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Cyclones roll, 24 team playoff? Eliot Clough talks Hawkeyes · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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Tuesday the Iowa Sports Radio Network Trent Condon and Ken
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Our first guest here today will be who is our first guest today,
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Trent. It's Elliot Cliff who's standing
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by in Iowa City. He'll join us about 12:30.
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The Hawkeye football players have been meeting with the media
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and in advance of Kirk Ference. We'll get Elliot in here.
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Senior Day coming up. Take a look back perhaps at USC
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and what lies ahead. The two finales, Michigan State
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at home and then on the road against Nebraska.
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Elliott Clouffer only guest in hour number one, Dane Moussutani
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covers the Minnesota Vikings. He'll start hour number two.
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We'll talk to Dane for a while and then get back into some more
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NFL banter between the two of us.
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And Michael Swain, our final guest on the show.
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As you know or somebody may know, he was Alec Bussey prior
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to him. Michael Swain deciding to head
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back to Kansas where he graduated and now covers The
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Jayhawks. So we'll do a double dip, little
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basketball and obviously we'll look ahead to Kansas and Iowa
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State. That comes up at 1:30.
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Trent will make some picks. Circus sports sponsor those
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about 1:50 or so. We'll turn things over to off
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the bench with the boys coming up here at 2:00.
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I did not watch a minute of Stone Ridge, Bridge Hill,
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whoever the hell they were. It was Stone Hill.
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Stone Hill and Iowa State, I just couldn't bring myself to do
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it. What's crazy #39 1/2 the outcome
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39. It was right on.
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It was. Wrecked on that.
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Maybe my biggest take away from the game.
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Look, should I have watched it? Maybe I just can't get This was
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like junior varsity, right? You knew the outcome before the
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ball was thrown. In the air.
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So I watched quite a bit of the first half and then until about
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the under 16 of the second and then things started to get away
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very quickly. Stone pill hung around a little
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bit better than I certainly anticipated before the onslaught
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started in this one. You know, it's funny, yesterday
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when we were talking with Bill Sills and you brought up at
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Jefferson how he just kind of overlooked we.
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Take him for granted. Yeah, absolutely.
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And he was so good. I mean, the the stretches that I
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watched, he was just tremendous. This team, they're fun to watch.
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They are they're entertaining and more than anything you know
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with this squad it goes back to Lipsy a names kid stay home are
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not the rude fortune and the injuries that he's had the end
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of seasons the way that you know injuries are piled up for the
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team. Even if he's healthy and that
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he's not healthy, you just for a kid like that.
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Just get through your senior year.
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Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more.
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Have a healthy team, have a healthy.
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Because if this team is healthy, there's pieces.
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They're fun. Yeah, absolutely.
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And not talk about next, I mean, how good is next week going to
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be? Saint John's on Monday,
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Creighton on Tuesday, TRU TV's it's got them both the the
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Creighton game will be I think it's it's a 1:00 tip.
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I know it is because it's the middle of our show and then
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Saint John's is just when we pulled into the driveway a
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little bit after that. So going to be outstanding, But
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I, I love the fact look, you got to play these games.
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I'm happy for Stone Hill. They got their check, whatever
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that check may be. It's good for that athletic
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department, but you know, you are you.
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There was no, it's not like you waiting for 7:00 with in the pit
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of your stomach. Come on, I hope it goes our way.
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No, there was never that. So anyways, next week gets a
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whole lot better. And look at the four out of the
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next 5 to remove Alcorn State from it.
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But St. John's, Creighton, Purdue, Iowa.
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Hello. And you're going to have another
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big one in there after the Creighton game because they'll
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play the third game in Vegas. Yeah, to be determined.
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And there's eighteen teams in it and depends on do you know how
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that bracket, because it's not really a bracket.
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No, I don't. I I just saw the financial
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breakdowns. You worry about that stuff more
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than I do. I, I could, I just love it's
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like me, you and and the the equity firms that are putting
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money like you don't want to talk about that at all.
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Me and what people get paid. I just, I don't care.
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Well, I like the fact that it's going to the NIL and, and in an
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era where every school needs NIL, some more than others,
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obviously you know, that that's great for that's great for their
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bottom line that they can pay, you know, pay players to a key
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players or find way to bring new players in.
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But I do like that fact. And as we you know, as soon as
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this tournament was announced, I think very quickly we both saw
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the beginning of the end for the the Rainbow Classic over in
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Hawaii. Because that tournament, I just
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mean, if if they can't come up with money to pay teams to go
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over there and you've got an opportunity to go to Vegas, I
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get it to Hawaii. But when you got that much money
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on the line, this is going to be this is going to be the come the
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the dominant money every well pre season tournament.
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So. You have games that'll be
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happening and it depends. You can get to the championship
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game and go to and O Mm, hmm. But it's not just going to and O
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because there's gonna be likely a multitude of teams that are
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gonna go to Sure, sure. It's also point differential.
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Oh, so there's that aspect. Now where are they played?
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Are they all Thomas and Mack? Are they spread out all over the
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place with the final maybe at the T-Mobile?
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They gotta be spread out I would think.
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Yes, MGM Grand Garden Arena. That's where the PAC 12.
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Here it does, yeah. I'm looking a little bit deeper.
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Is that where the only it is? I think what I'm seeing here,
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maybe that is all that is that's it.
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They're just gonna play at one place, kind of scrolling through
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here trying to see if anything pops up.
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Yeah, it just has. Oh, and then it does have Mick
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Ultra Arena, so. Oh.
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That's where that that's where the aces play and that is at the
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Mandalay Bay. So couple of different locations
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for the. Grace, that's yeah, that's where
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the Aces play. So it's not just about winning
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the games. That's about making money.
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Well, it's about making money. But that aside, I'm talking
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about basketball. That's what I care about, not
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what people get paid. And you have to win, win
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convincingly if you're going to get to that championship or
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even. So there's no calling off the
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dogs is what you're saying? Well, and the crazy thing is all
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right, so we got you're. Leaning.
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Overs 18. It's not a bad theory. 18
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different teams here. I don't know, the structure is
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weird. I like brackets.
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I like to be able to kind of know and path things forward.
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And the way that it's going to be this, that's one of the
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bothersome things for me. And if you're going 18 money,
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you just go 24, right? And actually make it something
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that you can have A at least a bit more of a bracket part of
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it. Speaking of 24, but staying in
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the college genre but switching sports, did you see that?
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The Big 10 is proposing A-24 team College Football Playoff.
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Yeah, I mean, this has been out there for quite a while.
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Is there any chance, because you know what, Trent, I'm all for
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it. Bulls are going away.
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Not going away entirely, but certainly they're not what they
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used to be, as we know. I've been on this hill since
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2020 and I know that was a weird time, but I so loved what the
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Big 10 tried to do that final week of the season.
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I loved it, yeah. You have a Big 10 championship
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game and they called it what, Champions Week or something like
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that, and then they match you up with somebody.
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I was supposed to play Michigan. Michigan didn't show up.
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They quit and Jim Harbaugh would have been fired.
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If they would have played that football game.
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There's not a doubt in my mind they would have get bludgeoned
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by that Iowa team. Michigan was not very good at.
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All they were going to get bludgeoned by Ohio State.
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They're probably going to lose, you know, 55-7 to Ohio State and
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41 zero to Iowa. They had.
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Quit would not have won his natty.
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And he absolutely, it would have been gone.
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We forget there were a lot of vultures circling around the
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Michigan program. We took cut and pay.
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And then we saw what happened and it worked out incredibly
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well for them. But the idea of doing that I for
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Iowa, it makes a ton of sense. How many times is Iowa going to
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play for a Big 10 championship in today's era?
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Once every. 12 schools that have joined the league.
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Once every dozen years, 15 years?
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I mean, is that a realistic goal when you're looking in totality
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of the program to finish in the top 2 of this league with 9
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conference games, a West Coast road trip seemingly every single
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year, What is the likelihood that I was going to get there?
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You're going to catch lightning in a bottle.
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Maybe if the program sustains, but that's it.
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Well, now let's, let's throw this in the equation.
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Speaking of money and, and, and hedge firms, if, if the Big 10
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sells off some of their property, it sounds like there's
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a couple of schools that you know what, we're just going to
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be independent after the after the grant of rights is over in
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2036, Michigan, USC at the top of that list.
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So maybe it gets a little bit easier.
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I I don't think that's going to. Happen well, I don't either, but
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I I hope that what's what's the rush to sell off?
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I don't get that. Either I don't get it.
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You have much money coming in schools as you ever have, right?
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And yet now a big reason and the reason that Ohio State is also
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for this is what they did in terms of facilities.
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And when you're behind in terms of facilities and when you have
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to pay off those bonds and, and everything that goes along with
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it, that is where you're looking for that influx of money.
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Because with the changing paradigm of college athletics
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now, it's not about having the facilities, it's about paying
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the players. And the, and the, the money
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threshold and I'm, I'm going, I don't have this in front of me.
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There was, there's three tiers. There would be Michigan, Ohio
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State, Penn State. They would get X, then Oregon
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and USC get Y and everybody else gets Z, including Rutgers.
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Yeah, Rutgers. Rutgers is not on the same plane
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as Iowa and Wisconsin, right? And Michigan State?
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Absolutely. And yet that the way it's set up
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right now, that's where that's what they would be, you know,
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sharing it. So I don't know where it's going
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to go. Math makes my head hurt.
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Other than the fact that, you know, I like the fact the NIL
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tournament is being played next week.
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I want to talk a bit about Lane Kim because I really like Lane
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Kiffin. Do you?
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Yes, I do like Lane. Lane likes lane, too.
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Yes, he does, and I think we've seen a kinder, gentler, maybe a
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more mature grown up. Well, it's hard.
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Not to go lower than what he well, that's true.
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I'm not, I'm not arguing that point.
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But I hate what he's doing right now.
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This feels like Lane Kiffin of old.
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What are you doing running around on Ole Miss?
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They're having a historic season, a season that they
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haven't had since the early 1960s.
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That's over 60 years. And you're running around not to
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just one school. You're taking a flight and
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you're taking the family to, to Florida.
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Then next time you get a chance, you're jumping on a plane,
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you're going to Baton Rouge and bringing everybody.
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Meanwhile, the team that you have on a path, no, not on a
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path, they're going to make the playoff.
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This team is in limbo and you're leaving them to wonder what if
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you're, you're, you're forcing Ole Miss.
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And again, Ole Miss doesn't move the needle here.
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You're making them make an unbelievably uncomfortable
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decision because you want him to.
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You don't want to get off the pot.
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But if you're cutting your nose to spite your face by doing that
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because of these kind of players going to play for coach, interim
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coach, like they're going to play for Lane Kiffin, I'm not so
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sure this is the last thing they need.
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It's the last thing they need. Absolutely.
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A leopard doesn't change its spots.
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This is Lane Kiffin. Well, I'm starting to see that I
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might have had, you know, back the wrong horse.
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He's still Lane. In this respect.
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He is. He's still incredibly selfish.
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He cares about himself and he got his ex-wife to move back.
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Yeah. I did.
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And bring the family along. It's always about lane and it's
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always been about Lane. But I do like the fact that he's
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got a relationship with his kids now.
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That's good, yes. Took a while but at least he got
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there. He is that person and he loves
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having people. He's funny.
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I get a kick out of him. But as a person, when I trust
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him? Absolutely not.
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I mean this is what? Why would you want to hire this
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guy knowing that that this is who he is?
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Well, he said it right. When you open up the
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conversation, he's taken old Miss to a place that it hasn't
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been since the 1960s. There's your answer.
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Yeah. He's not an old Miss, a place
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that has never been to an SEC Championship game.
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Mississippi State has. Yeah, it's wild, isn't it, Ole
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Miss? Hasn't.
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Yeah, Isn't that wild? As beautiful as it is, it's not
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a football powerhouse by any means.
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And he has built them into a program that was a went away a
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year from ago from being in the playoff and on the cusp of
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making the playoff. The Ole Miss perspective,
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though, I don't get. You want respect.
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You got a team that's going to do something you've never seen
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College Football Playoff. You have a team that has a
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chance to win a game, Give. Me a couple I think.
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In the college football player you're sitting there.
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I understand future figure it out when it gets there.
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Enjoy the run. Enjoy this.
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I understand it hurts to get. The leave, yeah, because, but if
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you, if you, I mean, selfishly for him, if he does wait, I
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mean, he knows that the next year is basically going to be
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lost because the portal's going to be all picked over by the
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time you get to it at that point.
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But he's not signing a one year contract.
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No, that's true. But you know, yeah, that's true.
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But knowing it's it's going to there's going to be some pain
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that comes along with just stay, for crying out loud, NFL from
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last night. I I guess I'm one of those guys
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that slows down for car wrecks. That was awful trend.
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What has happened to this Raiders team?
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What and what and what in the world is is young Davis?
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What's his name? Mark Davis?
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Why would you hire a 70 whatever he is?
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What coach? He's not going to be there for
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very long. You're just coming off a
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disaster in your previous hire. You can't get the right guy.
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You've got an aged quarterback. This this franchise with two
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legitimate superstars, 2 of them and and and Bowers and obviously
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Crosby. They are awful.
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This team is terrible. What's happened is they're the
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Raiders. This is a surprise.
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This organization stinks. I'm.
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Glad that they stink. For decade after decade after
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decade. This is a poorly run
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organization that has been for an incredibly long time.
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It shouldn't come as a surprise. It's the Raiders.
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They screw things up. I understood the Carroll
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decision. I didn't like it.
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We said as much at the time. I didn't like it, but I
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understood it. You're trying to get an adult in
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the room. You're trying to get somebody
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that you believe is going to bring some level of
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professionalism to your inept organization.
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A 70 year old guy is not the guy to do.
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That no and he's going to be 1 and done again I would think.
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Who knows? They're just going to Why would
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he come back? Why would you?
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You know, if you don't have many of the years left, why would you
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put yourself through? That well, he still likes
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coaching football. I guess find some other team to
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coach that actually is kind of pulse.
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Probably not going to pay him what they're going.
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To be millions, can he? Does he need well?
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Who is going to hire P Carol either?
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That's just it. And that just goes to show you
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that the, I guess the Raiders was the answer to that.
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So when it comes to the Cowboys, though, on the other side of the
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field, there's the Dallas Cowboys.
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And I don't know how to take it because they were playing the
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Raiders, but is this Cowboys team got a chance to give the
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Chiefs a game on on Thanksgiving?
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On Thanksgiving at home, Sure. I think they do too.
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They could also lose 4113. I'm not sure they will because
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that Prescott is a really good quarterback.
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This is a team that just lost at home by the to Cardinals by 10.
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That's true their previous time out.
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Yeah, and Cardinals are not good.
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You saw them get run off the field, No by the year down for
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Broncos. They got Hooker back, they got
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the kid from Cincinnati at the trade deadline, Wilson and
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obviously Quentin Williams. That's three starters that they
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just added to their defense and defense was the problem with
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this for this football team. So with those that with that
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injection of three decent players, go along with Kenneth
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Murray and a couple of those other guys, I'm not saying
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Dallas make the playoffs. They're not.
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No. I just want to be good because I
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think they've got a ton of prime time games left.
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Don't. They no, no, let's be honest.
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Why do you want them to be good? You said it right there at the
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front. Well, the very first part, yeah,
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I want to be chief. That's what it is.
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That's where it comes from. Sure, it all comes full circle
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again, back to the Chiefs and your disdain for that
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organization of that team. That's what it's about.
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You want them. I want Thanksgiving to be good
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because of my favorite day of the year and I love cooking and
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watching football and everything and I think the game is going to
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be good. I have to wait and see that
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because the Raiders are so bad. That's yeah.
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You don't know what to make of it.
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Right. I'm not going to overreact to
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beating the Raiders, so I was on pins and needles until the final
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whistle. Why?
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What did you have? So I told you the last couple of
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years I've been in this guillotine league.
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Yeah. For fantasy football, right?
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If you don't know, it's a fantasy Football League.
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It's phenomenal. It's so fun.
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This is I think my 6th year of doing it.
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First year I was in, I actually won it. 19 teams are in.
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You play all 18 weeks. Every week the lowest score gets
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kicked out and had a rough week. Josh Jacobs, injured, Lamar
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Jackson, awful bad go. I'm coming down to the end, but
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I have Javonte Williams and looking at the score update and
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looking at it and looking at it and all he needs.
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Just to run the football, run the clock out one yard.
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Oh, no. Oh.
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No one yard, Oh no. And when they get the football
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back and I see them in victory formation on the plus side of
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the two-minute warning they were.
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You're right, I am freaking 1 yard.
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I lose and I get kicked out of the league by 0.02 points.
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Not .2 points, .02 points 1 yard.
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To turn around and hand the ball off to him and get to the 2
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minute warning that way. To throw to CD Lamb on the 4th
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down plate where it looks like he was going to be out at the
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one. I'm like, oh perfect, that would
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have been enough. Just hand it to Williams here.
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We no, no, Nope. And we're out, just like that.
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And he coughed it up. But that league's also great.
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I won it the first year. Second year I was out in week
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one. Yeah.
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And then you just, you're done. It's as simple as that.
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It's a great concept. And now more and more like Yahoo
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now has it. Do they?
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Yes. Yeah.
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Did this guy patent it? Well, Matthew Berry, I think is
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the one. Yeah, the talented Mr. Rodo, I
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think. Well, he's.
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That's the guy on ESPN or no one on.
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NBC now, yeah. Yeah, Used to be ESPN for a long
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time, but that's why all the way to the end, watching that stupid
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football game of the blowout. Yeah, I watched all because of
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that. And as well, I want to spend a
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minute on a guy, but we probably should have brought him up
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yesterday. But I I didn't see a play of it.
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And it's and it's hard to, you know, we don't see it.
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You kind of just going off highlights and I get you got to
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do that sometime. But I watched every minute of
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the Chiefs and the Broncos. I did not see any of the San
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Francisco game, but I saw Brock Purdy's numbers and he didn't
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why? I mean, only 200 yards, but
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three touchdowns, no picks, 200 yards.
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But he's so damn accurate, and there's a reason that Shanahan
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never blinked when he was asked about Mac Jones.
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Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy's a hell of a
19:04
quarterback. He's really accurate, and he was
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on display. And him and Kittle got
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something, don't they? They really do.
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They've got some chemistry there between those two and it's it's
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good to see, but good to see Brock Birdie back on the field.
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And where are the Niners? They're getting healthy
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offensively. Just one wondering, Fred
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Warner's not coming back. No, but it's seven and four
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weapons getting. Healthier.
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That's a division with three playoff teams, I think is Oh
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yeah. Yeah.
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For sure the. 49ers do not have an overly daunting schedule
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either in comparison to some of the other teams.
19:38
They had the Panthers and Browns the next few weeks.
19:40
Oh boy, they have a late bye. Then they get the Titans.
19:42
They haven't had their bye yet. Yeah, they'll have a Week 14
19:45
bye, then the Titans after that. Jesus.
19:47
They get the Colts on the road, That's tough.
19:49
Yep, home for the Bears. OK, Bears, the game looked a
19:52
little tougher now. And then they wrap up at home
19:55
against the Seahawks. They're at minimum going to be
19:57
10 and seven. I think this team might even be
19:59
11 and 6. That could be San Fran.
20:04
Yeah. Seahawks.
20:04
Yeah, Could be our flex game in Week 18.
20:07
Anthony, thanks for being patient.
20:09
Anthony, how are you? Welcome to the program.
20:12
I'm pretty good, guys. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
20:14
Thank you. Guys, I want to talk more talk a
20:18
little bit more about the the hot guys and everything what
20:21
what's going on with them last last several games, especially
20:26
versus ranked teams from Iowa State to Southern California.
20:33
Have we missed opportunities to beat these teams in the closing
20:37
quarters of the game? I said yes.
20:40
And what do you guys think what they need to do with Mark
20:44
Anowski? Can they can you set him down
20:48
for a little bit or put the other two guys in to finish off
20:51
the season? And another question I have for
20:54
you. So what's the future for Iowa
20:57
football as you're looking forward as a next season?
21:01
The guys all head up. What's up?
21:02
Good go, Hawks. Thank you, Hank.
21:05
They appreciate the call. They're not going to move from.
21:08
Maybe in the bowl game. Get a couple of snaps, couple of
21:11
series, something like that. Still think it's going to be
21:13
Gronowski's game even when they get to that point, unless
21:16
there's a bigger injury. We know he's got the knee
21:19
injury. Maybe he decides, you know what,
21:21
I actually need to have go under the knife.
21:23
Well, at the bare minimum, those quote 15 practices.
21:26
Kolinsky gets a ton of a ton of running nose, right?
21:29
Because I want Hecklinski to be the guy.
21:31
I do too. He can move around and we see
21:34
what a mobile quarterback can do in this offense with Tim Lester.
21:37
They need that guy that can move.
21:39
And because of that, absolutely Hacklinski, at least, at least
21:42
for me, big advantage over Hank Brown.
21:44
Do they go shopping in in the NAL store for a quarterback this
21:49
year? No, I don't think they do either
21:50
for the first time. I think they're going to have to
21:52
augment the roster like they did a couple years ago.
21:54
Yeah, they brought him McNamara, but remember they brought in
21:56
what, 11 guys that year out of the portal.
21:59
I think that's what it's going to have to be.
22:01
I mean, you look at the number of seniors that are on this
22:03
team, there's going to be plenty of spots.
22:05
Offensive line next year, I think at minimum is going to be
22:07
decent. Trevor Lock, that dudes a stunt.
22:10
That was how many segments did we talk about Trevor Lock during
22:14
the offseason? You feel good about the other
22:16
four positions. That dude has played incredibly
22:18
well this year. You got your left tackle peeper
22:21
good. Sal.
22:22
We've had to see a lot of Leighton Jones because of the
22:24
injuries throughout the year for both.
22:25
Stevens, you're feeling good at that point.
22:28
Then you got Jack Dozler at minimum adequate right up, right
22:31
tackle and then your other guard, you figure it out.
22:34
Maybe it's Miss Linski, maybe it's a younger guy, but I think
22:36
the offensive line is going to be OK.
22:37
Running backroom should be OK Kolinsky, your quarterback.
22:41
Keep going. But then you go to the defense.
22:43
Well, you didn't have the receivers.
22:45
Well, they stink. Right.
22:45
But that just should that be where you're spending?
22:47
Money. Well, I mean, what do they get?
22:49
They get Sam Phillips. He's 5 foot 4.
22:51
Well, you don't have to pay for a quarterback, so your money
22:54
goes a little bit a little bit further not having to pay for.
22:58
That you're a little more optimistic than I am right on
23:00
that front. I don't think they're going to
23:02
get even a upper tier wide receiver out of the portal.
23:06
It'll be another FCS guy, another guy you're hopeful for,
23:10
but nothing that is going to Oh yeah, this is a slam dunk.
23:12
This is going to absolutely work.
23:14
Defensively, though, you lose both defense events, you lose
23:17
Aaron Graves. I thought they did a good job of
23:19
getting both Pace and Hawthorne. That's the spot.
23:22
Do you need to look at linebacker and Carson Shire?
23:26
He's been OK, Yeah. Montgomery's been OK.
23:28
Yeah. But they haven't been Nick
23:29
Jackson. No, we got out of the portal.
23:30
No, he was an absolute stunt. No.
23:32
Not by a long shot. Safety position.
23:34
Lumber's gonna be back, but is he gonna turn into a corner like
23:38
Gupta Jean did? Is he going to be cash guy?
23:39
What are you gonna do there? I think I just.
23:41
Want him on the field trend? He's a player.
23:43
Defensive backfield, linebacker and probably they need a rush
23:47
in, they need that speed guy and that was guys cost a ton.
23:50
Those guys cost cost as much quarterbacks as a quarterback.
23:54
I mean, it's just kind of the same conversation with the NFL.
23:56
That's where I'm looking. If you're going to go out and
23:58
spend big and bring in that ace, five star top tier guy, don't
24:02
look at quarterback. Look at a rush end because
24:06
Herket and Llewellyn both nice players.
24:08
Brian Allen next year, Kenneth Meriwether, I think they could
24:10
be nice players, but they're not difference makers.
24:12
And we see again, Iowa can't get to the quarterback against USC.
24:16
What happens? This team has not got to the
24:18
quarterback without blitzing this year.
24:20
Again, this is something that has continually happened here
24:22
the last couple years under Phil Parker.
24:24
Because of that, that would be the top of the wish list for me
24:27
is fighting that edge rush guy. Well, like we say, they don't
24:32
have to pay for a quarterback, so you're going to have a little
24:34
bit more money in your bank account when you get to that
24:36
point. Fascinating stuff.
24:38
All right, 12/25 before we go to break, we would like to invite
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you if there's anyone out there, and I know there's a lot of
24:46
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26:00
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Sports Radio Network. All right, welcome back Miller
26:15
and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network with you until
26:18
2:00. Let's head to Iowa City.
26:20
Elliott, Clef, hawkeyeinsider.com,
26:22
hawkeyeinsider.com. He joins us part of 24/7 Sports.
26:27
Hello, Elliott, How are you? I'm good.
26:30
How are you, Ken? Doing OK, doing OK.
26:32
How's the team doing? Do you you're around there every
26:35
Tuesday when you guys have an opportunity following, you know,
26:38
the the Saturday game. Do you notice a difference?
26:42
They've lost two straight. Obviously, knowing that
26:45
ultimately the College Football Playoff, that goal has now been
26:48
taken off the table. Any difference in the football
26:51
team that you've noticed? Well, not that I, you know,
26:55
could necessarily get a sense of by anything they said or
26:59
anything like that. Of course, the message is always
27:01
going to be that they're focused on the task ahead and beating
27:05
Michigan State over the weekend. It is a different feel.
27:08
I, you know, it's one of those ethereal things that you can't
27:12
really maybe put into words or can't really, you know, touch
27:16
the, you know, smell, taste, whatever.
27:18
But it does. It is a different feel at these
27:21
pressers now when things don't necessarily maybe matter as much
27:25
as they did in terms of those big goals.
27:27
But yeah, I mean, the messaging is going to remain the same.
27:30
I mean, we talked to Mark Gronowski today and he said, you
27:33
know, I want to finish this career off right and do it for
27:36
for guys like Logan Jones and Jennings Dunker who have been
27:39
here for several years. So yeah, you know, it, it might
27:43
be a little bit different, but you know, you'll never hear
27:45
anything different from from Iowa players or, or anybody from
27:50
the staff. Not a ton of news, at least from
27:52
the different quotes that I've seen up until this point.
27:55
I guess the biggest 1, Leighton Jones was there who came in and
27:58
has come in a few different times this year for Bo Stevens.
28:01
Leyton Jones mentioned that he has been working with the ones
28:04
at this point. I think they hope that they'll
28:05
get Stevens back, but it's kind of wait and see and you guys
28:08
will hear a little bit more from Kirk, I'm sure on that front.
28:10
But Leyton Jones, a little bit of thought on him.
28:13
He's going to be certainly an anticipated starter for next
28:16
season. And what you've seen out of the
28:18
other guy from Indianapolis. We've talked a ton about Trevor
28:20
Loudt, but Leyton Jones had a nice year as a backup this year.
28:24
Yeah. You know, one thing that I
28:26
remember, I think it was from the spring actually, is that Bo
28:30
Stevens brought up low late. I'm not sure if it was
28:33
unprompted, but he did bring him up in the spring, one of the
28:36
during one of those availability windows that might have been the
28:38
summer. Actually.
28:39
I'm not I'm not positive, but he said, you know, if I wasn't
28:42
back, if I wasn't here, Leighton Jones would have started this
28:44
entire season And and that's probably true.
28:48
I mean he's a kid that has played some some solid snaps
28:52
over his time. He's not both Stevens like
28:54
that's that's clear. He's back up for a reason.
28:56
Bo is is there because he's more experienced.
28:58
I think Bo might be I need to look at the roster, but I think
29:01
Bo might be way a little bit more.
29:03
But but Jones is a guy that was a Barnett recruit was a Barnett
29:07
guy. So as, as George has started to
29:10
sort of cultivate this offensive line into the picture that he,
29:14
you know, wanted to the the creator or to paint when he
29:18
first arrived here, Jones is one of those cornerstone guys that
29:22
he brought in those initial classes that that has been here
29:26
and, and will be expected to be here through the finish of his,
29:30
his college career. And, you know, I, I think the
29:34
endorsement by Stevens wasn't, you know, just a passing thing
29:38
for him to say. I think he meant that.
29:41
And, and Jones, I think, you know, he's been serviceable,
29:44
right? He hasn't looked like he's going
29:45
to be all Big 10 or anything like that by the end of the
29:47
season, but definitely has has some places to grow, has some
29:51
room to grow and and could be something like that in a couple
29:54
of years to come. I know this is part of the VIP
29:57
over there, but maybe you can share what you can with us.
29:59
Miss Kaden Wegen and and his future.
30:01
What did he have to say today? Yeah.
30:04
So he shared today that it, it last year it was it was still
30:10
kind of up in the air about his eligibility.
30:11
He said he heard that he might have another year.
30:15
He heard that he doesn't have any left.
30:17
But by what he said today, it it sounds like he's moving on.
30:20
OK. He's been with the program for
30:22
quite a while, and it sounds like like Saturday will be his
30:27
his last game in Kinnock Stadium as a Hawkeye.
30:29
But yeah, I tell you what, bringing a 30 year old around
30:33
for another year of eligibility would be pretty impressive.
30:36
That'd be one of the biggest wins of the Kirk Ference era.
30:39
Diego Pavia, like right, get him for another season and make that
30:42
happen. Speaking of that, we look at
30:45
Senior Day. Quarterbacks usually get the
30:47
biggest ovation. Gronowski, though, just a one
30:49
year guy. I'm sure there's going to be a
30:51
big pop even with some of the frustrations that are there in
30:53
portions of the fan base. Outside of the quarterback
30:56
though, what scener do you believe is going to get the
30:58
loudest ovation? Who's going to be the guy that
31:00
gets that big serenation when his name is called?
31:02
He runs out to his family. Oh, man, that's a good question.
31:07
I would probably say Logan Jones because he's been through.
31:11
I mean, he was there right when the offensive line really was
31:14
struggling and he was part of the anchor that I mean, you
31:18
could say he was the anchor that that was pulled up from the
31:21
depth. So to speaker the the the anchor
31:24
of the offensive line and that he was solid the last three
31:28
years and really showed off some athleticism.
31:30
Really earned the respect of that room.
31:32
Really was a leader despite like, all the turnover at
31:35
quarterbacks to like, I don't know how many quarterbacks he's
31:38
been through. Because you go Petris, you go
31:41
Kate McNamara, Deacon Hill. Excuse me, Deacon Hill.
31:44
Brennan Sullivan, Jackson Stratton, Mark Granowski, Hank
31:47
Brown. I don't know if he played any
31:51
with Heklinski at all this year, but Heklinski got to see the
31:54
field a little bit. I think that was with Miss
31:55
Linski. But yeah.
31:57
Oh, Alex Padilla, can't forget about Padilla.
32:00
Can't about the Labus either. So Logan has been through it
32:04
all, as he would say, a lot of hands up under him.
32:08
But you know, to me, I think he's one that deserves a big
32:12
pop. I think TJ Hall does because he
32:15
was ripped apart for the little bit that he plays against
32:19
Nebraska and then just really reached an elite level this
32:23
season. Like he's all big fan in my
32:24
opinion. Xavier Wamp was another one that
32:28
has, you know, kind of gone through the fire a little bit
32:30
and really played at a high level this season.
32:33
Excuse me? Jennings dunker could very well
32:35
be a first round draft pick, so he's going to get some love.
32:38
And he might get some love just because of his big flowing red
32:41
hair personality. That was that was my thought.
32:44
Yeah, I thought he's got personality.
32:46
He's goofy. People know him because of the
32:48
big flowing red hair. I think it's going to be him or
32:50
weechen. Those would be my 2 votes.
32:52
And people love Kaden Weechen. Yeah, we don't definitely get a
32:55
pop. I guess I was.
32:57
Yeah, I was thinking more so about the guys on, on, you know,
33:01
the the front lines of the offense.
33:03
But yeah, he definitely should. I mean, he's he's reached the
33:06
echelon of of one of the greatest to do it as, as a
33:09
returner at Iowa. I mean, he's he's up there with
33:11
the gene. He's up there.
33:12
I agree for sure. Yeah, I'm with you.
33:15
Mark Gronowski has caused defensive assistant coaches to
33:20
start looking up the bars in Iowa City at both Michigan State
33:24
and the that's a phenomenal story that they named the trick
33:27
plays after bars in Iowa City. Now some poor gratis in Michigan
33:32
State and at Nebraska. It's going to be on Google Maps
33:35
trying to figure that out next time he hears one of them.
33:37
That's that's fascinating that he that he shared that nugget
33:40
with you. Yeah, yeah, that was that was
33:43
kind of fun for him to share that.
33:45
He also shared that some of their sneak plays are named
33:48
after shoe brand. Talking about the push push, he
33:52
said they call that one Adidas. And my first question was at a
33:55
Nike school. So they they they kind of have
33:58
some fun with it. You know, knowing Tim Lester or
34:01
getting to know Tim Lester a little bit after the last couple
34:03
years, it doesn't really surprise me that he kind of
34:05
comes up with that stuff. It's unique, it's easily
34:08
remembered right and and have a little bit of fun out there
34:11
while while you're playing football.
34:13
So talking to the guys at senior day, that's always a thing mood
34:17
though 2 incredibly difficult losses, a lot of woulda, shoulda
34:20
coulda. The great thing about Iowa
34:22
football and Kirk Ference, they don't get too high, they don't
34:24
get too low. How did it feel today?
34:26
How did the guys, how did they react in knowing that any even
34:30
that slim margin that was out there that we talked about last
34:32
week about possibility of nine and three getting the playoff.
34:34
Well, now that's completely gone.
34:36
What was the mood of the players?
34:38
Yeah, it, it's pretty steady Eddie.
34:40
You know, I, I, I, I think the, the thing that I said at the
34:43
beginning was just that, you know, you're not going to hear
34:46
anything about, oh, the season's over, You're just not going to
34:49
hear that kind of stuff with the type of players that Kirk Farron
34:52
brings to Iowa City. So there's there's that, but
34:55
there's also there was a feel of, you know, the guys that we
35:01
talked to as well are, are generally upperclassmen and you
35:04
get the read that they really do stick to that 24 hour rule no
35:07
matter what. Yet they they wanted more out of
35:11
this season. They were hoping for more.
35:12
They very well could have gotten more at 5 or 6 plays go a little
35:16
differently. But you know, I asked Ouijian if
35:19
he thought he was in on on Saturday on that catch.
35:22
And, you know, he kind of shared a laugh and said, yeah, I fell
35:24
in a swamp too after the after the catch.
35:27
So I guess the non catch. So able to laugh it off.
35:31
But still, you know, sharing that, you know, they would they
35:34
would love to be where some of those goals are, but it's it's
35:38
just not attainable. What they're going to try to do
35:40
is is finish out the season and the stuff that you get from
35:42
those guys that they really do mean that it it it does like
35:46
just flatly, it sucks that they won't be able to find a spot in
35:50
the the College Football Playoff.
35:52
Those those hopes aren't there anymore.
35:54
But but they're going to try to finish out the season.
35:56
And that's just the culture that that Kirk Ference is established
35:58
here. So, so along those lines, and I
36:00
know it's a couple of weeks too early before this question will
36:02
be answered definitively, if it is at all.
36:05
Trent and I were speculating earlier.
36:06
I mean, just when when they do get to a bowl game and they
36:09
will, how does Ference handle the quarterback position knowing
36:12
that Kronosky is moving on, knowing that Klinsky is probably
36:16
the leader in the clubhouse to be that guy next year.
36:19
Obviously, the 15 practices, the Kulinski will get a ton of of
36:23
running those one would assume with the ones.
36:26
But when the bowl game itself too early for sure.
36:30
But how do you think that Ference and Lester handle the
36:34
quarterback when the bull sees when the bowl game gets here?
36:38
Yeah, I, I mean, unless, you know, an injury happens or they
36:42
get blown out or I will blow somebody out.
36:43
I think Mark Ronowski plays every snap.
36:46
That's that's just so. I mean, that's the way Mark was
36:48
talking about it today. He said, yeah, we have two more
36:50
games at a bowl game. To me that that makes it sound
36:53
like he's going to finish it out.
36:54
And you know, well, he's obviously not going to be, you
36:57
know, a top three, top five, top six round pick in the NFL draft
37:02
coming up here. So and, and mark doesn't strike
37:05
me as a guy that would opt out of a game, especially knowing
37:08
that he's probably not going to get drafted.
37:11
You know, and and you know, we talked about Hecklinski a little
37:14
bit, but don't count out Hank Brown at this point, man, those
37:17
those 15 practices that they get leading up to the bowls.
37:21
I I everything that Kirk has said is that it's going to be a
37:24
legitimate competition. And, you know, I mean, I've
37:28
heard, you know, talk of, and this isn't from anybody behind
37:32
the scenes or anything, but people speculating that Hank
37:35
Brown will be gone. It's like, well, the window
37:38
isn't till January. So there's going to be a
37:40
legitimate competition. And whoever wins it, whoever
37:43
doesn't win it might stick around.
37:45
They might not. Well, we'll find out.
37:46
But it is going to be a legitimate competition between
37:49
Hecklinsky and Brown. I'm not ruling out Hank Brown
37:52
yet. Elliott Clough, 24/7 Sports,
37:55
hawkeyeinsider.com Elliott, as always, thank you brother.
37:58
We'll run you down next Tuesday if your schedule allows.
38:01
Thanks for doing this. Yep, good to talk to you, Elliot
38:05
Cleff as we check in on the Hawks.
38:07
Real quick on this, Campbell's speaking to the media.
38:09
Gabe Burkle out for the year surgery tomorrow.
38:12
Jameson patent questionable it best to Sean James out for the
38:15
foreseeable future. Caleb Bacon back this weekend.
38:18
That's the latest from Iowa State.
38:20
But Gabe Burkle, as we thought, done for the year.
38:23
Miller and Condon back to wrap up our number one, it's the Iowa
38:25
Sports Radio Network. Hi, Miller Condon, welcome back.
38:36
Final couple of minutes of the first hour of the program.
38:38
Dane Moussutani on the Vikings to kick off hour number two.
38:43
Michael Swain covers Kansas for what's the name of their sites
38:49
on three media? I'm not sure which one it is for
38:51
The Jayhawks on three site, but we'll talk to him about Kansas
38:54
and Iowa State. We'll do some basketball as
38:56
well, you know, real quick. So we only have a couple of
38:58
minutes left. Trent, do you fault the sports
39:01
book operator or the person who made this two team, this two leg
39:06
parlay more? So let me explain this.
39:09
This is wild. This is absolutely bananas.
39:13
This person don't know if it's male or female.
39:15
Put a 15 or $15. Two teamer together.
39:19
Took North Carolina State -9 1/2 in leg number one.
39:25
Leg number 2 was the largest lead in the game.
39:30
Being 7. It's impossible to win it.
39:33
Is impossible to win? Yes.
39:36
Because if you win your first leg, you've covered 9 1/2,
39:40
therefore the second leg of your ticket.
39:43
I mean it was a loser from the time he hit submit.
39:47
So who do you fault? And should there be a test that
39:49
you have to pass before you can actually deposit money in an
39:52
account? No, absolutely not.
39:54
You want to wager, go right ahead.
39:58
I'm about self choice and. This is the most This is the
40:01
craziest thing I've ever. Heard the the crazy thing to me
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is it's impossible for it to happen it's.
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Impossible. How did the algorithm or the
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back end of that company, we're not going to name the company.
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It's not circa How? How did you?
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How were they able to bet in the first place?
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Because a lot of you'll get the, these wagers cannot be combined.
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Errors. Some kind of error message?
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And I guess that's just wasn't in there because nobody would
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think. Yeah, they're going to cover 9
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1/2, but they won't lead by 7. More than 7.
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More than 7, right? It's unthinkable.
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At any point in the game, by the way, right.
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Yeah, Not just one time. They're up 7 I.
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Can't get mad at the operator. There's plenty of those things
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that you see and people getting limited and and all the gross
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things that we hear in the gambling space.
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I don't think this is one of them though that just point at
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the sports book and say bad work out of you.
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I mean, I'm not wanting to talk, but if I can't win.
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Don't put it in. You can't mean nothing.
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I mean, I do it every day, but still.
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Right. I mean, sure, I bet, dude, I bet
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this weekend that we've had No, I bet that.
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Chargers. You bet the Chargers every year
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to win a Super Bowl. Yeah, maybe.
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Anyways, I just thought that was wild.
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