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Two For the Road (1967) · Scenes From The Screen

• 0:03
  Sean: Welcome once again to Scenes from the Screen, where we talk about all types of films: obscure, forgotten, prestigious, rotten...
• 0:08
  Sean: big screen and small, we cover it all.
• 0:10
  Sean: Who knows, you might discover a new gem or be reintroduced to an old favorite.
• 0:14
  Sean: My name is Sean, and I'll be your host.
• 0:16
  Sean: Well, as promised when we were last together, we are back with another movie, Hollie and I.
• 0:20
  Sean: Hello, Hollie.
• 0:21
  Hollie: Hello, everyone.
• 0:22
  Sean: We're back with the 1967 film Two for the Road, starring Albert Finney and Audrey Hepburn as a longtime married couple.
• 0:31
  Sean: They look like they're wealthy and they look like they are completely miserable.
• 0:35
  Sean: But basically, what the film does is it kind of shows us their relationship from the very beginning to current time, but it bounces around in time a lot.
• 0:43
  Sean: Wouldn't you say that was the basic premise of the film?
• 0:46
  Hollie: Yes.
• 0:46
  Sean: Okay.
• 0:47
  Sean: Yeah, and obviously they're unhappy in their marriage.
• 0:50
  Sean: It starts off, like I said, they are wealthy and they're on their way somewhere, but they're always traveling.
• 0:56
  Sean: That's the thing.
• 0:57
  Sean: That's where the title comes from, Two for the Road.
• 0:59
  Sean: It goes all the way back to their vacation.
• 1:02
  Sean: So it goes to their the first time they met, which is she was singing with a bus full of girls.
• 1:08
  Sean: They all came down with chicken pox.
• 1:10
  Sean: And he almost ends up with Jacqueline Bisset, who's in the movie as well.
• 1:14
  Hollie: Right.
• 1:15
  Hollie: And she's extremely beautiful in it.
• 1:16
  Sean: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:17
  Sean: Well, so is Audrey Hepburn, but I mean that's that's a real tough choice to make.
• 1:20
  Sean: Lucky guy Albert Finney.
• 1:22
  Sean: So they all get chicken pox, and he ends up on the road with her because they leave the bus for the rest of them.
• 1:28
  Sean: So he now Finney and Audrey Hepburn hitchhike across Europe.
• 1:32
  Sean: And then again, they go back and forth, bouncing through and it grounds you as to what uh what when in their marriage it is, so you can kind of tell at certain points.
• 1:45
  Hollie: Yeah, I did like that it you knew where they were in their marriage by the topics that they were talking about.
• 1:51
  Sean: Right, right.
• 1:52
  Sean: Yeah, like I said, it there was actually one funny thing because I saw this in college.
• 1:57
  Sean: We saw it in a film class, and I really I enjoyed it.
• 2:00
  Sean: I did, and I was always kind of stuck with me.
• 2:02
  Sean: And but there I remember that we were sitting in film class, and the editing is fantastic because they'll be driving down the highway in one time period, and when they pass someone on the road, it happens to be, it will show them in a different time period.
• 2:19
  Sean: So it's...
• 2:20
  Hollie: The transitions were very cool.
• 2:20
  Sean: ...them on the road were...
• 2:21
  Sean: right.
• 2:22
  Sean: And I'm I 'll never forget one of my friends yelled out, hey, I just passed myself on the road, which I think about a lot.
• 2:27
  Sean: That was that was still one of the funniest comments ever, but but yeah, he yeah, like I said, and you and you're geared towards the movie to think like well, I'm I'm gonna start off with this.
• 2:39
  Sean: I don't know how you felt.
• 2:40
  Sean: Albert Finney's character is a dick.
• 2:42
  Hollie: Oh my goodness, that was in my notes.
• 2:44
  Hollie: Mark is a dick.
• 2:45
  Hollie: I really I'm not a huge Albert Finney fan...
• 2:49
  Sean: I like Albert Finney.
• 2:49
  Hollie: ...anyway, and we talked about that when you said I wanted that who was in the movie.
• 2:53
  Hollie: He was he was a dick.
• 2:55
  Hollie: And then I kept thinking when the movie was made, I could see why you would have watched this in a film class because of the editing and the creativity of how they told the story, and the story itself was pretty good, but the time frame and the way they treated women, I thought it was extremely offensive and sexist towards women.
• 3:15
  Sean: It is and that's I think that's basically the time period.
• 3:17
  Hollie: Right.
• 3:17
  Hollie: And I think that's the time period, I agree.
• 3:19
  Sean: And unfortunately that really has not changed today.
• 3:21
  Hollie: Well, no, but anyway, I just I really extremely disliked Albert Finney's character.
• 3:27
  Sean: Right.
• 3:27
  Sean: And you thought there were flashes of times when he could be okay, but yeah, overall, you know, as I'm watching it, I'm like, boy, he's he's kind of a jerk in each time period.
• 3:36
  Sean: At some point or another, he is.
• 3:37
  Hollie: Yes.
• 3:38
  Hollie: Are you supposed to not like him?
• 3:39
  Hollie: Was that the I don't know, was that their goal?
• 3:42
  Sean: I don't know.
• 3:42
  Sean: I I mean I I maybe they're yeah, it wasn't really a multi-dimensional character per se, even when he he kind of came across as he was supposed to be loving or endearing, he he kind of wasn't.
• 3:55
  Hollie: Right.
• 3:55
  Sean: I don't think that's necessarily Finney's fault.
• 3:57
  Sean: Maybe it is, but maybe it's also the care.
• 3:58
  Sean: I think it's more the character.
• 4:00
  Hollie: Right.
• 4:00
  Hollie: Like I don't I I I wouldn't say that that was necessarily an Albert Finney issue.
• 4:04
  Hollie: That's definitely a character issue.
• 4:06
  Hollie: I there was no real redeeming quality in that character that I found at all, other than Audrey Hepburn, who is just phenomenal in everything.
• 4:15
  Sean: I mean, she was definitely the star of the film.
• 4:17
  Sean: Um she yeah, she ran away with it.
• 4:19
  Sean: And she is indeed, yeah.
• 4:20
  Sean: Her character is multifaceted.
• 4:22
  Hollie: Yeah, her she makes mistakes, she you know, owns up to them, but she's just like a really...
• 4:27
  Sean: It's a normal person.
• 4:29
  Hollie: Yeah, she came off very I I did enjoy her character in it.
• 4:32
  Hollie: She was funny too, she had a sense of humor.
• 4:34
  Sean: She she really did.
• 4:34
  Hollie: Yeah, the husband's character, Mark's character, had no sense of humor and no, and and he one of the things I think that the movie talked about a lot was money because in the beginning they were kind of both broke.
• 4:47
  Sean: Exactly.
• 4:48
  Hollie: And then when he became an architect and he became very famous and very well sought after, and he hooked his wagon up to a rich guy that he was at his beck and call.
• 5:00
  Hollie: But that's when Albert Finney kept saying like things like made me think that he was blaming her for them wanting money.
• 5:06
  Hollie: Like, well, you wanted the money, you wanted this, and that's their relationship.
• 5:10
  Hollie: But you could tell that that was all him.
• 5:12
  Hollie: I didn't feel like she was the one pushing him because she wanted money, I felt like it was him.
• 5:18
  Sean: I agree with you.
• 5:18
  Sean: I I never thought for once it was it was Audrey Hepburn's character at all.
• 5:22
  Sean: Yeah, it was him, and I think it was a projection.
• 5:24
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 5:25
  Sean: Yeah, he um projected because he wanted to make the money, you know, he kept saying through all the time, you know, well, early on, too.
• 5:30
  Sean: I'm gonna conquer the world, I'm gonna do this.
• 5:31
  Sean: And he did, but you know, here's another thing because I thought about this too, because we talked about this when we when we discussed Grosse Pointe Blank.
• 5:39
  Sean: Fate.
• 5:40
  Sean: So fate not only brought he and Audrey Hepburn together because of the chicken pox, because he was destined to go off.
• 5:46
  Sean: Well, not destined, he was supposed to go off with Jacqueline Bisset...
• 5:49
  Hollie: Right.
• 5:49
  Sean: ...but he went off with Audrey Hepburn . At the one hotel, and I thought that was kind of a nice juxta juxtaposition where their car caught on fire when they were poor.
• 5:59
  Sean: And I think that was their first car, and their car...
• 6:01
  Hollie: But I didn't get them as being real poor in that time.
• 6:04
  Sean: Not really poor, no, but...
• 6:06
  Hollie: I mean they they were younger, right?
• 6:07
  Sean: They were younger, yeah.
• 6:08
  Sean: So they I mean kicked around Europe and...
• 6:09
  Hollie: They didn't money that they have now.
• 6:12
  Sean: That was Miss Hannah. Giving a little shake.
• 6:13
  Hollie: Because their cars were they kept mentioning their cars, and being someone who doesn't know anything about cars, like I didn't know if they were expensive cars or not.
• 6:22
  Hollie: Like the they kept talking about the MG, the MG, and that was the fun time that they had.
• 6:26
  Hollie: And I wrote that down because I'm like, I don't know, is an MG expensive?
• 6:30
  Hollie: Was it cheap?
• 6:31
  Sean: Right. I'm not familiar with cars either.
• 6:31
  Hollie: You know, are they referencing that they had fun in that car because it was it was less expensive and it was more of their relaxed fun time?
• 6:39
  Hollie: I don't know.
• 6:41
  Sean: Right.
• 6:41
  Sean: Well, I mean, so you know, when their car catches fire at that one point, so two things happen.
• 6:47
  Sean: So one, they meet that couple.
• 6:49
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 6:50
  Sean: The older kind of really I don't I don't I don't know the the guy was weird.
• 6:54
  Sean: I mean the wife seemed normal, but the guy was weird, yeah.
• 6:56
  Sean: But obviously he, yeah, well, oh, I happen to be looking for an architect...
• 7:00
  Hollie: Right.
• 7:00
  Sean: Which you know, and Audrey Hepburn basically talked him up, and she got him that...
• 7:04
  Hollie: Right, she got him that job.
• 7:05
  Sean: ...gig, right.
• 7:06
  Sean: So that was one aspect of it.
• 7:08
  Sean: But the hotel they had to stay in, again, they didn't have any money, so it was a really ritzy hotel, and he went out to get food and they had to sneak it in, and it was kind of a nice little goofy comedy thing when the food was falling out of his.
• 7:21
  Sean: Uh and later on they do find out it was included, the food was included in their bill...
• 7:24
  Hollie: That was kind of funny.
• 7:25
  Sean: That was funny.
• 7:26
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 7:26
  Sean: But yeah, so but then they go back to that hotel later on and they don't obviously have as much fun.
• 7:30
  Hollie: No.
• 7:31
  Sean: As when you know, it goes really the whole thing was they had more fun when they didn't have as much money.
• 7:36
  Hollie: Right, right.
• 7:37
  Sean: You know, because their time too.
• 7:38
  Sean: He was he was always on call for that guy...
• 7:40
  Hollie: Right.
• 7:40
  Sean: ...which got irritating.
• 7:42
  Hollie: Where so like my whole thing with this movie was what it what are you what are they trying to say?
• 7:47
  Hollie: You know, were they trying to say that money makes you miserable, or were they trying to say that, you know, people change through marriage, but you can still love each other and still change?
• 7:58
  Hollie: Like, I couldn't, that's one thing I really didn't like, but I couldn't figure out what they were trying to say.
• 8:02
  Hollie: And I think like that type of movie had some type of storyline, like a thing to it, and I just couldn't figure out what it was.
• 8:11
  Sean: There's one, well, the one vacation they take is actually with his one of his ex-girlfriends and her husband played by William Daniels, who is best known for...
• 8:21
  Hollie: St. Elsewhere.
• 8:21
  Sean: ...for St.
• 8:21
  Sean: Elsewhere or the voice of Kitt.
• 8:23
  Hollie: Well, I St.
• 8:24
  Hollie: Elsewhere was...
• 8:24
  Sean: Yeah, and Boy Meets World that he was, now I wouldn't know him for because I didn't watch, but but he, I mean, I well, yeah, he's just great.
• 8:30
  Sean: And he plays this real fastidious type of, yeah, OCD type of guy with their their kid along, and the kid was...
• 8:37
  Hollie: Brat!
• 8:37
  Sean: ...a brat.
• 8:38
  Sean: She was a brat, but I blame the parents on that one too.
• 8:40
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 8:40
  Sean: I mean, because they were they they coddled her and everything., um...
• 8:43
  Hollie: Almost remind me of the way millennials were raised, almost like like you know how they always say something repeats generations later.
• 8:50
  Hollie: It's almost like the way sometimes we treat kids now.
• 8:52
  Hollie: It's almost like everyone gets the trophy type kid.
• 8:55
  Sean: Exactly.
• 8:55
  Sean: That's exactly...
• 8:56
  Hollie: She wants to express her feelings and she's mad.
• 8:58
  Hollie: It was just very annoying.
• 9:00
  Sean: Yeah, I mean, you know, when we were younger, we did that, we'd have gotten our asses beat.
• 9:03
  Hollie: Right.
• 9:04
  Sean: So, I mean, not you know, don't don't call our our families in for abuse.
• 9:08
  Sean: That's yeah, that's how it was.
• 9:09
  Sean: And you know, you got paddled or spanked or you know, punished.
• 9:12
  Sean: You know what that movie reminded me a lot of, and I don't know if you'll agree with the arguing between husband and wife?
• 9:17
  Sean: The Ref.
• 9:19
  Hollie: Yeah, a little bit, yeah.
• 9:20
  Sean: A little bit.
• 9:20
  Sean: No, I mean it wasn't as fun.
• 9:21
  Sean: Like we love The Ref.
• 9:22
  Sean: We'll probably do that around Christmas to do uh for one of our Christmas movies, but it's kind of an annual tradition.
• 9:30
  Sean: But anyway, so Stanley Donen, who who directed this movie, is known for a lot of the Hollywood classics, like Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.
• 9:39
  Sean: He did Singin in the Rain.
• 9:41
  Sean: And I totally forgot until I looked him up, he did and the movie I saw when I when it was in the theaters, Blame It on Rio.
• 9:49
  Hollie: Oh, I hated that movie.
• 9:51
  Sean: I was not a fan of it either.
• 9:52
  Sean: I mean, it's got yeah, Michael Caine and Joseph Bologna, but I mean, you know, the real reason I went to see it.
• 9:57
  Hollie: That girl with the...
• 9:58
  Sean: Michelle Johnson.
• 9:59
  Sean: Absolutely.
• 9:59
  Sean: I mean, that's I was what 15 years old.
• 10:01
  Sean: I'm sneaking in to see Blame It on Rio.
• 10:04
  Sean: It was disappointing, wasn't it you know, it wasn't what you expected.
• 10:07
  Sean: It was more of like...
• 10:08
  Hollie: It's just it wasn't...
• 10:09
  Sean: ...yeah.
• 10:09
  Sean: I mean, it was a middle-aged crisis, mid life crisis movie with Michael Caine.
• 10:13
  Sean: Um, he also did, uh, which I find interesting, the Lionel Richie "Dancing on the Ceiling" video.
• 10:18
  Sean: The same director?
• 10:19
  Sean: Yes, Stanley Donen did "Dancing on the Ceiling", which...
• 10:23
  Hollie: He really didn't have a style of his own, did he?
• 10:26
  Sean: I mean he did more musicals, I think, than any.
• 10:28
  Sean: I think this was uh kind of a less of a musical.
• 10:30
  Sean: Yeah, it was obviously less of a musical.
• 10:32
  Sean: There were a lot of great well, so let me when we talked about them traveling with that other couple.
• 10:38
  Sean: So here's one thing that you you mentioned, you noticed, and I noticed too, that William Daniels' character, he's driving, he keeps spraying, spraying something almost on the windshield.
• 10:46
  Hollie: Yeah, it was like a bug spray or something.
• 10:48
  Sean: Right.
• 10:48
  Sean: But then he also sprayed when the daughter was on the side of the road going to the potty, like they had a little port-a-potty.
• 10:53
  Sean: So was she was she pissing on the windshield or on the dashboard?
• 10:57
  Hollie: I don't know, like it was he a germophobe? Like...
• 10:59
  Sean: I don't know, I couldn't figure that out either.
• 11:00
  Hollie: I think they were trying to say he had OCD.
• 11:02
  Sean: Probably.
• 11:03
  Hollie: That's what I was thinking, and it didn't didn't really, it just come came off more of he had like an obsessive personality.
• 11:09
  Hollie: It didn't really he was good in it, but it didn't come off like a it was it was just weird.
• 11:15
  Hollie: It was a weird I think they were showing the juxtaposition between the two couples...
• 11:19
  Sean: Yeah, well absolutely.
• 11:21
  Hollie: ...but it wasn't valuable, I think.
• 11:24
  Sean: Right.
• 11:24
  Sean: Well, I mean it's I think it's more because they they said they wanted uh she wanted kids, but he didn't somewhere along like time.
• 11:31
  Sean: They again that's that's kind of a bit of contention about them about their relationship.
• 11:35
  Hollie: They do have a daughter.
• 11:35
  Sean: They do, yeah, they eventually do have a daughter.
• 11:38
  Sean: There was um what I liked though was there's a running thing about the passport.
• 11:43
  Hollie: Yes, I did that.
• 11:44
  Hollie: Was cute.
• 11:45
  Hollie: I did like that.
• 11:46
  Sean: So when they're older and they're on the plane, he says, oh, the plane has to turn back.
• 11:49
  Sean: Well, really demanding, which is yeah, oh, the plane has to turn back.
• 11:52
  Sean: I forgot my passport.
• 11:53
  Sean: Now, granted, I don't think it was a commercial flight.
• 11:55
  Sean: I think it was more of a it wasn't even a private jet though, but it was maybe a chartered flight of some kind.
• 12:00
  Hollie: Yeah, well, back then, who knows?
• 12:01
  Hollie: Because those planes were small.
• 12:02
  Sean: Right.
• 12:03
  Hollie: We assumed it was, but...
• 12:04
  Sean: And she has his, you know, he's looking all over it.
• 12:06
  Sean: She has his passport.
• 12:08
  Sean: But she it pops up too when they first meet.
• 12:11
  Sean: Actually, when they yeah, when they first meet, in a way, it's on the ship.
• 12:15
  Hollie: Right.
• 12:15
  Sean: So and she he says, Oh, I can't find my passport.
• 12:18
  Sean: She happens to have it.
• 12:18
  Sean: Well, she finds it, and she finds it in his bag.
• 12:21
  Hollie: Right.
• 12:21
  Sean: So she's always like kind of the rock, kind of the solid thing there.
• 12:24
  Sean: But one of the lines I really liked was when he says, "If there's one thing I despise, it's an indispensable woman".
• 12:31
  Sean: Which is just a great line, I think.
• 12:34
  Hollie: Yeah, it's a good line, but...
• 12:34
  Sean: You know, it's because he was he was half joking with that.
• 12:37
  Hollie: But was he?
• 12:38
  Sean: I don't know.
• 12:38
  Sean: I mean...
• 12:39
  Hollie: I mean, we the the way I just thought he was very disrespectful to to her and the daughter, like the relationship with him and the daughter, even like the daughter wasn't a priority.
• 12:50
  Hollie: Like it seemed like nobody was a priority.
• 12:52
  Hollie: He was very selfish, and and she was more the one who had to do everything.
• 12:56
  Hollie: Like he he acted like, you know, I'm the man, I'm the breadwinner, I do everything.
• 13:00
  Hollie: But really, his wife did everything, like even with the passport.
• 13:04
  Hollie: She kept him in line, she kept everything going.
• 13:06
  Hollie: She's the one who does all the work, but he's the one who gets all the glory.
• 13:11
  Sean: Yes, I I agree.
• 13:12
  Hollie: My least favorite scene that really kind of pissed me off in the movie, and again, I think it's coming from you know, my feminist attitude is when he threw in what's the pool scene.
• 13:26
  Sean: Right, right.
• 13:27
  Sean: When the so the they're playing ping pong...
• 13:29
  Hollie: Right.
• 13:29
  Sean: He and the boss, he and the the big boss, and it went over and she was playing around with him and said, Oh, like she took the ball and pretended like she swallowed it.
• 13:37
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 13:38
  Sean: She threw it in the pool.
• 13:38
  Hollie: Right.
• 13:39
  Sean: Right.
• 13:39
  Sean: And then he throws her in the pool because she wouldn't get up to get it.
• 13:41
  Hollie: And he was and he he he wasn't joking.
• 13:44
  Sean: No he wasn't.
• 13:44
  Hollie: Like he she kept being like ha ha ha, and he was like such a dick...
• 13:49
  Sean: Yeah.
• 13:49
  Hollie: ...like just so disrespectful and and mean.
• 13:52
  Hollie: Like he was almost he was mean in some scenes...
• 13:54
  Sean: He was.
• 13:55
  Hollie: ...that's why I couldn't figure out what this movie wanted to be.
• 13:58
  Sean: Right.
• 13:58
  Hollie: Do you want to show like a mean dick of a husband with a beautiful, amazing Audrey Hepburn wife?
• 14:05
  Hollie: Or like, are you showing how people change?
• 14:07
  Hollie: Like, I just I thought the filming of it and the editing and the transition parts were amazing, especially for back then.
• 14:14
  Hollie: So well done.
• 14:16
  Sean: I I agree.
• 14:16
  Sean: That editing was was phenomenal, but there is one shot that I've always hated, and I totally forgot about it until I saw it again.
• 14:24
  Sean: So it so it at one point in the marriage, he cheats on her.
• 14:29
  Sean: It's the only time they never travel together...
• 14:30
  Hollie: Right.
• 14:31
  Sean: Because they even make it a point, like, oh, you're I think it's when she was pregnant or something and he was..
• 14:34
  Hollie: Yeah probably.
• 14:34
  Sean: ...
• 14:34
  Sean: so he was traveling by himself.
• 14:36
  Sean: I think it was that he was traveling by himself, and he's doing kind of a back and forth with this woman on the road in the cars, he's passing her, she's passing him, and yeah, he ends up cheating on her, but then she ends up cheating on him too at the at the very end with the his the boss's wife's brother...
• 14:54
  Hollie: Boss' wife's brother, yeah.
• 14:55
  Sean: ...who looks like a cross between, and a lot of people may or may not know who the one is, but Bradford Dillman, who's in Piranha, uh who's also in Escape from the Planet of the Apes, and Tony Randall.
• 15:05
  Hollie: He did have a Tony Randall look yeah, I'll give you that.
• 15:07
  Sean: It was very because he had plus he had the turtleneck on, it was very like it was very around that time, but...
• 15:11
  Hollie: Kind of reminded me of the the French guy now.
• 15:13
  Hollie: That's all I can tell you right now.
• 15:15
  Sean: Oh, yeah, I know who you're talking about.
• 15:16
  Sean: I can't think of who he is.
• 15:17
  Hollie: That's who he reminded me of.
• 15:18
  Hollie: Like he was trying to be sexy, like they kind of wanted that character to be this sexy playboy...
• 15:23
  Sean: Right, but he was that was not the right guy.
• 15:24
  Sean: I mean, I think it was the...
• 15:25
  Hollie: ...no, not the right casting.
• 15:27
  Sean: He was he was annoying too, in a different way.
• 15:29
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 15:29
  Sean: So but when Albert Finney's character comes up and he is so he comes up those stairs, and Audrey Hepburn is sitting there with I think David is his name at the table, it does like an odd freeze and then like a zoom in a way.
• 15:47
  Sean: It was a very jarring, a very jarring choice to make aesthetically.
• 15:52
  Sean: I it was I I like I thought that way back in when I saw it in college, which is probably what about uh middle of college, so I would probably say 89, you know, is when I saw it.
• 16:02
  Sean: But it was do you remember that scene at all?
• 16:05
  Hollie: No, I just well I...
• 16:06
  Sean: That shot i I always thought it was ...
• 16:07
  Hollie: I remember the scene, but I don't don't recall that exact shot.
• 16:11
  Hollie: Yeah, it was the scene, of course I remember because it was irritating.
• 16:15
  Sean: Yeah, I mean it was it was so it just froze and it kind of zoomed, it kind of a zoom, but it was just an odd choice for that film.
• 16:22
  Sean: I I thought it was it again, it was uh maybe it was meant to be jarring, but it's already jarring if you see her with some other guy.
• 16:28
  Sean: You know, I don't...
• 16:28
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 16:28
  Sean: I don't know why they chose to he chose to do that.
• 16:30
  Hollie: Right, yeah.
• 16:32
  Sean: But like I said, maybe 67, it was you know what it reminded me of like a French New Wave back then, like the all those choices, weird choices they made, and and that's another thing that made us watch in in college was the French New Wave stuff.
• 16:44
  Sean: And I I I wasn't a big fan.
• 16:46
  Sean: I don't know, I didn't really get it, maybe...
• 16:48
  Hollie: You had a very interesting film class in college, very different than mine when i went to college.
• 16:53
  Sean: Oh, we we did. We watched the the what The 400 Blows, we watched, and my friend John and I used to talk about because he was in the same class with me Last Year at Marienbad, which I will never ever make you watch.
• 17:04
  Hollie: I've never heard of these movies.
• 17:04
  Sean: It's it's bad, it's terrible, it's a terrible film.
• 17:06
  Sean: Last Year at Marienbad is just awful.
• 17:08
  Sean: Um, we saw a couple of good ones like Last Metro, Jules and Jim, Jules et Jim, I should say.
• 17:13
  Sean: But yeah, so maybe in 67 that kind of shot was I don't know, eclectic, but...
• 17:19
  Hollie: Popular, maybe.
• 17:19
  Sean: ...yeah, anyway.
• 17:20
  Sean: I don't know.
• 17:20
  Sean: There's another really good line.
• 17:22
  Sean: Well, it was between the two of them.
• 17:24
  Sean: So they were watching some other couple, and I think she said, That's marriage for you, and he said, That's marriage for them.
• 17:34
  Hollie: Right.
• 17:35
  Sean: And then she goes, That's marriage.
• 17:36
  Sean: Or I mean...
• 17:37
  Hollie: Something like that, yeah.
• 17:37
  Sean: ...back and forth I can't remember which you know who said what, but I mean, there were some really good lines in there, some you know, some really good dialogue.
• 17:45
  Hollie: Yeah, I mean, there were I did like, and it was more of what I would call a talkie...
• 17:49
  Sean: Yeah, well you're not gonna have shoot em up action or anything.
• 17:50
  Hollie: And very limited actors and actresses.
• 17:50
  Hollie: Well, yeah, but very limited cast, you know, it was very much just Albert Finney and her.
• 17:58
  Sean: Right, they carry they had to carry the whole film.
• 18:00
  Hollie: Which I did like that, and I did like their how they the the back and forth of their conversations and how they communicated, and I did like that a lot.
• 18:10
  Hollie: I just like really didn't I didn't really like the film that much, other than the the the like we said, the editing part was really cool.
• 18:18
  Hollie: I didn't like it.
• 18:19
  Hollie: I thought Albert Finney was a very nasty, mean husband.
• 18:22
  Hollie: And even at the end, when he was like saying stop or something, she was driving away, or he was driving away, I forget which one.
• 18:29
  Hollie: Someone was driving, and he's like, You won't you won't leave or you won't do that.
• 18:33
  Sean: Oh, yeah, no, she was walking away.
• 18:35
  Hollie: Yeah, walking away.
• 18:36
  Hollie: I just thought, you know, she finally you you I was excited.
• 18:39
  Hollie: I'm like, she finally got enough courage to say, I'm done, I'll I'm out, and then didn't.
• 18:44
  Hollie: And that that was kind of a letdown for me.
• 18:47
  Sean: Right?
• 18:47
  Sean: I mean, I know for some reason she loved him, which I don't understand.
• 18:50
  Sean: I may, I mean he said he did to her, but yeah, I...
• 18:54
  Hollie: He he relied on her for everything if you think about it.
• 18:57
  Sean: He did, yeah...
• 18:58
  Hollie: You know, but I've...
• 18:58
  Sean: Still again it's an, it's the indispensable woman.
• 19:00
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 19:01
  Sean: But you know, it reminded me a lot of so well, so when this episode airs, we are actually going to be on a road trip.
• 19:07
  Hollie: Right.
• 19:08
  Sean: So that'll be uh next week.
• 19:10
  Sean: And you know, one of the things is that we have and I know we've talked about touching on our other road trips that there are only so few people I could travel with solo, like I'm not not solo, but like two, like just one other person.
• 19:24
  Hollie: Like two people in a car for a very long time.
• 19:24
  Sean: Exactly.
• 19:24
  Sean: And it's you and you know, my late friend Mark, but we used to he and I used to travel all the time, and but you are you know you're the other one, and we always have a good time.
• 19:33
  Sean: We always have a good time just traveling, we point out stuff on the road to get to work.
• 19:40
  Sean: It's the journey.
• 19:41
  Hollie: Right.
• 19:41
  Hollie: And yeah, well, we always start our trips with half the half our vacation is the car time, you know, because we're we're still not home.
• 19:49
  Hollie: So the travel is the traveling to our destination is part of the vacation.
• 19:54
  Sean: It is.
• 19:54
  Hollie: I think in if you have that mindset, it makes it a little more fun.
• 19:58
  Sean: It it does, right.
• 19:58
  Sean: And you you know, you just have to whatever happens, you kind of have to just go with it, you know, uh...
• 20:03
  Hollie: It did make me want to travel drive across Europe though.
• 20:05
  Sean: I would I would always like to do that.
• 20:06
  Hollie: After watching this movie.
• 20:06
  Sean: Yeah, I don't want to hitchhike a cross. Driving...
• 20:08
  Hollie: It seems like it's real easy in this movie.
• 20:10
  Hollie: They just...
• 20:11
  Sean: Yeah, they just pick up and go, yeah...
• 20:12
  Hollie: You just stop somewhere, you walk around for a while and you don't have to make plans.
• 20:16
  Hollie: I know it was 1967, but I I almost like, oh, that's the way to live, man.
• 20:21
  Hollie: It was like I did like that part.
• 20:23
  Sean: Right. They just hop whenever they wanted.
• 20:24
  Sean: I mean, he was on the back of a tractor at one point.
• 20:26
  Hollie: Yep.
• 20:27
  Sean: When that's when the bus actually, I don't even know what happens to the bus, they just go into a ditch for some reason.
• 20:32
  Hollie: Because he was so handsome, the driver was paying attention to him and not the road.
• 20:37
  Sean: Oh, true, yeah.
• 20:38
  Hollie: Which is, I mean, I was surprised because I don't think I've ever seen Albert Finney at something that young.
• 20:44
  Hollie: I only know Albert Finney as an older man.
• 20:47
  Sean: True.
• 20:47
  Hollie: So to see him that young, he actually was fairly handsome, and I was kind of shocked by that.
• 20:51
  Hollie: He was an attractive man.
• 20:52
  Sean: You did see something, but it was three years later, and he had a lot of makeup on.
• 20:56
  Sean: Uh, most of the film was his musical version of Scrooge.
• 21:00
  Hollie: Oh, well, he wasn't supposed to be good looking as Scrooge.
• 21:02
  Sean: Well, I get that, right.
• 21:03
  Sean: Now, especially older.
• 21:04
  Sean: I mean, younger, yes, he was, but that's the only thing I could think of where you might have seen him younger at one point because he obviously did play, he had to have played himself.
• 21:13
  Sean: Yeah, Ebeneezer Scrooge as a younger man.
• 21:15
  Hollie: And I was surprised I didn't know of this movie at all.
• 21:19
  Sean: Right, you never even heard of it.
• 21:20
  Hollie: No, and and my family has a special connection with Audrey Hepburn, and my niece is named after her, and I just didn't know this movie.
• 21:28
  Hollie: Not that I know every Audrey Hepburn movie because back then they did a movie a day, but I didn't never heard of this and didn't know anything about it.
• 21:35
  Hollie: I am glad I watched it.
• 21:37
  Hollie: I don't want to watch it again.
• 21:38
  Sean: Right.
• 21:38
  Sean: I mean, it's not it's not it's not really rewatchable.
• 21:42
  Sean: It's just I wanted to see it again because I wanted to show it to you, and I just I was kind of you know, it had been you know nearly 40 years since I've seen it, so I thought it always stuck with me, like bits and pieces stuck with me.
• 21:53
  Hollie: Like I said, it was it I'm glad I saw it.
• 21:56
  Hollie: It was it was worth watching, and I'm glad I saw it.
• 21:59
  Hollie: I might purp purposefully bicker with you on our trip just to just to have a...
• 22:04
  Sean: So I could throw you in a pool?
• 22:05
  Hollie: Yeah so you can throw me in a pool.
• 22:07
  Sean: Well you'll be in in a lake so no not you'll be in the river.
• 22:11
  Hollie: Um no it'll be in the lake...
• 22:12
  Sean: It is a lake, right it is a lake that's true.
• 22:13
  Sean: So why don't you plug a little bit for what you're what where you'll be going and what you'll be doing and I'll obviously be tagging along so tell everyone because it's a great it's a great event...
• 22:24
  Hollie: Yes.
• 22:24
  Sean: ...and it's a great...
• 22:26
  Hollie: The Steel City Dragons are going to Toronto for a dragon boat race.
• 22:33
  Hollie: Our team is a mixed team of healthy men and women but then we also have a team of all breast cancer survivors and we have a team we're trying to get a bigger team of all cancer survivors.
• 22:45
  Hollie: So but this race itself we're going to have just one mixed boat so it's going to be people of all health issues and non-health issues.
• 22:54
  Hollie: I'm very excited I've never raced in Toronto obviously but it's a very fun it's a fun time and we we the camaraderie and the friendship and the the teamwork has really been beneficial I think for us.
• 23:07
  Sean: Yeah and we we have been to a lot of different places I wouldn't say it's extravagant this is probably the most extravagant place we've been to...
• 23:14
  Hollie: This is the biggest like city city that we used to because usually it's more in a local small town type area. You know, it's hard to get dragon boats downtown...
• 23:26
  Sean: Like Jamestown, Akron, which Jamestown's awesome yeah Buffalo is in Buffalo Buffalo is the biggest city until Buffalo's city but yeah it is great and I mean I like watching them paddle like I said it's uh anyone anyone can join I don't I'm not an outdoorsy person I'll sit outdoor but I I'm not you know I'm not a participant of outdoor recreation.
• 23:45
  Hollie: Even though we keep trying because you could...
• 23:47
  Sean: I mean yeah yeah definitely keep trying you know it's hey you know if first you don't succeed there'll be many times where you don't succeed; that's my adage.
• 23:55
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Sean: Okay well anything else that you would like to mention about the film?
• 24:00
  Hollie: No but if we have our rating of what's our what's our...
• 24:04
  Sean: So it's either glued to the set it's scrolling and taking a peek every now and again or change the channel.
• 24:11
  Hollie: This is a change the channel...
• 24:13
  Sean: It would for me I I mean I...
• 24:14
  Hollie: ...other than Audrey Hepburn.
• 24:15
  Sean: Right.
• 24:16
  Hollie: I can't plug her enough.
• 24:17
  Sean: I'd watch it for a couple minutes but it's not something I would see unless I'm gonna plan a watch the whole thing it's not something but I I would I would maybe recommend seeing if you're an Audrey Hepburn or an Albert Finney fan.
• 24:26
  Hollie: Or if you were interested in filmmaking.
• 24:29
  Sean: Yes, absolutely.
• 24:30
  Hollie: I think or storytelling.
• 24:31
  Sean: And Henry Mancini does the music.
• 24:33
  Hollie: Oh okay...
• 24:34
  Sean: That's another thing.
• 24:34
  Hollie: ...and I think the storytelling was really cool how the the the transitions between future and past I not future present past and then mid-past and then way past and then future...
• 24:44
  Sean: ...it was done very well it it like I said it wasn't it established it right almost immediately.
• 24:49
  Hollie: Right and it wasn't confusing you knew right away like I think the storytelling was amazing...
• 24:53
  Sean: And that's hard to do...
• 24:54
  Hollie: ...filmmaking was amazing.
• 24:55
  Hollie: Yeah.
• 24:55
  Sean: Okay all right well thank you again and I know you'll be back next week.
• 25:00
  Hollie: I'm all yes I'm always back...
• 25:02
  Sean: All right.
• 25:02
  Hollie: I think Hannah might come join us again.
• 25:04
  Sean: Yes yes she's here today and she might join us again...
• 25:07
  Hollie: Wants to be part of the pod.
• 25:08
  Sean: ...next time which I hey why not?
• 25:10
  Sean: She might speak at some point.
• 25:11
  Sean: That wraps up another episode so make sure you hit like, subscribe, download, whatever it takes to be the first to know when new episodes become available on your favorite podcast platform.
• 25:21
  Sean: For Scenes From the Screen I'm Sean and thanks for listening.