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Patriots Unfiltered 1/3: Dolphins Takeaways, Updates on Bills Safety Damar Hamlin · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
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  Speaker 1: Origion Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. Paul's gonna have to leave
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  Speaker 1: early because he's moons. Yeah, he's going on with his
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  Speaker 1: other show. So for the first hour he's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: going head to head with Catch twenty two. So if
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  Speaker 1: no one's listening, Paul, you'll know why I will. I'd
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  Speaker 1: made my picks. I pick. I thought you said you
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  Speaker 1: had a major pick just within that short Wow. Just
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  Speaker 1: shows you the thought we put into this with the
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  Speaker 1: lead that I have. I didn't really see the need. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's no particular reason, but there are several ways. That's
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  Speaker 1: not what he said. He said no particular reason, right,
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  Speaker 1: because they're already you're reading all three teams heavy heavy,
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  Speaker 1: heavy underdogs, but they were not heavy underdogs playing the
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  Speaker 1: jett with the underdogs. I don't even know, I'll come on,
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  Speaker 1: come on, but they weren't heavy underdogs against the common
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Kansas City's gonna unplode. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals are going to unplode. Why so, why do
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  Speaker 1: you think Buffalo. Well because of red Ass. This is
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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered fueled by Duncan. Thanks Matt, Um you could
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  Speaker 1: have edited that one out. Yeah, but anyway, Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a strange day here and Patriots Unfiltered in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL and because of what happened last night. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: wish I could come on air and say, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we heard themar's doing, but we haven't. I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't had any updates. So it's gonna be just a
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  Speaker 1: show where I don't think we're gonna talk much about
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  Speaker 1: the Bills game coming up because we don't know about
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  Speaker 1: the Bills game coming up. We don't know what's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, you know, not the time to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that game. Um, but we are going to have a shown,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about the game that we had
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  Speaker 1: against the Bengals. It's weird, you know, because like here
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  Speaker 1: here's the Patriots in the middle of it again. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like we just played the Bengals, were about to play
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  Speaker 1: the Bills. The two teams that were involved in the
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  Speaker 1: game last night. It's it's just so weird, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's just it's hard. I think everybody's going through
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  Speaker 1: right now where you use sports as kind of your
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  Speaker 1: escape from reality, and then when you get hit with
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  Speaker 1: the dosa reality from the place that you kind of
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  Speaker 1: used to get away from those things, it's it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to balance it. And I think everybody today is just
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  Speaker 1: kind of feels like it's hard to really worry about
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots playoff hopes or the Patriots offense, like you know, Matt,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia today, I mean, I'm having trouble mustering any
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  Speaker 1: of that energy. Yeah, after that, after last night, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: especially with the gravity of this game. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about you guys, but I felt like that was appointment
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  Speaker 1: television for me last night. I can't remember the last
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  Speaker 1: time I was so excited for a regular season game
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't the Patriots, and to have that all play
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  Speaker 1: out the way it did in primetime, it kind of
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  Speaker 1: just rattles you. Yeah, Yeah, that's the thing. We all
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  Speaker 1: witnessed it. You know, it was for me, it was
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  Speaker 1: the look on the players faces. Um, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: could just tell I mean there's always when guys get hurt,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, certainly guys walk over and you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe give a helmet tap if it seems like it
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  Speaker 1: might be something serious, but just the look of horror
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  Speaker 1: and dread on their faces. And even though as an
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  Speaker 1: audience you couldn't see what was actually going on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and amongst the you know, all the doctors that were
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  Speaker 1: that we're working on him, you knew it was serious
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  Speaker 1: and you know, and then you take to Twitter, and
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  Speaker 1: then the Twitter wars begin. But at least at least
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  Speaker 1: you were able to just say two points. You get
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  Speaker 1: the information from Twitter, and then I would say, there
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  Speaker 1: are obviously, I know, we can trash social media, and
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  Speaker 1: but there also was a lot of good that seems
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  Speaker 1: to be coming out of this in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people supporting his cause. I mean, over three point five
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  Speaker 1: million dollars has been you know, donated to and I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a little confusion exactly what it was. He
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  Speaker 1: was raising money I think for kids, um initially, and
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  Speaker 1: but you know, so those things are always nice, and
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  Speaker 1: I think I got to give some credit, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just there was a Bills player, But I think the
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  Speaker 1: Bills fans and the Bills mafia, they're always so supportive
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  Speaker 1: of other teams when other players go down, and and
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  Speaker 1: I think you're seeing today that other teams are taking
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  Speaker 1: some recognition of that. And also you know you're seeing
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  Speaker 1: plenty of guys donate. Patriots players, all the players around
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  Speaker 1: the NFL donate to the cause and stuff. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's not really a silver lining, but it is.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one good part that comes out of it
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  Speaker 1: is bringing people back together and you know, putting the
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  Speaker 1: team rooting interests all aside because it's really meaningless. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it was pretty unanimous last night, like there's
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  Speaker 1: no way we can play this game. There's no I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I saw Josh Allen standing next to Joe Burrow and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no way that these guys are about
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  Speaker 1: to go compete against each other. They're standing there just
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  Speaker 1: looking like two guys who have just experienced a really,
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  Speaker 1: really tough life situation and there's no way to click
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  Speaker 1: back into competitive Hey, I'm gonna go beat this guy's
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  Speaker 1: ass now. Like it's just I and it's like, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you have seen someone
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  Speaker 1: in cardiac arrest and you know, EMTs trying to bring
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  Speaker 1: them back to life. It's it's rattling, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: and so these guys just witness that they don't know
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  Speaker 1: how he is. How do you go play and like
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  Speaker 1: even do like someone's gonna get hurt because you can't focus.
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  Speaker 1: Like maybe half the guys are focused, the other half aren't.
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  Speaker 1: And now it's just it's an unsafe situation to put
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  Speaker 1: people in because of what they just witnessed and their
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  Speaker 1: mind isn't on you know, football, Like you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: that's why I hate preseason. You know, it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: half the guys are playing for a job. The other
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  Speaker 1: ones just want to get out of there, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get injuries because guys aren't in it one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent mentally. And that's what would have happened last night
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  Speaker 1: had they made them play, and thank god they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, can they turn the page by Sunday?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think even that even that on the air,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, you hate to say, well,
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  Speaker 1: the game must go on and all that stuff. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to go on. But I think I think
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  Speaker 1: they'll play Sunday, um, but it'll and hopefully by then
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  Speaker 1: they'll know what's going on with Hamlin. That's because that's
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  Speaker 1: the main thing that that's all they care about right now.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a Buffalo, Bill is, how's our teammate? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing right now. The family
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  Speaker 1: did offer just don't I don't want to call it
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  Speaker 1: an update. They were just thanking everyone and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the medical people that that helped him. Know. They said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll let you know when we have an update.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think the last update we had
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  Speaker 1: was that you know, he's he's at the hospital and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we just is in critical consition. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: until you get some kind of update, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: really turn the page and think about what's next. I
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  Speaker 1: think he just you need that report of hopefully that
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  Speaker 1: that he's stable, he's going to be okay. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: it's obviously a really complicated I hate that we haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard any updates since last night. Really, yeah, it just
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  Speaker 1: provides such a breeding ground for such irresponsible speculation. I
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  Speaker 1: hate it because I don't think there is an update
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  Speaker 1: to give, right That's what I hate about. But I
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  Speaker 1: think that was confirmed by the family. Yeah, the statement
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  Speaker 1: that Mike just yea just referenced. You know, they said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll provide an updates. I don't think they're
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  Speaker 1: holding back. I just don't think that there's any change.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I hate. And that's yeah, that's that's unfortunate
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  Speaker 1: because you would hope that we would have woken up
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  Speaker 1: this morning to at least a glimmer yeah of good news.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's status quo. So we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to talk about you know. And I say we, I
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  Speaker 1: don't mean just the four of us on the show.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the league is gonna have to talk about
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  Speaker 1: things that people probably aren't ready to talk about. But
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  Speaker 1: to you a point, Fred, at some point they are
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  Speaker 1: going to have to turn a page and life is
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  Speaker 1: going to have to go on it. And I know
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  Speaker 1: it sounds cold, but there's a week eighteen coming up
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the you know, at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season here that I think it's gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to get played. Yeah, yeah, And I mean I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how you get around it without I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm the Bills and if you know, six seven guys
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  Speaker 1: come to me, you know, if I'm McDermott or whoever
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  Speaker 1: the owner is and take you know what, I just
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I can play this week. Okay, Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not. You don't have to play this week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean for Buffalo specifically, I think it might be
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  Speaker 1: a little different. Yeah, I was talking about the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the league. Yeah, you know Buffalo. Oh, I think
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  Speaker 1: you're right right if they if they don't agree that
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  Speaker 1: they can play. I mean, I think a forfeit is
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  Speaker 1: on the table. Like, I don't know how you get around.
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  Speaker 1: You can't make them play, no, especially where they have
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  Speaker 1: two games to go. So, I mean, one thing I
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  Speaker 1: thought of initially was like, could you just kind of
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  Speaker 1: push that game a week and maybe try to play
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  Speaker 1: Bengals Bills on Monday night, give the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: team's kind of a weekend off, and then eat into
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  Speaker 1: the bye week in between the conference championships. You could.
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  Speaker 1: I would have gone the opposite. I would have played
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  Speaker 1: the Week eighteen schedule as is and then let the
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  Speaker 1: Bills and Bengals play that first week of the Wild
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  Speaker 1: Cord Round to push the playoffs back. But there's no answers,
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  Speaker 1: there's no there's no easy solution. I mean I went
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  Speaker 1: in this situation, I think they should just call it
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  Speaker 1: a tie. If both teams agree, call it a tie
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  Speaker 1: and live with whatever those ramifications are. And that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. I agree with you. But we'll see what happens,
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  Speaker 1: all right. So we're not going to focus on the
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  Speaker 1: Bills game coming up, like I said, because we have
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  Speaker 1: no idea what's going to happen. So but you know,
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  Speaker 1: we we let's talk about the game that the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: had with the Bengals. Um, you know, and Evan just
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  Speaker 1: sat down. It's deuces here, Evan, Alex Paul, myself, Matt's
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  Speaker 1: in the booth house. Yeah, it's a full house. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I do want to talk about that
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  Speaker 1: because there's there's a debate, and it's an honest debate
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  Speaker 1: about did the defense have a great game or not?
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  Speaker 1: Is it because you're playing against Teddy Bridgewater and then
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  Speaker 1: he went down in the third quarter and then you're
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  Speaker 1: playing against Tyler Skyler Thompson And is that why the
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  Speaker 1: defense looked really good? Uh? And I think it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can have an opinion either way. I I think
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  Speaker 1: I think the defense played pretty well. I think even
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  Speaker 1: when Bridgewater was in there, they had held you know,
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  Speaker 1: the numbers down, and I think they were playing pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it didn't hurt, it didn't help obviously, the
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  Speaker 1: Bengals that he went down, right, it's the Dolphins. Why
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  Speaker 1: am I thinking would put confusion? Yeah, so I'm I'm rattled,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'm rattled. Yeah, wow, we all are ye
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  Speaker 1: now you know so. But I do think the defense
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  Speaker 1: played well, and I think they have been playing well.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, if it wasn't for them,
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't even be sniffing the playoffs. Yeah. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think seven touchdowns kind of speaks for itself. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I I do think they played well. I also think
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  Speaker 1: that there were elements of playing Skyler Thompson and Teddy Bridgewater.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, they're a good defense. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of what we came to in the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks. And I think for me, it's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's the takeaways that they continue to get, takeaways, they
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  Speaker 1: continue to get points, um, and for this team and
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  Speaker 1: and the offense, it's just critical. It's it's a critical
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  Speaker 1: element of their games and and any game that they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna win, they need, you know, preferably points, but at
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  Speaker 1: the very least they need takeaways and you know, they've
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  Speaker 1: kept those up this year. I think last year that
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  Speaker 1: the takeaways dried up, and I think that's when everything
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  Speaker 1: totally went dry. So, um, it's just uh, I think
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  Speaker 1: the pass rush has led the way. You know, credit
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  Speaker 1: to those guys. They've been a real strength this year
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  Speaker 1: and really played well, and you know, they deserve a
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  Speaker 1: lot of credit in a season that you know is
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  Speaker 1: filled with obviously a lot of criticism on other side
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  Speaker 1: of that, I think point to turnover differential. I think
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  Speaker 1: they're like fifth in the league right now, or they're
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  Speaker 1: up there. Yeah, after a bad start too, I mean
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  Speaker 1: in credit to the offense and you know, as as
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  Speaker 1: Evan wrote, Mac, you know, just taking care of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's I mean, I think those
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  Speaker 1: were fundamental things that they had to get right after
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  Speaker 1: the early part of the season was you know, you
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  Speaker 1: just can't turn the ball over like that to give
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  Speaker 1: you a chance self a chance to win. And that's
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  Speaker 1: and that's what they've been doing. So I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: do think they deserve, you know, credit for that, for
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  Speaker 1: playing safe with the ball. Some key h examples though,
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  Speaker 1: of course, being the end of the two previous games
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  Speaker 1: which we were not great Paul security and right and
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  Speaker 1: cost you but still yeah, yeah, well I think that
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  Speaker 1: what I would like to see any game this year,
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  Speaker 1: if we possibly could, is a game where, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the offense takes some of the pressure off the defense
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  Speaker 1: to not have to pitch basically a perfect game, especially
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  Speaker 1: down the stretching games right, you know, second quarter on,
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  Speaker 1: a second half on excuse me. So, I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the conversation about the defense about against elite quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: right against the Burrows, the Allen's, you know Lamar earlier
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  Speaker 1: on in the year. Okay, but what would have happened
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  Speaker 1: in some of those games if the offense was pulling
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  Speaker 1: its weight in the game right for right? You know,
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  Speaker 1: what would have happened if the defense wasn't out there
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  Speaker 1: for thirty seven minutes of the game against Cincinnati a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, or against the Raiders, you know,
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  Speaker 1: especially in that first half they were on the field
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  Speaker 1: of ton and then they gave up the touchdown drive
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Well, were they gasped
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  Speaker 1: because they were on the field for forty minutes? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Whereas sort of that line as well, because I think
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  Speaker 1: the defense has really played well and unlike the offense,
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  Speaker 1: has played above maybe their talent level at times this year,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the secondary, and in this game, they played
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  Speaker 1: a ton of zone. They were eighty percent zone. They
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  Speaker 1: put a lot of split safety zone, you know, cover
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  Speaker 1: two quarters, things like that, and speaking to the players
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  Speaker 1: after the game, they simply said that they couldn't give
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  Speaker 1: up big plays in this one, right, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: much rather force Teddy Bridgewater and the Dolphins to beat
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  Speaker 1: them eleven twelve, thirteen play drives than to give up
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  Speaker 1: one for seventy five, which is obvious, but I think
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  Speaker 1: that that's where a lot of the game plan came from.
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  Speaker 1: And when Bridgewater was in the game, he did do
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  Speaker 1: a decent job of checking the ball down and taking
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  Speaker 1: the profits underneath the defense, and maybe they did give
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  Speaker 1: up some yards doing that, but ultimately they're fourteen on
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  Speaker 1: third down. They obviously had the two turnovers in the
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  Speaker 1: second half, and I think that they executed the game plan.
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  Speaker 1: Now is that game plan it'sthetically pleasing to the point
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  Speaker 1: where they're covering every blade of grass and absolutely shutting
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  Speaker 1: down the offense. Maybe maybe not, but I think that
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  Speaker 1: that was they knew they were going to give up
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  Speaker 1: some stuff underneath to protect against the base and you
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  Speaker 1: can talk about you know, uh, backup quarterback, third string
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  Speaker 1: quarterback for Miami. But remember the Patriots were without three
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  Speaker 1: of their corners, you know, so it was kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, so your backups against our backups, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's see what happens. I, like Kevin said, I think
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  Speaker 1: they there wasn't a clear game plan on defense, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they did their job. I think they did
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  Speaker 1: their job to the best of their abilities, and I
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  Speaker 1: was pleased with it. You know, Evan, you weren't too
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  Speaker 1: impressed though, with with McDaniel. I was. I was enjoying
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  Speaker 1: your right up. But I think that there's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's your point. It's like, I think this Patriots defense
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  Speaker 1: when they get beat, you know, you know what it
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  Speaker 1: kind of looks like, and why don't teams do that
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  Speaker 1: all the time. Well, so I think that there was
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  Speaker 1: an element of this that ye know, the old coaching
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  Speaker 1: adage is that you run away from man and you
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  Speaker 1: find the soft spots in zone. Right, So if the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots are playing eighty percent zone, the crossing routes and
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  Speaker 1: stretching the field horizontally might not be the best approach
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  Speaker 1: they might be trying. You might need to just sit
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  Speaker 1: down and pick your spots more against the zone coverage
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  Speaker 1: than to do stuff like that. But what I just
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  Speaker 1: thought was ridiculous from McDaniel in this game is in
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  Speaker 1: the running game too, that the Dolphins tried to come
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  Speaker 1: right at the Patriots in the running game. They were
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  Speaker 1: running downhill running schemes and so was not Kyle Shanahan
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  Speaker 1: outside zone, Let's get it out on the edge and
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: try to turn the corner. This was counter, This was lead.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: This was come right at you. If you want to
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: play the Patriots, especially in the running game in a
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: phone booth, then good luck. Like you're not going to
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: beat the Patriots that way, Like you're not gonna beat
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Davon Gotshaw and larn Sky and Gilani Tavai and Jawan Bentley,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: especially playing downhill football, that they'll bully you all game
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: long if that's how you want to play it. And
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I thought the Dolphins advantage, like a lot of teams
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: that are built like Miami with Tyree Hill and Jalen
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Waddle and most who's a fast running back, is to
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: try to get out on the edge and try to
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: turn the corner on New England and make those linebackers
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: and make those bigger d tackles run sideline to sideline,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: and instead they try to come right at the Patriots,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: and I think the Patriots just are like, bring it on, Like,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: if this is what you want to do, then we
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: got you know, this is totally fine with us. And
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I tweeted out some clips of them running counter just
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: like right out the Patriots or getting stuff in the
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and Devon Godshaw like the tweet, so
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: obviously the Patriots felt. Yeah, the Patriots felt like, why
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: are you running right at us? Right? Like? This is
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: not you know, gonna be a good formula for you.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: And and that's really how the game played out. Especially,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I thought that the Dolphins on first down ran the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: ball a ton, like they were trying to run the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: football in this game, and the Patriots were just not
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: having any of it. And I just can't believe that
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: that was the think that they were doing that to
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: protect the quarterbacks, of course to a degree, sure, but
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: like you can protect the quarterbacks by throwing the ball
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. Also, right, you know, you
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: send Hill in motion and you flip it out to him.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Is that a hard throw for the quarterback to make?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And Mike McDaniel was here in twenty twenty with San
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Francisco and Jimmy Garoppolo through I think it was nine
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: passes behind the line of scrimmage that gained eleven yards
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: on average per attempt on just end around type of throws. Right,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you just motioned the receiver out into the formation, into
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the why part of the formation, and you set up
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: a screen on that side of the field or something
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: like that, and you just run the football essentially with
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: your receivers. And that's what the Niners did in that
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: game at nauseum, and it worked to professionally. Do you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: think that McDaniel or you know whoever, they saw a
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: lighter box and said, you know, let's try to do
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: let's try to run it, and the Patriots were able
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to still stop it, even you know, with the extra
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: backs on the field. Maybe I just I think that
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: there was an element of this game where to your point,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, I think overthought it, honestly, where maybe that
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: he looked at the three and four safety packages the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Patriots are going out there with, he looked at the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: depleted secondary. You know that you're missing the rookie Jones
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: is you're missing Jalen Mills and we have Tyreek killing
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, and we think that we can just beat
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you on the outside in this game. But they're running
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: vertical concepts with those guys and they're trying to get
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the ball down the field, and there were a few
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: opportunities where they could have gotten it down the field,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: but Bridgewater just didn't trust himself to hit the you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the hit the holes in the zone coverage, and the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Patriots just basically said, hey, we're gonna run cover two
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and if he's gonna hit it in the cover two
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: hole along the sideline on a dot to Tyree Hill
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna beat us like that, then so be it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: But we don't think he can do it, and he didn't.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: He didn't even try, So if that's the game plan,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I just thought that from a Mike McDaniel standpoint, Tyree
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: killing Jalen Waddle did not have the ball in their
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: hands nearly enough in this game. They just if you're
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, those are by far your two best players,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: especially when your quarterback is out. And the fact that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: they only touched the ball I think eight or nine
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: times in this one is a detriment to the coach.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: And you look at the touchdown that they scored with TYRK.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Hill was on one of those motions swing it out
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: into the into the boundary and and let him out
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: run everybody to the pylon. And then that was pretty
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: much the only time they even tried to do that. Okay,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: all right, Paul signed, gazing off into I was watching
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the commercials Okay, sorry, every time the footage comes up
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: just from the game, it's I know, didn't I tell
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, just getting stuck watching it. Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: So so Patriots, you know, pulled back to five hundred
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: with the win, and we'll see what happens. You know,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I listen. I you know, I know we're not going
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to talk about the Bills game. But I before last night,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I was hoping that the Bills had something to play
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: for and that they come out, you know, needing to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: win the game and just you know, let's play a
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: game like that rather than you know, Patriots won. But
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you know I hate that. Yeah, now you got it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: There's no way around I mean, unless this game has
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: played two weeks out, if it's played Sunday, I don't
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, like you said, I don't even
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: know how Buffalo can turn the page. And you know
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: tomorrow is supposed to be day one. I mean, they're
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: probably supposed to be in the building today getting the game.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: But both such a unique sport. You know, it's why
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you can't really have a Pro Bowl game because you
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: can't play it. You know, like, how do you if
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: you're a Patriot line somebody up and hit him as
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: hard as you can with with what happened, you know
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: what I mean, It's just like like I'm gonna just
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: demolish you. Wait a minute, it's somebody I forget. A
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: former player tweeted out I'm not sure might have been
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Ryan Clark, but just said, like the next snap of
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: football is going to be the hardest one. It is
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, and you know I agree with that,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and once you get going, you'll get back into it.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: But I mean it's you know, even just a movie
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: talking about it here, and Paul was mentioned in you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: an incident in baseball where this kind of thing, right,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you know, can happen, and you know, even me with
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a kid in little league, it's you know, I think
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it just affects everybody. It's bigger than football. It's not
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: just a football you know unique thing. These are, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: kind of injuries and things that can happen. It's just
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: about any sports, right circumciance. With the amount of sports
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: that are played in the United States, from youth all
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the way to pro the amazing thing is this doesn't
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: happen more often. Yeah, I mean it does happen. Literally
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: lacrosse a Kidden Cornell died with a direct hit from
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: a ball to his chest. You know, it happens. But
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: like with all the sports we play in this country,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: like the fact that it doesn't happen more often. Were
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: you ever scared with your tennis fourhand that you were
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: gonna take well, other people were, yeah, my curse coming out.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: But uh no, But like you know, so like like
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like what, like I'm sure there's counseling
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: that's available to players and everything like that, but you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it's important that they understand that, like this isn't just
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: because of football. This is because of you know, we're
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: human beings and we're not meant to take direct hits.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: And like Paul, you know you would say and you
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: know your wife is a nurse at MGAU and asked general,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and like these happen because like the impact comes at
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: this like it's a blunt force that exactly the moment
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: when something's firing inside and it just it's like an
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: electrical short circuit. And it does happen in Little league baseball.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And I won't say like every year, but like you
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: hear about it every every couple of years as a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: port Like eleven year old kid takes a fastball in
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the chest and they have less protection at the worst time.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: They don't have the muscle protection that you know in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you know, Mike and I were talking about it. This
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: is why all little league fields now are equipped with
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the you know, the devices to to see if you know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you can prevent a tragedy when it does happen, because
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: it can happen. Yeah, and you talked about lacrosse. It
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: happens too often, you know. But I know this is
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be this is gonna be a tough week for football.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And I know that's not anybody on anybody's importance you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: know right now, of any of any importance right now.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: But you watch you watch how the next few days, Yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it'll be the attack on football again, right, you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: so like like you said, the next snap is going
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to be the toughest one for whoever is involved. That's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you know, that's absolutely true, you know, especially with it,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it just looked like such a routine play, Like you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: have to watch it over and be like, wait, what
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: even happened? And it's just it was it was It's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a freak thing. You know. It wasn't like a concussion
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: where oh yeah you got hit in the head or
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: its head hit the ground or whiplash or whatever. It
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: was just a freak, you know, um getting hit by
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: lightning type of thing. You know. So can I can
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I shine a little positive light on Kyle Dugger? I
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: don't know, I just want to shift gears maybe a
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: little bit, all right. I just was feeling, you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: third touchdown this year, and you know, I know I've
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: been up and down on him a little bit this
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: year with some of the inconsistencies and coverage, But um,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I just I thought it was interesting Jude On saying
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to give Dugger a blank check, and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, that's the last thing the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Patriots want to hear right now. But you know, I think, uh,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you know, Paul was talking about this a little bit too.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Just I think, you know, you're starting to see some
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: young players come on a little bit here, and you know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: we talked about free agency, and you know, is that
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I part of me just wants to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like reinvest in our own guys. And I just I'm
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: kind of getting sick. As much as I've been a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: little bit on I don't want to say on the fence,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: but a little bit critical of of Dugger's overall game,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it makes me sick to think about letting a player
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: like that get away again, you know, and and that's
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and those are the things like and you know, j
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: not quite the same for me, Like I feel like
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: he's still a very specific third down kind of role,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: which you know, generally you could probably find from you know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and Andre Carter or is you know you got to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: get a vent in for one year, Chris Long those
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: kind of guys. But you know, I just I just
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: wonder overall the feeling of these drafts haven't been good enough.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Like a way that you can kind of force that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: issue is by resigning the players. They gotta pay somebody. Yeah,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you know, you spent a second round pick on duggerum
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and he's panned out like, Okay, that was a good pick. Yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's what you know the notebook that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I posted, but I don't know if it's up yet, um,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: but you know, for this morning, you know, there is
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: at least put the playoffs on the back burner and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: whether or not you think that they they're worthy or
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you know, that's irrelevant. You know, you went from having
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think four draft classes in succession where I think
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you got Damien Harris that's it. Now the last three
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: years again there might not be any Pro Bowl like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: all pro you know, Hall of Fame type players, but
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it's now dugger ouch when you in twenty and you know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: obviously the three guys from last year with mac barmore
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and Stevenson and you know, we'll see about this year.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: But you know, Marcus Jones is already playing a huge
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: role for you and we'll see about the rest of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the guys because there's been a lot of other guys
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: that have made contributions at least and you know, on
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a short term basis. Yeah, you know, Marcus Jones has
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: been consistently a contributor. Now for the last three quarters
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: of the season, you know. So we'll see about Jack Jones,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: we'll see about the two running backs, Kevin Harris and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Pierre Strong. If they can, they can be part of it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But that's how you get out of this. Yeah, you
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: can't get out of it by spending two hundred and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: seventy million guaranteed money in free agency, right right. The
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: only way you can get out of it just by
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: stacking draft classes. And I think they've had a you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: three in a row now that I'm not telling you
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that it's like the seventy four Steelers, but you've had
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: three in a row now that you've gotten contributors out
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of ye. Tugger is an awesome player. I know that
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: he gets some flack for the man coverage stuff and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: every once in a while he gets a little bit
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: loose in his zone, but the amount of hats that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they ask him to wear in this defense, he's the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: most versatile player in the defense by far, and he
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: does all of them at at least a starting caliber level,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: like not necessarily elite at everything. I think he still
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: has some stuff that he needs to work out in coverage,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you know, some instinctual stuff in terms of man technique
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and maybe reading out route combinations and things like that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: in zone. But that takes time to develop those types
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: of skills and takes experience, and maybe that can be
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the last frontier of his game that comes and rounds
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: into form. But in terms of run defense, where he
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: can play in the run defense blitzing, and then the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: ball hawking in zone when they do allow him to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: kind of roam in the middle and zone, he's just
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: been a really impactful player at all three levels of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the defense. You bring up a good point too, because
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: if you listen to the way his teammates talk about him,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: it makes it seem like he hasn't even scratched the surface. King. Yeah,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I mean you don't want him being that he's safety
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that's in the back of the defense, because he's just
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: too valuable up up close. I'd though, but who replaces mccordy.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Does he replace mccordy. Yeah, I thought it was, But
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting to listen to Bill earlier
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: in the week, I think on the Monday. Yeah, say,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: we've seen him at free a lot. Well, he talks
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: about free free. So he played free safety at Lenore
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Ryan and they were for the most part a split
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: safety defense, so they played a lot of quarters, which
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: is different than playing center field obviously, so it's it's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a different role. But I've always
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: loved his ability to really ball hawk in the back end,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and I've always felt like when they put him on
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a tight end, for example, and I get, somebody's got
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: to cover the tight end when you're gonna play as
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: much man coverage as the Patriots do, but I thought
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: it really it boxes him in right where he can't
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: be around the football, and he's at his best when
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: he's allowed to just go see ball, get ball, And
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: when they make him guard the tight end, it turns
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: him into like Patrick right where he's just got the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: tight end and the rest of the of the play
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily matter to him as much. But when they're
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: allowing him to be that free player in the middle
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: of the defense, he's a much more impactful. I think
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the guy that they are trying to get him to
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: emulate is more like Rodney Harrison, who's somebody that wasn't
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: really a guy that went one on one with the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: tight end a whole lot. Don't don't tell that to
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Ernie Adams. Yeah, he did. Arnie Adams say he told us,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: he told us the games in which they wouldn't have
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: won unless Rodney Harrison went one on one with their interesting. Okay,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I definitely trust Ernie a little bit more than me
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: on this, But I will say that I always remember
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison being a guy that that had his eyes
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: in the backfield for most of the time, right, Yeah,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And that was sort of the player that he was,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and that was at an era when strong safety was
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: really a thing. Now strong safety is not really as
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: much of a thing anymore, so it's different. But I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: think that that's really what I think Dugger is at
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: his best is when he's instinctively just being an athlete,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: whether that's dropping in zone or blitzing or playing the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: run or whatever. When they asked him to play man
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: coverage on tight ends, I just don't feel like his
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: impact on the game is as much as it can
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: be when he's allowed to see the football all the time,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: because then you get the turnovers and you get the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: tackles for loss in the run game, and he had
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: some good run sticks in this game as well. It
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: wasn't just the pick six. He was coming downhill him,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and they don't want to lose that. Yeah,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: all right, eight five five Pass five hundred is the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: ACE ticket. Hut Line web radio at patriot dot com
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: is the email address. I will open it up to callers.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Some programming notes though, Catch twenty two is gonna be
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: tomorrow Thursday. We moved the Thursday before this show, so
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: ten thirty Thursday, leading up into PU so it'll be
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: our lead in, but it'll be on video. It'll be
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: on video. Yeah, and then we'll be on video too.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, So that's they're just wanted to hopefully,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: i mean, assuming everything gets, you know, back on track
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: at some point. Yeah. All right, Um, let's go to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the callers and emailers. I'm sure people have things they
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: want to talk about. Sean's in Vancouver, what's up, Sean?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: All right? To Marry you were commenting, and I saw
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the same thing when I was watching my not Tomorrow.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no worries, oh my god, but it seemed like, yeah,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it's kind of routine. And Paul, you were mentioning how
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: this happens in other sports, and I've heard that as
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: well with baseballs, and uh, it just seems so so
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: crazy because I've never seen that before in the NFL,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: That's right, Is this just like just a crazy weird
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: like you said, strike, lightning strikes. You know this at
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: this very moment, because it did. I couldn't see anything
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that that really was out of the unordinary, Right, Yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: it was. That's why, like you know, um, they've taught
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: who was a Jerry Hughes they were talking about who
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: had a heart attack and died after the game. I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: think that was nineteen seventy one. That was fifty years ago. Um,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: we've never seen this. I mean, everybody that was on
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: TV last night, Aikman, Booger, you know, everybody. It's like
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: we've we've never seen this before, you know, Um, it
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: is it's it's it's a it's a rare thing, uh,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: that we witnessed. And that's kind of what rattles us
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: is that we don't see this a lot. We see
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the guys that you know, they get the head injury
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and they can't move their feet and we're waiting for
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: them to, you know, move something. We see that like
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: what at least once a season because they're willing them off.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: So we've almost become numb to that, but this is different.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: You know, to see someone being given CPR on the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: field is a traumatic thing. Like this person could die
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: right in front of me. You know, that's a traumatic thing.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: And I know things like like Hank Gathers remember him
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and yeah that was yeah, and Reggie Lewis, But weren't
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: those heart conditions that were like it wasn't just like
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: totally differently, they were different. And Reggie happened in practice,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you know, And so we didn't shooting around. Yeah, no,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: we didn't see it live on TV. You know. Condition
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: this is just yeah, out of the blue. Yeah, you know.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: On another topic, we've talked a lot about how much
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: we think there should be done in the offseason for
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the offense in terms of coaching and the offensive line,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. But a little bit less attention is on
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: special teams, and I think that needs to be dressed
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: as well. Changes on special teams. So what are some
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: of the things you'd like to see in terms of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: maybe essence for a coach for special teams. You already
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: got him, he's on this team right now. You think
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: he'll be good enough to do that? Like then, I
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: guess he's done it. He was the coordinator, you know, yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and they and the numbers were good when he was
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: you know, for special teams, you know, a lot of
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's just dumb mistakes. It's running
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: into the punter twice already, that that really costs them.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: We are so in the margins when this stuff is
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: an impact though, Like that that's the thing. And like
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's not a factor, because it
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: certainly is a factor. But the fact that every single
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: time they run into the punter, it's like this huge
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: issue that they can't overcome, is like a much bigger
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: issue than money into the punter, right, Okay, Like you know,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: fourth and six becomes fourth and one and they gave
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: up the first down. Now, the defense ended up getting
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the stop on that drive. They didn't give up a
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: score on that drive. But like these are things that
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: like I think it's worse in Minnesota, for example, when
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: they when they ran into the punter at the end
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: of the game there, Like the defense can't get a
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: stop in the offense can't answer. Like that's a bigger
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: problem to me than the one play that happens on
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: special teams. It's just we're so every little thing needs
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to go right, you know, And and they can't have
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: these like mistakes like that in the kicking game because
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: they're already taking on water in these games as it is,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and these mistakes just bury them even further down underneath
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the surface. And that's a problem. That's that's that's the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: bigger point, is the inability to overcome mistakes. And I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: would say, what's the trajectory of the punter and the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: kicker too, Like, what what are we looking at with
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Nick Folk? Is he in a slump? Is this is
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the end approaching for him? And Jake Bailey? Was this
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: an injury thing? They paid him a bunch of money,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: you know? Is this something that's been happening and he
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: gets healthy, he'll be okay back on track. Or is
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: that something else you have to explore it to get around.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously bigger than than coaching. Just
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: comes another kicker in the fifth round, Thanks Sean all Right,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Todds to North Carolina. Hey, Todd Wasser, So I was
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: going to start going all Perillo saying, you know, look
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: what they do on the field. You're supposed to make
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: a up quarterback look like a like a backup quarterback,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and they didn't do that with Bridgewater really well. Blah
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: blah blah. And I was gonna bust Evan for some
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: stat stuff, but I don't want me to say Evan's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: right and see what he did with the Raiders when
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you give him some tools, what's going on this? We're
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: not gonna know what mac is until he gets some tools,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I'd like. I know, we like to think that he
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: has them, but he doesn't. For God's sake, stud him
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: can play that well against one of the best defenses
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Okay, but it was one game, you know,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: so I think the better examples Brock really, to be
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: honest with you, like ither one of them are on him.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I'm all for this call because it supports me, But
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I think the better argument is Brock Purdy right, like
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: he's been doing this for a month now, and they
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: drop him in the same offense and Jimmy G. Also,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: let's face it, Jimmy G is not this like tools.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: He Josh Allen justin Herbert Cyborg and they play him
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: in that offense, and that offense is a top five,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: top ten offense with Jimmy in there. Every single year,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: every single year. They have great offense in San Francisco
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: with Jimmy And that's what I've been saying all along.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Now the Niners are they're a very difficult bar to reach, right, Like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: they have great playmakers, they have great scheme, all that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But at the same time, you know
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that that's well, that's going to be the different Todd
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: is you know, are we able to fairly judge Mac
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Jones this year? I think I don't think we are
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: right now. I really feel we are, and I don't know.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people agree with I mean,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I would agree basically with Todd, but I also would
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: say that not every team gets Davante Adams, you know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, yes, you need good weapons, and that's
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: been a hindrance for Mac. But at the same time,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: like you still have to be able to make things
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: happen when those guys, because it's like to premier, I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: don't I don't even want Davonte Adams. That's like, just
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: give me somebody who's consistent, you know, somebody who's better
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: than number sixteen. Number sixteen for us is amazing. He's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: like yeah, but he's not. He's a third he's your
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: third on the depth chart, he's your consistent if Adams. Yeah, yeah,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: But I think his point is is that it doesn't
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: even need to reach of Davante Adams level. Higgins would
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: be the number one, Right, you have so little that
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you can't even judge the quarterback. And yeah, we don't
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: have the best that maybe a top five receiver in
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the game, but we still have enough to know that
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: our quarterback is pretty good and can make things work
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: with guys that maybe aren't the most elite guys. But
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I agree with your point, Todd. I mean, I think
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that it is below the pail of you know, how
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: much you need to be able to give a guy.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not. I'm not saying this as a
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: detriment of Jacobe Myers, because I think he's a good player,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and this is more about the roster construction. But if
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you took every single team's leading receiver one through thirty two, like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: where does Myer's rank in that conversation, it's definitely in
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the bottom half. Like I know, agree, it might even
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: be bottom five, right, So, so he's a very low
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: end number one receiver with the Patriots. So I'm not
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: even asking them to go out and get Davante Adams
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: or to go out and get Jamar Chase or someone
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: like that. But I look at these teams last night
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: before what obviously happened, and you just look at when
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati was here, and like te Higgins would be the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: best receiver on the Patriots roster, and he's this number
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: two guy in Cincinnati. Gabriel Davis might be the number
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: one guy in New England if he was here, and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: he's the number two guys to find Diggs in Buffalo.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: So you have you start to get down the order
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: of those teams that have good offenses. You know, Miami
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: comes in here with two number one receivers and you
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: know if you had a top flight receiver on the Patriots,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: it would MIAs would be even better. Yeah, it would
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: make him better. You know. I just think that, you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the ultimately, the thing that I always say with Mac
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: is that there's enough good there on film with him,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: especially in recent weeks, Like I would say, since really
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: thanks give except maybe in Buffalo. But in that game,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I think it was more the game plan was to
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: throw the ball shot and it just didn't really work.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: But I think from Thanksgiving on. There was enough there
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: to not necessarily say that he's going to be this
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: great franchise, long term answer quarterback, but to go into
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: year three thinking that we, you know, let's get let's
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: let's see what we got with him in year three.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: And now these people that want to just give up
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: on him and right now after two seasons, I think
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: are rushing to judgment. I mean, you know, it would
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: be great to be a fly on the wall in
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the quarterback room or when they're doing film, because what
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: we're not seeing the evident mistakes that we've saw earlier,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: but we don't know what he's missing. Oh I know
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: what he's missing. Yeah, I'm not in the meetings, but
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I can see it on the film. And like there's
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: decisions from this last game against the Dolphins where I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: thought he struggled once Miami adjusted to zone and they
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: adjusted to zone, and his reads are the short part
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: of the field were iffy against zone. You know, you're
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: running like snag concepts where Nelson aglor is running a
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: hook and then you're running a receiver into the flat
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and you're just trying to read out where does the
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: zone dropper go? Does he go with the flatter, does
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: he stay inside and you throw where he isn't right
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and it's there to Nelson aglore and he just makes
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the wrong read. And that's those types of things give
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: me concerns more so than I think. Where I come
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: from with it is that a lot of people's concerns
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: with mac Jones are number one, like raw talent, right,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: just raw arm talent and tools, and then number two
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and boomers. Sison went on EI yesterday what he said
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: it was kind of unfair. Yeah, but this ultimately to me,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Fred is such a big part of this mac Jones discourse,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: and that is that people just don't like, Yeah, he's
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: just his aesthetic is bad. He doesn't have swagger, his
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: body language is bad. You know when he has a
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: bad play, it looks really ugly and you know, they
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: blitz up the middle and he can't get out of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the blitz and then he's kind of you know, flailing
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: around on the intentional grounding last week, and people are
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: just like, it's just it just ugly, right, right, But
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: when you actually take out of it, the the aesthetic
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of it and how it looks, you know, what what
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: what what is? What is it? How did we get here, like,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: what's the mistake on the play? Right? Like? What why?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: What's the mistake? Is the mistake that the quarterback missed
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the read? Either the quarterback held the ball too long,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: or is it that on third and one they called
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: play action in the landon Roberts was in the backfield
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: in a half a second? Right, Like, where's the mistake
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: on the play? And I think more times than not,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: there's a lot more times where I would say there's
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: mistakes happening that are out of his control. And then
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that's that's what I don't know, right, Yeah, And that's
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: what I think. You know, fans don't know, and they're
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they're they're going in with the bias, and you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: if they don't like Mac to begin with, then it's
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: his mistake. If you don't like Matt Patricia, it's I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: don't think there were too many people that entered the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: year not like me Mac. I think everybody was pretty
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: much an agreement solid rookie year, something to build on.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: He's the guy for the future, and I think a
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: lot of people have changed their opinions. I don't think
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: it's a predisplay. I think dislike of Mac. I think
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: um I think there were both. I think there were
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of people on the fence, and then those
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: people on the fence have now picked a side. You know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think Zappi's performance is really and that didn't
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: help there. Yeah, that didn't help Mac getting helped off
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the field. That didn't help either, which time, Yes, he
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: wants to be starting. Everybody doesn't even what's your take then?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just wish that I played under those circumstances.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Everything I did right, it was me. Everything I did
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: wrong was because I was putting a bad business. But
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: that's not what Evans said. That's kind of what people say,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: like third and one, like, okay, bad play call. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: called that that was part of my bad list on Sunday, right.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I thought that was herrific. Evan and I talked about
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it live during the game. Yeah, not allowed to try
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to like make something out of the play. But but okay,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: so every quarterback's going to make mistakes, and you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the younger you are, probably the more mistakes you are.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I think the question that people are asking is if
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the other things were okay, then I think I could
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: have anybody playing quarterback. I go back to the Belichick things. Yeah,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: if as long as I have a guy with a
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: reasonable amount of ability and intelligence, I'm going to do
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: all the work for him, and I can be brock
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: purty to it. I just think that right now. The
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: biggest thing to me, like the third and one, like
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: what do you want him to do? Like Landon Roberts
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: is I hate? I hate. I'm not defending that anything
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: about that place, right I just don't know what you
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: want him to do there. But I just don't think
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that he can overcome anything that goes bad. That's my point. Okay,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: But you know, the ball to Hunter Henry, He's got
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Jayleen Phillips like right in his face and he throws
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: it right staring down the barrel. And I didn't say
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: he's incapable of making any place. I just think that
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: those types of plays happen more than people give him
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: credit for, because I think a lot of people are
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: just out on him, and I think a lot of
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: people have already made up their mind. I think a
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: lot of people like Dani Rolovski, who can continues to
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: bang the drum, I think out of pure hatred of Matt.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Patricia from Detroit is calling these plays out like this,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: guy can't play. I mean, oh, okay, now I get it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: If you make three NFL caliber throws, everybody that is
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: down on him is wrong, I get it. I mean, like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: so like you say that, like people will predisposed to
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: not like him. I'm not predisposed to not like him.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I'm unsure of whether or not he could be a
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Yeah, I am too, but that's that's not
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: a predisposition. I think there are a lot of guys
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that are predisposed to think that he's the man, right,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: because that's what they thought coming out of college. He
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: was the most NFL ready. That's the way that they
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: all viewed him. And now, no matter what happens, it's
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the structures full I think for those people, like even
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: those people that said he the most NFL ready said,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: but he's got a ceiling. But he's got a ceiling,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and now those people like, yeah, but the things that
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: we thought that he had going for him, which was
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the accuracy, the recognition, you know, we're not seeing that,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: you know, and so yeah, I mean I think that's
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: why I don't think you've seen pois. But I think
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the accuracy is still. I thought, like that's throw that
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Evan's talking about. To Hunter him that was a great throw.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Was I still see for the most part or pretty
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: accurate paths. That's why I always that's why I keep
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: going back to the structure and the coaching of things,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: because accuracy, timing, anticipation, processing, mental processing, these restraints on
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: his rookie tape. Right, So, like, did he all of
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: a sudden forget how to play football? No, of course, not,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: like he didn't just forget how to read an underneath
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: zone overnight or in one offseason or something like that.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know why how you get there that all
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: of a sudden. Now you know, he reads out a
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: trips formation and he's throwing to the wrong guy. I
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: don't know how we got there. But with McDaniels last year,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: that ball is to Nelson Aglore. Right now, the ball
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: is to Jacoby Meyers in double coverage. Like, I don't
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: know how we made it to that point. But that's
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: why I'm always harping on the fact that, Okay, if
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: we come in next year and I'm not asking for
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Davante Adams and Kyle Shanahan, like, can we just give
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: him some semblance of solid foundation to work with and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: then he is still failing, then we can have the
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: conversation of let's let's move on or let's find something better.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: But I'm willing to at least give him next year.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: That's not to say that I'm convinced. I'm willing. There's
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: no way I'm pulling the plug after two years. Like no, Like,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I think these guys have to be bad guys off
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: the field and sabotage a locker room to not get
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: three years as for a first round quarterback. I mean, yeah,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you have to give him another year. Yeah, I mean
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: comparing last year to this year, Like, I thought Mac
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: was okay last year. Um, I think that he was
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: protected in in the way that they ran their offense,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and I think he had Josh McDaniels last year. Um,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you know you asked, like, what what happened? Where? How
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: do we get where we are? Well, the thing that's
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: changed is is who his coordinator is and who is
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's that. That's a fact, But it doesn't look
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: into any of the wise that Evan's talking about. Now.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I think Evan and I would probably disagree on some
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: of the wise. I look at last year, there was
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: a steady decline the second half of the season with
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the almighty Josh McDaniels College. And I agree, And I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: think that had at least something to do with the
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: fact that opposing defense has started to realize that's what
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: he could and couldn't do. That's right, they got tape
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: on him. And you know, I keep repeating it, but
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: it you know, it's true. The Patriots were easy to defend.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: They said that last year, not this year. Last year
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: they said still, they're a lot easier to defend this ship. Right.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: But what my point is that, you know, we talk about, oh,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: he had this great rookie season, and for a rookie quarterback,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: he did. And that's another part of it. I think
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: some of the same kinds of like I think you
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: would have looked at a game like they were still
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: easy to defend. I think you would have looked at
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a game like Sunday as a fantastic game for him
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: last year because of the throws that Evan's talking about
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: right now, You're expecting more, right, like moving the ball
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and scoring points. I'm a real hard greater. If you
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: can do those things, I'll tell you that I think
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you played well. Yeah, and they don't do those things.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: More often than not, they don't move it and they
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: don't score. I think consistency is the last frontier for him,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: right because he had and that's what I wrote, and
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: after further review this week, is that I can make
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: a hitting the mic and everything Bill Belichick for here,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I can make the I can make a cut up
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: of him throwing the ball down the field with great
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: accuracy and timing or what pffles to call big time throws,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: which right now he's got twenty one of them on
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the year. He's actually top five in how in rate
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: of big time throws. Because he missed some games, he
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: can't really go buy the raw total. And if I
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: told you that Mac Jones is throwing one of those
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: big time downfield NFL passes, if you want to call
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: him that, as often as Aaron Rodgers is, oh, I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: believe that. Well, Aaron Rodgers top five in the stat too.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I believe Aaron Rodgers took the first twelve weeks off
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: or or is as often you know, as Josh Allen
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: leads the league in the stat and is fractions ahead
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: of Mac Jones. You would probably tell me I'm crazy,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: But that's That's that's the fact, right, That's like what
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: we're seeing. The problem is is that he has these
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: stretches like the middle two quarters on Sunday where the
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: consistency isn't there and he's not hitting layups, right, So
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I think that the downfield throws are great, but you
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: gotta be able to consistently hit the layups on first.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: And I would also like, you know, to cherry pick
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: a stat like that and say that he's up there
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: with the best in the game while not acknowledging that, like, well,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: their offenses is so much better, Like I mean, the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Bills have punted like a third of the times that
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: the Patriots have punted this year. So yeah, maybe Josh
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Allen isn't always making it with deep throws or whatever.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: The big time throws a big time thing, That's what
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, though maybe it's not always big time throws,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: but they're always moving the ball and they're always productive.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And when they do that step, did they take in
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the consideration the attempts, Like, Okay, so he's got twenty
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: one big time throws, what's the percentage of attempts there?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: His percentage, his percentage, the rate of which he does.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: It is big time throws overpass attempts, right, So to me,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the issue isn't The issue isn't the high level throws
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: down the field. Like he can do that all right,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: He did it on Sunday, He did it in the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: second half against Cincinnati. The issue is right now with
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: him is the layups, right, Like hitting Hunter Henry in
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the flat and it's first and ten and if you
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: hit Hunter Henry in the flat, it's now second and four,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: but it's incomplete, so now it's second and ten, right,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: or that Agalore example I gave you, Like these throws
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: are the ones to Paul's point, these throws are the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: ones that continue drives, like these are drive starting throws,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: or these are throws that keep you in second and
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: third and manageables to continue to move the football down
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the field. And that's where you get into three and
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: out right. It's it's stuff to run on first down, incomplete,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: on second down, incomplete, on third down, punt right because
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: third downs now third and nine right every single time
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: because you're not converting on first and second. So he's
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: got to do a better job on early downs of
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: making those easy throws. No doubt about it, and a
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: lot of that I think came in the short part
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of the field in this last game. But that that,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: to me is his last frontier. It's just the consistency
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: on seeing it and accurately putting the ball on receivers
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: every single time he drops back the past. When there's
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: openings in the defense. It's not always going to be open,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: but when there are openings in the defense, you gotta
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: hit the bunnies, and he's missing too many of those
• 53:09
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• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: two guys from the practice squad and sit him? Can
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I run my thing by Evan see if? Yeah? Maybe
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Evan just Um in this particular game. Yeah. With the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the stature of the Dolphins wide receivers, small quick guys,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I don't really that's not Sean Wade. I don't know.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: The larger answer is I don't know. But philosophical ques
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I wasn't completely stunned to see him, Oh, because I
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: said to myself, where does he fit against the liability
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: on the field? Yeah? Yeah, Now the liability, I don't
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: think every time they put him on the field, he
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: gets burned every single time. I don't think he could play.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: That's the bigger picture. But if they had bigger receivers,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I could understand them saying, well, we got no choice,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: we gotta put them out. Oh yeah, that's totally fair.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: He played one snap against Cincinnati, gave up a touchdown,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: correct one snap, one touchdown against Minnesota pretty much the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: same thing. Wasn't a touchdown, but he got be coming
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: across the field by Justin Jefferson on the like play
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: like six snaps. But but if you're playing eight percent zone,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't that Isn't that a little safer for him? I suppose.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I just when I look, it's I think he's played
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: eighteen defensive stabs, so it's a very low failed experiment.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: But I think when I watch him playing, take a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: flyer on the guy doesn't look like an NFL player
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: to me. But they give up for him a fifth round. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I just And I'm not killing him for it because
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: it's a minor deal. But when a team like Baltimore
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: gets rid of him, gets rid of him in his
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: rookie training camp, it tells me there's something special negatively
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: working against that guy Baltimore. Baltimore is not a team
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: that is poor in their talent evaluations. There's some teams
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: that are like for them to pull the you know,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: the Raiders have had a litany of high draft picks
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: that they've cut first and second year, like they've missed,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it be for character reasons or otherwise.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Baltimore is not one of those teams. So when Baltimore
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: was ready to pull the plug on a I think
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. Yeah, a fifth round pick coming
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: out of his rookie training camp. That's that's like unprecedented.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's so weird with Sean Way two. So his
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: timeline at Ohio State in twenty nineteen, he was a
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: shutdown slot for them that people. I know, there's some
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: things out there that said he was gonna be first
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: round pick. He wasn't. He was gonna be a top
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: one hundred pick. He would have been taken on Day two,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: but he was a good prospect. He comes back to
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Ohio State in twenty twenty and they had to play
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: him on the outside because they just didn't have anybody
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: out there and they had to move him outside. He
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: gets injured, and then DeVante Smith took his lunch money
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: in the National Championship Game and he falls to the
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: fifth round. And I think that the thought for everybody
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: when they acquired him was well, if they can get
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen player, then then maybe they have som right.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: But I think what ultimately ended up happening and what
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: has shown on the field is that that national championship
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: game against Davonte Smith showed you what he looked like. Again,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: it's an NFL receiver and that is a non competitive
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: So that's a Speaking of college, we didn't really mention
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: any of the playoff games that happened over the weekend.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about Paul didn't get a
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: good look at those ones. No, he was predisposing your
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: TV like I did. Yeah, that's only would do that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: at someone's wedding. Friend, It's only a special kind of
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: person that would bring a TV to someone's wedding. I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: only used it during the reception. It was my wedding. Ce.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Do you take this woman? So I saw the first
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: half of the Michigan TCU game and that's it. Yeah,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: you know. So the good news is, you know, it
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't like they were two good games or anything that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I meant. Do you think that this Georgia quarterbacks any good? Yeah?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: First away years old. Yeah, we don't have agesm here.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I mean that's fine, But I'm saying, like Jackson, I know,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: what about the Michigan kid. We got a soft spot
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: from Michigan, you guys around here. No, the TCU quarterbacks
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: growing on me. A little bit. Don't let Barth hear
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: that though, because I've been bashing the kid all year.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: But he's a gamer. Yeah no, I don't think so.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: But probably he'll probably end up being a Day three
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: pick just because of the playoff performance. Someone would keep
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: him around as a third stringer because he's yeah it's scrappy. Yeah,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: now they're receiver. Quinton Johnson's going to be a first
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: round pick. And I have tons of reservations about him
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: here just because he's not a route runner. He's not
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: somebody that is going to create a ton of separation.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: But he runs away from people and he won't fit
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: in here. That's not it's not what we need. I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: don't care for your tone. He's a he's a beast.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Uh Now, he's a good player, kind of Mike Evans.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I like that team. I like that team is uh.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I think they have more talent than they're given credit for.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I think they're like this scrap they get a shot.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: They're a big twelve team. It's not like, yeah, you
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: know that they're you know, coming out of nowhere. They
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: they're they're pretty good. Somebody I was listen to somebody
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: on the radio, some old guy, and he's like, you know,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: in the business, not not just a talking head, uh caller,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, oh, TCU's definitely got
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: a shot. They're bigger and faster than Georgia. Definitely Georgia. Yeah,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I mean that's George's thing is they beat the hell
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: out of you. They might be faster. I think TCU
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: has a chance in a shootout against Georgia because I
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: think they have the better offense. But that Georgia defense,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: their defensive line is like some NFL teams, if you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: swapped down Georgia's defensive line, they'd probably improve. But it's
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is one of the best prospects on the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: D line in a why it's amazing that they lost
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: like the entire defense, Yeah, and just turned it over
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: to a unit that's every bit as good. Yeah. Oh
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: and the Kirby's a great he's great on that side
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: of the ball too. Try to get him for a
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: coach's clinic. Is that coming back over those back last year? Yeah,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: he's a Belichick guy. Yeah. Yeah, you get the Holy
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Cross guys coming back. Oh he's there, then he's out.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Then he's a Belichick guy who Yeah, he'll ask Bill
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: holy Cross will be there. Well, to that point, a
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: lot of what Georgia runs, we run here. So when
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Kirby goes to these coaching clinics and stuff and they
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: put it on YouTube, I always watched his presentations because
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: he's just breaking down the Patriots defense for everybody. So yeah,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Bill might might say no to that. All right. Five
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: hotline web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Let's get to some of the emails. Excuse me at
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: web radio at Patrios dot com. Tyler writes in UM,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I was hoping you guys could explain this new forward
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: progress rule that stopped the fumble on the Dolphins first drive.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: So he's pretty neat and would have been nice if
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: it existed. When Romandres fumbled against the Bengals' terrible call, yep,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: terrible terrible call instant they were both It's very easy.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: One was a bad non call and one was a
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: bad call. No, I think this one was greediously bad call.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Like this. It was terrible for he. Mostert was he
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: got hit and kind of broke the first tackle and
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: got hit a second time. Right, It was just it
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: was not forward progress, not even close and it's very
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: easy when you see a bad call to call it out.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: You guys should take a lesson to that. Oh what ouch,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about. It's a bad call,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: this is what it was. Yeah, and it's not a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: new rule, A terrible, terrible call like it was as
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: bad a call as you'll see all year, Like Sarah
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Thomas not her shining moment, flipping coins on the sideline
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: on in and out of bounds. Um Sulman in the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Bay Area rites in. I watched the game live he's
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: talking about last night, of course, and it was very
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: scary to see an unfold. When I saw the look
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: on Diggs and Alan's face, I immediately knew this was dire.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: This was prior to Joe Buck announcing CPR was administered.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: I kept checking Twitter last night to see if there
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: are any updates. My thoughts are with Hamlin, his family
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: and teammates. Hard to turn the page and talk football,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: So I'll leave my thoughts from Sunday's game off for now. Yeah,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: well said, yep, it is. It's just a weird after
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: all the whole season and you feel like things are
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: kind of buildingto a climax. And now it's just I
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm in the you know, it's like appointment television.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Last and it really it looked like it was going
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: to be a good game. I started, you know, I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I started watching the game and I was, you know,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I was a little into it. And then you know, yeah,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: you have two of the best teams in football playing
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: late in the year. It's almost like you're saying, it's
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: a shame that they're playing now, Like I'd rather see
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: this game in like three weeks and like the conference
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: championship or something like that. You might, well, I don't
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: know about that now, but I like, I have serious
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: reservations of what this rest of the season is going
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: to look like, period for everybody, but especially Buffalo, alex
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: and Raleigh. First of all, prayers out to tomorrow Hamlin
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: and his family. My question for you all is about
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: the health safety about players. There's been a lot of
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: talk about the safety of players the last few years
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: and how there are efforts to make the game safer. However,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: given the amount of concussions, turf injuries, and what happened
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: last night, I don't recall a season where this was
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: this much of severe injuries around the league. In your opinion,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: do you think the game is getting safer? What can
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: be done to protect the players and their families who
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: suffered from the aftermath of playing wild careers? Again, this
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: particular thing that happened last night, it's not a football injury,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: and it's not those things that he's talking about are
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: actually all down. Yeah, just in terms of strict data
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: like concussions and whatnot, and the turf related injuries. You know,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: maybe that's wrong. Maybe they're the NFL is propaganding us,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: you know, like they want to do, but the numbers
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: say that they're down. Neil and New Brunswick has an
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: interesting I don't know the answer, he says. They were
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: saying one of the good things about Hamlin's injury was
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the stadium was only two miles from a Level one
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: trauma center. Has that ever been a concern until at stadium,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: which is sort of halfway between Boston Providence. That's interesting.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: There was there used to be a hospital in Norwood.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I think it. I think it went under though. That's yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: I mean they've got the whole medical center here now,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: but it's not Level one trauma. Yeah, there are hospitals
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: that are close and you're looking at a helicopter for Yeah,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: how quick would a flight med flight be to mash General.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: So Milford Milford Hospital is that level one. I don't
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: think any of those hospitals would have that kind of equipment.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: They do have the helicopter, get a med flight in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah. That Cincinnati hospital though, that that's a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: good place for him to be. That's a yeah, that's
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: one of the best hospitals in the country. Yeah. And
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I did see, you know, doctor Chow for the former Childers,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: who's really good at sort of diagnosing injuries off of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: tv UM, and he did make a point, and I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: heard a couple of doctors actually say similar things when
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I was watching the news later. And you said, obviously
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: not an ideal situation, but other than an actual hospital
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: where he collapsed, it is probably as good a place
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: as he could have possibly collapsed. Yeah, So medical professionals
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: all over the price with all with the proper equipment,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: properly trained, the people that were administering the CPR, you know,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: you know they've done it before. That could argue that
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: even some hospitals, it's probably better to happen on the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: field with some of the best of the best training
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: and medical stuff. Yep. So what did you guys think overall,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: like of the coverage Like ESPN, I think they did
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: the best they could do. I mean, I thought kind
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: of felt I actually was impressed. I thought they did
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: a really good job. It's hard and I could nitpick
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: a million different things that pretty much every one of
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: them said. Yeah, but I thought they did a pretty
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: good job on it. I'm glad they stuck with it
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: rather than all right, let's go to USC Women's volley.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I think you needed to because Pete, because
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: we're all like, we're living this with them, and yeah,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: we you know, as as a viewer, you want them
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: to stick with it. You know, you you're like, Okay,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I need to. The commercials were killing me. Yeah, and
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: I know why they were doing the same. Was it
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Susie Colber that came on then with with with Booger
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: McFarlane and want to I know, I know, I just
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I thought Hanger and Ryan Clark were really, really good.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: They were just like the raw emotion of a former player,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: and then Ryan Clark having the unique perspective of his
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: condition that premitted him for being able to play in Denver. Well,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I think Ryan Clark was amazing, Like Booker though, like
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I know you don't want to talk about it, but
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I know, I know you. And I thought Susie Colber
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: did a good job of just slowing it down and
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: you know, understanding he wasn't comfortable jumping right into something
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, it's just it's a really
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: difficult situation. And Schefter was, you know, he was I
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: would like he put the phone away. He was, like
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I could pick. He was neutralized though, like usually he's
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: the guy, okay, when you into Schefter, he's giving you
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: what he heard. There was nothing to be heard, like
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: he kept he kept looking at his phone, and I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: was like, no, please, please do not do this, do
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: not deliver this news that we were all He's kept
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: looking at his phone. I know. Like I said, I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: could nitpick something that everybody did or said throughout, but
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: I thought as a whole, I thought ESPN and those
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: guys that they're all sports, you know, and they all
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: said it like you know, we we we get into sports,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: we're covered like Lisa Salters, Yeah, excellent, excellent, excellent, she
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: was the best well and excellent, you know, like she's
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: a good example of like when you witness something like that,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: it rattles you, you know, and she she held it together,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: but you could tell, like, but she was giving you
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: some really interesting stuff like under the stands and without
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: being intrusive, without making yourself part of the story, which
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I thought some of the other reporters that sort of
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: came in the aftermath, I thought it was about them
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit. That Kali Harvey was one of them.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I'm from Cincinnati. Yeah it was.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care where you live. And
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, in today's age, you got to
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: give credit to the fans that were at the game,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: you know, like they all like I never saw a
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: more quiet stadium, and then when it was announced the suspension,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: like they just left fanshit up to the hospital. Yeah,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: they said that it was so quiet. Actually, I was
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: texting with Tracks last night because he was at the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: game and covering the from the Bengals, and he said
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: it was so quiet in the stadium when they were
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: taking him off in the ambulance that you could hear
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the sirens going all the way to the hospital. Because
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: you could just hear a pin drop in the stadium
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: and I just look at it from God forbid. What
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: if it was one of the guys in this locker
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: room that I'm around all the time and covering it
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: as a beat reporter. I just don't know how eight
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't know how to capture something like that. But
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: b I don't even know how you you go about
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: doing your job right. So I really commend all these
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: people that were there that that did their job to
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: the best of their ability, because I know, if you
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: know a guy like to mar Hamlin, for a lot
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: of these reporters, you speak to him at least once
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: a week if not, if not more, and you see
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: him in the locker room all the time, and he's
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: walking around and and you maybe chat with him and
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: stuff like that on the side or whatever. And to
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: have this happen to somebody like that, personally, it's personal.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: It is I'm not going to say that they're friends
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: of ours, but it's it's it's somebody they talk to something,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, even with how things went down
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: in Vegas with Jacobe, like I wanted to cry for
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: or Arizona rather whatever game it was, I thank you.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: I felt so bad for him, even from something as
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: trivial as that. So to put it in life in
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: death situations, you don't you know, you feel for them,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Alexander writes in Let's hope for the best with the
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Bill situation. Having witness CPR in person on a loved one,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: it stayed in my mind for a long time. Regarding
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, are you guys getting nikkil Harry vibes from Thornton?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the eye test is accurate, And I'm worried his lanky,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: loose stumbling style is not going to be a good
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: thing going forward. I don't. I don't see. I mean,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: I have definitely have concerns. I thought he had a
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: pretty nice little bounce back game last week. I don't
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: think he's in there. I mean, we can talk about
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: what his issues are. I think they're different issues than
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: what nikkil Harry had. I agree with that. Different issues, Yeah,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: not like stiff you know, can't run. It's almost they
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: open separate. But Evan was on something about him early
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: in the season that I think is getting more and
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: more apparent. And that's just like his footwork on or
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: around the sidelines, Like I don't think that that was
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: an impossible catch in the end zone. I made it
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: look like I don't think it was an impossible catch
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: that he ended up getting credit for in the sidelines. Yeah,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: I know that to me has been a problem with
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: multiple receivers on this team, I would say, or those
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: like drop it in the bucket throws like that's one
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: of those. Like he's got plenty of him to get
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: his feet in bounds plenty. I thought the throw deep
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: to him early in the game the twenty nine year
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: was a near perfect throw from mac Yeah, that he
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: made look ridiculously hard. And that one bugged me a
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: little bit because the one in the end zone, the
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: defender goes goes right across and so he just is
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: throwing his hands up and trying to catch it. But
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Nelson Agilore had one a couple of weeks ago, the
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: same thing where he's drops in the bucket on him
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: and he just doesn't get his feed in bounds, you know.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: And and that working of the sideline as a skill,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: you know, that's something that they have to work pretty
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: good at. His Parker, and you would think that out
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: of that group, not that he's not an elite athlete,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: because obviously he is. He was like the eleventh pick overall, Like,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't think of him in the same kind
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: of you know, fluid athlete kind of nature is. But
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: he's really good at those those sideline throws. Yeah, I
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: just think that is disagree no idea. It's just interesting
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: how guys are, you know, like you try to put
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: guys in a box and you don't really know. Like
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: it's just it's weird the the permutations between different players,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: even though like nobody's I mean, the fact that he
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: got hurt coming out of camp and missed the first
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: month is sticking in my mind and I'm giving him
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: that out and I like that. I like that he's
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: playing a lot now, Like I like that they're at
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: least giving him the experience he's not producing. But I'm
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I'm looking now as are we setting up for something
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: next year? He's getting some experience. At least it's not
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: lost year. Like he's the only guy guaranteed to be
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: back in that in that group. Yeah, I'll say this,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: the quarterback likes throwing him the ball, and quarterbacks love
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: thrown got fast guys the ball in general. But I
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: do think that for mac he gives not that he's
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: the same type of player, but Mac play with a
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: lot of those finesse, speed type of receivers at Alabama,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: and I think that he gives him some of those
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: those vibes. And I just would like to see Thornton
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: in particular, from a usage standpoint in this game, I
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: thought they did a better job of it. But when
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: you pit him against then the sideline, against the boundary
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: and just have him beat press coverage, that's not his game, right.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: He gets smothered at the line of scrimmage, or he
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: gets pushed into the sideline where there's no throw to
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: be made by the quarterback. But in this game, you
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: know the big catch on the opening drive, they motioned
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: him at the snap, and then they line him up
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: tight to the formation and they give him that room
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: to run into the sideline, and then they hit him
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: up the seam, you know, running out of the slot,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: like getting him away from physical coverage and bring him
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: in motion, playing him out of the slot. Like, I
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: think those are things that they can do to let
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: him use that speed because he's just a fast guy.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's what's interesting about him, is that, like
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: they always seem to put a premium on blocking and
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: that was a big thing with Harry And it doesn't
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: seem like I'm not saying it's wrong that they should,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like you're ever gonna plan on
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: getting any blocking on it. Know, like it's just interesting,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Like I think I like the direction. But at the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: same time, like you see him, like Evan said, against
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Man and all of a sudden, the guy just goes
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: boom and Thornton's just, you know, like one hundred and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: sixty pounds soaking wet. I think, I mean, I think
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: he's got to put on some weight and like you
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: guys said, rEFInd some of the footwork. But I mean,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see him in camp next. Jearis
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: got to hold the red line a little bit better.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Like on the throw in the end zone when he
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: throws it, he kind of throws like a fade to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: him in the end zone. He gets bumped off the
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: route and it looked like they may have gotten their
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: feet tangled a little bit. But I just those are
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: those are stiff wind Those are players that, like really
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: good vertical receivers. They find a way to keep themselves
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: moving right, like they don't get bumped off the Yeah,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: and sometimes I see that a little bit with him
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: is that he's he fades on the route because he
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: gets bumped off of it. Jack in Stoughton a little
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: buy cell game for twenty twenty three. Ready, I could
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: use a game, buy or sell. Judean has thirteen sacks
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and Ouche comes back to add
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: another ten sacks. Buy or sell that? Sure? I'd buy that? Yeah, yeah, sure,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: why not? Why not buy or sell? Kendrick Bourne emerges
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: as a key part of the offense. It has consistent
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: productions similar to his first year with the Patriots in
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: twenty three. Can I interrupt this cell? Yeah? We have
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: an update. So Bill's Bengals is not going to be
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: played this week. The NFL has made no decision regarding
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: the possible resumption of the game at a later date.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: The league has not made any changes the Week eighteen
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: regular season schedule, so it sounds like, as of right now,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: if they find a way to fit Bills Bengals in,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: it'll be later on. And I think as of right now,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: the league is planning on paying Patriots Bills on Sunday.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: And that's from the NFL. Okay, yeah, I think that is.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's the only real voice of action. I
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: you know, this morning we were talking, someone had put
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: something out about the Bills and Bengals possibly playing within
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: forty eight hours. I thought there was a zero percent
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: chance of that. I just didn't think it made any sense.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: First and foremost emotionally for both teams. Both teams were
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: on the field last night seeing that. Right, But then Wendy,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: you like, how do you then, if you just want
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: to take the emotion and the humanity out of it,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: how do you then ask them to play, say Wednesday
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: or Thursday and then again on Sunday. It can't be
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: concerned with player health and do that no period. Forget
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: about you know, Hamlin's injury. If you're worried about player safety,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: you can't make them play like that. It's just it's
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: not right because that's health. Yeah, that's a health issue.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: That's a mental right. This is this is not the
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: type of game. You can do that. And they still
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: have to decide. I have problems with the Thursday game,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know they're still gonna have
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: to decide when the Bengals Ravens game was though, that
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: was the one that was still TVD based on my
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: guess is that will be four twenty five. Now that
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: because I mean, you could go through all the different,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: you know, permutations. I think that if Cincinnati had lost,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: then that takes them out of that They don't need
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't have needed to be in that window with Buffalo,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, And I
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: think they probably wanted to be a four twenty five
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: game just to add a four twenty five game to
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: the mix. But who knows. But it's Sunday anyway. So
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: the Bills just tweeted to mar Hamlin spent last night
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: in the intensive care unit and remains there today in
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: critical condition at University of Cincinnati Medical Center. We are
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: grateful and thankful for the outpouring of support we have
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: received us far. So he's still in critical According to Buffalo,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: all right, continuing with the buy or sell, Mac has
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: more than fifteen touchdowns but throws at least ten interceptions.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: This is next the two for I will buy that.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: I'll buy that. If he doesn't, he's kind of like,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: he doesn't do that, don't make it. Don't even get
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: through all the all the way through the third year.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't throw fifteen touchdowns right by yourself. Paul
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: and Fred get into several arguments about how the team
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: is actually better than what was their record, that their
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: record showed. Buying that's always a buy, and investing in
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: the stock. You're bullish on put it in the market.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Paul is just left. That was just gone. That was
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: a great head nod though, But it's gonna the fridge.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Um let's see Yemmy in Texas writes in last week,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: your discussion was about Derek Carr coming to the Patriots.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: But what if Josh McDaniels wants to trade for Mac Jones?
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Would you do it? Trade Derek Carr? Not with that? Not?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: I mean what they pick up his option and then
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: we take on a humongous Derek Carr contract and give
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: the I wouldn't do it. I don't understand. I mean
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: there was a time where I would, but not now
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: I don't done it right? Or what was he was? It?
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: Was he a preagent? No? I forget he says I would.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: Yummy says, I just don't think he's good enough. I'm
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: also interested to see how he would do with more
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: weapons than a better OC. So he's not good enough,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: but with better weapons than a good OC, he might
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: be good enough. I just resigned never happened. I just
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: pass on both. Sure, I just don't understand the Derek
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: Carr thing. Like, to me, Derek Carr and Mac Jones
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: are like the Spider Man, mean, where they're pointing at
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: each other, and now we're going to take the more
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: expensive older one. Yeah right, I just I think Derek
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Carr's has more physical talent than Mac. Whenever I watch
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Derek Carr, I just think of vanilla ice cream, which
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: just like this guy just doesn't add anything of any
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: substance to the offense, right, Like, it's just if it's there,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: it's there. If it's not, it's not, and that in
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: the play is over, which is like exactly how I
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: feel about Max. So I just don't know, why would
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: you take the thirty million dollar one at what like
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: thirty two thirty three years old when you have the
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: twenty five dollars a year old one at four and
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: a half million. Andrew and Lam says, you know about
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: our earlier conversation about Mac, and you know who's two's
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: to blame and all that. He says, geez, I really
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: wish I could take as little accountability as Mac Jones
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick have been asked to take in their careers.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: It's always another person's fault, and the media make sure
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: you know it too. They all have their gestures in
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: front of them, giving every reason in the book except
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: that they're not good enough. Well, I don't know about it.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah not here, Yeah, I feel like to the show.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: I got that one to one of my friends. Um,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: let's see Shaddy in Houston. The reason most people are
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: not too happy with Mack is his lack of leadership.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: It's been two full seasons we have not seen him
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: lead the team himself to victories, minus that one fluke
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: at Houston last year. He owes his defense for about
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: ninety percent of his wins, and never once has he
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: stepped up and returned the favor. All of this, to
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: add with the mediocre talent and lack of ability to
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: extend plays, means he'll never be a top ten quarterback. Well,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, is is he talking about leadership or is
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: he talking about win a game at the end that
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: you were down? I mean he's talking about more, you know,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: I think more of that, right, Like he wants to
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: see a comeback win, and I mean, I don't know
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: last week wasn't it, but it was in the vicinity
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: of it. I mean he also did get last week.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: I mean he had he had a drive a touchdown
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: drive at when they were winning well, but they needed
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: it right ultimately, if you say so, I'm not trying to.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: I'm pro defense here just for the record, but he
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: did give him the lead in Vegas just saying twenty
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: four seventeen. Did he? Yeah? I mean did he? I
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: thought I thought the game when he touchdown was a
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: forty yard run? How did it pick? How did we
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: set up the forty yard run with a forty yard pass?
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: So you know, is he did? Tom Brady never have
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: a running game like I mean, if if if all
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: we're doing for like this, like miracle comeback is like
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: the defense scores a touchdown and then I can and
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: I can score one touchdown and I can gotta come
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: from behind win. He has about twelve of those who
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: is credit if all you have to do is score
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: a touchdown every week, because that's all you ever do.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: I just don't know. They don't. They do not score
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: points when he's on the field. That's why people are
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: questioning him. It's not that it's like, it's not that
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: hard to crack the code. It's not why people are
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: questioning him. Though. If that's why people were questioning him,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: then I wouldn't have any problem with it. The reason
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: why people are questioning him is because he doesn't look
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: pretty playing football. You know why he doesn't look pretty
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: playing football because they don't move said football into the
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: end zone. No, it's the it's the Boomeris size and
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: take that. That's why. It's because his body label had.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: I get it, and everybody's wrong. I'm not saying they
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: don't move the ball. I'm saying that if that was
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: everybody's if he didn't think the ball, people would put
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: up with the doucinis. They did it. Think it's both
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: for me, I don't like either part of that. David
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: who hate it more than most David and Bethlehem. Why
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't Mac get more time watching Stidham last week? It
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: seemed he had better blocking protection. Oh my god, Stidham
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: ran for his life in a whole game and at
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: least a half a second more for long routes to develop. Unbelievable.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: Are badly run routes A big problem. As it seems
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: to me both of the interceptions were the result of pressure.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: One got battered in his face and the other one
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: he got hit as he threw. He ran around like
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: he ran for the excuses. You know what I think
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: of Stidham zero point zero. I just go back to
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty and I see Cam Newton getting charted out
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: there every week after they're eliminated. I think it was
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: coaching negligence not to find out if the backup quarterback
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: that you drafted could play. I think, especially if that
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: was negligent, Yeah, because it wasn't like Cam was going
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: to be the long term answer. Yeah, that whole thing.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: That's another one where hopefully someday we'll find out what
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: was going on that year with Cam because Bill was
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: so over the top protective of Cam. Cam was so
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: over the top protective of Belichick. Yeah, I mean I
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: don't think that's another That's another one that's not the
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Da Vinci code. Yeah. Well, I mean, do you think
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: how much of it reflects on Stidham? I mean, how
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Bill felt about Stidham the injury. I mean, maybe they
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: just didn't maybe they hated and that's why the Derek
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: carthing is so weird because McDaniels was had no issue.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe McDaniels was like, can we just give him a chance.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Let's let's let's approach this for a second, because I
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: think it's really interesting. Now, maybe I'm a thousand percent wrong.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe Stidham's good, Maybe he can play a little. How
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: would you feel if he ended up being say Jimmy
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: Garoppolo or Kirk Cousins for the next five years? Test
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: And don't you think that Bill should be like roundly
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: criticized for that? Because the audacity to go to a
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: wedding in the off season, that's supposedly why he fell
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: out of favor here. That's what I mean. Is there
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: something stupid? Does that sound like a sound reason to
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: give up on a draft pick? No, he's not tough enough,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: he won't condum it at, he won't compete for the job. Hit,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: he won't compete for the job, like, yeah, which is
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: gonna get rid of him? The trade compensation is what
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: I would second guess. More than anything, I think all
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: of it's worth second guessing. He was healthy enough to
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: be on the field in twenty twenty. You were eliminated
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't play him. What if he did what
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: he did on Sunday for the last Now do you
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: go into the next season and like, do you pass
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: on mac Jones in the first round because of that?
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Like something to think about. Well, maybe I don't have
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: to take a quarterback because if I don't really love
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, I have one that played three good games
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: for me. I guess I don't know. I just now
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: again and I are coming from the spot with Stidham,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: we don't believe it. Let's let's let's play that through.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Let's just say that you can't. You kept Stidham and
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: you still drafted back. Everything else happened the same way,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: but instead of bringing in Bailey Zappy, you're bringing in
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Jared stidm Maybe now you have more of a tendency
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: to stick with Stidham, you know, I just don't know.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: I think that if he came into that season in
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty and played well at the end of the year,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: and then you put any stock into that one, and
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: I agree that they should have played him. I'm not saying,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: but talked. If they if they put any stock into that,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: then I think you're doing yourself a disservice honestly, because
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: we probably would have gone into that year with like
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Stidham and maybe like Davis Mills on the roster. And
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: if you had Davis Mills, then I guess I can
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: talk myself into it, and at least you addressed it.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: But I think you're just kicking the can down the
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: road of eventually taking a corner. More than likely, Yeah,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: more than likely, Stidham at best would be a bridge
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: guy right now, I personally think that's what you have.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: So again I'm going to open up the possibility that
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong and Stidham is better than that, and you
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: missed out on an opportunity for what, Like what did
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: you have to lose? Like you just decided you didn't
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: like it because you compete the way you think. I
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: go back to this strange relationship with Bill and Cam
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: like you know Bill, Like I don't know if it
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: was an agreement like while I'm here, I'm going to
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: be the starter or whatever, but Bill protected his ego
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: like I've never seen him do for any other player. Now, yeah,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: if Stidham ends up being what you and I kind
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: of think he is, yeah, you know, maybe Mackish at best,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: at best. Yeah, you know, maybe not even as good
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: as Mack. Then what's the difference? Who cares right now?
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: You know? But like, what if he's good? I just
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: think it signs a light too on Josh clearly like
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: Jared Stidham, right, he brought him to the Raiders. He
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: was willing him to give a shot. Now what was
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: what was his relationship like with Cam and what's Bill?
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: And I always think of that as I think that's
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: good business for a coach who goes somewhere. If you
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: have an opportunity to get like a backup quarterback that
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: knows your system, that's a that's that's good business. Like
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: you need to have a guy, right, you know, the quarterback.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: The quarterback knows you a system. It's like a basketball
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: coach that has, you know, like a specific big system
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: and he gets his point guard, like, you know, I
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: know he can run my offense. Right, I think that
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: makes sense. But again I'm just saying, what if remote
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: possibility here? I know this rarely happens, But what if
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong and Stidham is really good, Like, no one's
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: gonna look at that any different way. He was on
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: the team for a couple of years and you wouldn't
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: give him a chance because Cam Newton had a play.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: It's also in that camp, which was a bizarre camp
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: because it was the middle of COVID, But I was
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: lucky enough to watch most of those practice practices and
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: the best thrower of the football on that camp was Jared'stidham. Like,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: and that's not like going out on a limb like.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton didn't throw the ball well all year. So
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: the best thrower in camp was was Jared'stidham. But towards
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: the end of camp, especially once they got pads on
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: and they were really starting to you could see the
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: run game advantages to playing Cam. And that's sort of
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: when the offense you were like, Okay, I mean this
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: isn't gonna be good, but there's a method here right,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Like there there's the fact that they gave Cam a shot.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem, right. I was very excited
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: when they got Cam. Fred will tell you, oh yeah,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: all like they just signed Cam Newton's Fred Fred called
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: me on a Sunday night in July and I was like,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: you know, normally July, what am I doing. I'm on
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: the deck, I'm drinking. Yeah, I was jacked up. I'm
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: writing like analysis piece on Cam Newton coming and Kim
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: we never get guys like that gave him he was done.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: We add at that point though, were we really like
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: in June being like I think it was like I
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: think it was the end of that was the end
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: of June, beginning of July. Yeah, but but we got
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: we got to like it was a late point in
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: the off season when the majority of team building were
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: done and we're really like it was its Jared Stidham
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: and then he went to a wedding, aren't we There's
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: a dark place. I do still watch the news that
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: was it that Eric was on vacation. That was the
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: origin of that quote. Eric was on vacation and we
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: had a big debate as to whether or not Eric
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: knew that we signed Cam Newton when he came back.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: Was it going to be news to him. I remember
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: at the end of the camp too, a lot of
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: us that were there at those practices were having discussions
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: of like, could they college quarterback this and have Cam
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: like a Cam run package and j you know, not
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: the platoon that we saw against Chicago, but like a
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: situational you know, this is our passing quarterback. This is
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: our running quarterback, because it really it wasn't like Jared
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Sidon was throwing the ball over the yard, Don't get
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: me wrong, but it was. He was definitely the better
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: passer out of the two spin Fresno Again, how many
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: of Max's so called big time throws boys are born
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: out of necessity or desperation as opposed to opportunities or
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: favorable matchups. I wonder if for Mac relative to Rogers,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: those shots are more likely to come on third or
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: fourth in too long Well, his two big time throws
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: on Sunday were the one to Hunter Henry which was
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: third and six, and the one to Jakobe Myers, which
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: was third in medium as well. So I don't know
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: they weren't They weren't desperation on Sunday. I think there
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: have been some that he hit, like like Miami the
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: Game of the Year. We threw a bomb to Bourne
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: about you know they're bound a million points In the
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: four four against Cincinnati, they went along the sideline to
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: burn the seams, splitter to Bourne, the touchdown to Bourne,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Borne Born Kristen and Houston. How many of these quarterbacks
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: would you say performed as well? Or better than Mac
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: this week. Josh Dobbs, he did not play as well.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: David Blow he played pretty well. Teddy Bridgewater off, No
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: Bridgewater well, No Gardner, Minshew terrible, Brock Purdy, he played
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: better than Matt Jarrett Stidham. He played better than Tyler Huntley. No.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I don't mean this to be as an indictment on
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Mac per se. If anything, I'm frustrated that other teams
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: offenses can still resemble NFL offenses with backups when ours
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: looks like Foxboro High with a starter. I don't think
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: all of those offenses looked like NFL offenses that you
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: just rattled off. Tennessee, Philadelphia, Baltimore. Those didn't looked like
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: anything but NFL offenses. Miami didn't look like an NFL
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: offense with their backup quarterback. Yeah, chat Atlanta. I haven't
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: seen any updates on Jonathan Jones and his injury in
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins game, or Marcus Jones. And what about Jack Jones.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: If Jonathan Jones can't go, could Jack Jones play? Jack
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Jones is out for the year. I I know a
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: lot of people, including myself, were very high on Jack
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Jones in general. Are we missing him? In the secondary
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: or was he good enough yet to be missed. We're
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: talking about Marcus Jones, Jack Jack Jones definitely missed him
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's played
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: very well, but I mean, you certainly miss missed the
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: depth and you had to take two guys off the
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: practice squad. So would'd rather have Jack Jones than helped
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: me out? Tyesyes, I was gonna go Davis, so I'm
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: glad I asked her help from the ground, Tayes. Actually,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he played like he's a good player,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: because I have no idea he played twenty four snaps,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: but he had a pretty good feel for what they
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: were doing defensively in a game where they did use
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: some game planned wrinkle calls. So I was impressed by
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: the fact that he absorbed as much information as he
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: did in a short period of time. So I want
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: to give him credit for that. Okay. Eric writes in
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: Long time Listener, First time Emailer. One thing I haven't
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: seen mentioned too much is how the Patriots would not
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: have made the playoffs last year if not for adding
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: the seventh seed. Maybe it's stupid to talk about hypothetical scenarios.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: That's true. It was a sixth seed last year. Yeah,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: since if you change one thing, it will change other things.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: But how do you think your view of the Patriots
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: over the last couple of seasons would change if not
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: for expanding the playoffs. Yeah, I think the expanding of
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: the playoffs is an issue. But I think last year,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, it was the Raiders were five,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: the Patriots were six, and the Steelers was seven. Yeah,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: I meant were six. I mean, I know people don't
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: like the seventh team. Now get ready for eight because
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: that's where they're going, right, Isn't it makes sense that
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have eight with no buzz or two with
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: no buzz buzz. Well, I think what was interesting was
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: that a lot of these games, even this past Sunday,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: because if this was, you know, not it was sixteen playoff,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: the AFC has already decided besides the AFC South. So
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: all these games that mattered this past week only mattered
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: because of the seventh seed. Right, So in that respect,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: it did add at least some meaningful games at the
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: end of the year for more teams. That's exactly how
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: I wrote it in the notes It definitely worked in
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: terms of keeping more teams alive, but I think it's
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: hard to call it a success when they're all eight
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: and nine to nine and eight, Like, I don't think
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: those teams belong in the playoffs. And we'll see, Like
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: if the Patriots end up being the seventh seed and
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: we end up going to Cincinnati or Buffalo for and
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: they lose like they did last year, then I think
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: we can say, Okay, this is not competitive. If the
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: seventh seeds battle a little bit, then maybe we have
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: a different conversation. I don't know, Yeah, I mean I
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: would look at it as it's a one off. I mean,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: anybody can upset somebody on a given week and it
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: could happen. Like I wouldn't completely dismiss I didn't dismiss
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: the Patriot's chances going into that playoff game last year, right,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't say going into I'm not going to be
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: a fraud and say that. I went into that game
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: saying there's no chance. I didn't think they would win,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: but you know, upsets happen. L from Wisconsin. I gotta
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: call out Evan here. Well, sure he's not sold on Mac,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: but the way he talks about Mac. It's clear he's
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent of Mac guy. If it wasn't for
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: the system, Mac would be on his way to the
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: super Bowl. And everyone who doesn't like Mac is an
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: idiot who just doesn't like him and isn't watching the games.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: I'll admit to one thing that what's the comportment? You
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: don't know what comportment is? How you handle yourself. I
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: knew what comportment was. I just wanted to make sure
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: that we got that in there. That again it is.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: But again, a lot of people didn't like his comportment,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: but they got they got past it. I just, okay,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: I lay down my sword on this one. I can't.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't think you said that they go
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: into the super Bowl with if they had another systems. No,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of it. I said
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: that I would like to see Mac in a better
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: system so I can decide whether or not I truly
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: think he's the guy, because right now I think that
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of broken things going on around him
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: that are making it difficult for me to actually make
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: a full evaluation. And I'm not going to just evaluate
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: him on his rookie season because he was a rookie.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: So in year three, if he's got Bill O'Brien as
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator and he looks like he did this year,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: then we're all going to be a team. Let's let's
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: find something better. Let's move on. So let's um, what
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: if what if it's not Bill O'Brien, what if it's
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: cliss No, what if it stays the same? Does he
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: get another pass? If it stays the same, does a
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: personnel stay the same or do they upgrade the personnel? Well,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: they're not going to have the same players, but right,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: And I'll leave that to your interpretation as to whether
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: or not's an upgrade, because I could I'm sure I
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: could get a Paul fred argument like, no, no, he's
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: better than him. No, No, he's better than that. Now No,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: not Myers is better. No, Like they're gonna have different receivers.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: But if it's the same structure and Matt Patricia's the
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and clearly Bill expects him to be better,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: it's so hard to judge because you're taking a quarterback
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: who's never done in the NFL and an OC who's
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: never done it in the NFL, and you're trying to
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: make a judgment and it's like, oh, you know, never
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: done it. Huh, So his whole rookie year doesn't count
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: at all? Not really, I mean, okay, yeah, I would
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: say in your hypothetical way, like professors, Lord help us
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: all if that ends up being the case. But in
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: that hypothetical I would say, next year, I don't necessarily
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: need to see him like the World on Fire with
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, but I would like to see I think
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: this year with one of his biggest issues that he's
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: had is that right out of the gate, he allowed
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: this become bigger than it needed to be. That's my problem, right,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: that's they never even tried Next year, if it's the
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: same thing and they say, listen, Mac, like this is
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: what we're doing. Get on board or don't get on board,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: and that's a tipping. I give him one year to
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: be frustrated with it. Next year, I think that you
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: have to get to the point. And I would say
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: that it's mainly because contractually they have to make a
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: decision on his fifth year option and they have to
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: sort of make a decision on his future. So this
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: is what we're If that's what we're left with, then yeah,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: then year three is still to me a tipping point,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: but I would ultimately put the blame at the top
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: that they put him into situation to fail. What's more
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: important to do next year in order to make a judgment,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: change the OC or make the old line a lot better?
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: Why not both? But what's more important they'll see? I'd
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: say the OC as well. Really yeah, because I think
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: if on the offensive line question, they've gotten away with
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want to call it lesser talent because I
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: hate that argument, but they've gotten away with like guys
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: that are not first round picks on the line and
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: Dante just coached them up right, So I think that
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: there's an element with the line, especially that if you
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: just got five guys that are playing on a string,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: then they can block a lot better than you know,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: maybe their draft status. When you do your things on
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: the big time throws, where did those come from? What
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: do you mean does and how do they How does
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: PF have the Patriots offensive line ranked and comparative to
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: the league? Um? Number one? I believe it's five. So
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: I've had this argument with the guy that writes that
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: article because he's not watching the Patriots play, and I, uh,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: what watch. I'm very consistent. Yeah, so I don't those
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: articles are are they have like preseason rankings, and it's
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: like very difficult to move. I know what you're saying
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  Speaker 1: up and down exactly what you're saying is happening. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know where, Paul, Yeah, I don't know where they
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: have them exactly, but I know where I have them,
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  Speaker 1: and that is that. I don't think. I don't think
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: the line's been great. I don't think line play in
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: general is great around the league. That's fair. I think,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: you know, they're a handful of teams that have really
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: good offensive lines. I think the Eagles are one. I
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: think we saw a couple in games with the Patriots
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: one and blowouts. Cleveland and Detroit. I think both have
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: pretty good offensive lines. But I see a lot of
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: teams with terrible offensive Dallas is I mean Tyrant Smith's
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: back and they moved him to write tackle, which was
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of injury. Not to go down this rabbit hole,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: but the Cowboys drafted Tyler Smith out of Tulsa in
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: the first round and he's played guard and tackle for
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: them this year and he's a stud. Yeah, And the
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: Patriots were on the clock in the first round and
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: traded out of the pick to move down to draft
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: Cole Strange. And now Tyler Smith might be a rookie
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: pro bowler. And I know earlier in the season. I
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: don't know what he's had for because I don't care.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: But Zion Johnson played reasonably well for a while too,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: especially when Slater went out. Yeah for the Chargers. Yeah.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Now he was drafted before, right, so they would have
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: had to trade up to get him. Yeah, but Tyler
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: instead of trading back. Right, if you're targeting a guard,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: don't you say that doesn't matter? Whatever guard we get
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: will take right they I mean Tyler Smith was staring
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: at him in the face, right, like he was on
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: the board while they were on the clock. Yeah, um,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: getting ready to take a tackle next Wan in Mexico.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: The Ohio state guy's name Paris Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. My
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers for them, for Hamlin and his family.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: Hope he can pull through before this uncertainty in the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: NFL season, When they released the time slots for Week
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: eighteen games, did they try to make it the worst
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: possible scenario? How do you put the Lions and Packers
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: in Sunday Night football where it is possible one of
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: them is eliminated already. I don't even I don't know
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: if that's true. One I don't think. I think that's
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: a oh Detroit to get eliminated if Seattle wins. Oh
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: they could, Yeah, Okay, they just want a Rodgerson primetime.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: But it is I think this, the whole Saturday thing
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: has introduced a layer that they didn't want. They wanted
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: to really, I agree with the emailer's point because he
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: conveniently leaves out the part that benefited the Patriots with that.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: But I thought the whole goal of this sort of
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: shift to division games late in the year for everybody,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: was to ensure the competitive nature of these games and
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: try to eliminate some teams not having anything to play
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: for and not knowing your fate before you took the field.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: And yet here we are with Kansas City. Now, the
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: whole thing that happened last night throws a monkey wrench
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: in this. But if if everything played out, Kansas City
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: would have had If Buffalo played last night and lost,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: Kansas City could play Saturday and clinch the number one seed.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: So Buffalo would have had no number one seed to
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: play for. Now You could argue they'd still play hard
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: because they want to play two or three or whatever,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: But that's up to Sean McDermott. Now he's not gonna
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: dump when the when a win is a buy in
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: a loss is not a buy. No one dumps in
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: that situation. So the NFL and the email is right Detroit.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: If Seattle wins, Detroit's out because Detroit needs to beat
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Green Bay and have Seattle lose. So what about what
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: about just Packers needing the game to get in? Yeah?
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: I know, but if the other team's not playing hard,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: that's what they're looking to avoid. So all you had
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: to do was have the Packers play Detroit on Saturday
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: night and have the Tennessee Jacksonville game, which is Alton
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: no matter what that's for the AFC side, right, I
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: can't believe that's not the same, which like it's not
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: that hard, that makes sense. I just don't understand. Why
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: is the AFC South Championship not the Sunday night game,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: Like that's how it's always been, right, Like right, I remember,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: you know the NFC East used to have game like
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: that where both teams were not very like middle teams.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: Winner goes the loser goes right. It was like Giants
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Cowboys or Giants Eagles or something like that. And they
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: used to play it on Sunday night, is the NFC
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: East Championship game. And it's almost like they looked at
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: it and they said, well, Jacksonville, if you know, if
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: Miami in New England and Pittsburgh goll lose and Jet,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: the game doesn't mean anything to Jacksonville because they're in
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: either way. But there's still game. They're still yeah, of
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: course they're still gonna try to win the game, Yeah,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: because they want to win the division. Like, I don't
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: think that was a hard fix. You could have You
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: could have made it so both of those games were
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: competitive for both teams just by flip flop in twenty
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: four hours and they didn't do it. All right, that's
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: be back tomorrow at noon. Hopefully we'll have some good
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: news to share um about Hamlin's condition, but you know,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: we'll wait and see. But the news right now that
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: we can't give you is that they will not be
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: playing that game this week anyway. And you know, if
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: there's no word about our game on Sunday, but they
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: will not be playing the Bengals Bills game this week. Well,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: let's say the week eighteen. What did it say about
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: it unaffected? Yeah right now, yeah, it's unaffected Sunday at
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: one for us, but um all right, um, so stay
• 1:56:22
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• 1:56:25
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