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Special Forces: Transform Your Life with This Advice – Insights by Billy Billingham · Motivation Mindset Podcast

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Speaker 1: It'll be hard.
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Speaker 2: You can hardly breathe, your legs are over, your arms
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Speaker 2: are every but you can there want to be someone
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Speaker 2: go out and do it, or try and do it,
0:08
Speaker 2: at least once that job's done, it's done. That's his true.
0:14
Speaker 2: Stop patting yourself on the back and telling yourself how
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Speaker 2: great it wasn't going the rest of its move on,
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Speaker 2: keep your talking. Excuse you to yourself, because you know what,
0:21
Speaker 2: when you be on the enemy lines, you're on your own.
0:23
Speaker 2: No one else is picking you up. It's down in you.
0:25
Speaker 2: I could off, I should off, but you've got to
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Speaker 2: make the first move. There's two sides. So there's the
0:39
Speaker 2: emotional side or the worry of not coming back for
0:42
Speaker 2: your family and everybody else. That's always there for everybody.
0:45
Speaker 2: But secondly, it's challenging, it's exciting, it's like an adrenaline.
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Speaker 2: This is a chance to prove uself. This is where
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Speaker 2: I've trained to supposedly produce the goods, and now I'm
0:55
Speaker 2: going to go out.
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Speaker 1: There and produce the goods.
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Speaker 2: And whether that's stopping terrorism or stopping whatever or doing
0:59
Speaker 2: good things, that's what you're there to do. And no
1:01
Speaker 2: one knows that I don't know how was going to
1:03
Speaker 2: be react to being shot at, being forced to have
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Speaker 2: been bombed or wherever. Until you're out there and do it,
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Speaker 2: and everybody, every single military person man offit will tall
1:12
Speaker 2: you the same. They want to go and experience it.
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Speaker 2: No one anybody who says the light war and war's
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Speaker 2: great fucking idiots. No one likes war. No one likes conflict,
1:22
Speaker 2: you know, but that's our mainstay. That's our biggest test.
1:25
Speaker 2: You know. Formerly one driver is trained to go as
1:28
Speaker 2: fast as going to win a race dangerous and got
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Speaker 2: to do it.
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Speaker 1: A soldier is there.
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Speaker 2: The worst case scenario is to be put in a
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Speaker 2: confort type situation and being able to keep your head
1:37
Speaker 2: and make a clear, clarified decision to do the right thing.
1:45
Speaker 2: It's never ever gone to plan never ever. You know,
1:49
Speaker 2: it goes to planning terms of we've got the right result,
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Speaker 2: but what we each stage we plan for out the window.
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Speaker 2: Normally from the moment you were, you've step off the helicopter,
1:59
Speaker 2: step out of your vehicle, para shootings into the place,
2:02
Speaker 2: everything changes, Communications will always go down.
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Speaker 1: It just happens.
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Speaker 2: So now you got to think on your feet. It's
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Speaker 2: visual all the time. Visual and verbal keep you control
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Speaker 2: of things. You know, and I remember that some of
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Speaker 2: the bizarrest of situations in conflict.
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Speaker 1: You know, in the Bozia conflict, halfway.
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Speaker 2: Through a horrendous sort of ground bottle that was going on.
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Speaker 2: Is some guy washing his car like his Sunday afternoon.
2:27
Speaker 2: You know, where did that just come from?
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Speaker 1: And what the fuck is that about?
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Speaker 2: War is strange, It's it's nasty, and it's strange. Someone's
2:41
Speaker 2: out there trying to kill. You've got to step it
2:43
Speaker 2: up to stop that. But in the middle of that,
2:45
Speaker 2: as soon as a family bang, you've got to back
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Speaker 2: off a bit and find another solution. You know, you're
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Speaker 2: thinking all the time. It's a lot going on and
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Speaker 2: it's challenging, and you know, you go to you go
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Speaker 2: to the war conflict and the temple's massive as you
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Speaker 2: can mean, the work rate is massive. There is no
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Speaker 2: finish line. You don't know when this is going to
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Speaker 2: end because you don't know where it's going to go.
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Speaker 2: You don't really know what's going to come around the
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Speaker 2: next corner and what's going to come from your next
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Speaker 2: Obviously you plan for everything, but be prepared for the unexpected.
3:21
Speaker 2: You come home and you go straight back into supposedly
3:24
Speaker 2: normal life. Well, that's difficult when you know you may
3:27
Speaker 2: have lost people, or you may have seen this, or
3:29
Speaker 2: you may have seen that, and you've got this crazy
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Speaker 2: aggressive mentality in your head and you get home and
3:33
Speaker 2: then it's kind of you haven't had time to decompress
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Speaker 2: it and let it calm down, and okay, but that's
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Speaker 2: a bed. Now he's straight into supposedly another life. We
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Speaker 2: binge life. We bringe this craziness straight in to binge normality.
3:48
Speaker 2: What normality is being at home with a family or
3:50
Speaker 2: with your friends, and we don't get the time to
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Speaker 2: you know, filter their badness or the aggressive bit out
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Speaker 2: and straight into it. You become a little bit aggressed
4:00
Speaker 2: when you've just had somebody who's got no house, no
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Speaker 2: family off, the family missing, that's a real problem, not
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Speaker 2: the fucking washing machine's broke or the car's been stolen
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Speaker 2: or the kids had a fight at school.
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Speaker 1: So like, so what.
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Speaker 2: Because the people at home, when you're in war and comfort,
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Speaker 2: they're in war and comfort, worrying where the hell you are,
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Speaker 2: what's going on, and you know, trying to keep the
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Speaker 2: house together, the family together, the friends together. So that
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Speaker 2: was difficult, I think, and that's why, you know, a
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Speaker 2: lot of issues we're having today, you're happening because people
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Speaker 2: haven't had a chance to decompress and get shipped off
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Speaker 2: the chest.
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Speaker 1: And it's always for assault.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: You always think about if only.
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Speaker 2: On a step to the left, that could have happened,
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Speaker 2: if only had have done this, if only done that.
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Speaker 2: Get that off your plate before you go home, because
4:54
Speaker 2: that's on your plane and you end inevitably you end
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Speaker 2: up taking out of your your wife, your partner, you know,
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Speaker 2: your aggression and they're like, whoa where did that come from.
5:03
Speaker 2: Once that job's done, it's done. That's his true. Stop
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Speaker 2: patting yourself on the back and telling yourself how great
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Speaker 2: it was and.
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Speaker 1: All the rest of it.
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Speaker 2: Move on what comes next, because you know what, when
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Speaker 2: you be on the enemy lines, you're on your own.
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Speaker 2: No one else is picking you up. It's only you.
5:17
Speaker 2: Talk's cheap in it. You know, I could of I
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Speaker 2: should have listen, I should have been the world fucking
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Speaker 2: champion boxer. The reason I wasn't was because I weren't
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Speaker 2: good enough. But I can talk about it. They said,
5:27
Speaker 2: if you want to be someone, go out and do
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Speaker 2: it or try and do it. At least you get
5:31
Speaker 2: a million excuses. I don't want a million excuses. I
5:34
Speaker 2: want one result. Keep your fucking excuses to yourself. And
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Speaker 2: he said, it's about going always a little further.
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Speaker 1: You will.
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Speaker 2: It won't be easy, it will be hard. You can
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Speaker 2: hardly breathe, your legs are over, your arms are.
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Speaker 1: Reavery, but you can.
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Speaker 2: And you've got that energy in your tank and that
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Speaker 2: drive to do it. Just use it, break through it.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter not getting on water this morning, it's cold.
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Speaker 1: I know it's cold.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in it because I can. I can.
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Speaker 1: I know, also have a choice.
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Speaker 2: I can or I can't. Like I said, you ain't,
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Speaker 2: no can't. I can. So I'm gonna do it. And
6:06
Speaker 2: everybody's got the same no matter what it is, you've
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Speaker 2: got it in there. You have got it in you.
6:11
Speaker 2: Everybody has. There's no excuses. Whether we've got a disease,
6:14
Speaker 2: where we've got a problem, whether you've got a mental
6:15
Speaker 2: problem you have, you've just got to go for it.
6:18
Speaker 2: But you've got to make the first move because no
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Speaker 2: one else knows what's inside your head. No one. You've
6:23
Speaker 2: got to say to yourself, I cannot sit in this
6:25
Speaker 2: pity party. You still have to go, go for and go.
6:29
Speaker 2: I wanna get through this now I'm gonna go, So everybody,
6:32
Speaker 2: that's what you've gotta go. You gotta say this is
6:34
Speaker 2: not comfortable. I've got to get through it. And it's
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Speaker 2: a passage in time. It's like anything. You know, we've
6:39
Speaker 2: all been through that roller coast strip. Oh, I've got
6:41
Speaker 2: a load of money. Now now I've got nothing. Now
6:43
Speaker 2: I've got a bit of money. Now I've got nothing.
6:44
Speaker 2: Now I'm feeling fit. No, I ain't fit. Now I'm
6:47
Speaker 2: in a great relationship. Now, everybody hat to me. It's
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Speaker 2: a passage of time. It'll keep coming and keep going.
6:52
Speaker 2: But you've got to make the first move. Get out
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Speaker 2: of the pity party, because the only one in the
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Speaker 2: pitty part is you, and go forward. Take that fucking
7:00
Speaker 2: bit and go fuck it and he ain't going to
7:03
Speaker 2: be easy, and it's going to be painful, but it's
7:05
Speaker 2: going to be worth it. Don't be afraid to go
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Speaker 2: for someone. Don't let everybody else tell you can't. The
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Speaker 2: only person knows if you can you can't is yourself.
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Speaker 2: And you might not be able to, but have the
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Speaker 2: courage of conviction the bulls to go for it anyway,
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Speaker 2: because it opens up a new style, new life for you,
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Speaker 2: a new generally a better place to be. My name's
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Speaker 2: Mark Billy Billing.
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Speaker 1: I'm better known as Billy.
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Speaker 2: I'm an next military guy. I spent over twenty seven
7:35
Speaker 2: actually probably about thirty two years in the military. I
7:37
Speaker 2: was born on a Council of state in the West Midlands, Walsall,
7:41
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five into a family of five. Came from
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Speaker 2: a very poor background. I was the middle child, and
7:48
Speaker 2: although a poor family, I was the one, the middle
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Speaker 2: child that went rogue. You know, back in the day
7:54
Speaker 2: then there was a lot of gang sort of warfare
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Speaker 2: going on and people struggling for sort of authority positions,
8:01
Speaker 2: if you like, and I kind of immediately graduated towards her.
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Speaker 2: By the age of nine, I was getting into small
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Speaker 2: gangs and.
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Speaker 1: Get into trouble.
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Speaker 2: And in between this year of being nine and eleven,
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Speaker 2: I joined a boxing club, an illegal boxing club, and
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Speaker 2: an old man that stole from took me to one
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Speaker 2: side and said, listen, boxing is not about brutality. It's
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Speaker 2: about it's a poor man's game of chess. It's about anticipation,
8:26
Speaker 2: it's about thinking, it's about using your feet, using your brain,
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Speaker 2: and I'll never forget those words. And the second thing
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Speaker 2: he said to me was, it's about you as an individual,
8:34
Speaker 2: going always a little further because you can. And strangely enough,
8:38
Speaker 2: many many years later then I joined the sas that
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Speaker 2: is part of our prayer, always a little further, and
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Speaker 2: I've kept that as my mantress since. Growing up on
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Speaker 2: a council of state, I started getting trouble. I was
8:48
Speaker 2: in trouble with the law, but the boxing kept me
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Speaker 2: sort of controlled. And then eventually I met the second
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Speaker 2: most influential man in my life, which was a guy
8:55
Speaker 2: who run the cadets. So I had a Monday, Wednesday
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Speaker 2: and a Friday, boxing training, disciplined Tuesday and a Thursday.
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Speaker 1: I was at cadets.
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Speaker 2: We didn't have anything, for instance, that our food would be.
9:07
Speaker 2: My dad would make a pot of Stuart on the
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Speaker 2: Monday and that would be the food for the whole
9:10
Speaker 2: of the week. I used to go to school with
9:13
Speaker 2: a hole in the bottom of shoes and my mom
9:15
Speaker 2: would just put cardboard in there, and that's fact. And
9:18
Speaker 2: we'd walk to school.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was a couple of.
9:20
Speaker 2: Miles I was a kid, and I remember one situation where,
9:24
Speaker 2: you know, I was embarrassed by being in school with
9:26
Speaker 2: holes in the shoes. And I realized we went to
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Speaker 2: the gym and I didn't even have any pe kid
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Speaker 2: and ane of us. Did you know, I wasn't the
9:32
Speaker 2: only kid, not just half hand. There was a lot
9:34
Speaker 2: of families, and I remember seeing a basket full of
9:38
Speaker 2: plimsols and I saw some plimsals and then I thought, oh,
9:41
Speaker 2: they look brand new. And I also knew the caretaker
9:44
Speaker 2: every morning at seven in the morning, swept the gym
9:46
Speaker 2: and left the doors open.
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Speaker 1: So I left the house before.
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Speaker 2: About twenty to seven in the morning to go to school,
9:52
Speaker 2: walk to school and laying the snow on the bank,
9:54
Speaker 2: watching the gym. And when the caretaker opened the doors
9:57
Speaker 2: and went through to the change rooms, I ran in.
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Speaker 2: Stole those trains, those pumps, that's how poor it was,
10:02
Speaker 2: and I wore those those trainers.
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Speaker 1: But that's who we were.
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Speaker 2: And everything was hand down, so my brother handed down
10:07
Speaker 2: to me, handy down to my brother, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was.
10:09
Speaker 2: Literally the motto in our house was first up, best dressed. Literally,
10:14
Speaker 2: grab ay canon, that's yours. Never been abroad. I'd never
10:17
Speaker 2: been on an airplane in my life. First time I
10:19
Speaker 2: went on an airplane was when I joined the army
10:21
Speaker 2: and I was getting thrown out of it. And then
10:26
Speaker 2: at the age of fifteen, you know, I ended up
10:28
Speaker 2: in a fight and I got stabbed. It's literally about
10:34
Speaker 2: one hundred meters from my house, and I remember crawling
10:38
Speaker 2: back to the house and as I was crawling, I
10:40
Speaker 2: was sort of going in and it went from pain
10:44
Speaker 2: to sort of as if I was drunk. I was
10:46
Speaker 2: like floating and realizing it because the blood was leaving
10:48
Speaker 2: my body and I was about claus, you know. And
10:51
Speaker 2: I remember crawling through the door, blood everywhere and seeing
10:54
Speaker 2: my mom cleaning. She saw me and screamed, and the next.
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Speaker 1: Thing I remember, she put this.
11:00
Speaker 2: Wooly jumper or directly on the wound, and that woke
11:02
Speaker 2: me up again. I was, ah, you know, but I
11:05
Speaker 2: remember that moment of crawling and thinking I'm gonna die.
11:08
Speaker 2: I've got to get out of it. I have to
11:10
Speaker 2: change my life, so I've got to go. It's the
11:14
Speaker 2: will to want to do it. Why am I doing it?
11:16
Speaker 2: Because I can do it? Because there'll come a time
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Speaker 2: in my life I won't be able to do it,
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna do it. Do I like it? No?
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Speaker 2: Is it painful?
11:22
Speaker 1: Yes?
11:22
Speaker 2: As soon as I accept that, I'll go ahead and
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Speaker 2: do it. It's easy to talk talk about it and
11:28
Speaker 2: not do it. I'll do it tomorrow.
11:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can do it.
11:30
Speaker 2: We'll stop talking about it. Do it. That's the thing.
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Speaker 2: Just fucking do it. As soon as you accept yourself
11:37
Speaker 2: or I'll get into the water. It's gonna be cold,
11:39
Speaker 2: so what, I ain't gonna be it forever. I'm gonna
11:42
Speaker 2: be in and I'm gonna be out of it, but
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Speaker 2: I'll get someone out of it. Same as the fitness.
11:46
Speaker 2: The fitness is a passage in time.
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Speaker 1: It's hard.
11:48
Speaker 2: I'm breathing out my ass.
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Speaker 1: It's I can know this is tough, but.
11:51
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm doing it, and I'll do it
11:54
Speaker 2: till I can't do it. Listen, if your fitness means
11:59
Speaker 2: walking forward times into the kitchen back because you haven't
12:01
Speaker 2: done it before, that's something. So he mind goes. You
12:04
Speaker 2: know what, didn't do that before? Now I can do it.
12:12
Speaker 2: He was my number one role model. You know. I
12:14
Speaker 2: hope I haven't paint the wrong picture. My dad was
12:16
Speaker 2: just he was a man's man. He was by the book.
12:20
Speaker 2: He was the ringer still around our family. And I
12:22
Speaker 2: didn't realize until you get older, you know why I
12:24
Speaker 2: was a dad at my boxing match what but then?
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Speaker 2: But my mom was because he was at work. I
12:28
Speaker 2: couldn't understand that at the time. I thought he's just
12:30
Speaker 2: ain't interested.
12:32
Speaker 1: But he was.
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Speaker 2: And it wasn't until after he died, you know, I
12:35
Speaker 2: found out he actually knew a lot more about me
12:36
Speaker 2: because I didn't go home and talk about hom in
12:38
Speaker 2: the ass and I've done this, I've done that, done that,
12:40
Speaker 2: you know, but he knew from the papers. He knew
12:42
Speaker 2: where I was in the world, roughly did it and
12:44
Speaker 2: could put things and he had paper clippings and all this,
12:47
Speaker 2: and we never talked about it. It's kind of a
12:49
Speaker 2: regret that I didn't go and have a beer with
12:50
Speaker 2: him talk more about it. But he wasn't one of
12:52
Speaker 2: those people. You know, he's very proud of her, but
12:55
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to show it. He doesn't have to
12:56
Speaker 2: keep talking about it. The story of discovering that, yeah, yeah,
13:00
Speaker 2: it was after he passed and yeah, yeah, and uh,
13:04
Speaker 2: you know, it was a box of just newspaper cuttings
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Speaker 2: and just this that the other and little medals and
13:09
Speaker 2: whatever else like, you know, yeah, cause he was funny.
13:12
Speaker 2: But you know, I'd go home and not sitting in
13:14
Speaker 2: a pub with him and his mates, and his mate
13:16
Speaker 2: to ask all about it. He wearing your nail?
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Speaker 1: What's this?
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Speaker 2: My dad never even asked her question, does he even
13:21
Speaker 2: know him in the ses doesn't even know what I'd do,
13:23
Speaker 2: you know, cause he he just never asked. He he
13:25
Speaker 2: didn't talk about it, you know, And yeah, he he
13:28
Speaker 2: Looking back, I wish we had of but I understand
13:31
Speaker 2: his mentality and where he was, and I was just
13:34
Speaker 2: so proud of him for who he was and the
13:36
Speaker 2: way he brought us up. And there, you know. The
13:38
Speaker 2: weird thing about the whole that situation was my mum
13:41
Speaker 2: had cancer. She had lung cancer, and we knew mom
13:43
Speaker 2: was gonna die. And she was old, tougher than a
13:45
Speaker 2: coffin nail anyway, and it it almost became a joke.
13:48
Speaker 2: Me and Jels would come home and I'd I'd walk
13:50
Speaker 2: in the house, she'd be sat in.
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Speaker 1: But you're still alive, yeah, and she was, ah, you know,
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Speaker 1: and Dad.
13:55
Speaker 2: Had just chuckle. I mean that was a big old
13:57
Speaker 2: boy like and I could see he was getting old,
13:59
Speaker 2: he'd lost his leg. He took his leg off in
14:00
Speaker 2: the lights started part of his life and that was
14:02
Speaker 2: through smoking, you know. And when I got the call
14:06
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, I thought, yeah, Mom's dead.
14:09
Speaker 2: I was expecting it. And then when I had Dad's dead, I.
14:12
Speaker 1: Was like, say that again, what?
14:15
Speaker 2: And that that was that kicked me. You know, I
14:19
Speaker 2: wasn't I wasn't ready for that. And then three weeks later,
14:21
Speaker 2: four weeks later, my mom died one after another.
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Speaker 1: But you know, that was tough.
14:30
Speaker 2: We all know, no one's going out of this life alive.
14:32
Speaker 2: We're all going to die in some stays. But when
14:34
Speaker 2: it really happens, the reality kicks and.
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Speaker 1: That's that's it' that's odd.
14:38
Speaker 2: I think that's the artist closest to PTSD. If I've
14:41
Speaker 2: ever had anything, it was that it's happened. You can't
14:45
Speaker 2: change it. You've just got to accept it, and you've
14:47
Speaker 2: got to look back on that's it and just enjoy
14:51
Speaker 2: what was good and you know, and some of what
14:52
Speaker 2: was bad and learn from what was bad, you know.
14:54
Speaker 2: And my dad had some terrible arguments towards the end.
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Speaker 2: But like I've always said, I'd walk fifty miles off,
15:00
Speaker 2: or brought glass to have one more argument with him.
15:02
Speaker 2: I can't, it's gone.
15:07
Speaker 1: Let it go.
15:11
Speaker 2: It's hard, and what I you know, you'll always have
15:14
Speaker 2: your moments. A certain song will come on and go
15:16
Speaker 2: I remember Dad, or a certain saying, so you long
15:19
Speaker 2: have flashbacks, but I don't have to relive it every day,
15:22
Speaker 2: and they wouldn't want you to do that. You've just
15:23
Speaker 2: got to let it go. It's happened. You've got to
15:26
Speaker 2: move forward. You've got to take care of yourself. You've
15:29
Speaker 2: got to take care of what's important to you now
15:31
Speaker 2: and move forward, because this is a passage in time.
15:33
Speaker 2: And I know it's an old cliche.
15:35
Speaker 1: Life's not a ursal.
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Speaker 2: It isn't It is not. I think we're at I'm
15:40
Speaker 2: particularly at the stage now every other day about another
15:44
Speaker 2: exoder that's either committed suicide or died, and you.
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Speaker 1: Think you just don't know what's around the corner.
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Speaker 2: So you've got to enjoy it and not live your
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Speaker 2: life like it's the last day on earth. But enjoy it.
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Speaker 2: It's easy to be miserable. You have a choice. You
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Speaker 2: can be upset and miserable, or you can be happy
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Speaker 2: and push forward. It's a choice and you have it.
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Speaker 2: Choose to go forward, and that you know, just because
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Speaker 2: we haven't got anyoney to go for a drink, or
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Speaker 2: just because you're not feeling very well, but he's still
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Speaker 2: here and you've still got something to enjoy and go forward.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, just keep pushing forward. That's again, it's easy
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Speaker 2: to fordance has a sadness, a bitter party. It's not gonna help.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't help you, It doesn't help boot problem around you.
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Speaker 2: You can be said, of course, and I'm not saying
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Speaker 2: get up and go, Hey, dad's dead, let's go. I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying that. I'm saying you've got to drive forward.
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Speaker 2: You've got to get up. You've got to motivate yourself
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Speaker 2: a little bit slower than normal to get back to something.
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Speaker 2: But move forward, move get on with it. It's happened. You
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Speaker 2: ain't gonna change it. The past is never done it.
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Speaker 2: You learn from the past. What you can do is
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Speaker 2: shape your future from what's happened. You know, Dad in
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Speaker 2: a great life. I want a greater life. There's a
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Speaker 2: way around everything, and there's always an option in everything
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Speaker 2: you're going through, every dark moment you're in when you
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Speaker 2: think everything to gain.
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Speaker 1: It's off.
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Speaker 2: There's a way out. There is a way out, there's
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Speaker 2: an option. It's just accept this. It ain't gonna be easy.
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Speaker 2: It's never gonna be easy. As soon as you accept that,
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Speaker 2: you'll go for it and you'll get out of it.
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