she was all up in arms because Micah
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: she found out was on her auto insurance policy.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well that sounds like her fault.
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: And she said, what a klingon loser? You know all
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: this piece of crap? She posted it all over Instagram.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: Well she should have just removed him. When they broke up,
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: So it sounds.
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  Speaker 4: Like a fault anyway.
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: Like Amy says, we believe about thirty percent of what
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: she says. But quite a bit of this I do
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: believe because I have heard it from Olivia and this
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: person who did the TLDR says, I was the first
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  Speaker 1: person on the live and I stayed until the mic dropped.
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  Speaker 1: This person on read its name is No Coast eight
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven. All of this is alleged by Veronica Kimberly,
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: and I have no personal knowledge.
• 3:30
  Speaker 4: Of any of this. Only some of these things that
• 3:33
  Speaker 4: were alleged. Olivia sort of alluded.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: To when she spoke to me, but did not say
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: these exact things. So these exact things from the reddit
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: that Veronica said are not things that we are saying.
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: We are just repeating what was said on Reddit. Okay,
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: you would you like to do that again?
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Oh okay.
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: Kimberly's got a new toy.
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: Everybody watch out watch Hello, Okay, Hello, I don't I
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: got to play around with it.
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  Speaker 4: Mark, Okay, all right, get it ready for me.
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: I need to change the battery too.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Sounds it sounds a little sounds a little tired. Mariah
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: was on is currently on uh meth?
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: Now yeah, now some of it tracks because we have
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: heard the rumors that the reason she had no place
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: to live when they went to visit her in Montana
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: because she wants everyone to see that's odd since she
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: moved there eight to nine months ago, right before Lydia
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: and Zach got married, when she got in her car
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  Speaker 1: to move to Montana, So why would she not have
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: a place to live to show them.
• 4:41
  Speaker 4: Where she lived?
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: Could be she lived there.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe got into some trouble, entered a treatment, and now
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: was getting a new place.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps I thought it was like she was on myth,
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: but she's off of it now? Is he Ronica saying
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: that she is still on myth?
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: How don't she know? She wouldn't know. She's not around
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: her anymore.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: If this was happening pre wedding, then she would know
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: because she was with Micah at that time. But Michael
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: Micah tried to help Mariah get off the meth, but
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: he also is on percocet and Mollie. I don't think
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: you're on molly. I think it's a party drug. I
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: don't think you just go around every day like on ecstasy.
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a hard way to live.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: But he Michael, also, you.
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  Speaker 3: Can I saw a true life documentary on MTV once.
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: Really I'm hooked on Molly.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: But not as like going out on a Friday night
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  Speaker 1: hooked on.
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  Speaker 3: They were doing it like very very regularly, and it
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  Speaker 3: tore in their brain.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: Looks her brain looked like Chace Swiss cheese. Uh huh, yeah,
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: that'll that don't do talking.
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: Micah is living in his car in something beach, making
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: twelve dollars working for his old boss.
• 6:03
  Speaker 4: Twelve dollars an hour working for his old boss.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: Now that I don't believe, because we know that Micah
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: has some kind of girlfriend, and I don't think the
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: girlfriend would let him live in his car. Micah is
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: not a live in your car kind of guy like Ethan.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: No, he's high maintenance. He's who is a former model.
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know if I believe that Isaac
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: also does drugs.
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: I think that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have heard that they all the kids party
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  Speaker 3: quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: In what way? How you get over to meth is
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: tail as old as sea?
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: Okay it is nowadays. TiAl is oldest time.
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's much cheaper than a lot of the other drugs.
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but I think Micah or Isaac at least
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: smokes pot because sometimes he seems stoned.
• 6:55
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, got that hairstyle, you definitely got to
• 6:57
  Speaker 4: be the stone. Yeah, Amber.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: Amber also started drinking around thirteen, was stealing white balls
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: from her seilings or her mom or her mom. But
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: we know that Kim was the cool mom and that
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  Speaker 1: was buying Isaac.
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: Drink before, just to say she wasn't just giving it
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  Speaker 3: to Amber.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: Right, Kim drinks in the shower starting at nine am.
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: And no, I'm sorry, that's not funny. That is sad.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: And this again is alleged and controversial, and I hate
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  Speaker 1: to say it. I am only repeating what No Coast
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: eight three seven said that.
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  Speaker 4: Veronica said that when.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: Joshua died that that was also a drinking situation, and
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: it says she all thought that and she had two DUIs, so.
• 7:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know about.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: One, so I don't think two is a stretch.
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: Mariah also drinks in the morning. Well, I mean, you're
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: doing meth. What's a little drinky pooh while you're getting ready.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: Mariah's ex boyfriend was her meth dealer. Uh, the one
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: we didn't see after the roof concert, the one that
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: was like a white wrapper. Lydia has a side to her.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: The cameras haven't seen.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: We all know that she broke a bed.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: She broke a bed, she's wild tea cans, still a slut.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: According to Veronica, I don't like that language. And she
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't know if Ethan does drugs or not, but Mike,
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Mariah and Isaac do. And my understanding was that kind
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: of all the kids were doing something, dabbling here and there.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: All I want is the best for Mariah. I want
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: Mariah to have found her people there in Montana. I
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: want her to be I want her to be better,
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: feel better, look better, do better, all of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the parents really fed up all these kids,
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: and they the pendulum swings. And if you aren't even
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: allowed sugar as a young child, you are going to
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: rebel and go the opposite way. And it's either with Lydia,
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: it's Jesus and fucking just fucking. And Barry is into exercise.
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: CrossFit is his drug, Maybe testosterone. Woo knows he might
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: be on a patch of some sort.
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: Kim like Chris Watts on those patches.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, they're all just they're all just lost, lost
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  Speaker 3: because of this show and because of the parents.
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  Speaker 4: What a tragedy.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it is anyway, guys all that is just
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: alleged from the internet.
• 9:53
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Several people wrote to let us know, because we didn't
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: quite understand about the to Lydia and her friend Mariah
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: with the a sitting in time talking about no good
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: fruit comes from living together, and they explained that it
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: really is just like nothing good happens after midnight, like
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: nothing good will come from it. It doesn't mean obviously,
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean necessarily fruit, but it's just a biblical
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: term that we.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: Thought it meant fruit.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: No, because we did no, no, no, no, nobody said that.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: They're just saying it's a very fundamentalist coded you know,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: no good fruit will come from that, and it's just
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: a biblical term. Also, they said that knowing the kind
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: of this person was like I'm from the area, and
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: knowing the kind of church that they went to, they
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: definitely planned out every single word they said beforehand to
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: make sure it looks like any kind of sexual talk
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: was just only talking about glorifying God. Right, So then
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I saw a bonus scene. Now I had the screeners,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: but somehow I was I've already written my notes last week,
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: or it was a whatever, but they put.
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: Bonus scenes, and if you watch it on television.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: There's some more to love type thing.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, platfell, But who wants more of these people?
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know I needed it. But there was
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: a bonus scene from two weeks ago. So remember when
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Lydia and Zach were having Christmas cocoa with no longer
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: gay Taylor. Yeah, not gay Taylor, not.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Gay Taylor, reformed.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Gay informed gay. Mariah with the A also came over. Oh,
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: she came over for some good clean fun, and they said,
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: you know what we should do. We should play a game. Okay,
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: I saw something on YouTube and it's this game where
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: you have to hold your hands behind your back and
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: crawl on the floor in your stomach to get something.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: So we saw these on the previews of the season,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: but we haven't seen this yet.
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: That is from this deleted scene where.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: They get on their lay on their stomach like snakes
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: and then go towards like a doughnut on a plate.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Right, and then Lyddy and Zach probably made some sexual
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: jokes about it or I didn't realize that it was sexual, which.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: They were getting all the tingles because they were rubbing
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: their nether regions on the.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: Floor like this being back in the prayer classt.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Then there was a bonusy from last week where there.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: They said.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Right after Isaac left it started snowing, and that's all
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: he wanted was to see snow. Remember, he was like,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: he just wanted to see And Mariah and Ethan chat
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: and she goes to his hotel room, you know, the
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: lodge thing, and she's telling him, I'm so glad that
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: you came.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: And he's like, h why because I had chatty it's
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: so fun.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: And she goes, I'm so glad you came.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: And she's like, so, like when you get back to Wisconsin, what.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Are you going to do and start work?
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: And then she goes, okay, so so your rental doesn't
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: start for a while, so what are you gonna do?
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: He goes, Oh, I don't know. I mean, if it's
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: above zero, I'll sleep in my car. But when he
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: gets below zero, then I go to a hotel that's
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: the not freezing, which is thirty two degrees.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: It's when it's below zero.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Now what this is about?
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Is it like proving manliness or that he's not a
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: deep p ward or is it a cheap thing?
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: I think it's a combo.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: And Mariah goes, but you know, once I get all
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: the way moved into my new place, you can come
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: visit and you can stay with me at my new
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: place once I'm all the way moved in. And then
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: it's just like it's icy out there. Yeah, when you
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: go to the airport, drive safely. Yeah, just see you later.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Drive say it's a lot of that. Sure, it is
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: cold outside, And talking to him, Mariah says, I think
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: that Ethan is clinging so tightly to this Teagan thing,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: and you can't force it if somebody doesn't want it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And then he says in his talking head, Yeah, I
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: love to see Tig when I get back, but I
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: don't know how she's feeling, and it's.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Up to her.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: So it's like he's so he's just saying like, I'm
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: just going to wait for her to call me, which
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: is never going to happen.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: But he made this huge trip across half the country
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: to stalk her and move to her. But then he's like,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: but now I'm backing off. So I'm only going to
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: stock you so far as to move to your state
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: and your city and just drive around in front of
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: your house make you super uncomfortable, but I won't actually
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: text you or call you and ask how you're feeling.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Hey, would you like to go have coffee.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Boundaries. Boundaries are important.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I would have preferred he did the opposite, maybe stayed
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: there but reached out until just once a week, not
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: every day, just not every day week. And if she
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: told you she needed space, then back off and then
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: check in in like a couple of months.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: It's all very strange.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: And then I just have concept of boundaries.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I just have the note here to tell you about
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: the internet rumor about Mariah.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: She invited into this treatment.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: She was just getting out of some sort of mental
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: health addiction treatment or rehab, and that's why she invited
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: them out there. But she wasn't moved in because maybe
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: she was transitioning to a different living space.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: But she got in her car and moved two weeks
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: before Lydia and Zach's wedding.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that sounds like a treatment situation.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a long term treatment situation. Or
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: because she did come back from the for the wedding.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: But that's weird.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: It's allowed to leave and she was allowed to go
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: stay at this cabin with everybody. That's or she wasn't.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: That's just where they were staying right at the treatment,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: like maybe yes, yeah, I.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Mean, you know they were staying at that lodge, but
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: she was going back and forth there.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: But I don't know many treatment centers that you would
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: be allowed to leave unless it was like for an ed, or.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It was a halfway house, or it was a halfway
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: a transitional living space.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So we don't know, guys, we don't know.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: We know we're not going to solve it today.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: We're not going to solve it to her the best.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I wish all of them the best, even.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Even Ethan.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I wish for him to be a better person, right,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: me too, and to.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Realize the wrongs that he has done in Olivia.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Well, we're not going to solve that today either. So
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Season eight, episode nine, it's all caddiewampus. Are you familiar
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: with the term caddiewampus? Yes, okay, we're in eastern Wisconsin,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: that's where we're starting. And after two days, sixteen hours
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of driving, Kim arrives. He has given her the code
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to enter his home because he won't he'll still be
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: at work when she arrives.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: So she goes in to.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: See what the house is like. And I said, that
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: smug look.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: She gives to the camera that he gave her the
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: code and she's allowed to let herself into her son's house.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: She is fully like bragging, like, I'm like, is does
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Barry have the code?
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Did?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Do you guys know if Barry has the code?
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Because I got the code, I'm allowed to go in
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: when he's not there.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Well, last season they were really they were really good
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: drinking buddies last season, the two of the.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're best friends and I'm his go to
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: person on not how to not stalk advice, but he
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: won't take.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: So she enters the house and looks around, and I said,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it looks like a squatter is living there. It looks
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: like a squatter has taken a residence, gotten some furniture
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: off the street, and set up a sleeping bag.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Even when he Oh my god, Ethan would be such
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: a good frogger because he is so quiet. Yeah, I
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: didn't speak. You would never know he was living in
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: your walls. He definitely has the skills for that. Don't
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: you think he's been living in his car. Yeah, it's
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: just a small space like a floor, a paneling behind
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: some walls, and he lives in the crawl space. He
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: would have some wrappers and like a pea bucket and
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: you would never know he was there.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he would be good at it. So
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: she's looking around. She goes, Okay, yeah, he needs some stuff,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: and she's brought some stuff. So talking toad Ethan goes,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: my mom came up to see me and brought some
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: household items. I think her driving all the way up
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: here to bring me some stuff is the way that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: she shows.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Love, much like how I moved across the country to
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: stop Teek, and it's how I should love too, So
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: how the.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Way I'm showing her, I love her a lot, like
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: too much. So Kim starts unpacking some stuff and there's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a dining table, there's a fire pit, and this is
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: just old stuff that Ken didn't want, you know.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he seriously he really needs like chairs, but she
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: has gotten him fire pit, which seems like an extraneous.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Piece, something extra that she had at her home that
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: she didn't feel like given to good will.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Although it is Wisconsin, that's true.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: And maybe he'll make some friends to hang around the
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: fire pit.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So the talking dead Kim goes, Yeah, she says, I'm
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: not worried. Ethan is going to scare teaking off by
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: doing too much, because he's already done too much by
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: moving here. So Tiken is going to accept it or
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: turn away from it like it's you know, it's basically
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the tie is already in motion.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: If she didn't have the ick before, she's not going
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to have it from him getting a house.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Right because he's there.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh, Kim sits on the couch and he's like, so,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: are you guys back together? Is everything fine? Are you
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: taking it slow? You don't know yet. It's four questions
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and he just mute, mute is getting out of his guitar,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and she goes, ethan, did you hear me say that?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And he goes hmm. And she goes like, what's going
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: on with Tiegan? Are you taking it slow? Are you
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: getting back together? What's going on? And he goes everything's fine,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and no, we're not back together. Yeah, and he goes
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: into like the bathrooms of this shuts the door her
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: face and she just looks at the camera like, Okay,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it's like.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: This the conversation with Zach, except they were outside, so
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: there was no door that he could close.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: In sects right, it was crazy. She just looks at
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the camera like, boys, boys, you don't even answer.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: You literally just walk away from someone who drove across
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the country, even if that person is Kim and doesn't
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: deserve basic respect.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: That is wild.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: It's wild.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It's why when we've heard it go, did you hear
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: me say that?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: That's what?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: That's what I would be like you Sometimes I'll say
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: things and I'll look around and I'll go, does anybody
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: hear me talking? You know, like I said, dinner's ready?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: What everybody's just still sitting?
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: We get up? You know?
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Did someone sure to be be in your ear? And
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: it doesn't work? Like?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: What's her face's? Poor eye?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Well, allegedly we don't know. So two stories. There's two
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: stories about the eye. So either what was the other story?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: The other story was there was a thermometer on the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: side of the house and a big wind came through
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and blew it off the side of the house and
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: it hit her in the glass, hit her in the eye.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: It's very specific story. Wild. Wow, what bad luck?
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: So and they were like, it'll heal, walk it off,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: You'll be fine.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: God took her to a doctor, okay.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: That we know of.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: So and the talking head.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: She says, Ethan is making decisions based on emotion and
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: not logic. I'm hoping some logic will creep in. Yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: it's possible he could get really hurt because he really
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: loves her and he needs to decide if that door
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: is open or closed forever. Because in her mind, she's like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: this girl doesn't like you, Like what are you doing?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And I don't even know if he really loves her
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: or if he is just super lost in his life
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: and is looking for the latest thing that made him
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: semi happy, and so he's just clinging to that because
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: it's like like if you're he's like constantly in this
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: transition state, Like you know, if you take a gap
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: year or you don't know if you're going to go
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: to college, or you don't know what you're going to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: do next, and you just feel kind of lost, you
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: would like cling to your partner because it's something that
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: you know, because you don't know what you want to
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: do with your life, and it's a big question.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: So I think she's just like an an answer. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: can move there and I see something there.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Such a great point that it's maybe not her he's
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: in love with, because I think if he was so
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: in love with her, so enamorateurr the best thing it
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: ever happened to him when we get the story, which
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: we know there's more to this story that we're not hearing.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: When he got in his car and drove off and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: turned his phone off and all and left her there
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and all that, Like, you don't do that to somebody
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that you really love, now, you know, you just don't.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: No, he has issues and I don't even think.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really don't think it's her because he was
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: not embarrassed to be acting the way he acted last
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: season at the wedding and the engagement in front of her,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: and she wasn't able to talk.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: To him about it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: It's just like he has so much going on, but
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: he won't be alone because he feels too lost to
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: be alone. He was codependent on Olivia. He went right
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: from his parents to a house with Olivia. Yeah, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: then now he went right into with Tigan. So he
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I think he's never been alone and he's very lost
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and doesn't know how to be alone.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: But yet he wants to be alone, but he just
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: wants to know somebody's there just in case he wants
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: to be alone.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: But have the option that they will be there when
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: he wants to be and if they don't get him
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: or call him on his crap, then he wants to
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: be alone.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Right, It's fair. He needs therapy, bad, bad. So now
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: we're in Tallahassee. Caitlin and Isaac are going to go
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: play some games. Love to play games Zach and Lydia,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and Isaac says, you know, we don't see Lydia as much,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and I want them to know that they are family,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they are cared for. We want to see them, which
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: is a nice thing to say.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: So they all sit down. Zach asked them how.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Their trip was, because they just got back and just
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: once again, remember Zach and Lydia were invited the last
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: minute because they didn't want them to come right. Kaylen says, well,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: we went horseback ride and that was real fun. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: then we were at this lodge and that was really
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: cool because we kind of had it all to ourselves
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: because it was four days for Christmas. They eat some
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: pizza and then there's a game called the Couple's Game.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Now I saw this and immediately thought, Okay, this is
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: going to be very uncomfortable because it's gona have a
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: lot of sex questions, right of course. But if you
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: could play with your son, then they could play with
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: your friends. You wouldn't want to play with your siblings,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: especially your sibling this twenty.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Right, you know, Yeah, but they don't know what the
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: newlywed game was like, no.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Right questions true yea true.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: So and even the sex questions that aren't kind of sex.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: There are sex questions, but not in an obvious way.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: It's like half of the group is getting that they're
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: sex questions. Yes, Like one person is not getting that
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: it's a sex question yeah, because they've never heard of
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: certain sex terms.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: So I would have liked to have seen more of this.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Actually, So they have a question, what is your fiercest
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: ongoing debate? So Zach and Lydia're like, oh, easy to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Their answer is babies, and Caylen says, our actual fiercest
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: ongoing debate is who's more competitive?
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: And Isaac goes I wrote nothing.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you brought you brought the game, sir.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Way to play the game.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: What a mini ethan.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring a game for us to play, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: then I'm gonna not participate by just not even putting
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: an answer.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Then the question is if you were someone was a horse,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and someone was a cowboy, who would ride who? So
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: then they just laugh hysterically and they and you know, it.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Felt like Lydia did not understand quite why they're they're laughing.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: No, she didn't get it. But Kaylin's like, Okay, this
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: is awkward. Can we skip some of these questions? I
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna all be awkward? And Isaac goes, well,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of it like I would carry you
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: because you're smaller, so like I would be the horse
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and you would be the cowboy.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: And then he drawls out like a man on the ground.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: A lady is standing on top like he's like he's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the horse, and she's like, oh my god, oh my god.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So then they have what. He didn't get it either.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I think he didn't really get it. He didn't get
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that it was xual. Yeah, he thought it was metaphorical,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: like who could carry who?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like, why is she laughing?
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: What's the craziest thing you've ever done? Now it doesn't
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: say in the bedroom or sexually, what's the craziest thing
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you've ever done? And Zach goes, we're going to need
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a family friendly answer. We're gonna need a family friendly answer.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: But Zach and Lydia are dying laughing because they're just
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: dying to say the craziest sex thing they've ever done.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: But they answer skydiving, and they're like, we should take
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: you guys sky diving.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: But they're trying so hard not to be awkward. This
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: is making it more awkward.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: And Calen goes well I wrote mountain climb, and Isaac
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: goes oh, I wrote, when we were swimming in the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: lake full of gators, we do do that, we do
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: go and then that likeful.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's not crazy, that's just stupid.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think all of them are just too much. Yeah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: it's like skydiving. No, no, alligators, same thing to me. No,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: they're both on the same level. But at least they're
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: participating right there, coming up, they're both acceptable answers.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, and then Isaac, it is talking heady,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: he goes. I was just laughing because, you know, a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: week after they got married, I had to come over
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: here and help them fix their bed because they broke it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: He goes I don't I don't want to know what
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that's about whatever. And then Lydia and Zach say that
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: she was just trying to kiss him and he jumped
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: on the bed and then they broke it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: She was like, that's what you get for trying to
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: be romantic.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Girl.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: We don't believe you. We don't believe you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I actually might believe you because they're both quite small people, like,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: they're thin people, her especially, so I was like, did
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: they really break bed with sex stuff.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Or did he do a running jump onto the bed?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Right, It's pretty funny that they had to ask Isaac
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to come over and fix it, because, like I think
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Zach is not handy like.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: The Plath boys. He's like, so, I don't know how
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: to fix it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: The talking head Isaac says, we've all come a long way,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and I have made it clear to them that I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: am sorry for the past and I hope we will
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: continue to improve.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: But it goes both ways, and they also have room
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: for improvement.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Like sometimes maybe they're high up on their stool, but
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: that's between them and God. It's like, okay, now we're
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: seeing that Lydia and Zach are.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: High up on their high horse as it were.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they are both a little holier
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: than thou and maybe together it amplifies it. But Lydia
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: was always like that, and she was the tattle tale
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and Jess was she would judge the other ones. And
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Zach is kind of the same way, trying to give
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: marital advice when they just got married and such. Right,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: and so the two of them together, yeah, but they
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: won't know that unless someone tells them that.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: They'll see it on TV.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: They'll say exact which is what this which is what
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: caused the problems last season is everyone was saying stuff about.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Them, yeah with on TV. Saw it later, Yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: And they saw it later.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So I hope Isaac says something that we want to
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: spend time with you, but we sometimes feel like we're
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: being judged for our behavior and we want to just
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: be ourselves around.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Because you know that Calin twenty two and Isaac twenty
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: are banging and out all over Krow. Yeah, and it's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: that's marital remember, But Isaac does live with this day.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Be smoking pot and whatever and all of it, all
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: of it, and they're just being like normal young people. Yes,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I agree with that, right, So, but I think Lydia
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: and Zach are kind of like, well, you guys, you
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: didn't grow up that way and you shouldn't. Yeah, yeah,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: you know, to get into heaven, you're gonna have to Yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Interesting thing interesting, That's what I would imagine, Like I
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: would not I would want I would want to be
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: friends with them because I think they're kind of funny,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: but I would be like not wanting to.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And I don't do anything bad, so I.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Don't know what I would be wanting to hide from them,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: but like, do you know what I mean, Like you
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: would kind of feel like you were being constantly judged.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well, and the god comments would get
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: a little annoying too, especially if you don't talk like
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: that and you're like, oh, our wedding night it was
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: so god based, I.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Would be like, who was it?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Somebody put out that, like a TikToker or something. It
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: was like there was they had a throatble. They didn't
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: even know it was zach and Lydia.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: The Holy Post is part of that trinity. That's the
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: original threattle was the Holy Trinity, and it was incestuous
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: because it's God, his son is there, so it's.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Let's get off this.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Let's get off this, okay, one week later, Now we're
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: back in eastern Wisconsin.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: So Kim stays there for a week.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: That's too much.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot. She's not saying there.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: So she's smart enough to at least go to a
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: hotel where she can drink in the holiday and express bar.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: So Tiekean comes to see the house. She has not
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: seen him since they were in Montana, other than when
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: she gave him the plate of food at Christmas.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Why is he there? And again I don't think she
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: is told him.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: She needs to hear from him if he wants to
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: make an effort, because he maybe thinks he's giving her space.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: It's just horrible communication all around, and no one is
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: saying what their.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Expectation and needs are of the other person.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Right, And so when Kim arrived, it is two weeks
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: after Christmas, and this is one week later.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: So this has been like in three weeks at least.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I think like five.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I think that I think he went to Wisconsin and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: it was still a week or so before Christmas. So
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: he does not call her and want to see her
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: or go and do something, and she goes, you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I have nights off that he knows he doesn't reach out.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: He's living here without making any effort. It's very weird,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm happy to go see his house. So she's
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: banging on the door and he finally comes up to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the door and he goes, oh, I was in the bathroom.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: She goes, Jesus Christ, I was banging out there like
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: it was the cops.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Like, okay, Tagan, show us some attitude, we'd like it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Also, did he know that she was coming over at
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: that time and chose that moment to go take a poop?
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: No?
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I think he maybe had nervous poop. Don't you think?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Oh good call?
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, think he got nervous hand to go to the bathroom.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: So he shows her the house and he opens the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: cab and he goes, look, I got cups and plates.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Now my mom brought me some stuff. She's like that's good,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, he you know, doesn't have
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: a bed or anything. But they make small talk and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: then talking, Eddy explains the reason he got this little
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: house instead of getting an apartment was because he likes
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the feel of the house because one day he wants
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: a family. So he's like he's manifesting. He's like I'll
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: get the house and maybe the family will come.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: But again, maybe say that to her or like I
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: hope to have a oh, or not even that. I
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: would love for you to bring the kid over because
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I have this backyard.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And that was kind of thinking we.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Can the weather's nice, and the weather's nice, we can
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: have a barbecue.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Back here or something.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just anything, yeah, just an, just use your word.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: And he has a sleeping bag on the floor and
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you see his bag of clothes and he says, I
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: have the bed come and is right not here yet right,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and the talking head she goes, a non existent bed
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: is a little crazy, but it's Ethan, so it makes sense.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: He's slept in other places with much less. So anyway,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: he goes, hey, I got this brownie mix. I'm gonna
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: make brownies, and they have this whole conversation about did
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: they ever make brownies together? He doesn't have any measuring cups,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: so he's just literally like, do you think a fourth
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of this is a I mean, he just like fixed
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: up whatever cup he has.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: This could have been funny and a cute scene with
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: two people who had personalities, right, like if this was
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Lydia and Zach it would have been kind of funny, wock.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: It would be annoying, probably because they wouldn't stop laughing
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: and it would be too much the opposite direction. But
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: instead it's not even can I make it?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Can I measure?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Does this look like a cup? I don't have any cups? Hot, No,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: one's laughing. They're like, yeah, you could use that as
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: a cup. Okay, I'll use this as a measuring cup.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: It's it's all very strange. And the talking said he
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: she says him moving to Wisconsin and getting a house
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: is a stuff in the right direction. But I'm just
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: waiting to see what he does, like how long he
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: stays and if he stays right. But it's interesting because
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: he says in the talking head that he really thought
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: doing this brownie thing would mean a lot to her
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: because he knows that she likes brownie's and they've done
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: it together before. So he does kind of say that
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to her, like remember that time we made brownies and
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: she's like no, no, but he remembered that one time
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: she liked brownie you know what I mean. It was
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: like he's trying.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: For him.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: He went to the store and bought something he knew
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: she would like and that could be an activity for
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: them to do together.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I hate to give Ethan credit, but he was trying.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: This is trying for him. This is trying a lot
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: like with the folk making a photo of them at
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: the walking mountain climbing.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: But she is she has a chip on her shoulder.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: And again I don't blame her because we don't know
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: what he did before and how horrible he was, so
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I get why she would have a chip on her shoulder.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: So she goes, so, uh, there's no place to sit
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: or hang out, and he goes, oh, I have a
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: couch in the den. She goes, okay, So she sits
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: on the couch and he sits like on a barsel,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and they're just like.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's a love seat, they would have to
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: sit like they would be sitting as close to each
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: other as Zach and Barry were in the sauna.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Later. Yeah, so they're just like so yeah, he goes,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: how's your car?
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Is it running all right? She goes, yeah, I guess transmissions,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: uh huh. Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Because he doesn't know what to talk about, he talks
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: about cars, So Kim walks and then.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I again I really hate to keep defending him, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: that's his way of showing that he cares too.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: To Yes, she has a car that's up and running.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, yes so, and he's remembering that she
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: was having trouble with her car, so he's trying, you know.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: So Kim walks in, it's like oh hi, and she goes, oh, hey,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: good to see you and everything.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: She goes, ethan, I got I went to the thrift
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: store and I got you some chairs and they look
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: like decent chairs that match and everything. So she's she's
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: earning her keep there Kim. Kim goes, well, I walked
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: in and Tagan was there, and that was dead silent
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and awkward. And so they sit in the kitchen because
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: now there's chairs and they're waiting on the brownies to
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: get baked. And he goes, hey, I got to go
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: to the store. I got to run to buy measuring cups.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: So he says he wanted to go to the store
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: to give his mom and Tigan a chance to talk.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And they said, what do you think they'll talk about?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: He goes, I don't know girl talk. I've never been
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: around when girls. I don't know what they're going to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: talk about. And hegan says, it's awkward because I haven't
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: seen Kim at all since Lydia's wedding. I mean otherwise
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: sometimes we chat via text, but I haven't seen her.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: But Kim is being like for Kim, she's nice.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: They tricked us.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: They did a Matt Sharp fake out because they made
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: it seem like she was rolling up dunt yeah yeah,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: to like call out teak In on hurting her sweet
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: baby boy, and it was kind of the opposite, right,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: good for Kim. So Kim myself, I hate that I'm
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: defending these people had.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Episode for Kim rely, So Kim and Tagan talk as
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: small talk and it's like, hey, yeah, the yard is
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: nic as well. I did it, Yes, good surprise he
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: moved here, yeah, And Kim goes, well, I mean he
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: seems happy in Wisconsin and I assume you guys are
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: just friends, and he can goes, I said, we're working
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: our way up to friends, like we're like below friends
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: because we don't really talk. He doesn't get in touch
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: with me, and Kim's like, okay, that's weird. And Kim goes,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know everything that happened, of course, right, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: so he can goes well. The main issue was I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: was prioritizing him, and he was prioritizing him, and I
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: was never prioritized. And she goes, well, what I told
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Ethan was if this was meant to be, it was
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: meant to be, and it'll work out. And she says, actually,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: when we had that break, it was actually good because
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: we could, like when he went back to Georgia and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you know, she goes, we could work on ourselves and
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: we could see where it goes from there. But maybe
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the break will help him understand like what's important and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: what is not. And she says, and the in long
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: distance was hard too. You know, he's not a big
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: phone guy, and he kept saying he would move here
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and then he didn't.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: He's not a big in person talking he's not a
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: community talker.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: And Kim goes, yeah, he's a horrible communicator. He is,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and she goes, I don't know if all of this,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and I think Kim's just indicating him just uprooting and moving.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: She goes, I don't know if all this will help him,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: but it will if it helps him learn.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: To communicate with you, I guess so.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: In the talking head, so obviously off camera, Kim and
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Tigan had some kind of conversation where Tegan explained what happened.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: And there's also with that party line of he'd be
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: focusing on himself and I was focusing on myself or himself.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: So everyone she's used that line a couple times.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: And she's focusing on that story about when she tried
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: to talk to them and I.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Birth call him.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but I obviously there's something private that happened. Okay,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: So the talking head Kim says, Tan told me that
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Ethan had just left and wouldn't answer his phone. She
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: had to go looking for him and could not find him.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: He was gone for several hours, so she ended up
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: just driving back to Wisconsin and she broke up with him.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: And I don't blame her, h I think he has
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: a lot of baggage to work through from his marriage.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: And I think yes and yes and no. I don't
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: think the marriage breaking up is Olivia's fault, obviously. I
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: think he has he has baggage to work through in
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: the pain of that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And going from your parents' house to the marriage house
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: to is also something and the way it was raised,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and she says it'll take someone unique to understand him
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: because he's a unique person, so it'll take a unique
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: person and Teagan won't be rushed into anything, and she
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: wants to see that Ethan will be around and will
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: get better at communicating. And I sympathize with Teagan because
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: she needs more than he's just geographically in the area.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: She needs to see growth, she needs to see maturity,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: and she needs to see Ethan get some communication skills.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, Ken, was any of this sympathy for Olivia though.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Well, Olivia had demons?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Insider, Olivia had demons, and Olivia's the reason the family
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: fell apart.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Not the mathe addiction. Okay, so she says.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Kim says to Tiagan, I can tell you, as the
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: mother of boys who don't always make the best choices
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: in women.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: You had to throw that in there, Kim.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: By the way, Olivia was your choice for Ethan.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: In case you have forgotten.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Rewind the tape. Don't be the game tape. She it's
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: that is she Yeah, but she will never admit that
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: that was her fault or that she even did that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, I think Isaac got a good one
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: with Kaylin, and Ethan got a good one with you,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: and he's a grown man and he needs.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: To figure out his own stuff.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And Tegan says, that was really nice of her to say,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: because some boy moms will be like, my son does
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: no wrong.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: So I was glad to hear Kim say that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and interesting that he can kind of nodded
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: her agreement about Kaylan, because Kaylen has kind of been
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: dropping a lot of shade towards Teagan, which is really
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: shitty if something really worse happened, And it makes me
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: not like Kaylan if she's always like, why won't she.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Take him back?
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Why is she being so cold to him, especially if
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: she knows that there's like something more serious that happened.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, you saw his behavior at the wedding.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your boyfriend.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Your boyfriend also punched out his brother and I was
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: about to say nos off and you were okay with that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: And this just all makes me feel like Kaylan isn't
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: a girl's girl or like.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Or she's only she's but she's only hearing the Plath side,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and she hasn't been in touch with Teagan to get
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that side.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Right, right, But she what she was there for should
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: have been enough. Yeah, right, it was enough for all
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: of us to say no, thank you, Ethan.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: It was so terrible.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, So now in Tallahassee, Barry and zach I had
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: gone to a wellness center that literally is like in
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: somebody's basement. They show the outside of it. It's like
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: somebody's townhouse.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: This is somebody who bought a vibration plate, yeah, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: a minisauna and a lymphatic drainage squeezer.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: And they did, they did. We're doing one more thing.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Barry was.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, Barry was an inverted upside down. All these things
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: you can bow on Amazon, every single one.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's Taylor's like someone's it's someone's home gym,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: and yeah, they're now renting it out to people.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: There's no certification on the wall, there's no nothing like that.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: So Barry's hanging upside down. Zak is doing like I'm
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: sorry drainage.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: The rap music that keep giving to Barry's intro scenes
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: that are like about shorties on the floor and looking
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: it's like hip hop, damn club music because Barry's daddy.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Plath now and he's a baller. I guess it had
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: licking lyrics.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: How did I miss that? Ew I do not know.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Shorty's on the floor and she's down to do licking
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: or something, but it brimed.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: So I'm talking head.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Zach tells us that he and Lydia went to see
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Mariah in Montana with Isaac, Kaylin, and Amber.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: So the cool kids. They finally got to hang out
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: with all the cool kids.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was nice. It was a great trip.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: And now Lydia has flown to Wisconsin to be with
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Kim and Ethan and then drive back from her drive
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: back with her. So do we never see Lydia in
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin at all because we're only getting the drive back.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I don't recall. I think there was like a home
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: video of the.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, it don't make me watch bonuses.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: It was literally just like a blink and you'd miss it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: But and then he said he went skiing with Isaac
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: and he was so like, Zach was so happy he
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: got to hang out with them and they invited them.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: And no, I'm saying, Lydia flew to Wisconsin to be
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: with Kim and the drive back, but we never see Kim, Ethan,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and Lydia together in Wisconsin. We only see Lydia and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Kim in the car driving back home.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: We see Lydia walking around looking at Ethan's house and
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: yelling to Kim he has a backyard. Do you remember that,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Like there's a hole in the ground, and yeah. It
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, I have a fire pit, I guess,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: and Lydia goes, he has a fire pit, like joking,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: like he has a whole fireplace. Oh, okay, a hole
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: in the ground. So we assumed she was yelling to Kim.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: So they were all at Ethan's house.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so maybe I'll come to that, but
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I don't recall that, okay.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: So Zach says he's.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Trying to get healthy because he's bigger than he's ever been.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: And you get married and he's just getting a lot away.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: That's what happens. And Barry gets on the vibration plate
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and says it's making his butt itch.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Then he asks, not gonna say anything, Nope.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Then he asked when Lydia decided to go to Wisconsin,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and Zach goes, yeah, I don't know.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: She just decided she'd go check on Ethan.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: It's eighteen hours of driving on the way home, so
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Kim and Lydia will be doing a lot of talking
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and Barry says, has Lydia come to a better spot
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: with Kim after everything that transpired at the wedding.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: When I was the only one in the family that
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: was nice to you both remember.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And Zach says, well, I think Lydia wishes Kim was
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: more emotionally involved. Like she doesn't call at random to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: say hello or to check in. She calls her to
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: get things done. Yeah, not how's my daughter doing. It's
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: more like, hey, Cinderella, can you go clean the houses?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Uh huh?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: And Barry says, yeah, Kim is not emotionally engaged a lot.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And Zach says, well, I imagine it has to do
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: with a lot of the things she's been through. And
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: he's not talking about her terrible mother or her Dee Rise.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: They're talking about especially Joshua. So the talking to head.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Zach says, I've had my reservations about Kim for the
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: way she's treated Lydia, but hopefully they're gaining ground on
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: this right now. I do like that Zach calls out
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: that Kim is a terrible mother.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I do like that.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's horrible what happened with Joshua, But you
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: still had a bunch of other children right that needed you,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: and you treated all of them differently, Like you're totally
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: down to build a relationship with Ethan, but you always
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: keep Lydia an arm's length ever since you felt like
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: she turned on you of a divorce.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: And I have to say, I don't actually think that
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: would be true that Ken would be drinking when Joshua died,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: because I think if that was true, then Barry would
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: have had a lot more resentment towards her and not
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: had three kids afterwards, do you know what I mean?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: We see the flashback of Kim talking about the day
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: that Joshua died. It's been seventeen years since he's passed
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: away now, and Barry says, yeah, I'm sure all of
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: that is layered in there and something she may still
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: need to process. Now, Barry, is that getting a two
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: man sauna?
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: And Barry says, hey, by the way, I'm so sorry
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: to interrupt. It was so funny watching them have this
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: very serious conversation about a dead child, as Barry is.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Kind of waited till you were off that thing.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: So they get in the sauna and Barry goes, hey,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: thanks for doing this with me. Maybe one day I'll
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: have a date and I could bring her in here.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: You know, Matchmaker. She's been great. And there was a
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: lady in Tennessee that I was talking to. We talked
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: on the phone for hours. She was fun, and then
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: we got to the topic of celebrating Halloween, and you know.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I just don't do that. I just don't get it.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: It's a non event. We do trunk or treat.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's for the demons. Okay,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: she was a demonic devil, so I had to hang out.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: He doesn't say any of that.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: That's what he meant. That's what he meant.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, but it made it sound like he was nitpicking.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: And she's into a thing that I'm not into and
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: because of that, I cannot date this woman. Like they
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: have to have all of their hobbies completely aligned. I
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: think it's because she's a demon. It just like that.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Does he still feel like probably?
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Probably?
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: I wish we knew more about like what his beliefs
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: are now, because we know Kim is forgotten everything.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: She's down to do it all. She's yeah, all right, yeah.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Talking head was Zach and Barry together and Zach says, yeah,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: it seems like now is a good time for you
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: to step into the dating world, and I know it
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: could be complicated.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Barry goes, you.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Don't know you're in the presence of the ploth daddy,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: and Zach says, oh, dear, I'm never going to call
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: you that.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Okay. The sauna was enough. Now you're making it weird.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: The sauna was so small, it was made for one person.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: They are sitting like thigh to thigh.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: It was horrible, horrible. Also, Barry got.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: To go on dates and talk to women and we
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: didn't get to see it, and I'm mad about that.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I went to the sea lady was like, I'm not
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: participating in this TV show.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I know. I'm mad.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, now I have Lydia has arrived to see Ethan
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: in the house.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, I completely forgot about it. And there was a
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: hole in the ground that is a fire pit.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: So now he's got two fire pits and above ground
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: and below ground. So Kitty Kittia Kim says.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Kim and Lydia's couple names.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Kittia.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Kim says, Lydia loves road trips and I'm excited about this.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Mother daughter road trip, and Kim tells her, you know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I love a road trip because I have five hundred
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: songs on my playlist and now I can listen to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: all of them. Because when you guys were growing up,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: we had twenty gospel songs to listen to. But now
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I'm of the world and I have five hundred songs.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: So a suck it the way you grew up.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: The exactly, that's the whole thing.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: And Lydia is still in that place where that's what
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: she values. So these songs are not going to be
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: songs that Lydia is now enjoy listening to. But you
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: created this person, Kim by telling her that secular music
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: was of the devil right, much like Katie, who had
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: to write a letter to Amy Grant telling her how
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: disappointed she was when she went secular, and.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: So she did. Her mom helped her send a letter
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: to Amy Grant.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Wow, Horrish, Amy Grant, who's like baby baby, Yeah, that
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: is the only baby baby should have been the baby Jesus.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: But she was talking about love and love.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, I was surprised when Amy
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Grant was secular, but I was okay with it. Yeah,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: and then she married Vince Gill, and I believe he
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: was married at the time, and they both left their
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: spouses and she married Vince Gill, and that was even
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: more upsetic.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Kay, scandalique.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: I know, I don't remember any of this.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I only knew her secular because I don't know why
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: why I would know her Christian.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't be listening to Christian music.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: No, no, all right, Kim tells Lydia, you let me
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: show you a picture of this thing.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Look at this.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Look at this picture. Do you see what it is?
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I don't quite understand what it is.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: There's flowers written on it. She goes, it's a bong
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: for smoking pot. Did you know, Lydia, there are different
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: ways to smoke pot. You could roll it up like
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: a cigarette.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: That's called a doobie, so, but you could also smoke
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: it on this This is called a bong that was
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: in the barn, and it's not mine.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: I smoked a pot like two times in college.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: So there's I just name dropped a couple things that
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I was able to do that you were not able
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: to do, Lydia.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Smoking pot and going to college.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: So sorry, While I humble brag the things that it
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: were okay for me to do but not okay for
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: my child.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's part of it why like Lydia.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Gets so tense at this moment because she's not comfortable
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: talking about drugs. But it's also like a reminder of
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: the life that Kim was able to have, full of
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: sin and like exploration and learning about yourself and the
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: way compared to the way she raised them.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: It's crazy because because you know, I smoked a pot
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: two times in college, and the bong is not mine.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: So this begs the question whose bong is it?
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Is it Ambers?
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: No, Isaac lives a very.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I yeah, but do they smoke in the barn?
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean the quen no Ken found it?
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but did was that a like a what would
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: you call it?
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: A cover story?
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Exactly, Look what I found that's totally not mine.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: Either Ethan left it when he was there.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Either Ethan left it when he was there, or
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: it's from when Isaac was there in high school, or
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: it's Ambers.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Those are the choice.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, none of those would surprise me.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: And Amber has that friend with the dark hair.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Scandalous at Brunette that came and had dinner with them, but.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Out in the barn Berlin, Berlin, Berlin.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: With a y, I said her dad's name is Bert
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: and her mom's name was Lynn.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: So Lydia goes, oh, dear, well, how did we get
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: on this subject?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I don't know. I was just telling
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: you like what I did in college, and Lydia sits
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: there for a second. She goes, well, I'm glad you
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: did not keep that up. And you know, I'm glad
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: you stopped toward so awkward. So as they're driving, Lydia goes,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a Zach and Kim goes, oh, that's sweet, and
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, you know, he's a pretty good therapist.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: And Kim goes.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Really, and she goes, well, you know, he's just really
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: good to talk to. You know, growing up, I didn't
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: learn what it was like to talk about things in general.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And Kim goes yeah, and then Lydia goes, you know
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: a large piece of it, mom, is I think that
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: we never talked about Joshua. And Kim goes, well, I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: have to say I did hear bits where you talked
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: about Joshua publicly.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: Now she's talking about.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: The podcast with the Ginger with the Jay Dugger when
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: she talked about it there, and Kim says, Lydia went online, okay,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Lydia went on a radio program. Lydia went online and
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: was crying.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: About Joshua Joshua, which.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Is fine and understandable, but then she talked about how.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: She wasn't equipped to deal with that.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: And you know, I've had a lot of guilt that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I've had to deal with, and when I heard her
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: talking about him online, it was like ripping open that wound.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: It's almost unbearable for me to think and talk about.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: And when I first heard what she said, my heart
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: broke for her.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Publicly Lydia gave a lot of details about his death
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: and then she went on to speculate about how it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: affected me or how it affected Barry and our marriage,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: thing that, things that she does not have the place
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: to say publicly false.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: She she lived through it. She's an adult, she can
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: speak her truth. She lived in that home when you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: took She.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Was there a year, and there when the child got
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: run over.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: She was there when the children and then she had
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: to help raise her other siblings because you were emotionally
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: unavailable understandably probably, but still it is her experience.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: It affected the whole family, and I think she's allowed
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: to talk about that.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Also, you put her as a child, as a minor
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: on a television show publicly, so she has every right
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: to talk about her.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Life, and as an adult, she's definitely able to go
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: on another fundamentalist podcast totally. You know, it's not like
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: she went on what am I trying to say? Who's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: the guy who's the big Joe Rogan. It's not like
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: she was trying to say Seth Rogan. I was like,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: that's not right, that's just another soner. It's not like
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: she went on Joe Rogan and like Spoke or Triu.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: She went on a like minded person who grew up
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the same way and is able to speak from her
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: experience being there, seeing that what she experienced in her home,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: and if she was asked, do you think it affected
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: your parents' marriage, she answered the question.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: So it's not like she's writing a tell all.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: And I think if I were Kim, I'd be way
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: matter about the my mom left the family when I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: was seventeen comments.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Then I was about the Joshua stuff.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe that'll come up.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I hope it does. Yeah, so.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Kim says to her, I feel you blamed me for
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: not communicating about that part of it, the Joshua stuff,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: And Lydia goes, I feel like you don't know how
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: to communicate things you and all I've been married eight
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: mons is and now I'm an expert and Lydia.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: But it's true, and it's also stuff.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Kim has admitted, I'm not at communication and I passed
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: that down to my children.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: And I shut down this child died.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you are aware of all of this, but
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: you just don't want anyone else to say it about you.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely does not want to be called out ever,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: and Lydia says, Lydia does sort of like a compliment sandwich,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Like she tries to say something, she goes, and I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: know you have so much going on in your world
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: and what's in front of you. It's like, not like
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: you forgot about the others, but it's just not right
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: in front of you. So basically, she's like, if it's
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: not right in front of you, Ken, then you can't
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: think of it, you know.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: So or like unless you need something from me, like
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: or a haircut, you need the house cleaned, then I'm there,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: but I probably think if you just call and say
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: how are you?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: If I had to guess, she treats Hoseannah the same way.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I bet that Hoseannah's out of side, out of mind,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: if I had to guess. So in talking to head
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Lydia says, the intent of talking with my mom was
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: not to point fingers. I just want Joshua acknowledged, and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about his life, so I'm talking
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: to d Kim says, right after Joshua died, I was
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: not ready to talk to anyone.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: It took for me a year to be able to
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: talk about it at all. And periodically we would go
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: to the gravesite and put duckies or flowers there. Now,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: according to all these kids, the only time they've ever
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: done that was when they filmed it. They've never gone
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: as a family otherwise.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: Ever.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: And Kim is lying about something or mus graduating Marie,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: she's misremembered shracting.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Kim says, it's been hard for me knowing how much
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: pain I caused the other kids. It's hard, okay, So
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: it's good to know that maybe she has some empathy there.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Kim says, well, I spoke to my other friends who
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: heard it.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Now, you played the interview for your friends because you
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: wanted them to back you up.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I spoke to some of my other friends who also
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: heard the online thing that you did online. Yep, and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: they agreed that it seems that you implied we never
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: talked about it, and Lydia goes, yeah, because it was
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: in your hands, and so naturally we would want to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: protect you from hearing anything about it, meaning like there's
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: going to protect her, so they don't talk about it.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: But she never talked about it either, right, And Kim goes, well,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Dad and I, she's got to throw Berry under the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: bus here, She says, Dad and I didn't give you
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the tools to deal with it, but I don't know
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: if anyone can give you the tools to deal with that. Okay,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: So we didn't give you the tools to deal with it. However,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: no one could have the tools to deal with it, right.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: So she'd even a super mom like me could have
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: given you the tools to deal with it.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Talking to Lydia says, you know, I've thought about talking
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: with my mom about Joshua, but I've never had the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: stream to bring it up. And talking to Kim says,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: it's sad to me that she's opening up to the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: internet but not me. And this is a good picture
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: of the gulf that separates us, and I want to
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: fix that.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Good. I'm glad you realized that.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, so good, But it does feel like again like
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: how you've mentioned how Olivia said that since Kim is
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: like a narcissist and she uses whatever child backs her
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: up at the time. And this season is the I'm
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: such a great mom to Ethan like storyline. He was
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: so troubled last season and I'm going to.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Be there for him.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: And so that's why she doesn't call Hosanna or Lydia
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: unless she needs to them, and that includes filming a
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: scene with them, like bonding, repairing the relationship. But when
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: she's not filming, I bet she never calls the sham
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Mariah that she caught. No, it's when they're not filming out.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Her right, Yeah, m just checking on Micah. Is he
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: living in his car?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: We need to know if they want to film a scene,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: then she would.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: That's how I feel. That's again just my speculation.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Allegedly, Allegedly, next time on, Kim says there she's saying
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: this to I think she's saying this to Lydia in
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: the car. She says, there are eleven of us in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: this family, so we all need to accept each other
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: the best we can. And then Kim says in her
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: talking head, she goes, Lydia doesn't see a problem with
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: the two of them sitting people down and correcting them.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: But when I but when I talked to everybody else,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: it was a problem.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: I got all.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: I talked to all the family members and got them
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: to back me up that we did not like when
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: they were called out about the wedding how they acted
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: last season. Yep, And they said they were fine with
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: it at the time, but then privately they all told
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: me that they did not like it.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: So now we're going with the storyline that they're.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: The problem that you were going with this lady line
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: that Zach and Lydier are the problem, the problem.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: High on their.
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  Speaker 3: Stool, Yeah, way too high on that reverse cowgirl.
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  Speaker 1: That he drew a picture of pretty perfectly. Isaac tells
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  Speaker 1: Kim and Ethan that they went on this trip to
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  Speaker 1: Montana when the girls. When when Isaac was away, Zach
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: would talk to the girls. Mariah Amber Kaylin. Zach would
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: talk to the girls when he was away and say
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  Speaker 1: things like Mariah shouldn't have this in her house or
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Mariah shouldn't play this kind of music. M So when
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't there, he would be judging what Mariah had
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  Speaker 1: in her home. And Kim says, the solution is the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: we all get together and yeah, there's some things we
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: need to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: So they thought they.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Were starting the season with telling us what's what, We're
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: going to end the season with us selling them what's what.
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  Speaker 3: She is giddy that she gets to flip the tables
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  Speaker 3: on them and call them out now and have other
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: people back her up.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and be like, you guys don't need to be
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  Speaker 1: telling people what music they should listen to, Like who
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: would like I do?
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  Speaker 3: Who would possibly tell people what they should eat and
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: what they should drink and what they should listen to
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  Speaker 3: and what they should how they should dress, and would
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: do that that then do the exact reverse once in
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's crazy behavior. So that's it, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: This is.
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  Speaker 1: What episode did number? Did I say it was? I
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: said it was episode number nine. There are twelve total,
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  Speaker 1: so okay, we have three three to go, and.
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  Speaker 2: God, I wish there was a reunion.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: The fact that there is no reunion for this or
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Love after lock Up is a tragedy.
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  Speaker 3: Because they all just get to say shit and then
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: it's like, not till next season we get to hear
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: the responses, where at the time Sukie could say, like
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: roll the tape, Yeah, I just said this about you.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: I know it really is.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: It's really awful because even Micah, like if he's getting
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: paid an extra five.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: K, he would show up.
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  Speaker 2: Hmm, where is Micah? We need him back on our screen.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: You need him back. I do.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: I need him back. I like to look at him.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I need to know he's okay. I need to know
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: he has shelter for one night, like he came into
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: film two scenes like the one where they got bitched
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: out and you got to say sorry, and then.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: He had a beer been in that one, yeah, and.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Then he had a beer with Barry and then he
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: chatted with Ethan and Mariah in the barn.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: It's always allow.
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  Speaker 3: I'm completely blocking that out. Don't remember any of that
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: that he was even there. I respect that after the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: fiasco that was Veronica, he doesn't want to have his
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: new relationship on totally that's totally fine, But I would
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: like to see what's up with him. Yeah, me too,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: me too. I'd like to see that gorgeous face everybody makes.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Please make sure you are watching on YouTube. You can
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: find this podcast on YouTube at pink Shade.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: You can look it up pink Shade or pink Shade Bunkies.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: It comes up. And Kimberly of a Date with Dayline.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Also has a YouTube. It's called a Date.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: With K and K. That stands for Kimberly and Katie.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I know it.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to have a date with a different
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: K and K Kimberly and Kisha on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Yay, look at that.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Wait, on Thursday, I have Miguel Luciano, my buddy, coming
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: on to chat about Bravo.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very excited about that.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: And then on Friday, our episode will be out on
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: pin Shaped Prime, our recap of the Single Life Tell All,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Part two, and then we're rolling in next week into
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: therapy and a castle.
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  Speaker 4: It's the last resort. Yeah.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: And according to many of these couples social media, it
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: worked great. They totally stayed together, they got fixed.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be rough because Ginny's sare and
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: she's not well.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: I know Titis and Patrick, but at least they're still together. Yes,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: we all know what happened with Tys and Patrick. We
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: all know Chicaina and Surper. We all know like Girmo
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: s Ed who knows if what it's real and what's not.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: We all Guermo and Kara that didn't work.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the couples have about the same track record
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: as I love the people on Love is Blind or
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Married at first sight that set people up.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Yara and Jovie are also separated.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: Correct, they are so cross she dumps them. So it's
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: literally worked for none of them except maybe Submit and Jenny.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Stacey and Flora and are still together even though he
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: lives in Connecticut and she lives in Miami.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing great.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: Jasmine and Gino. No, oh, Brandon and Julia they're still together.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. In the past seasons, there have been some
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: couples that worked.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: The current season obviously is going to be terrible, so
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: we're here for it.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: So we do that on Fridays.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody, that's it.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: Thanks Kimberly, I'll see you this weekend, HI