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Real Housewives Breakdown with Zack Peter · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a juicy show. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I
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  Speaker 1: have returned guest. You know him. He's got a top podcast, YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Peter, welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me back.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it. There's so many things that have
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  Speaker 1: been going on in our world of pop culture and Bravo.
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  Speaker 1: So it was announced officially that Vanderpump is coming back.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about this a little bit on the top
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  Speaker 1: of the Thanksgiving show because I did a new show
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  Speaker 1: for that. But with none of the returning cast. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know... Well, I knew it was coming.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I knew from some of the people they knew like
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  Speaker 1: a week prior.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I had heard that they were interviewing people and
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  Speaker 1: things like that and auditioning people, but that also it
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  Speaker 1: was with James Kennedy. And when I saw James Kennedy
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  Speaker 1: at the Vanderpump thing, I go, well, I've heard some things.
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  Speaker 1: And he goes, what have you heard? And so I
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  Speaker 1: said that and he's like, no. So I am kind
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  Speaker 1: of sad. I hope he finds a place on one
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  Speaker 1: of these shows, either with the new kids or on
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  Speaker 1: the Valley.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think James will be fine without the show.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to do his DJ thing. He's going to
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  Speaker 3: be DJ Pauly D. I think he'll be he's one
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  Speaker 3: of the few on the cast that will be OK
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  Speaker 3: after all of this. He is really good reality TV.
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  Speaker 3: I think the network will take a break from him
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  Speaker 3: because I know like people are still trying to push
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  Speaker 3: like the allegations against him like out there. And they're
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  Speaker 3: still trying to like make that a thing that I think.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you mean through the Raquel relationship?
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  Speaker 3: Raquel and Kristen and like all the things that people
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  Speaker 3: have said about, you know, his past relationships with the
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  Speaker 3: two of them that I he's going to let the
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  Speaker 3: dust settle. He'll come back in some capacity. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's one of the few that's a great reality star
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  Speaker 3: that like people still want to see and like watching
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  Speaker 3: his evolution on the shows. I mean, he like nobody
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  Speaker 3: cares about Katie and nobody cares about the sandwich. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to spin off about the stupid sandwich shop.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think is going to happen with
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  Speaker 1: Katie and Ariana?
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  Speaker 3: Ariana's going to be fine if she plays her cards, right?
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  Speaker 3: She'll probably transition into more of like a host. Love
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  Speaker 3: Island will keep her around for another season or two.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the longest they've kept a host is like
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  Speaker 3: four seasons. And I feel like by her third or
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  Speaker 3: fourth season, she'll do like the Kristen Cavallari thing. Like
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  Speaker 3: right after the Hills, remember she was doing all these
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  Speaker 3: like red carpets and hosting gigs. And then eventually she
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  Speaker 3: ended up becoming a podcaster. So I don't think Ariana's
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  Speaker 3: like particularly, and I know people hate when I say this,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she's like the most interesting host. or
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  Speaker 3: the most entertaining to watch. I think she was great
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  Speaker 3: on Love Island, but I think the Ariana rose-colored glasses
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  Speaker 3: will wear off eventually. And Katie's, I don't know what,
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  Speaker 3: she's going to have to get a normal job in
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years. Nobody wants to see her on
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  Speaker 3: reality TV. The sandwich shop is not going to last.
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  Speaker 3: She's nice, but I don't envision her doing much, but
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  Speaker 3: knitting again.
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  Speaker 1: I do feel that Katie, I don't really, I like
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  Speaker 1: her a lot as a person, but I kind of
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  Speaker 1: don't know What you do from here, except if you really,
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  Speaker 1: really get into the sandwich shop and maybe really do
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  Speaker 1: something in the restaurant food space, if that's something that
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  Speaker 1: she can do. I mean, of course, you know, she
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  Speaker 1: has a podcast. She can be still an influencer. She's
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  Speaker 1: still like pretty and fashionable. She's not even a good influencer, though.
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  Speaker 3: Like Sheena's a good influence. Like Sheena's like, buy this Smirnoff.
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  Speaker 3: And Sheena's like, look at my outfit and here's my vlog.
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  Speaker 3: Like Sheena's putting herself all over social media. I don't
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  Speaker 3: see Katie doing, like even the Vanderpump announcement, she like
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  Speaker 3: did an Instagram story and she's like, gonna miss you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Like it was so like, what?
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  Speaker 1: That is very true. But I do see like James Kennedy, great,
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  Speaker 1: could be great on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out
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  Speaker 1: of Here, the villain, the traitors. He could be great
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  Speaker 1: on that. So could Tom Sandoval. Tom Sandoval is already
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  Speaker 1: on Traitors. So if he does well in that capacity,
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  Speaker 1: he could be doing other things. He also did the
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  Speaker 1: Special Forces. It looks like we know Tom Schwartz lives
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  Speaker 1: now next to Jax in the Valley. And we know
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  Speaker 1: that Sheena did a lot of appearances on The Valley
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  Speaker 1: and Lala as well. And so I think that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be incorporated in that. in that friend group
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  Speaker 1: because it's organically friends. So, yeah. And then we'll see
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  Speaker 1: how this, how do you, do you have much hope
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  Speaker 1: for just a brand new bunch of people, struggling actor
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  Speaker 1: type people?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: This show's going to flop harder than the Roni reboot.
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  Speaker 1: Cause you are on fire today. He is not only back.
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  Speaker 3: No, think about it. We had Lohan Beach Club. We
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  Speaker 3: had what happens at the Abbey. Like they've tried to
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  Speaker 3: recreate Vanderpump so many different times with a good cast
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  Speaker 3: of people that are messy. It doesn't, work because when
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  Speaker 3: Vanderpump first came out, it was so new. And we
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  Speaker 3: fell in love with the messiness of the show. And
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  Speaker 3: we followed them all of these years because we watched
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  Speaker 3: them grow up. And we watched Stassi go from the
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  Speaker 3: brat to the wife. And I think that's why everyone
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  Speaker 3: stood by her through her cancellation is we got to
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  Speaker 3: know them over the years. So we were invested in them.
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  Speaker 3: We don't care about a bunch of messy kids that
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  Speaker 3: are going to be working at the restaurant. We already
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  Speaker 3: saw it. It's going to be compared to the original.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to live up. It's going to feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's trying too hard, similar to Roni.
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  Speaker 1: I think also reality TV in general, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: asking a lot of this generation, all the generations that
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  Speaker 1: watch X, Millennial, and Z to really learn about 10
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  Speaker 1: new people or whatever, seven new people and care about
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  Speaker 1: all seven new people like we did 15 years ago
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  Speaker 1: when reality shows were all we had. When you're watching TikTok, scrolling,
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  Speaker 1: scrolling all night long so quick, I think that is
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  Speaker 1: the challenge of launching any new show, whether it's the
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  Speaker 1: Southern Charm Savannah or Winter House or whatever those things
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  Speaker 1: that like are not around anymore. It's because we're asking
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  Speaker 1: a lot or the Martha's Vineyard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I read an article this morning. They're like, all these
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  Speaker 3: shows are on pause. I'm like, is that just the
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  Speaker 3: new name for canceled? Like, are we just saying that
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  Speaker 3: we're shelving it and it's on pause until... We decide
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  Speaker 3: nobody cares.
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  Speaker 1: I think they don't like to say cancel. I think
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  Speaker 1: they like the unpause also because it's dangling a carrot
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  Speaker 1: with these people to stay behaved and letting them know
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  Speaker 1: you never know what could come back.
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  Speaker 3: Like Miami.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So just be good. Don't bash the network. Don't
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  Speaker 1: sue the network. Like you might have a chance of
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  Speaker 1: coming back. Look what happened. Yeah. Look at Miami came
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  Speaker 1: back eight years later. Yeah. I think that you're right
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  Speaker 1: about that. So, yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So I was actually with Sheena. I was with Summer
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  Speaker 1: Moon and Sheena. We went to the cute little zoo
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  Speaker 1: in Palm Springs. And yeah, I mean, she is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and she's doing all her things. Yeah. She has the vlog.
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  Speaker 1: She has the podcast. She has, like you said, and
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  Speaker 1: then she'll be on the Valley. And I'm sure she's
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  Speaker 1: not making whatever, if she's per day seemed that she
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  Speaker 1: would ever be making, being that she was like an
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  Speaker 1: OG on Banner Pump. But- she's smart to have been,
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  Speaker 1: I'm game. I'm ready to go. I'm in the hood.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I moved there. Like that was a smart move because
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  Speaker 1: all these other things for her to continue. Well, we,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody laughed at her because of it. They're like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: she's moving to the, what does she think she's going
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  Speaker 3: to be on the, the new, the Valley? We don't
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  Speaker 3: want her on the Valley. It's like, guess what? Now
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  Speaker 3: she is on, we have what Sheena, Lala and Schwartz
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  Speaker 3: that are going to be on the Valley next season. Um, Listen,
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  Speaker 3: they found a way to stay relevant and to keep
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  Speaker 3: rolling with it. And Sheena's going to be on TV
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  Speaker 3: for a while. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So good for all of them. This was a cute story.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it, but Martin Lawrence's daughter, Jasmine,
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  Speaker 1: and Eddie Murphy's son are engaged.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a fun throwback.
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  Speaker 1: Is that not like the cutest funny nepo baby love
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  Speaker 1: story we've ever heard?
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  Speaker 3: That's it. I would not have. put them together. But
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  Speaker 3: that is a cute story.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be kind of really fun now that everyone's on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and stuff, because back in the day, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Starz kids would meet, but we didn't know everything
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  Speaker 1: about it. And we're like, oh, isn't that weird that
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  Speaker 1: those two were married? You know, you didn't know. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, yeah, why wouldn't these stars get together?
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  Speaker 1: But they said the dads didn't introduce them. It was
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  Speaker 1: Martin Lawrence's brother, her uncle, that introduced them.
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  Speaker 3: And Well, they're all still in the same circles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to run in. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: And it's actually a cute story.
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  Speaker 1: It's totally cute. And I just feel like it needs
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  Speaker 1: to be like made into like a like a funny, cute,
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  Speaker 1: heartwarming story with them like playing themselves. OK, let's get
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  Speaker 1: into Real Housewives of Salt Lake. So Heather Gay's new book,
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  Speaker 1: you just mentioned it.
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  Speaker 3: We were walking upstairs.
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  Speaker 1: When is it available?
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday, December 3rd.
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  Speaker 1: Did you get an early copy? Can you review it
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  Speaker 1: for me?
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't. I had no interest in getting it. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I had heard things that had come from it, but
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  Speaker 3: I didn't need the advance copy. Even screeners, I don't
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  Speaker 3: even watch screeners anymore. I just wait until it's all out.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get an advance copy?
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  Speaker 1: I did not. I just saw one article that someone said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the scoop at the end is that she talks about
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  Speaker 1: the receipts, timeline, all that stuff. And that she said
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  Speaker 1: that at one time, Monica said or was revealed that
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  Speaker 1: Jen Shah's husband tried to kiss her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But then Monica came back and made a statement, a
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  Speaker 1: very well-written statement. And it was just like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's really sad that you still have to talk about
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  Speaker 1: me and you're exploiting other people's lives and that this
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  Speaker 1: absolutely is not true. I never, you know, got together
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  Speaker 1: with him or anything like that. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what this second I mean, I like Heather Gay a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what else she can tell in the
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  Speaker 1: second book.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even care who gave her the
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  Speaker 3: black eye anymore. Like there's nothing we never knew.
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  Speaker 1: And we still don't know. Do we know?
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  Speaker 3: No. Well, she said it was Jen Shaw or she
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  Speaker 3: alluded to it being Jen Shaw at the reunion last year.
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  Speaker 3: But like, you know, and that's when Jen came out
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  Speaker 3: and she's like, that's not true. And I'll sue you
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  Speaker 3: if you say that. And then she said it and
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  Speaker 3: there was no lawsuit. So I don't know if Jen
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  Speaker 3: really did give her the black eye or didn't or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But like, it's just it's not like if this is
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  Speaker 3: the most interesting thing to come out of her book.
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  Speaker 3: And I'd heard about the Monica and Coach Shaw stuff
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  Speaker 3: maybe about a week and a half ago before the
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  Speaker 3: story actually dropped. And I was just like, really? Like,
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  Speaker 3: that's what she's going to be leading with to try
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  Speaker 3: and promote her book is this Monica and Coach Shaw
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  Speaker 3: affair where they like met at a gas station and
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  Speaker 3: like he came on to her.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the story?
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  Speaker 3: That's the story is that they met up at a
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  Speaker 3: gas station and then at the gas station is when he,
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  Speaker 3: you know, made a move on her and she rejected him.
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  Speaker 3: And then I guess she told someone. I'm assuming that Heather,
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  Speaker 3: so Heather won't reveal who her source is, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: assuming it's Tanisha, the girl that told her about Reality
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  Speaker 3: Von Teese.
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  Speaker 1: Which is also a very untrustworthy person. I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: are you feeling about Salt Lake this year?
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  Speaker 3: It's had some good moments.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the best moment is hiring Bronwyn and
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  Speaker 1: her May-December relationship with, like, crotchety Todd, who just was
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  Speaker 1: convinced after who knows what to let her do this
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  Speaker 1: and to be part of it. And he's showing up. Now,
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  Speaker 1: one of two things can happen next season. He... Stop
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  Speaker 1: showing up like Harry Hamlin and Tom Girardi where we
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  Speaker 1: like never see him anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Or Mary Cosby's husband. He's gone too.
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  Speaker 1: We just don't see the husband and he lets her
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  Speaker 1: do her thing and they stay married. But I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: the producers will say, well, we're not going to ask
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  Speaker 1: you back. The producers are probably like, yeah, we already
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  Speaker 1: know that's going to be your MO. But the thing is,
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  Speaker 1: is that like if that's your husband, you can say, Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: he's sick. Sorry, you know, he has a business meeting. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to save the marriage and you don't
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  Speaker 1: want him to be seen and you still want to
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  Speaker 1: have your fun, then I would say don't force him
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  Speaker 1: to do any more of this next year. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she did say in an interview, oh, it was a
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  Speaker 1: throwaway thing. But she did say, everyone thinks I'm a
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  Speaker 1: gold digger, but who knows? Maybe, you know, watch out.
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  Speaker 1: Season 17, Bronwyn gets a sugar baby. And I'm like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: so you're already, how are you getting a sugar baby?
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  Speaker 1: Because Todd's either divorcing Todd or you're going to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: be single or cheating on him or whatever. I mean.
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  Speaker 1: That I mean, that's like, again, that is like Erika Jayne,
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  Speaker 1: who was like, I was going to hold that man's
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  Speaker 1: hand until he died. And then he lived like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I just we get it.
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  Speaker 1: There is a plan here. It is a transactional thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he ever heard of the show
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  Speaker 3: or had any idea what she was signing up for.
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  Speaker 3: And like, he's hating every process, every part of the
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  Speaker 3: process filming this show. I don't think he'll want her
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  Speaker 3: to do another season. But like the housewives, once they
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  Speaker 3: get their first season in and they get a little
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  Speaker 3: taste of the fame and the audience likes them, they
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  Speaker 3: can't walk away.
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  Speaker 1: She'll never walk away.
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  Speaker 3: She would rather divorce him than leave the show.
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  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. And especially with the child being gone
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  Speaker 1: and she's going to be like, no way am I
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: going back to just wearing weird outfits and meeting you
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: at the airport with your coffee cup. Like no way
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: that and no way just wearing clothes. couture that only the,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: you know, maitre d' of the one nice restaurant in
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake can see me in. Like, no, I'm a star.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I was meant to be a star. I love it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: It's not going away. She will 100% put her foot
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: down and be like, either you let me do it
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: and you don't appear that much or we're done.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Do you think she really dresses like that outside of
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: the show? Like, two years ago she was wearing these
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: crazy outfits going to lunch. Like, just walking around Salt
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Lake in these outfits.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Um.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit and then she upped it for
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the show. Because I think that's– but also she was
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow's friend. So she knew about the show. She
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: watched the show, I'm sure. And she knew if I'm
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: going to get chosen, these are the things that are
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: going to make me pop. It's that I actually have money.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'm that person that does get invited to the real
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: fashion shows because I'm that good of a customer. So
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that's what I think. Yeah.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Her house is ugly though. Her and Mary Cosby.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: The worst.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: They're so bad.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Now, everybody was freaking out about the Mary Cosby with
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: her son moment, which was which was really sad.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, also, I see what Ali Shapiro said.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Jill Zarin's daughter.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: What did she say?
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: She said that she's like as a former real housewife kid,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: like this shouldn't have ever been aired.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: It shouldn't have been aired because like it's something that's
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: going to have to live with him. And this should
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: have been taken care of off camera. And we should
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: have had this storyline once he was in a better
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: place after rehab.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I agree. It made me wonder sometimes when I think
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: sometimes kids like are like fine. You know, and the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: cameras are there. I always wonder if before the mom goes, okay,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the cameras are coming. We fucking hate the cameras. The
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: cameras are coming. We're going to have a meal. We're
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: going to talk about your baseball game, whatever. And then
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you'll get a new pair of Jordans. So, like, we
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: don't know. And it made me wonder when I was
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: watching it. And listen, this is Juicy Scoop and this
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: is not politically correct, whatever. But it made me wonder, like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: did she get him to go on camera? Because she's like...
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I'll give you some more money or I'll leave you
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: alone for two days to be alone in your room.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I just need you to talk to me. And then
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: once they started talking, he was high and wasn't thinking
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: there's cameras on me. This is going to live in infamy, whatever.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: And then it doesn't. And then when they did a
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: follow up at Bravo Fan Fest or whatever, and they said,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and Mary says he's doing well. Not he's in rehab.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Not he's 45 days sober.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: And I feel, I mean, I listen, I feel for her.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I feel for anybody who's struggling with the child who
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: is into drugs and not living up to their potential
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: because of them. And I think it's absolutely horrible. And yes,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: this is like a brave moment, but for the, yeah, it's,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it's iffy. I agree. It's just kind of iffy.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I agree it's iffy. I think from like a moral perspective,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: you probably shouldn't put your son on the show in
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: that condition. But I also think in that moment, she
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: didn't realize, like I think she just thought he was
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: smoking weed. Like I think she really believed that. When
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I first started seeing him in scenes this season, I
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's a lot more than just weed
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: like he's really not present yeah so I think he
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I think that's why she did it because she was
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: like oh we'll just have another regular scene that we
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: normally film with him like last season when he told
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: her he was married like you know like little scenes
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: where we see their relationship but we don't get too
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: deep I don't think she expected the scene to go
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: as deep as it did so I don't think she
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: was deliberately trying to out his addiction because I don't
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I think she was in denial that he even had
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: an issue until they were having that conversation. He's telling her,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I started doing this when I was 16 and I
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: was mixing this with that. And then it was starting
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: to click to her that that was real. And I
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: think she was just in the moment. So I don't
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: think it was premeditated. As a viewer, I did really
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: like watching the scene because for me, it was very
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: real where I feel like Housewives is so performative now.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: To me, I compared it to when Vicky found out
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: her mom died and she breaks down and she's on
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the floor sobbing. And it was just such a real
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: raw moment that the audience could connect to that from
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: a viewer's perspective, I really appreciated the candor in that moment.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: But I understand where someone like Allie, whose mom embarrassed
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: her by sending her to fat camp on camera, would
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: be a little touchy about it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. Otherwise, I feel the show... I it's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: it's still a struggle to get through. I'm still a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: little bit bored by some of these fights. I mean,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: their fight at the whatever fake Girl Scout camp. I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: can't remember. I couldn't even figure what the fight was about.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I just was like about the rumor between Lisa Barlow
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and Mary Cosby and the fight that went on between
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: them and the kids.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: No.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: They got into a fight at I guess it was
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: at that Girl Scout camp and the. Lisa Barlow, I guess,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: made a comment about Mary's son and I guess about
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: alluding to him possibly being on drugs. And then Mary
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Cosby responded and like took a shot at her kid
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: and I think called him the R word.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: And so that was a big thing that that was
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: supposed to air. And then they ended up cutting it
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: from that entire scene altogether, probably because they were going
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: to lean more into the Mary Cosby story.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And they want her to be liked and have some sympathy. Well,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen the text and we've talked to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: other housewives that in the past they were all terrified
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of her and terrified that she would lash out and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: call them racist and all these other things. And in
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the process, she would write really mean texts attacking their
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: looks and their style and their money and like real
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: lowbrow stuff. And yet she's also– ahead of a church,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and now we just never hear about the church.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: No, the church has gone away.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Never hear about the step-grandfather that she's married to. But
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I did see something, and I don't know how legit
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it is, it looked at that her house is also
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: in foreclosure.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Probably. I mean, now that her church has been outed,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: she's not getting as many of the parishioners' money as
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: she needs.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, it's a good season.
• 21:47
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• 21:49
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• 21:50
  Speaker 4: The doesn't matter, it's nothing thoughts that become kind of
• 21:53
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• 22:17
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• 22:20
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• 22:23
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• 22:28
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• 22:31
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• 22:34
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• 22:37
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• 22:37
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• 22:40
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• 22:42
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• 22:45
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• 22:47
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• 22:49
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• 22:56
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• 23:09
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• 23:13
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• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I just really want to get into Dorit and PK.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: So Dorit has been on the show for eight years. Yeah.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: They've only been married nine. So they– Oh, I didn't
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: realize they were– When she got on the show, Phoenix
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: was like three months old, a little girl, and the
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: boy was like two, Jagger. And– So we see them and,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: you know, she was quite the character with this like
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: kind of put upon English accent and her fashion and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: everything and PK and boy George and all this stuff.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: And so now they are separated and we see that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: they're separated and they go out to dinner. And I,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to me, that was like the most intriguing, probably marriage, divorce,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: whatever scene I've ever seen on TV. in any of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the franchises, and there's been so many breakups and divorces,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: but that he would go and sit down and like
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: have this harsh conversation of which he basically said, well,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Dorit, you know, when you met me,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I was the global entrepreneur. I had everything. And you
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: were this enthusiastic girl that wanted to be social and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: come out. And now it's like, you know, whatever. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: then she goes, I know you say I emasculate you
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and blah, blah, blah. Well, this is the thing with
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: marriage like this, whether you're on TV or not. Nobody
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: is the same as they were eight years ago. The
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: guy is not as like can't get enough of your
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: body and everything. And the girl is not as impressed
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: with every little thing you do. Also, when they met,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: there already was like a disparaging thing in that he
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: was the global entrepreneur. He was this older guy with
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a whole other family that he had. They met. She
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: got pregnant. They had Jagger at the wedding. And, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and then she gets thrust on the show. One thing
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I thought that she was was interesting is she said
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: he the show came to them, I guess, probably through
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: him and knowing Lisa Vanderpump.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And he wanted her to do it. It was not
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: her idea. And her first initial thought was, oh, I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: don't think this is me. And he pushed her to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: do it. And then just recently in the interview with
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Alex Baskin, who produces all these shows, She said she
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: was really thinking about not coming back. Yeah. And he said, well,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: you– and PK said, well, you have to do it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And that made her go, well, then I'm not going
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to do it. And then she decided to do it. But, yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: he says you have to do it because you've got
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to make this– million-dollar-a-year income and everything that comes along.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: With it because— She's got to pay his debt.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's broke. I mean, their house is in foreclosure.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Well, he should stop living in hotels.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say— PK, don't sue me. I'm not
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: going to say you are broke, but it seems to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: be that there are financial issues where, you know, moving— whatever.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: He has plenty of things that are making money and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: some that are not. Let's just say that.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Listen, nobody's going to cut a revenue source.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And one of it is apparently not paying the mortgage.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's a plan there that we don't
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: know about that makes it completely okay. But the article
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: says– Four months of no pay or five months now.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Why has nobody sued Dana Wilkie? She puts all this
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: shit out, all these rumors, and she never has to
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: put a disclaimer.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that must not be. That must be– I mean,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that is– there was something.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: That said that. I think– well, the interesting thing.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: About that– Allegedly, and if it's not true, then that's terrible.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Allegedly, yes.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And I hope it's not true because that's another awful
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: thing to have to move out of the home that
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: your kids know.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But like I said, you know, if it's just a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: matter of four or five months payment, I would think
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that you'd be able to gather that up.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I think he wanted her to do the show because
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: he wanted to promote his his clients and he wanted
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Boy George on there. And he thought that this would
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: give Boy George maybe some new relevance that he could
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: book a few more shows and he could maybe, you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: promote whatever clients he had on Beverly Hills. Um, and
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: then obviously I think he wants her to stay on
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: the show. Cause I mean, that's a big income that
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: like nobody's going to easily walk away from that, whether
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: you're having financial issues or not, like unless you're making
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: boatloads of money where like that, that check is completely insignificant.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Like nobody's going to walk away.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And I really do think everyone now realizes that like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: When that stops, the audience really forgets quickly. They forget
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: about storylines. They forget about past cast members. And, you know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: as much as, oh, my gosh, Lisa Renna is a
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: legit model and killing it and everything. I mean, we're
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: not talking about her. And, I mean, it is– so
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: you couldn't– you might be able to be set and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: do something, but I think at– Dorit's age and everything,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: she's at a great age to keep going. And that
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: was good advice that he told her to keep doing it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: It was smart. I mean, because housewives always get to
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: that point where their ego gets big and they're like,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I can walk away from the show. And they don't
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: realize not only is it the loss of income, but
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: like you said, the loss of the relevance. I mean,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: if you want to stay relevant, the only way you
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: can do that is to start a podcast and bang
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: your horse trainer.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Sorry, daddy. I love you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And that's another one. Like, we don't care about that story.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: That was a juicy story two weeks ago. You and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I talked about it. Teddy Mellencamp of Beverly Hills, former
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, now a podcaster, was accountability coach where she
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: would text people and say, you had too many carrots.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: That business went away thanks to Ozempic. And but, you know,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: so she was sleeping with her married husband. horse trainer
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: where her daughter also does horses. And she said, well,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I've taken accountability and like everyone else needs to move along. Okay.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But I just think again, well, all right. So the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: people that always hated her now feel good that they're
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: on the right side of history of hating her. And
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the people that didn't think she was that bad are like, no,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: she was pretty bad. And the rest of the people
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: are like, I still don't care.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Like, I still don't care. You're just another cheating Beverly
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Hills housewife, famous or not. That's what you are. So
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: she'll just continue on.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I think she should have just leaned in, like done
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: a whole podcast episode on it, like just, you know,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: told her truth and like.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I think in her defense, I think it is.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, she has the young kids.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And I think it is sticky with him and his
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: job and the wife who also rides the horses. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: so I think she probably did the right thing in
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: just saying, I fucked up and now you guys know.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: And that's the end of the story. That's all I'm
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: going to say about it. I mean, I think that's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: kind of all. I mean, I think that's all you
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: can do once you've done that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also think she's probably in a different
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: chapter of her... Like, she got her face left. She
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: looks great. Like, she has the podcast. She's making her
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: own money. That, like, I can see her totally entering
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: her single era right now and, like.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance I'd ask her back?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think so either.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think that they would. I just hope whoever
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: she does end up with, it's cuter than the horse
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: trainer because he wasn't particularly attractive.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: No.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Not to, like, blow up your marriage over him.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: No, but... Yeah, I don't really care about Dorit's fighting
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: with Kyle, though I know that's going to be a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: big thing of like... Well, they've already made.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: They're friends now. Like, we see them hanging out all
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: the time now that it's like, I don't know how
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: invested I am in that.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the stuff with PK is interesting. Yeah, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: then he, you know, and then she, you know, she's like, well,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you're an alcoholic. And you know what? Just like the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Shannon Bedore, which we'll get into, I think the audience...
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Are a lot of boozers. Yeah. And I don't think
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that that makes them stop liking you.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: No.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: And if you are an alcoholic and now you're not,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and then you can use that sobriety superiority.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Like, well, I'm sober now. So any, yeah, if I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: was awful to you, I was awful to you. But
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: now that I'm sober, I see. You weren't that great
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to me. You know what I mean? And it's like.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I'm over the sober storylines.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I'm over the sober storylines because they get boring. Like
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: we saw Vanderbilt. They did a water tasting. I'm like, no,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I want you guys to get fucked up again and
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: sleep with each other. Like give me another, you know,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: go bang Rick House some more. Like give me something
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: interesting other than a water tasting.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: The sober journey is not one for good reality TV.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: No. Leave reality TV when you reach that point.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It is a challenge.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: And, you know, it's a journey and it's a lot
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: of people are on it. And yeah, so that I
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: don't really care about. But they're always so fun to watch.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: So it'll be good. But I would like to see,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you know, Dorit go into the Lauren Sanchez of it
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: all and find like a real baller billionaire. But she
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: said she's not dating anyone. She's not thinking about dating anyone.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: But I would be shocked if they end up. Staying
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: together and making it work. I could see them doing
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a long separation like Kyle and Mauricio. And then eventually
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: something will pop up. They filed like but it could
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: be like two years from now where they're just going
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to kind of do this dance until someone finds somebody
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: else romantically that isn't going to put up with it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: That's like, no, you got to file like.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I don't see them filing romantically.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: in the near future, but I don't think, I just
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: don't think they're interested in the relationship anymore. Like PK,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: you can tell is so done. Like he wasn't even
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: willing to play with her at the dinner where they
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: were gonna like, we're working on things. He was just
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: like really laying it out straight.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: No, he fell out of love with her a while ago. Yeah,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: for sure. And I think, now I've talked at nauseam
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: about Kyle and Morgan and my latest thing, which is
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: what I stick by is, I don't think we'll ever
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: know if they, diddle each other's dues or did the
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: lickety splits. I really don't. I think it's possible maybe
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: they didn't. And she saw this as a great opportunity
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to have an interesting storyline to, and maybe she was
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: enthralled with her. If I was to bet, I mean,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I talk about this, like who killed JonBenet, okay? Who
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: killed JonBenet Ramsey? Did they, where were they? They probably
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: messed around a little. I don't think they have in
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: a while. Morgan will take her calls and they're friends.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: She does not want to be on Housewives anymore. She's
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: doing really well in her music.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: You're welcome, Morgan.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: And Morgan has never completely come out.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: She had a husband. There was a clip of her
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: on a daily morning show. And she's like, that's my
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: husband over there playing guitar. And so we don't even know.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: And this whole thing, I mean, she probably is or
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: at least by. So I definitely think. that's over with.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Kyle's not going to flirt with other women. We're never
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: going to hear about it until she gets with some
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: other guy. And I do believe that she was probably
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: trying to meet Kevin Costner and Aspen.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: No, I think so too. I think Morgan was probably,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I think she was in a transition period of her life.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Kids are growing up. She's not a mom anymore. Mauricio
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: is moving on. Their marriage is fractured. She's not a
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: wife anymore. And her like, identity was so built in
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: being a mom and a wife for so long that
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I think she was going through an identity crisis. Morgan
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: came into her life. There was probably some sort of
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: emotional connection that they had. I don't think it was
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: super physical, if at all. I think that it was
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: definitely more emotional and Kyle caught feelings, which maybe got
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: a little confusing for her. And I think Morgan was like, oh,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: you're the straight lady that's confused right now. And you
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: think that you want to dabble into the lady pond.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: And I've been around this, you know, block too many times.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: You always go back to your husband. Like, I'll play
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: around with you because it feels good, but I'm not
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: going to go all in with you because it's not safe.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: And remember they were, like, filming a documentary?
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: About Morgan, and Morgan had some gene in which he
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: got a voluntary double mastectomy to get rid of a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: different breast gene than the Braxton or whatever it is.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I wonder if we'll ever see that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares. About the documentary about her. Like, obviously, very boring. But, like,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: nobody's like, let me see Morgan Wade's journey of, you know.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: It's after the surgery that, like, nobody cares. Nobody knew
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: who she was before Kyle put her on Housewives. And
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: now everybody pretends. I mean, some of her music is
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: not bad.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: They helped each other.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: They helped each other, whatever it was. Yeah.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: This one came from Bravo then and now. I'd like
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: to see this new real kick-ass version of Dorit. Could
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Camille come back?
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: They've tried that so many times.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: With Camille.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: With Camille. It just doesn't work anymore. She was good
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: at the beginning, and I just don't think Camille. I
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: think the only way we would have really wanted Camille
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: back is if we got the Morocco season of Ultimate
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Girls Trip.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Which we'll never see because of Brandy. In a sense, but.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: What Caroline Manzo said Brandy did to her in the bathroom. Yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Which they've all said never happened. Camille said it. Gretchen
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: said it. Phaedra said it. They're all like, I don't
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: know what she was smoking that night because we don't
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: remember seeing or hearing any of that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Well, then on The Real Half-Wife Zone, they said that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Eileen Davidson spoke after Kyle said she'd love to see
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: her return. Boring. And I say, no, I just kind of,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I love Eileen Davidson. She's absolutely gorgeous. But she didn't
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: really bring anything to the table. And, you know, you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: need younger people. If you're going to bring anybody, like,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: let's have them, you know, and have them have a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: real stake in it. Why are they coming back? You know?
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: And why did Kyle pick Eileen out of all people? Like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: that was the most random choice.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I think it was just a safe. It was like,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: if she says Camille, then some, then, you know, someone
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that doesn't like Camille is going to be annoyed with her.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Didn't want to say Denise Richards because I think she
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: makes another appearance. Like, I just think it was just
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: like a safe one.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, Denise, have you seen her OnlyFans?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I've not seen her OnlyFans, but when is that E!
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: show coming?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. She shows it all on there, though.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Full of a badge? Everything.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: You see it all. You're a subscriber? I was a
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: subscriber for a minute.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Tell me exactly what it is. So it's photos, videos, what?
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Photos, videos, there's like one of her like in the
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: garden and her tits are out and she has her
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: dirty feet and she's putting her dirty feet in the camera.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: She's like watering the garden. Yeah, it's wild.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So, and do you really think she makes two million
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a month?
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think you do at the beginning, but
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: eventually like how many times can we see the cooch
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: before it's like, okay, it's the same thing, same angles.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I think she'll really make money if Aaron gets on
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: with her. And they do like a couples thing.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And they actually scream.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if they go full screw, but, like,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: we're both watering the garden together naked in the backyard.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: People would pay money to see his dick.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Does he still do his business where he, like,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: reads people's minds with crystals or something? What's that business?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody really understood it. But, yeah, it was, like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: some sort of, like, energy work or something.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Ugh.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. Let's get into some stuff that's happened
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: since The Real Housewife OC has concluded.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: So I did watch John Jansen's.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: His interview, his 30-minute interview with Bryce.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: With Entertainment Tonight, I watched it. And, you know, I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: read to the comments and people are, you know, forever
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Team Shannon, not interested in hearing his side. However, I
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: do want to tell you his side since I did
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: watch the whole thing.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Please give me the debrief.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: And, you know, I have talked to them a few times,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: he and Alexis, at events and whatnot, and, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: very much want to get their side out, which is
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that he'd said. That they met,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you know, through friends, he and Alexis. Alexis was already
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: talking about going back to OC. They knew it would
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: be a bad idea, but they just couldn't deny it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: So they started to date. The thing with... I think
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: he really wanted to get across his, you know, he
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: loved Shannon. He, you know, was in this relationship. But
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: there were a couple occasions throughout the three or four
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: or five years that they were together. There were two
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: when she was about to resign where she went to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: him and said, if you don't agree to appear on
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the show, my contract is in jeopardy. Yeah. And I
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: believe that that was information he got. I believe he's
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: telling the truth. Now, was that said to her that
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: definitively from producers or was she knowing that it would
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: help and that she wanted him to be there and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: she wanted the world to see that she had a
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: cute happening boyfriend and she wants him to be part
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of it. And she probably knows, you know, how she,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: whatever it works with her relationships, how she can get
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: him to whatever, feel guilty, do it. So I do
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: believe that's true. And then as far as the borrowing
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the money, um, you know, he has the emails and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: everything that it was an absolute loan. Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if I believe that Alexis
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: was like already in talks to come back to OC, like,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: you know, like producers, I feel like even Stassi said
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: that after she had gotten fired, like one of the
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: producers had come to her and they were just like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: would you consider coming back? Like they feel it out.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: They put feelers out there, but it's not like a
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: real negotiation. And I think the second that Alexis was
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: like officially dating John Jansen. Then the producer was like, okay,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: now we really do want to put our eggs in
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: this basket. I think it was not the best. I mean,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: for television wise, it was a great choice to bring
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: her back because it was a captivating season, but I
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: think it wasn't a good choice for Alexis to come
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: on and then defend John, especially when John doesn't want
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: to be a part of the limelight. Like if you
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: want to be out of the limelight, then just walk
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: away from it and know you're never going to win
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: that battle. Even going into the ET interview, you know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: John was just like, I know that people may not
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: want to hear my side of this story. It's like,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: we don't like, we really don't fucking care. Like we
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: are already, we already think you're a douchebag. And I
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: watched most of the interview and he made a lot
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: of really good points. And I thought that he, you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: his side was very well articulated. He had the Excel
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: sheet to back him up that Alexis posted. Like he
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: has a lot of the groundwork and the foundation, you know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: set up for why Shannon's the worst person ever and why,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: you know, he just wants to clear his name. But
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: the thing is, the audience at this point just doesn't care.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: They don't care. But I will say this. You know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I met Shannon 11 years ago. But I, like, kind
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: of knew of her back when she had this charity
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: called This Little Light. Charity. And because she went to SC,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: but she was a few years ahead of me. So
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: we didn't know each other when we were in school. But,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you know, right away, I knew the girl who she— I
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: knew that kind of girl. I knew that Newport sorority
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: girl of her era, like, everything. And— You know, I
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: always really liked her, and she's one of those girls
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that comes from my generation where they love to talk
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: on the phone. They love to spill a lot. They
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: love to get attention when they say, oh, my God,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: he's awful, whatever. And she did that with David, and
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: it got her in trouble with Vicky because she told
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a story to Vicky that allegedly, you know, there was
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: some fight that happened that got physical with David. And
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: then when Vicky... told somebody and it got back. Then
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: it was like, you know, Shannon said, I'll never trust
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you again. I'll never talk to you. We're done. We're done.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: How dare you? That's not true. And Vicki was like, OK,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: so then you will. So then she said right there
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: in the reunion that wasn't true. That never happened.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: You know, so so there's that. So then we have
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: this other situation with this guy. And this is where
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I think Tamara was kind of like being that she'd
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: witnessed this for so long. And And she would... you know,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: be really nice to him on camera and everything. But
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: then off camera, she would tell these tales to the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: other cast members. And then the other cast members would
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: get together for coffee with the cameras there. And let's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: talk about Shannon's relationship. And they're like, yeah, like, oh
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: my God, she swore me to secrecy. And that happens
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: a lot with friends. You know, wait, we could have
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: been talking about this the whole time. Like when you
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and I got on the phone about the horse trainer,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I go, well, I know why Teddy filed for divorce.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And you're like, so do I. And you're like, I'm
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: sworn to secrecy. I'm like, so am I. And I'm like,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: does it have to do with an animal? You're like,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: does it go trot, trot? Like, it was like so,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and then we're like, okay, it's on. Okay, you know
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the same information I know, but both of us were like,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: we're not going to be the ones that are going
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: to spill it, let it get out there, and then
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: talk about it because it involves a family and everything.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and kids, yeah.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: With this type of stuff, I think then when they
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: did break up and things and even when it was
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: happening and why she'd get upset because she was like, oh,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: my God, John's going to be so mad that you
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: guys are saying this. And one of the things was that,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you know, he called her fat and that he didn't
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: pay for anything and that he had no money for
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: their future. And, you know, now they're broken up and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I could see. whether he wanted to be on the
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: show or not, I have had lies said about me.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: You have had lies said about me. It is a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: natural American reaction to want to clear that up. And
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: he's like, she said on the interview, he goes, whatever happened,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: whether she said it to the other Caffmans or whatever,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: the perception is that I'm a broke loser who doesn't
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: have money, who took money from Shannon, who also disparaged
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: her in the look department, which he says I've never done. Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And in my experience of hanging out with him a
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: couple times, he was so nice to her, talked about
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: her very nicely.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And was attentive and, like, delightful and, you know.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you put it in that perspective,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: because we have been in similar situations, and we've even
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: talked about how going on the defense is sometimes not
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: always the best move, and you're just trying to clear
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: your name because you want to prove that you're not
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: who people are saying that you are. So I get
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: it from that perspective, and I understand. I just think
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: it's a lose-lose game because it's like, if you stay quiet,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: then like you're still the bad guy. But then if
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: you speak out, like you're still the bad guy. I mean,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: maybe a few people, because myself included in watching that interview,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, he does make a few good points. And like,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: it does kind of make sense what he's saying.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: We've seen her for, you know, 11 years where she's like,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: you'll all see the truth.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Seen the dramatics. We've seen the victim thing. And she
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: had told me this story when one time we went
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: out on the boat a couple of years ago with
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: a group of people. And we were coming from the restroom,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: going back on his boat to go to his house.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: The dock is right in front of his house. And
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: now it's getting kind of dark or maybe not. And
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden she tells a story about how
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: one time she almost fell or she fell in the water.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: She fell in the water and somebody else had to
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: help her out. And John doesn't even care. And I
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: was like, she told me the story. And right away
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I kind of called her on it. And I was like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: wait a minute.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I believe that either he didn't
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: see it or the first person that saw you fall
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: in the water was the one that helped you get out.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: And all I'm imagining is Shannon in her, like, white
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: jeans and her Yves Saint Laurent, like, platform shoes and
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: how it happened. And, of course, he didn't just, like,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: leave her there wailing, whoever. I mean, but I already
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: know her M.O. And a viewer, you should know it,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: that she likes to– you know, tell those stories. And
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: when she, even when she was gaining, you know, gained weight, she,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you know, I remember her said the audience loves me
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: more now than ever.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: And the audience likes our, the housewife audience is an
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: audience made up of predominantly middle-aged women. Yeah. Half of
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: us are divorced and probably most of them drink. And
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: so they love the, the tragic life that Shannon has
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: shared with us. Yeah. You know, when we met her,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: she was thin and living in a $ 16 million house
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: with her husband and her three children. Then she reveals
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: he cheated on her. Then they get back together and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: do the vow renewal. Then he supposedly, you know, leaves
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: her on a trip in Hawaii and they get divorced
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and since then she's just rented house after house after
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: house and doesn't even have money for a facelift but
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: she's been on a show for 11 years that's international
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: that looks bad to Bravo but it also is like
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Doesn't look great on you. Yeah. You know, and then
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the argument can be, well, I didn't do well in
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: my divorce because I didn't have a good attorney. And
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the girls go to such expensive colleges and all this.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And so I think in Johnson's defense, he was just like, look,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: we both had adult kids, but everything. But I was
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: not paying for everything. And when he said the thing
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: about Bravo, she was like, I paid for the hotel.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I would think and anybody in corporate America, which he was,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: would think. I'm going to be on a TV show
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: where I'm the star and they want you to sit
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: in the audience and the camera's gonna go to you.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: So would you like to come, John? Sure. Okay, great.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Of course she's gonna handle it, of course. So now
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: he's sitting next to her on the first class ticket.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Only later does he find out that she had to
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: pay for that ticket because they only give you one
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: first class ticket. So you have to pay for a
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: second first class or put your assistant and the coach
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And yet she was like, oh, I paid
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Who would think that they wouldn't pick up a companion
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: for someone who's been on the show for eight years?
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Do better, Bravo. Everyone should have a first two first
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: class tickets when you're like the star of the show. Yeah.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: And so there was those kind of things. And I
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: think he was like, no, throughout things I picked up.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, people watch Housewives now and they think
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: everything is paid for that. They don't think a housewife
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: spends a penny because they think Bravo covers everything. Like,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: it's just natural to think. All those parties they have
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: to pay for.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: They have to pay for themselves. And yeah. So I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: think that was interesting. And then we get to the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: night of the DUI. And this whole thing that's come
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: out of, did he hear the crash and bothered not
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: to come out? It sounded like a real chaotic night. Now,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: he was gone all day in Catalina with his boat.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: And we don't know. We don't know. Was he completely
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: sober too? We don't know. I'm not saying anything, but
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: we don't know. She comes after drinking. We know how
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: much she drank because of the DUI. She's screaming and everything,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: and this is a common occurrence. The girls come and
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: see it, his daughters. I do think it's weird that
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: he didn't just get the phone and give her the phone,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: but I think he did that, he said, so that
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: she would leave. Yeah. Because he was like, I don't
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: want her here because... He had, you know, said, hey,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: she says I get physical. No, she's gotten physical with me.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: But he's smart enough to know that even if she did,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: he would never want to call the police and have
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: police come because she's famous. And also just being a man. Yeah.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Chances are you're going to lose this one. She's going
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: to say, no, he pushed me. So why even call
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: unless you're seriously in fear for your life? So he
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: just tries to get a leave. And then she backs out. Now,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: it is weird if you heard, now that he hears
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the crash, maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But then
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: people are like, why wouldn't you call the police then?
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Because she was drunk and he's probably hoping that she
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: can get out of this. And maybe if she just
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: walks away, then, which was her plan, she got out
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: of the car with the dog and was like, walking
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Archie and hoping to like deal with the car later.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: So I don't, you know, he was probably like, I'm
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: not going to be the one to call the police
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and have you get a DUI. You know, I, he
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: probably was just like, holy shit.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: We forget that. Like she did crash into a house
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: and then she like parked her car and was like
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: pretending she was walking the dog when the cops were
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: looking at like, Yeah, I mean.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: And the thing is, is like, you know, there's a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: socialite that in my neighborhood, Rebecca Grossman, who has been
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: convicted now for like 30 years. And she was, you know, allegedly, well,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: not allegedly because she was convicted, racing a guy that
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: she was seeing. They had an open marriage. This is
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: straight out of a housewife story. And racing to get
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: to their place to hang out. And she went through this.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: crosswalk and hit these two brothers and they died. So
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, that, that's the story that, you know, uh,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: everyone should always be reminded of because this girl has
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: all the money in the world. She has three grown
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: children that love her. The husband stood by her in
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the trial. She's going to, she's going to prison for
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: like 20 years. And, and also just to have that
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: on your conscience is just horrible. So it's like, yeah,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I don't, I think that's where Tamara was like confused.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: But I think the clips that we saw and the
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: edits that we saw was just telling someone, you're a
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: drunk and all this. It just doesn't look good. It's
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: like if Tamara would have been like, I'm stepping away
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: from the Trace Amigos, A, because we can't sing or
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: dance and it's embarrassing. I mean, that I would like to, like,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: please just be honest.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: That you felt like you were, like, at the Old
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Town Follies at, like, a retirement hotel.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: And Tamara wants to be young and hip and be
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: with the kids. And she realized it was a horrible idea.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: But she also said, it's too much about drinking and
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: in light of this, which totally makes sense.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Makes sense.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: So, but in some of the scenes where she feels like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring up producer Joe, like, you just watch.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: then the audience is like, wow, you're, you're just piling
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: on because of Shannon, you know, you know, she got
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the DUI. She did what she's supposed to do.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: She hit a house, but nobody was hit. Thank God.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: And then, and then on top of it, she's got
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend of three years, new girlfriend sitting across from him.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: And so every, every woman is like, that is just like,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: how much can one woman take?
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: And so I think that's, That's what happened there. And
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: she's good.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: At leaning into like the victim narrative and like, look
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: at me and poor me that I get why the audience,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I think had Alexis not been on this season, Shannon
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: would have absolutely had a bad season. The audience would
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: not have been on her side coming in with the DUI,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: even with the Tamara stuff. I think people may have
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: liked Tamara because it would have looked like Tamara was
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: trying to hold Shannon more accountable, but because Alexis was
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: in the mix and John was tied to it. It
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: just made Alexis look bad because it looked like Alexis
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: was trying to pile onto Shannon.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing is when someone says stop being
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the victim, but we're watching the victim crying, they're a victim.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Like it wasn't– she wasn't dancing– Shannon wasn't dancing on tables.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Shannon wasn't– if she was drinking– We never saw her
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: drunk all season. So even if she was drinking, she
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: was better behaved. And so I think to the audience,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: they were just like, how much can one woman take? Now,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: I have to put this out there because I'm afraid
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: it's going to happen because Bravo, do not be surprised
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: if Leslie Bedore comes on the show. That would be
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: solo of Bravo, but nothing surprises me at this point.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: And the tragedy of Shannon Bedore will then go to
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: another level.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: They are. That is David and Leslie Bedore. They have
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: been married. They have a young daughter and they have
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: each filed divorce and restraining orders in each other too
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: many times to count. But right now they are blissfully
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: in love once again.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: And who would be her connection on? Who's her lifeboat? Tamra.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think Tamara would do that. Yeah, no, no, no.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: You're right. How would she come in? I think she
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: would have to come in with like another new person.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Or like she takes yoga class at Jen Padrante's studio.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: She needs every person to go in there, pay the $ 15.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: And so like she'll go– yes. That or– You know?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Because, I mean, even somebody, like, let's say they wanted
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: to bring Gretchen. And they're like, Gretchen, can you go
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: have lunch with Leslie Bedore?
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I think even Gretchen's like, look, I saw what happened
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: with Alexa, with Tamara being friends with Alexa. It's like,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I don't need this. Yeah. So I think you're right.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: It would be hard to bring her on. So hopefully
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: that won't happen just yet.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Whoever would bring her on would get the reckoning.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're right. So they probably won't.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: But.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Do you have any inside scoop of anybody who's coming
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: or going?
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: On OC?
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: No, not on OC. I mean, they have to do
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: something because, I mean, if Alexis doesn't come back, which
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think they'll bring her back, I mean, what's
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: the story going to be now that Tamara and Heather
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: and Shannon are friends again and, like, And then we
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: have Katie.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, none of these people are friends. No. So
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: hence why, you know, when Tamara got the boot, she
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: didn't hear from Shannon for two years, which is why
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I think she came back with the wrath and was like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: fuck you. Then I do think she enjoyed Alexis. I
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: do think Alexis has a sweetness about her and, you know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: the other girls like her. But that final scene... of
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: them getting along and being like, John did hear the accident.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: And again, what does that mean? So you would have
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: wanted the cops called?
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Like you, like you almost got away with it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Like, would you have wanted the cops caught? Like you
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: probably thought he was doing himself a favor. And then
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: when she said, and then I sent the photo of
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: my bloody face or whatever. And then, you know, And,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever. A couple hours later, he was like, wait,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: what the hell's going on? She's like, he didn't see the, well,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: how many times have you gotten a text? And, like,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: how many times have I texted my husband and been like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: do you want lunch? And he's like, I already texted
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: you saying, do you want lunch? I got it. You know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: because you just go to it. So I'm like, there's
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a very good chance he didn't. Didn't see that thing
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: and then was like, holy shit.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Or he saw it and it didn't register. I've done
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: that before where people are like, you saw this photo
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: that you liked on Instagram. And I was like, I
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: may have seen it, but I didn't give it a
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: second thought. You just see things on your phone and
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: we're constantly overstimulated. I think he was so done with
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: her that he needed a break from her and all
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: the chaos that comes with that.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: And I do believe him when he said, I never
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: planned on showing these videos. These are surveillance videos. But
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: he told... Alexis and then Alexis in hearing about, you know,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: poor Shanna, poor Shanna, poor Shanna. That's when she was like,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: poor Shanna and almost hit, you know, my soon to
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: be stepdaughter. Like it's on there. And then they realize, OK,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: now that they've said it and it's on TV. But
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: it's like if this wasn't a TV show, which is
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: supposed to be reality.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: If this really happened in a neighborhood. Yeah. And someone goes,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: you know. he's got ring cameras of her acting like
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: a complete freak, almost hitting the daughter. Yeah. Like, fuck them. Like, we're,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: you know, you'd be like, all right. But because we're
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: seeing it and then there's thousands of people coming, I mean,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: that's what you do when you sign up for this.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: It's like. But what do you think about Alexis saying that,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: you know, this wasn't a real edit of, you know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: the real her and what really happened, and it was
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: just they gave her a bad edit, she said.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, it is true. You're only
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: on there so much. And she said, because I was
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: a friend, I was sort of limited. She wasn't invited
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: to the London trip. That's always really interesting when someone
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't invite someone, because we saw that on Salt Lake.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Salt Lake with Heather.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Where Heather was like, fuck you. Look, I'm not on
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: for two days. two full episodes like you're a bitch
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like I get it and I could.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Because that docks her pay if she's not on the episode.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah and same with Alexis like oh my god now
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not there for two you know for two or
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: three episodes I can't bond I can't be funny I
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: can't make friends like you win like you you win
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I get it and but um yeah I think that
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: like no I don't get think we got to see
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: like a fun side of her or anything and we
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: didn't really get to No, because they have to edit
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: it down. They kept the interesting stuff. And the interesting stuff.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Was the drama between the two of them. Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: So it's like, will they... I mean, I'd like to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: see them stay. Let's see them stay. Let's see them
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: have their wedding and see who goes and what. But
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I think Tamara will... Tamara knows that... Now if she
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: can get with Shannon again and Shannon knows the two
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: of them, they know, listen, we can keep making these
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: million-dollar-a-year paychecks. It's not going to be hating each other.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: So what do you want to do about it? Let's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: just put on our Spanx and laugh about it and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: pee in our underwear, like whatever. And when that happens,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: then I don't know how– much Tamra will be actually
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: wanting to be a bridesmaid in the Alexis Johnson wedding.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Because I mean, yeah, at the end of the day,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: it's a game of survivor. And when you're not on
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: the show, you know, or you're a friend of or
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: being friends with somebody hurts your reputation, as we saw
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: with Erica, like, you know, you're going to pick and
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: choose your sides when it's going to help your job
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: I think Katie will probably be the new villain next season.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: I think they're all going to turn on her. After
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: the way they called her out for like all her
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: stories at the reunion and nobody seems to really like her.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I think that if she stays, she's, you know, in
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: a bad, in a hard position because I think she
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: has a tragic story that she didn't want to share.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: About her ex or whatever. And she didn't want to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: share it because her kids are minors and she's probably
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: going to be forced to have to share it.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: You know, and then, and then people will like her.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Or not.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Or not. Also, this came out, Francesca Eastwood's, Clint Eastwood's daughter,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: her domestic violence case was reportedly dropped following an October arrest.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: So she and her boyfriend were fighting in a car
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: and they got pulled over. And because he had marks
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: on his face, they arrested her, but then he didn't
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: want to cooperate. And that's why it was dropped.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Well, that's like Artem and Nikki. Well, I mean, I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: guess there were no, I don't know.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Artem and who's Artem and Nikki?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Artem from Dancing with the Stars and Nikki Garcia. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: That's all been dropped. And she got everything she wanted
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: in the divorce.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: And then she has another, she has a movie coming out,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Something in the Ring. And I was like, oh, I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: wonder if that's about boxing. She's like hitting her boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good look right now.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: This was really interesting. This was, page six picked it up.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: And Kate Winslet from Titanic and all the great movies.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: She was having a heartfelt interview. And during her time
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: of going to all the events for the Oscars for that.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: You know, that was the height of, like, fashion police
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: and people commenting on people's outfits. And they showed a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: clip and you hear some guy, I don't know who
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: he is, he sounded like he had an English accent,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: commenting on a look. And he's like, I mean, if
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: it was just two sizes bigger, then she'd be okay.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, she is just squeezed in that. And it's like,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: you know, we all watched, you know, Joan, where we
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: were just talking, oh, you're fat! You're fat! You know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor, you're fat!
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: You're fat!
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: And she was like crying about it. And then the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: reporter said, did you ever have you ever talked to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: those people that made those comments? She said, yes, I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: had a moment and pulled him off. And she's like,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: it was a glorious moment. You know, I used to
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: do fashion police at the back of Us Weekly. Oh, yeah.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: And they would send the photos and stuff. I never
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: talked about anyone's body. If it was like, you know,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: all yellow, I'd be like, stop sign ahead. Like some
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: stupid I don't even know. they were like not good.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Like every, even when I wrote them, I'm like, when
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: are they going to kick me off this? Like, I'm
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: not very good. I'd send a bunch. And then sometimes
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I like set a bunch and I'd only get like
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: one in and like the editor wrote it. And I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: was like, you just still let me have my little
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: photo down there. Like it was just, it was, it's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: a hard place to be. And then when she passed
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: and they tried to bring it back, you know, it
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: was with Kathy Griffin or whoever, it was really hard
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: because it's like, she got away with it because she
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: was Joan Rivers. She was a woman of a certain age. But,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: You know, then it was like, well, no, we shouldn't
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: talk about people's bodies. Yeah. So then the show becomes,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: you know, here's this person. They don't look great. You
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: don't like their outfit. They are a larger person. And
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: then you're afraid to say.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: So you have to say, oh, my God. You know
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: what I love? I love the color blush. I love
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the color blush. It really brings out her rosy cheeks.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: And it's just boring.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: It's boring. Yeah, because, I mean, people liked that, you know,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: ruthless sort of humor that Joan had. I think it
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: really started when Juliana got canceled. Remember when Zendaya called
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: her out and, like, that was the whole scandal and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: they had to, like, cut Juliana.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I remember, as I've said this story before, but in
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Juliana's defense, I remember somebody called me. The day that
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: story came out and said, what do you think about
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Julianna Rancic? I'm like, what's the story? And they told
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: me what happened, that she said, oh, I think her
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: dreads must smell like weed and patchouli. And I go,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: who is Undyne? Oh, she's a Disney star or something.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: And my initial thought was, oh, she's probably like a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: real like anti-drug girl. And she's offended that she mentioned weed.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't know who she was. So I didn't even
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: know what ethnicity she was.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just imagining a girl with threads and it being
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: associated with weed. Yeah. And that's what the problem was.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't think like that. And then, of course, she
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: didn't write that joke. Someone wrote it. It was approved.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Then it was edited. Then it was approved. Then the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: final approval said air it. And they threw her out
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: to die. And, yeah, then it really got to be
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: don't say anything about anybody now. I believe that is
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: wrong what they said and it's crazy when you look
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: at her because I just did this– the American Reality
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: TV Awards and I've not had issues with my weight
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But when you wear like a gown, it's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: very about the waist, which is kind of not my
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: best feature. Like I have thin legs but whatever. So
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: then I see my– I saw myself on camera and
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: I thought I looked great and I had Honey Love
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Spanx and all of it.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Not Skims?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: No, Honey Love. It's a sponsor. No, I really do
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: like Honey Love. But anyway, I had everything. And, you know,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I looked good. But then I would see the angle
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: from behind and you don't see yourself behind.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: And Joan Rivers would have called you fat.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: It is a TV and I'm like, well, I, you know,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I would like to like work on my waist a
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: little bit. Like I was like, wow, that doesn't look okay.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: And it's really challenging in these gowns, which is when
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: you watch these Oscars and stuff, you really see how
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: thin everyone is. Like everyone has to be so thin
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: because you're also cut just from like the waist up.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: So it's like all, if you're like bigger shoulders, arms,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: it's just like you immediately. And it is totally wrong
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: to say all that. And I'm glad that era is gone.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's gone.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: It served its purpose and people liked it for what
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: it was. And now we can just move on. What
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: do you think about what's the scary movie coming back?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: With the Waynes?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I think that'll be fun. Of course,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I want White Chicks to come back. I say it
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: all the time. I know I have the best story.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I have the best idea for how they can come back.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Well, they have scary movies ahead.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. I wonder if like, you know, the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: biggest thing was, I think, why the guys didn't want
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: to do another one, even though it was such a hit,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: is just the amount of hours it took to get
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: them in the movie. They literally were sleeping there doing that. And,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: you know, but I wonder if there is a way,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: and I don't think it'll be as good, but couldn't
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: there be a way with like, AI and stuff that
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: almost like they could have like a not have to
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: do the makeup yeah and they're still doing the voices
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: and acting like girls and doing all that but maybe
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to actually sit in a chair for
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: seven hours.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah and wear the tight skirts and.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: The heels and like yeah no the heels and the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: outfits were okay but they had to lose they had
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: to lose a lot of weight before they did it
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: yeah and they wore you know tights because they weren't
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: going to cover their you know their skin color but
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: um No, the shoes and all that were, like, fine.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of the times they'd wear, like, tennis shoes.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: They were so tall, too. But it was, you know,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: it was just putting all that in the wig and itching.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all the prosthetics.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this guy is a football player named Josh Allen.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: He has an ex-girlfriend named Brittany Williams. Well, he just
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: got engaged to Haley Seinfeld, and they posted it. It
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: was beautiful. So then I guess people went to her page.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Brittany Williams, who's a cute girl, and we're writing probably
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: annoying things. And she wrote back as a response in,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: you know, to someone else, luckily my boyfriend owns a team.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: So her new boyfriend owns a team and doesn't play
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: for one. Don't have to be with another brain dead
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: CTE athlete. So then people went crazy and then it
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: got removed. And then she said, can anyone help? Something's
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: going on with my Instagram and I've been hacked. Liar.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Here's my advice.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: Just own it.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't have said that. Definitely delete it and then
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: ignore it.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Ignore it. Don't pretend it didn't happen. Don't address it.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: You don't have to explain that a stranger broke into
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: your house and wrote it, that the way they got
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: hacked was just one snarky comment, and that you really
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: are dating a owner of a team. That's where it
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: then becomes a story. Had you not said you were hacked,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: then it would have been like, oh my God, what
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: a bitchy thing. And it would have just died.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Why are people still using the hacking excuse? When has
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: anybody ever been like, oh yeah, somebody hacked into your
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: phone and posted this on your social media account. And
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: we believe that they would just intentionally want to I mean.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: The only way I think it happens is like where
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: you get kicked out of your own account.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: And now you've taken, I don't know, it's scary.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: But hackers come to like spam people. Like they want to,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: they don't want to like throw a shady comment just
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: to like hurt your reputation. Like they want to make
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: money off of people. Like they're not going to, you know,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: be shady in the comment section just for fun.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner spent Thanksgiving together with their kids.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: They served the homeless. They did all these fun things together.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: And J-Lo's always like looking hot, like showing up at places.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, they have three kids.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people do invite their ex to
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving. But she supposedly has a boyfriend. So I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: don't think they're getting back together.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: But Jennifer Garner is the nice mom that's like, listen,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: we'll invite your dad to Thanksgiving. And like, let's just
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: make it nice for everybody and just pretend that, you know,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: everything's good. I think she probably wants to have a
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: good relationship with Ben Affleck. Um, like even the reports
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: that were saying like she wants, she was like trying
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: to help him, you know, work on his relationship with
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: J though. Like, I believe that. I think Jennifer Garner
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: just is like that nice person that just wants to like,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: be like, listen, for the kids, it's better if you're
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: at Thanksgiving and we have a nice relationship rather than us.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: You know, fighting with each other.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: And then she's probably like, why am I getting involved? Like,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: you know what? That's why I'm divorced. That's why I
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: divorced him. Because he is crotchety.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: And you got to see it full firsthand. And now
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: you've moved on, J-Lo. And you can come to our
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: house for Thanksgiving.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Apple Martin made her special debut. as she was spun
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: around the dance floor with Chris. This is Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: They did like a debutante ball in Paris. And it
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: was everywhere. And I will share this photo with you,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: but I had my own debutante ball.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: Did you?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: I did at the Pretty Woman Hotel right here. I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: think they changed the name. At the time, it was
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: the Beverly Wilshire. Yeah. Sun Wilshire. But there you go.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Debs are still making it happen. I don't know why
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: it was in Paris, but I just guess it's like
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: high society. But that is two exes hanging out together.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: They were both there for the event, Gwyneth and Chris Martin.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: See, and not everybody needs to be a Brad and Angelina.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Like that is messy. And the shots that they take
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: and they get the kids involved and then it becomes
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: the headlines.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: And he's sober now.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: He was just doing an interview and he's sober and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: looks amazing. And whatever work he has done looks amazing.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: But it's also- You know, a few years of sobriety
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: can really make you cuter. And, you know, he's singing
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: the praises. And I think that's great, too, because what
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: started or what was the final straw was this alcohol
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: allegedly fueled fight that happened on their private plane between
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Maddox and him. And so, you know, but it's kind
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: of sad because he does not really seem to see
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: any of his kids. I think he sees the one
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: boy twin. Knox is the only one that has not
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: gotten rid of Pitt as his last name. Vivian, the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: girl twin, did. Shiloh did. Sahara did.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: Knox was just on a red carpet with Angelina.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: He looks so cute. They're so gorgeous. But then in
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: the court filing, Brad said that that was Angelina trying
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: to turn the kids against him and using the kids
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: as an accessory to show that the kids.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Still like her.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: He said that? I think it was in his response
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: because they're fighting over the Miraval lawsuit.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: The winery. The winery, yeah.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Well, that's lame because that is so sweet.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, I want the Miraval.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: But that might be the only kid that he's still
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: talking to. So he's like, please don't let her turn
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: you against me too.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: She's like, let me put him on a red carpet.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Show everybody he likes me.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake had to cancel another concert because of his
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: suffering back.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, what is happening with his back?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but this is what I think is
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: going to happen.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Is it really because of his back or people just
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: are not into him anymore?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of things. I think, you know,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: if you're not feeling great and the sales aren't there
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: and you can whatever. But this is what I think
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: is going to happen because I think because they're also
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: supposedly having trouble with the wife. I predict he'll just
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: he's going to go on a big tour. with NSYNC.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: That would be smart.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: And then so it won't be all on his shoulders.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: He won't have to do the entire show. He won't
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: have to sell the entire show.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: And it'll It'll take them back and be with guys
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: and it'll be like the heiress tour but for middle-aged women.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: And everybody will go.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Listen, New Kids on the Block do it and people,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: they sell out every stadium that they do. It's insane
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: that they still tour every year and fill all those seats.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: But people love that nostalgia.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: If he joined them too, then you'd have all the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake hits too.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's somebody that people want. People don't care
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: about 98 Degrees. Their show is not looking too hot,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: but it's because 98 Degrees and NSYNC, very different.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: And I think people want an NSYNC reunion. And I
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: think he just needs to get over his ego, know
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: that his reputation is not where it needs to be.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: And this will bring him back in good graces. Totally.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: And they'll have so much fun. And Lance and everybody
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: will just be killing it.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: They'll forget what he did to Brittany and they'll move on.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: We already did.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: We already did. These stories end quick.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Doesn't she have a part two of her book coming out?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't know that.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: I thought she had like another part of her book
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: coming out.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: No, the book is supposed to be turned into a movie. Oh,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I did just see the actress who's going to play
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: a young Madonna.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: In the biopic. I saw, oh, I don't know her name,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: but she looks just like her. It's like the, you know,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: the curly hair and like the, like her young, young,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: like when she was like 26. And it's a very
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: good match, but I forgot the name, but so. Um,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: last things, Real Housewives of Potomac. I did not watch
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: the latest, latest one, but I watched the one before
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: and talk about an expensive party. So we know that
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: these girls don't make a lot of money and the professor,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: the professor had another birthday party.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: That, uh, was on the water that had, you know,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: the ladies dancing, the, lady wearing a champagne skirt, which,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: by the way, I would never want that because the
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: only way I like champagne is if it's extremely cold.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: And now it's been sitting out.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like a trend now, like the champagne walls,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: like all.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: The champagne things. I hate any champagne wall. I want
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: it in a bucket, cold as shit, until you pour
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: it in my glass. Any other way, it's disgusting. But
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: it was such an expensive party. Did you see that party?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: It was everyone wore white.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't see it.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: So she had a 40th birthday party and it was like,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: It was like a wedding. It was 100 people. It
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: was seated. It was just this whole thing. And she's like, and,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: you know, but she, you know, they're like, hey, I'm
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: on a TV show. I'm going to show off. I'm
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: going to try. And in that one, kind of similar
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: to Dorit, Ashley Darby, who is married to the older Australian,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure she was his employee at one
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: point and he was married and whatever. And then, you know,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: she's hot and young and they get married. And then
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to do threesomes anymore. And then she
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: has two kids. And he said, well, we can mediate.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: But then you need to say the non-disparaging or the NDA.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: You can never talk about me. And she says, well,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sign that because that puts everybody
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: at jeopardy. Like how do I know? I'm living my life.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: How do I know that someone's not going to say
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: something on camera and then be sued by you? So
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: she's like, I'm not doing it. And– So I thought
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: that was interesting, but she kind of was like, yeah,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: now I've outgrown him. It's not what I want. And
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: he's like, you're not the girl. Yeah, I'm not the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: girl that was under your desk blowing you at 23.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 23 and wants to have threesomes all the time.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that thought you were like the hottest thing, which
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: is why, guys, if you're going for those young girls, PK,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to you. When you think that some girl
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: is acting like she's so into you and loves everything
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: about you, just know– that in 10 years, you're not
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: the same girl saying that they've, you know, are so
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: excited to crawl under your desk and blow you at
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: noon and then take your car to buy a new
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: pair of shoes. And that shoe only has to be $ 700.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: That girl changes, especially when she gets on Housewives.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: I was explaining this because I know this guy who
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: is technically like a sugar daddy and he's always like
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: been very interested in me. He's like rich, like boatloads.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: So we're talking gay sugar daddy world.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Yes. And like wanted to fly me on a private
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: jet to come spend the weekend with him. And I've
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: known him for so many years and he's such a
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: sweet guy. And you're like, I.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Can bring my straight sugar mama.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: Heather!
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: Hi!
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: I wish I.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: Didn't have so much pride and would actually take him
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: up on those offers. But so finally he, you know,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: was in LA and he's like, let me take you
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: to dinner.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Because you were not attracted to him in that way.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Not in that way. You know, he's like somebody that
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: I would come to, like he was my Tom Girardi.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: I would come to him for business advice or like
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: pick his brain about things. But like, I didn't want to,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Be his boyfriend. Yeah.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: Only to now find out he came to LA recently
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: and we went to dinner and cause I was like,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: you know what, let's, I'll let you take me to dinner. Like,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: let's go somewhere nice. And so we went to a
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: nice dinner and, And he was telling me about his
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: current boyfriend who's younger than me. Like I'm age, I've
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: aged out of the twenties where I can be a
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: cute little sugar baby in 20. Now I'm like, shit, I,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: now I have a couple of regrets, but so I
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: seen his boyfriend, his boyfriend's very cute, but they don't
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: have sex and the boyfriend. So they're just in a relationship.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: They're in a partnership together. And the boyfriend gets to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: be the arm candy, the Erica Jane, let's go and
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: walk the red carpets and do all the things. And like,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: you get to be pretty by my side. And then
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: he gets to like, you know, fool around and do
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: his other things. But the whole situation was very bizarre
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: because I was also thinking, I was like, well, shit,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: I could have had the house in the jet and
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't have to bang you. Like when, why did
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: I not get that disclosure?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Whenever I'd hear stories about like hookers that were like, well,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: I just go to dinner. And I was like, I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: could be a hooker if I just got to go
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: to dinner. I'm a great conversationalist.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Completely. I was like, wait, you should have given me
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: the terms and conditions up front. And then I would
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: have absolutely signed that contract, put me on the jet, everything.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: I would have la-la-kented the whole shit out of it.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Had a beautiful dinner and then high-fived and went to
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: your own room and got on her phone and watched TikTok. Yeah.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, so I'm out to dinner with you
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: and I'm probably expected to bang you after this. And
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: he gets to be in the house. I have to
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: be in the hotel room. He gets to be in
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: the house on the jet in Italy on vacation. I
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: was like, shit, I got the short end of that stick.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Well, when he told you that, what did you say?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: Did you say, well, what is your plan? Are you
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: going to get rid of him in a year? Or like,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: what is the plan that, you know, if you're not
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: getting affection from him?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: I told him up front, I was like, I don't
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: think this situation is good for you. I was like,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: now I care about you, Tom Girardi. Like, let me
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: give you some advice. Because he was also telling me
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: that he pays for everything. But then the boyfriend has
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: like a side nugget of money that he's building himself
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: that he's keeping aside that he won't use. And I'm like, well,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: that means he's going to leave you at some point
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: if he already has his cash stored aside.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: And he's using all of your money. Then like at
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: some point he's going to dip out and he's just like, well,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: if he finds somebody that's richer than me, that's willing
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: to take care of him more than me, then he
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: can leave me for it. And I was like, but
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: then what happens in 20 years when he does leave you?
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: You're not going to find another 22. Well, maybe you will.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: It's always going to be.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Especially in this town. In this town. Thank you so
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: much for coming. You're so great. We had so much fun.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: And tell everybody where they can get more of Zach. Yeah.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, all over the internet, Zach Peter, Just Plain Zach.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: No Filter with Zach Peter is my podcast. It's a
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: daily podcast. Talk Bravo, pop culture, all the news.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Well, it's great. And I'm glad that you are not
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: off on some jet because then you couldn't be here
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: with me today.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: Listen, that's how you'll know when I have a sugar
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: daddy is when I stop showing up to podcasts.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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